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EBAL stats – 11/17
By Ben Enos
Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 at 1:33 pm in East Bay Football, Stats.
Here’s the latest installment of stats for the East Bay Athletic League. Enjoy!
Rushing (by yards)
| Player | G | Rush | Yards | Avg. | TD |
| Lucas Dunne, De La Salle | 10 | 161 | 1,499 | 9.3 | 26 |
| George Atkinson III, Granada | 10 | 128 | 1,244 | 9.7 | 16 |
| Michael Sullas, Monte Vista | 8 | 171 | 1,103 | 6.4 | 11 |
| Damariay Drew, Livermore | 10 | 107 | 894 | 8.4 | 10 |
| Kyle Alvarez, California | 10 | 110 | 884 | 8.0 | 9 |
Passing (by yards)
| Player | G | Comp | Att | Pct. | Yards | INT | TD |
| Jeff Lockie, Monte Vista | 10 | 140 | 228 | 61.4 | 1,948 | 8 | 21 |
| Drew Reil, California | 10 | 95 | 145 | 65.5 | 1,658 | 6 | 25 |
| Zach Kline, San Ramon Valley | 10 | 121 | 210 | 57.6 | 1,486 | 6 | 7 |
| David Camarena, Foothill | 10 | 108 | 179 | 60.3 | 1,434 | 9 | 11 |
| Kyle Moreno, Amador Valley | 10 | 108 | 229 | 47.2 | 1,431 | 15 | 10 |
Receiving (by receptions)
| Player | G | Rec | Yards | Avg. | TD |
| Bryce McGovern, Monte Vista | 10 | 59 | 920 | 15.6 | 8 |
| Cameron Rowland, Foothill | 10 | 46 | 667 | 14.5 | 6 |
| Tyler Amick, Granada | 10 | 45 | 548 | 12.2 | 2 |
| Dane Turner, Monte Vista | 10 | 35 | 375 | 10.7 | 4 |
| Jake Isabel, Amador Valley | 10 | 35 | 353 | 10.1 | 2 |
Scoring
| Player | G | TD | FG | 2PT | PAT | Tot |
| Lucas Dunne, De La Salle | 10 | 28 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 170 |
| George Atkinson III, Granada | 10 | 19 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 116 |
| Damariay Drew, Livermore | 10 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 84 |
| Kyle Alvarez, California | 10 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 72 |
| Michael Sullas, Monte Vista | 8 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 66 |
Total offense
| Team | G | Rush | Pass | Total | Avg. |
| Monte Vista | 10 | 1,897 | 2,399 | 4,296 | 429.6 |
| De La Salle | 10 | 2,917 | 1,369 | 4,286 | 428.6 |
| California | 10 | 2,351 | 1,888 | 4,239 | 423.9 |
| Granada | 10 | 2,134 | 1,269 | 3,403 | 340.3 |
| Amador Valley | 10 | 1,188 | 1,630 | 2,818 | 281.8 |
| San Ramon Valley | 10 | 1,073 | 1,683 | 2,756 | 275.6 |
| Foothill | 10 | 1,247 | 1,444 | 2,691 | 269.1 |
| Livermore | 10 | 1,722 | 717 | 2,439 | 243.9 |
Total defense
| Team | G | Rush | Pass | Total | Avg. |
| De La Salle | 10 | 980 | 1,199 | 2,179 | 217.9 |
| California | 10 | 1,418 | 1,184 | 2,602 | 260.2 |
| San Ramon Valley | 10 | 1,499 | 1,332 | 2,831 | 283.1 |
| Foothill | 10 | 1,418 | 1,665 | 3,083 | 308.3 |
| Granada | 10 | 1,834 | 1,526 | 3,360 | 336.0 |
| Monte Vista | 10 | 2,209 | 1,273 | 3,482 | 348.2 |
| Amador Valley | 10 | 1,642 | 1,891 | 3,533 | 353,3 |
| Livermore | 10 | 2,191 | 1,708 | 3,899 | 389.9 |
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November 17th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Drew Reil has just had an amazing season this year at QB leading the 9-1 Grizzlies. Although Lockie has slightly more yards, Reil has thrown 83 less passes and is the leader in just about every other category. Reil has thrown for 11.4 yards per attempt to 8.5 for Lockie. Reil has a much better TD to INT ratio and also has the highest completion percentage. Not bad at all for a first time starting QB who nobody had ever heard of, while Kline, Lockie and Houston got all the preseason build up.
November 17th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Ya Reil will be first team qb. I’m guessing with those stats. Curious to see if Houston makes it on 2nd team. He has 30 less passing attempts than Reil for 1,411 yards with 13 TD’s and 4 INT’s (this according to maxpreps). Also a 64% completion rate. I have a feeling though that Lockie will get 2nd team.
Dunne obvious choice for MVP and 1st team RB. Curious to see who the other one is. Could be Alvarez or Sullas or Atkinson. I think more likely Atkinson gets put at 1st team UTIL or whatever they call it. McGovern and Rowland at WR. Don’t know about TE. OL is probably Wynn and then not sure after that. Maybe Pearson and Garwood. All DLS linemen should make either first or second team though imo.
November 17th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
I agree, Reil is impressive given his fairly recent appearance. What is also deceptive is the quality of receivers Reil is throwing to. He regularly throws to Sarmenta but also to Taft, Alverez, Deans, Krause, and Washington, all of whom can catch.
November 17th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
I think that Lockie gets first team and Reil second.
November 17th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
I think that Alverez is on second team and Wynn is further down than expected for reasons you would need to ask Coach Lad about. All just grumblings I have heard.
November 17th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Reil is a very good HS QB.
Can’t see him translating to D1, but he is a tough kid.will be interesting to see if Kline lives up to his hype next year.
November 17th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
I think if Sullas had played against Cal and Livermore he gets 1st team with Dunne he would have had close to 1400 yds in a very tough league plus more TD’s. I give the nod to Alveraz for 1st team he played really well and did it both thru the air and ground with limited carries. So Dunne/Alveraz then Sullas/Atkinson. Receivers you got McGovern who just made so many spectacular catches this year I can’t tell you then Rowland who really was Foothills offense for 1st team then Sarmenta for the back of the end zone catch alone against DLS and #85 from DLS sorry I forgot his name Sharpiro? For TE I thnk Taft 1st team and Adam Wenig from MV made some big catches. Lineman Welter, Wynn, Mustion, Garwood, and the other Big boy from CAL Pearson o think. QB it is between Reil and Lockie gotta remember Lockie is a junior and didn’t play a lot either he has really grown into the position but Reil has had a great run..
Good for all the boys they deserve whatever praise they get…
November 17th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
I think Reil gets a mention but is hurt by the preseason hype
November 17th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
I’ve heard that Reil is a mention while Lockie gets first team and Houston get’s 2nd. Seems a little weird, but okay.
November 17th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Wow, what more could Reil have done? I guess he had no real chance at All league if that is true.
November 17th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I would be a little surprised if only one DLS linemen is 1st team all league. I forgot about Welter he probably makes it. But I would think between Walsh, Simeona, Cabral, and Hamilton one of them makes first team as well. Hard to argue with how good the O-line has been this year.
November 17th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Lockie was the most deserving of first team. He had to come in this year with barely any experience and was competing for the starting job. Once he proved himself to Bergman he really took off with back to back 300 yard passing games. He had a lot of interceptions at the beginning of the season and then settled into the position and through only a few in the second half of the season. Every game he improved and the team improved along with him. No doubt he deserved first team.
November 17th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I’m not saying that Lockie isn’t deserving, but just what does Reil need to do? He also came in with barely any experience, less than Lockie as a matter of fact. He didn’t throw a lot of interceptions at any point in the season. He led a Cal High team that the Times and most people had picked for 6th place in the EBAL to a 9-1 record and a near upset of DLS. He beat Lockie head to head 45-3, and was in top form in just about evry game except maybe Amador, which they won 37-7 anyway. Reil, like Houston, was out of most games by the 3rd quarter, or he would have thrown the ball much more and amassed more yards.
I just don’t know how much more you can ask of a young man. If he didn’t get selected 1st or 2nd team All league, it is a shame. And no I’m not Mr. Reil.
November 17th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Yea the lack of experience thing probably wasn’t the right route to go there Shwill. Reil had never started a game in his life, including youth football, coming into this season.
November 17th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Johnny Sarmenta of Cal Hi leads EBAL in WR TD’s with 10. Leads EBAL yds per catch. Has highest TD per catch ratio…stats are not the end all. Anybody who saw his toe dance on Comcast with the fourth quarter TD to bring Cal within 6 of dls would say top TWO EBAL receiver…that was a) an impossible catch b)ridiculous to know where he was relative to the endline and c)he STILL got his big toe down for the six in a big time game at a big time juncture. This is his third year on varsity and he’s been quietly doing exactly that act from day one. All-League, if the Head Coaches vote as they should, give major props to the contributions from the player to HIS team and their success and not necessarily the leaderboard. He is a MAJOR weapon in the very balanced-successful attack of the Grizzly arsenal.
November 17th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Lockie had never even considered playing quarterback until freshman year. It is pretty amazing how he could have gotten that good in two years.
November 17th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
CHS, well said about No. 4 but the fact is Cal has so many options that when other teams doubled Sarmenta Riel just went to Taft, Alvarez, Washington, etc. so he didn’t get the ball (he’s a definite D-1 prospect). In regards to Reil (Smart Kid + Worked Hard + Kravitz + OLine gave him time = Great Season)
November 17th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Lockie had to overcome way more adversery this year then reil. He was not even considered the full time starter until about week 4. He has lost his starting runningback multiple times during this year and had to lead this team. Reil played more like a caretaker this year for an incredibly talented cal team. Lockie had to step up and be the guy for the mustangs this year. You can talk about how Bart and reil were pulled early in games but then you can also say the same about mv blowouts and the games early in the season were he split time. Although reil did beat lockie in the head to head match up i would look for a a much closer game if they meet again in the semis.
November 17th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
The main thing with Lockie is that he didn’t really start playing well until midway through the season. It was after the DLS game that he started throwing out big numbers. Reil has been doing it all season and as has been pointed out did not play many if any full games outside of DLS.
For Houston it’s tough because he plays in the veer system. They don’t need him to pass much and especially when they are blowing teams out of the water you can be sure that he is not going to be throwing.
One thing I have never gotten about the EBAL stats is why the receiving stats are ordered based on amount of receptions. The rushing totals are not ordered by number of rushes and passing totals are not ordered by anything other than yards. So why are the receiving totals not done in that matter? Shapiro has 487 yards receiving and Sarmenta and Taft are both around the 465 mark and they don’t even have complete stats listed on maxpreps with the DLS game missing from their stats. Ben just curious why receiving stats are put in order of receptions in this case?
November 17th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
R10 becuase they run the veer a dls qb wont win all league, unless you have a crazy good dual threat qb like blake wayne a couple of years ago. they just wont have the stats. that is also why dls rbs will always win because they have a dominant team and a running system. making sullas’s prefomace at mv even more impressive with their passing system. There is no doubt that mv qbs beniifit from the system but lockie’s year was still pretty impressive
November 17th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Just learned the boys were told of the selections for all league, apparently they were chosen on Sunday…most of your predictions are right gentlemen…I don’t want to ruin the surprise of the official announcement, but based on the names being thrown around on this blog, most of you are right…good night!
November 18th, 2010 at 12:29 am
the coaches choose the all league selections and if they chose lockie over reil, then it was truly because lockie played better. however both did a great job this season and a cal mv rematch would probly end up a lot closer the second time around
November 18th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Anyone who saw Cal vs MV would never vote for Lockie over Reil.
November 18th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
23. That is not a true statement, I was there. The MV defense played horribly in that game, the Cal receivers were wide open. Almost any decent HS QB could have hit those targets.
November 18th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Cal crushed MV and deserved the win no doubt. In MV denfense they probably played their worst game of the season but with the Sullas injury and Lockie really just getting a feel for the job it hurt them. I think it would be a much better game that hopefully we will see in the Semi’s.
November 18th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
MV Alum – I agree mostly. Lockie has the confidence and experience in the offense now. But the MV coaching staff will have to do a much better job of coaching from behind.
November 18th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
re: 24. The fact that “Cal receivers were wide open” shoudn’t be somehow held against Reil. He still hit the moving targets and engineered the big win. Lockie also had some wide open targets in that game and either missed them badly on some ocassions, or threw good passes and they were dropped. Other times, the Cal defense just shut them down. There is no doubt that Reil outplayed Lockie in that game.
There is no doubt that if a MV-Cal rematch is held in the semis, that it would be a much closer game. How could it not be? That petty much goes without saying, and is about the safest bet going. I don’t know anyone who thinks Cal would win today by more than 42 points. Not only because everything that could go wrong did for the Mustangs in that game, and all went Cal’s way (i.e. 99 yard fumble return), but because MV has improved, will most likely have Sullas playing, and will be very motivated for that rematch, should it occur. If this rematch transpires, it ought to be a good hard fought battle. Still much football to be played prior to that possible rematch though.
November 18th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
If MV doesn’t improve their run defense to at least a speed bump-Cal will roll them again… although MV certainly will score more points than last time.
November 18th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
G-scout I think that MV has worked out a lot of the issues they were having on the Defensive side of the ball over the last 4 weeks but your right they need to control the ball better, getting Sullas back should help with that, and if they are down don’t panic. I just want to see them play again.
November 18th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
MV Alum- your being modest. I’ve seen the Granada and SRV tapes vs. MV. They have improved the defense by moving McGovern close to the line of scrimmage. I’m also seeing Sullas playing some run defense. If Bruce and Turner can continue to play solid coverage in the secondary. We should see a much closer game.
November 18th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Reil deserves it and Cal will blow out MV again. Lockie and MV system throws the ball twice as often as Houston so the stats are the stats. Houston will just have to settle for NCS Championship and State Bowl, AGAIN!
November 18th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Can’t see much argument if either Houston or Reil get first team
November 18th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I think Lockie will get it, he played really well against LV,AV,SRV, and Foothill with a good game against Grananda the coaches vote and they look at the games he played against them and decide, it really doesn’t matter if Reil beat him head to head the only coach who saw that live was Coach B so if these other coaches think Lockie was the better QB they are going to vote for him. That is why I said earlier if Sullas plays against Livermore and Cal he would get the votes but since he didn’t he won’t get 1st team probably 2nd team but without him MV is AV in my opinion.
November 18th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
31 there is no way houston deserves first team. He plays for a far supperior team then both lockie and reil. this is an individual award not a team award. In the dls system you have to throw 9 in the box to attempt to stop it. therefore it is always single coverage on the outside. and the cbs are looking in the backfeild as well. the only passes that houston throws are jump balls and swing passes. definatly not the most difficult throws.
November 18th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Bigeasy- it is obvious you have not seen Houston play. He is the most accurate, strongest armed QB in the EBAL. He has been clutch all year (especially on third down). His running of the veer is a bit under rated as well (he is no Blake Wayne in thsat dept- but very solid). He is the clearest D1 talent of this years crop of QB’s.
If you are going to discount Houston because of his team’s success- does that mean Dunne does not deserve recognition? or Wynn? Or Renaud? The coaches do a solid job of making the selections- this year it will be Reil or Houston.
Lockie will not be considerd for 1st team because he played poorly in the two most important games of the EBAL season.
November 18th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Junior: Houston is not the most accurate or stongest armed. if we are going to go on sheer talent alone then Kline would win seeing as he preformed that best at the QB camps over the summer were D1 tools (accuracy and strength) are tested. Secondly how can you account for handing the ball of when judgeing a quarterback. that is like judgeing a point guard by whether he can bring the ball up the floor or not. If they cant do it then they are just bad, you can not be cosidered good if you hand the ball off. I am going to discount huston becuase he sitts behind the best line in ebal and throws to recivers who are in man on man coverage and are not even the primary concern of the offense. You can not tell me that Houston has been clutch all year when he has played in like 2 second halfs (Cal and BG, they could be more just the two that came to mind) the whole year. I think Dunne is a great player and is clearly going to win MVP but he does get downgraded becuase a dls running back does that every single year. it is starting to seems like anyone could play running back there. Wynn and Renaud are great players btws.
mark my words you can come back to this post and look at it but i guarantee you that lockie wins 1st team
November 18th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Kline is going to Cal enough said. is any other QB committed… NOPE
November 18th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
So now you are down grading Houston AND Dunne? Do you watch any games?
Lockie aint no nottingham…
November 18th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Kline wins first-team EBAL QB to committ!
November 18th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
well i am clearly downgrading Houston. And while dunne is not down graded as much he still gets a knock becuase of the system and the domminace of the team. just like lockie gets a knock for his syestem and reil gets a knock for his dominant team. You are right lockie is not nottingham and not close to the level he was on last year but if you are anywhere near him you are a pretty dam good QB. Lockies jr numbers are similar to nottinghams jr numbers. i am not saying that we should look for a nottingham type season from lockie next year but anything is possible
November 18th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Yes i do indeed. I have seen Houston play and he throws the ball 5 times a game, if we are talking about All League Honors you don’t rank someone on how dominant their team is, DLS can get anyone under the sun. You rank someone on how good of a player (or QB) they are and i’m just saying usually a player with a scholarship to a D1 school is pretty good. I didn’t say ONE word about Dunne. He is a good little back with a good O-Line. Lockie on the other hand throws the ball significantly more than anyone in the league thus having more yards, completions, and touchdowns.I have seen all three play and Lockie and Houston have different threats to help the offense, but in contrast Kline is the only threat to his offense. how well he does in a game is how well his team does.
November 18th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
hey junior that was hallerious do u have time to tell that again..HAHAHAHAHAH wow u should become a comedian or something thats good stuff
November 18th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Hey guys wow wow lets play nice here, all the QB’s had great seasons and i’m really looking forward to some great postseason play now lets have nice good conversations please theres little kids who read these!
November 18th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
If the outcome a San Ramon game is based on how good Kline plays than he must not have played well at all based on their record. And the only reason they won the foothill game is because they benched Kline and put Love in for the game winning drive. So their record could have been worse without Love coming in to save the game.
November 18th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Lockie only has 18 more pass attempts than Kline and a little less than 500 more passing yards and 14 more td passes. That comparison is not even close.
I guarantee that Lockie will win first team.
November 18th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
I Saw that game… What a thriller. Kline was taken out because he got hurt but who cares there in playoffs so there season wasn’t that bad mister. Jeepers Creepers Kline’s going to Cal who cares.
November 18th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Shwilldawg, alot of that has to do with play calling and Lockie has a D1 receiver which helps a ton too. Lockie has had a great season though. But if Lockie was so much better wouldn’t he have a scholarship?… HMMMMM
November 18th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Hey guys i saw that game between foothill and SRV and Kline got hurt. But anyways Kline is going to Cal who cares
November 18th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
First off, Houston will not win 1st team qb. A DLS qb will almost never win 1st team qb unless they get a real dual threat who can make the throws and has the athleticism to burn teams with their legs. That type of player would put up the stats. Or if the other qb’s in the league are just real bad which never happens. But, Houston was thought of very highly this last summer as well. He has one major issue that he will have to work on this coming offseason. It doesn’t play a big role at this level, but it will at the next. He also has been very clutch this year as a leader, something that does not show up in the stat book. That being said, Houston does have the biggest arm in the league. Kline is more accurate. Lockie is probably the best overall athlete of the bunch. They are all good.
But, I believe that Reil does deserve the 1st team award. He has been doing it all year from start to finish.
November 18th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
As to what happened to Kline during the year though, I have no clue. I watched him throw last year and was pretty impressed with how accurate he was. He got rave reviews about that this summer. But he has had a lot of struggles this year.
November 18th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
62-14, very impressive showing by MV
November 18th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
any one see tha soccer game last night it was a thriller
November 18th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
thats a high soccer score
November 18th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Kline has all the tools but never put it together this year. You can blame it on system, coaching, his team, or his reads. At the end of the day he did not have a good enough seasons to be first team. Houston is no doubt a good football player but has not done anything special this year. Therefore it comes down to Lockie and Reil. Reil was a caretaker and was only dominant due to the team he was on. Lockie was a player and leader he might have taken a little bit longer to devolp but regardless of what team he is playing for he is goingt put up numbers and he is going to make plays.
November 18th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Yeah because Lockie doesn’t have any talent to throw the ball to. Just the state record holder in receptions and yardage from last season. Not many QBs get to step into such a nice situation as that. That was a big reason that Lockie had so much preseason hype, because he had such great receivers to throw to. Yet, it took him 5 games to get going, which just happened to include the Cal, DLS and Serra games. So he really got it done against the lower division teams. And although Lockie had 83 more passing attempts, Reil threw for more TDs.
I’m sure Lockie got the votes for 1st team QB, as it sounds like that was already stated on here several times. But for Reil was asked to do, he sure did it well. Had one of the more heralded QBs like Lockie, Houston or Kline had the stats and overall record that Reil has, they would have been a first team selection without even a second thought.
November 19th, 2010 at 12:07 am
This is so silly — but fun to read — basically congats to all three…you all had great years..p.s. only of the three gets a state ring and that will be the QB who will be undefeated as as starter,(the only one)coming into his senior year. I’ll take state champ over EBAL all-star anyday.
November 19th, 2010 at 5:31 am
#40
So Dunne gets downgraded because of the DLS run system, but Lockie doesn’t get downgraded for MV’s pass system? Every year you know DLS will have a good/great running game, while MV will have a good/great passing game. You can’t downgrade Dunne, without downgrading Lockie considering some of the weapons he has to throw to.
November 19th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Lockie first team NO DOUBT
Riel second team
Kline gets nothing…sorry Tedford
November 19th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Using whether or not a young man has committed is no measure of how good a kid is, Kline is OK but Tedford may not be there to honor what was a snap decsion at best. The kid from Cal has done an outstanding job, he deserves and should be first team, he has gotten it done with just a summer to prepare, and the addition of Kravitz fully fanifested itself in the development of that young man.
November 19th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Period, it is obvious you a little woozy this morning when you posted #56. As good as the Green Machine is, I wouldn’t be getting anyone sized for that state ring just yet, until all the games are played and they are crowned champions. There is a lot of football yet to be played. DLS may very well win it all this year, but it is posts like yours that give DLS boosters a bad name.
November 19th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Yeah, a little premature..don’t want to jinx…my point was more about Bart, if this is a thread regarding QB 1st team, the kid is 24-0 as a starter. Says something…
November 19th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Not doubting that the kid has won a lot of games, but 24? I know he has started all 10 this year and took over after the preseason last year which should have given him about another 10 games. You must be counting the upcoming playoffs in that 24 figure?
It is hard to guage the impact a QB like Reil or Houston has when the team is winning most games by at least 4 TDs. Especially when the starters go out early and even when in they are running the ball to keep the clock running and not running up the score. Cal uses Reil in the normal offense more than DLS uses Houston, so he has more impressive stats. Both Reil and Houston were imnpressive on Friday night against each other.
November 19th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
david i am not sure if i mentioned it earlier but i do downgrade lockie for his system because you have to take into account the conditions a player is put under and how it effects their play.
If i were voting for all east bay, i would take into account how each qb would preform if they were put into another situation. So what would happen if reil played at mv or dls. What about if lockie played at dls or cal. What about houston at mv or cal. Or how would they all do at AV or Livermore. this way i feel we can get a better understanding of how good a player is and who actually deserves first team.
November 19th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
EBAL All-League QB is one of the closest competitions in years with 3 clear high achievers. Each utilized all the available weapons effectively. The most effective lobbyist (coach) will win this one.
Houston – proven winner developing strong leadership skills, but needs to develop a touch pass, probably D1.
Lockie – throws the best deep ball, but did not look good at all against CAL, probably D2.
Reil – throws ball-control passes in a ball-control system, deep game is not his strength, probably D2.
That was alphabetic…would like to see Reil win it, but won’t be surprised if the MV-factor plays in.
November 19th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
ok
So Lockie out plays Kline last week who is going D1.
Lockie did not look good against Cal— the reason– the whole MV team played badly.
Ok, Lockie plays in a system where you throw a lot, it either works or it does not. Meaning the QB either gets the ball where it can be caught or he does not.
Lockie did.
Next yr will be fun to watch, Lockie, Houston and Kline.
No McGovern at MV next yr but many talented Jrs from this year to catch the ball.
SRV has many talented Jrs this year as does DLS.
Buckle up as we finish this yr and get ready for next yr!!
November 19th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
64 i agree with everything you said except i think lockie will go D1. A potential match-up between Cal and MV in the Semis with both QBs playing at there top level will answer a lot of questions about both QBs future.
November 19th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
I believe that lockie is the best out of the three quarterbacks. He has the most yards by 300 and the only reason Houston is getting any recognition is because he is playing for the “Green Machine.” If he was on any other team in EBAL he wouldnt be even in the running. He is nothing without Dunne and his offensive line.
November 19th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
I think a good route for Reil might be JC. He needs a little bit more experience starting, but I think he has some good tools and Kravitz was great for him. Size isn’t great, but enough that I think he could play at the next level. He’s definitely got the ability to play at the FCS level maybe a Davis or Cal Poly type kid. That’s the route Blake Wayne went and now he’s at Fordham playing.
The EBAL will never be lacking for good QB’s. There is always going to be a discussion about who the best is. I thought they did it right last year giving both Mannion and Nottingham the award. I’m not one to advocate for ties, but there really was no way to distinguish one over the other last year.
November 19th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
The most important QB stats for determing personal acheivement are TDs and passing as percentage of total offense. Reil had most TDs. He clearly had he most help other than Houston, but hard to argue with 25 TDs. He should be first. Who had the highest percentage of offense – Kline. No question he should have thrown more TDs But his comp percentage and yards would have been top 1 or 2 without all the drops (look at Danville patch articles about the games – several mention the drops) – and he was a bigger part of offense than others. Look at the passing stats above compared to total offense. Lockie had a better stat season but had an awful lot of help too. The best thing for a QBs stats is a good rushing attack. Who had that? Houston and Reil and Lockie. Put Kline in the Cal or MV offense and you get better stats. Better than Lockie or Reil did- who knows. Put Reil and Lockie in SRV offense and they have worse stats. Would they have then done better than Kline did. Again who knows. But they were the class of the league. They either had great stats on a great team or very good stats on a so so team. At DLS here were so so stats on a great great team. I think Reil #1 based on TDs and Lockie and Kline next in either order based on which you think is better – great stars in a great offense or wry ops stats in a mediocre offense.
November 19th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Last line – great stats in a great offense or very very good stats in a so so offense. Sorry about typos.
November 20th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Reil is a tough kid, great competitor, but I cant see him translating to the next level. Slow release, average strength arm keeps him back.
November 20th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
I’m not even sure if Reil is looking to play at the next level. This is the only year he has ever played QB. Heck, he’s probably just happy to be playing this year. But what a year it has been thus far. Reil sat out last night’s laugher vs. Castro Valley, as did most of the seniors.
A look at the box score and you see no mention of familiar names Reil, Alvarez or Taft, and their leading tackler Prenot sat out as well. Sarmenta ran that first punt back for a TD and caught 1 pass, but was out of the game in the 1st quarter. The junior class (and soph call ups) picked up the ball and ran with it without skipping a beat. Washington had 2 carries for 88 yards and 2 TDs. Ezaburio had 74 yards and a TD, while Soph call up Karris Johnson ran for over 100 yards and a TD on over 10 yards per carry. Junior Kevin Farley also filled in amirably at QB.