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2009 ALL-MVAL Football team
By Tony Gonsalez
Tuesday, December 1st, 2009 at 4:15 pm in East Bay Football, Stats.
In case you missed it, here is the 2009 ALL-MVAL Football team.
Jim Randle Offensive Player of the year
Jonathan Willis, James Logan
Ron Johnson Defensive Player of the Year
Toni Pole, James Logan
First Team Offense
C: Casey Landavazo (James Logan) Sr.
G: Bryan Jones (Newark Memorial) Sr., Reyes Garcia (James Logan) Sr.
T: Daniel Topps (Irvington) Jr., Julian Kamlley (James Logan) Sr.
TE: Toni Pole (James Logan) Sr.
QB: David Rossi (Washington) Sr., Jonathan Willis (James Logan) Sr.
RB: Paco Prodigue (Kennedy-Fremont) Sr., Victor Johnson (James Logan) Sr.
WR: Joe Castro (James Logan) Sr., Deandre Carter (Washington) Jr.
First Team Defense
DL: Mister Simmons (James Logan) Sr., Toni Pole (James Logan) Sr., Cedric Lousi (Washington) Sr.
OLB: Albert Bell (James Logan) Jr., Keoni Marquez (American) Sr.
ILB: Matthew Haney (James Logan) Jr., Jordan Cooper (American) Jr.
DB: Nick Pohndorf (Newark Memorial) Jr., Matt Kaufman (Irvington) Jr., Joe Castro (James Logan) Sr., Deandre Carter (Washington) Jr.
KR: Joe Castro (James Logan) Sr.
PK: Anthony Benavente (Newark Memorial) Sr.
P: Christian Gonzalez (Mission San Jose) Sr.
Second Team Offense
C: Mike McKinney (Kennedy-Fremont) Sr.
G: Mike Loya (Kennedy-Fremont) Sr., Daniel Luty (American) Jr.
T: Steven Kay (American) Jr., Joseph Nahale (Kennedy-Fremont) Jr.
TE: Cedric Lousi (Washington) Sr.
RB: Tanner King (Washington) Sr., Shawn Wong (American) Jr.
WR: Nirmal Singh (Kennedy-Fremont) Sr., Adil Mojaddedi (American) Sr.
Second Team Defense
DL: Justice Afoa (Newark Memorial) Jr., Bryan Jones (Newark Memorial) Sr., Joseph Nahale (Kennedy-Fremont) Jr.
OLB: Tanner King (Washington) Sr., Ikem Okwudiafor (Mission San Jose) Sr.
ILB: Nick Hall (Newark Memorial) Jr., Brendan Lopez (Washington) Jr.
DB: Antoine Preble (Newark Memorial) Sr., Eric Harmon (Irvington) Sr., Roman Lee (Irvington) Jr., Trevor Damewood (Kennedy-Fremont) Sr.
KR: Deandre Carter (Washington) Jr.
PK: Gustavo Ulloa (James Logan) Jr.
P: Anthony Benavente (Newark Memorial) Sr.
Honorable Mention
C: Camron Noorzad (Washington), Kevin Hou (Mission San Jose); G: Jack McCoy (Washington); T: Haniteli Lousi (Washington), Victor Garcia (James Logan); TE: Kendall Andrews (Newark Memorial); RB: Anthony Jackson (Newark Memorial), Roderick Johnson (American); DL: Victor Garcia (James Logan), Khallad Hasan (Washington), George McCloud (American), Stephen Kay (American). OLB: Andrew Alvarez (Newark Memorial), Kendall Andrews (Newark Memorial), Nick Marino (Irvington), Charles Stewart (Irvington), Jeff Lucero (Kennedy-Fremont). ILB: David Kim (Mission San Jose). KR: Matt Kaufman (Irvington), Roger Johnson (American). PK: Rudy Artero (Kennedy-Fremont), Josh Wilson (Washington). P: Tom Stevenson (Kennedy).
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December 1st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
gotta love being put down as a junior when i’m a senior.
December 1st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Correction has been made. Went by what was on your roster. Has you listed as a Jr.
December 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 am
Washingtons going to be good next year they got stud WR Deandre Carter coming back.. see how good their qb is too next year, and cedric lousi’s brother
Logan’s got OLB Bell coming back and ILB Haney as well. D is a quality of Logan
Logan’s kicker coming back too.. so improved fg game maybe
I gotta believe this is a good sign for the MVAL all the all leaguers they got but it’s still a two man race with Logan and Washington it now seems.
I think Newark may even be worse than 3rd place next year and Irvington has the most signs of improvement. American who knows a wild card, but Kennedy is going to be young next year. MSJ will they beat a league rival next year? possibly JFK or American or Newark in a few years going on history..
December 2nd, 2009 at 5:10 am
Mr. Harmon,
Congratulations for making All-MVAL. You are lucky the coach knew you weren’t a freshman. From what has been reported, the Irvington coach did a dis-service to the Irvington players this year. Irvington once had a good program, but this year it went in the dump. Irvington should hire a coach that knows football. Irvington’s coach is an idiot.
December 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I wouldn’t count on Mission beating another MVAL team till probably 2012, when our Frosh team (beat Irvington 60-0 this year, from what I heard) becomes seniors.
December 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Irvington is the new Mission San Jose.
December 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Thanks Mr. Gonsalez for the correction, I should also tell you that all Irvington Juniors on this list are actually Seniors, except for Nick Marino who is a Junior. Seaside, I’m just going to say this. We could have been a lot better, but shit happens when you have 2 new coaches in 3 years. There was just a whole new attitude to the team that changed everything, and we just didn’t adapt well…at all. I think the next years juniors and seniors will be more successful, we just need numbers.
December 2nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Also, thank you Seaside for the congratulations. Didn’t want to come off like I was just disagreeing with you.
December 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Mr. Harmon that is a honest and great answer and no one is blaming you for that. That is a good sign for the program if they can improve and the past few seasons you stuck with it and that shows the character of you as a football player. Good luck young man wherever you go we need more players like you posting with great attitudes and postive feedback.
December 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Thanks to GIL LEMON North Coast Section commissioner Kendall Andrews the transfer Salesian High School will be allowed to play this year for Newark Memorial. Good job GIL LEMON for not enforcing the rules like you did with that kid who transferred to Washington High from Moreau last year. Same rule different result. Hey GIL LEMON maybe you need to explain the double standard? Attention all MVAL Coaches…don’t play Newark if this is allowed to stand. GIL LEMON needs to explain this decision to all of you and Ashmore and the boys need to stop their unethical and illegal stunts. Were on to you Ashmore even if GIL LEMON is in your hip pocket.
December 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Ash, I’m sure NCS reviews all their transfers but until basketball posts come, can we discuss MVAL football for now? I would love to hear what kinds of arguments you have for the MVAL bball teams and what the expectations and previews for all the area league bball teams will be.
again, for all the players great season and congrats on making your ALL League
December 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Ash, sounds like you are still hating on N.M., please step your game up, if you need help give me your e-mail and we can take it from there. Its not as hard as you think. N.M can be beat if the MVAL coaches do their job and coach and quit letting young student-athletes get in their head.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
All the players that were from Irvington that made first or second team were posted as Juniors,but all of them were seniors
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Matt haney played outside backer the whole year.. The Logan coaches put him there so he could get first team… Albert bell has led Logan in tackles the last two years… He’s a great player and a good guy… I’ll have to come back to watch him…
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 am
Ash, I think you need to realize that the transfer rules have changed in the last two years as well. It is not a double standard. Mr. Lemmon is following the rules handed to him. In 2008, that player could not have played, but now with the rule change he can. Do your research before you start spouting off about double standards.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
M, if you in fact have done your research you would know GIL LEMON is not abiding by the transfer rules in a consistent way and a double standard does exist in to the favor of Newark Memorial. Explain the difference between the kid from Moreau who played for their varsity squad in 2007 (all league caliber player) and transferred to Washington High last year and wasn’t allow to play varsity due a ruling by GIL LEMON and Kendall Andrews who transferred from Salesian and played on their varsity squad is allowed to play for Newark Memorial thanks to ruling by GIL LEMON? The rule is when you transfer to another school and you have played on a varsity squad you can not play varsity for a year. I say double standard. No doubt ASHMORE and his merry band of recruiters pulled a lot of strings to get this to happen. ASHMORE will never play by the rules…it’s all about his ego. He will continue the unethical/illegal tactics until we call him out. Lets call him out!
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
As i stated before, this is football season and if we are going to call him out lets make sure we call out some of the HAAL coaches who are doing the same kids are coming to these schools from all over and the AD’s just look the other way and by the way it is not hard to figure out where this is going on, NOW back to football any thoughts?
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Bhouse, I agree it goes on all over especially with the private schools, no need to call anybody out we just have to step our game up and do a better job of coaching these young student-athletes so they won’t get enticed to go out of district to another school to play ball. In addition some school districts have open enrollment so it is hard to say if a student-athlete has been influenced to attend a certain High school.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 pm
American’s J.V team went 9 – 1 and had a share for the league crown this season. We’ll see what they do next year.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Although Matt Haney played outside linebacker I believe he was also the starting inside linebacker due to lack of other linebackers. However, the Logan d-line saved the team 2 times over.
December 4th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Get off of kendall andrews dick! I bet you people who are hating on kendall don’t even have a kid who is good at any sport. The mval is so small time, no real college talent in any sport, especially football or basketball. Kendall left a talented league to come to a garbage place for sports. Trust me, its a come down for him. He wasn’t all league in mval football with 13.0 dsacks? Lol hating coaches in a wimpy league
December 4th, 2009 at 8:47 am
yawn… go to school kendall.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Joe, how about you do your homework before you post bullcrap about the MVAL.
MVAL football has a number of players with DI offers or playing DI football:
Toni Pole (Logan) offers from Utah and possibly a couple of Pac-10 schools
Cedric Lousi (Wash) offer from BYU
DJ Gomes (Logan) starting corner Nebraska
Rashad Evans (Logan) Fresno St. starting punt returner/slot receiver
Robert Turbin (Irvington) Utah St. – starting RB
Blake Lebeau (Logan) – Backup Center Montana (DI AA)
That ain’t half bad for the last 3 years, and I’ve probably left some off the list
December 4th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Ash Hater you have absolutely no idea of what you’re talking about. You sound just as ignorant as you are petty. What you need to do is go back and read your CIFNCS Handbook, because obviously you have no clue what the rules and bilaws are. I as a mother going through this process(which I wouldn’t wish on any parent)know the rules up,down, backwards, and forwards.You can’t be so ignorant to believe that every athlete has the same personal circumstances when they change schools.Now I don’t know the details of the Moreau kids xfer to Washington and I bet u don’t know either. I know u don’t know our family details and really it’s none of YOUR business. Believe me everyone says Kendall is a “high profile player”so before you go calling out Gil Lemmon know that our application was reviewed with a fine tooth comb, not only by the commissioner but a 3 panel appeals board. His application was intially denied on a small technicality which was already in the process of being denied and subsequently has been. I’m calling you out Ash Hater! Only thing Ashmore is guilty of is winning,there were no band of recruiters that came to me in the middle of the night. STOP tryings to live your unfulfilled bb dreams thru these kids. Only people who have a problem with my sonplaying bb in the MVAL are adults like you, the kids welcome the competition. Now if you want to respond back to me,use your given name and if you are who I think you are I’ll really put your ass on blast! .Kendall has his state title and hit the game winning shot with .2 secs to help win it he has nothing to prove.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
maybe he could of went to Irvington or Mission San Jose hahahahahahahah
December 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Mrs. K…Yes I do know what I’m talking about.and by you saying I’m “ignorant & petty.”just confirms that you’re “ignorant & petty.” This is not about your son it’s about playing fair!.If GIL LEMON was consistent and followed the CIFNCS handbook your son would not be playing varsity basketball this year.. I know a mother who has already gone through this process in a case an almost identical to yours. GIL LEMON ruled that boy (a high profile player) had to sit out a season of varsity basketball because the rule states that when you transfer to another school and you have played on a varsity squad you can not play varsity for a year . This kid lives for basketball and basketball could still open doors for him but GIL LEMON ruled he couldn’t play and he sat out his junior season case closed! How do you think that kid mother felt? Can you sympathise? Was this right? GIL LEMON needs to explain the difference between your sons case, the kid from Moreau case and the other kid who transferred to Castro Valley and has too been denied. Something doesn’t add up. ONE MORE THING…Yes I do not approve of ASHMORE tactics but I’m not a Ash Hater. ASHMORE wins by recruiting tipping the scales in Newarks Memorials favor by plucking up the all the out of district talent he could recruit.I hear he’s lined up 4 more out of district 8th graders for next seasson. This just isn’t fair and needs to stop.
Joe my name is not Dick and by the way you’re a real class act!
December 5th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
It’s my understanding after talking with Newark AD Rich Swift that Andrews’ family was in the process of moving to Newark at the start of the year and now lives there. Which would make all of this pointless.
In the Know- Lousi does not have an offer from BYU. He actually doesn’t have any offers yet. San Jose State was close to offering him, but then Tomey retired.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
its not the transfers that is the main problem its the incoming frosh who are coming from all over and getting into these Mval schools and haal schools as well as others, kids should not be able to go to schools based on athletics and YES these coaches are influencing these kids in one way or another (thats called recruiting) its going on all over and needs to stop
December 5th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Kyle
The the kid from Moreau who transferred to Washington has lived within Washington boundaries for many years …why was he denied his junior year of eligibility? GIL LEMON or RICH SWIFT need explain the difference between these cases and the kid who was denied to playing for Castro Valley as well and e-mail all the MVAL ADs. with an explanation. Something doesn’t add up.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Actually J.P has played in every game except the first two for the huskies and he never played varsity football for Moreau catholic.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
That’s the difference. Because he lived in the Washington attendance area and elected to go to Moreau as a 9th grader and played varsity basketball at Moreau, he could not transfer to Washington and play immediately unless his family was able to claim hardship. Which apparently they could not.
Because Andrews moved, the cases are completely different.
December 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Kyle
They appealed it twice. They are not wealthy (they could have) and I do believe they tried to claim hardship. GIL LEMON denied them twice. Are you saying Andrews could of played for Washington before he moved? Why didn’t he just go and play for Washington then?
December 5th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Without knowing the specifics of the family situation (which shouldn’t be discussed here anyways), it’s pretty tough to claim hardship.
From the NCS Bylaws:
1) Financial hardship. — It doesn’t matter if the family is “wealthy or not.” They made the decision to go to Moreau originally, so an unless unforeseen circumstances which dramatically changed the family’s financial situation occurred you can’t use this. The reason “We can’t justify paying xxx amount of dollars a year to attend private school anymore” isn’t a valid reason.
2) Medical hardship. — Doesn’t seem like this comes into play here.
3) Family Need: The burden of proof is on the student. A hardship exemption may be granted when it can be verified that a family responsibility beyond the control of the student or the student’s parents (guardians) required the student to be in violation of a CIF or NCS eligibility rule.
4) Absolute Compelling Need: The burden of proof is on the student. A hardship exemption may be granted when a situation existed such that the student was unable to meet the requirements of the eligibility bylaw in question. Such situations, in order to waive the eligibility requirement, must be tangible, demonstrable, and/or substantiated by a person or agency not personally involved with the student.
The notion that NCS lets Newark play by a different set of rules than Washington is completely off base. It seems like rumors are getting in the way of facts here…
December 5th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
So in both cases each boy elected to go to a private school instead of Washington.
In both cases each boy left their private and returned to public schools one to Washington and one to Newark Memorial. Both lived in the Washington High School district at the time.
Kyle
In both cases each had played Varsity Basketball at their private schools.
The transfer from Moreau is denied eligibility to play varsity and the transfer from Salesian is granted eligibility after moving out of the Washington boundaries into Newark. So far the only difference is that one kid elected to go to a different public school and then moved into that school boundaries..In both cases hardship could have been claimed and I believe it was in the case of the Moreau transfer.
Both cases are very similar no? Please explain why one is denied and one is not?
December 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Hey Joe, did you catch the Nebraska v Texas game tonite? DJ Ghomes… James Logan grad. Pretty good collge talent from the mval wouldn’t you agree?…
December 6th, 2009 at 5:25 am
GIL LEMON is a jerk. He makes up the rules as he goes.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:05 am
I am not Kyle but I think you just answered your own question. The difference in the NCS’s eyes is the kid MOVED to Newark while the other kid did not move.
December 6th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Dnrapp
So the kid from Moreau stays in the school district that he lives in and is denied eligibility and the kid from Salesian MOVES out of the school district he lives in and is granted eligibility? That is weird… if the Kid from Moreau had wanted to play for Newark and MOVED to Newark he could have play varsity for Newark but could not play in the school district he lives in? Maybe GIL LEMON need to explain. Ground control to GIL LEMON do you read me?
December 7th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Kyle
THANKYOU SO MUCH for explaining Bilaw 208. I’m sure there will still be THOSE that just don’t get it. Proving such hardship requires significant documentation regarding the unforseeable circumstance causing it. To put ALL RUMORS to rest the Andrews family did file for a financial hardship waiver. ..which Gil Lemmon and a 3 person appeals panel agreed was merit. Now are application was denied based on our family living in the Washington school boundaries. It’s true if we had stayed in the same residence Kendall could have played for the Huskies, but we were all ready in the process of moving to Newark for financial reasons. Our appeal was based on that fact. I didn’t want my son going to two different high schools knowing we were moving. If we were a family that was solely motivated athletically Kendall could have played football at Washington (MVAL League champs)and than BB at Newark once we moved…I chose not to do that. So Ash Hater just to let you know I’m graduate of Washington HS and so is my brother who played varsity bb for Boggs. I have nothing against WHS I had 4 great yrs there. I am just very upset on how they chose to handle this when finding out Kendall wouldn’t be going there..and to the other AD in Fremont who chose to send an email to every MVAL AD except Newarks asking teams to forfeit games to Newark if Kendall’s xfer was approved. And for your info Ash Hater Gil Lemmon taught at WHS for 17yrs if he had any bias it would be for them
December 7th, 2009 at 7:27 am
kyle,
Just curious, is it true that if you attend a private school and then need to transfer to the public school for financial reasons, the private school still has to “waive” you? Ex., if you say you can no longer afford the tuition, they can offer assistance and that would make you ineligible? I am in no way referring to Andrews, just curious cause you hear so many things.
December 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Ash- The main difference is the move. Don’t know what else to say at this point.
BBFAN- I’m not aware of any waiver rule. I doubt one exists, though.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Mrs. K … Your case aside this is a FAIRNESS ISSUE. I do get it Mrs. K your (5 or 6?) Recruiters win again..,ASHMORE lands another ringer! As Bhouse said in post #28: “kids should not be able to go to schools based on athletics and YES these coaches are influencing these kids in one way or another (that’s called recruiting) its going on all over and needs to stop”.
Let’s just say some kid who has lived in the Newark Memorial School District all of his life and is a decent baller tries out for varsity at Newark Memorial. Let’s say he’s good enough to be a player for most of the MVAL squads . That kid is either going to get cut or be riding the pine because of all the recruited talent that ASHMORE plucked up from Horner, Centerville, Walters, Hopkins and the ends of the earth are going to play instead. Are you OK with that? If I lived in Newark and paid taxes in Newark and (I guess you do now) I’d be livid. ASHMORE? GIL LEMON and all the those hiding in their bunkers need to explain their sides. If Newark Memorial was a private school this would be fine but it’s not. In closing Mrs.K I do detect just a little huskie hate…are you sure you don’t have anything against WHS?
Kyle could you put GIL LEMON on the phone…maybe he is making the rules on the fly.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Just wanna give a shot out to the husky football team for having an amazing year. Kudos to the staff players and supporters out there for playing a major role in this years success. Far exceeding anyones expectations this years team will go sown as one of the best ever. Led by sr qb David Ross and Cedric Lousi. You guys truly were a privilage to watch every week. To all those Ebay prep football teams out there the huskies are back on the map and am looking foward to seeing your program continue to rise. Great season boys and remeber huskies don’t train to maintain but to get better than yesterday, better than the competition!
Let’s get em D.C.
December 8th, 2009 at 10:09 am
ASH HATER
If I’m 5 or 6 you must be an embryo! The rules are fair for EVERYONE. Gil Lemmon doesn’t make the rules a governing board for the CIFNCS does. (HELLO!) Winning and successful programs attract real talent just like successful academic programs attract the best students. You talk about recruiting..if I told you my husband was approached by an assistant coach from WHS and was told “he could do whatever he wanted ” on the hoop floor if he came there. Would YOU call that recruiting? And how he was told not to come to any WHS open gyms if he was going to go to Newark. This is before a decision was made to leave Salesian. Was that fair or ok when their open gyms are open to other players that go to schools in different districts. You talk about Lennon hiding but YOU are the only one hiding behind your Ash moniker. ..you know who I am.
December 8th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
@Kendall S, Mom..
You really don’t have to explain $h!t to anyone on this blog. Whatever your reasons are for changing your son’s school is YOUR business. Let them hate all they want. If you did the paperwork, and your kid was able to transfer, and someone else’s kid didn’t, that is not your issue. You don’t make the rules, but you obviously followed them when you submitted your paperwork. And to you angry, jealous bloggers if transfers really affect you personally because your kids’ spot is gone or your kid didn’t get an approval, contact someone by phone. Attacking someone’s kid or the school they’re going to doesn’t need to be discussed on a blog. Go directly to the person you have the problem with. If I were Kendall,S mom, I’d tell you to kiss my @$$!
December 8th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Please Mrs. K. you old mŭnnik you. Whats you got against WHS?
Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell and some evolve into compassionate humans who know right from wrong and play FAIR and some (last name begins with an A and ends with an e) do not.
FYI… in my last post I was referring to the 5 or 6 (RECRUITERS) Mr. fairness Coach ASHMORE has working the Junior High circuit. How many (MVAL 8th graders) has he got to come over to Newark Memorial next year? I hear the Newarks Memorial merry band of recruiters have plucked up at least 4 more (high profile) 8th graders out of their designated school districts to keep the scale tipped…in other words advantage ASHMORE. You must be a happy camper? You’re OK with that right? Let’s continue to feed the greed and you can rest assured the GIL LEMON the decider will be sitting on his thumbs down in the bunker and so it goes. Heads up when the BBall Blogs are up and going I’m going to turn it up to 11. Call me only if you want to if you want to have a civil discussion.
December 8th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Ash More….,
If you truly have an issue that needs to be seriously looked at, your best bet would be to contact Gil Lemmon directly. You don’t need Kyle to get him on the phone. His e-mail address and phone extension are listed on the NCS web site. Knowing Gil, he’ll likely take the time to listen to what you have to say. It’s a much more reasonable approach to take.
December 8th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Not sure about all the transfer rules but I can assure you that besides newark there are two other schools from another league, one which has 7 or 8 players on there roster who did not attend the local Jr highs came directly there for athletics, that is not right nor fair the administration and AD’s need to put a stop to this, these are public schools with boundaries not private schools where that is perfectly legal and people have no problems with that, and they did not just show up someone talked to them before they enrolled(recruiting)
December 9th, 2009 at 1:58 am
spelled Kevin Hou’s name wrong from mission high school honorable mention Center. name should be spelled Kevin Huo. thanks
December 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I couldn’t take it anymore and took Kyle’s advice. I actually read the bylaws regarding all this transfer stuff. It seems pretty clear that all the rules were followed in this case. Not only do you have to prove the financial hardship, you have to prove that it was unforseeable. If I am understanding the rules correctly, in this case, you are initially considered ineligible and must prove otherwise. Also from reading the rules, it seems that the Moreau case where the kid never physically moved from his district is considered a different case. I am not saying it’s fair, but the rules are there and the Andrew’s family seems to have followed the guidelines and actually had to go through alot to be able to have their son continue to play.
December 9th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Irvington varsity football players announced today that their Head Football Coach, Casey Kester has been fired.
December 9th, 2009 at 9:33 am
ASH HATER
What’s your extension at WHS? Since you’re still hiding behind your moniker..could it be your the WHS coach who attempted to recruit my son? Cuz you definitely didn’t address it in my last post to you. If your issue is now about recruiting I concur. But in my case keep my son’s name out of YOUR mouth! You don’t KNOW me or my family details in regards to our xfer. So when your “turning it up on the bb blogs” remember you’re talking about a 16YR OLD CHILD as a grown adult! My son shouldn’t have to suffer the backlash for a decision beyond his control..just because you’re whining about not getting that knock out punch to add to Jack & Mike to possible dethrone Newark. I hope EVERYONE reading this post see’s this guy for what he is a complete “JOKE “!
And thanks I’m A Mom Too!
December 9th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
haha I’m not the type to talk smack but dayum rogue how did Kendal even get honorable mension?!?lol now Kennedy has been small for a while an will be small for a while I mean we are the ONLY d3 school in mval aha just hope Kennedy doesn’t put me at fullback next haha….goNe…
December 9th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
what the hell did you just say? lol…
December 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
@Prepfan
I just saw a bulletin posted on Myspace stating this, and this is the 1st I’ve heard of it. Horrible decision. Give him at least two years. He put up the same record that Lutz gave us in his 1st year. That’s some bullshit.
December 9th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Mrs. K. and all the MOMs out there… As I said in way back in post #26 this is not about your son… to quote myself “This is not about your son it’s about playing fair!” This is not about the knock out punch. What do have against WSH? I would appreciate your comments “IM A MOM TOO.” Again it’s a FAIRNESS ISSUE. I wish your son and all high school athletes the best. I’m not a MOTHER but I am feeling bad for the kid from Moreau who got the shaft from Mr. Compassion himself GIL LEMON. Hey MOMs do you to feel for the kid from Moreau and his MOM? This kid LOST a year of eligibility thank to the decider GIL LEMON. How would you feel if this happened to you MRS. K.? And as a added bonus ASHMORE adds another ringer to his stacked roster via recruitment.
Jimmy D… If GIL LEMON wants to talk tell him to dial me up from the bunker and tell him to get off his thumbs and call…I think he knows who I am. It’s too bad that the other young men who play MVAL hoops and live and their own school districts are been at a distinct disadvantage because every year ASHMORE and his merry recruiters (5 maybe 6 of them) have been recruiting the talent away from from Horner, Centerville, Walters, Hopkins that would have gone to American, Kennedy, Washington etc on to Newark Memorials roster. That’s just a fact and Bhouse post #28 is right… it has got to stop.
December 9th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Don’t know much about Newark and transfers, but I have heard they get alot of players from outside the District, also heard there is an Haal school with many kids playing for them from outside the District not too sure how all these schools get away with this but it seems like they are operating like a private school. It will eventually catch up to them it always does.
December 10th, 2009 at 7:13 am
December 10th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
@ Ashmore. I just re-read your post #26. Although you said it’s not about her kid, you keep mentioning him. Then you tell Jimmy D to tell Gil Lemon if he wants to talk he should call you up. Call you up for what? Is it your kid? If not, then why are you fighting someone elses battle ON A BLOG??!! I don’t know Kendall’s mom, but my post was to encourage her to tell you to STFU!! I can’t honestly say that I feel for the Moreau kid’s mom, but I would tell her to fight for her son. I for damn sure wouldn’t need you on a highschool blog bringing up someone elses situation to point out discrepancies between the rules. This isn’t the place. Not only that, I knew when my son was in the 7th grade, exactly what highschool he’d go to, and I made sure that happened. And lastly Mr Ash, do you really think those in charge are reading this blog?? NO! I log on her to read about the accomplishments of all the schools and all the kids. I like to see how my son and his school compare to the other schools. There’s a lot that I’ve learned from many of the bloggers, NOT YOU OF COURSE, that helped me understand more about bowls, championships, playoffs, all-league, etc. Then there are about FIVE bloggers who get on my damn nerves. YOU OF COURSE have become one.
December 10th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
IM A MOM TOO. ..Please lets keep the discussion civil. Stop it with the STFU and kiss my @$$ stuff or I’m going to have to put YOU on my most uncivil bloggers of all time list. No doubt this is ALL getting back to ASHMORE and his merry band of( 5 or maybe 6) recruiters. Some of the few people who read these blogs talk and it gets back to ASHMORE and GIL LEMON (post #36) the decider. These men are cheater/unethical or enablers of those who cheat/or are unethical. Cheat works for me. ASHMORE and GIL LEMON not going to change so we need to expose them for what they are and get them out of their comfort zone. Thank you LFaulk for post #57…Read it and weep ASHMORE apologist and tell GIL LEMON to come out of the bunker and call me.
December 11th, 2009 at 10:10 am
The main reason I get on here is to also learn and to see how other teams are doing, etc. I do think others have the right to their opinions, as do I. It would and has bothered me when someone put my kid’s name out there, but just because someone says something, doesn’t make it true. I can see where someone is upset about all the kids not going to schools in their districts, but sometimes, you just want to give your kid the best education he can possibly get and that is your right. Maybe Ash hater used the blog to get more people out there aware of what goes on and unfortunately he used andrews as an example
. Curious, what school in HAAL “recruits”?
December 11th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
BBFAN2
GIL LEMON has not explained the difference between the transfer from Moreau being denied vs the transfer from Salesian being eligible. Because one kid MOVED is not going to fly because the other kid already lived in the Washington school district so would you MOVE somewhere else in the Washington High school district and all would be cool? .Newark has done a lot of questionable things to tip the scales in their favor. This must stop. Kyle B needs to dig… this could turn out to be a mini Watergate in the making.
December 12th, 2009 at 7:36 am
TO Ashmore Should Be Shame or should I call you WHS Asst. Coach Hani Ghaith? You should be ashamed of yourself sir! I’ve heard thru the grapevine you even taunted the Andrews family telling them their xfer application was denied before they even turned it in because Gil Lemmon was a Washington alumni. When that didn’t go ur way you want to bring up a Moreau xfer that happened A YEAR AGO. Now don’t get me wrong EVERYONE felt for that kid and his parents. If u know the rules like YOU say an explanation isn’t needed. Athletes CAN’T xfer schools whether public or private without moving out of their school district or proving an UNFORSEEABLE hardship. How come everyone else gets that but YOU! The Andrews xfer has flown and landed LET IT GO! You talk about Ashmore’s merry band of 5-6 recruiters but you never address Kendall,S Mom blog to you about YOU recruiting her son. Is your non comment saying it didn’t happen or you calling her a liar? And a Watergate issue LOL stop watching so much tv. Hani Hani stop being so mad besides you still have your lil 8th grader to save the day for WHS.
December 13th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Prepfan, post #58 – Please contact me as soon as you can so you can elaborate on the accusations you are making against me. Since this is now a personal issue where you are making statements the directly impact my reputation, please step forward and contact me directly.
Casey Kester
December 13th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Hani Ghaith WHO HE?
Sorry…That is not the number answer! I’ve heard thru the grapevine as you know that not only does Newark recruit (BIG TIME) with their 5 or 6 merry band of reuiters…their AD (SWIFT?) has not followed thru on grade issues. Help me out here… is anyone aware of one Newark Memorial BBaal starter ever being shut down for grades? Seem to happen at the other MVAL schools every season. Has it happened even once since ASHMORE been there?
So what if GIL LEMON was a Washington alum. Everyone in the know knows the ASHMORE & SWIFT team has it’s ways working their magic to their advantage and they just worked GIL LEMON until he allowed the transfer. GIL LEMON contradicted himself on the transfer rule. I know that this happened a YEAR AGO but its still doesn’t make it right I will get over it when GIL LEMON explains the difference in the two cases. PLEASE… MRS. K is not a liar although she could have just stayed in the Washington school district played for Washington avoiding all this hassle. I’m only guessing (like you with who I am) that she has issues with WSH and didn’t want to play their with a little or a lot of help from ASHMORE and his recruiters So please explain GET OVER IT… what don’t you all get about the Moreau kid already LIVING in the Washington High School district as well as being a UN FOR SEEABLE hardship case as well. Did he need to MOVE next door and it would be approved by GIL LEMON? Explain why GIL LEMON such a stickler last year and not this year. Double standard perhaps?
Newark worked to get the player they needed to extend their BOGUS MVAL wining streak and they get away with this every year. When it goes Newarks way it’s all good as unethical as it is. Why are the other MVAL teams are expected to get over it, bend over a take in the rear. The FAIRNESS issue is about to depart and we will be turning it up to 11 if we don’t get some explanations Call me only if we can have a civil discussion …if you do know who I am.
December 13th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
First of all, Lemon did not go to Washington. He went to Kennedy.
Second, this discussion is getting pretty tired. The rules were followed per the NCS bylaws, that’s all there is to it. The move is the difference.
Ash if you have solid proof Newark recruits you can e-mail me at kbonagura@bayareanewsgroup.com, but if there is nothing concrete then I think it time to move past this issue and focus on the season.
December 13th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Thank You K.B., there are accusations about coaches all over NorCal who recruit i.e. DLS,St.Mary’s(Stockton),Grant without no evidence it just hurts that coaches and his staff reputation. Please stop these are kids we that we are talking about, lets encourage them to get their education and futher it by going to college.Ash,remember every team can be beat it comes down to good coaching let’s do it.
December 13th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
When coach ASHMORE goes to a 8th CYO teams practice (Corpus Chisti) and tells a kid (A very good player) who should to be going to Washington next next year “You need to go to Newark.” is that evidence enough? This needs to stop. I just want to even the scales. This is A FAIRNESS ISSUE! I invite you to check out this lead yourselves.
December 13th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Like I said before, feel free to e-mail me if you have concrete evidence.
December 13th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I will and I do.
December 13th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Ok I really dislike the fact that people are making allocations towards irvingtons program and have no background of what was presented to us as a staff at the school. Our head varsity coach was put in place in april. For any coach that is hard to set up a program. As far as the freshman team goes we were set back with out head freshman coach being politiclied fired by our adminstration. I myself a rookie offensive cord. I was coming into a program were I myself graduated from irvington and countinued on and played college play was put into a situation were had 16 players on the field. We had lost 6 freshman because are numbers were not strong at the jv level our jv team had 13 players.for any progeam a succesful season in the winloss columen would have been diffuclt. Those allocations of abuse are extermly false we treated every player with an a level of respect that every coach does. In my honest opinion if there’s someone to blame for the diffuclties that irvington had this season I blame the adminstration. But because of political reasons the admin. Endangerd kids at levels having only 16 players on the at most times. They didn’t want to get ride of a team because they didn’t want to be the laughing stalk of the league . We were with our win loss record
December 14th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Mr. Harmon and Prep Fan,
I am the Assistant Principal of Irvington High School, and involved situations related to athletics. The allegations regarding the reasons for Coach Kester’s dismissal are baseless. The statement that it “is a matter of record that he bullied players, assaulted a parent and violated safety rules…” is false. To seek further clarity on this issue, please contact the Athletic Director, Jeff Fern, or the Principal of Irvington High School, Pete Murchison, directly.
December 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Gil lemon allowed a hayward football player to transfer to washington and this students transfer was granted despite false information that his mother also moved with him. His mother didn’t move with him, he moved with his 2nd cousin who just so happens to be a washington alumnus AND the head of a feeder football program starting at washington. I know this for a FACT. This student played despite the application being false. Let it go about recruiting.
December 14th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Ash Hater
Bunkers, thumbs….and now taking it in the rear…WOW! ASHY ur kinda creepy! Hani, Steve whatever ur name is….I’m not going to play cat and mouse with you. Obviously your secure in hiding and accussing.. when ur ready to give a name or # I would gladly call u up since you’re too much of a coward to call Lemmon yourself! So go ahead and turn it up to 11 on the bball blogs since you obviously don’t have the coaching skills to turn it up on the bball court! And top ranked 8th graders (LOL ) playing CYO where’s that list? No disrespect if your kid ain’t playing AAU he’s not top ranked.
December 14th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
there is no such football feeder program at washington…newark and union city have pop warner programs…fremont has fremont football which has no high school affiliation…so your so called hayward player at washington has zero basis…
bottom line it is all about the kids so let kendall play…is it fair that the transfer from moreau last year couldn’t play and now kendall can well yes…but 2 wrongs don’t make a right…as far as the recruiting goes, somebody needs to catch him in the act rather than all the allegations if they are indeed true…
gosh people get brutal on here…admins i think you need to start censoring some of this stuff when negative comments are being brought up about 16 and 17 year old kids specifically…one thing to be upset with a team or coach but to rip apart a high school kid, you admins need to erase those comments.
December 14th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Newark will go undefeated again this year. The Cougars (the team of the decade) are the pride of the MVAL.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Post #58 was misinterpreted. Subsequently; Post #64 claimed to be the coach in question; Post #71, another coach put the blame on the admin for endangerng the kids and Post #72, the admin accused of the endangering the kids, side stepped the endangering claim by one of their own coaches and then made their own accusations.
The truth appears to be evident to the casual reader where the blame lays and to that end, Post #58 is retracted.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Hey MVAL expert… do you like your crow cooked rare or well done? And what kind of hat are you going to be eating after Logan beats you three times?
December 16th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I, a graduating senior of Irvington High School, am very disappointed in the dismissal of Coach Casey Kester. I believe that is wasn’t a wise decision. Although I did not find out until the end of the season, MY Head Coach made a lot of sacrifices. He did it for the team and it’s well being.
I can live with the fact that our record was not that great, but down the road I will never regret having been coached by Casey Kester, or joining the Irvington High School Football Team. I hope for the best for Coach Kester, and our football team in the future.
January 17th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
To “MVAL EXPERT” and “The whole truth”.
First off, you guyz both have NO decent returners next season.
Kennedy will definitely will win league next season in both football and basketball.
so stop arguing with each other you females.
March 1st, 2010 at 8:42 pm
hey guys,
just wanted to say that newark doesnt recruit, its just that ashmore is a good coach, so first one player goes there, and lot of times there cousins or little brothers want to go there because of how good they are, not beacuse they go recruit kids
March 7th, 2010 at 10:36 am
LOL Obama?
Look at the potential cream of the crop 2011 list. How many people from Newark do you see? Logan? Washington?
Kennedy has no players whatsoever on that list
April 29th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Well yeahh I just checked out the 2011 cream of the crop list and surprising the guy who had 13 sacks and led his team in receiving in his frist year playing football was listed as one of the top athlete’s being recruited from the bay area but made all league honorable mention?. That’s right Newark Memorial’s Kendall Andrews was listed. And I’m stating this now, newark will go undefeated in mval.ls for football next year. Andrews will put his team on his back just like he did this past bball season leading newark to state for the frist time in 10 years. Skys the limit for this kid.
April 29th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Ohh yeah forgot to mention, nobody else was mentioned on that cream of the crop from the mval. That must mean something for am I just crazy?
April 30th, 2010 at 11:31 am
actually deandre carter from washington was and i know logan has some real good players coming back, plus with 4000 school enrollment they reload every year so irrelevant when it comes to who they lost..i doubt washington takes too much of a step back they have been on a steady rise for a while now…but newark should be solid time will tell…but i would have to lean toward logan and wash, since newark has only competed for a title 1 time in the past few decades that i can remember.
kendall is a great player but i would hardly say he put the bball team on his back and carried them. that was a total team effort by everyone and a great job of coaching. that was not an individual effort. and i am sure the players, coaching staff, and program wouldn’t be too happy with that comment.
and to review your comment regarding kendall only receiving honorable mention TE that is what he deserved last year. Let’s see the 2 guys ahead of him one went to Washinton State and the other to San jose state on full ride scholarships i would say they were both pretty good players. this year no doubt should be a 1st team selection, but newark will have to throw the ball more before that happens.
May 12th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Kendall will sign as a better scgool for football as a linebacker and will be a more effective player at the next level, just wait and see. For you to just assume I’m bragging, shows you never went to the football games. Those other tight ends were one way players, kendall is a full time two way player as a ROOKIE player against those so called better players and he led the mval in sacks and yards per catch as a tight end with 17 yards per catch. Two way player in varsity, first time ever playing. He is light years ahead physically of any linebacker in mval. Unless you go watch football and unless you know the sport you can’t see the truth. Those other guys from washington, kennedy and logan would never get recruited by colleges as 1st year players for varsity like kendall currently is. I know this for a fact, anf we will see who ends up the better player.
May 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
By the way winning league in mval, or making all league doesn’t get you recruited, hard work with talent does, the mval is not a highly respected league, so I hope all ya kids are in aau and summer camps going against REAL comp.
May 12th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Fact check: kendall andrews was the only mval football player listed in the cream of the crop
May 13th, 2010 at 7:13 am
and deandre carter and albert bell
May 13th, 2010 at 7:20 am
i kinda have to agree with norcal pride. it was great coaching and team effort that sent Newark to state. the addition of kendall was definitely a plus, but ashmore is always able to accomplish the unimaginable because he’s great at what he does.
May 13th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
I totally agree about the hoop team for newark, no argument there. But andrews got hated on for mval football and no one ever responds about my issue of kendall and leading mval in sacks and he is a full time two way player. But I know why there is no response, because I’m right. No other player in mval could do it.
May 13th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Toni Pole and Cedric Lousi were both all league both ways. As tight ends and d line get it mind right
May 13th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
I agree about the hoop team, who was honored by the city of newark today. It was a team effort and ashmore is a great tactician. But no one ever responds about the point of how good kendall is as a first time ever player and a two way full time player, 12.5 sacks, 17 yards per catch, 5 touchdowns, 5 forced fumbles. No one else is doing that.
May 13th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
I just wish they would change that prehistoric offense, he’s never gonna be the dominate force on that side of the ball that they need him to be. Newark always has a very good defense but in there games against the two best teams Washington and Logan it was still two very lopsided games. I wonder if he wishes he woulda been a husky after all!
May 14th, 2010 at 9:23 am
what are you looking for a separate post on how great he is in football for a 1st time player..maybe the usa today will post a front page article on this great amazing 1st year talent from newark california….
nobody on here has said he is not a good player or credit for what he did as a 1st year football player..but you are bashing two of the better players to come out of the MVAL in awhile. kendall will get his due this year if he performs at a high level again.
and please read the cream of the crop again deandre carter and bell were on there so end that FACT…
and Poli and Lousi were both 2 way all league players and yes they both played full time TE. now i am not saying they may not have come out of the game some. but that is more attributed to the greater depth and team strengths of washington and logan.
so when u say i dont watch football and you are spouting off ridiculous arguments, well not sure where you are coming from or if this is your 1st year in football as well.
and the 12.5 sacks were great but i would be very very surprised if lousi and poli did not exceed that total against much much better competition. i mean i am sure both has 2 or 3 at least vs mission, american, irvington and kennedy….then throw in the rest of the games i am sure both were around 20. but the key in that 12.5 is who were they against. 0 vs washington i know that and i think he got an early one vs logan but that was it. so against the 2 best teams he played all year he had 1 maybe 2 sacks.
again i am not trying to say kendall is not a great player. he is…i have no doubt he will get a scholarship offer for football. and he will be the best two way te/lb in the league. and he will probably get both 1st team selections. but put up another solid year vs the upper echelon competition before you start ringing the bell of how great he is. especially when comparing to two kids who just signed with a pac 10 school and a rising sjs school.
and i dont think anyone will argue that mval is not a great football league like it was 20 years ago…but washington and logan are still formidable opponenets every year in the playoffs. as both have knocked off some of the ebal teams over the past few years.
May 14th, 2010 at 9:26 am
but thank you for at least going back on your statement that kendall put the bball team on its back and carried them to state. great year for newark bball TEAM…
May 15th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
why cant freshman who are better than jv players are not allowed on jv teams and any msj talent getting any looks from college?
May 18th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Norcalgeek, you are so corny for saying they had over 20 sacks, when kevin greene had 21.5 for sacred heart that was top 3 in the state, top 10 in the country, but these two had over 20 and they were on ZERO stat lists in the state? I saw the games with KENDALL against those guys and they both played less than half his plays, and their backups were not good, their teams have depth at WR and Rb. Oh and kendall statistically outperformed both those guys, I was AT the games. Andrews had 3 sacks in a half against logan, two in one half versus milpitas, and you bring up sacks against garbage irvington? You know nothing about sports, except maybe badminton. Oh by the way, kendall won a state title last year, then goes to newark the next season, newark goes state for first time, course they lost to kendall last season, right? Kendall guards all the best bigs, which allowed mismatches, but u don’t get that.
May 19th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Timothy, all league both ways and nether kid is going to a BCS school, yet andrews is being heavily recruited by 3 BCS schools but they are better right? Lol no one wishes they were a husky timmy, no one.
May 19th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
first of all i didn’t say they had over 20 sacks…and not sure where your all nation stats came from.. i said around 20 (read the post).if coaches don’t input stats into websites the final stats are schewed which i guess you did not know…(washington played 13 games i am guessing lousi was fairly close, thats only 1.5 per game.)
and i said nothing about kendall not being a great player…i was more defending the two players you are bashing to try and help kendall look better. and you keep saying statistically outperformed? in what sacks, tackles, yards, td’s, catches? statistics are a measure but only part of a measure. washington has many more players to throw the ball to so essentially lousi and Poli were both great blockers as well which is half of what a TE does. plus with more offensive weapons the ball gets shared more…
you also discuss basketball ability yet want to discuss football talent…yes he is a better bball player than both the others i am sure.
you say they didn’t have any backups…but i believe washington’s other TE was player of the week vs cal high in the playoffs with over 100 yds and a few TD’s i believe, not too shabby
“all league both ways and neither kid is going to a BCS school?” i guess washington state isn’t in the pac-10 and the pac-10 isn’t a BCS school now? and while SJS is not a BCS school i think they are on the right track to being relevant again with an outstanding recruiting class this year and a new coach.
seriously you are losing all credibility right now…1) first u say nobody else on cream of the crop from MVAL when there are actually 2 others…2) then you say neither went to a BCS school when one did. 3) you also claim to have better stats when nobody has any stats on lousi or poli in terms of tackles and sacks, why because they win games so there respective teams dont care. yardage and TD’s from TE position i have a hard time believing either were under kendals but not sure maybe one of the writers can help out with that.
funny thing is stats can be made to show whatever you want them to. congratulations if he is getting recruited by BCS schools i hope he gets something just like every other deserving kid. kendall is a great player and i believe he will be rewarded…but in my experience until you sign that letter with an actual offer IN HAND. not letters or phone calls or visits to coaches it is not a for sure thing.
you sure are putting the pressure on for him to be lights out and lead the cougars to an undefeated season…i hope you keep the name “keepitreal” and look forward to your posts throughout the season to backup the talk.
all 3 are great players leave it alone…
May 19th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Good points Norcal I was reading some of those entries by Keepitreal and it sounds he doesnt know much about the MVAL scene. I believe the league as a whole is improving team by team and really exploding the last five or so years with kids earning schollys at a higher rate than previous years. My top three for the MVAL is going to be WHS,Logan, and JFK. Washington has the Carter kid back and from what someone posted on another link looks like the kids only getting better with his combine performance making the all combine team. They lose Ross and Lousi, but have been very good reloading the next year. Logan as always will reload with 4000 students and a very good Frosh program last year. Kennedy is my surprise team I think Michealetos just gets those kids prepared with the lack of student body they have. as far as Newark goes they will like always be around the 500 mark but until they change that offense and utiize Andrews better Im afraid its gonna be another ten game season for the cougs.
May 19th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
when will deandre actually get his own page on rivals i haven’t seen him or bell or any other mval player
May 21st, 2010 at 8:54 am
Norcal, you obviously didn’t go to the games, period.
May 21st, 2010 at 9:05 am
By the way norcal, I don’t need credibility with you.
May 21st, 2010 at 10:04 am
Keepitreal… this kid you are talking about didn’t get all league because the coaches didn’t vote for him in the all-league meeting. In my opinion, the best judge of talent and impact in a game would be the coaches, and the coaches clearly felt that Pole and Louisi were better. I’m not saying Andrews isn’t good, I’m sure he is. But as a guy who watched the Newark vs. Logan game, the Newark vs. Washington game and the league championship game between Logan and Washington it was clear to me that Pole was the best TE/DE in the league. Furthermore, I remember that Logan absolutely thrashed Newark 44-6, and while I’m not positive about how many sacks Andrews had, I don’t remember 3 but I do remember Logan running for over 200 yards that game and holding Newark under 150 total yards… overall, which d-linemen/TE do you think did better? Pole dominated Louisi in the Washington matchup so again I think it’s fair to say that the order of:
1.Pole
2.Louisi
3.Andrews
is a fair one.
May 25th, 2010 at 2:37 am
Fakeobserver, andrews had 3 sacks in the first half against logan and a TD catch. He sacked the QB and forced a fumble on logans very first offensive play, but you missed that right? For you and all the haters, those other kids are good, but I feel andrews will be the best at the next level, and with luck and hard work, maybe beyond. Now all we can do is wait and see. But I will always sat it, pole, louisi both been playing football over for years, andrews one serason in his life. We know who is better, but small minded people choose to lie to themselves, kind of like saying sarah palin is intelligent! Mvalnonobserver missed the 1st sack of the logan game!? Liar
May 25th, 2010 at 2:37 am
Fakeobserver, andrews had 3 sacks in the first half against logan and a TD catch. He sacked the QB and forced a fumble on logans very first offensive play, but you missed that right? For you and all the haters, those other kids are good, but I feel andrews will be the best at the next level, and with luck and hard work, maybe beyond. Now all we can do is wait and see. But I will always sat it, pole, louisi both been playing football over for years, andrews one serason in his life. We know who is better, but small minded people choose to lie to themselves, kind of like saying sarah palin is intelligent! Mvalnonobserver missed the 1st sack of the logan game!? Liar you weren’t there, and I was hater.
May 25th, 2010 at 2:38 am
Fakeobserver, andrews had 3 sacks in the first half against logan and a TD catch. He sacked the QB and forced a fumble on logans very first offensive play, but you missed that right? For you and all the haters, those other kids are good, but I feel andrews will be the best at the next level, and with luck and hard work, maybe beyond. Now all we can do is wait and see. But I will always sat it, pole, louisi both been playing football over for years, andrews one serason in his life. We know who is better, but small minded people choose to lie to themselves, kind of like saying sarah palin is intelligent! Mvalnonobserver missed the 1st sack of the logan game!? Liar you weren’t there, and I was hater. Andrews: one year varsity ball; division 1 recruit, could those other two guys accomplish that? NEVER
May 25th, 2010 at 11:46 am
i can’t even respond anymore…or respond on your perspective…i hope he gets everything you are praising because he is a heck of a player…but those 2 already got theirs, and i agree with the ranking list. logan beat washington in head to head so no doubt. obviously washington had the great playoff run and got hot at the right time, but logan got them head to head and played a much much better game than washington that night no doubt…
but i would check out the updated list and where the MVAL players finished at the combine along with the rest of california. while combine numbers aren’t everything they are still an important aspect in separating athletes for the next level when trying to compare film of players who have more or less talent around them or playing different level of competition.
http://rise.espn.go.com/football/articles/2010/05/20-Oakland-combine-results.aspx
July 19th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
American is going to be the league champions this coming season eventhough all of u guys r on logan and washingtons ….eventhough the head coach isn’t fair wit how he treats the kids
November 27th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
when do the 2010 mval all-league teams come out?