- East Bay Prep Corner
East Bay Football Poll – 10/26
By Ben Enos
Tuesday, October 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm in East Bay Football, East Bay Poll.
Here’s the latest East Bay football poll. Enjoy.
| Team | Record | Points | Last week | Comment |
| 1. De La Salle (7) | 7-0 | 105 | 1 | Defense allows just 122 yards in 28-0 win over San Ramon Valley |
| 2. California | 7-0 | 98 | 2 | Grizzlies averaging 441 yards per game through seven games |
| 3. Concord | 6-1 | 91 | 3 | Big three-game stretch starts this week against College Park |
| 4. Foothill | 5-2 | 77 | 6 | Colin Kacinski runs for three touchdowns in win over Livermore |
| t5. Granada | 5-2 | 75 | 4 | Matadors get set to welcome De La Salle to town this week |
| t5. San Ramon Valley | 4-3 | 75 | 5 | Even in loss, defense delivers gritty effort against De La Salle |
| 7. Encinal | 5-1 | 64 | 7 | Mix-up left Jets idle last week; St. Mary’s up next |
| 8. Monte Vista | 4-3 | 55 | 8 | Jeff Lockie becomes EBAL’s leading passer in win over Amador |
| 9. McClymonds | 7-0 | 52 | 9 | Warriors earn rainy-day win over ’09 Silver Bowl champ Fremont |
| 10. Pinole Valley | 6-0-1 | 41 | 11 | Spartans spend bye week preparing for run at ACCAL title |
| 11. Northgate | 7-0 | 37 | 12 | Broncos welcome new lights this week against Ygnacio Valley |
| 12. James Logan | 5-2 | 28 | 13 | Miles Long runs for 226 yards, three TDs in win over Irvington |
| 13. Bishop O’Dowd | 6-1 | 16 | t15 | Dragons have outscored three HAAL opponents 158-14 |
| 14. Alhambra | 5-2 | 10 | 14 | Bulldogs try to stay in DFAL title hunt Friday against Campolindo |
| 15. Miramonte | 7-1 | 8 | NR | Mats enter bye week with 34-7 romp over rival Campolindo |
Also receiving votes: Heritage (5-2, 5 points), Pittsburg (2-5, 3). Records are through Saturday. The East Bay poll is voted upon by the prep sports staff of the Bay Area News Group-East Bay.
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October 26th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
How did Heritage drop out? They have the win over Logan who is 12… That one makes no sense to me. Pitt is playing much better right now as evidenced over the last two weeks. Heritage should not have been penalized as much as it seems like they have been and should be in there at 12 at least. BOD has yet to face any quality opponent including the one they lost to in SI. Don’t deserve to be top 15 until they do something in playoffs. I would go:
1. DLS
2. Cal
3. Concord
t4. Foothill
t4. Granada
t4. SRV
7. MV
8. Encinal
9. Mack
10. Pinole
11. Heritage
12. Logan
13. Northgate
14. Miramonte
15. Alhambra
At 2-5 despite the wins coming against DV and Heritage can’t put Pitt in there yet, not until they get past Freedom at least.
Games to Watch For This Week
ACCAL: El Cerrito@Berkeley
Ben’s alma mater comes into this game tied with Pinole for the top spot in the league while Berkeley is a game behind after their loss to PV a few weeks ago. The problem is the Gauchos best win to date was an 18-7 win over Hercules. Berkeley just has too much for them and wins it 35-14.
BSAL: Encinal@St. Mary’s
The Panthers are currently in a tie for 2nd place with SPSV, who they lost to a few weeks ago. Still, nothing would be sweeter for them than upending the Jets who are trying to position themselves with a good seed for the tough NCS D3 playoffs, where the winner will have a pretty good shot at heading to the bowl game down South. This game was entertaining last year, and St. Mary’s has certainly surprised me a little this year as I thought they would be more down. Still, the horses they had last year in DBR and Lovett are gone and I don’t see them being able to contain the multi-pronged rushing attack of Encinal. Jets win 42-14.
BVAL: Heritage@Freedom
With four teams tied for 2nd place the BVAL race is far from settled. Both teams are coming off of heartbreaking losses to Pitt and DV respectively, leaving each to wonder what might have been. Still, the race is far from over as Pitt still needs to show some consistency and could slip up, including in their game next week with Freedom. The Falcons should not be looking ahead though as Heritage, despite showing some vulnerabilities over the last two weeks boasts a very good rushing attack. Freedom has certainly had quite the turnaround from last year, although some of that could be attributed to a down BVAL. Still this game could mean a lot for playoff seeding and the way it’s looking right now a win might save someone from having to make an early trip either to DLS or Cal. I think it will be a low scoring affair with Heritage bouncing back with a 21-7 win.
DFAL:LL@Dougherty Valley
The DFAL has been the second most entertaining league so far besides the EBAL. All teams have at least one league loss with four teams tied at the top with 1 loss each. The Knights and Wildcats are two of those teams. LL has certainly rebounded from their 1-4 start to the season. Marquis Waters has been a man possessed recently and the Wildcats defense will have their hands full. Meanwhile the upstart Wildcats have won two games in league this year, the only two games they have ever won in league. Bob Spain has done a great job building up the young program and their future looks bright, but I think Waters will continue to roll this week and be the difference in a 21-14 victory for the Knights.
DVAL: YV@Northgate
The Broncos are sitting at 7-0 for the first time in a long time. Tied with Concord atop the standings things are looking good. They host the Warriors who have been a mixed bag this year. Coming off a sloppy and disappointing loss to College Park, the Warriors will look to play the part of spoiler of Northgate’s hopes of a league title. The Broncos will be hosting Concord next week in a matchup everyone has been waiting for. But they cannot look ahead. The Broncos offense has been prolific this year, but their defense is showing some major holes especially over the last two weeks. They are coming off a last minute win over Clayton Valley, who is not the team they have been in the past. I am going to go with the upset here as I think YV stuns Northgate 24-21.
MVAL: American@Washington
Both of these teams are coming off of wins over Newark as Washington demolished them two weeks ago and had a bye last week, and American is coming off a close win over the Cougars. American has certainly produced another good year and they lost a close game to Logan only a few weeks ago. They are currently sitting at 4-4 and only need one more win to qualify for playoffs. They should be loose this week as they still have a game against perennial doormat MSJ in two weeks. Still I think Washington has too much in the end with a 42-21 win.
EBAL Previews:
DLS@Granada- The Mats are already qualified for playoffs so at this point they have nothing to lose. They are coming off a 35-14 loss to Cal. Still, they will get up to host DLS. The Spartans offense at times sputtered against SRV, but also showcased their defense in holding SRV to just 16 yards rushing. Still, they can’t afford to play a sloppy game this week. Making sure they take account of where Atkinson is at all times will be the top priority, but I think they will be up to the task. DLS wins 49-14.
AV@Cal- The Grizzlies have certainly been impressive and despite playing sloppy last week against Granada came away with the win by a comfortable 3 score margin. AV is just a really inexperienced team and it is showing as they haven’t won a game since the first league game against Livermore. I don’t expect that to change as Cal should roll 49-7.
SRV@Livermore- SRV will win, defense is very good and don’t think Livermore gets any points on the board this week. Wolves win 35-0.
MV@Foothill- This is the GOTW in my opinion. These two teams played an absolute thriller last year on national tv that the Falcons pulled out. Gone are the two stud qb’s, but I know MV is still bothered by the loss last year. It is going to be an interesting matchup watching MV’s run defense against the double wing, and MV’s offense vs a pretty stout Foothill defense. Both are tied at 2-2 and this battle most likely determines who finishes in third place this year behind Cal and DLS, although Foothill will host the Grizzlies next week. I will take the Falcons in this one, because I like their defense. Jury is still out on MV, and I just don’t think they get it done this week, but I think it will be another classic this week. 28-21 Foothill wins.
Big game this week over in the SJS. Folsom hosts undefeated Pleasant Grove in a matchup to determine who wins their league title. Folsom is Grant’s only signature win this year and should they lose to PG it could hurt their overall SOS even more. Calpreps has Folsom winning 28-27, but these two teams put up points like it’s nobody’s business. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the game cross the 100 total point threshold. I think Folsom wins in the end but it is a game to keep your eye on.
October 26th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
how is pitt recieving votes and not Berkeley? isnt berkely 5-3 with a victory over Pitt?
October 26th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
I would guess the rankings are based to a good extent how well the teams have been playing as of the last couple weeks.
October 26th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
American already earned one of the qualifications for N.C.S by beating Newark last friday they guarenteed at least a .500 record in their league, most likely will be 4 – 2 in league play. If American beats Washington they will clinch one qualification for overall record and record against division 2 teams.
October 26th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I feel logan is the best team in mval coach zuber has a real group of hard working kids. Ooh. Any suggestions on getting jim harbaugh to look @ miles long of logan hear he also has good grades it would be nice to see stanford with a real running games, long can make it happen pls help with good suggestions.
October 26th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Haha stanford has a real running game. Have you watched them at all? Not to mention he has pulled 3 of the top 20 RB’s in the country for the class of 2011. While it would be nice for Long to get into the school and be on the team, if he wants to get some PT I would highly recommend looking somewhere else. He will be behind a log jam of RB’s. They only have one senior RB this year (Stewart) and he doesn’t even get much PT. Their starter is a soph (Taylor) and he has another soph (Gaffney), a redshirt freshman (Amanam), and a true freshman (Wilkerson) all backing him up. And Harbaugh thinks that Wilkerson will be the best of all of them, he just needs to get some experience.
October 26th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Isn’t Long just a sophomore this year? He’s got plenty of time to impress the scouts.
October 26th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Didn’t know he was only a soph. Then yeah he has time. By the way the poster was talking about him and getting the coach to look at him I thought he was senior.
October 26th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
i dont understand why pittsburg and heritage are receiving votes.. there are better ebal teams they deserves votes despite looking at their record
October 26th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
6 EBAL teams in the top 8. I would be curious to see how Amador would do in other leagues. They played Concord tough. Livermore beat Dublin who took out Alhambra a week or two ago so who knows. But I’m fine with 6 teams in the top 8.
October 26th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
I don’t know why people get worked up about the rankings. They don’t really have any impact on the playoffs. For example, Monte Vista may or may not be the 8th best team in the East Bay, but if they don’t win one of their last three games (all of which are against teams “ranked” ahead of them) they won’t be going to the playoffs. What difference does it make if you’re ranked and an unranked San Leandro goes to the playoffs while you sit at home?
The playoffs in most divisions are going to be wild. Even with 16 spots, there are probably going to be teams left out.
D-I
Already qualified (8): De La Salle, California, Foothill, Granada, Deer Valley, Heritage, Logan, Berkeley
Sure to qualify (5): San Ramon Valley, Pittsburg, Freedom, San Leandro, Newark Memorial
On the bubble: Monte Vista (have to beat SRV, Granada or Foothill), College Park (have to beat Mt. Diablo plus Clayton Valley or Concord)
Unlikely to qualify: Amador Valley (have to win 2 of Cal, SRV and Foothill), Castro Valley (have to beat Hayward or O’Dowd)
Outlook: Any team that qualifies will get in. I think College Park gets in, not so sure about Monte Vista…
D-II
Already qualified (7): Concord, Northgate, Windsor, Pinole Valley, Rancho Cotate, Casa Grande, Redwood
Sure to qualify (10): Washington, Las Lomas, Dougherty Valley, Clayton Valley, Maria Carrillo, Hayward, American, Arroyo, Alameda, San Lorenzo
On the bubble: Montgomery (have to beat Santa Rosa or Maria Carrillo), Tennyson (have to beat Castro Valley)
Outlook: There will be at least one qualified team left out – presumably Alameda, since they lost to San Lorenzo, who should be the team on the bubble with them. Both of them better pray Montgomery doesn’t qualify…
D-III
Already qualified (14): Marin Catholic, Cardinal Newman, Miramonte, Encinal, Alhambra, Eureka (at 4 wins, but only 8 games scheduled), O’Dowd, San Rafael, Acalanes, Campolindo, Moreau, Del Norte, El Cerrito, Kennedy (Fremont)
Sure to qualify (5): Analy, Novato, San Marin, Tamalpais, Hercules
On the bubble: Ygnacio Valley (have to beat Northgate, Clayton Valley or Concord), Petaluma (have to beat Sonoma)
Outlook: Several teams will be left out. If Ygnacio Valley and Petaluma qualify, it could be as many as 5. The top candidates to me are Kennedy and Petaluma (both will have losing records), El Cerrito (will also likely have a losing record), Hercules (will have lost to El Cerrito and be .500) and Del Norte (probably .500). Unknown is whether San Rafael, Marin Catholic or both will be designated conference champion and get to host games. Really not fair if San Rafael gets to avoid Marin Catholic and Novato and be declared a co-champion, and a perfect example of why the EBAL shouldn’t have anything short of round robin scheduling.
D-IV
Already qualified (11): Healdsburg, SPSV, Salesian, Middletown, Fortuna, Berean Christian, El Molino, Ft. Bragg, Kelseyville, Harker, Willits
Sure to qualify (4): Ferndale, St. Mary’s, St. Helena, Clear Lake
On the bubble: Valley Christian (have to beat Harker), Piedmont (have to beat Moreau), Lower Lake (have to beat Clear Lake)
Outlook: At least one of those bubble teams will qualify. My money’s on Valley Christian. Clear Lake probably needs to beat Lower Lake to make sure they’re not left out.
Predicted champions (right now): De La Salle, Concord, Cardinal Newman and SPSV (if Patrick’s healthy)
October 27th, 2010 at 12:13 am
I don’t think anyone on here gets that worked up or felt the rankings had any impact on the playoffs. In fact it is the opposite. They have nothing to do with the playoffs. It is just fun to try to rank all the teams as the season progresses. They usually do a final one after the playoffs, and of course that one doesn’t have an impact on the playoffs either.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:24 am
For D-ll I don’t see Montgomery having a good enough record and I don’t believe San Lorenzo will get in considering they can’t finish better than 3 – 4 in the HAAL. If Alameda losses to El Cerrito I don’t see them going into N.C.S with a lossing league record. Tennyson needs to beat Castro Valley , though I see Castro Valley pulling an upset. If CV does win Tennyson would be in a tough situation, Arroyo should beat the lancers later this season.
October 27th, 2010 at 3:38 am
Tennyson beat San Lorenzo 41-22 and San Lorenzo beat Alameda 28 to 21 so Tennyson would get in over both Alameda and San Lorenzo. Alameda also beat Newark. So the Lancers should be higher than both SLZ and alameda.
October 27th, 2010 at 8:24 am
hs fan……Marin Catholic will win league as solo champ b/c they play 1 more league game than San Rafael, it was designed for this purpose…..SR misses 2 games Novato and MC, MC only misses one league game w/SR so they would win league by 1/2 game and be the solo champ
October 27th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Great Division by Division Playoff breakdown HS coach:
D1: DLS vs. Cal high in a rematch for the NCS title after they play week 10. Nobody else comes close to these two squads this year. Foothill has done an amazing job of winning with very little talent, and is also the lucky recipient of a Down EBAL this year, except for DLS and Cal, even Granada not as good as they should be this season. SRV big questions marks too.
D2: Concord can beat anybody in this bracket if they can stop them on D. It has been an amazing run for the Minutemen and their stock will tumble going into the 2011 season as Lloyd departs for NCAA football. Watch out for Windsor too, they are deep and talented and when undefeated the Big Mo does help.
D3: Encinal or MC will easily be the top seed. The Jets have more speed than any team in the east bay they just don’t have the depth or major size except for a couple of players. But their speed is second-to-none across the board. They play at a different level than other teams. MC is very good too and sound. Bishop O’Dowd lost their only tough game of the year and the self-incineration of the HAAL makes them drop to a lower seed in playoffs, but the Dragons have talent. Miramonte is good and will be a Top 4 seed. I predict Jets win D3 this year.
D4: Before the season started I chose Healdsburg to meet St. Patricks in the championship game and nothing has changed my opinion. These two teams are significantly better than everybody else. St. Helena, Clear Lake and Lower Lake, only One of these teams should advance to the playoffs with a terribly weak schedule for each. I would take Piedmont or Valley Christian if both teams finish 4-6 or better with their strength of schedules, however.
October 27th, 2010 at 9:26 am
d1 – i agree i dont seen anyone but cal and DLS playing in finals…but i wouldn’t sleep on pitt, they tend to do the same thing every year. struggle at the beginning, get healthy, get better, fix mistakes, then make a run in the playoffs. obviously cant count MV to make a run with all the talent they have, but cal high really took it to them so hard to think they can beat them next time.
d2 – concord the clear favorite. northgate looks good but we will find out before playoffs if they are capable of dethroning concord. if they can’t keep it close two weeks before playoffs dont see a sudden change in playoffs. windsor is looking good but really haven’t played much, the win over montgomery early in year doesn’t seem so good anymore and the 6-3 win over analy shows venerable, lots of close wins. hard for me to pick casa grande due to the loss to YV. pinole an interasting team with 2 solid wins in berkeley and rancho cotate. but schedule been real soft, and haven’t really dominated opponents considering who they have played (27-0 vs irv)…rancho cotate looks good as they have dominated opponents other than close loss to pinole…then u have washington who has played by far the toughest schedule of anyone, including the best played game vs cal high 2nd best team in east bay. but dont have a signature win. the domination of newark looks ok, but need to do the same thing vs american..and then beat logan before they are a contender. if they beat logan i would slide them into the #2 or #3 slot for d2..wouldnt count out los lomas they have made a run before, but need to win out to prove they are worthy.
d3 – cardinal newman good but i think too much hype considering how bad they were beat in losses and no good wins…MC struggled with berkeley and los lomas so not sure how great they are…miramonte lost to los lomas, but again well coached team and tough out…encinal has the speed, but like every year where is the big win?…alhambra lost to dublin enough said…to be honest looking at this d3 is getting way too much respect in comparision to d2. i dont think d3 is stronger than d2 at the top no matter what cal preps says. but i do believe they have more depth, since there isn’t one team that jumps out at you…when your #5 team loses by 2 TD’s to the #19 ranked team in d2 i think that tells u something..i think odowd is a wildcard and would not be surprised to see them in the finals…beat alameda by a heck of a lot mroe than encinal did.
d4 – healdsburg or st pats no doubt
October 27th, 2010 at 10:21 am
D1: DLS will win it yet again without a doubt. DLS is very stronger this year than last year and the closest team on DLS level is Cal. Cal is very good this year but they don’t have the team speed DLS has. Pitt will be very dangerious in the playoffs and I can see them making another deep run despite the horrible start. Look for SRV, Heritage and Monte Vista to make some noise come playoff time and try to get in the championship game.
DLS vs Cal
D2: Concord has a great offense but what about the defense? If they plaed any defense there would be no doubt in my mind about them winning it all but just for that reason it could open the door for other talented teams to take it away from them. A team like Pinole Valley can match up well against them. They will play strong defense and pound the ball down there throats if they don’t get that fixed. Northgate is having a very good year but I don’t know just how good they are. I guess we will have to wait and see. Hayward and Rancho Cotate will make things tough in this division as well.
Concord vs Pinole Valley
D3: Marin is very deep with talent and lots of returners, they are the team to beat. They are big, tough, and very well coached. After Marin I see Encinal as the number two. Encinal has speed in all positions and there isn’t much of a drop off this year from last years team. A very well coached team that plays fast. After Encinal it gets even more exciting Cardnial Newman, Eureka, Miramonte, and ODowd all are very good and can be in the same seat as Marin and Encinal. Anyone of those teams can grab the trophy this year but I predict a rematch from last year championship game.
Marin vs Encinal
D4: SPSV is the best team in this division. A very well coached team with speed. I don’t see anyone really challenging them for it but Healdsburg or Salesian. Salesian has a very good offense and SPSV just barley got past them this year for there first win. Forfuna and St. Mary’s might make some noise but they’re not continders in my opinion I predict a game one rematch!
SPSV vs Salesian
October 27th, 2010 at 10:51 am
If Pitt is seeded opposite DLS, they will meet them in the finals, again. Something happened to them after the first five weeks of the season.
October 27th, 2010 at 11:20 am
“something happened to them after the first five weeks.” Yeah they started playing BVAL teams
October 27th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Yeah, what happened to Pitt, is there schedule got easier, it is amazing how you win when you drop in class, heck Sam Spear would tell you that as well!
October 27th, 2010 at 11:58 am
Panther4 and Wizard,
If that’s the case, then any league they play in, besides the EBAL, would be a drop in class.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
They beat Deer Valley worse than Vacaville. It’s not a matter of league play, it’s a matter of them improving substantially.
By the way, what gripe do you have against BVAL teams? Besides the fact that they can stand up to any league in the Bay Area, excepting the EBAL.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
I can’t see the BVAL standing up to the WCAL either. But I agree that beyond the WCAL and EBAL, the BVAL can play with any other league in the Bay Area.
Pitt has definitely improved the past two weeks, but Deer Valley has been skating on thin ice all year long. They almost lost to both Washington and College Park, and could have easily been in a deep funk like Pitt was if that had happened.
October 27th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
I don’t have any gripes against the BVAL, I guess they are the 2nd best league out there but they are also the only other league besides the EBAL comprised of all D1 teams so they should be better than other leagues. I just think it says about the quality of the league when an 0-5 team comes in and basically clinches the league title with 2 wins.
October 27th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
sorry guys but only EBAL teams improve throughout the year…haaaaaaaa.
pitt basically did the same thing last year then ran all the way to the finals…
i remember all the cal high fans saying all year if they played washington again they would beat them..washington got lucky and now cal had a three headed monster at RB. then washington beats them worse in the playoffs.
proof early season games do not always tell where a team will be at the end of the year. other teams improve as well. pitt actually played MV very tough so to think they couldn’t beat them in the playoffs is crazy.
i would even say because of the committment level in the EBAL they are much much better early in the year than they are later in the year. they dominated non league last year, but then didn’t dominate in the playoffs.
saying that most teams could not go into the EBAL and be successful because of the strain week in week out that they go through…but like i said in a one game win or go home atmosphere the EBAL is very venerable in the playoffs (except DLS)
October 27th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
ManDown
Concord held Clayton Valley to less than 150 yards total offense, including like 50 yards given up at the end of the game and again I believe held a not very good Mt D team, I believe their defense could stand up to an OK Pinole offense. Again if they get through the next 3 weeks unscathed it will be tough to find a better team in D2
October 27th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The main reason why a bunch of teams couldn’t compete in the EBAL is because they have the 6th and 7th period weight lifting/practice class that is all year long. How do teams who don’t get those benefits compete with that? That is an extra one to two hours a day to get themselfs ready for a long 10 game season.
October 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
1-2 hours a day 9 months out of the year. IF grades become issues these classes become study halls all taken care of before that last bell rings at the end of school. If kids don’t want to work they could be given an F. Obviously schools over here are forfeiting games so the off-season becomes whatever the kids want it to be.
If our administrations gave that commitment to ALL athletics not just football think of how much better we could be. All administrations in the EBAL are committed to winning.
October 27th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
eastbay football, Who has Clayton Valley beat? Amador Valley gave them a good game and I think Pinole Valley and Rancho Cotate are better than them. In my opinion Concord hasent faced a team that plays good defense to go with a good offense. Pinole is a threat in D2 believe it or not but they have some good athletes to go along with size. Not saying that Concord wouldn’t be able to score on them but it will be a much tougher task and defending them will be tough also. I think Pinole and Concord could be a heck of a match-up
October 27th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Well said PERKIN. I don’t understand why schools that are not in the EBAL get that. If all schools in the Bay Area did that just think how much more competive it would be out here. Think of all the 5 or 4 star players we would have year in and year out. Wow.
October 27th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
HAAL Lineman – I do see Tennyson finishing ahead of San Lorenzo as I believe San Lorenzo is 0 – 4 in the HAAL already. Alameda is bye this week but they play Richmond and then El Cerrito to finish the regular season. Alameda will beat Richmond and if they beat El Cerrito they may they will finish with a 3 – 3 league record. Tennyson finishes with Castro Valley, Arroyo and San Leandro. I think Tennyson could beat CV but I also see the same with CV beating Tennyson in a close one. I Think Arroyo will beat Tennyson and San Leandro should have a victory against the lancers. assuming the Lancers beat Castro Valley they will have a 3 – 4 league record, Alameda might get seeded higher than Tennyson based on a 3 – 3 record compared to a 3 – 4 record pending what place they are in their respected leagues. If Alameda losses to El Cerrito they will of course have a 2 – 4 league record then Tennyson should be seeded higher than Alameda.
October 27th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
HAAL is way better than the ACCAL & the North bay D-2 teams like Redwood. Redwood would finish in 7th place in the HAAL. Only Mt.Eden would finish under Redwood. O’Dowd, Hayward, San Leandro, Castro Valley,Arroyo, Tennyson,& SLZ would rout Alameda, Hercules, Richmond, El Cerrito,De Anza. Berkeley & Pinole would lose to O’DOWD, SL, & Hayward. HAAL is WAY BETTER. The North bay D-2s are garbage. Mt.Diablo only lost by a few points to Redwood for crying out loud.
October 27th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
I don’t see Alameda being placed ahead of Tennyson. Tennyson smacked San Lorenzo & San Lorenzo defeated Alameda. How would Alameda be placed ahead of Tennyson? The HAAL is much better than the ACCAL.
October 27th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Have not seen much written about the Bishop O’Dowd Dragons. True the HAAL is way down and games with Hayward and San Leandro are looming.
But these Dragons remind me alot of the 97 team that flew under the radar entered the playoffs as a seventh seed and ran the table with a resounding 28-3 championship victory where one comment from a player was something like “they did not look like much on paper or film, but in person we were overmatched.” Much like the championship team, these Dragons are averaging over 40 points offensively and defensively are at the top of the leaderboard, but like the 97 team also, playing teams that were percieved as somewhat suspect in the HAAL.
Want to withold total judgement until the verdict is more clear in the next two games, but if the Dragons continue to build on what they are doing could they run the table again as a seventh seed?
October 28th, 2010 at 5:21 am
hey why is concord rated so high? who have they beat? and why are there so many ebal teams? only 3 teams are legit in ebal, the other should be in the top 15 just not the top 8. Come on i think Mack would not only give concord a run for its money but beat them, they got the best player in my eyes in the entire bay area EASILY, Anyone who watches HS football will agree with me that he is.
October 28th, 2010 at 5:29 am
It pisses me off because this kids marcus peters is BETTER then the “twins” from granada. * not hating just stating the obvious, but due to name Exposure, and are they play in kids like peters are left out, just ask aaron horne… who couldnt go to a D1 school because of his LAte SAT smh… oakland you need to come together as a community and make this work.. stop the violence at the games. Thats a FIRST.. join NCS And be part of REAL bay area football and stop letting politcis keep you out of a Fun playoff system, Clean it up. LOOK at the L.A schools and SAC schools They can do it.. so step your shit up
October 28th, 2010 at 5:30 am
** and AREA they play in…..
October 28th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Zo signed alot of scolarships out of Mack< if the kid is that good they will find him.
October 28th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Hey MVALFremont, Alameda is currently 2-2 in the ACCAL with Richmond and El Cerrito as the final two games. To go 2-4 in ACCAL we’d have to lose both the last two, not just the EC game. Win them both and we are 4-2 in league, not 3-3. Not speculating on what will happen with playoffs, just clearing up the actual league record situation.
October 28th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Coach Kemp,
How does EC look these days. They are always known for their passing threats but whats the word on them. How do you win that game?
October 28th, 2010 at 8:31 am
c sparks, you said it all in your post #34 and I agree with just about everything you said, but it pisses me off when someone gets on here and disses a player or players that’s gettin some recognition. I am sure the player you mentioned is a great player, but why bring down the twins to get your point across?
October 28th, 2010 at 8:33 am
I totally agree with you C. Sparks…
There are some good players in the Oakland Schools, they just dont get enough publicity as athletes in the EBAL or anyother league.. But then again there are some good players that have came out of the Oakland Schools… So idk, it depends on who is good at the time (team wise) Because playing good as a team draws more attention to the indivdual players… And i dont think the other Atkinson brother plays football anymore, i think he is sticking to track and field. Its just one brother
October 28th, 2010 at 8:34 am
I dont like when people tend to overate players and teams
October 28th, 2010 at 9:44 am
tennyson san lorenzo alameda playoff teams!? these teams are shit! ncs needs to go back to 8 teams 16 is to much playoffs is for quality teams. kemper where would you guys be without de anza hercules n richmond? kemp why do you torture yourself cuz if you make the playoffs that means you’ll be a 14,15, or 16 seed that means you’ll play a good team on the road & you always lose when you play a good team. kemp who coaches rb on var for you guys? cuz island04-6 says he coaches jv only. kemp the only way you make it to the 2nd round of ncs is if you buy a ticket!
October 28th, 2010 at 9:48 am
I don’t like when people overate teams or players either, but it happens and whether or not they are overrated is an opinion. There are tons of D1 players in the OAL, somehow or another, they will stand out, just like Marcus Peters. Basically, we are all entitled to our opinions, and the ones that matter the most at this point are the recruiters who want to get our kids to the next level. But I did agree with C Spark on just about everything else he said.
October 28th, 2010 at 9:50 am
atkinson boys got speed but ive never seen them play physical like pops. there good athletes but i dont know if there great football players. track is there best bet.
October 28th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Nice one Lemon! I would not have expected anything less from you. I have been waiting patiently for your punches at Kemp, Island and the Hornets. I see you forgot to take punches at me. I would love to see the hornets get a 16th seed, which is very likely, and play Concord. They are a solid team who has dominated in the passing game. I have great respect for their team and coaches, but I believe we would match up well with them. I remember just last week that you and many others wrote off Alameda vs Hercules. They were horrible. If it weren’t for Alameda fumbling on the opening play, and then allowing Hercules to score in the final seconds of the game, it would have been a 44-3 game.
Time will tell. All the naysayers can keep talking and we will keep playing.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:04 am
olinecoach oh i mean kemp i said you would win last week cuz hercules aint no good kemp only beats the weak teams.oline you werent talking tough when you guys were playing b-high,pinole or encinal. i doubt you can guard ec’s recievers so saying you match up against concord you must be loaded of the lettuce! if alameda makes the playoffs expect more of the same one n done! time will tell alameda will be 4-6. time will also tell kemp can’t win in the playoffs!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:10 am
When is the official signing day or period for football? Just because the twins signed earlier doesn’t mean other great athletes are not going to get signed to good schools. Hopefully, he’s doing good in the classroom coupled with what he is doing on the field and we’ll be reading about him soon
October 28th, 2010 at 10:50 am
DII Playoffs:
Northgate
Windsor
Pinole Valley
Rancho Cottate
Concord
Casa Grande
Redwood
Hayward
Maria Carrillo
Dougherty Valley
Arroyo
Las Lomas
Clayton Valley
Washington
American
Tennyson
*I highly doubt SLZ, Montgomery, or Alameda will make playoffs.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:32 am
@Harry Callahan: the only way to win the game is playing hard and focusing on the job at hand. EC always has some players and Alameda-EC is pretty much always a good game. Should be again this year.
@lil lemon: right on bro. We all know you have negative love for Alameda and a “unique” focus on some of the assistant coaches on staff. You have made it pretty clear! Like I said, 1. not even trying to talk playoffs right now, it is being resilient through adversity and focusing on Richmond then EC, 2. the Alameda coaches you dog on here are assistant HS football coaches (including one who’s kid got put out for his senior year with a knee injury, ease up on him man), that is just random stuff. Also, Olinecoach is not me. I know under that sour lemonhead outside you got a sweet interior, show the love!
October 28th, 2010 at 11:52 am
yeah i went to the game last year. very exciting game i must say. went down to the last few minutes if i remember correctly. EC will try to score fast. you guys need to counter that.
October 28th, 2010 at 11:56 am
dude throw me a solid and try to give me my own posts man. lol.
October 28th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
D3 playoff bracket
1 Marin Catholic
2 Encinal
3 Miramonte
4 Cardinal Newman
5 Alhambra
6 Eureka
7 Bishop O’Dowd
8 Novato
9 Ygnacio Valley
10 Acalanes
11 Analy
12 San Rafel
13 Campolindo
14 Moreau Catholic
15 El Cerrito
16 Del Norte
October 28th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Here is my take.
Tennyson lose next 3 games. Finishing 4-6 No playoffs
American 1-1, but you never know w/MSJ rival.5-5 Bubble
Alameda wins next 2, 5-5 In playoffs. Only lost to top seeded playoff teams; BOD, Encinal, Pinole, and Berkeley. The exception was losing to San Lorenzo.
SL will go 1-2 and be done.
Clayton Valley – 3 of the 4 wins are vs teams with 1 win. horrible.
Dougherty Valley might be 5-5
October 28th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
will the cancelled game against albany have any factor in seedings and who Encinal plays?
October 28th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
DLS vs. Granada, a good test for De La defense to attempt to slow down one of EBAL’s premier backs.
Do both brothers play or just the running back at Granada? The last I heard both are going to Notre Dame on scholarships- track or football or both?
October 28th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Oh Lemon, I missed that point that you thought I was Kemp. 1. Kemp is a stand up guy who does not stand behind a username. 2. He always calls it like it is. 3. always shows respect for his opponent, fellow coaches, and kids who play the game. 4. His writing style is completely different than mine and if you had any smarts at all, you could tell the difference.
Me on the other hand, I am a trenchman who is willing to go to battle for my team, school and family. Just like any lineman in the game, willing to step in front of a freight train to protect the above. I teach my guys to do just the same. Talent and strength may win over technique and determination, but we do with what we got.
Good luck to all the teams in finishing strong this season. We will see what shakes out at the NCS meeting. If you have never been to one, it is always full of surprises. I am sure that Lemon has never been to one.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
They both play, but Josh primarily plays defense.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
YoMama, the cabcled game will effect the playoff seedings minimally, but as others may have mentioned, it could effect going to state if Encinal wins NCS.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
american will be in the playoffs…they will beat kennedy, irvington, and MSJ and they already beat newark…so that is guaranteed 4 wins in league alone and 3rd place finish in MVAL at very least will get you into the d2 playoffs.
October 28th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
What are this weeks best games? I know MV vs Foothill will be a good one. Encinal vs St. Mary’s will be a thriller. What other games are people looking forward to?
October 28th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Josh Atkinson is still playing football at Granada. He played DB vs. Cal last week and I’m sure he’ll be back there this week vs. DLS.
Marcus may be and probably is a better overall football player than either Atkinson twin. Their recruitment I’m sure has a lot to do with their name, but also with their speed. Both brothers have won the 100 Meters at the NCS meet the past 2 years. George finished 3rd in the state his soph year, and when he was injured last year, his brother Josh won the NCS 100 Meters. Neither twin has impressed me all that much as a football player, but there is no substitute for speed.
I’m sure if Marcus has finished 3rd in the state in the 100 meters his soph year, he would have had more schools looking at him earlier. It’s my understanding that both will be playing football for the Irish, but I would not be surprised to see one or both end up just concentrating on track in a year or 2.
October 28th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
George Atkinson did not get many yards in the Cal game and I think the DLS game will be about the same. 65 of his total yards, which was not very much, came from one run where he got through. Seems to happen once a game to the better teams and multiple times to the weaker defenses. He can run when he gets open but there are better backs for power, vision, and quickness.
October 28th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
What will get any of the DIII teams from NCS in the state game is the fact that one team will be able to get through that gauntlet.
October 28th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
My bad on Tennyson. They’re already qualified for D-II (3-2 against other D-II teams with only Arroyo left to play – guaranteed .500 record). So at least two qualified D-II teams won’t go to the playoffs. If Tennyson wins one more game, they’re sure to get selected over San Lorenzo (who Tennyson beat) and Alameda (who San Lorenzo beat).
To further what EBfootball said, what other section would send a D-III team over NCS? Unless the D-III playoffs are filled with upsets and all of the top dogs were knocked off, whoever wins D-III should go to state.
October 28th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Football415 thanks for the info about the MCAL. It’s still not ideal but it’s better knowing San Rafael couldn’t “tie” with an undefeated co-champ by avoiding the top two teams in the league.
October 28th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
outsider that’s what I have been saying about George all season. he is contained except for one or two runs a game that make his yardage look a lot better. and yes the athleticism is what he and his brother are being recruited for. Lots of upside, but they will need to learn quickly at the next level. At least they do have track to fall back on if football doesn’t work out.
October 28th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
is George Atkinson related to the former Raider George Atkinson
October 28th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Yes he is
October 28th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
His son
October 28th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
I stand correceted about what I posted earlier about Alameda’s league record. To clarify things to another poster is the only way Alameda is seeded above Tennyson is if Tennyson losses it’s remaining games. I don’t see that happening anyway. to another poster, up north the Sonoma County Athletic teams are mostly D111 as the same with Marin County and North Bay Leagues. The only teams in my opinion who can probably compete with teams in the east bay if they played each other frequently are Cardinal Newmman and Marin Catholic. Windsor and Casa Grande would be my next two choices.
D11 teams that have already have at least one qualification for N.C.S
Overall record(at least .500)
Casa Grande(1)
Concord(2)
Northgate(3)
Pinole Valley(4)
Rancho Cotate(5)
Redwood(6)
Windsor(7)
League record(at least .500)
American(8)
Pinole Valley
Washington(9)
Division record(at least .500)
Casa Grande
Concord
Hayward(10)
Northgate
Pinole Valley
Redwood
Tennyson(11)
Windsor
only listed in alpabetical order
October 28th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
rumor has it theres gonna be over 3,500 ppl at the ygnacio valley vs northgate game.
October 28th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Atkinson needs to stop running out of bounds and learn to take a hit
October 28th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Anyone like Rancho knocking off Cardinal Newman at home tomorrow night?
October 28th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Sorry I just can’t hold back but What did I tell all of you haters? You see what we’re about now?
October 28th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Arroyo Dons 6-4, in the playoffs for sure.
October 28th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
olinecoach i see you’ve listed the teams you lost to but who have you beat? say you don’t beat ec that makes you 4-6 just like tennyson. they beat slz they may get the nod.oline am i not telling it like it is? you never answered what good team alameda has beaten on the road? are my facts wrong or has kemp won a playoff game? tell it like it is oline coach!
October 28th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
kemp i know you dont want to talk playoffs! not my fault island04-6 dont want to claim to be a var coach. kemper you tell it like it is have you ever beaten a team who’s gone to the playoffs and won atleast 1 game?
October 28th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
MVALFremont are you slow ? or do you not know very much about high school football? Since the Redwood Empire and the East Bay leagues started there combined NCS Championship games in 2006 excluding DLS and Div I the Northbay has beat the Eastbay 11 out of 15 games that is a .733 winning percentage . So how can you say that the northbay teams cannnot compete.
October 29th, 2010 at 12:53 am
Bleacher coach forgive me for being slow or having a lack of knowledge about High School Football as you put it, I’ve been around High schools sports since 1996 much of it around the east bay and most likely I have a bias towards every east bay school beacuse of it. I’m well aware of what the North bay schools have done in the past against east bay schools in N.C.S and in the regular season. I take nothing away from schools in the north bay as I’m sure they have great athletes and probably the same number of athletes the east bay has. do I expect a north bay school to win D111 and or D11, in fact San Rafael could win D111 or even Marin Catholic could win it all, in fact Windsor or even Casa Grande could win D11. In my post I was trying(looking back not really being clear) that some schools in the old Redwood Empire(should have listed more than four schools) will compete with the east bay based on this year alone. those schools being Windsor Rancho Cotate, Casa Grande, Redwood, Marin Catholic, San Rafael, Eureka, Cardinal Newman, Fort Bragg, Healdsburg, Kelseyville and Fortuna. Novato, Santa Rosa, Analy and Montgomery and everyone else I have mentioned would compete pretty good playing the Bay Shore League, half the Hayward Area, half the Mission Valley, half of the Oakland schools,half the ACCAL. My not competing with east bay schools comes from my believe that they will struggle against the east bay league and the Bay Valley league. In Fact I probably should have maentioned most of the D1 schools while I was at it, though looking back I should have mentioned that more clearer to you and everyone else and I will make Myself more clearer in the future And if I’m wrong I will admit to being wrong.
October 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Don Juan you’re back! Congrats on the Big Win last week.
October 29th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
THIS POLL SUCKS… HOW DOES A TEAM(MACK) STAY RANK IN THE SAME SPOT FOR 4 WEEKS? NOT ONLY THAT THEY LOST VOTES…ON TOP OF THAT THE TEAMS ABOVE THEM HAVE BEEN LOSING?
I’M BOYCOTTING OAKLAND TRIBUNE!!! S.F. CRONICLE… WHOS COMING WITH ME? TRIBUNE DOSEN’T EVEN SUPPORT ITS OWN CITY!!!
October 29th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
If you want to boycott, the vote is Tuesaday.
The teams above Mack can all beat Mack, several of them very very soundly. Hats off to the Warriors if they win the OAL. When they join the NCS and the OAL disbands, then we can rank them higher after playing better competition.
October 29th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
North Bay teams have been smacking EastBay teams for awhile now- in regular season and playoffs. They tend to have more established, sound systems with very little coaching changes.
October 29th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
#85YoMama,
Encinal can’t beat MACL are you kidding me?
October 29th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
MACK
October 30th, 2010 at 8:56 am
So how do the standing play out now?
1. DLS
2.Cal
3. Concord
4. MV
5. SRV
6.Foothill
7.Granada
8. Mack
9. Pinole
10. Pitt
11. Heritage
12. Bishop O
13. James Logan
14. Northgate
15. Alhambra
15. Miramonte
October 30th, 2010 at 9:06 am
northgate has to be out..with a loss to an average YV team…alhambra OT win should put them on the bubble as well…other than that looks ok…but i dont think northgate, alhambra, miramonte would beat washington or deer valley so if we are taking 15 best…would have to reconsider those..top 13 look ok but i would keep logan ahead of bdowd…and i think pinole has to slide a bit considering a shaky win to a not very good hercules team..maybe weather played a big part though
October 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
oh forgot encinal got to throw them in as well..somewhere after top 10 probably…
October 30th, 2010 at 9:30 am
NCal your right I forgot about Encinal I would have them at 9 push everyone back 1 so Miramonte is out for now alond with Washington and DV but they are all right there at 15.
October 30th, 2010 at 11:36 am
that’s more like it . bishop odowd may not have been playing spectacular teams so far but they just came off a convincing win over hayward, a 20-point victory when san leandro only beat hayward by 1 point in the last minute of the game. they will take HAAL and make things happen in the NCS.
October 30th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
MV Alum, I think you are pretty close in the new rankings, but do you really think Logan will drop in the poll after winning 55-7 and the team ahead of them (NG) losing? Are Pitt and Heritage going to leap frog them from HM all the way to #10 & #11?
October 30th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Prep thanks I didn’t see the Logan score last nite so Encinal at 9, Pinole 10, Logan at 11, then Pitt 12, Heritage 13, Odowd 14, Northgate and the rest fighting for 15.
October 30th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
how would logan be ahead of heritage and pitt? pitt beat heritage, and heritage beat logan. also, kennedy which logan scored 55 points on, heritage beat by 61 points. if anything, it should be heritage, then logan. pitt should not be in there until they win league. with the record they have, which was a tough one, they still have a losing record.
October 31st, 2010 at 4:19 am
1.DLS
2.CAL
3. Foothill
4.Encinal
5.MACK.
6.Granda
7.san ramon valley
8.Pinole valley
9. monte vista
10.Concord.
11.Miramonte
12.James logan
13. Berkely
14. Heritage
15. BOD
MY true opinion
October 31st, 2010 at 7:58 am
If the the D IV playoffs started this week, here’s my seeding..
1. St. Patrick/ St. Vincent 7-1
2. Healdsburg 6-2
3. El Molino 6-3
4. Salesian 6-2
5. Middletown 7-1
6. Fort Bragg 7-1
7. Fortuna 5-4
8. Ferndale 5-2
9. Harker 7-1
10. Kelseyville 6-2
11. Berean Christian 6-2
12. Willits 6-2
13. Lower Lake 4-4
14. St. Mary’s 3-5
15. McKinleyville 3-5
16. St. Helena 3-5
October 31st, 2010 at 9:33 am
My best guess to SCL Alum about the D4 playoffs will look like this after the final 10 weeks played:
1. Healdsburg – edges El Molino in huge showdown and killer strength of schedule these Hounds have bite.
2. St. Patricks – tough every year no matter what and should see the Greyhounds in the NCS finals
3. Middletown – Very good with 9 wins hard to beat at home in their den and they may run the table
4. Salesian – two losses to St. Pats and Mac gets them the number 4 seed at best but Chieftans are solid
5. Fort Bragg – This program is on the rise and won it all last year. Can they do it again? Maybe so….
6. Ferndale – Will finish 7-2 and early loss to Fortuna won’t hurt as Fortuna will finish 5-5 against harsh schedule indeed
7. El Molino – Nasty schedule and massive win against a-then undefeated very good Windsor team keeps them in the top 8 even upon losing to Healdsburg. (If they beat Healdsburg they vault into #1 or 2 slot)
8. Berean Christian – Never take the Lords name in vain and these Eagles never do that even upon tough losses. They need to Show Up and Play it well vs. Salesian in Week 10 to get an 8th seed
9. Harker – Other than in-league foes they have avoided any type of upper tough schedule. This team could be knocked out early in playoffs
10. Fortuna – Huskies are solid and have played one of the tougher D4 tallies in 2010. A first-round rematch with El Molino looms on the horizon like a tornado BUT this time Fortuna gets on the team bus in order to play on the road
11. Willits – This once proud program has rebounded and their win over Kelseyville keeps them above K-town
12. Kelseyville – Might have the biggest OL in D4 after Healdsburg and Middletown. They are tough at home but might not get that opportunity in playoffs
13. St. Helena – weak schedule but trying to build their program up. They are done after one round and getting ready for next year
14. Lower Lake – Terrible loss to an average D5 St. Helena team is very bad and they are one and done too
14. St. Mary’s – Win over a good Moreau team keeps them above the bottom two teams in the playoffs. They will go to Middletown and get beat after keeping it close til halftime
15. Piedmont – If they beat Moreau and JFK they are most certainly guaranteed a rematch vs. either Healdsburg or St. Patricks
16. Clear Lake – 5-5 is the Best they can finish right now and even that is a longshot. Weaker schedule hurts them come playoff time
October 31st, 2010 at 10:02 am
Yeah, Killer D, you have good arguments on D IV at the end of the regular season. It’s real interesting, with El Molino, how they are a team really on the rise. Done finally are the 2-8, 3-7 long seasons for the Lions. Also to their credit, they’ve had consistency in their coaching staff the last several years. As a ‘Hound fan, I’m actually a bit nervous about this Friday’s game at home. Healdsburg is usually tough to beat at Rec Park, but statistically speaking (all the recent years of losing to Healdsburg), and given the huge Windsor win, El Mo seems dangerous. I DO pick the ‘Hounds to squeeze one out, but it’s gonna be a shootout, something like 39-33..
October 31st, 2010 at 10:12 am
I made an error and accidentally put 17 teams in, my bad.
Take Clear Lake out of the mix,
It is very possible that St. Helena and Lower Lake drop and get seeded #15 and # 16 based on very weak schedules.
That would move St. Mary’s to #13 and Piedmont #14 based on their strength of schedules and weach with wins over a a good Moreau team.
That would pit St. Mary’s against St. Patricks or Healdsburg and Piedmont would go to Middletown.
El Molino if Very good this year and I expect it to be 23-22 in favor of the Hounds.
Watch out for Fortuna.
October 31st, 2010 at 10:13 am
I am excited to see Concord in the D2 playoffs, Lloyd will put on a show for sure
October 31st, 2010 at 11:34 am
Norcalfball are you kidding me with Encinal somewhere after 10 you guess?
Encinal will return to the NCS finals (for the 3rd year in a row)
2008 – NCS Champions (undefeated)
2009 – Runner up to a good MC team (Record 12-2)
2010 – NCS Champions again!!! (Currently 6-1)
There are great teams playing good football this year, so we’ll see what happens in the playoffs, but I think they are playing for the steak knives (2nd Place)
Go Jets !!!
October 31st, 2010 at 11:39 am
encinal winning d3…which i agree very likely could happen has nothing to do with a top 10 overall ranking…d3 is not like beating the EBAL teams…
show me a quality win from a higher division, then shout for encinal respect….
October 31st, 2010 at 11:49 am
just want people’s opinions on how yv will do in division 3 after playing in d.2 for a couple of years??
October 31st, 2010 at 12:13 pm
C.Sparks
Foothill just lost so how are they number #3 and Concord is ranked top 3 in most polls but you have them at #10 a little too much discrepancy
October 31st, 2010 at 12:15 pm
It will be Encinal vs. Marin Catholic in the D3 finals.
Encinal will WIN again, second title in three years.
They are the Fastest team in Northern California.
Nobody comes close to their team speed except DLS.
October 31st, 2010 at 12:22 pm
With Cardinal Newman & Eureka losing recently how does everybody see the brackets breaking down in D-III?
My guess how the season ends & the rankings break down:
1)MC (MCAL champ)
2)Encinal (BSAL champ)
3)Miramonte (DFAL champ)
4)BOD (HAAL champ)
5)Cardinal Newman
6)Alhambra
7)Eureka (HD Big 3 Champ)
8)YV
9)San Rafael
10)Acalanes
11)Campolindo
12)San Marin
13)Novato
14)Moreau Catholic
15)Del Norte
16)EC
October 31st, 2010 at 12:42 pm
With Miramonte losing to LL BOD might get the nod over the Mats. I think Cardinal Newman is not a Top 5 seed.
I would take Eureka over Cardinal Newman every time this year.
Moreau should be ahead of San Marin and Novato and Acalanes.
October 31st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
KillerD, What makes you think that Encinal will win it all? Have you seen them in person?
October 31st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
I have only seen Encinal in person during the playoffs the last two years.
And talked to coaches about this year’s team.
When a program is hot it is tough to pick against them and in a One Game Title fight against MC in 6 weeks, It is much easier to believe that Jets athletes will make big plays enough to beat MC who is more plodding offensively, which the Jets can shut down overall
October 31st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
If Perkins’ top seeds hold up in the first round D3, would be intriguing having an Encinal-Eureka matchup in a 2 vs. 7 seed..
October 31st, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Old Former Meddling Coach, what are your thoughts on the D III field in section this year?
October 31st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
San Marin, Novato, Acalanes much tougher schedules then Moreau. Moreau may finish 5-5 just like the rest of these teams but who did they really beat? They tied a less then average SLZ & lost to an average St. Mary’s. Best win is who Kennedy? They suck.
October 31st, 2010 at 4:25 pm
I mean 5-4-1
October 31st, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Thats a tough 2nd round for the Jets no doubt but who does it favor? With Eureka’s situation you’d have to say the Jets. 5-6 hour drive has to worth an 8 point advantage by itself. I don’t think one team that has had to travel up North Ukiah, Fortuna, Eureka length has won yet. The reverse has to be the same. Not saying its a guarenteed win but it has to be tough for High school kids to travel that far then play a game.
October 31st, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Mandown have you seen the Jets in person? If so what games?
October 31st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I think on paper, an Encinal-Loggers second round in Alameda would result with a 35-28 Encinal win. Eureka is very good this year, though perhaps a little less dominant than last year with the Vainuku machine. Yes, six hour bus rides do play a significant factor
October 31st, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Not sure if my opinion will help you….but I’ll take a stab:
The Jets do everything at a crazy fast pace. The straight handoffs are so quick that the OL just has to get in front of the DL and the backs are by. Yesterday at ST Mary’s, there were a couple straight powers where the RB busted through the line and he had 2-3 OL in his way with no one to block. He just had to manage his way through his own men and it was home from there. They went almost exclusively with shotgun yesterday, which kept Ve’e as a fullback…..but if a team can’t stop that, then why not keep going to it, I guess? It seems like they have about 4-5 RBs that can get through the seams and into the endzone on any given basic run. With #65 collapsing half the line, the running game is tough to stop! They need to make sure that kid gets pissed before every game too! He looks very even tempered….but a little fire up him would be even scarier!
Defensively they are real small, but real quick. #4 looked great on the DL penetrating, but his hot head keeps getting him in trouble…and after his display yesterday, I would hope he is suspended for leaving the field….he made a great performance look bad at times. For as great a job that Tenorio does, he would serve notice to at least suspend that kid. Too bad, because the kid was really doing well at DL. This Defense really gets to the ball with a lot of speed. They are small though, and with numbers, my fear is that they can be beat up and pounded into fatigue by the fourth quarter? I hope not. These kids really play with a ton of heart though…and while this has always been a trade mark at Encinal, their coach deserves a lot of credit for inspiring them. I notice he calls all the offensive plays and most of the defense…..so it really is his show…I think. These kids expect to win….and that’s a big part of the game.
Overall, Encinal will fight any team till the end, but size on defense and sheer numbers will make it hard for them to beat MC….but the speed and precision that they play with gives them a shot at taking back the crown. I hear MC is huge….but hopefully the rubber game works out and we get to see it….I’ll root for the Jets!!! First they have to win a couple games to get to MC, and that will be no easy feat…
October 31st, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Reggie Hammond, Yes I have been to two Jet games this year. Alameda and SPSV.
October 31st, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Two solid games to make judgements. You don’t think they have what it takes to go 3 or 4 rounds deep? You checked out MC at all?
October 31st, 2010 at 9:52 pm
No I havent had the chance to check them out live this year but from what I hear and there record says that they’re forreal. My peeps from Berkeley say that they had problems with the speed Berkley had so that could be a problem for them if they had to play the Jets. From what I’ve seen with Encial is that they can be really explosive one second and very average another. One thing tha I like about there team is the defense. Very fast and tackle very well even with smaller guys running around. They have holes in the secondary though but have speed to make up for it. Alameda and SPSV both were able to find some success passing the ball. I think Encinal has a very good chance to be back in the show if they can be the team I saw against a very good SPSV team. Also who is #23 I love that guy. Very fast and he seems to have a bunch of athletic ability. Him and Allen are a force to be recond with.
November 1st, 2010 at 10:17 am
Gonna be a tough road for the Jets. Maybe playing a very good opponent 2nd round. It could be Eureka who are very good & know how to win in the play-offs. Didn’t look very good 1st half against St. Mary’s but I think its totally those cowards Albany to blame. Losing 50 plays on O & 50 plays on D & how ever many on Special teams is hard when your in the rhythm of playing once a wee. Not to mention how they must have felt to mentally prepare to play a game ride a bus & have a staff of cowards Bitch out has to have a lil mental drain.
November 1st, 2010 at 10:29 am
Naw,Reggie. It was just saturday. Seems like the last 3 yrs they just start slow on Saturdays! LOL. Jet Pride!
November 1st, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Reggie Hammond, A good friend of mine just told me that Encinal looked very flat against St. Mary’s. And the second half was a different story. He said Allen only played defense, coach decision? Was he being disciplined for something?
November 1st, 2010 at 10:12 pm
No ManDown I think Coach Joe just wanted to give the other guys more of a chance to lug the rock. Jet Pride!
November 1st, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I don’t care what they looked like in the first half……how flat is 56-14? As soon as they went to the shotgun offense, St. Marys just were overmatched with the power running. Curious as to why Allen didn’t run though…..not that good for his college chances? If it was for discipline, I would applaud it. Not really our business though, i guess?
November 1st, 2010 at 11:19 pm
#23 is paul okaumura, he is probally the fastest man i seen this year, best sides that kid from mack.. its a toss up…
November 1st, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Yea #23 is a burner. I like that guy is he getting any looks?
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:06 am
hmm not sure, just a fan.. i dont see any weakness in his game