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October 1st, 2010 at 11:32 am
how can de la salle be ranked above don bosco prep in n.j.???? saw them in maryland and they have a brutal running game and would destroy de la salle….
October 1st, 2010 at 11:41 am
They have an 87 member roster. That is huge. How big is the school? Do kids go there just to play football?
October 1st, 2010 at 11:43 am
Maxpreps has De la Salle ranked 14th nationally and Don Bosco is #2.
October 1st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Bill Gunn, this DLS team is much better at this point in the season than last year’s. Anyone who has been watching this year’s team knows that. Bosco would not just run through the DLS defense. I watched the Bosco vs. Gilman game and Canevari was impressive, but this Bosco team is not as good as last year’s. DLS just took out Bishop Gorman from Nevada where the average weight on the line is 285 pounds and they have as many as fourteen potential D-1 recruits on the current varsity team that are starting, not all are seniors either. I have a lot of respect for Bosco, and I don’t know if DLS would beat them, but I can assure you Bosco would not destroy DLS this year.
October 1st, 2010 at 2:21 pm
who r da top teams from socal that possibly could play de la n da state game?
October 1st, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Right now the top contenders for the Open game are Mission Viejo, Servite, Centennial Corona, Lakewood, Serra (Gardena), Westlake, and Norco. Of those teams Mission Viejo, Servite, CC, Lakewood, and Norco are D-1. CC and Norco are in the same league and MV, Servite, and Lakewood are in the same playoff bracket.
October 1st, 2010 at 3:46 pm
rensgaqde 10, you may have a point and that fullback was a defensive end last year. He’s a beast and tomorrow,against bergen catholic, we will know more. the freshman and sophs this yeas will insure a possible 36-0 record for the next 3 years.. this is a very good group after 33 seniors and 10 div 1 players graduated.. was very happy dls beat up gorman as they were overrated. boscos team speed is awesome and that fullback does 4.4-4.5 40′s and weighs about 223 lbs on a 6=[6’1″ frame..very tough diciplined kid who does no mambos or chest pounding..
October 1st, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Don’t think Gorman is overrated their two losses this year are to two nationally ranked teams and should run right through Nevada. The final score was 28-14, but closer than that really. Gorman is very young much like Bosco is this year and became undisciplined as the game wore on. DLS conditioning and heart won the game for them as talent and size wise they were outmatched.
October 1st, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Again some good thoughts but Nevada has never been a big hs football state. Gorman schedule outside of dls and that arizona is weak and chandler,not much. talk about conditioning,bosco never stops comming with that fast,in your face offense.. i saw Gorman play the Arizona team and think Bosco beats them by 4-5 t.d’s… they hit very hard and two players have not recovered from trying to tackle bosco’s fullback.. dls goes undefeated as will bosco but if they played i think bosco win handly.. i enjoy out talks renegade as you appear to be a good guy with good knowledge… if you cantry and watch bosco vs bergen catholic tomorrow at 1pm in n.j at 1pm EST… SHOULD BE A GOOD SINCE B.C. COACH,NUNZIO CAMPANILE, WAS BOSCOS OFFENSIVE COOD FOR 10 YEARS AND TOOK OVER B.C THIS YEAR…
October 1st, 2010 at 5:11 pm
OUTSIDER,BOSCO ENROLLMENT IS ABOUT 850 BOYS AND IS LOCATED IN NORTHEN N.J ABOUT 25 MILES FROM TIMES SQUARE.
October 1st, 2010 at 5:16 pm
OUTSIDER,I THINK FREEMAN HAS THEM RANKED#2?? WHA’TS THE DIFFERENCE OTHERS HAVE THEM DOWN FURTHER??? WHERE DOES USA TODAY,PREP NATION HAVE THEM??
October 1st, 2010 at 5:31 pm
All the rankings have different methods for accumulating them. Some are more free flowing than others. USA Today rarely if ever jumps one team over another in the rankings unless the top team loses. So it’s hard to move up if the teams in front of you keep winning. Rivals national rankings are very free flowing, sometimes too much so where teams are moved up and down despite winning or not even playing for no apparent reason. At the beginning of the year DLS was ranked ahead of one team, they both did not play the first week and then the next week DLS was moved down and the other team was moved up above DLS for no reason. I like to have a little bit more free flowing but too much is never a good thing either. Then you have the Calpreps rankings that are done by computers and those usually don’t get reliable until playoffs when all the teams have played out their entire schedules. At the end of the year, I think Calpreps has the best rankings by far imho. They actually have a rankings comparison so you can see where certain teams are ranked in all the major national polls. Here is the link.
http://calpreps.com/2010/polls_view.htm
Bosco is ahead of DLS in all polls except USA Today which coincidentally is the highest ranking DLS has at 9. USA Today used to be really good I thought, but recently, I have completely changed my mind on them. They started doing these preview and highlight shows ala maxpreps, and it is demonstrating their knowledge of high school football is just bad. They are supposed to have regional guys who then report in to the main guy who does their rankings, but there are some very overrated and underrated teams and really no chance for anyone to move up unless a team ahead of them loses. They may be the least reliable in my opinion. Nobody will ever get it just right, because there are many teams who might matchup well with some teams vs others, but they just seem to have lost the edge as the premier poll for HS football.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:02 pm
great info and thank you. will talk again after bosco plays…
October 1st, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Since the board doesn’t seem to be working, it’s 21-0 DLS 1:40 left in the 1st quarter.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:46 pm
28-0 DLS 2nd quarter.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:49 pm
SRV 0 Granada 0 end first.
Cal 14, MV 3 end first.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Wow Granada hanging in tougher than I thought. Not surprised Cal is winning I predicted them to, although thought it would be a close game.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:57 pm
28-7 DLS. Foothill scores on a misdirection play that goes 78 yards.
October 1st, 2010 at 7:57 pm
score for concord game?
October 1st, 2010 at 7:58 pm
or mt d vs antioch ??
October 1st, 2010 at 8:03 pm
renegade is reinauld’s family, watch out
October 1st, 2010 at 8:05 pm
@ bill gunn freeman is computer generated vs writer’s poll ,i been seeing them around #17
October 1st, 2010 at 8:07 pm
35-7 DLS at halftime.
October 1st, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Cal 24 MV 3 @ the half
October 1st, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Surprised that the Concord and Heritage game is close… Concord is known to blow teams out with their offense
October 1st, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Cal 38-3, 3:07 left in third
October 1st, 2010 at 8:56 pm
score for Berkeley and Pinole Game?
October 1st, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Cal 45-3
October 1st, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Wow I got three of four predictions right on the EBAL, but man I was wrong on all accounts of how these games would go. Really thought Foothill would push DLS for a half, but DLS was going from the get go. More impressive is that they did it without Blake Renaud and Michael Barton who both sat out with injuries. DLS didn’t play great, but Foothill could not get any offense going in first half except for one big pass play where DLS completely bit on the misdirection and Foothill qb gave a quick shovel pass that went for a 70 yard score.
Cal blew out MV. I can’t remember the last time the Mustangs took a beating like that at the hands of anyone except DLS. Have to wonder if Sullas would have made much of a difference, sure MV Alum will be able to fill in on that. But man, Serra barely hung on to beat MV (albeit with Sullas), so how good is Cal this year? Right now they have to be the favorite to really challenge DLS for the EBAL title.
Granada shuts out SRV!!!!!!! What?????? 21-0 final score. Boy I never saw this coming. I was way off. Guessing that Atkinsons must have figured heavily into this game and what happened to Kline? No points up there?
AV tops Livermore 34-7. Thought AV would win but it would be closer, guess the Cowboys are not as close to getting that win as originally thought.
The EBAL is going to be fun to watch this year based on these scores. Good stuff.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Final score for DLS-Foothill was 49-7.
October 1st, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Someone have the story on Granada SR? I saw AV beat Liv, Cowboys hung for a while.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:09 pm
R10-
Noticeable difference from Nottingham to this year. The two touted WR’s from MV had catches, but there was resilient D by Cal all around. As much as Turner and McGovern are talented, both QB’s looked average by EBAL standards, and the CHS DB’s neutralized this year’s combos. The Grizzly line on both sides of the ball had major impact on this lopsided win. Cal ran at will. Agree not having a starting RB has impact. Subs entered at 45-3.
SRV lost?!
October 1st, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Hey R10: Just got back from the game and 1st things 1st MV needed Sullas out there game would have been alot different. All Cal did was drop 7 back rush 4 and with Locki not as accurate as he could be GAME OVER. On Cal’s side they played great tonite ran hard got turnovers (4 total including a 100yd fumble recovery when was the last time you saw that in a HS football game)all props to CAL they are the real deal deserved to win tonite.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Foothill out manned to the man. They better drop the double wing T- it was the worst offense I’ve seen in 20 years. I thought Coach Sweeney could do better than that. Houston looked poised and sharp tonite, threw the ball where no one but a DLS receiver could catch it. 35-7 at half- it could have been worse.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:17 pm
I don’t think that Sullas would have been able to make more than a couple of TD difference, if that. Then Cal would have left the first string in and it would have been 59-17. Monte Vista could not make their passing work, even short across the middle.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:22 pm
MV was humbled. Any way you take it, to get 45 thrown up on yur ass is a whippin’. What did they score 3 ?
October 1st, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Renegades- sae Barton and Renaud on the side lines again- how long- any serious injuries? I like the way the 2nd team D caused 2 fumbles in the 4th.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Outsider that is the point Sullas opens up alot of the passing for Lockie and I promise you he would have run better than how they did plus they would not have had all the 3 and outs they did (he gets them alot of 1st downs), with no running game Cal just sat back rushed their front 4 (very well by the way) and MV just couldn’t get anything going. Again all props to CAL they played really well and deserved the win…
October 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
The first drive by MV they got down to short yardage but Cal stopped them. MV settled for a field goal. After that Cal stopped them a bunch more times at short yardage but MV elected to go for it and never made it. They probably could have had a couple more field goals but tried for TDs instead.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:30 pm
I am waiting to hear about the Granada vs SRV game. How did Granada score and why was SRV not able to stop them.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Cal’s O Line and D were the difference, stronger than the MV kids
October 1st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Outsider, all of us are waiting to find that out. It is the question of the hour.
Big Joe- Renaud got injured against Gorman, from what I heard they were originally going to have him suit up just in case of an emergency situation, but then decided not to. They play AV next week. He may suit up for that game, but would not be surprised to see them hold him out before they play SRV and MV back to back. I don’t know what happened to Barton, they just said he wasn’t playing tonight with an undisclosed injury. Also one of DLS starting O-line sat out sick, but can’t remember who.
In all honesty, if you can’t get anything going on the ground against DLS you will have a hard time doing much of anything. Case and point MV game 1 last year, Mustangs ran well against DLS allowed Nottingham to pick his targets through less coverage as DLS respected run. MV game 2, no running game for MV Nottingham has to try and force it through DLS coverage. DLS D-line has come together very nicely. They may not be quite as good as last year’s but they are pretty damn impressive for having three new players on the line and they rotating some of them in and out with other players as well. The only way Foothill would have success with running the ball tonight is if the misdirection really worked out for them and it only did on one play. DLS stayed true to their assignments on the other plays and that’s not going to allow Foothill to go anywhere. But don’t underestimate the Falcons, they have a solid defense that wasn’t helped out by their offense as DLS started numerous drives in Foothill territory.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Ben Enos of the Times saying Barton had mild concussion. Lucas Dunne ran for 120 on 15 carries and 3 td’s. Houston passed for 232 yards on 13-17 passing for 2 TD’s and one pick. Soph LB/WR Hutchings had a good game for the Spartans on both sides, but he missed a few tackles on defense. That will improve with experience. Other soph Taipepe Vitale got his first varsity TD in the 4th quarter. DLS did put the ball on the ground 4 times tonight, but don’t think they lost any of them.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Concord had a nice win tonight over Heritage and Pinole Valley beats Berkeley in dramatic fashion with a last second TD pass.
Pitt was trounced by Granite Bay 45-7 to fall to 0-5. Ouch.
Deer Valley fell as I predicted they would to Vacaville. Close through a half before Vaca took over.
October 1st, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Sullas must have also been their middle linebacker, as Cal just ran at will. Lockie and Seamus both missed a lot of wide open receivers. Bergman has his work cut out for him to get this team back on track for the rest of the EBAL season. MV got the early FG and Cal fumbled the kickoff right back to them. They were looking at a 10-0 lead right out of the gate, but instead lost yardage, went backwards and didn’t even get 3 out of it. Cal then scored on just about every possession once their offense got the ball. I can only remember a couple of punts, and one was with the subs in late in the 4th quarter. There’s really no way to frame this, other than Cal is better than a lot of people thought, and MV has a lot of work to do. They now have a QB controversy, and when Sullas gets back, they still have to worry about that porous defense. They have next week against Livermore to get well, and then it is on to DLS and the rest of the brutal EBAL schedule.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Berkeley walked down Appian Way to the forum in Pin-hole. Mabey they put some gas in the bus and take the old road home. Jackets jack-a-lated in October.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Coach Swill-ey has been dominated by De La for years. I remember some 63-00 beatings, 56 pts in playoffs etc. The best team the birds had lost 33-7 in the NCS final in ’06 to the Spartans. They need to change those uniforms to pure yellow.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Here is the word on SRV-Granada. Two Granada TD’s were direct result of two blocked punts that gave Granada ball on the Wolves’ 25 and 12 yard lines. Atkinson had 122 yards rushing but 88 of them came on the last TD of the game in the 3rd quarter. Don’t know how many carries he had. The real story of the game was the Mats defense which sacked Kline six times and gave up only 138 yards passing to go along with the blocked punts. Impressive win for the Mats and really adds some intrigue to the league. They take on Foothill next week.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:13 pm
excuse me first blocked punt Granada got ball at 33 yard line of the Wolves and Kline only had 113 yards passing.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Was SRV thought to be better than they really were? Or a bad/unlucky game? Or was Granada that good?
October 1st, 2010 at 11:24 pm
With the Times #2, 3 & 4 teams losing and Cal trouncing MV so badly, there is no doubt that Cal will now move up to the #2 slot in the polls behind DLS. Then it gets real tricky. #7 Concord has to move up with their big victory over Heritage, maybe not to #3 but then who else do you put there? Certainly not Monte Vista, and SRV got shut out by the previously unknown Granada defense. Deer Valley with their weak wins over both 1-4 Washington and CP? Can #6 Foothill actually move up after a 49-7 loss? #13 Granada is sure to rise in the polls and is now one of the few undefeated teams left, but can they climb 10 spots? They would have to be ahead of both SRV and MV. If 4-0 Mack wins big tomorrow against Salesian, they’ll gain some votes. Encinal may move up as well, but they lost to Serra by a lot wider margin than MV, who nearly beat them. AV should move up as their only loss right now is to Concord and that looks a lot better then it did a couple of weeks ago. PV got a big win over Berkeley and will get some votes. #9 Alhambra took care of business against a disappointing LL squad. Miramonte may jump up into the top 15 and if NG can go to 5-0 with a win tomorrow and may earn a ranking a well.
After 1-2, the rankings should be pretty helter skelter. One thing is for sure, there will be a lot of movement.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:29 pm
I think that the EBAL teams need to stay on top but be shuffled around. Concord will be in there somewhere as well but I don’t think they could beat the top half of the EBAL.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Outsider, who knows? It’s too early to tell. Many of us, myself included thought their opening win over Mitty showed that they were going to be really good. But Mitty lost to Palo Alto the following week and barely hung to beat Sacred Heart Cathedral tonight when SHC went for two instead tying the game and sending it into OT. We will have to see how the league games play out next week. Foothill has a better defense than is showed by the score tonight so they could give Granada trouble. SRV has to take on Cal now. I mean what happens if SRV takes out Cal and Foothill takes out Granada both of which are plausible. Then it’s a real mess. Only time will tell. For now here is how I would rank the teams in the East Bay, although there are a few that have to play tomorrow.
1. DLS
2. Cal
3. Granada
4. SRV
5. Mack
6. Foothill
7. Concord
8. Monte Vista
9. Encinal
10. Heritage
11. Amador Valley
12. Alhambra
13. Freedom
14. Deer Valley
t15. Pinole Valley
t15. Logan
Monte Vista has to drop below some of those teams. That was an absolute butt whooping they took and yes I know Sullas was gone, but they have games where they will have a chance to improve their ranking which is the beauty of the EBAL. And for anyone who claims there is a bias towards the EBAL in my rankings or others, they went 22-2 combined in non-league which is pretty impressive. Concord and Mack both have physical running games that sounds like they would give MV problems so that factors in as well. Granada has to be ahead of SRV no exceptions since they are undefeated. I don’t know if they are really that good, but they proved they can play with the big boys tonight so for the time being they should be there. DV drops way down as College Park was handled again tonight by Freedom to go on top of the Wolverines’ loss. Logan and Mack both play tomorrow so this could change as well.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:45 pm
That is not a misprint when I say Concord has a physical running game by the way as Pica is very good.
October 1st, 2010 at 11:50 pm
The last time Monte Vista was schooled like tonite (other than by DLS) was when coach Billecci was the DC at Logan HS and Drew McAllister was the senior qb. That yr Logan’s D was primed and ready for everything and anything MV had. The CBs and Safeties in that game neautralized their much touted air attack in that game as well a D-Line that was pretty stout against the run all year long. Looks like Coach Billecci has got his D at Cal High ready for alot this yr…Cal High is the real deal… #2 for sure… till the get a chance to get at DLS… rootin for Coach Billecci and his Cal High team!!!
October 1st, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Said it before the season the EBAL is TUFF and if you aren’t ready to play you will lose any team can beat any team (except DLS)…
1.DLS
2.CAL
3.GRANADA
4.CONCORD
5.MACK
6.SRV
7.FOOTHILL
8.MV
9.HERITAGE
10.AMADOR VALLEY
11.ENCINAL
12.ALHAMBRA
13.FREEDOM
14.DEER VALLEY
15.PINOLE VALLEY
October 2nd, 2010 at 12:30 am
Foot- in- the hill should drop out of the top 10-they are terrible. Any well coached team would stop that offense.
October 2nd, 2010 at 12:33 am
Can Salesian get by Mack? I hear Coach Carter(Zo) is pulling for his Richmond home-towners against previous coached team. Is Contra Costa CC goin’ to win this year?
October 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 am
God sooo close for heritage but no cigar… man that has to be a toughy… Pittsburg got man handled only scoring seven points the whole game against
October 2nd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Yo mama, Zo is always pulling for Mack and CCC won their first game this year. Jet Pride!
October 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Granada is the real deal. They are not just the Atkinsons plus some guys. Granada dropped everyone into coverage and their defensive line was able to get penetration all night. Granada was more physical than SRV. SRV was not helped by 7-8 drops. SRV had some success with the run, but would not stick with it.
October 2nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
crazy night in the EBAL…tired of hearing that MV was missing there RB…they all got 60 man rosters out in the EBAL and they are missing one and they get a free pass…while other teams with 25-30 man rosters are missing people and then they just suck when they lose, they don’t get to use the injury card. or how about the guys they lose to grades. How many EBAL teams lost key players to grades? either everyone gets the excuse or nobody does bottom line.
Good win Cal, clearly the 2nd best team in East Bay this year. but still a long ways to go.
great win for granada and their program as well..looks like possibly 7 EBAL teams in playoffs this year…should make up half the playoffs. throw in (3 from BVAL) DV, Heritage, and Freedom (although i still believe Pitt will find a way in by qualifying because there won’t be enough D1 capable teams. then SL, Logan, and Newark…committee gonna pull teeth the rest of the way…
Wouldn’t be shocked to see the EBAL ranked 1-7 in playoffs either. although if heritage or DV run the table in BVAL then they will sneak in there.
concord looks to be the favorite with casa grande for D2 now…pinole and northgate coming on strong as well and we will see if wash gets it together.
October 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
I think that Miramonte cracks into the top 15 after their convincing win vs. Acalanes. The regular season finale against Alhambra should be a great one
October 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 am
oops and bhigh as well somewhere down there…
October 2nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
Concord is the real deal. Their quarterback is sensational. Numerous times, Heritage had him locked up in 4th and long or third and long situations. But, he inevitably scrambled his way out of pressure to complete passes down the field. I haven’t seen a quarterback this good at scrambling while keeping his eyes downfield sine Diondre Borel. He also possesses the unique ability to throw pinpoint passes underneath and deep down the field. Saw him throw a 10 yard out on a line. Looked like something you see on Saturday afternoons.
October 2nd, 2010 at 10:53 am
NorCal just so you know MV only has 38 kids on Varsity not 60…that said Cal knows they got a break with Sullas being out and they took advantage of it. Cal played great on both sides of the ball last night and took advantage of 3 of the 4 turnovers scoring on those. They are going t obe tough to beat and will definitely give DLS a good game, looking forward to that one. MV needs to regroup and get themselves back on track some people need to step up, with that said McGovern deserves huge kudos for last nights game he was the only bright spot for MV.
October 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Hats off to Concord….Heritage had coverage sacks MANY times but Concord QB can scramble!Heritage wins by 14 with McDonald. Poty will get better and replace McDonald in time.
October 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
MV got 2 big turnovers in the first half, but could not capitalize on them. The fumble recovery on the kickoff after MV went up 3-0 on the first drive of the game gave them the ball on about the 25 yard line and an opportunity to go up 10-0. And the McGovern intercetion at about midfield that he returned to about the 15. They had their chances, but no one on MV came up with any big plays to produce points. Sullas would have made a difference, but Cal’s line dominated on both sides of the ball and the MV QBs looked confused out there. MV better fix that run defense and hope Sullas gets better or they could be in for trouble next week against Livermore as RB Drew is their best player and can do damage if allowed much room to run. Saw where the Livermore QB left the game vs. Amador in the first half and they got blon out after that. I wonder if he will be ready in time for MV next week?
October 2nd, 2010 at 1:00 pm
rengade10, Bosco 38-Bergen Catholic 18.
October 2nd, 2010 at 1:13 pm
One player doesnt make a difference @ comment #61
October 2nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Prep Fan the Livermore qb was ejected which means he will have to sit out the game against MV if i’m not mistaken.
Gunn-Big win for Bosco, I know this was pretty anticipated matchup with Campanile leaving Bosco to go to Bergen and both teams being solid squads this year but looks like it was a no contest.
October 2nd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
renegade10, b.c scored and almost scored again but then bosco started… big defensive plays resulted in 28 unanswered points.. the big fullback,about 140 yards abd his numbers were ripped off his jersey.. hard hits and some injuries for b.c. bosco coach is the best i’ve seen.. dlsalle did well and both teams are off to the racxes.. best. bg
October 2nd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
why did the livermore QB get ejected?
October 2nd, 2010 at 2:24 pm
according to the paper he got into a fight with an AV player.
October 2nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Regarding playoffs for D1, I don’t think they have to fill out the bracket with 16 teams. I thought they have to make it 12 and then can fill it out to a max of 16 if need be so that deserving teams don’t get left out. So let’s say that DLS, Cal, Granada, SRV, MV, and Foothill make it. Take Heritage, DV, and Freedom. B-High should win the rest of their games, they are in. Logan as well. Then it comes down to Pitt and AV to fill out the twelve. Maybe College Park, but they don’t look great either. Don’t forget seven teams making it from the EBAL is unlikely because the way the league looks right now it’s very possible that for a team like AV, last night will be there only win in league meaning that they would finish 3-7. If that is the case I don’t want to see them in the playoffs. Except I fear that because of the extra money, the committee will force the bracket to have as many teams as possible.
October 2nd, 2010 at 2:59 pm
That’s right R10. I had forgotten just why he left the game. He got into a scuffle with the Dons during Ewanich’s 100 interception return. With him out, MV should be able ot focus on Drew and hoepfully if Sullas does play, they won’t need to use him much and he’ll be able to rest up for the DLS game the following week.
Speaking of Ewanich, what a game he had last night. 2 receptions for 58 yards, both for TDs; 3 rushes for 28 yards; A 100 yard interception return for a TD; and an 80 yard kickoff return for a TD. That sounds like the game Atkinson had last week against Castro Valley.
October 2nd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
FINAL – Bishop O’Dowd 34 Arroyo 7
Where is Don Juan? Coach JB? All of those Arroyo fans that were talking about “Year of the Dons?” & “2010 HAAL Champions”. All of you “experts” that said Arroyo was gonna be “top 3, guaranteed”. You got what to say now? Coach JB said he “blasted all of the OAL” & he was “bringing the OAL into the HAAL”. Where are all of you Dons hiding? Don Juan, anymore predictions? LOL!!! OMG!!! Arroyo 1-3!!!! Oh wait don’t tell me Don Juan your coach is gonna blast everyone in this league and Arroyo will finish 7-3. Maybe now you will shut up & play?
I got a new one for you:
2010 the year that the Dons’ coaches and players learned to stop running their mouths.
or
2010 – the year Arroyo learned that illegal recruiting & running your mouth doesn’t win championships.
October 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
According to Pleasanton Patch Ewanich had (AV- Ewanich 3-105) Receiving yards. Amador should have a shot at making NCS this year.
October 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 pm
The EBAL or any other league does not deserve to have any team under .500 make the playoffs. Limit the big DIV to 8 period.
Let’s see, DLS, DeerValley, Cal, SRV, Granada, Logan, Heritage, Freedom.
October 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 pm
DV out MV or Foothill in. DV way overrated imo to start off the year and it’s starting to show now. They have some good athletes, but no game changers like the two Williams last year. But I agree, it needs to go back to eight especially with more teams being moved from D-1 down to D-2 it should be even more selective. Or, they could go to an Open format like the CCS, although I’m sure a lot of schools would not want that. Also guess we can’t forget about San Leandro as the HAAL is so bad who knows who will win. If they do, they are in.
October 3rd, 2010 at 2:55 am
Who do you think is the best WR in the NCS? just wondering what people think? Maybe Wrs from concord or the WR from Amador?
October 3rd, 2010 at 6:34 am
Bill Gunn-you seem to know a lot about Don Bosco. Could you comment on the following email I received. I have no idea if it is true but did come from a credible source. If true, puts a little tarnish on what they accomplish.
“According to the local media, my observations and community knowledge – Don Bosco High School uses host families that provide room and board to the kids that come in from all over the country to play football there. The host families house 2-4 kids each (for room and board) to build the football and other sport programs. They have players on the football roster from FL and the Midwest (top ‘out of state’ recruits). Many more of them live in one of three on-campus buildings that accommodate 30-40 more athletes.
That is indeed a whole different system than everyone else has – it is like a university not a high school.”
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:18 am
In the good old days only 4 teams qualified for playoffs. The League Champions! If we went back that system we could incorporate a real NorCal championship before StateChampionship.
October 3rd, 2010 at 11:20 am
WOw, never knew that Catholic schools in High school were like that. Is it the saem situation at Bishop Goram? They have that kids from Novato playing RB I assume they recruited him there. Must have pisssed Brackett off he was probably looking forward to getting him for years.
October 3rd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Perkin: I don’t know that this is fact, was hoping for confirmation from Bill Gunn who seems to know alot about Bosco. As for Brackett didn’t I see where they moved there in grade school? I have absolutely no idea if this is the case at Gorman. Maybe some of the Cal supporters who know Sanchez and the program can comment. It doesn’t happen at De La that I do know.
October 3rd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
According to Ben and Jimmy, Powell moved to Las Vegas when he was seven I doubt Bishop Gorman even knew who he was.
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/hs_sports/stapleton/Is_the_Don_Bosco_Prep_football_team_too_big.html?c=y&page=1
Read this article, kind of addresses about what you said Boysoffall. There is one error in there, they were not the first team to beat DLS on their home field since 1986. It would be good for a writer to do a little fact checking since DLS lost 2 home games in 2004.
October 3rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/hs_sports/stapleton/Is_the_Don_Bosco_Prep_football_team_too_big.html?c=y&page=1
Here’s another one.
October 3rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Whoops, meant this one.
http://blog.nj.com/hssportsextra/2010/06/bergen_catholic_wins_battle_fo.html
October 3rd, 2010 at 4:52 pm
BVAL Expert re: post #80, You have to put Bryce McGovern of MV into that discussion, if not at the top of that list. He is one of the most prolific receivers in state history. Although he didn’t score any TDs on Friday night, he did make a few nice catches and had an amazing interception. He was about the only bright spot for MV in the 45-3 loss.
October 3rd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
The “best” receivers can’t necessarily be identified by their stats. More credit goes to the QB that can put the ball in just the right place to make an easy catch. Getting the ball delivered on the money every time doesn’t make a player a better receiver, it only makes his stats go up.
I think that there are many better receivers than those that get beautiful balls thrown at them from exceptional QB’s. The receivers that have to make constant adjustments, run the DB’s out of the play, turn into instant defenders when the ball is short, catch wobbly rainbows, stretch for a ball thrown long or out of bounds can easily be considered “better” receivers than the kid that gets it in stride every time. As a coach, I’d rather have the kid that learned to fight for every ball.
The receivers that top the league stats do so because the QB is topping the stats. Rarely, if ever, does a receiver make it to the top with out the QB already being there. In my opinion, those stats aren’t fair, a reception consists of 80% QB throw and 20% catching the ball. If Lloyd throws the ball 50 times a game right to his receiver, then does that make that receiver the best at his position?
Nope.
October 3rd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
To all Heritage fans, Concord was missing their nose tackle (best D-linemen on the team) for friday’s game and Heritage used it to its advantage by gashing the ball up the middle all night including the last drive. Injuries are a very important aspect of the game but not an excuse for a team with double the players as Concord. Who would expect that both defenses would factor in the 4th qtr. What a game!
October 3rd, 2010 at 5:43 pm
#80 BVAL expert- “Who do you think is the best WR in the NCS? just wondering what people think?”
McGovern is a tremendous player, but I’d have to go with Trevor Davis from Alhambra. Alhambra doesn’t throw the ball very much, and yet he’s always double and triple teamed. Even at that, so far this season, he’s scored a touchdown 29% of the time that he’s touched the ball (24 touches, 7 TD’s, including punt returns and kickoff returns), and averaged 28 yards per touch.
October 3rd, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Regarding that Don Bosco game at Concord, DLS controled that game and was up 21-6, should of, could have won that game. DLS could not convert on a couple of drives late in the game to keep ball contol and lost on a last second field goal. Coaches DID NOT make good 2nd half adjustments and QB had a poor 3rd-4th quater after a stellar half. Bosco was beatable that nite, De La just didn’t finish like they usually do.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 pm
I’d put Foothill’s Cameron Rowland up there for best WR if they had a qb that could throw the ball. Unfortunately he has to play as a wing back in the double wing and when they go to a spread everybody knows that they can only pass to a certain distance so they can cheat up to limit the damage. But last year he was up there as one of the top WR in the East Bay along with McGovern. Bryce is one of the pound for pound best players in the East Bay. Yes he was helped last year by having a phenomenal qb, but you still have to make the catches and then create for yourself. I would also put Mack’s Marcus Peters in the discussion. He is the top DB in the East Bay this year, but he is also one of the best WR’s.
October 3rd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Bulldog forever,
Any early thoughts on Alhambra-Mira game in the league finale?
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:21 pm
“Any early thoughts on Alhambra-Mira game in the league finale?”
Scl Alum,
Provided that both Alhambra and Miramonte keep winning, that would be an unbelieveable game for all the marbles. Gotta love high school sports.
Ross Anderson of Miramonte is having a great year at quarterback, but he personally ran for 162 yards himself against Acalanes. If he is primarily a running quarterback, we will do well against them, as our running defense is much better than our pass defense. In our last game, running back Marquis Waters, a highly regarded talent, only got 38 yards against us in the first half. He gained most of his 126 total game yards (and both of his touchdowns), in the 4th quarter against our third stringers.
Miramonte has won all of their games so far. How will they respond to a loss? And they have won them all by large margins. How will they respond during a close game, or a game in which they fall behind?
I don’t know enough about Miramonte’s other weapons, but if Anderson is the leading rusher on the team, I think that they can be stopped. The question for Miramonte is: if Anderson gets stopped, can their other runners take up the slack?
Alhambra has lost a game already, to Healdsburg, and every game this year has been a battle, with the exception of last Fridays. We were behind by two touchdowns in one game, and came back to win. And last year practically every game was a close one, so Alhambra as a team has learned how to fight through adversity to win.
At this point I would favor Alhambra because-
1) They have more weapons- WR Trevor Davis, RB Jared Leaf, TE Rich Manuli, QB Jon Miller, QB Adam Nesheim; vs QB Ross Anderson of Miramonte.
2) They’ve been through more adversity, so they play well in close games.
Of course, that’s just my opinion after these first 5 games. It’s also a suspect and not a very educated opinion as I don’t know that much about Miramonte, so I could certainly be wrong.
But I do know this, if both Miramonte and Alhambra go undefeated this season, when they meet up at Miramonte at the end of the season it’s gonna be a helluva great game!
Congratulations to Miramonte and Coach Wade for their great start, and we’ll see you guys on November 12th.
October 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 pm
You’re trying to say that kick returns and punt returns counted into your stats about Davis being a fabulous RECEIVER? If that’s your measuring stick, there are MANY other players above Davis. You imply that because he is double and triple teamed (double I can believe, but triple? c’mon….) that therefore he is a great receiver?
You go on and on about how Alhambra can do no wrong, posting about YV being stupid letting Neshim go (as if this is the NFL and contract talks broke down), you talk about when you saw him playing in 7-7 last year that you had a tingly feeling go up your leg, you got your wish, now he’s a Bulldog. Speaking of YV, they just about beat Alhambra, it was the smallest win margin for the Dogs so far, and they have a soph QB with NO var experience.
I’m not saying that both Davis and Neshim aren’t excellent athletes, clearly they both are.
This isn’t about them, it’s about you. I’m tired of you being such a homer about all things Alhambra.
October 4th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
To Bullsomething Forever #97,
What’s wrong with being a homer for your team? We’re all homers, including you.
The YV situation with Nesheim was unfortunate, and I was only defending Nesheim agains critisizm on the blog. At that time, I had heard that he would probably stay at YV, but that he might go to Deer Valley. I had absolutely no idea that he would end up at Alhambra.
YV played a very good game against us, their new quarterback has a lot of potential and I hope that they do well this year.
What’s wrong with saying something nice about your players? We all do it, and I enjoy reading and learning about the other players on the other teams.
In case you hadn’t noticed, punt returners are almost always receivers, and kick off returners are often receivers. I posted Davis’ total stats, those stats are not my opinion, they are what he has actually done. If you have better stats for “MANY other players above Davis”, please post them so we all could learn about those other players.
That tingly feeling up your leg last night was the hot coffee you spilled, you need to switch to decaf. Try to relax, BCF, high school football is supposed to be fun. If you don’t like my posts, then don’t read them.
October 4th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
So should the YV receiver that scored two defensive touchdowns against Alhambra while playing linebacker be given credit for those TD’s as a receiver because he lines up there on offense? No.
That seems to be what you’re saying when you give credit to Davis as a receiver for punt and kickoff returns. Again, it is clear that Davis is a talented athlete, I’m not questioning that, but for you to state that he averages 28 yards per touch is misleading, likely true, but purposely misleading. Often, kickoff and punt returns are for at least that distance in high school, and with Davis’s speed I’m sure he gets more than 28 per return often. Adding that to his yards per catch as a true receiver that caught a ball skews your whole argument in your favor, but you know that already, that’s why you slipped in “per touch” rather than “per catch”, which is only one measure of a receiver.
Davis could very well be a top tier receiver, but your effort to “cook the books” to try to prove it is what is annoying.
If the FG kicker is also the RB, is it fair to say that the RB is the leading scorer on the team if he has never been in the end zone? I don’t think so, the FG kicker is the leading scorer, no matter if it is the same kid. I would GUESS that Davis’s stats without the punt and kickoff returns don’t look nearly as impressive, which is why you didn’t state those.
There is nothing wrong with saying nice things about players, I wish that would happen more often on this board. I have not said anything negative about a player, nor will I.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
BCF says- “So should the YV receiver that scored two defensive touchdowns against Alhambra while playing linebacker be given credit for those TD’s as a receiver because he lines up there on offense? No.”
I say yes. I very definitely think that he should, not solely as a receiver, but in addition to what he did as a receiver. I’m fine with that, it’s just another way to quantify how well a player does for his team.
Grant Jones was the receiver that you mentioned, and he had a phenomenal game that night and almost beat us by all by himself. He scored all of YV’s touchdowns. He recovered a bad Alhambra snap that went over the punter’s head and ran it in 35 yards for a touchdown, he took the ball right out of our QB’s hands in the backfield and ran it in 50 yards for a TD, and also caught a 50 yard TD pass. Wow, very impressive!
Let me analyze Jones’ game in the same way as I analyzed Davis’ first 5 games.
Let’s say, for argument’s sake, that in that same Alhambra game Grant also had 4 additional receptions for 60 yards, and a punt return for 25 yards and a kickoff return for 35 yards.
That would give him nine touches for the game (1 take away for TD, 1 fumble recovery for TD, 5 receptions 1 TD, 1 kickoff return and 1 punt return) That would be 9 touches and 255 total yards gained, a 28.33 yards per touch figure. His touchdown per touch percentage would be 33% (3 TD’s/9 touches = 33%).
I don’t think that that is cooking the books at all. To me, those figures are just a different way to clearly point out that Grant Jones is a great player (D1 caliber, in my opinion).
Seeing these statistics of Jones’, I can only say “Well done, Grant Jones, well done”.
And Jones’ stats in that game also prove that Davis is no slouch either, as he has similar figures not for just one single game, but for five games. Jones’ one game estimate- 28.33 yards per touch and 33% TD per touch percentage vs Davis’ actual for five games- 27.83 and 29%.
If we happen to meet up at a game someday, BCF, you can tell me how good your guys are, and I’ll tell you how good my guys are, and then after the game we can have a beer together. Deal?
October 4th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
BDF- “I don’t think that that is cooking the books at all. To me, those figures are just a different way to clearly point out that Grant Jones is a great player” and also a valid means by which to show that Davis is an excellent PLAYER.
But the question was asked about receivers specifically, that’s where our opinions about what the stats show diverge.
I understand your points, they have been clearly expressed with forethought and respect. Thank you for that. It is a pleasure to watch kids excel, we are lucky to have so many right here at home to enjoy.
I’ll look for the guy wearing Alhambra gear from head to toe next time I’m at a game, then I’ll know it’s you and we’ll have that beer..
October 4th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
I will herewith retire the BCF nickname.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Retirement? So, it wasn’t BC FOREVER, just temporary BC?
Maybe instead of receiver, the questions should reference who is the best all purpose yardage athlete? There are some RBs who also return kicks (Atkinson).
October 5th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
To the blogger formerly known as BCF- Good luck to your team this year, and I’ll see you at the game (loser buys).
October 5th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Bullshit forever- You guys better get your house in order- All over the papers on the Freshman hazzing. If even 50 cents is true, it’s still not good pub. Ya think De La would allow that sheeetttt to happen? Think again. Not even on the radar scope. Need more coach and player respect control.
October 6th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Ho Mama- My house is fine. What is hazz? Some sort of new haircut? If you need a barber, I can recommend some good ones in Martinez. And they don’t do just haircuts, they also have other services. For example, if your feet hurt, they’ll wrap them in tape for you for exactly 5 cents (if you also get a haircut). For some reason, everyone thinks that this service costs 50 cents, but 50 cents is not true.
October 6th, 2010 at 5:50 am
Ho Mama you’re a moron. You think that stuff doesn’t happen at DLS? Just proves that you’re on the bandwagaon riding nuts. What happened game one when that RB got suspended for a half? It isn’t hazing but your acting like kids don’t get out of line there. Get off the DLS nutsack & cheer for your sorry ass high school. You didn’t go there you don’t coach there.