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East Bay Football Poll — 11-1
By Jimmy Durkin
Monday, November 1st, 2010 at 2:28 pm in East Bay Football, East Bay Poll.
Here’s the latest East Bay football poll. Enjoy.
| Team | Record | Points | Last week | Comment |
| 1. De La Salle (7) | 8-0 | 105 | 1 | Racked up nearly 500 yards of offense in blow out of Granada |
| 2. California | 8-0 | 98 | 2 | Scored game’s first 30 points to cruise past Amador |
| 3. Concord | 7-1 | 91 | 3 | Pica’s five TDs lead way to another lopsided win |
| 4. San Ramon Valley | 5-3 | 81 | t5 | Wolves in control after a brief 7-0 deficit vs. Livermore |
| 5. Monte Vista | 5-3 | 76 | 8 | Mustangs sit alone in third place in EBAL with two to play |
| 6. Foothill | 5-3 | 63 | 4 | Falcons couldn’t stop Monte Vista passing game in loss |
| 7. Encinal | 7-1 | 61 | 7 | Jets overcome sluggish first half to trounce St. Mary’s |
| 8. McClymonds | 8-0 | 58 | 9 | Receiving little resistance in their pursuit of a perfect season | 9. Granada | 5-3 | 57 | t5 | George Atkinson III injured in second quarter of loss to DLS |
| 10. Pinole Valley | 7-0-1 | 45 | 10 | Spartans can clinch at least a share of ACCAL title this week |
| 11. James Logan | 6-2 | 33 | 12 | Colts firing on all cylinders in 55-7 win over Kennedy-Fremont |
| 12. Bishop O’Dowd | 7-1 | 26 | 13 | Can clinch first HAAL title since 1999 Friday vs. San Leandro |
| 13. Heritage | 6-2 | 15 | NR | Patriots bounce back after loss vs. Pitt to beat Freedom |
| 14. Alhambra | 6-2 | 12 | 14 | Bulldogs go to overtime to outlast Campolindo |
| 15. Miramonte | 7-1 | 11 | 15 | Idle Matadors are among three DFAL teams tied for first at 3-1 |
Also receiving votes: Berkeley (6-3, 4 points), Northgate (7-1, 2), Pittsburg (3-5, 2). Records are through Saturday. The East Bay poll is voted upon by the prep sports staff of the Bay Area News Group-East Bay.
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November 1st, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Like the poll…
November 1st, 2010 at 5:05 pm
how do you have logan ahead of heritage? last i checked they beat logan. oh, i forgot, this is by voting on who you guys like not actual stats.
November 1st, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Here’s my crack at predicting the playoffs:
D-I
1 – De La Salle (EBAL Champs)
2 – California
3 – Granada
4 – San Ramon Valley
5 – Monte Vista
6 – Foothill
7 – James Logan (MVAL Champs)
8 – Pittsburg (BVAL Champs)
9 – Heritage
10 – Deer Valley
11 – Berkeley
12 – San Leandro
13 – Freedom
14 – College Park
15 – Newark Memorial
Championship – DLS over Cal
D-II
1 – Concord (DVAL Champs)
2 – Pinole Valley (ACCAL Champs)
3 – Rancho Cotate (North Bay League Champs)
4 – Windsor (Sonoma County Champs)
5 – Washington
6 – Northgate
7 – Casa Grande
8 – Maria Carillo
9 – Dougherty Valley
10 – Hayward
11 – Las Lomas
12 – Clayton Valley
13 – Arroyo
14 – American
15 – Redwood
16 – Montgomery
Championship – Pinole Valley over Concord
D-III
1 – Marin Catholic (Marin County Champs)
2 – Miramonte (DFAL Champs)
3 – Encinal (BSAL Champs)
4 – Cardinal Newman
5 – Eureka (HDN Big 3 Champs)
6 – Bishop O’Dowd (HAAL Champs)
7 – San Rafael
8 – Alhambra
9 – Analy
10 – Acalanes
11 – Ygnacio Valley
12 – San Marin
13 – Novato
14 – Campolindo
15 – Moreau Catholic
16 – Del Norte
Championship – Marin Catholic over Bishop O’Dowd
D-IV
1 – St. Patrick/St. Vincent
2 – Salesian (BFL Champs)
3 – Healdsburg
4 – Middletown (NCI-North Champs)
5 – Ferndale (HDN Little 4 Champs)
6 – El Molino
7 – Fort Bragg
8 – Kelseyville
9 – Fortuna
10 – Berean Christian
11 – Harker
12 – St. Mary’s
13 – Willits
14 – St. Helena (NCI-South Champs)
15 – Valley Christian
16 – Clear Lake
Championship – Salesian over Middletown
November 1st, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Division 1 could be a replay of NCS championship 2007.
November 1st, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Why does Logan get the 7 seed while Pitt/Heritage go 8 and 9? That doesn’t make any sense. Logan lost to Heritage and Heritage lost to Pitt.
November 1st, 2010 at 7:56 pm
eb football coach – that’s how they vote on it. it doesn’t have to make sense. it’s who they like. c’mon BOD, on top of heritage? heritage even beat logan worst than foothill. it doesn’t make sense.
November 1st, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Logan ahead of Heritage???? Pitt not ranked??? Who has Logan beat?? The teams that Logan have beat have a combined record of 18 wins and 32 losses??? Maybe you should re-think that entry??
November 1st, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Las Lomas seeded over Arroyo?
November 1st, 2010 at 8:46 pm
who has concord beat? pinole should get the number one seed
November 1st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
concord has beat heritage and amador valley, and did not tie sequoia, be careful what you wish for you may just get it. check the strength of schedule numbers on calpreps bro.
November 1st, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Having seen Concord and Pinole both several times, no way Pinole can play with Concord…..and that’s coming from a Pinole alum..
November 1st, 2010 at 10:27 pm
luv the hate you get from one mans predication. bval fan must have played badminton
November 1st, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Las Lomas victory over Miramonte will hold up more compared to Arroyo’s win over San Leandro because Miramonte will have a better record than San leandro
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:44 am
and las lomas will be a dangerous playoff team . marquis waters dominates when he wants to.
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:59 am
dont get me wrong, concord is my pick to go all the ways in d2, but they might be a little advertised… i mean they beat all “good” teams in there down years…. but, i think and hope ricky can take ncs home.. i am a east bay fan…. just thought pinole is undeafted, win better key wins then concord
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:38 am
Jimmy,
I see that Encinal has a 7-1 record. Does that mean it is official and Albany forfeited?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:50 am
The POLL is starting to tighten up and overall very fair and seems reliable.
Here is my early morning take on the Playoffs going into WEEK 9:
D1
1 – De La Salle
2 – California
3 – MV
4 – San Ramon Valley
5 – Granada
6 – Foothill
7 – James Logan
8 – Pittsburg
9 – Heritage
10 – Deer Valley
11 – Berkeley
12 – San Leandro
13 – Freedom
14 – College Park
15 – Newark Memorial
Champ – DLS vs. Cal (CAL Stunning Upset for NCS Title)
D2
1 – Concord
2 – Pinole Valley
3 – Rancho Cotate
4 – Windsor
5 – NG
6 – Washington
7 – Casa Grande
8 – DV
9 – Carillo
10 – Hayward
11 – Las Lomas
12 – Clayton Valley
13 – Arroyo
14 – Redwood
15 – American
16 – Montgomery
Champ Concord vs. Pinole (Lloyd TOP in Concord Win)
D3
1 – Encinal
2 – Marin Catholic
3 – Miramonte
4 – Bishop Odowd
5 – Eureka
6 – Cardinal Newman
7 – San Rafael
8 – Alhambra
9 – Analy
10 – YV
11 – Acalanes
12 – San Marin
13 – Moreau
14 – Campolindo
15 – Novato
16 – Del Norte
Champ Encinal vs. Marin Catholic (Encinal Gold)
D4
1 – Healdsburg
2 – St. Patricks
3 – Middletown
4 – Salesian
5 – Ferndale
6 – Fort Bragg
7 – Kelseyville
8 – El Molino
9 – Fortuna
10 – Berean Christian
11 – Harker
12 – St. Mary’s
13 – Willits
14 – Clear Lake
15 – Piedmont
16 – Valley Christian
Champ – Healdsburg vs. St. Patricks
(Hounds of Healdsburg take the Title)
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
KillerD you are really high on Encinal this year. Why?
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:30 am
Concord beat Heritage. The same Heritage team that lost tp pitt, the same pitt team that lost to berk, the same berk team that lost to pinole. pinole has the best win out of the two over cotate. the berk and heritage wins are even. seeing that berk beat the bval champs. sequoia is very good, will finish 9-0-1 and be a number one seed. with all that being said, i give concord the number 1 seed, they know how to finish weaker opponents (see mt diablo) and pinole stumbles (see hercules).
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
I like the luv for the Jets but Marin Catholic is no doubt the top seed this year. As far as them getting the number 2 seed or lower it comes down to best win & best loss from what I’ve heard. Of the teams with a loss the Jets lost to the best team. Assuming all teams win out it would be combination of Las Lomas vs Serra & Alhambra vs St. Pats. I would give the nod to the Jets. No easy task for Miramonte to beat Alhambra the last game of the year. If Alhambra wins then the JEts will get the nod over them.
Then there’s O’dowd. Best win the last 3 years has been Hayward. Loss being a one win team SI. Jets get the nod. I think they will play a very motivated SL this Friday & will need a strong effort to beat them.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 am
Encinal is on a program era run, they are the best until beaten this year.
Look for a great match between them and MC
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 am
Where’s Bleachercoach? I know Novato lost but damn you can weigh in with your North Bay bias. Wait Eureka & Cardinal Newman have lost recently too. Not much to say. Can’t be a Novato fan & MC fan.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
Question is: Has Encinal broken down Miramonte, BOD, Cardinal Newman and Marin Catholic yet? Ross Anderson is very talented. Marin QB is nice accompanied by a huge O-Line.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:51 am
Berkeley caught pitt when they were still trying to figure things out and still didn’t have some really good players eligible. If they play in the playoffs, it’ll be a blowout.
If pitt ends up on Cal high’s side of the bracket, they go the NCS finals. Guaranteed.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:55 am
Not sure I like this week’s poll that much. A few teams ranked lower than they should be. Problem is with the EBAL teams beating each other hard to figure out who should be ranked where. Still, 2 of Granada’s 3 losses are to to Cal and DLS, not sure that should drop them to 9. Also agree Heritage should not be below Logan, and Alhambra should not go in front of Miramonte when Mats have bye and Alhambra struggles past Campo. It’s time for Pitt to move back in as at this point they are playing like a top 15 team. Despite the head to head win I will keep them below the Patriots at this point, until Pitt gets by Freedom at which case they move past them. Still wary that they could fall flat. BOD hasn’t earned the ranking yet. To do that they actually need to win playoff games.
1. DLS
2. Cal
3. Concord
t4. SRV
t4. MV
6. Foothill
7. Granada
8. Encinal
9. Mack
10. PV
11. Heritage
12. Logan
13. Pitt
14. Miramonte
15. Alhambra
Games To Watch For
ACCAL: El Cerrito@PV
This is pretty much the last big matchup of the ACCAL, although I think it will be a mismatch. Still PV has had their issues at times this season, and last week’s game against Hercules was an indication that there are some nights when this team is vulnerable. Still I think the Spartans get the W 35-14 and essentially lock up the ACCAL title.
BVAL: Freedom@Pitt
This is the last test for Pitt in league. The Falcons are not mathematically eliminated from the BVAL race, but with two losses are essentially done. They also need one more win to become playoff eligible. Still they could pose some problems for Pitt. The Pirates have been on a roll since the start of league play and would like to keep it going as the playoffs approach. I don’t see it stopping now, but I do think the game will be close. Pitt wins 27-21.
DFAL: Dougherty Valley@Alhambra
Three teams are tied atop the DFAL standings with a loss apiece. Two of those teams meet this Friday. The Wildcats of Dougherty have been maybe the biggest story in the East Bay this year. Despite being a very young program, they are starting to become a formidable one. Both teams have qualified for playoffs, and both should make it, so this is pretty much for a possible league title, and the home field advantage that title brings for at least one and maybe two rounds of playoffs. Alhambra has a huge showdown with Miramonte next week. If Alhambra wins this week, and barring a big upset by Dublin over the Mats on Friday, that matchup next week would be for the league title. But they should not be looking ahead as the Wildcats have certainly shown a toughness and tenacity that is the mark of a good team. And given the struggles that Alhambra has with Campo last week, it leaves one wondering if the Wildcats might pull off another upset. But I think that the Bulldogs have too much behind the running of Jared Leaf. Alhambra wins 28-14.
DVAL: Concord@Northgate
It was only a week ago that many thought everyone was talking about this matchup, showcasing two of the most prolific offenses in the East Bay. This would be a battle of unbeatens and essentially would be for the league title. YV had other plans for the Broncos and put a beat down on them. Still it makes for an intriguing matchup. If the Broncos want to play the role of spoiler, they will need a healthy Cameron Stover. Without him, the Broncos offense struggled to do much of anything and if he can’t go this week, it will be another long night for the Broncos. Given Northgate’s defensive struggles, I feel very confident in saying that Concord will put a lot of points on the board. The question is, can the Broncos’ offense keep up. Even with Stover, I don’t know that they can match Concord score for score and see Concord winning 49-28.
HAAL: San Leandro@BOD
This game is for the league title as both teams have pretty easy games next week. SL needs a win in order to claim a share of the title, BOD needs a victory to claim the league crown outright. While SL has certainly dominated this series for awhile, I think that changes. These are not the SL Pirates we grew accustomed to watching for so many years, and the Dragons have been on a tear through league. BOD wins 35-7.
EBAL Previews:
Livermore@DLS- Rest time for banged up Spartans as they prepare for next week’s showdown with Cal. But a good chance for some backups to showcase their stuff.
Cal@Foothill- The Falcons have had their struggles as of late with last week’s Monte Vista game being the latest example. While Sweeney has done a commendable job with not much talent, teams are figuring out the Falcons. Even their usually stout defense was shredded by MV’s passing attack that is not at the level it usually is. Still, Sweeney will have his boys ready to go as a win here could do a lot to help their playoff seeding. Cal on the other hand has been the big surprise for all fans. We expected they would be a top four team, but they have been blowing everyone away. The showdown with DLS next week looms large, but Bellici will be doing everything he can to keep the team focused on the present. the last two games, the head coach has admitted that the team was playing sloppy, and they can’t afford to do that on the road against a motivated opponent. I don’t see them letting down this week, and the Grizzlies move on with a 38-14 victory.
Granada@MV- A huge game this week in the EBAL. Granada is trying to keep pace for a potential third place finish in league and they sit one game behind the Mustangs for that position. Atkinson III went down last week with what was said to be an Achilles tendon strain. I think Coach Silva saw where the game against DLS was going and decided he would rather not risk aggravating his star’s injury. He will need him to go this week if they have any hope of beating MV. The Mustangs have been on a tear since the thrashing they received at the hands of DLS. Unfortunately, it looks like Sullas will be out once again watch will put more pressure onto the shoulders of the emerging Jeff Lockie. MV has also had their struggles with solid rushing attacks, and Granada has some tough runners including Horn. If Atkinson is healthy it wouldn’t surprise me to see him have a big game, but the Mustangs still pull out the victory 42-21.
SRV@AV- The Wolves have been an interesting team. They showcase one of the best defenses in all of Northern California, but their offense has been average at best. They come in off a win over Livermore. Meanwhile the Dons haven’t won a game since they beat Livermore in the first week of league play. At times soph qb Moreno has shown some good ability, and other times he shows his youth. I think SRV’s defense is the story this week as they will carry the team to victory, but don’t be surprised to see a very close game. 24-14 Wolves win.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:55 am
#12… it’s not hate…and no, two time NCS Champion in FOOTBALL (although badmiton was hella fun in PE..)
Just one mans prediction.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:11 am
I have a feeling that after this week there will be a shake up in the Top 15 but for now this is my board
1. DLS
2. Cal
3. Concord
4. SRV
5. MV
6. Encinal
7. Foothill
8. Mack
9. Granada
10. Pinole Valley
11. ODowd
12. Logan
13. Miramonte
14. Heritage
15. Alhambra
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:22 am
FB Guru,
It does appear as though it is going down as a forfeit. I’m still awaiting official confirmation from either the BSAL or NCS, but that seems to be the understanding that Encinal is going to get the forfeit win.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
It looks like the biggest issue with my prediction is Logan over the BVAL teams. There are no locks, but if Pittsburg wins the league, I can’t see how any of the other league teams will get seeded higher than them. I predict Logan will win the MVAL and finish with an 8-2 record, and I don’t think the seeding committee will put a 5-5 Pittsburg team over an 8-2 league champion James Logan. For that matter, they may also put Berkeley over Pittsburg since Berkeley beat them head to head.
As far as the Arroyo/Las Lomas question, Las Lomas’ win over Miramonte and tough non-league games with Marin Catholic and Northgate should impress more than Arroyo’s win over San Leandro and non-league loss to Newark Memorial.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
KillerD,
I see you have Encinal at #1 in D-III, Moreau at #13 in D-III and Piedmont qualifying in D-IV. The only way that Encinal could be considered for the #1 seed and the only way that Piedmont could qualify for D-IV would be if they win out. If both of them do that, then Moreau has to lose out, meaning they’d be 5-4-1. If that happens, I don’t see any way they’d get seeded over Campo or Novato. They might be sitting home with 5-4-1 record.
November 2nd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
How far will yv get in the d.3 playoffs?
November 2nd, 2010 at 1:12 pm
EB Football coach “Berkeley caught pitt when they were still trying to figure things out and still didn’t have some really good players eligible. If they play in the playoffs, it’ll be a blowout. If pitt ends up on Cal high’s side of the bracket, they go the NCS finals. Guaranteed”
This is a very bold prediction considering Pitt still hasn’t really beaten anyone. I will agree that they are a much better team than when the league started, but I think you are going a little too far. I would take Cal 10 times out of 10 against Pitt. The joke of that matchup would be a 5-5 likely 7-9 seed will host a 9-1 2nd seed because the 5-5 team is a league champ. That is a joke. I say that Pitt is lucky to be in the BVAL because had they been in EBAL, with or without De La Salle, they wouldn’t have a chance at the playoffs after an 0-5 start. Pitt fans are extremely overconfident. Predicting a 3-5 team goes to NCS finals is ludacris!
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Killer D,
Just for fun / hypothetical, in a Healdsburg vs. Miramonte playoff game (I know they’re in separate divions this year), who would you like? Myself, if the game were in Orinda, I would predict the Mats to win by a TD. If it were in Healdsburg, would take the ‘Hounds by 1 or 2pts. (I’m having a little fun with this..Miramonte beat Healdsburg in the playoffs the last two years, 27-20 in a great game two years ago at Miramonte, and 30-28 against a young, upstart Mats team at Healdsburg’s Rec Park). Others can weigh in on this one too..
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
I like YV in the D3 playoffs this year but I don’t know how far they will get. I say second round maybe 3rd depending who they play. YV will have a tough task taking on this strong division.
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:46 pm
D1 1dela 2cal 3srv 4mv 5foothill 6granada 7pitt 8heritage 9logan 10berkeley 11dv 12san leandro 13freedom 14cp 15nm. Final four will be the top seeds making it all ebal. Deer valley will upset granada. Dela beats everyone by 3tds. d2 concord vs cotate in the finals concord winning. d3 1marin cath 2jets 3mats 4cardinal newman 5odowd 6eureka 7alhambra 8yv 9analy 10acalanes 11san rafael 12san marin 13novato 14campo 15moreau 16del norte. Marin beats c.newman n semis jets beat eureka. Round 3!
November 2nd, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Well said Panther4.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Moreau is DIII im pretty sure.
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
KillerD love the gutsy call on the D1 Championship!
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:29 pm
ARE THERE 15 OR 16 SPOTS FOR THE D-1 PLAYOFFS?
November 2nd, 2010 at 3:33 pm
There are 16 spots in D1, but is is likely that only 14 or 15 teams may qualify.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:07 pm
AND THAT IS BASED STRICTLY ON HAVING AMASSED AT LEAST A 5-5 RECORD OR CAN A TEAM GET IN BELOW A .500 RECORD?
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
You can also get in if you are .500 or above in just your league games. That is how Pitt is getting in.
November 2nd, 2010 at 4:14 pm
I guess Pitt would also qualify if they are league champs. It is a weird situation that a league champion would have a .500 overall record
November 2nd, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Teams qualify for the playoffs in one of 3 ways – .500 or better record overall, .500 or better record in their league or .500 or better record among games with teams in their division. For D-I, DLS, Cal, Monte Vista, SRV, Granada, Foothill, Deer Valley, Heritage, Logan, Berkeley and San Leandro have all got 5 or more wins, meaning they’re qualified. Pitt has 3 BVAL wins, so they will finish above .500 in league and they’re qualified. So as of today, those are the only 12 teams already qualified in D-I. Freedom and Newark Memorial both have 4 wins and will qualify with one more win. Freedom still has to play Liberty while Newark still has Irvington left on the schedule, games they should be able to win to get over the hump. That’s 14. College Park, sitting at 2-6 overall and 0-3 vs. D-I teams, is currently 1-2 in the DVAL. If they can beat both Mt. Diablo and Clayton Valley, they’ll finish 3-2 in league and will qualify. Any other teams would be a long shot to qualify in any category.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:27 pm
I understand the Eastbay Football Polls are just opinions but can someone explain to me how team 5-3 barely over .500 is ranked so high.
My thoughts are when you play teams in your league of equal size and student population and loss consistently you are not that good. The justification that they could beat smaller schools because they don’t have 2000-3000 students is a weak argument. Several of the EBAL team will finish 3rd or 4th in their league and still be ranked over 8-0 team. Feedback Welcomed!
I think that is a just an excuse and a way to make those school feel relevant. Win your games and get your rank. Period. Otherwise, the poll is just like the participation trophy you got for playing peewee soccer and apparently for existing and losing each week. We got smashed but we a still good. That’s Crap.
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
killerD……how do you have Encinal ranked over MC? MC beat this team by 4 Td’s last year and is undefeated this year and actually has more offensive weapons this year than they did last year, plus the line is huge on both sides and the depth is pretty ridiculous, just curious of what Encinal has done to bypass MC a team who beat them in the finals last year by 4 TD’s this year?
November 2nd, 2010 at 6:42 pm
encinal beat them in 08 as well and it should of been a blow out if encinal didnt turn the ball over 4 times in the red zone .. But MArin is a number 1, Encinal is number 2, miramonete 3, carinal newman 4 eureka 5, bishop o dowd 6.
November 2nd, 2010 at 7:04 pm
#45 ArmstrongJets wrote, “My thoughts are when you play teams in your league of equal size and student population and loss consistently you are not that good.” You are not that good in relation to your league but you could be better than higher ranked teams in a different, easier, league. The EBAL is considered one of the toughest leagues in the bay area. If you look at who the EBAL teams played preseason, and in most cases beat, you can then extrapolate who would win through common opponents. Is this always going to be correct? No, but it is the best that can be done unless everyone starts playing everyone else.
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Csparks actually in 2008 MC was winning in the final minutes if it werent a run back by Encinal and that BS personal foul that would have sealed the game for MC w/ a first down and MC wouldnt have had to punt it in the first place, but hey Encinal made the plays that year to win…that was a very good team……..this year I expect Encinal in the finals as well
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Outsider,
With DLS in the EBAL, I must give some credit to your comments. My question is on the rest of the EBAL. Here’s what happens in the playoff. I sure they were highly ranked in previous years. I would not be surprise if their football trophy case although quite bare (no league, ncs champonships) is full of their bay area ranking polls.
2009
cal 5-5 (1 & done ncs)
srv – 6-4 (1& done ncs)
mv – Qfinal – loss to DLS
2008
Cal 7-4 – loss to Pitt (2nd) round
SRV – loss to Pitt (3rd) round
Foothill – loss to DLS
2007
foothill 1 & done
mv – loss 2nd
cal – loss 3rd
I suggest playing the caliber of team that DLS play – put Grant, CalPoly etc on your schedule. Otherwise, the poll rank is all they have at the end of the season and that may be fine for their program
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Footballfan415, I was at that game between Encinal and Marin and Encinal took the lead at the beginning of the 4th quarter and never looked back. They scored twice and Marin scored once in the 4th. It was a great game between two great programs.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
ArmstrongJets, DLS has yet to play either Grant or Cal Poly. Just because a lot of EBAL teams end up knocking each other out in the playoffs doesn’t mean they aren’t good teams. So Cal losing in 2007 to DLS in the NCS finals at the Coliseum somehow makes them a bad team and that they were over rated that year? And I see you conveniently left out SRV from 2007, when they swept through the playoffs and won the NCS championship. Foothill in 2008 lost to DLS and MV lost to DLS in 2009? What is your point in even putting those down? If you think the Jets are better than EBAL teams,then do what Washington or Pitt did this year, and put some of them on your preseason schedule. And don’t just schedule Granada or Livermore either. Try the 4 you have named above, Cal, MV, SRV and Foothill, and you might as well try to set up a game with DLS while you’re at it. Then, we’ll see 3 or 4 losses pile up real quickly.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:28 pm
ArmstrongJets,
Think what you want. That the east bay prep journalists place all the EBAL teams at the top of the poll so the schools can place the polls in their otherwise empty trophy case. Who do you suggest should be placed higher in the poll who is not there? Pitt, Encinal, Mack? Do they play Grant and Long Beach Poly? No they played EBAL teams or teams that played EBAL teams and lost. That is why they are ranked whare they are.
November 2nd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
ArmstrongJets said, “The justification that they could beat smaller schools because they don’t have 2000-3000 students is a weak argument.” Why is this a weak arguement? If there wasn’t something to it then every school would play in the same division. A small-rostered team with loads of talent might do well initially but would eventually get beaten down by the larger-rostered teams throughout the season. They could possibly win a one-on-one at any given time but playing a whole season is something else.
November 2nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
If you are asking the same question to Logan, then who did heritage beat? the only team that pops out is Concord, and Logan… Montgomery and Navato aren’t good teams as they were a couple of years ago… so dont try to back that up with facts from previous years with all these titles they won… bull crap, obviously the newspaper ppl didn’t look at the past years, and how good these teams were… so neither should you… You guys obviously didnt look at Logans schedule, they played San Leanadro, Foothill Which are some really tough teams.. so to me both teams even out their strength in schedule.. both played equal amount of tough teams.. To me it can go either way..
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:02 pm
DLS, is not overated, but Ebal is, because of DlS…
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 pm
C.sparks,
Back up your statements with some facts. Unless you can, you statements are worthless.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:31 pm
The EBAL was a tough league before DLS joined 2 years ago. If you pull out DLS, the EBAL still goes 19-2 aganst other leagues in the preseason this year. 1 of those 2 losses was a 7 point loss to Serra, a team that beat Encinal by 29 points a week later. The only other EBAL loss was by the #7 team in the EBAL Amador to #3 ranked Concord 36-23, which was the Minutemen’s lowest point total of the year thus far.
BVAL Expert, Heritage did beat Logan, but they lost to Concord. They beat a traditionally strong Novato team which is very young and in a rebuilding mode as a average team this season. Logan beat San Leandro, but SL has not been a strong team this year either.
November 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Last year the EBAL was unlucky in the fact that Amador got hit with the injury bug late in the season which cost them big time against CP in the playoffs. They were a very solid squad, just unlucky at the end. Cal fair and square was beat by Washington in the playoffs which backed up the early season win over the Grizz. But Washington and Pitt lucked out that Foothill and MV had to play DLS. If MV doesn’t have that slide after losing to DLS in the regular season, they would have been #2 or #3 on the bottom half of the bracket and would have been in the finals.
The EBAL has always been strong, just always overshadowed by DLS even before they joined the league. That AV team back in 2004 was outstanding, just that DLS was playing incredibly well by then. The MV and SRV teams in 02 featuring Wright and Keller were great as well. SRV 05 with Louks and Helu Jr. The 06 Foothill Falcons, the 07 Cal Grizzlies. And depth wise those teams had to battle almost every week no matter how talented they were.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:04 am
I will say it again, what was Pitt’s record last year at the end of the season? 6-4. Who did they lose to in league? A Deer Valley Team that was undefeated. What side of the bracket were they on? Opposite DLS. Where did they end up? After crushing Deer Valley in a championship game, they lost in the finals to DLS.
Doesn’t anyone else see this coming?
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 am
you have got to b kidding me if u think piit will b seeded ahead of b high, to the pitt guy with the excuses, we went n the game wit our back up qb who starts safety so he had no time to rest, we had guys other guys that was injured and didnt play or was limited due to injury, no excuses we won.
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:32 am
a win is a win no matter when it comes…but if you ask anyone today no way bhigh beats pitt again. pitt was playing terrible with injuries early in the year. they do this everyear play terrible early on and struggle down the stretch…ebal teams get better committment out of theit players which makes them much stronger early in the year. but after going through a brutal league schedule by the time playoffs come around i think a lot of times they got less in the tank. as a whole they are very strong because they stay united (like the SEC), but in the one and done atmosphere of the playoffs idfferent story.
but seedings are irrelevant unless u are the opposite side of DLS…who cares where you are ranked it is just an ego thing. had a 10, 11, 14 advance past 1st round last year..and a 10 and 11 in semi’s…it is all about matchups.
washington controlled cal last year. cal dominated foothill last year, foothill dominated logan last year, logan beat washington last year. saying all that who is the better team??? one head to head game is not always a deciding factor. tteams play poorly one night, maybe a few injuries, the weather, who knows.
it is hard not to think pitt is a much better team at this point considering the league wins. i think there are a lot of teams i would consider much better at this point in the year than they have shows…
Pitt – got healthy figured out their personnel and gets 3 straight wins over formidable opponents…lost to MV, bhigh, and mac by a TD, not like they were blown out. only granite bay got them real good. foothill with the surprise attack.
MV – struggled with serra…then blown out by cal and DLS. but have righted ship and dominated solid AV and foothill squads. if they continue they are an easy choice for a #3 seed given the quality of wins. i would have to say if they played cal again it wouldnt be the same result, dont think they would beat them but definately not that same result
Washington – 4 straight wins after 0-4 brutal start. still played cal high the toughest of any opponent this year. had some injuries lost a heartbreaker to DV. then carried that over into a poorly played game vs AV. then capped it off with a murdourous game vs SRV. is SRV better than Cal high no way, but if you go off the scores vs washington they are. which leads me to believe that was a much different team fielded vs cal than SRV. offense seems to be clicking but must finish off ressurection season with a logan victory to prove worthy. but got to believe a much better team now than the team that played AV and SRV.
football season is not a sprint but rather a track meet. it is all about the endurance to the finish line and who is still standing. early season wins and losses many absolutley nothing once the playoffs start…so can claim we beat them 6 weeks ago so we are bette, be careful dont live off past victories because they may come up to bite you in the A** come playoff time.
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:51 am
D-III
San Rafael (8-0) has two games left against 3-5 Terra Linda and 1-7 Justin Siena. Even though it’s common thought that they haven’t played anyone, if they finish 10-0 they will get a top seed.
1. Marin Catholic (10-0) MCAL co-League Champs
2. San Rafael (10-0) MCAL co-League Champs
3. Miramonte (9-1) DFAL League Champs
4. Bishop O’Dowd (9-1) HAAL League Champs
5. Encinal (8-1) BSAL League Champs (I think Albany will be declared no contest)
6. Cardinal Newman (7-3)
7. Eureka (6-2) Big 3 League Champs
8. Ygnacio Valley (6-4)
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:39 am
does anyone give SAN LEANDRO a shot over BOD
or will the PIRATE claim another championship
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:40 am
To answer some questions posted about my Playoff predictions going into week 9, of course my choices are subject to change after this week’s games and NO Refunds are allowed, read at your own peril………
D1: YES, that is correct I am picking CALIFORNIA HIGH SCHOOL TO BE VICTORIOUS IN THE D1 FINALS AGAINST DLS, AND YOUNG HEAD COACH BELICCI TO EARN AN NCS TITLE AND COACH OF THE YEAR HONORS. HE IS WORKING WONDERS IN SAN RAMON.
WHY will Cal win in the playoffs but lose against DLS in Week 10?
Cal will make some mistakes in Week 10, the players will be a little uptight and DLS will come out on top by 10 points or less. But, four weeks later Cal will have video to review on how DLS played them and the players will no longer be in awe of DLS and those errors will be corrected. Cal wins the NCS title by 14 points or more and advances to State title game.
D2: I like Concord’s gunslinger Lloyd at Qb. It will be fun to watch him throw for 2,000,000,000 yards in the playoffs and set new Universal passing records. Can the Minutemen win it all? D2 is interesting and the luster might stay on for a while but it will tarnish if Concord gets the boot to early. The NCS elite administrators are secretly hoping Lloyd can transfer to Any team still alive if Concord gets eliminated it what will be known to future generations as “Ricky’s Rule” for extra late senior D1 transfer Qb’s that help sell playoff tickets.
D3: I choose Encinal based on coaches reports and my conversataions with them and it is impossible to simulate Encinal’s offensive team spead for ANY team in the bay area at any level. ANY team.
Moreau will make the playoffs with a 5-4-1 record but if they could have managed their PAT’s better they would have defeated San Lorenzo earlier this year.
The MC squad is outstanding but the MCAL is downright embarrassing this year, and the socialist rule that the bottom cellar dwellars in that league get to play patsy schedules is an affront to acctuaries worldwide.
A matchup that I/Me/Myself/Yo consider MORE intriguing if we can make it happen via a large group channeling our thoughts is ENCINAL vs. Bishop Odowd and the great job Nickerson has done this year. That would be enticing to watch on a rainy or cold clear night.
Jets will battle Eureka and Cardinal Newman (down this year) or BOD, and eventually end up in the title game. Then vs. MC the Jets players will get behind, trail midway through 3rd quarter and then explode for 28 points and win by 14.
D4: It is rare that other than DLS in D1, to have another team stay on Top of their division rankings like Healdsburg has done in D4 since early August. Healdsburg nasty battle upcoming vs. El Molino this weekend and ELM is very good. St. Patricks has dropped down to 3rd in the CalPreps power rankings in D4 which is absurd because St. Patricks Beat Salesian and the Chieftans have two losses already.
I predict Piedmont and Valley Christian will each finish 4-6 and make the playoffs due to a harsh strength of schedule for both compared to St. Helena or Clear Lake.
D5: When is the last time CSD-Fremont made the Playoffs? I don’t know but Go Eagles!!!!!!!!
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:08 am
Outsider
Good points. My counter position is that the SEC is considered one of the better College Football Conferences, however if they lose they ranked based on their record. Really, 5-3. Not what I consider a record of success, regardless of the team or who they played.
BCS W-L
1 Oregon 8-0
2 Auburn 9-0
3 TCU 9-0
4 Boise State 7-0
5 Utah 8-0
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 am
FB Guru no San Rafael has a deal in their league that the worst team from the year before doesn’t have to play the top 2 from the previous year (Novato, MC) so I’m not sure but I believe that makes them ineligible for the league title. How can they be Co-League champs with MC with that deal?
I heard the Albany game was officially ruled a forfeit. The NCS rules state that its the home teams responisblity to supply refs & trainer & if they don’t its due negligence or something like that. If they don’t make every effort to make up the game which they didn’t it will go down as a forfeit. NCS rules state you can play 2 games in 8 days. They chose not to so its a forfeit.
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am
I think that SL has a shot over BOD at home. Its do or die. I don’t know if BOD is playing with that kind of urgency.
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
ArmstrongJets,
I think there is a difference between the east bay preps writer’s poll and the BCS. The writer’s try to take into account the strength of the league, the division played in, etc. I am pretty sure if De La Salle had lost to Bishop Gorman they would still be ranked number one in the writer’s poll even though there are some undefeated teams. DLS is Division 1 which gives them an edge over smaller division schools, they have a superior strength of schedule, they have a legacy that is unmatched by anyone. Many of the EBAL schools are not on DLS’s level but still have fairly long records of winning. Monte Vista and San Ramon Valley to name two. Both of those teams have won league or made it to the semi-finals in NCS many times in the past.
November 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Hey Reggie I have been busy with a company to run and all but here is my input on the Northbay.
1.Marin Catholic gets the number 1 seed in D III they are the current D III Champ last years bowl rep for D III and will finish the season 10-0 PLUS the Mark Tennis factor he has been high on MC before the season started and get to present at the seeding meeting.
2. San Rafael will also finish 10-0 but I think the strength of schedule is so bad that the seeding commitee will see through there record. So I would but them at 7 behind all the league Champs. Unless someone other than Miramonte wins the DFAL it may be hard to give a team with 2 losses a higher seed.
3. Eureka has lost 2 very close games and are still a team to be concered about after being D II the last couple of seasons I see them a the number 3 seed becuase of there history.
4. Cardinal Newman will finish the season 7-3 and is by far the best 7-3 team you will see all there losses are to major power house schools and they have a great win over Central Catholic they cannot win there league but they could very well be there in the Championship games is at 6.
5. Novato I dont think it matters what seed they are anywhere from 11-15 they will done in the first round. The offence is commiting way to many penalties and cannot move the ball. The defence is just plain worn out after being on the field 30 min. plus in a 48 min. game. Look for Novato next year.
6. San Marin congrats to San Marin for a huge win over Novato but they are also an 11-15 seed and done in round 1.
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
Hay perkin u suck bod beat hayward 47 27 Sl beat them by 1 point if you were smart u would put the numbers together and sit back and watch a blow out
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:41 am
But anyways what is with granada they are way to over rated once the twins leave granada. Will be lost
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:42 am
Armstrongjets, you are sounding pretty rediculous. As Outsider stated the BCS is based on all schools in the same division. Your logic would say that a 7-1 UC Davis team should be ranked above a 5-3 Oregon state team. When in reality Oregon state would win by 50. You can’t compare records of teams that don’t play in the same division. I am tired of hearing all this business about smaller schools wanting to be ranked above bigger schools based on wins. This poll isn’t about the best records, it is about the best teams. As another poster stated above, roll the dice next year and get a few of the good EBAL teams on your schedule, beat them and then talk. Until then drop the nonsensical comparisons.
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:43 am
Panther4 this is high school not college
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:03 am
BOD cocky as ever. When is the last time you went to Burrel & beat SL? Its been a while I know you have a new coach but history is history. Get it done. The bottom line is BOD & Hayward are 2 very average programs. Can’t wait to see you in the play-offs. You get Campo or Novato first round you lose.
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:15 am
Footballman, I understand that this is high school and not college. That was my point. Armstrongjets was trying to compare the BCS rankings to the Times football poll. Go back and read post 66 and you will understand what I meant.
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:15 am
Well im a 97 alum and we went all the way this team is very similar to ours we were underrestimated and we won
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:16 am
Im srry for that i did not read my fault
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
Bishop O’Dowd will beat the hell out of San Leandro and win the HAAL.
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 am
I very much agree with juswatch
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 am
Encinal vs ODowd in the playoffs would be a good one to watch.
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 am
Football season Is so fun.
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:24 am
Encinal vs ODowd in the playoffs would be a good one to watch. What do you think Footballman?
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:24 am
I agree who do you think will win
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:26 am
I personally think Encinal would win but I think ODowd will give them a good game.
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:28 am
The jets have speed and are very good at offensive with the run and o dowd defense is unstoppable and stops the run but odowds offensive is strong they put up point but it will be a 3 point win in my belief
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:29 am
Who would win ODowd?
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:31 am
I dnt know probably odowd defesive wins games
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:43 am
Panther4 – The comparison is not mine. It the writers.
The smaller schools have to win to be ranked. Unfortunately, all you have to do in the EBAL is exist, which most of them do with a few exceptions.
By the way – look at the team in the state ranking and let the EBAL schedule those teams if you want be anything but the Heartbreakers to Tom (DLS).
Always the bridesmaid, never the Bride.
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:55 am
Killer D,
Not sure if you saw my question (posting #33 – East Bay Poll 11/1) re: a mythical Healdsburg-Miramonte playoff game. Your thoughts / take?
Thx
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 am
ArmstrongJets,
If there were multiple polls, based on division, then the smaller schools would be ranked high in their division depending on their record. When there is only one poll then the writers need to take other things into account. It is debateable whether a 5-3 Monte Vista would beat a 7-1 Encinal. They have a common opponent in Serra where Monte Vista barely lost and Encinal was beaten soundly. This provides some of the basis for the rankings.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Just clear up some confusion: Piedmont will not be 4-6 at the end of the season, because they will not beat Moreau. Look at the head to head schedule. Moreau has beaten every team by more or lost by less to common opponents. I am not convinced that Piedmont will beat Kennedy. Moreau will beat Piedmont for its sixth win.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Armstrong, what are you talking about with State rankings and who is Tom? EBAL teams aren’t ranked because they exist. They beat the hell out of non league then beat each other in league. Encinal has one good opponent this year and they were beaten soundly. You don’t make sense with you posts. Also, every team in California were bridesmaids last year to De La. Get MV SRV Cal or Foothill on the schedule next year, otherwise you got no argument.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Bleacher do you stand by your previous COCKY comment that North Bay owns D-III????
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Can you atleast say Encinal is better then you gave their program credit for? St. Pats will beat them. Way closer games this year may get upset by St. Mary’s. Come on man.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Mark Tennis posted this on espnrise this is through week 8. Week 9 should be posted tomorrow. Mr .Tennis pulls alot of weight in the NCS seeding meetings so I find it interesting the he has O’Dowd and Cardinal Newman rated higher than the Jets. Could the Jets fall to the 4th seed?
CIF DIVISION III NORTH
1. (1) Marin Catholic (Kentfield) 8-0
2. (2) Union Mine (El Dorado) 7-0
3. (4) Bishop O’Dowd (Oakland) 6-1
4. (5) Cardinal Newman (Santa Rosa) 5-2
5. (7) Carmel 6-1
6. (8) Encinal (Alameda) 6-1
7. (9) Monterey 6-1
8. (10) North Monterey County (Castroville) 7-1
9. (3) Lassen (Susanville) 6-2
10. (NR) Jefferson (Daly City) 6-1
On the Bubble: Escalon 6-1, Healdsburg 6-2, Livingston 6-2, Menlo School (Atherton) 5-2, Miramonte (Orinda) 7-1, Salesian (Richmond) 5-2, Seaside 5-2, St. Patrick-St. Vincent (Vallejo) 6-1, Wheatland 7-1.
Notes & Highlights
•Ezekiel Nunu had to take over at quarterback for Jefferson of Daly City due to an injury and responded with two touchdown runs as the Indians rallied for a 14-13 win over previous No. 6 Menlo School of Atherton. Jefferson, which is well-known for being the alma mater of coaching legend John Madden, lost its only game by one point on Sept. 11 to San Marin of Novato.
•Previous No. 3 Lassen’s loss was 17-0 to D2 North powerhouse Paradise. Combined with Menlo losing, that allowed Carmel to jump two spots up to No. 5. The Padres have overcome their own loss to Menlo by winning big in recent weeks, including one by 51-14 over Monterey.
•Cardinal Newman also is getting closer to the top. The Cardinals, who lost their games to D1 Valley Christian of San Jose and D1 Palma but have a win over D4 Central Catholic, took apart Montgomery of Santa Rosa 42-9 in their latest outing.
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Cardinal Newman just lost to Rancho Cotate
November 3rd, 2010 at 12:55 pm
EBfootball yes I know thats why I said that was through week 8 and week 9 would be posted tomorrow read the whole thing please
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
I doubt it if he’s on the panel that votes on D-III thats one thing to say that his rankings wil be the same as NCS seedings isn’t accurate. The coaches rankings I heard carries a lot of weight.
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
PERKIN it is my understanding that Mr. Tennis is not on the voting board but he does give a seeding presention to the board. He is one of the select few that is allowed in the closed door meeting and his opions do matter.
November 3rd, 2010 at 1:42 pm
so annoying hearing all the ridiculous d3 and encinal posts…schedule up (other than just serra) and most importantly win a game vs a ranked opponent please, then argue your ranking…
until they do..encinal is a great D3 team, but sorry that is it. favorites for the D3 title game does not mean you are ready to take on the EBAL…heck they wouldn’t even be the favorites in D2.
lets compare d2 to d3
your #1 Marin catholic struggled with d2 los lomas this year who probably won’t even be a top 10 seed if seeded at all.
your #2 according to cal preps cardinal newman lost to d2 rancho cotate…
your #3 miramonte lost to los lomas (see above)…
your #4 Encinal has 1 win vs a d2 opponent or higher and that is alameda only 27-12, which was vs a team that may not even make the playoffs and if they do will be a 14-16 seed…
your #6 alhambra lost 33-14 to a D2 dublin team who has only 2 wins on the year and is currently ranked #19 in d2…
based on this i think YV and O’Dowd should be in your top 3 if you even want a chance vs d2…they are the only ones with plus victories other than MC beating bhigh, but d2 #2 pinole beat bhigh too.
so not sure where all the D3 faithful keep talking that they are so much better than d2…the only thing d3 is better at is talking…they may be deeper 1-16, but the top 8 in d2 would beat the top 8 in d3 head to head…
please give me one argument of how D3 is so much better or more entertaining than D2…other than Encinal being the fastest team on the planet vs a bunch of d3 and d4 opponents…no disrespect to encinal because they are a great program but they are what they are a great D3 program.
November 3rd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
I doubt a Division 1 team would even consider scheduling a Division 3 team since if the Division 1 team won then it would not help their standing much but if they lost it would hurt them badly.
November 3rd, 2010 at 2:24 pm
FB Guru, apparently both San Rafael and Redwood are going to forfeit this week’s games as a punishment for their brawl last week. No way they end up higher than a 7 seed now.
November 3rd, 2010 at 2:27 pm
KillerD, no argument that Moreau’s tie with San Lorenzo hurts them. My point was that if you have Piedmont and Encinal beating them, there’s no way they end up seeded over Campolindo, and I doubt they’d get seeded over Novato. They may not even get in over Del Norte, El Cerrito or even Kennedy. I think they need to beat Piedmont this week to lock up a bid.
November 3rd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
outsider you dont know jack Novato has played Foothill of the EBAL for the last 5 seasons. This season Novato played Hertiage ,Foothill and Bellermine all DI schools. Get your facts straight before start spouting off
November 3rd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
HS Football where did you hear that? I cant see that happening because it is a penalty to the school they where supposed to play as well
November 3rd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Here’s the story on the Marin Independent Journal’s site:
http://www.marinij.com/prepcentral/ci_16503620
November 3rd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
It was in the Marin IJ. For some reason I can’t seem to post the link…
November 3rd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Plenty of D-I vs. D-III non conference games already this year. Berkeley/Marin Catholic, Heritage/Novato, Heritage/Kennedy(F), Liberty/Miramonte, College Park/Alhambra just to name a few…
November 3rd, 2010 at 3:21 pm
BleacherCoach,
I stand corrected. Novato plays three tough games in their preseason.
November 3rd, 2010 at 4:04 pm
ok ESPNRISE posted week 9 Div III bowl stuff today so here it is
CIF DIVISION III NORTH
1. (1) Marin Catholic (Kentfield) 9-0
2. (3) Bishop O’Dowd (Oakland) 7-1
3. (5) Carmel 7-1
4. (6) Encinal (Alameda) 7-1
5. (7) Monterey 7-1
6. (2) Union Mine (El Dorado) 7-1
7. (9) Lassen (Susanville) 7-2
8. (4) Cardinal Newman (Santa Rosa) 5-3
9. (8) North Monterey County (Castroville) 7-1
10. (10) Jefferson (Daly City) 7-1
On the Bubble: Escalon 8-1, Colfax 7-2, Healdsburg 6-2, Livingston 7-2, Miramonte (Orinda) 7-1, Salesian (Richmond) 6-2, Sacred Heart Prep (Atherton) 7-1, St. Patrick-St. Vincent (Vallejo) 7-1, Wheatland 8-1.
Notes & Highlights
•This division became more difficult to decipher as one of the last two unbeatens, previous No. 2 Union Mine, dropped its first game 10-7 to Vista del Lago of Folsom. While Vista del Lago is in the same league as the Diamondbacks, it is a bigger school. Union Mine also has several quality wins so dropping the team all the way out of the top 10 was not warranted.
•Even with Carmel going up to No. 3, the likelihood that the CIF bowl game berth in this division will go to whichever team wins the CIF North Coast Section 2A title remains solid. Marin Catholic has been dominant while others that should be in that NCS bracket are Bishop O’Dowd, Encinal, Cardinal Newman and Miramonte. If the Wildcats falter in the playoffs, the team they lose to would probably be next in line to be chosen. Cardinal Newman lost last week 27-21 to Rancho Cotate of Rohnert Park, but like Union Mine that is a bigger school playing in the same league.
•Since no other teams outside of Union Mine and Cardinal Newman lost, there was no room to move up any newcomers into the top 10. Wheatland posted a signature 13-12 win over longtime league nemisis Sutter and may be the next team in. The Pirates’ lone loss is to Lincoln, but they also have a win over Colfax.
November 3rd, 2010 at 4:12 pm
I dont know but to me it looks like the Jets are getting no respect what so ever if O’Dowd is being rated above them. Is it the Nickerson factor?
November 3rd, 2010 at 4:39 pm
BOD is ovverated….i mean they are legit, but no way they are better than Encinal…….but their improvement is impressive
November 3rd, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Week 9 CIF DIVISION I NORTH from ESPNRISE
1. (1) De La Salle (Concord) 8-0
2. (2) Valley Christian (San Jose) 8-0
3. (4) California (San Ramon) 8-0
4. (5) Bellarmine (San Jose) 7-1
5. (3) Pleasant Grove (Elk Grove) 8-1
6. (6) Palo Alto 8-0
7. (8) Monterey Trail (Elk Grove) 6-3
8. (7) Franklin (Elk Grove) 8-1
9. (11) Napa 8-1
10. (12) Palma (Salinas) 7-0-1
11. (15) San Ramon Valley (Danville) 5-3
12. (9) Serra (San Mateo) 5-2-1
13. (NR) Lincoln (Stockton) 6-3
14. (NR) Granite Bay 6-3
15. (NR) Monte Vista (Danville) 5-3
On the Bubble: Archbishop Mitty (San Jose) 4-3-1, Foothill (Pleasanton) 6-3, Granada (Livermore) 5-3, Oak Ridge (El Dorado Hills) 7-2, Piedmont Hills (San Jose) 7-1, St. Francis (Mountain View) 4-3-1.
Notes & Highlights
•De La Salle remains in command of this group, but the Spartans probably will face No. 3 California in a 9-0 vs. 9-0 matchup of unbeaten teams in two weeks to decide the East Bay Athletic League title.
•Previous No. 3 Pleasant Grove only dropped two spots in this division since its loss was to Folsom, one of the top teams in D2 North.
•Monterey Trail and Franklin flipped spots for a good reason. The Mustangs edged the Wildcats 37-36 and handed them their first loss. Drake Tofi, who also shined when Monterey Trail nearly upset national power Grant three weeks ago, was even better against Franklin. He rushed for 293 yards on 39 carries and scored four touchdowns.
•Previous No. 10 Turlock suffered perhaps the upset of the year so far in the state as it lost 17-10 to Atwater, which had not yet won this season. Turlock’s only loss coming into the game was by just one point to Buhach Colony of Atwater, which is another top D2 North squad.
http://rise.espn.go.com/football/articles/2010/California/11/03-CIF-State-Bowl-Game-Rankings.aspx?pursuit=Football
November 3rd, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Week 9 CIF DIVISION II NORTH from ESPNRISE
1. (1) Grant (Sacramento) 9-0
2. (2) Folsom 8-1
3. (3) St. Mary’s (Stockton) 8-1
4. (4) Vacaville 8-1
5. (5) Buhach Colony (Atwater) 9-0
6. (8) Foothill (Palo Cedro) 9-0
7. (NR) Del Oro (Loomis) 5-4
8. (9) Del Campo (Fair Oaks) 7-2
9. (10) Inderkum (Sacramento) 8-1
10. (NR) Manteca 9-0
On the Bubble: Casa Grande (Petaluma) 7-1, Concord 7-1, McClymonds (Oakland) 8-0, Paradise 8-1, Patterson 8-1, Pioneer (Woodland) 8-1, River City (West Sacramento) 9-0, Rocklin 6-3, Roseville 6-3.
Notes & Highlights
•With Folsom posting its big win over Pleasant Grove, the top five teams in this division should be staying put until the playoffs. All five should be in the CIF Sac-Joaquin Section Div. II field, too.
•The major upheaval is due to the competitive nature of all the teams in the Sierra Foothill League. Previous No. 6 Roseville lost 31-21 to Del Oro while previous No. 7 Rocklin lost 42-41 to Granite Bay.
•Two of Del Oro’s four losses are to powerhouses Bishop Gorman of Las Vegas and Clovis West of Fresno. The Golden Eagles have turned it around with Bobby Heatherington at quarterback, who completed 12 of 18 passes for 150 yards and two scores vs. Roseville. Kenny Andri also had 20 carries for 135 yards and one touchdown. The team’s other quarterback, Max Magleby, starred against Roseville as well on defense. He blocked a punt and came up with a clutch interception in the second half.
•Del Oro projects to be in the Sac-Joaquin Div. III playoffs and considered its strength of schedule would be tough to beat. Another in that field should be Manteca, which improved to 9-0 with a 35-27 triumph over Oakdale. Under head coach Eric Reis, the Buffaloes have won three section titles since 2001.
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:39 pm
All I know is NCS D3 is going to be one helluva playoff bracket. I can’t remember a year where it was this stacked with solid football squads. I am going to stick with MC until someone finds a way to beat them. They are a solid squad with some good size players. My dark horse in D3 is CN. I know they just had a tough loss to Cotate, but the team is battle tested and that definitely can help in the playoffs.
November 3rd, 2010 at 5:45 pm
And KillerD that is a gutsy pick to say the least, especially given the fact that over the years DLS has been much tougher to play the 2nd time around in a season if they have a rematch. I would say Cal’s chances are higher in the regular season than the post season. I am pretty sure MV did it in 1987 by losing to DLS first time and then beating them in the finals. Also believe Pitt accomplished the same feat in 91, by beating DLS in their 2nd meeting of the year in the NCS finals. I may be wrong on those, but I am pretty sure that is correct. So maybe history is on Cal’s side there as it seems DLS is vulnerable in a 2nd meeting in the finals. Hmmm….it’s going to be a real interesting week on this board leading into the game in a week.
November 3rd, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Cal still has to play at Foothill this week, and that is no easy game. But even if Cal loses to Foothill, the EBAL title would still be on the line vs. DLS, just not the perfect regular season. And of course DLS still must fend off the challenge from Livermore.
November 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Any predictions on Casa Grande vs Windsor (at Windsor) Friday night?
November 3rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
SclAlum, to answer your question about a Hypothetical game between Healdsburg and Miramonte and Yes understanding their recent big games history. Healdsburg wins at Home and Miramonte wins at Home. Both teams equal, but a field goal difference for home field advantage.
Encinal vs. BOD: the chatter amongst Jets and Dragon supporters is sizzling. I believe it would be one of the best games at any level. Who would win? Jets would win at home but toss up at BOD if it is a Day game, that would mean the Jets would be in their standard Day game Malaise and slow to awaken because they are a different animal at night, fierce and nasty.
To Red Raider’s statement of Moreau will defeat Piedmont: Mariners have a better defense and attack this year over the Highlanders. But upon further review Piedmont has played a far tougher schedule than Moreau and Mariners have yet to face Encinal. Piedmont must win to get into playoffs but Moreau will get in with a 5-4-1 record. My call is Piedmont by 10 points based on strength of schedule and the fact St. Patricks hung 49 points of them but only put 28 on Piedmont, both recent games.
DLS vs. Cal High in the NCS Title Game: Assuming Cal defeats all comers and goes into Showdown week with the Only loss a week 10 bruiser to DLS, then Cal high will have had penty of time to recover, win and build and revamp for DLS in the final. Cal high is approaching a SHEER physical presence rarely seen in NorCal football. This year Bishop Gorman of Nevada, a team not nearly what it was last year, held DLS to 28 points. Cal high has the OL to sustain LONG drives via the run and some pass, and Cal high has the Big, strong fast defense to put a Python Grip on any team in the state, even DLS.
I would guess now if both teams win out in the playoffs, it would be Cal 28 vs. DLS 20 in Finals.
November 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 pm
some sensationalist writing there killerD. While Cal is playing very physical, to say they are approaching a physical presence rarely seen in NorCal might be a bit of an overstatement. The top WCAL teams, DLS, some of the great Pitt, SL, and Logan teams and many of the top SJS teams over the years such as Grant, Del Oro, Nevada Union have all featured suffocating, hard hitting defenses.
November 4th, 2010 at 12:39 am
I agree Renegades. While Cal has played very physical this year, to say they are approaching a physical presence rarely seen in NorCal is a bit of a stretch.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:29 am
HS FB Fan, I was curious if Redwood and San Rafael would be punished. I hadn’t seen any information on these blogs but making both teams sit is the right decision IMHO. This will drop San Rafael out of the top 6 in Div III.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:42 am
Killerd- you are comparing Cal to BG? wow.
DLS has given up 8 TD’s this year.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Recall from my literati above…….I said Cal high is approaching a physical presence RARELY seen in NorCal football.
Rarely would thereby encompass ALL of those great teams some of you mentioned and other squads fondly recalled in memoirs and respectfully honored for their dominance tallied.
I for one am happy to see fresh blood on the scene and am hoping Cal high if they win out can break the streak of DLS. I admire DLS immensely, I just believe it would be good for a public school to win D1 in NCS.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Bleachercoach what are you a parent that sits in the bleacher and thinks he knows everything Bod may not play in the greatest league but they are very good they got talent having Coach Nickerson has nothing tbo do with the rating come on u know that what is he paying people to place Bod higher i mean really theres allot of profesional ex football players as coaches the only reason your getting at Bod is becausebthere doing good and your trying to find some excuse.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Football415 you probably play in san fransico so of course or going to hate Bod what are you saying Bod is overated let me ask you from What i know enicinal has a great run game right well Bod is 3 in run they would stop them defensive wins games.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:18 am
Footballman, I like BOD this year and I think they can match well with Encinal. Both teams play really good defense and Encinal has a explosive offense and ODowd plays good offense. It would be a good game no doubt. I just think Encinal has many weapons on Offense and gets good games from a differnt player every week.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Thank you for a respectful answer mandown as a Bod alum i go have to go for Odowd but yes it would not be a blow out it would be a field goal game and i beleave odowd would win.
November 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Footballman shutup! Until BOD plays a quality opponent then we can determine if they are the REAL DEAL
November 4th, 2010 at 9:29 am
really babyhitler i mean really
November 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
KillerD, stay strong in your position, the Cal kids are a tough, strong bunch who know how to win. If they can stay focused on this week’s challenge the DLS showdown will be fun. I also think it will be interesting to see how sharp De La is after they roll over Livermore – is it better for a team to come off an easy victory or a competitive game when facing a tough opponent the following week?
November 4th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I am rooting for Cal too and I believe they have the talent, conditioning and game plan to win. I am a little worried that they have not really had a hard game this season since Washington and so are not battle-tested like De La Salle. If it is a close, hard-fought game I have to give the edge to De La Salle because they have been there. But as Monarch86 said De La Salle has not had any tough games since Bishop Gorman. This Cal team is the one that beat De La Salle at the JV level, which usually doesn’t happen, so they know it can be done, they just need to continue to believe even when things get tough.
November 4th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Cal will be a tough opponent for DLS no doubt.
One thing the Grizzley players might find a challenge is their memory of the jamboree at Pitt HS this summer. DLS dominated Cal that night.
November 4th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
DLS had to slug one out against SRV when they were not at their usual level so to say they haven’t had a tough game since BG would not be true. I think playing Livermore is fine, they will play some series, stay game ready, if score gets big fast they will come out fast and it will give an opportunity to get some guys healthy. I think it will be a great game, and Cal has the ability to win the game this year I just thought that the comment of approaching a sheer physical presence rarely seen in NorCal was an overstatement.
November 4th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Encinal on any given night can have a great game by jon trodder, if not him jonathen allen, if not him naim pascal, if not him paul okamura, or vee, or banks? waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy tooo many weapons.. not to mention stud meno….. all those guys are d1 or d1aa talent… i dont see how O dowd stopping them atleast.. marin is the only team caplable of beating them.. i can wait too see this brackett, oh yeah and miramonte… QB,,,, pshhh watch out for this kid.. i am telling you guys.. HE IS A STAR IN THE MAKING!!.. you will see
November 4th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
R10- one game at a time… Saturday will come soon enough.
November 4th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
I said it earlier… Cal is primed to get DeLa this year… I’ll certainly be there…
November 6th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
renegades 10 is a BOD hater the Dragons just mached down to Burrell Field and handed San Leandro their first loss to BOD in over 10 years, clinching the league title as well. The Pirates were intimidated by o’dowd’s defense, which stepped up big with 2 defensive td’s in the second half. SL choked under pressure and BOD’d offense handled their business. Odowd is capable of doing big things in the playoffs
November 6th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
renegades 10 is a BOD hater the Dragons just marched down to Burrell Field and handed San Leandro their first loss to BOD in over 10 years, clinching the league title as well. The Pirates were intimidated by o’dowd’s defense, which stepped up big with 2 defensive td’s in the second half. SL choked under pressure and BOD’d offense handled their business. Odowd is capable of doing big things in the playoffs
November 6th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Not hating to say that I don’t think they have earned a ranking yet. Good for them to beat SL, but don’t forget Logan went to Burrell field and shut out SL and Arroyo went there two weeks ago and beat them as well. So it’s not like BOD accomplished this incredible feat. Congrats to the Dragons on the league title, but I will say it again the HAAL is awful this year. And BOD’s non-league wins were over a bad Alameda team and a really bad Skyline team. Their loss is to a two win Saint Ignatius team. Nothing about that says this team should be ranked in the top 15. If they go out to what will be the most competitive NCS bracket this year in D3 and knock off some teams, then and only then should they be considered a top 15 team imo.