- East Bay Prep Corner
East Bay Football Poll — 10/4
By Jimmy Durkin
Monday, October 4th, 2010 at 5:18 pm in East Bay Football, East Bay Poll.
Here’s the latest East Bay football poll. Some very tough decisions to make for the voters after Nos. 2, 3, 4 and 6 lost last week.
| Team | Record | Points | Last week | Comment |
| 1. De La Salle (7) | 4-0 | 105 | 1 | Spartans open EBAL play by crushing Foothill 49-7. |
| 2. California | 4-0 | 98 | 5 | Grizzlies make jump after dominating Monte Vista 45-3. |
| t3. Concord | 4-1 | 87 | 7 | Minutemen prep for DVAL play by outlasting Heritage 38-34. |
| t3. Granada | 4-0 | 87 | 13 | Matadors make 10 spot leap after shutting out then No. 2 SRV. |
| 5. San Ramon Valley | 3-1 | 78 | 2 | Wolves offense scuffles in shutout loss to upstart Granada. |
| 6. Monte Vista | 2-2 | 64 | 4 | Mustangs get smothered in blowout defeat to Cal. |
| 7. Foothill | 3-1 | 63 | 6 | Falcons handed first loss in EBAL opener at De La Salle. |
| 8. Encinal | 3-1 | 55 | 8 | Jets rush for 405 yards, beat Piedmont in BSAL opener. |
| 9. McClymonds | 5-0 | 45 | t9 | Warriors stay unbeaten with road win over Salesian. |
| 10. Deer Valley | 4-1 | 42 | 3 | Wolverines’ inconsistencies finally catch up with them. |
| 11. Alhambra | 4-1 | 36 | t9 | Bulldogs open DFAL title defense by beating Las Lomas. |
| 12. Heritage | 4-1 | 32 | 11 | Late drive comes up short in loss to Concord. |
| 13. Pinole Valley | 4-0-1 | 22 | 12 | Spartans use miracle drive in final minute to beat Berkeley. |
| 14. Amador Valley | 3-1 | 13 | 14 | Dons easily handle Livermore to begin EBAL play with a win. |
| 15. Northgate | 5-0 | 6 | NR | Unbeaten Broncos make season-debut in poll. |
Also receiving votes: Miramonte (5-0, 4 points), James Logan (3-2, 2). Records are through Saturday. The East Bay poll is voted upon by the prep sports staff of the Bay Area News Group-East Bay.
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October 4th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
That looks pretty good Jimmy. I would have undefeated Granada ahead of 1-loss Concord. You could argue that Foothill’s loss to DLS was completely expected and will happen to each team that plays them, while the SRV shutout and MV blowout losses should drop them below the Falcons. Those 3 teams will get sorted out soon enough though as they all will be playing each other. Tough for Alhambra to drop 2 spots in a week where they dominated Las Lomas.
October 4th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
still don’t know how encinal is in the top 10. they suck. who’s putting in the votes for encinal and deer valley? foothill should be ahead mv. my opinion ratings.
1. de la salle
2. cal
3. granada
4. concord
5. mcclymonds
6. san ramon
7. foothill
8. heritage
9. deer valley
10. alhambra
11. miramonte
12. northgate
13. amador valley
14. pinole valley
15. encinal
October 4th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
I was a little surprised too seeing Alhambra drop a few notches, but then again Oregon leapfrogged Boise State the other day. Will matter the most come the postseason..
October 4th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
how is mira still not ranked?
October 4th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Jimmy, I see 2 errors in the points tally. You show Granada with 77 points to be tied with Concord who has 87 points? Should they both be 87? You also show SRV and MV both have 78 points, but instead of being tied, it shows SRV #5 and MV #6? Are they really tied or should MV’s point total be lower?
Thanks Prep Fan. Fixes have been made. — JD
October 4th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
1. DLS
2. Cal
3. Granada
4. SRV
5. Mack
6. Foothill
7. Concord
8. Monte Vista
9. Encinal
10. Heritage
11. Amador Valley
12. Alhambra
13. Freedom
14. Deer Valley
t15. Pinole Valley
t15. Logan
That’s what I posted I thought they would be the other night pending the outcome of Saturday games and both teams won. Not convinced that Concord is top 3 material, but who knows. Glad to see DV finally drop in the writers rankings, and agree that Foothill should be ahead of MV right now since getting blown out by DLS was expected by most. Good news with the EBAL teams is they all have to play each other.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
monte vista that high after getting blown out? i understand it was by cal hi, but am i missing something? it makes no sense that alhambrsa and pv drop in a week where they both had impressive wins.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
I agree with the Concord comments but the EBAL Season is shaping up to be a wild one – everyone’s got to bring it every week…
October 4th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
They would have stayed the same, but since Granada beat SRV the Mats had to move up therefore it dropped the two teams you mentioned.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I think that MV is capable of beating SRV and Granada if they can get things together. I will be interested to see what happens in the rankings if EBAL teams start cross-beating each other. Will some of the teams in other leagues move up above the EBAL teams just because they maintain better records in lesser leagues.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Concord has beat 2 ranked teams in Amador and Heritage< you could out them as low as 5, but really who has Mack and Foothill beat? I think CHS has proved they can play with anyone except for DLS.
October 4th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Games to watch for this week:
ACCAL: Berkeley @ Alameda- Huge game for both teams. Berkeley comes out of a tough loss to PV and will look to rebound against the Hornets. A lot of smack talk between the two sides going on since the summer, so should be interesting. Still think Berkeley wins this game in the 2nd half 28-14.
BVAL: Pitt @ DV- If Pitt has any hope of making the playoffs, it needs to start with a win on Friday against the Wolverines. Nobody could have foreseen Pitt down like this to start the season, but DV has not exactly been impressive against lesser competition than what the Pirates have faced. After getting blown out by Vacaville which included giving up over 600 yards of total offense, DV will look to reassert themselves as the top contender for the BVAL crown, but I am going to go with the upset here, Pitt beats DV 21-20.
DVAL: Northgate vs. College Park @DVC- DVAL opener for both teams who look to get that first win while league favorite Concord is off this week. Northgate has been impressive thus far in the season and look to take down the Falcons of CP who have struggled mightily as of late. I think this game will be closer than most predict and I like CP to take down Northgate 35-28.
EBAL Previews:
DLS @ AV- Many fans will remember last year’s game where AV became the first EBAL team in quite some time to be up on DLS at halftime. However, the Spartans came storming back an that game is often looked at as the turning point of their season last year. Gone are many of the key players from last year’s AV team, but Carson Ewanich returns and has been putting together a nice season for himself. They handled Livermore last week. DLS has been DLS and despite three starters sitting out last week due to injuries, took care of business against Foothill. DLS will roll 49-14.
Cal @ SRV- This has to be the East Bay GOTW imo. SRV looked to be on the rise with early victories and a talented team led by Cal-bound junior qb Zach Kline. In early interviews this year LB Kyle Egan said he felt that SRV was better than DLS and MV this year, and Kline said their team was ready to go to state and win it all this year. So maybe it was a little looking ahead on their part, but they were shutout and struggled to find any rhythm whatsoever. The defense did do a nice job on George Atkinson III outside of the back breaking 88 yard TD run that put Granada up three scores. I expect they will come out fired up. Cal on the other hand is coming off a blowout win over MV, and one I’m sure the players truly enjoyed. But they cannot think about it too long. Kravitz may be the best hire by any school in the offseason (head coach or coordinator) and his tutelage of Drew Reil has given the Grizzlies a very balanced attack. Their line play has been terrific as well. I think it will be a great game, but Cal wins 35-31.
Foothill @ Granada- For Falcons fans they will remember the painful loss of last year to the Mats. They now have to travel to Livermore and try and exact some revenge. Coming off a blowout loss to DLS, the defense played admirably, but the offense had nothing going except one long TD and long run near the end of the game. Granada on the other hand is riding the ultimate high at 4-0 and a huge win over SRV. Horn had two blocked punts that set up two of the scores and G. Atkinson had a long TD run. SRV did hold him in check except for the long one, so Foothill’s goal has to be to keep him in front of them. If he hits the secondary there is no one on any team in the EBAL this year that will catch him. I still believe he is not a physical runner, so as long as you keep him in containment you will be fine. Granada’s defense on the other hand played outstanding in holding Kline to under 130 yards passing and sacking him six times. Coach Silva said he believes they can play with any team, and now his team needs to prove they are for real and not the one league game wonder they were last year. Foothill wins in a slight surprise 31-21.
MV @ Livermore- The Cowboys played tough for a half last week against AV before their qb was tossed out of the game right before half and the AV defense keyed in star RB Damariay Drew. On just about any other team Drew would be drawing more attention from recruiters and the writers. Monte Vista is coming off a devastating loss to Cal. Questions abound right now for this team such as, when does Sullas return and who starts at qb? Both Lockie and Finnegan struggled last week and I expect both will get PT this week as well as Bergman tries to figure out who to start against DLS the following week. If the Cowboys qb was playing this game might be closer, but I expect the Mustangs to get back on track 35-7.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
one small correction, Livermore is at MV
October 4th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
R10, the Pitt-DV and CP-NG games are both next week. Both should be good games though.
October 4th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
no BSAL GOTW, Renegade?
October 4th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
40-24-1 after 4 weeks. Bhigh28 ahs13 pitt20 dv14 cal27 srv20 grnda24 foothill23 haywrd26 arroyo14 stmrys21 moreau20 campo21 acalnes14 fremont26 librty13 dls48 amdrvally6 stpats35 jfkrich13 jets48 swett12 miramnte31 doughtyval17 alhmbra27 dublin17
October 4th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
good call prep fan missed that when i was looking at calpreps.
Hey- I don’t see any particularly intriguing BSAL games this week, the best one might be Moreau vs. St. Mary’s but I expect Moreau to win.
October 4th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
10-04-10
Pittsburg is like a staggering price fighter that is trying to get it together…but i don’t see much hope this year….The Pirates first league game with Deer Valley is not going to be good…DV has more weapons and if they use them right which they will….The Pirates will loose….Heritage and Freedom both look to be able to handle Pittsburg….Pittsburg has to snap out of their tail spin…its possible they could go 1-9 or 2-8 this year…
October 4th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Just like last year, PV gets no love after beating B-Hi in dramatic fashion. This time the offense stepped up when they needed to pull off the win. Thanks for the courtesy votes anyway.
-Don’t sleep!
October 4th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Are there going to be any high school football stats posted this season? It would be nice to see the leading rusher, passer, etc. in each league.
October 5th, 2010 at 6:00 am
JB”DON” Says:
September 1st, 2010 at 10:12 am
Insider – “Arroyo’s being turned into Castlemont by their OAL coaching staff gettin all these transfers & tryin to steal future Pirates. They don’t wanna play for you Barnes! They wanna be champions, not a Don. 4-6, by feeding on the crippled.”
Those are some strong words from a school that steals Oakland players for years, 1st of all we do not have any transfers at Arroyo at this time so don’t let that be the reason we win games, 2nd your future Priates stay in my area and you guys come and steal them out of Arroyo an SLZ back yard. (ex your starting RB last year HAAL player of the year), 3rd Champions in the Haal means nothing to me I am all about getting kids to the next level how many went from that great 10-1 team last year for a school that scores are lowest in the league and state.
And for the record the OAL will grow in the Haal as long as I am in the league !!!
Don Pride !!!!
FA SHOW, The OAL is growing in the haal look at all the 0-5 teams in the haal. Mt.Eden,Castro Valley,and Arroyo. Just terrible football, spitting image od the OAL. San Leandro will run their league streak to 100.
Coach JB your right, your Don Pride is spreading.
P.S. – I just run over a racoon tonight at work. I thought heah that must be what it’s like to play for the Dons.
PIRATES ALL DAY!!!
October 5th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Shabawler, You guys can’t expect you move up in the rankings by beating a Berkeley team who’s only two wins have come against winless teams (Pitt and OHigh). But I do Pinole has a good team this year but you guys have to finish business in league and make some noise in the playoffs. Last year you guys got embarrassed in the playoffs and lossed to Alameda and EC so that Berkeley wins means nothing!
October 5th, 2010 at 9:29 am
renegades10, Mack at 5? Who have they beat? I understand they have the best player in the bay area but they barley got passed Salesian on saturday. I understand concord has been wining and I respect that but I honestly think they are over rated only because they don’t play any defense. They are going to run into a team in they playoffs who can stop the bombs they throw all game and score some points.
1. DLS
2. Cal
3. Concord
4. Granada
5. SRV
6. Monte Vista
7. Foothill
8. Heritage
9. Encinal
10. Alhambra
11. Mack
12. Deer Valley
13. Pinole Valley
14. Amador Valley
t15. Miramonte
t15. Logan
October 5th, 2010 at 9:49 am
Mack has the athleticism to matchup and beat all the teams I have them over. In a normal year such as last year, this Mack team would not be very high, but this year they do. They held Salesian to their lowest point total probably of the entire season. That is an explosive offense held to 14 points. Mack doesn’t have the best offense but enough of a ground and pound to go along with a physical defense to get the job done against most of the teams. Remember this is a down year in terms of talent level. Concord is a solid squad, but as you said they will run into a team that can play D, although D2 looks really weak this year except for Casa Grande and maybe Windsor and Pinole Valley so Concord should be there at the end. They may score their way to a NCS title, but need to get through league first.
October 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
if pitt dont beat ertiage,deer valley or freedom theyll possibly b 2-8. that hurts mack cuz no win n da oal carries much weight plus salesian plays bfl so dey wont have any impressive wins coming up.
October 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
I would agree that Sonoma County teams Casa and Windsor look good in Div 2, in the mix with good teams like Concord and Pinole Vly. I know my alma mater Healdsburg will definitely be road tested when they play at Windsor in a couple weeks, and have a league finale at Casa Grande, a team we haven’t beaten in several seasons..
October 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
No one has found a way to defend Concord’s offense, in fact according to Maxpreps Concord has the number 1 offense in the state, but because Concord is Div 2 and/or not in the EBAL, somehow this all gets pushed aside. With the exception of Skyline, everyone CHS has played is a play-oof team and 3 teams were in the Div 1 playoffs last year. CHS has earned their spot in the top 5.
October 5th, 2010 at 10:26 am
CHS is the #3 offense in the state, not #1, apologies
October 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Renegades10, If Salesian is so good then why arnt they in the Top 15? I actually like Mack but all I am saying is I don’t think they are in the Top 5 maybe 9 or 10 at the highest. I agree with what you are saying.
October 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
I agree with Concord haveing a good shot at being there in the end but they lucked out that Eureka and Cardinal Newman dropped to Div.3. Those two teams would give Concord some trouble
October 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
I agree that Concord deserves a top five spot. And looking at the remainder of their schedule they will probably stay there.
October 5th, 2010 at 11:37 am
mandown, you could make that argument about a lot of teams. who have alhambra & Encinal beat they deserve to be above mack? who has pinole beat that they deserve to be above amador? who has concord beat that they deserve to be above granada? who has miramonte beat that they even deserve to be ranked right now? Even who has Monte Vista beat that they deserve to be ranked? it could go on and on and on. just my opinion of where I feel Mack would be right now. That could change through the season if some other teams step up their play.
October 5th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Concord #3 & Northgate breaks in 1st time this year at #15 Nice show DVAL Ricky Lloyd (C) is the best quarterback around period. Total YDS 1,711 Comp% .667 a total of 22 TD’s and longest pass 93 yards!!! Cameron Stover RB/LB @ (NG) is on a roll with a total of 906 yds rushing with 13 TD”s one on a pick he ran back for a TD (kid’s great plays both ways very effectively) Rest up for league starting next week should be interesting.
October 5th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Wow cant believe Deer Valley is still on here and heritage went down a spot? Freedom should be receiving votes cause comparing the scores when DV and Freedom play CP, Freedom had no problem with CP and DV had problems, so that one error i see…. The games that i think that are going to determine their league are…
Dv vs HHS, Freedom Vs Heritage, Pittsburg vs Freedom, Heritage vs Pittsburg, Freedom vs Deer valley, DV vs Pittsburg vs DV
October 5th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Comparing scores with CP doesn’t show much for these 2 teams. Freedom had a 3 point lead over CP in the 4th quarter, and then scored 2 more TDs at the end. DV had a 7 point lead over CP in the 4th quarter, and held them off for a 7 point win. I don’t think either team “had no problem with CP” to the extent that Cal did when they played them. Cal had a 28 point lead 4 minutes into the game and “had no problem with CP”. Both Freedom and DV battled CP for 3 quarters and got the upper hand in the 4th quarter. Freedom and DV can differentiate themselves when they play each other this year.
October 5th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Encinal, Alhambra, and Monte Vista have been consistant over the past couple of years. Pinole and Miramonte are at the bottom of the barrell. After the top 12 it get really cloudy and you can make the same arguement about the teams ranked there. I think Granada could be in the 3 spot easy right now over Concord and I think they will if they can stop foothill this week. But the only problem with Mack is that I don’t see them beating any team ranked ahead of the except Alhambra.
October 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
How does it not show much?.. Its shows alot with any other teams, Comparing teams happens all the time every time and this poll has everything to do with it. i just believe they didn’t take a good look at this section
October 5th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Jimmy D, When will we see the East Bay stat leaders?
October 5th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Had Salesian’s coach called different plays, Mack would have lost. Who would attempt passing on 4th and inches, from the 5 yard?
Salesian’s safety snatched and solo tackled Mack’s RBs several times. Peters was covered very well throughout the game. I think he only had 3 catches.
Mack deserves to be ranked, but maybe not so high.
October 5th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
ManDown,
Stats will be in Thursday’s paper and should be up online either tomorrow or Thursday.
October 5th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
That’s exactly my point mandown, there are a ton of arguments for why teams should not be ranked where they are.
October 5th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
FIRST OF MACK HAS PLAY A VERY RESPECTABLE SCHEDULE… I know that the games were set up based upon their opponents records from last season. 4 out of 5 of Mack’s preseason games were against teams whom went well into the play offs last years.
Secondly, if you would have attended the Salesian game you would have seen the worst officiated game in high school history!!! The blatantly tried to cheat Mack out of the game… FYI measure of a true champion perseverance!!!
Lastly, player for player I’m not sure if there is a better team in the Bay (including De La) talent wise. Not bad for a school with less than 300 students!!!
FOX(and anybody else who don’t believe MACK if REAL) why don’t you attend the next Mack game and see them for yourself!!!
October 5th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
BVAL Expert, the point is that neither Freedom or Deer Valley blew CP out, as both of them won the game in the 4th quarter. To compare those games does not show much. Cal blew CP out in the 1st quarter. The only thing you can gain from these games is that Cal was a much better team than either Freedom or Deer Valley (as well as CP) in the preseason.
October 5th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Sport Guy, you must be kiddin” about Mack- Kudos to them for their record and results. Do you think they have the team speed and strengh of De La? Let’s see, weight lifting and pulling tires year around, blocking assingnments, audibals, character and staying focused, including the classroom so ya don’t get in trouble, you must be on another paralell universe. Give the Mackmen their credit, there’s a lot of schools with 300 boys who are winning year after year in NorCal.
That sounds like a sports woman , not a guy. I take sports women down to West Mack on Friday and Sat. nites- join me for the action-it’s a live and jive blog.
October 5th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Where are there 300 boys at Mack? They only have 247 kids at the whole school. Check out this story by Jimmy if you don’t believe it.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/high-school-sports/ci_16085213
October 6th, 2010 at 12:42 am
@Sport guy:
First, mack’s non-league schedule is decent, not great.
Second, I was at the Salesian game and “saw them for myself!” Mack went up 20-0 in the second quarter and then couldn’t move the ball against a D4 team they were supposed to roll. Salesian had 2 possessions inside the 10 in the 4th quarter and questionable play calling saved mack’s top 10 ranking.
Lastly, comparing mack to de la is crazy talk. Player for player or as a team, its not even close.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:32 am
pinole beat an undefeated rancho cotate team, beat d-! berk and blew out o-tech. bringing up the eureka blowout from laast year makes no sense, they blew everyone out in the playoffs. thiis is a completely different pinole team, they have the size and speed to match up with anyone in the area. feeny at the mike runs a high 4.4, plese show me anothe 6-4, 200 lbs middle linebacker in the area that runss 4.4.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Pvspartan wait til you play us we’ll beat you just like last year will stack the box and you’ll have no answers. Berkeley will get it tomorrow then its on. Berkeley we havent forgot all the trash talking you guys did at ccc passing tournament will see if you can pass with pads on. Hornets accal champs!
October 6th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Renegades10, Who are your top 10 players in the Bay this year based on production? Top players in each league?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Hornetfan, You guys have been a total let down this year to everyone. At this point I would expect you guys to be at least be 3-2. Layed an egg against SLZ, had your chances with Encinal, and get blew out the water against ODowd. How can you be making any predictions with the way your team is doing? Prove it on the field instead of boosting your team on a blog because you look like a fool that is only setting yourself up for a beat down from Berkeley and Pinole.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:01 am
To “Hornetfan”, not sure who you are, but you should calm down a little bit and stop talking as if you are a part of our group, especially before the game. Berkeley and Pinole are two strong, very respectable programs and there is no room to talk before the game, only play talks and as ManDown mentioned, the play needs to come up. Especially with some of the adversity we have faced, which most people on here are aware of. There is no time or place to talk. Also, you need to quit with the rumors and other nonsense. If you are really a fan, be a fan. If you are just trying to stir things up, have some respect and quit that. Good luck to all this week and NO MORE INJURIES for any of our kids in the EB. GO HORNETS.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Call the CO for the HornetFan cuz we got a ManDown. This ain’t the same one and done PV team. See me in D2
-Don’t sleep!
October 6th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Shabawler, You sure about that? Do you think you have what it takes to keep up with Concord?
October 6th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Where is KillerD and his predictions at? Where are you KillerD?
October 6th, 2010 at 10:22 am
I know that KillerD had to leave last week to take care of a family member. Haven’t seen them on the board since. Hope everything is OK.
October 6th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Hope all is well with Killer D. He was right way back in August that the Northgate Broncos would win at least five. 5-0 going into league Whoa who would of thought that.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:07 am
ManDown, based only on production? That’s tough, lot of kids with good stats, but then you would also have to compare the stats to the competition. I’ll have to think about that one, I’ll get back to you. Top players in each league:
ACCAL: Feeney-PV
BFL: Tagaloa-Salesian
BSAL: Not too familiar with the SPSV kids, so probably Jonathan Allen- Encinal
BVAL: Taito- DV
DFAL: Tough one with Marquis Waters- LL, Stover/Butler- Northgate, and Anderson- Miramonte
DVAL: Ricky Lloyd- Concord
EBAL: Blake Renaud/Dylan Wynn- DLS
Non-DLS: McGovern- EBAL
MVAL: Deandre Carter- Wash/ Miles Long- JL
OAL: Marcus Peters
Out of those the only no brainers were Tagaloa, Ricky Lloyd, and Peters. The DLS guys well, I obviously have some bias, but those two have been outstanding this season and don’t think there is anyone, including the new All-American who is playing better than those two in the EBAL right now. I put down a non DLS pick to be fair and hands down it’s McGovern right now. Even though the team has struggled he continues to do good things on both sides of the ball. The DFAL is probably the toughest one to pick, because Waters is talented, but just not much help around as I predicted at the beginning of the season, Stover/Butler have been on fire as well as Anderson. Take your pick there.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:12 am
How about top 2 or 3 players in each league might be better. I like your list, I am trying to figure this out myself.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Hornetfan, you need to back up Coach Kemp is right if you’re a true fan then you would stop all this yapping ! As for B-High there was no trash talking between us , as a coaching staff we share a mutual respect. The only trash Talking was between one of our coaches and a former Bhigh coach, which I personnally don’t condone. This sets a bad example for the the kids and takes away from the game. Your comments are your comments just don’t loop the real Hornets in them.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:41 am
berk 35, alameda 7. believe me weve seen 8 guys in the box with better talent than what alameda has the whole year and have still run the ball pretty good.
October 6th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
island02 kemp you guys sound like little scared biotches who know your bout to be blownout! remember you lose to hercules no playoffs. only if newark would have made those extra points & de anza had a pulse were talkin 0-5. now its the ruckman show as it should since he came to all the camps, passing league other summer workouts unlike other so called leaders.
October 6th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
What other so called leaders are you referring too? Just curious because you seem to know alot about alameda ; but , hide behind a blog , so who’s the biotch now?
October 6th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
island02 you are a coach who has never won anything. no league titles no playoff wins ncs title yeah right not with rochlin n kemp calling that weak offense. after the next 2 games you’ll be 2-5. i’m referring to the so called leaders who missed camps,passing league games & summer workouts do you know someone who fits that description? you play your town rivals who are a smaller school with less players & can’t manage anything more the 1 td.
October 6th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Hold up Sports Fan, I do believe Mack is for real, just not as real as a Top 10 ranking. And I was at the game and saw Salesian’s safety (Malic) SNATCH Mack’s RB all day. Salesian’s corners did well on Peters, who I agree is one of the top athletes in the league. Salesian’s Prier ran the ball well against Mack, 100+ yards.
I was also at the game to see Malic and Prier lined up in the backfield, but the Salesian coach went with a pass?? With 1st and goal, the coach passed instead of running??? Different play call in the end, different result. Then, Mack would be 15th????
October 6th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
wow, 617lemon is sour and the island02 is sinking. dont worry you guys, all the games will be played. at this point everyone in the accal is playing for second place, i can gurantee you pinole will look past noone this year.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I googled Mack and there attendance is 766. So who-evere said they only have 247 better check out the real meal deal. That means at least 247 boys in the school, I would suspect more. It doesn’t matter about the other school that was on campus-they closed.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Yo Mama,
The 247 number is accurate. That was given to me directly by the Oakland Unified School District and I’ll believe their numbers a lot more than what you might find in a google search.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
De La vs. Amador on the road- any predications? The Dons gave DLS all they could handle until they woke up in the second half. The QB is gone though. I think there won’t be any letdown this time and with this year’s team.
October 6th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Think DLS wins 49-14 Big Joe.
ManDown, screwed up the two Northgate boys are in the DVAL so for the DFAL between Anderson and Waters, maybe Leaf at Alhambra but he’s behind those two for now.
October 6th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Best Player in DFAL is “hands down” Jared Leaf RB for Alhambra. He has only played in 3.5 of Alhambra’s 5 games due to injury. With only 73 carries, Leaf has 611 yards, a 8.4 yard per carry avg. and 9TD’s. Just look at the DFAL rushing leader stats posted on this website. If Jared Leaf actually played in all 5 of Alhambra’s games, he would be blowing away the other DFAL rushers. He is a man amongst boys!
October 6th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
C-Dog, I give a thumbs up to your “hands down” for Jared Leaf as best player in the DFAL. He’s a slab of granite running through a balsa wood forest.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
The 766 is from the Oakland Unified school district and Mack website. Do you mean 247 boys or 247 toal attendance. 247 attendance means 60 students per class- 9 thru 12. Hard to beleive they are that low.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Wow, I didn’t know that Alameda HS cut football players…because it sure sounds like that Lemon dude got cut from something? Why else would he be so sour with a high school’s football program?
October 6th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
He is not hands down the best player, both those two are very, very good.
October 6th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
According to Mack website, there are 2 schools on the Mack Campus- appx. enrollment for each school is 200, so 400 students total.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Funny when you try to do something positive out here in the community and simply talk about respecting the game and your opponent and you get folks trying to say you sound like a “biotch”. LOL, got a dude behind an anonymous screen name talking about personal business of high school KIDS non-stop and bringing others’ names up constantly, what exactly is that?? 617Lemon where do you install an offense aside from your Madden franchise on Xbox? I’d be interested to come watch a game. Solid Encinal fans should calm down the guy actin’ a troll, cause they would be a lot more respectable with all their doing without some guy acting a fool online constantly getting into kids’ business. FOCUS ON WHAT YOU’RE DOIN POSITIVE. Lemon I wanna see your play talk on the field, but is that even possible cause do you even coach a varsity position anywhere? Impossible to tell hiding behind a screen name. GOD BLESS.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
YoMama,
Not anymore. It’s actually back down to just one school and is back officially under the name McClymonds. It had been separated into EXCEL and BEST, but BEST closed and so as just one school it’s now back officially as just one school, McClymonds.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/education/2010/08/25/mack-is-back/
The total enrollment is 247. That I’m certain of. Most information on the web about the school is pretty outdated, including what you might find on their web site. This is straight from the district and accurate.
October 6th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
I, like you, was easily confused trying to search around the Internet to find out exactly what the enrollment was. I had heard about it dwindling to a significantly low number and had been told by coach Curtis McCauley it was around 200. That’s why I went to the district to get confirmation. They pulled up the report and two weeks into the school year, the total enrollment (boys and girls) is 247. Pretty shocking for a public school and I understand it’s hard to believe, but it is true.
October 6th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Renegades 10, sorry, but the stats speak for themselves. 3.5 games, more yards per carry and almost as many yards as the leading rusher. Figure it out….
October 6th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
QB, so by your logic stats determine who the better player is. So last year Bryce McGovern, who had the most receiving yards in the ENTIRE country, was the best WR in the ENTIRE country? You figure that out. Leaf is a fine player, but I wouldn’t say he is the best player “hands down” as I believe was quoted above and as to what my post was referring to. Both Waters and Anderson are very good as well and I feel right now they may be better especially because Waters is doing a lot without much help whatsoever. “Hands down” means there is no doubt, no question that he is the best and that is simply not the case.
October 7th, 2010 at 12:31 am
Waters, Anderson and Leaf all deserve thumbs up. But both Waters and Leaf play defense, I don’t know about Anderson, although QB’s normally don’t.
Waters impressed me as a safety when Las Lomas played Alhambra, he was in on a lot of tackles. Leaf anchors the Alhambra defense at center linebacker (first team all-league last year), and is the hardest hitter on the team.
So at this point I would favor Leaf and Waters over Anderson, because of their importance and contributions to their teams on both sides of the ball. If Anderson played defense also, then I would rate them all even so far. It’s still early in the season, though.
October 7th, 2010 at 1:45 am
@ YO MAMA Sounds like you need some pom poms to cheer for De La Salle. With all do respect to De La, Discipline, is their only true factor over Mack! Athletes? C’mon Son! I would take the MACK kids all day. Plus, you try being 16 or 17 walking thru West Oakland EVERYDAY, then lets see how much discipline and Focus you have. Also, why are you so concerned with the enrollment? Shocking, huh? I know you or yo woman couldn’t produce $1 out of 247 people or attempt to coach em!!! Go back to your desk clown, you probably never been to West Mack!
@ FOX, Peters didn’t get shut down 2 catches 66 yards… while being tripled teamed? QB 6-10 120 yards 3tds? Marshall 150 rushing? Ur delusional!!! Malic and Prier must be your relatives? The kid only had 100 yards which came mostly on 1 run, also did he score? Oh yeh he got ran down…
@ FAN, Man Down & East Bay Macks non-league schedule is DECENT? WOW!!! C’mon Son! Lets talk about some of the teams ranked ahead of MACK… Encinial, Foothill and San Ramon? Tough Schedules, huh?
Most disappointing thing is that you have group of 23 young men whom have exceeded early expectations and adults refuse to give credit where credit is due? Some of the MACK player don’t know where their next meal is coming from. If these student-athletes where @ De La Salle and could just focus on Books and Sports… PLEASE!!!
October 7th, 2010 at 6:42 am
Renegades, I am not saying that Waters and Anderson are not top notch players. Anyone who watched the Las Lomas Alhambra game knows that Waters is an exceptional player, and I have so much respect for his talent and ability. He definitely is a one-man team, tough for him to do it all by himself. I have not seen Anderson in action, but look forward to it. Have you seen Leaf play?
October 7th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Sports Guy, Their next meal can come from the Oakland Rescue Mission which I volunteer twice a month. I worked in West Mack for 10 years. I also had a few friends teach at the old McClymonds, they left for Berkeley schools, no district support along with all the other problems that happen in a poor area. I knew the entire Mack relay team running against them in high school in the early ’70′s. Mack is an instition in Oakland, always has been. Great sports atheletes, Frank Robinson and Vada Pinson who I have met and conversed with on several occasions. You’re right, I didn’t grow up in West Oakland and it’s not my fault that my woman didn’t have a baby-daddy and gets pregant as an early teen. It’s not my fault some kids and their parent can’t pull up their boot-straps and get out- many have. If you’re from there, then go back and enter to learn, then leave to serve-did you do that?
As far as De La, get real- they are on a different planet, better coached, better athletes, faster, stronger, smarter and more dedicated. The last I read Mack will be lucky to grad a high percentage of seniors. With that said, the money being poured into Excel should get some results, that is if the student atheletes want to committ- it’s school and sports to get out- not just sports. I am sure many will rise to the top. Opportunity knocks in many forms. Who will be the first to cast the first stone- not you Sports Guy. God Bless and pony up to help those kids in need.
October 7th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Wow- I don’t think we’ll hear from Sports Guy again- if he replies to what I just read, he’s the one who’s delusional. Hope Mack wins the OAL. As far as a state game offer, don’t count on it.
October 7th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Sports fan, I didn’t say Peters was shut down. The SOPHOMORE corner did a good job on him. The other corner, a junior held his own. Tripled team my ass. Man to man, and your D1 prospect only got 2 catches?? I guess we weren’t at the same game especially if you think Prier got his yards on one play??? Wow. Mack is good and I wish them all the luck. To me, they aren’t Top 10!!!! Your dumb ass even compared them to DeLa??? Mack is so good, but they barely won by 1 touchdown? They didn’t even score after halftime!! Shouldn’t they have blown Salesian out??? I’m done responding to you bcuz really YOU DON’T MATTER!
October 8th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Big Joe think again… Yo mama, your ignorance makes me wanna slap your mama. How dare you!!! When the last time a child choose his parents? At this point making statements which you made…WOW!!! Showing your true colors now! Your a racist prick. Anybody whom name drops and brown noses the next man is a LOSER.
Fox, 2 catches and Mack only threw the ball 10 times… Plus, Peters doesn’t have to catch a ball the rest of the season and he going to still be the top player in the Bay! You ask De La if they will take him? Punk!!!
FYI… I do live and work in this community. Giving back is what I do so it really disappointing to here you talk like that about my youth. WOW!!! Its not 1960 queers… All of you guys are butt buddies!!!
October 8th, 2010 at 9:15 am
FACT: Mack threw 12 times. Peters caught 2. Could have caught more if the DB didn’t knock it away from him–twice in the end zone. Maybe you were in the restroom on those plays. Knowing how great Peters is, the young guys were not intimidated and did a good job against him.
I’ll say it again Mack is GOOD!! REAL GOOD! ATHLETIC! Just not Top 10! And Salesian played them VERY WELL! The outcome could have been different with different play calling in the 4th. Salesian only has TWO players on their entire defense who played varsity last year!! Big Freddie is THE ONLY returning O-line player. Not bad against a highly ranked Mack team.
Serioulsy, if they only beat Salesian by 6, do you really think they could hang with DeLa??
I’ll be wishing Mack the best! I hope they win league. Who knows, maybe they’ll actually be in my Top 10 before the season is over. FOR NOW, THEY ARE NOT TOP 10 in my eyes!!!! Period!
October 8th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Peters is ONE OF THE TOP players in the bay! Not THE TOP!
October 8th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Who is Peters getting looks from?
October 8th, 2010 at 11:40 am
According to Rivals.com
College Choices
School Interest Offer Visit
Arizona Medium None
Arizona State Medium None
Nevada Medium Offered None
Oregon Medium Offered None
Sacramento St Medium Offered None
San Diego State Medium Offered None
San Jose State Medium Offered None
UCLA Medium None
UNLV Medium Offered None
Utah Medium Offered None
Washington Medium Offered None
Washington State Medium Offered None
October 8th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Anybody who calls somebody a “racist prick” and two paragraphs later says “Its not 1960 queers… All of you guys are butt buddies” loses any credibility and should probably lose his commenting privileges…
October 8th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Peters is one of the top players in the bay, but for whatever reason people seem to think it is as a WR. He is getting recruited as a DB which is where he truly shines.