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East Bay football poll — 11/15
By Jimmy Durkin
Monday, November 15th, 2010 at 3:51 pm in East Bay Football, East Bay Poll.
Here’s the final East Bay football poll until the end of the postseason. Enjoy.
| Team | Record | Points | Last week | Comment |
| 1. De La Salle (7) | 10-0 | 105 | 1 | Spartans complete first unbeaten regular season since 2007 |
| 2. California | 9-1 | 98 | 2 | Grizzlies give DLS its strongest challenge of the season |
| 3. Concord | 9-1 | 91 | 3 | Ricky Lloyd leads Concord to outright DVAL title |
| 4. Monte Vista | 7-3 | 83 | 4 | Bryce McGovern’s four TDs pace win over rival SRV |
| t5. Encinal | 9-1 | 73 | 5 | Jets remain unbeaten in three seasons in the BSAL |
| t5. McClymonds | 10-0 | 73 | 6 | OAL champions cap perfect regular season with shutout win |
| 7. Foothill | 6-4 | 63 | 7 | Falcons beat rival Amador Valley in defensive showdown |
| 8. Pinole Valley | 9-0-1 | 57 | 9 | Undefeated Spartans enter NCS as No. 2 seed in Div. II |
| 9. San Ramon Valley | 5-5 | 48 | 8 | A tie for sixth in EBAL is good for No. 6 seed in NCS Div. I |
| 10. James Logan | 8-2 | 40 | 10 | Colts handle Washington to win second straight MVAL title |
| 11. Granada | 6-4 | 34 | 11 | Matadors stop late two-point conversion to hold off Livermore |
| 12. Bishop O’Dowd | 9-1 | 27 | 12 | One-loss season nets only No. 7 seed in NCS Div. III |
| t13. Heritage | 8-2 | 15 | 13 | Patriots edge Deer Valley to take second place in BVAL |
| t13. Miramonte | 9-1 | 15 | 15 | Matadors throttle Alhambra to win DFAL championship |
| 15. Pittsburg | 5-5 | 13 | NR | BVAL champs are .500 overall for first time this season |
Also receiving votes: Berkeley (7-3, 6 points). Records are through Saturday. The East Bay poll is voted upon by the prep sports staff of the Bay Area News Group-East Bay.
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November 16th, 2010 at 8:32 am
Im pretty sure that Foothill can beat Encinal and McClymonds, no problem… also im pretty sure San Ramon can beat Pinole as well… These OAL and ACCL teams havent played someone really good from the east bay area… Even though Mac played Pittsburg…. Pitt is the league champs.. but they arent as powerful as they once were.. you cant really argue about that, its a straight up fact..
November 16th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Nobody but the machine, [DLS] could handle MACK. Too strong, too powerful, too Fast and Physical, Mack Family on me, Mack Family on three! MACK FAMILY
November 16th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Your kidding right? hahahahahh thats a pretty ignorant statement
November 16th, 2010 at 8:54 am
How is his statement ignorant and your a “fact”? You start your post with “I’m pretty sure….” and you end it with “its a straight up fact.” I guess you did a great job of convincing yourself while writing that post, huh? In fact, you don’t know who could beat who….you’re assuming. So nothing is factual. Saying, we could beat you because we beat that theam, and that team beat you…..is something that my Little Leaguers say?
November 16th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Mack you dont want any part of Cal or Concord ask the head coaches of the teams they have beat or even seen film, those teams like you are having special years. It’s time for you to enjoy the season your having and stop blasting away at others. My suggestion is offer to play anybody anywhere, even extend 2 year away away deals, because a lot of the good teams don’t want to deal with OAL officials or transportation suddenly being pulled.
November 16th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Can’t deny that Foothill might beat Encinal but I’d love to see it. Saw them play Granada. Think Encinal has a good chance. Foothill have any openings? Lets make that happen! Novato’s had their chance time to go new Coach Sweeney.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Triton- How can you stick up for a school that plays no one that good? my statement was more reliable then
“Nobody but the machine, [DLS] could handle MACK. Too strong, too powerful, too Fast and Physical, Mack Family on me, Mack Family on three! MACK FAMILY”
Are you kidding me Triton… everybody needs to stop talking about OAL and ACCL and Encinal teams having a chance against EBAL teams.. These leagues all they do is talk crap, and dont back it up, Typical Oakland schools.. There is no way in hell.. How about you back it up and schedule a game with them, then we will see if they are capable.. Sick and tired of the talks with these schools… and im not assuming, its a FACT.. EBAL’s are way to powerful.. Saying:
“We could beat you because we beat that them, and that team beat you” is how you compare teams and what they are capable of doing, its totally reliable and has not failed.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:46 am
This is who Mack played:
Ferndale bad
Pittsburg pretty good
Mcckinlyville bad
Richmond bad
Marshall bad
Salesian terrible
Pinole played:
Irvington bad
Rancho Catate good
Seqoia bad
Oakland Tech bad
Encinal played:
Serra Great
El Cerrito Bad
Swett Bad
piedmont Bad
Alameda descent
yea going to have to do alot better if you want to even get mentioned into the same sentence as EBAL teams.. with these kind of out of league schdules
November 16th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
when are the cal srv monte vista gonna play the top teams from sjs like grant rocklin? play them how about bellarmine or valley christian! i know they played mitty & serra but we all know bells & v.c are more often than not the top 2 from wcal. grant would tare you guys apart!
November 16th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Hey BVAL fan, all things equal Foothill cannot beat Encinal but its really no use discussing would a could a’s is it ? People that create scenarios that can never be
proven just like creating controversy.In the next couple of weeks all of our teams
(if you made it to the playoffs) will be tested.Its hard enough to just think about the next game and advancing to the next round.When we beat Marin we will get our props…
peace
November 16th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
upset alert! very hard to beat the same team twice in 1 season. 27-22 hornets! we will stack the box i see how good your q.b is! you will have to pass to win this time. our offense will control the clock with ruck running the show.
November 16th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I feel pretty confident in saying that Cal would handle Mack as well. Btw, BVAL Expert Salesian is not terrible compared to teams like Richmond and Marshall. Salesian is much better than both of those teams, and it’s not close.
November 16th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
R10 would cal beat grant ,rocklin, palo alto bellarmine or valley christian. Dont need to see cal playing coll.park castro valley washfremont. Srv playing antioch for what!? Mv playing hayward why? Ebal play teams with similar advantages as yourselves.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Look, I have been a big advocate that those teams you listed need to get out there and start playing those type of teams you listed. I have been saying that for the past two years. I also don’t need to see those teams play Antioch or Hayward. I was disappointed by Cal’s schedule as well, but I’m guessing Bellici will up it next year. Grant would beat all three of them handily. Cal could beat Rocklin this year as well as the the Bells. Paly is undefeated, but I think they are a bit overrated imo and Cal vs Paly I think the Grizz win. VC would be fun to watch go up against Cal.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Nfl,
Cal playing Grant, Rocklin, Palo Alto, Bellarmine, Valley Christian(San Jose) would all be close games. Couldn’t tell you who would definately win.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Yes and MV played Serra and PItt, SRV played Washington and Mitty, Cal played Washington and l think College Park so they don’t just schedule cupcakes. All schools schedule some easy games it just how it is, what people are saying is that these other teams would beat EBAL I believe Mack and Encinal are very good team in their leagues but put them in ebal and were would they come out problably not 2-3 they are 6-7 in most years maybe 5 they have to beat DLS, Cal, MV, SRV, AV, Foothill in any given year such is going to be difficult for them.
November 16th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
R10 how would you’ve ranked the top 5 in d3?
November 16th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
mv alum cal needs to step up there non league. De la will blow them out next time. Mv srv no problem with your non league but every once in a while you should be playing the teams ive mentioned cause your never gonna beat de la unless they let you recruit some richmond n oakland boys.
November 16th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
BVAL FAN
First of all get your facts straight. We did not play richmond. Since when did Salesian become bad. Havn’t they won their league like 5 years in a row? Now they are bad because Mack beat them. Ferndale is 146-13 over the past 22 seasons and a top seed in the playoffs.
November 16th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
BVAL FAN
Didn’t Pittsburg win the BVAL crown?
November 16th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
I know that MV contacted some of the schools out there when heritage took them off as well as Logan but you have to remember that the teams they play in ebal (except Livermore and Granada most years) really test them and each other plus with DLS on the schedule they fee pretty good about who they play. I also think we need to see if the SJS schools want to come down here to play us as well they have a tough league and may feel the same way. But I do agree if you can schedule a Bellermine or VC they should try.
November 16th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
That is a tough question about when do you get your SOS games in. If you are in a weak league then you need to get your SOS games in preseason. If you have a tough league then it is not as necessary unless you want to play even more elite teams like DLS does. It also comes down to how many out of league games you have. Some have as many as five and some as few as three and might go down to two in the EBAL. I personally think that Cal’s preseason was good for them this year. They needed a confidence boost after last year and a new coach. It ended up being too easy but at the time no one knew how things would shake out with a new quarterback, etc. I think that Coach Billeci has a better idea now of what personel he has coming up and what they can handle and how his new policies and traditions are working.
November 16th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
@ mv alum
heritage didn’t take MV out. it was MV who didn’t want the game this year. just a correction. i don’t know about logan.
November 16th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Coach mac- I agree with BVAL Fan just because you win your league doesn’t necessarily mean they are a good team, it means they are in a bad league in this case.. you know that right? you should know since your own league is like that. and that was a typo they were from richmond.. Which shouldnt make alot of a difference. Dont compare OAL and ACCAL teams to the EBAL saying that your ready to play them, look at Castro Valley vs California… that will be your teams if you dont toughen up your schedule… Here you guys talk about how good you are in your own leagues but yet dont want to play EBAL schools for your OOL (out of league schedule… Like i said before about pittsburg.. We all know that they were not as good as they once were..
November 16th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
All 3 of Cal’s preseason games were against playoff teams. 2 of which were very successful in last year’s playoffs as well, College Park and Washington. The EBAL provides a tough schedule, just ask Pitt and Washington who played a number of EBAL teams in the preseason.
You say Cal needs to play Grant, VC or Bellarmine? I don’t even see DLS playing any one of those teams. Since when is it required to have the toughest schedule of any team in the NCS? Cal is not the one in here begging for a state bowl berth. Obviously if one wants a bowl berth you need to win your section first, and then show a strength of schedule. Had Cal beaten DLS both last week and again at NCS and ended the season 14-0, I have no doubt they would have gotten a chance at a state bowl berth. Cal’s schedule is plenty strong with DLS and a full EBAL schedule. But with no EBAL teams such as DLS on their schedule, Mack needs to strengthen that schedule if they want a bowl berth.
November 16th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Dont get me started on Ebal.. please minus De la salle. the league is like the mval in 06..you guys are going to get exposed in the playoffs… Almost every year this happends.. the last 4 years its been good, the Srv team in 07 the call team in 07 and 10 Mark my words.. how can you guys have your chest and neck up so high..? btw Conconrd hasnt beaten any one either, why would you throw there name in the elites? just 2 years ago.. you guys barely tied castlemont??????..
November 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Don’t get me wrong, Pitt on Mack’s schedule was a huge win. But unfortunately for Mack, Pitt also lost all 4 of their other preseason games. Had Pitt gone 9-1 this year instead of 5-5, and their only loss came against Mack, that would have been a much more meaningful win. Pitt may still get it together and beat DLS in 2 weeks and go onto win the NCS D1 title, which would be about the best thing Mack could hope for if they want to be considered for a bowl berth.
With Mack’s league schedule and facing those same teams again in the playoffs, the only way to impress the bowl committee is to schedule extremely tough preseason games. Then, in addition to winning each of those tough games, hope those teams go undefeated in all their other games. At least in basketball the championships are decided on the courts and if Mack is the best team they can keep playing.
November 16th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Man there are some bitter people on here. Stop all the talk. Schedule EBAL teams and beat us, then let’s talk. Overall and in comparison with other leagues, they are dominant. There’s no sense in arguing about it. If you think you’re better then bring it on…but don’t whine when EBAL teams make you look bad…and I mean really bad.
November 16th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
BVAL expert
Didn’t Pittsburg beat all of the teams in the BVAL? Wasn’t Pittsburg picked to win the BVAL in the preseason? Didn’t Pittsburg transfer in a couple of D-1 Prospects from Ygnatio Valley and Diablo Valley,ect.?
Doesn’t Pittsbur have over 200 kids trying out for football frosh,jv,and var? 22 kids on our team, 240 students enrolled.
November 16th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
C.Sparks, which EBAL teams will be exposed in the playoffs? Obviously, not all of them can win each week. I see DLS, Cal & MV most likely all getting to the semifinals. Does that mean the EBAL 4th, 5th and 6th place teams losing somehow shows the league is exposed? Especially when they are likely to be playing each other.
The EBAL went 22-2 in preseason games outside of league with one of the losses the #7 EBAL team AV that did not make the playoffs losing to the top seeded D2 team Concord. The only other loss was an out of section close loss by MV (to a team that then beat Encinal badly the next week), whose only other losses were to DLS and Cal.
SRV (2-5 in the EBAL) will have their hands full with DV but should win. Granada (3-4 EBAL) will have their hands full with Freedom, and I could see a Freedom upset in the making but that in no way would “expose” the EBAL. Cal, MV, DLS and Foothill should all win their 1st round games.
November 16th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Coach Mac…you are doing yourself any favors. Your whole argument surrounds Pitt’s status this year,and this wasn’t a good year for them. They won their league…but in some leagues that aren’t good, that can happen. Enough about your enrollment…you are really turning people off of your team. Enjoy your success and build a stronger schedule next year.
November 16th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Coach mac- Your points have nothing to do to the fact that you dont play anyone.. what does all of this have to do with this.. NOTHING.. you guys got screwed when pittsburg lost all their out of league games.. because that ment that your win had lesser and lesser value when they lost to those teams.. if they were to beat any of those teams then the value of the win would go up…. so playing pittsburg was an ok win..
Fann- Thank you so much tell those Oakland leagues if they want to talk.. stop being chicken S*** about and play someone that is way better then you.. Man up to your talk
November 16th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
I guess according to C.sparks you need to make it to the finals of NCS to be any good. I look at it this way. Almost every year in NCS playoffs one or two teams come from each of the other leagues and the rest come from EBAL. Why is that?
November 16th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Patpride my understanding was they finished their 2yrs and decided not to renew Logan opted out not sure about Heritage. Serra and Hayward were new teams for us.
November 16th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
All Ebal teams will loose except for Monte vista, Cal and de la salle..
November 16th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Nfl- Top 5 in D3 for me would have been:
1. MC
2. CN
3. Encinal
4. Miramonte
5. Eureka
Not a huge follower of D3 football, but that’s how I would have gone.
Prep Fan- I think the comment or at least how I took it was that MV, SRV, and Cal should be playing those type of teams, not necessarily those schools. I agree that I think Bellici wasn’t sure how his team would be this year and I think that goes for a lot of us. Hell I thought they would finish third at the highest, but more likely fourth. A lot of teams from the SJS would like to play a team outside of the section, that I know. Besides the Battle at the Capitol, they are willing to travel. Teams from the SFL like playing tough competition early to get them ready for league play which is an absolute meat grinder.
November 16th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
D1 Preview and Picks:
#15 Castro Valley@ #2 Cal- A rematch of a blowout earlier in the season, and will not change here. 56-14 Cal wins.
#14 San Leandro@ #3 MV- The SL Pirates are way down this year. Their qb Musni is alright, but not much support. The Mustangs have really picked up their play as the season has gone along, thanks in big part to the development of QB Jeff Lockie to compliment the running of Sullas. I know early in the year I said I didn’t think Sullas was going to be one of the better backs, but I was wrong big time. Whether he rose to the occasion out of necessity, or had just been waiting for his time to shine, it doesn’t matter he is a big reason why MV stayed on track this year. Look for both to have big games in a 45-14 rout.
#13 College Park @ #4 Foothill- Most of us remember last year when CP came in and took down AV in a game that wasn’t close. As I have said, that AV team was dinged up at that point and missing QB Stancil, but it was an impressive win nonetheless. Foothill comes into the playoffs a bit of an unknown. They started off fast with the new look on offense, but teams have caught on and the lack of a true passing threat is hurting them big time. Their defense has usually been tough all season, and if they want any type of playoff success they are going to need that defense to be top notch. It will be a low scoring game, but I think the Falcons have enough to get by CP 14-3.
#12 Freedom@ #5 Granada- Granada is not coming into the playoffs in an impressive fashion. 3 blowout losses to the top three teams, followed up by a one point victory over lowly Livermore. Whether they were still reeling from the three losses, or Livermore just played really well, that’s a game Granada probably should handled more easily than it did. Freedom has been in some very close games over the course of the season. Four of their losses were by seven points or less. They have a tough defense that is going to give Granada trouble. But as long as Atkinson is healthy he has that ability to outrun everybody on the field. Assuming he is good to go, I think one of his big runs or returns will be the difference in a 28-21 victory for Granada.
#11 Deer Valley@ #6 SRV- Probably the one game, a lot of people are sure that the EBAL team will lose. I’m not so convinced. While I think their 31 point output against MV was more because MV’s run defense is not great, they definitely have something build off of on that side of the ball. However, for a defense that had been one of the best for most of the season, the 38 points is a bit of a troubling number. Still DV has had it’s share of struggles on both sides of the ball and I don’t see that changing in another close 21-14 victory for the Wolves.
#7 Berkeley@ #10 Logan- I believe this is the only matchup with the higher seed traveling in D1 playoffs. I felt that Berkeley got overseeded a little bit here, but obviously the committee viewed the win over Pitt to be more significant than the loss to Freedom. Still, I am not convinced that they are as good this year as last year and I don’t know that they really have improved that much over the course of the season. I do believe the development of Miles Long into one of the top soph’s in the area has made Logan a more dangerous team, and I think they upset the Jackets, 31-14.
#9 Heritage@ #8 Pitt- A rematch of the close league game they played early in the year. It’s kind of similar to the situation Pitt was in last year when they went up against Deer Valley in the playoffs. I haven’t seen it confirmed, but have read that there is a possibility that Tyler McDonald will return for the Patriots in the post season, much like Dargan did for the Pirates last year. How much that helps is yet to be seen, if he comes back at all. Still the Pats are looking for revenge, but playing at Pitt works against them. Pitt on the other hand has improved but at times still reverts back to the form they had in the beginning of the season. Don’t let the score against Antioch deceive you because Antioch just isn’t a good team. I think another close game in favor of the Pirates happens in a 24-21 fashion.
November 16th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Nice breakdown R10 I think the 2games that will be tough on Ebal teams are Granada and SR. I like SR but you just don’t know if their offense is going to show up i think their D will be ready. Granada like you said is just not playing great they need to step up. Final note thanks for the compliment for Sullas don’t want to say I told you so but!!
He did a great job for them this year and would have finished behind Dunne for the rushing title if he had those 2games plus he had several TD’s not given to him he was the our 20yd to your 10yd guy get them there then someone else gets the glory, for his part he doesn’t care just as long as they win. My opinion he should be with Dunne as 1st team back but he will probably be 2nd team with Alvarez which is a compliment in this league.
November 16th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Ebal is top shelf in the ncs so why not play the best from other sections and prove how good you are. All im hearing is are league is tough enough. Come on step up. For that dummy who said de la dont play the teams i mentioned early is cause they played national powers they dont need those games.cal srv mv need to play the top teams from other sections if there as good as you say they are.
November 16th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
NFL I don’t think anyone is saying they shouldn’t but we don’t make those decisions what we are presenting is why maybe they feel fine about what they are doing because they play in a difficult league. Again should they yes will they don’t know .
November 16th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Nfl think about it why would the Ebal coaches schedule extremly tough pre season schedules. the only advantage of having a tough preseason is SOS, but becuase they play in the 4th toughest league in the state (as rated by calpreps) they dont need any higher strength of schedule. IF an Ebal team wins league and ncs that means they would have to beat Dls twice. This is enough for a team to make it to a bowl game in an average year. So by schedule top teams (instead of the D1 playoff teams they already schedule) they only run the risk of injury with no positive effect. Even with playing these teams it does not help them acheive there goal of league, ncs and state.
November 16th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Having seen many ebal teams over the years and Encinal, SPSV and Marin Catholic, I tell you this. The only advatage some of these ebal teams have is depth. Yes, MV, Cal and San Ramon can handle these smaller schools and all blow Mack away, , but no way is Foothill, Livermore, Granada and AV going to take it to these schools. These schools have conditioning, great coaching and speed!
Yea, Granada has speed, but stop ONE player and that’s it. Can Mack play with these ebal schools- yes, but discinpline and coaching will prevail. Mack can’t beat Encinal, SPSV and Marin Catholic. They can beat some ebal schools however.
November 16th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
I know what Cal Preps says on the ebal, but that’s because De La is in the league, pull DLS and put them on a full independent schedule, it’s hard to beleive ebal is the 4th best league in the state. The wcal, Moore league and more than several other southern california and SJS league are better.
I can name over 25 schools from SC that are heads over heals better than ebal teams this yr except California.
Should we start,
Mission Viejo
Bishop Amat
Mater Dei
Poly
Centenial
Westlake Christian
Serra(Gardena)
John Bosco
Notre Dame
Clovis
Clovis West
St. Boneventure
Crenshaw
and more.
Cal would beat some of these teams, not many, the rest of the ebal would get routed!
These are De La Salle type programs and talent.
Nuff said.
November 16th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Bigeasy you can’t be serious? You must not be to competitive plus Your never gonna beat de la that’s a pipe dream don’t have the athletes. Play a power from another section who is cal Monte vista best win this year?
November 16th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Yo Mama forgot to mention SJS teams over the ebal, Grant, Rocklin, St. Mary’s, Vacaville, Granite Bay.
November 16th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
Bigjoe your right depth is the differance.uncial had Serra 7-6 at half with Serra td coming from a block punt. Spsv needs to play better nonleague it cost them with healdsburg and also hurt encinal. They could beat alot of dfal teams but Blanton don’t play anyone above d4
November 16th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Yo mama i completely agree that those teams are better then all but one or two ebal teams year in and year out but srv cal and mv dont have to beat out those teams to make it to a bowl game. NFl beating dls is always the goal becuase that is how you win ebal ncs and make it to bowl games. So scheduling these harder teams does not make any sense to the coaches it is not going to help accomplish there goals. i am just trying to point out the coachs and ads thought process. Mv best win is between SRV, Foothill, Pittsburg, and Granada. Cal best win would be agaisnt MV
November 16th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
To this BVAL expert- How is Sequoia bad at 9-0-1 and Alameda decent at 4-6?
You forgot to mention PV beat Berkeley.
This is who Berkeley beat-
Pitt-BVAL champ very good.
Change your name, your not an expert on anything. You say these teams cant be ranked without beating EBAL team, but whats the record between the EBAL and the BVAL?
I know the record between the ACCAL and BVAL, 1-0. Our second place team beat your champs “expert”.
Do you have any link to a school in the BVAL? I played in the BVAL as a sophomore at Pinole in 99. I seem to remember beating then BVAL champions Pitt in the playoffs in 2000. Id bet I have more of a link to the BVAL than you do “expert”.
Once again, people who know nothing about footbal speaking on football.
November 16th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Big Joe
Just because one team is faster than another does not make them better, Foothill has beaten faster teams consistently in Sweeney’s 23 years. They have beat the likes of Skyline, Pitt, Stagg of Stockton, Logan, others on numerous occasions. The teams that have beaten Foothill are teams that happen to be bigger that particular year. Like DLS every year and Cal this year. foothill is well coached and speed does not cause them concern if their isn’t size with it. Pitt, Logan and Granada all have more speed than Foothill this year and yet Foothill beat them all.
November 16th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
PVspartan – glad someone blogging on here knows something about football…You watch that tape yet?
November 16th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
PV spartan- you didnt listen to my previous post.. You must have bad reading skills…Berkeley sucked this year there league is terrible and garbage and they lost to freedom… shows how much you know about your own league.. All the teams in their league are terrible: De anza, el Cerrito, Pinole hasn’t beaten a tough team who have they beaten?.. Berkley was down this year!!!!!!!.. you idiot berkley puts up 60 plus on every league opponent just because they do that doesnt mean there good.. it means they arent challenging themselves and their league sucks, … they lost Galvan and some other good players.. how about you actually pay attention to Berkley and just stop assuming.. are you kidding me just because Pittsburg won the BVAL doesnt mean there all that great(Pittsburg was down this year too)… I can care less about your link or whatever you call it.. that doesnt mean anything to me.. ive lived near the BVAL league alot longer then you..
November 16th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Wizard, Foothill has a storied program under Sweeney, in previous years. I said this year and last year wasn’t very impressive. Pitt, Logan and Granada would get killed in SoCal.
November 16th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
nfl, SPSV and Blanton have played div2 and 3 teams in the past and beat them. Can’t account for the last several years schedule, it seems most teams want to be comfortable before entering league. This has hurt many sos for teams, as evidence in this year’s NCS playoffs. Encinal has done a good job playing Serra, but need more. MC needs to get out of that weak MCAL and get into the WCAL.
November 16th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Can i ask a question it seems that the EBAL needs to play a schedule of top 25 in California to get any respect but what about the experts and your leagues I don’t see your coaches running out to schedule any of these teams so please just because you don’t like the Ebal stop talking junk we have a very good league with consistent winning teams. Teams in other leagues play well but you can’t compare them because you don’t schedule EBAL teams so we just wont know it is back to the same argument. EBAL will win some playoff games and lose others, fact, it happens every year and will continue to happen because in Northern Cal they are a better league than most, END OF STORY….
November 16th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
i agree MV alum… ACCAL dont compare urselfs to the best.. if you dont play the best
November 16th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Big Joe, don’t disagree. I am definitely not comparing nor cal to so cal. foothill hasn’t been as good the last couple of years but I still think they beat Encinal and Mack. You can’t argue with the win loss record of the Ebal in the East bay area. Last year I think they lost 4 games out 20 plus outside of the league and this year two and just one to another east bay area school and that was the7th place team to Concord. Just because someone is 10-0 or 9-1 doesn’t mean they are better.
If Encinal or Mack played Foothill’s schedule their record is worse.
Pitt – Foothill won by 18, Mack won on a last minute drive after Pitt fumbled running out the clock
Logan- encinal and Mack both lose
nova to – they all win this year
dLS- they all lose
Granada-Mack and encinal both lose after getting beat up by DLS the previous week
Livermore -they all win
San Ramon – Mack, Encinal lose
MV – they all lose
cal – they all lose
Amador- Mack, Encinal lose after getting beat up some more from last three opponents
Encinal and Mack finish 3 – 7 best case 4-6 but possibly 2-8
November 16th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
The exercise with Foothill’s schedule, I could do with MV, SRV, Granada, Cal or Amador. You can’t compare having weeks where you can literally look past games in the current week to get ready for one or two tough games coming up. The EBAL has one such week where you can game plan for the opponent after Livermore the same week you play Livermore.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
And even EBAL doormat Livermore went 3-0 in non-league this year. They beat 2 teams from the DFAL (Dublin and DV – a playoff team) and one from the BVAL – Liberty. I’m sure they could have handled just about every other league’s last 2 place finishers as well.
November 16th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Exactly.. My point “dublin” ‘,,,,,,’….*clap *clap……. that means nothing .. livermore.. would not fisnsh second is most leaugues.. my friend
November 17th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Didn’t Dublin beat Alhambra and Dougherty Valley? I don’t think he was saying Livermore would finish 2nd in most leagues, he was saying they would beat at least the bottom two teams in each league. And don’t sleep on the Cowboys either in the future. Haubner has them going in the right direction.
November 17th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Thank you Bernie Mac.
BVAL “expert”- So living in an area makes you an expert? Thats the most ignorant statement ive evr heard. I guess im an expert on the gold rush period since I live in California? Moron.
So, Pitt is down? They won your league! What does that say baout the rest of your league? Pinole has beaten two teams that could win the BVAL. Berkeley proved it and no one in the BVAL could beat RC.
Once again, “expert”, how are you linked to the BVAL? Just living in the area doesnt count. Did you play in the BVAL? Have you coached in the BVAL? Better yet, have you ever played or coached anywhere? Im guessing…no.
Your on here talking alot crap about a league that holds two teams that could win the BVAL. Im not the only one who feels this way, look at the original topic jackwagon were 7 slots above your champion. A team that had a terrib le presason back to back years only to win league both years.
Get back to your day job and stop pretending to know anything about football. Let me guess, your an expert on the BVAL vollyball too since you live near a school. Go spray your crap on someone else d-bag.
November 17th, 2010 at 7:57 am
I feel the D-3 bracket is a good one this year….First round will go like this…Marin Catholic, Cardinal Newman, Encinal, Acalanes,Eureka,Miramonte, Ygnacio Valley, Alhambra….Alhambra slightly banged up,but should prevail.
San Rafael@ 9-1 will not be able to stop Acalanes’s double wing and will not move the ball against their top rated defense in the DFAL.
Project Championship game to be Marin Catholic vs. either Miramonte or Encinal. Eureka being the darkhorse.
November 17th, 2010 at 7:58 am
I get the feeling that PVspartan is a very, very, angry man…
November 17th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Either PV is angry OR he is right
November 17th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Is there a reason he can’t be both?
November 17th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Wizard, whats your point? Encinal is down to play Foothill. We are waiting on a response from Foothill. Monte Vista too. We are waiting. still waiting. Step up to the plate EBAL. We are down.;
November 17th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Okay. Encinal aint trying to be in the EBAL. But Im sure they are down to play an over rated Foothill and Monte Vista.
November 17th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Encinal can’t play MC in the championship. It wold the Semis.
November 17th, 2010 at 9:19 am
All this talk about Mack and Encinal not being able to beat EBAL schools is non-sense. I don’t know why people from the EBAL don’t think these two teams arent good esp Encinal from the sucess they’ve had over the last few years. In my opinion to even compare Encinal and Mack to EBAL team is a honor considering the differnce in school/roster size and level of commitment from players and admin. To me that means they are doing a heck of a job if people can believe that these two teams have a shot at beating or compeating with a EBAL team which has differnt advantages to there teams. I also believe that DLS makes that league 3X better than what if actually is. If I had to pick who would beat who heres who I’d pick, This year only
Encinal
Win- Granada, Livermore, AV
Close Game: MV, SRV, Foothill
Lose: Cal, DLS
Mack
Win- Livermore, AV
Close Game: Granada, Foothill, SRV
Lose: DLS, Cal, MV
November 17th, 2010 at 10:02 am
PV Spartan- Are you mentally retarded i explained in three posts that “JUST BECAUSE YOU WIN A LEAGUE DOESNT MEAN YOUR THE BEST OF THE BEST” stop hyping the wins over Pittsburg and saying that the BVAL sucks. So your saying that pittsburg is at its best this year just because they won league? They have definitely lost some key players over the years.. See dont talk about the BVAL if your not from this area.. Look how dumb you sound right now.., i already explained this, and yes ive played football in the BVAL before and ever since i have followed teams out here.. You think you can beat Heritage? Pittsburg? Freedom? Deer Valley? These schools are really good even though they lost to Pittsburg, they even had trouble with Freedom and Heritage.. I am confident to say that BVAL is the 2nd strongest League in the bay area… OUR 4TH PLACE TEAM BEAT BERKLEY.. Just because just beat the number one team from a league doesn’t mean you can beat the rest of the teams… I Gaurentee you that you will have trouble with Freedom, Heritage and DV.. You need to look at the big picture of things.. and your wrong about Two teams capable of winning league, the four teams that i just said were in contention of winning league according to the newspaper
November 17th, 2010 at 10:12 am
PVSpartan,
The point is not that there are two good teams in the ACCAL who can play with the best teams in the BVAL, beating some and losing to others, the point is that the league as a whole isn’t good.
What about the other teams? Deanza? Richmond? EL Cerrito? Hercules? Alameda? Those teams are garbage. Look at their schedules on Maxpreps. When you play in a league like that, it makes it easy because you know you can cruise through some games.
However, in a league with more parity, like the BVAL (all except Antioch are positively ranked on Calpreps), your team has to grind. It’s even worse in the EBAL where the schedule grinds your team down over the course of the season.
And who has Pinole played? Your schedule is even weaker than Liberty’s and theirs was the weakest in the BVAL.
It’s easy to get up for one big game against a Pitt or a Sequoia, but imagine having them back to back and Heritage following? Or in the EBAL, imagine them back to back and then Cal and DLS following. You guys would NOT be ready.
There’s nothing like playing in a league where 3-5 games are easy wins and you only need to work to win 2-3 others to make the playoffs.
November 17th, 2010 at 10:15 am
I think what people don’t understand about Pitt is that they got some key players back right before legue games started. Pitt had a horrile “pre-season” but now they’re much better with the addition and maturity of some key players. But on the flip side Mack and Berkeley deserve those wins and shouldnt be knocked too hard for them because the game must still go on with or without your “Best players” on the field. PVspartan, you are hyping Berkeley a little too much because they a VERY over rated and arent that good.
November 17th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Man Down- Do you even know what the the EBAL teams are Capable of doing? Dont say they can beat teams in the EBAL.. Back it up and actually schedule a game VS them. Im sick and tired of hearing this crap about Encinal and Mack.. STOP TALKING AND PROVE IT.. Amador Valley and Granada are alot better then you think.. I still think Amador Valley is very good despite thier record.. hahahha and i like how you put close game.. In the game of football you either win or lose.. there is no such thing as a close game..
November 17th, 2010 at 10:32 am
BVAL Expert, Come on homie don’t act like these teams in the EBAL arent beatable. I know these are tough well coached teams but they can also be beat. You act as if Encinal and Mack arent good this year and if you think that guess again pal. O yea, when I say close game it means either team could win… Hater.
November 17th, 2010 at 10:44 am
ManDown, i know they are good teams (Encinal,Mack).. in their area yes.. but dont go around saying they can beat anyone in the bay area just like most fans are saying right now.. its really ignorant, to think they can look at them beating an EBAL team.. Encinal is only good when they play in their area and their out of league schedule this year, same with MAC.. Mac’s league is terrible not to hard to win league their.. just watch what you say, so it doesnt bite you in the A** in the long run.. I mean look what California did to Castro Valley.. That can possibly be you guys right their..
November 17th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Man, I’m not gonna say that the teams in the EBAL are not good but some of you guys act like they should be in the NFL. Any team on any given day can lose to any other team anytime. DLS is a great team almost every year great coaching and good talent. They just haven’t lost in quite awhile but they can lose too. Cal Showed that they had a chance right? I’m not gonna say that Mack Or My Jets Would win out in that league but i’ll bet they’d win at least most of their league games. With the talent level the last 4 years Can anyone say my Jets wouldn’t go to the playoffs from the EBAL? When the Contra Costa – Alameda All Star teams played in the first game back most you guys said the North would kill the South and what happend? The truth is we’ll all never know until they play. JET PRIDE!
November 17th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Never said they can beat anyone in the area just that I think they have a shot at beating some teams… Not them all. That would be stupid for anyone to think.
November 17th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Man- maybe not you but some of the fans do
November 17th, 2010 at 11:14 am
BVAL Expert, then like you said ” its really ignorant” to think that. Let the fans be exactly what they are FANS. Thats what they do cheer, root, and talk up there favorite teams so they can feel good about themselfs and what they believe.
November 17th, 2010 at 11:31 am
What I want to know is did the ebal play DLS when DLS was in the BVAL. Ebal wont play good schools in the Mval or the Haal because they wont get good seeds in the playoffs. The rankings and the seeding is set up by Ebal groupies. The Ebal never won a NCS championship when DLS was in the BVAL. But the BVAL did win a NCS championship against DLS. San Ramon 5-5 and a six seed. Give me a break. Lets put the two best of the Bval against each other so they will nock each other off and maybe two Ebal schools will get another week to play. what a set up.
November 17th, 2010 at 11:44 am
shut up bval expert, your league is hella boring…. and your part of the bay as well.. your whole league got like 2000 kids in each school… East bay football. is where the Real ballers get down.
November 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Hey, where are the D/III-IV postings?????????
November 17th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Look it the EBAL was a very good league before DLS and as I recall they won many NCS titles, with DLS it makes them a better league, I have never said that Mack or Encinal are
team as a matter of fact they are very good teams do I think they could beat the top 4 in EBAL, no, would they hang, maybe for a while but these teams would make 2 or 3 stops and score putting the game out of reach. As far as the bottom 3 i think they can win those games would they I don’t know but definitely have a shot. I will bring up both Pitt and Berkeley from last year I think they had far superior teams than the ones they have this year and they were beat pretty handily by MV and again the only reason Pitt got in the championship game was they were in the other bracket. All leagues have great teams that can win games no one is perfect except maybe DLS (and it pains me to say that) so back to the point until these games happen it is a moot point good luck to all in their endeavors.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
MV Alum Says:
November 17th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Look it the EBAL was a very good league before DLS and as I recall they won many NCS titles, with DLS it makes them a better league, I have never said that Mack or Encinal are
**Bad**team as a matter of fact they are very good teams do I think they could beat the top 4 in EBAL, no, would they hang, maybe for a while but these teams would make 2 or 3 stops and score putting the game out of reach. As far as the bottom 3 i think they can win those games would they I don’t know but definitely have a shot. I will bring up both Pitt and Berkeley from last year I think they had far superior teams than the ones they have this year and they were beat pretty handily by MV and again the only reason Pitt got in the championship game was they were in the other bracket. All leagues have great teams that can win games no one is perfect except maybe DLS (and it pains me to say that) so back to the point until these games happen it is a moot point good luck to all in their endeavors.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
This conversation is nuts!!
Most Ebal teams have done very well against teams from other areas in the bay area. Will they continue to win all these games, who knows?? What you find with the better Ebal teams, DLS, MV, Cal, SR and Foothill are dedicated athletes with the ability financially to get specialized training, whether that be the QB’s, the lineman or the kickers. Does that help, sure it does, is it fair, probably not– but that is the way it currently is. You find better conditioned athletes at these schools; I have watched Ebal games with schools from other leagues and many times the lineman from the other schools are gassed by the 2nd Q. Unless and until that changes the Ebal teams will continue to win. There are very good athletes at the other schools but better overall team conditioning and specialized training is hard to overcome.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
I cant wait for friday, a lot of questions will be answered. At the least it is the best teams in the area playing all at the same time against each other. To bad the games are not in the same stadium so everyone could see them all. There will be some suprises.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
SRV and Amador Valley are both solid teams, and could play with most teams in the area. Both went 2-5 in the EBAL this season. Thus, in order to even make the playoffs, each team needed to win all 3 of thir preseason games. SRV did so and made the playoffs while AV fell short. Thus EBAL teams besides DLS need to be able to evalaute what kind of team they will have before scheduling teams like Grant or Valley Christian or they isk not even making the playoffs.
Meanwhile, lesser teams from other leagues like Castro Valley, Newark & College Park qualify for the playoffs with a winning league record. You just can’t count on having a winning record when you play in the EBAL, as Livermore is the only sure win, and even that is no gimmee as Granada almost lost to them and Renegades is right they will get better with Haubner in the coming seasons. A team like Pitt can schedule much tougher non-league games as they know they will win a number of league games and still be able to qualify even if they go 0-5 in those games.
Nobody is saying the EBAL is like the NFL. It is just that there are a lot of really good teams in that league. Many other leagues have a lot of weak teams which make their records a lttle bit deceiving when compared to the EBAL teams. Teams like Encinal and Mack are extremely good for their size, but there are good reasos why the playoffs are broken out by school size and those teams don’t compete with the upper tier D1 teams for the NCS or state titles.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Stop lumping the BVAL with the EBAL. The EBAL is a clear number one and a 5-5 team won the BVAL. And yes, moron, your league is only as good as its champion.
I said there is two teams in the ACCAL that could win the BVAL, learn to read tard basket.
Berkeley isnt over rated, they are rated correctly. 16th, with a win over 15. I dont care who wasnt there or what got fixed or what might have happened. Its simple, Berkeley beat Pitt and no one else in the BVAL could.
“expert”- Winning league does in fact make you the best of the best in that league moron. Thats why we have a league champion and they get the automatic bid for the playoffs. How dumb are you? The best team isnt the best team? What logic is that? Get over yourself and stop trying to lump the BVAL in with the EBAL.
I bet you rode the bench at Clayton Valley.
Bench warmer.
Bet you never took a snap of football past high school.
What, you an expert from watching sportscenter? Change your name bench warmer.
I put my money on PV against anyone in the BVAL. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR NOT THE EBAL. BVAL is very over rated.
EB football coach- Never said the ACCAl is better than any league, but I know the top two teams can compete with the top two teams from any league in the area minus the EBAL.
The only team in the BVAL rated higher than Rancho Cotate (who we beat) is Heritage and that can be questioned.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
NCS website- Division 1 results since all EBAL schools went to that class (03)
DLS has obviously won them all-7 titles
However they have knocked out an EBAL team every year in the semi’s or finals.
DLS has ended Foothill season in the semi’s or Finals 4 of these 7 years; ended Pitts season 4 of these 7 years; ended other EBAL schools in 5 of these times and ended San Leandro’s once. That’s 14 games DLS has played in these 7 years and it has virtually been Pitt or an EBAL school they have played to wrap up their semi final and final wins.
November 17th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Pvfartan, do you feel better? Have a head ache? Those elegant words of your’s were hard to think of huh. I dont remember calling anyone out, just asked questions. Wizard showed some class. Thanks wizard
November 17th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Coach, you make a good point but I will say that the importance of conditioning has increased since DLS joined the league (they were head and shoulders above the Sanchez coached Cal team they faced in the finals) but the gap is closing or may now be closed making it that much harder for less disciplined teams.
November 17th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Killer D,
Who do you like in a potential Middletown-El Molino game in the 2nd round?
Second, what kind of final score do you see for the ‘Hounds in a potential semifinal matchup between that winner (Healdsburg would be at home vs. El Mo, might have to play Middletown at Middletown, with the league champ/home game NCS policy-which I think is rubbish..)
November 17th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
PV- correction: Freedom beat Berkley in week two a BVAL has beaten a ACCL team… No one is lumping together anything thats you lumping them together.. and two ACCAL teams can win the BVAL? are you kidding me thats a joke.. how come your attacking the BVAL? see this is what im talking about, to scared to mention playing the EBAL spartan? Berekley is way over rated, people thought they were going to win league this year, with the fact that they were down and lost players.. IDIOT.. If winning league means your the best of the best… ur saying pittsburg or any other team that finishes first in a league can in fact beat a team thats number 2 or 3 in a different league?, in this case it is not true So ur saying pittsburg can beat california or northgate? im not to sure about that buddy.. its perfect logic if you look at the big picture.. Your not looking at it as a NCS perspective.. Yes they won league but does that really mean they are the best in the NCS? Come on even a middle schooler can answer that question?
as far as Pinole Valley and other schools your not going to win respect on blogs or other teams if your team plays opponents out of the NCS, look no one thinks pinole’s schedule is tough only you know how good the teams you played are..
November 17th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Thanks, nothing wrong with passion and support for the local team. But when reality gets in the way it is frustrating. Take Amador for example, they are good every year with little to show for it because they play in the EBAL. Deer valley same thing because can’t get by Pitt. There are injury factors that come into play in these deeper leagues that just show themselves as much in the weaker leagues. I know EBAL schools that played games with 4 or 5 starters out. Does this happen everywhere of course but it is certainly more likely when your facing bigger opponents week in and week out. Every year there are good teams at various schools it just doesn’t mean they would hang in the EBAL or BVAL. Look at Logan and Washington, they are a two team race every year in their league and they have played EBAL teams consistently with little success. Encinal and Mack are well coached and they have good players but that doesn’t mean they have teams that would beat EBAL schools. Novato is another great example, they have been very good against their competition the last 4 or 5 years but when they have scheduled up, they have not fared well. Just like Encinal against Serra this year.
November 17th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Were arguing about two different things.
Im saying, if you win league, you are the best in that league.
Your saying, if you win a league your still not as good as a team who didnt win a tougher league.
Were both right.
I do need you to explain why you think Berkeley or Pinole could not have won the BVAL this year.
Am I right, did you ride the pine at CV? Did you not take another snap after high school.
The EBAL is the best league in the area by far. I do NOT think we would fare well in league play in the EBAL.
I do think we could win the BVAL.
And your lumping it together lumpy. Your posts mix who you think can compete with who. Let me clear it up. NO ONE WILL HAVE SUCCESS WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT IN THE EBAL IN THE AREA EXCEPT CAL AND DLS. All three Mac. Encinal, and Pinole could win the BVAL this year. Two different leagues, its like comparing the NFL to arena 2.
Oh yeah IDIOT, that down Berkeley team with injuries still beat the BVAL champs. No matter what your little heart thinks or what you type, you cant change that IDIOT. Freakin tool.
November 17th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
hasaclue- what the hell are you talking about? your last post is the first one ive read.
November 17th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
PVspartan – my argument remains the same. If you guys played in the BVAL, you’d be ground up. How many league games does your team have to really prep for? One. In the BVAL, you have to be ready every week. Even Antioch was dangerous this year.
Plus, with all the cupcakes in league, why do you guys schedule a non-league game with Irvington? Can’t get enough sweets?
Thirdly, you’re right, the BVAL is not at the level of the EBAL, but it’s not far off, either. The playoffs will show that, certainly. It’s too bad Heritage and Pitt face each other first round. At this point, I’d take Pitt over MV and Heritage over Foothill. Watch this weekend when Freedom beats Granada and Deer Valley beats SRV.
Yes, DLS and Cal stand heads and shoulders over the rest, including the rest of the Bay Area, but the others are close.
November 17th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Damn PVspartan were you that raw? What college did you go to?
November 17th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
It is possible that the 5th & 6th place EBAL teams Granada & SRV will get knocked off in the first round this week by the 2nd and 4th place teams from the BVAL. I actually think Freedom is a better team than they have shown thus far and has a real good chance of beating Granada. I think SRV will hold off DV, but DV certainly has a shot at it. If those two “upsets” occur, it would be more of a statement for the overall strength of the BVAL than an indictment of the EBAL. If Liberty and Antioch were to knock off Monte Vista & Foothill, I would even be more impressed.
November 17th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Freedom has a good chance.. they have good film to look at agaisnt Granada.. but if Freedom messes up even a little bit vs a EBAL team them its game over for them.. but they do have a chance
November 17th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
@ prep fan – dv is 3rd palce in bval. i think they have a great chance of knocking out srv. i believe freedom will win against granada. the pitt and heritage game will be interesting. i see heritage coming out on top.
November 17th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
I wasnt raw Hammond, I loved football and worked my ass off. I played D2. I went the juco route and got everything I could out of football. It paid for most of my education. I was a 5-10 280lbs guard/center in college so I was limited to say the least.
Hammond, did you play?
EB football- To tell you the truth, I think the BVAL is the second best league around. Right now there just cant be much bragging comeing out of the BVAl corner with Pitt doing what they did, but we will see this weekend. I think my responses have been geared towards BVAL expert rather than the league itself. I read this stuff and like to think the people on the other end have some idea of what theyre talking about and sometimes I get frustrated when its clear they dont.
Pinole could compete in the BVAL and possibly have won it this year. Very fast, very big and about 150 years of coaching experience on the varsity sideline.
November 17th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
PVspartan
I CAN TELL BY THE things YOU SAY
U are a RAH Rah dude no talent but alot on dedication – teachers pet type LOL
( you know what the say DEDICATION WITHOUT TALENT IS A DAYDREAM TALENT WITHOUT DEDICATION IS A NIGHTMARE)
November 18th, 2010 at 7:22 am
I am a rah rah guy, I get fired up. First time ive ever been called a teachers pet. I like to think I was somewhat talented, not everyone can play college football even on the D2 level.
November 18th, 2010 at 8:43 am
PVspartan,
5’10″ 280? Reminds me of this guy I played with in college. He showed up as a freshman 6’1″ 315lbs. He was a beast when run blocking, not so much pass blocking. He was also the world’s first perfectly square man. Good luck to Pinole this weekend.
Prep Fan – What I was saying is that the BVAL 1-6 is comparable, this year, to the EBAL 3-8. #1 and #2 are untouchable by most any team in the Bay Area with the exception of Valley Christian.
November 18th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Who wants to talk about Washington in the d2 bracket? Las lomas at home in round one any thoughts? Check out their schedule this year. They played almost the entire d1 bracket minus dls. Can we get off the accl and encinal for two seconds? I would love to see a concord – Washington game. Let’s return this discussion to the south of the section for a minute please. I’m tired of reading about all of these fanboys.
November 18th, 2010 at 9:52 am
School ‘em PVspartan.
^
I like this GUY^
DON’T SLEEP!!!
November 18th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Calpreps ranks leagues by using the individual rankings of each Team within the league.
Rank League State non-league W-L Top 1000 non-league W-L Top 7000 non-league W-L Average Rating non-league Schedule Strength
1 East Bay North Coast 22-2 4-2 16-2 37.7 18.3
2 Bay Valley North Coast 14-16 0-4 9-15 14.8 16.4
3 Diablo Valley North Coast 17-13 0-1 7-7 11.5 7.2
4 Diablo Foothill North Coast 18-10 0-0 7-9 10.1 3.5
5 Sonoma County North Coast 18-10 0-0 5-6 9.3 0.3
6 Humboldt-Del Norte – Big 3 North Coast 10-6 0-0 2-4 8.5 -1
7 North Bay North Coast 6-18 0-1 5-17 1.8 14.5
8 Marin County North Coast 16-12 0-1 4-10 -1.6 -2.9
9 Hayward Area North Coast 9-14-1 0-3 0-9 -2 4.1
10 North Central I – North North Coast 26-4 0-0 0-2 -2.2 -22.1
11 Bay Shore North Coast 10-13-1 0-1 2-9 -3 1
12 Mission Valley North Coast 8-20 0-2 1-15 -3.1 8.7
13 Alameda Contra Costa North Coast 12-14-1 0-0 2-6-1 -5.9 -6.1
14 Humboldt-Del Norte – Little 4 North Coast 14-10 0-0 0-6 -6.8 -11.6
15 Bay Football North Coast 17-13 0-0 1-8 -9.9 -12.6
16 North Central I – South North Coast 3-27 0-0 0-11 -25.8 -4
17 North Central II North Coast 7-8 0-0 0-0 -44.2 -38.8
November 18th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Calpreps has an option to campare leagues based on each schools individual ranking. No surprise who the top NCS leagues are.
Rank League State non-league W-L Top 1000 non-league W-L Top 7000 non-league W-L Average Rating non-league Schedule Strength
1 East Bay North Coast 22-2 4-2 16-2 37.7 18.3
2 Bay Valley North Coast 14-16 0-4 9-15 14.8 16.4
3 Diablo Valley North Coast 17-13 0-1 7-7 11.5 7.2
4 Diablo Foothill North Coast 18-10 0-0 7-9 10.1 3.5
5 Sonoma County North Coast 18-10 0-0 5-6 9.3 0.3
6 Humboldt-Del Norte – Big 3 North Coast 10-6 0-0 2-4 8.5 -1
7 North Bay North Coast 6-18 0-1 5-17 1.8 14.5
8 Marin County North Coast 16-12 0-1 4-10 -1.6 -2.9
9 Hayward Area North Coast 9-14-1 0-3 0-9 -2 4.1
10 North Central I – North North Coast 26-4 0-0 0-2 -2.2 -22.1
11 Bay Shore North Coast 10-13-1 0-1 2-9 -3 1
12 Mission Valley North Coast 8-20 0-2 1-15 -3.1 8.7
13 Alameda Contra Costa North Coast 12-14-1 0-0 2-6-1 -5.9 -6.1
14 Humboldt-Del Norte – Little 4 North Coast 14-10 0-0 0-6 -6.8 -11.6
15 Bay Football North Coast 17-13 0-0 1-8 -9.9 -12.6
16 North Central I – South North Coast 3-27 0-0 0-11 -25.8 -4
17 North Central II North Coast 7-8 0-0 0-0 -44.2 -38.8
November 18th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Washington-Pinole Valley 2nd round game. Washington does play a rigorous schedule / better than their record. Speaks well they hung in there with Cal in a respectable preseason loss.
November 18th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Anybody see Acalanes beating San Rafael tomorrow night at San Rafael?
November 18th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
To the traveling road Warriors of Del Norte heading south, a good coffee refresher heading south is the Coffee Critic in north Ukiah on State Street. Those guys don’t mess around with their coffee..
November 18th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
EB Football Coach re: #105 – I see what you saying. Those would be some good games. I see Livermore beating Antioch and AV beating Liberty as Livermore already beat Liberty this year. MV beat Pitt once, but Pitt might fare better this time a year. The other 3 would also be very good games.
EBAL #3 Monte Vista – BVAL #1 Pitt
4 Foothill – 2 Heritage
5 Granada – 3 Deer Valley
6 SRV – 4 Freedom
7 AV – 5 Liberty
8 Livermore – 6 Antioch
November 18th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
yes scl i see acalanes beating sr tommorrow……SR has 9 wins but havent been tested yet in 9 games….i think acalanes is more battles tested if they can rattle SR early, SR will be in trouble…..but if SR gets up early and they get their swagger early they will win
November 18th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Yeah Footballfan, I agree. Acalanes’ 5-5 record is a bit misleading, losing to tough teams like Miramonte, Healdsburg, Alhambra, and BEATING a good Ygnacio Valley team early on. But we will definitely find out tomorrow if San Rafael can overcome their Rodney Dangerfield current state..
November 18th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Kinda interesting too, that 9 out the 10 teams Acalanes has played this year are in the NCS playoffs (only exception Dublin High)
November 18th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Dang..Vacaville has put up 69 pts or more their last 5 games. Would be interesting if you had a D2 championship between Vacaville and Concord (if hypothetically both schools played in the same Section)
November 19th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
@ HASaClue – post #80
“Lets put the two best of the Bval against each other so they will nock each other off and maybe two Ebal schools will get another week to play. what a set up.”
exactly! you’re on point on this one. they wanna give ebal the best chances possible to move ahead. you know if srv, foothill, granada had to face either pitt or heritage in the first round. there is a great chance any of those ebal teams won’t make it the second round.