- East Bay Prep Corner
NCS Div. I and Div. II football championships live blog here Saturday
By Jon Becker
Saturday, December 11th, 2010 at 11:04 am in Uncategorized.
Join our North Coast Section football championship live blog Saturday, starting with De La Salle vs. California in the North Coast Section Division I championship at the Coliseum at 4 p.m. We’ll also bring you live results from the Concord vs. Rancho Cotate Division II championship at 7 p.m.
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December 11th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
how much does it cost to get in game??
December 11th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
General admission is $12.
December 11th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Lets go RICKY! baby!.. do it fo the East bay!.. public schools!… Concord all they way!
December 11th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
DLS band playing Cal fight song at 7-0… That’s cold, man!
December 11th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Dls 3 turnovers
7-7 end of first
December 11th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Anyone got the Salesian score?
December 11th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
De La needs to take care of business in the second half. Pressure the QB.
December 11th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
I think the Salesian’s game starts at 7pm …
December 11th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Congrats to DLS on a very impressive win tonight.
Lady Luck simply did not have enough Lucky Dust to help an excellent Cal high team win vs. a better DLS team.
Another one bites the…dust
December 11th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
I have a question for everyone. What do you think of DLS being able to have players from any district play for them. I am not talking about recruiting. I just don’t see how it leads to a fair game against any of the EBAL teams.
December 11th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
If anyone has a link or blog for Salesian / Middletown game please post . Live radio??? Any scores they can post as game goes along would be great Thanks!
December 11th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
KillerD, snakes eyes, you loose sucka!
Looks like Big Joe and YoMama are the last 2 bloggers standin’.
You’ve been a good sport all season.
December 11th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Again, talented CAL High players disappointed in the last game of their careers. It hurts. It’s supposed to hurt. DLS has put a lot of gunslingers in their graves over the years. Especially QBs’.
December 11th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
Those cal boys gave it all they got–they did not disappoint.
December 11th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
anywhere to get live score updates?
December 11th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
YoMama……..thanks for mentioning yours truly even in defeat, it’s nice to get compliments anytime.
You have been good too
December 11th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
They must be rockin’ at Rocco’s tonite.
December 11th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
You know what coulda happened? De La could have hung another 21 on the grizzlies- that would have been 70 pts- they left some scores on that field early. Need to take care of complete business in LA. If Cal went to LA they would have been massacred. I’m walkin’ the dog down San Ramon Valley Blvd. tonite, lot’s of cryin’.
December 11th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I heard the Gorman staff was in town looking for their ex-boys to pull an upset. You should stick with your Catholic Bros. and support the De La crowd. You left your public roots to move to greener pastures. Remember, Bishop Gorman ranks a lot higher playing a team they lost to who is 13-00 and NCS champs.
December 11th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
DeLa was on full tilt as usual tonite, it looked like they were running down hill all nite. Remember, there’s speed and then there’s DeLa speed.
December 11th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Congratulations on a great season Grizzlies!!!!
December 11th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Yes it may be true: Sanchez & Manual gone, DLS joining EBAL and turning everyone else into running for second in EBAL and NCS, but hey, life works out, and moral reasons stand behind why this team wins and that team loses. Trust me, 12-2 will get u far.
December 11th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Gorman staff wasn’t in the Bay, they are down South filming Servite for their game next year.
December 11th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Interesting, I ran into 2 of them on holiday vacation yesterday. They both said they were pulling for Cal. Mabey the main contingent is in the south.
December 11th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Gorman against Cal? Gorman against Sevite? Wow so interesting!
December 11th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
per an article on them at maxpreps it said that Sanchez was heading South this weekend.
December 12th, 2010 at 1:23 am
Sanchez who?
December 12th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Sanchez, ex- head coach for Cal High, now head coach for Gorman who just won the Newvada state championship and are ranked nationally, bye the way lost to DLS 28-14 this year.
December 12th, 2010 at 9:03 am
no really, Sanchez who!
December 12th, 2010 at 9:47 am
State bowl predictions:
OPEN De La Salle vs Servite
D1 Palo Alto vs Centennial
D2 Folsom vs Serra
D3 Cardinal Newman vs Madison*
SMALL Brookside Christian vs Bishop’s**
* The toughest one to predict, Escalon and/or Washington Union could be in the bowl.
**Bishop’s enrollment is lower than any other southern D3 school with over 500 people and only two section champions (Paraclete and View Park) are under 500. That’s why they qualify.
December 12th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Renagades and Silver Green, you got your reservations yet? It’s been good all year supporting the Brotherhood. We know DLS will represent well for all of Northern California. Win or loose, that’s FIVE straight invites out of 5 years of bowl existance.
December 12th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Old Meddling and crew, why no congrats on DeLa?
Gave Jets cudos when they beat the Marin brie and white wine fans. Cardinal Newman was going to be a tough one, excellent coaching staff and a storied history dating back to the early seventies with Percy Grogan and co. It didn’t hurt that Jerry Robinson(UCLA and Raiders) also starred there.
Where doe Encinal go next season, the ACCAL? How do you see them matching up with BHJS and Pinole Valley?
December 12th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Yes, had them for a few weeks….getting the rental car today taking the little ones to see the mouse afterwards…home depot here we come!
December 12th, 2010 at 10:18 am
They might bring in the Pope down at Carson, lots of private programs. Could take a collection up in the stands.
December 12th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Coach Bellici needs to call Coach Galli, they need to atone for their sins in coaching against De La.
December 12th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Yo mama, you crazy man, lmao!
December 12th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Good job De LA I don’t think anybody doubted you’d go all the way. BSAL for one last year then as of today the HAAL but still has to go through another process. Jets as every year are young & will stay young until they can get more the 45 kids out for football.Good & bad cuz there are a lot of returners coming back. 14 Var returners but all 14 won’t be on the team. Some will move, not play ect…Just hope this next class will have kids that will lead vocally & by example. Anybody knows the Jest this year leadership & maturity was missing. I can’t believe they even made it this far. The coaching staff did its best job in the last 5 years other then that substitution penalty (LOL) didn’t have as many good players as the last 2 years.
Time to hybernate until the summer.
December 12th, 2010 at 11:12 am
LOL Big Joe
December 12th, 2010 at 11:13 am
I would like to see Escalon get the Div III invite
December 12th, 2010 at 11:26 am
Good laughs this morning big and yo mama!
December 12th, 2010 at 11:41 am
Yomama you were making sense until post 18, then the church wine musta got to your head… De La played great but 4 key mistakes by the Cal O that turned into scores and questionable play calling by Cal’s Coaching staff were the difference. A public high shool can’t make mistakes against a team of regional all-stars that are that well prepared and expect to win…
December 12th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Monarch, I agree with you that the turnovers killed Cal, the fact they did not capitalize on the spartan’s mistakes did not help their cause. One thing is certain, DLS cannot make those early mistakes against the likes of Servite or CC…Cal had a great year, those boys should be proud of their accomplishments!
December 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
It’s official
DLS v Servite
Paly v CC
Folsom v Serra G
CID announcement on facebook according to the wife
December 12th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Congrats to the teams who qualified for Carson, especially to small town power Escalon..
December 13th, 2010 at 12:15 am
Congrats to DLS and good luck in Carson. DLS outplayed a determined Cal Grizzly squad yesterday and handed them their only 2 losses in what has been their best team in the history of the school.
Alvarez had a great game for Cal, rushing for 100 yards on just 9 carries, after a so-so game vs. De La the 1st time around in November. Houston showed up big after those first two fumbles and outplayed Reil who got rattled in the 2nd quarter when the 14-7 lead went to 28-7 in about 1 minute right before halftime. After watching Reil all year, that was the only stretch he had like that, and much of that has to be attributed to the DLS defense.
Still Cal scored 21 points, which is the most anyone has scored on DLS since early last season. Playing DLS twice this year has to be great experience for the Grizz players who will be returning next season, especially the JV call ups who saw and got to battle with the best NorCal has to offer last night. Best of luck to the Spartans in defending their state open championship.
December 13th, 2010 at 12:19 am
And congratulations to the Concord Minutemen on their thrilling last minute victory last night. It is too bad they are not going to Carson, just like Mack, and will have to be content with knowing they went as far as they could go. Hopefully one day there will be some form of state playoff that is decided on the field. It’s been a great year of football this year, and we should see some compelling games next week to top it off. Good luck to all the NorCal reps.
December 13th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
De La Salle is just way too much. They do have the best coach in the area but there are things that aren’t fair. They have the best athletes at the skill positions. The other schools have to deal with what they are dealt with as in district school lines and DLS doesn’t.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
De la salle should be like norte dame navy and temple… play most their games in the out of league and travel and play better oppenents.. They crush every team every year in league.. its just not fair, over the years bval teams have had better chances of beating them.. 91 pittsburg team beat de la and a copule of teams have gotten close to beaten them
December 13th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
between Cal in 08 and 10, AV in 09, and MV in 09 four close games in three years is not something the BVAL did even when DLS was semi-independent and yes I know they tied Clayton one year. DLS is not a traveling roadshow. These are 16-18 year old kids. Who the hell are they going to play after the fifth week of the season? At that point every section is into league play. I think that if Castro Valley gets added to the EBAL, DLS should be able to back to being quasi-independent. 5 non-league games, and then 5 games against the top 5 EBAL teams of the previous year which more often than not will be Cal, MV, SRV, AV, and Foothill. They wouldn’t be eligible for the league title, and a win/loss would not count for/against the EBAL team in the league standings.
December 13th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Renegades10- after 50 years of de la salle being in leagues im pretty freakin tired of them crushing every team.. dont you think? ahahaha i mean its very boring and i highly recommend this change.. who wants to see our local schools getting beat up.. independent will help them boost their strength of schdule.
December 13th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I agree with BVAL Expert, in the ideal world, DLS would play as an independent, like how national basketball powerhouse Findlay Prep of Las Vegas does. I agree with Renegades though that after week 5 it’s tricky, because most teams are locked into their respective league plays, and take their mandated bye weeks. I agree that it’s not an even playing field, when DLS has won 19 consecutive NCS titles. I don’t know very many public schools that have such a streak..
December 13th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Finally, a proposal that has reason to it but I am worried about how it would effect this blog (what would we complain about if not the evil empire?). Let’em play Don Bosco, Southlake, St. T.A. etc. then enter a league with other schools who can draw across an entire Region and actually pay thier coaches to coach.
December 13th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Would this have been brought up if Cal won on Saturday? Likely not…the evil empire is dammed one way or the other…
December 13th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
If Cal had won it still would have been brought up. DLS has an advantage over the public’s yet in discussion with their fans they don’t want to admit it. Lad know’s he can’t win with the talent in Concord so he has to bring in skill players from outside the area. Jones-Drew, Oakland, DJ Williams, Berkely, Toomer ? Where does Bart Huston live? I’ll give you a hint it’s not Concord. What really hurts EBAL is how realignment is decided on. DLS did not want to join EBAL but had to join a league. DLS doe not respect the league. Castro Valley wants in. Livermore wanted out but was voted down on each of its proposals by the principal’s in the other leagues that it wanted to join. My proposal if for DLS to move to the OAL. It has open enrollment among its public’s.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
What a croc about DLS recruiting again. DLS draws from artound the EastBay’s Catholic grammar schools- that’s the way it works son. If parents want their kids to go to DLS then it’s their choice. Toomer’s parents choose DLS after they visited St. Mary’s in Berkeley- fact- ask Shag about the interview. Jones came out of a Pittsburg Catholic grammer school, DJ came out of Hercules with his Mother working 2w jobs to send her son there. You’ll never understand, because you can’t understand the surroundings that foster a brotherhood program that they have. You don’t understand 30 plus years of coaching, assts there for 20 plus. You don’t understand accountability in the classroom and on and off the field, making for more dedicated and smarter football players. You don’t understand God and country, 2 concepts lost in public schools. You don’t understand strengh and conditioning, year round commitment, look at their players, even 2nd and 3rd team plyaers are in great shape. What do really don’t understand is that they could field girls and still beat you, because they take their business seriously.
Bye the way, Houston is from Danville like many other students who are not atheletes.
If you think that all these successful programs don’t have kids from all over including out of district then you must be smokin’ your newspaper in Humbolt County.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I’ll tell you what, successful teams want DeLaSalle on their schedule. The super teams have no problem scheduling them. Pittsburg never had an issue playing them, they looked foward to it.
It’s all sour grapes as usual. They can join the WCAL but they don’t really want them because they whipped up on them for years- ask Bellarmine. See, all those schools have recruiting advantages too(it’s called hard work). Spend a year with them and you’ll understand.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
If you rookies think De La is dominant now, you should of checked out those streak years.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Big Joe,in an odd way you not only miss the point but at the same time reinforce the argument against DLS?
Regarding post 53 “that’s why they’re evil…”
December 13th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Little Joe: was recruiting ever mentioned? Thank you for at least admitting that these kids are not from the local area.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Actually here’s a little something for you guys from last week’s chat in case you missed it.
“Ben Enos: Actually, we never did anything with it last year, but that DLS team was almost entirely from around the school and a good portion this year is as well. That’s a fact that goes unreported too often. Renaud and Wynn, arguably their two best players, are neighborhood kids.”
Care to respond?
December 13th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Houston is from Danville, just like his Grandpa who was at the Peter Villa Trophy Luncheon today, McGovern won, Garwood and Egan runners up
December 13th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Post #60, Let me see, “almost entirely” and “a good portion” the public’s can’t have “almost entirely” and ” a good portion” if so: those individuals would be called ineligble and the result would be called “forfits”.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Silvergreen and Renagades, how come Long Beach Poly, Mater Dei, Mission Viejo, Clovis, Buchanan, Serra, etc. have no problem playing the Spartans? How come those coaches and fans don’t whine and bitch?
Because they run high quality programs and act like grown men.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Ebal 5, you don’t know your Bay Area football, BHS has had out of district and area for years on all sorts of teams, Miramonte had a QB who played at Miami from out of the area including a running back, The MV QB Wright who also played at Miami came from Napa, McClymonds had several from outside the district several years back. All Catholic high schools have students from all over, these are just a few examples, most people and coaching staffs don’t talk about it, because when you do it’s assumed it’s recruiting.
I never saw anyone complain and say they had an unfair advantage.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
YoMama, Correct me if I’m wrong but the schools you mentioned choose to play DLS, EBAL schools have no choice. One more thing do all the EBAL schools play by the same rules or does “1″ have advantages the other 7 don’t have?
December 13th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
YoMama, It’s u that doesn’t know the rules. Oakland Schools have open enrollment.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Ebal5- Your comment was that Lad knows he can’t win with kids from Concord. I guess you are wrong. For the record, DLS petitioned to move to the WCAL after the 97 season. Guess who didn’t let them? Anyone…anyone? The North Coast Section and the CIF. They came up with the quasi independent BVAL solution and the rest is history.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
And how does DLS not respect the league? Explain that one? They play in it, yes not by choice but they play in it in all sports. So explain that comment.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
That solution also led to the creation of NCS 4A playoffs as well.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Since you brought it ut up Renegades, I’d like to see an actual roster breakdown for DLS players and the city where they live or where they recently moved from to attend DLS. I was on the chat when Ben posted that, but exactly what is “around the school” or “a good portion”. I know of several kids on the team this year are from the Tri Valley and as far south as Livermore. And they always seem to get a lot from the East County as well. I would think that the majority of DLS starters are from outside the Concord or Walnut Creek city limits. If Danville, San Ramon, Pittsburg, Antioch, Richmond, Martinez, Orinda & Moraga are considered around the school, then I’m sure there is a very good portion.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Maybe Ben can provide one since he has it all down.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
You private school haters need to jump off the hate train.
There are private schools EVERYWHERE……….
If it was only a private school thing there would be more than one DLS don’t you think.
Winning breeds winning and people want their kids to be on a winning team so you cannot blame DLS for having parents go to great lengths to get their kids there.
December 13th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
I’ll be honest that actually surprised me as well, but hey if it’s true…
December 13th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
also when people with kids buy homes what is one of the most important things for them Hmmmm lets see the schools.
I dont think I have ever heard a parent say I want my kids to go to bad a school with a losing team
December 13th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
you know I’m curious, why did Finnegan transfer to Monte Vista? I know in the end it didn’t really matter, but what was the cause? Was he commuting from Danville to the city to attend SHC before he went to MV?
December 13th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Could not agree more with all the arguments against DLS. This IS NOT ABOUT THEM RECRUITING. This is about them having an advantage–their players can come from ANYWHERE, not just from Concord area (unlike the rest of the EBAL teams).
This is also not about whether the “majority” of their team is from the “area” (whatever that means…) or whether BHS or whoever does what DLS does also. Does that make it right? NO!
This is also not about whether Cal won or lost. I am not even a fan of Cal! It is not fair and DLS does not contribute to the competitiveness of football. How fun is it to play if you know everytime you are going to be destroyed? How fun is it to win the NCS for the past 25+ years. Something is wrong here, and it needs to be addressed. It is not fair to the EBAL players or to the EBAL schools.
December 13th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Once again, this is not about there being more than one DLS. This is about DLS having an advantage. Whether or not you want to admit it, they have an advantage.
These fallacies are driving me crazy…
December 13th, 2010 at 9:40 pm
EBAL5,
Your statement of “Lad know’s he can’t win with the talent in Concord so he has to bring in skill players from outside the area” I don’t see Lad picking my kid up each morning at 6 am in the morning to take him to the DLS weight room or to get extra help from one of his teachers. Lad sure as hell does not pony up the 14K/year for my kid to go the school. You my friend are very misinformed and misguided by your jealousy. You talk about respect for the EBAL?? the hell that mean? those kids at DLS have a whole bunch of respect for great student athletes from other programs….class act kids like Mcgovern, Sullas the kid at Granada # 22, just to name a few…let’s not mention the fact that Lad frequently praises coaches like Sweeney saying that he is by far one of the best coaches in the Bay Area…you are so ill informed!
December 13th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
To the argument that public school has lost the teaching of God, it is for a reason. The US Constitution calls for the separation of Church and State, therefore it is illegal for the school to teach the theory of Christianity. I guess DLS forgot to teach that to you though. And personally I would rather attend a public school than have someone else’s views on life pushed on me everyday. I can promise you that you can find public students who are way better citizens than a majority of the DLS football players.
Next, the argument of players being recruited is moot. They do not recruit, the name recruits itself. One of my best friends, decided to attend DLS after middle school because he had a ‘better chance of being recruited there.’ So is it recruiting where the coach calls a player? No. But the fact that a Danville kid can not attend Cal High, but a Livermore kid can travel to Concord to play is idiotic.
But, I found it particularly interesting that the former mayor of San Ramon sent his son to DLS, and the DLS JV quarterback’s father was a board member for the San Ramon pop warner team, if I’ve been told correctly. But I’m sure these two sent them there for the Catholic values they teach.
December 13th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
S1lverngreen, how does your argument contribute to saying that DLS does not have an advantage, or that it is fair that they are in the league?
Do you no think that other parents from public schools do not put in as much effort as you do?
December 13th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
not think*
December 13th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
S1lverngreen, now I know you are talking blindly. DLS players have no respect for EBAL teams. Every team respects the 2 MV players, but Horn, from Granada? One of the dirtiest players around. And speaking of dirty, the Wynn suplex on the Cal High running back was disgusting. It was a dirty play by a dirty player. Along with Barton, who was flagged for punching another one of the Cal running backs in the first game, they are two of the dirtiest players in the league. Im happy the DLS safety was finally flagged for spearing, they have been doing that for years.
December 13th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Cal parents have much to be proud of. We understand by keeping our kids in the neighborhood public that they MAY be competing against a school with far greater boundaries- thus resources- than ours, especially if you moved into the Tri-Valley after 2007. Then again, that private only joined the EBAL in 2008. MOST of us were here MANY years before then. A post above mentioned parents want to belong to a winning sports tradition….shallow parents. Academics first, and that was our decision in 1996- when Cal football had no football tradition, but was putting 95% of it’s students into college. Now, 14 years later, both boys had the experience of an NCS final. Did we plan that buying our house? Did we farm our kid to the winningest football-baseball-choose your sport- high school? That’s the call of a parent, usually not a kid’s. We also know that our administration has only $7500 to work with per student compared to $14,000. Undercompensated coaches and fewer in number- but not less dedicated. Simply said, the Cal football team gave sparta a big time run for their money in ’08 and again four weeks ago. Great Job (Again) Grizzlies, as many dLS supporters have given them credit for. Any other four year span, two more EBAL pennants in the gym. Straight observation, IMO.
December 14th, 2010 at 1:30 am
#70 I would like you to provide a roster list list of the Danville or P-town residents that moved to those two cities after having their children. Most families moved to Danville or P-Town and between for the same reason that parents select to send their children to DLS. They bought their home in that corridor to feel safe and to what they perceived to be the best education for their child. As far as open boundries for Danville and P-town, Children get around certain sports to play for the cross town school if it suits them better. Two years ago girls soccer proved that at Foothill.
December 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I’m not sure what you are getting at BamBam. Take a look a the rosters of MV, or Foothill and I’m sure that a good portion of those students live almost etirely within the boundaries of the school.
I was responding directly to Renegades stating in post #60: “Ben Enos: Actually, we never did anything with it last year, but that DLS team was almost entirely from around the school and a good portion this year is as well. That’s a fact that goes unreported too often. Renaud and Wynn, arguably their two best players, are neighborhood kids.” “Care to respond?”
Just wondering what constitutes almost entirely and good portion.
December 14th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
How do you Cal fans feel about your promising frosh QB? Care to share with us where he lives?
Some of you public fans need to grow some sack- an example of the feminization of America. For some, they would rather cry, complain, and make excuses than beat the King of the Hill.
Thank God your coaches try to man up.
December 14th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
In case anyone was still keeping score: year 3 of the d. miller “EBAL/DLS Football theory” just ended with the same result. NCS Champs-no losses.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Anyone can win with Concord kids! just look at Concord High..LOL. I am just glad the EBAL is getting knocked down a few rungs. Now it is Danville starting in with recruiting, when DLS was in the BVAL it was Pitt nad Antioch crying foul.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Post #87, You point is well taken, DLS is all about winning no matter what the cost. What DLS doesn’t realize there is a cost “loss of and lack of respect”. As more members of the Bay Area are made aware of how and at what lengths DLS does to continue their streak “respect they once had is lost, respect they could have obtained is not achieved”. By the way has the NFL decided on what disipline “DLS star” and former Hercules resident while attending DLS (see post #55) will receive for having been arrested for his “2′nd DUI”. I doubt this behavior started after joining the Bronco’s, but hey he contributed to the streak. Like I said at the beginning of this post “Win at any Cost”.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Ebal getting knocked down because they are losing to DLS? Uhh, did you happen to see the quarterfinal bracket?
December 14th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
I made the comment that DLS does not respect “EBAL”. Some of you asked to explain further, See Blog 88, “your glad that “EBAL is getting knocked down”. DLS is a member of EBAL. Your want to see other teams in your own league get knocked down a few rungs, what so you can look better? What about all the DLS “BS” about team, commitment, accountability, etc… Your right “league” is not in there. DLS is all about DLS.
December 14th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Excellent point EBAL5
December 14th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Hey 79: You say, “The US Constitution calls for the separation of Church and State, therefore it is illegal for the school to teach the theory of Christianity”!? Sad. Get a clue. Somebody lost out in their education, all right – sorry to say, THIS is “someone else’s views on life pushed on me everyday”…. best example anyone could see.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
If Danville, Pittsburg, Antioch and just about every other city is crying foul don’t you think there must be a little truth in it? I mean either all of these people from all these other schools are lieing and/or stupid or it means that there must be some truth to it and DLS supporters just contiune to lie even though it is clear even to outsiders that DLS has an “advantage”
December 14th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
ManO’War, Get a clue? I’m sorry, but why do I need a clue? It is illegal to teach religion in a public school, correct? Therefore, public schools CAN NOT teach the values of “God” in school. How does this mean I lost my education, because I don’t believe in your God?
December 14th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Junior- Wow. First of all, your comment is wrong on so many levels. First of all, the “feminization” of America?? What is that supposed to mean?
Is it bad to “feminine”?
Oh and trust me, I’m sure every EBAL team would like to beat the “King of the Hill (with an unfair advantage).”
All of you DLS fans, how can you justify that your team can have players from anywhere play for them? If my kid wanted to play at say Cal since they made it to NCS Championships because as stated earlier “winning breeds winning,” or “winning recruits the players themselves” they could not play there. HOWEVER, if my kid wanted to play at DLS they could.
This is an advantage. Anyway you try to justify it, you can’t. An advantage is an advantage and DLS has an advantage.
It doesn’t matter if Cal lost or won, if BHS recruited before, if EBAL fans are crying, complaining, or whatever, it does not matter. DLS has advantages that other schools do not.
December 14th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
ManO’War- Also, I was confused on what you were trying to say? Not really sure how that is relevant the way I understand it….
December 14th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Footballfan,
I have never said that DLS does not have an advantage..They do have an advantage as they are not limited to geographical boundaries like the publics. That said, I want you to explain to me how SRV beat Mitty? (who can draw from anywhere in the Southbay) Encinal beat Marin Catholic, did those two privates not have the same advantage as DLS??? Look at programs like O’dow, St. Mary’s, Salesians to name a few, they too have an advantage…I will say that there at least two or three teams in the EBAL this year that could easily beat those 3 schools. My point is that just because the school may have a bigger pool students to draw from, it does not necessarily equate to a consistently winning program…Let’s not forget that about 500 kids test each year to get into DLS and only 250 of them get accepted…half of them most likely get denied because they do not meet the academic requirements…Your thoughts?
December 14th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Footballfan,
I also never said that other parents do not put forth an effort with the children’s education…I am the product of a public school and proud of it. If you look at my response on post 78, I was simply refuting the fact that one of the posters stated that Lad brings in talent from outside the area. I’ll say it again, parents and kids choose to attend DLS not Lad!
December 14th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
EBALFB101,
I think it’s chicken S**^& that you are calling these kids out by name as cheaters…grow up and stop being such a bad looser! It’s fine if you want to generalize the program, call DLS whatever you want, however, don’t call these kids out in a public forum. Most of the posters in this blog have the decency to either compliment or refrain from personally attacking student athletes you should do the same.
December 14th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
If your kid wants to play football at Cal HS- move into their district.
December 14th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
#96
I could be wrong but i am pretty sure mitty is close (geographicly) to all the other schools in the WCAL meaning that they are all drawing from the same pool of talent. Therefore it is dispersed over multiple teams. DLS is the only large private school in the area where the EBAL and BVAL kids come from. Therefore they can concentrate all of the talent at one school. As for Marin Catholic, I think it is apparent that Marin does not produce the quantity and quality of athletes that the EBAL and BVAL areas do.
December 14th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
A big part of DLS’s “advantage” is reflected by some of the posters on here. You are defeated before your team even steps on the field.
You will not see it until you believe it…..now wipe those tears away and get to work for the 2011 season because the Spartans start working out in January.
December 14th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Hey 93, if you believe what you said, “The US Constitution calls for the separation of Church and State, therefore it is illegal for the school to teach the theory of Christianity,” then you have swallowed the line of what someone else wants you to think, which is the very thing you accuse a “religious” school of.. Get the facts. Whoever’s God is irrelevant to the process of education. Accuse me, now? You assume too much, which is a condition of those who have accepted the prevailing conclusory baloney. Public school better? Yeah right – it’s you who saluted the line. Now you will come back and accuse me of saying a religious school is better, am I right?
December 14th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
DLS does indeed have a intimidation advantage, as any team who does not lose for ten years should have. This might be a part of the reason that they beat local teams but I don’t think that intimidation works on the defending Nevada state champions. Or on New Jersey state champs or on top teams from Flordia, Washington, and SOCAL. Yet they still seem to beat them. So I don’t think that intimidation is “A big part of the DLS advantage”
December 14th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Bigeasy,
I beg to differ with you; a good example is Paly (a very good academic public school) beat multiple WCAL teams this year and is now representing D1 Nor Cal in the SBG, they too are very limited in the area where they draw from..How do you explain that? a once a decade fluke? Encinal, a team that fielded 25 players this year beat Marin Catholic, the Jets have a very limited geographic area to draw from!
December 14th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
s1lverngreen,
Thank you for admitting that DLS does have an advantage. I am not saying that they recruit or don’t work as hard as other teams. I am sure the players work just as hard as other EBAL teams.
I am also not saying that DLS is unbeatable. They are definitely beatable, it is just a difficult thing to do. Lad has built a program there that is stronger than say Mitty or Marin Catholic. But that does not make it okay, or justify their advantage.
I know that kids have to test in to get into DLS or Carondelet. However, it seems to happen that the few kids who get in to DLS that do not have a great academic background are also great at playing football. I know this is not the case everywhere, and I am not generalizing, but this is something that happens. Please tell me that the admission officers ignore their football talents or abilities.
Bigeasy- I’m not sure if you are addressing me, but I am not saying that DLS has a “intimidation advantage.” I am saying that they have an advantage because they can pull kids from anywhere they want.
Junior- I’m sure everyone else starts in January too, and I’m not sure who you are addressing when you say “wipe your tears.” This is not something that is just going to go away. If DLS stays in EBAL, and continues to have an unfair advantage,parents and students will continue to address this issue.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Wow, this thread got out of hand. Mostly from “new” posters who think they have broken new ground with their posts. It is the same tired arguments that many have heard many times in the past……”they recruit, they have the best players, they play unfair.” Wah wah wah….Hardly original stuff.
I know for the Cal fan base this was a traumatic experience. You actually thought you had a chance to win. And you did, because you were the ones playing in the Coliseum against DLS, nobody else. What a great honor to be playing there against one of the top 5 teams in the United States. If you had a little angel dust sprinkled your way as Killer D suggested, lightning may have struck and you could have been the team to end the NorCal streak.
But it didn’t happen, so you work harder for next year. Good thing you have coaches like Billeci (former DLS), Kravitz, Sweeney and other coaches in the league that have the cajones to want to compete. They leave the whining to the mommies and daddies who “just want to make it fair for their kiddies.” This crying is really about the parents. The Cal players who worked their butts off this year are thinking about whatever miscues they may have committed in the Coliseum, not the goegraphical makeup of their opponent. Cal would have had to play a perfect game to win, it just didn’t happen.
One aspect of the discussion that seems very foreign to the more secular posters is that the Catholic education really is a big deal to most DLS families. The overwhelming vast majority of their students came from Catholic or Christian schools. I know this is hard for some of you to understand but those families identify more with their church than their city. When families move into really nice communities with really good public schools but still elect to pack the Catholic elementary schools in their town with kids, they are doing it for a reason. And many intend to keep going at the High School level. It just so happens that many of these Catholic schools also have very fine athletic feeder programs; CYO Basketball is very competitive all over the East Bay.
I think DLS should go independent in football only (there is no such complaining about DLS/Carondelet in other sports)so the locals can win their league title and feel good. But EBAL schools will still have to face reality come North Coast Section time.
Good luck to the Spartans this week, win another State Championship representing the East Bay Athletic League, the best league in Northern California.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Ebal Fan #2- Nobody has said anything about recruiting. So I don’t know where you are pulling that argument from.
Why is it so wrong to make it fair? I really don’t understand this. I would hope that DLS would want to compete with teams that have the same regulations that they do.
I do agree with you though that DLS needs to join another league.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
Or go independent*
December 14th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
My argument about the WCAL was that all the WCAL teams down there draw from the same players. So hypothetically lets say that there are 100 good players in a class. 45 will go to there assigned public school. 10 will go to Bellermine. 12 will go to VC. 18 will got to Mitty. 5 will go to ST Francis. and 10 will go to Serra. (these numbers are completly made up and I was just using it to show the dispersion of talent) In the east bay there is only one option for a large private school. As for Marin Catholic like I said above they are not in an area where a high volume of top notch athletes are produced consitently the Encinal team they played was very talented
December 14th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
I’ve read every post and of course respect the thoughts as well as the scribe.
1. Some parents have ruined amateur athletics by their backstabbing, circumvention of the coaches, badmouthing the coaches to their kids at the dinner table, and losing focus on what is important and that football is for the KIDS
2. Private education is great and so are many Public schools.
3. DLS DOES have some options that they have turned into their advantage and I applaud their amazing results. Do I want DLS to get beat by an NCS team? Yes, but only because I believe it good for the kids and section.
4. Am I envious of DLS or wish them ill, NEVER and every time they win, I applaud them again.
5. Separation of Church and State? In our Constitution our Founding Fathers all believed we were endowed by our CREATOR and the foundation of this country is solidly built upon Christian principles.
6. Freedom OF Religion…not From Religion, we are NOT a secular country
7. The State Bowl Title games hold No interest for me but I am rooting for all of the NorCal teams.
8. When High school football teams are playing more games than collegiate teams, it should cause all of us reason for concern
Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all, and I have REALLY enjoyed reading Your Guys’ posts this season.
GOD Bless you all…
December 14th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
No football fan that was for 101
December 14th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
As someone who merely lurks on these forums, I’ve been tempted to post. My question is that after the statement above about parents sending their children to DLS. A vast majority attend the school for the obvious reasons, the academics, and the religious beliefs. I’m sure there are plenty of football players who were sent to the school based on this. However, my question is to the parents of the players who do not represent those two ideas. Why pay 14k a year to send your child to a High School for football? Obviously they could attend a public school in the area with academic standards just as high as DLS’s, or another Catholic school possibly closer to them. Yet you pay this amount…..for football? If your kid is good enough, they will be recruited no matter what school they attend. And if you say it is for the life lessons and brotherhood of the team, that line has been overused. I attended a public school 25 years ago, and I can assure you I formed a brotherhood with my teammates. My best man, and two grooms men were players I had never met before football. So again, you send them to the school for football only, which in all honesty appears fairly selfish of the parent. Once more, why send them there?
And to EBALFB and Manowar, please grow up and leave the religion argument alone. This is a sports blog, not a religious blog. Both of you are losing respect for your posts, not gaining anything.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
what unfairness is there on the field? does DLS use a different ball? do they get to play with 12 per side? do only DLS football players get to lift weights?
DLS tried to give Cal a head start Sat night with 3 TO’s, but the Grizz’s did not capitalize. they had a little of that “deer in the headlights” look on their faces….probably from listening to their parents whine that DLS has too many advantages.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Junior- I never said anything about unfairness on the field. I said that they have an advantage because players can come from anywhere to play for them. Other DLS fans have admitted this, and I give them respect for that.
Oh boy…I could go on and on, but I really do not feel like I would get anywhere with you. I’d rather focus my efforts elsewhere, where what I say and do will actually make a difference. You can let yourself believe whatever you’d like, as can I.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Alright BigE, I see you your point…I do not agree with you, but, we can agree to disagree.
Footballfan,
Regarding your statement of “it seems to happen that the few kids who get in to DLS that do not have a great academic background are also great at playing football.” How do you know this? Do you have access to transcripts, test scores? I doubt it..It’s too bad you believe that. I can give you 14 thousand reasons as to why the administration would never dilute their entry standards in order to field a successful sports program. You can ask the 250 that were denied entry, I am sure some of these kids would have been great DLS athletes..
December 14th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
The unfairness lies in the idea of players from anywhere in the state can attend the school. Give me the East Bay All Star Team players when they were sophmores, the Cal High coaching staff, two years to prepare them, and then let them play an EBAL schedule. As juniors, they play for an NCS title, as Seniors, they’d win state. How fair of a team is that? Not at all, but the fact is, with the way dLS admits kids, they could potentially do just that.
December 14th, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Junior you have gotten to the point where you are attacking Cal parents and no longer trying to defend DLS. You no longer try to disprove the fact there are advantages. Once you start making a personal attack it is clear you have lost the point actually being argued
Proudparent DLS has finacial aid. The parents send them there so that the kids as well as the parents can be apart of a winning program and border line scholarship kids are more likely to get D1 looks at DLS
December 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
s1lverngreen,
You can believe whatever you would like. I asked, tell me that DLS admission officers completely ignore the talents or potential that an incoming freshman would have. I don’t think that you or anyone else can say that. Obviously, I do not have access to the admission transcripts or test scores, but I have a good hunch that you don’t either.
Once again, I don’t feel like I am getting anywhere. You will believe what you believe, and that is fine. I have my own beliefs, and I will continue to follow through with what I believe.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
public school kids can go to any school they want…move into the district and you can play for your favorite team (at no charge to boot).
December 14th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
post 118- the admission application is blind– NO NAME APPEARS ON THE APP-
December 14th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Footballfan,
Fair enough, let’s move on, we can disagree. Good luck to you and happy holidays!
S1lver
December 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Bigeasy, thank you for the response. My question is though, why be that shallow as a parent, and just jump on the bandwagon. I know I only have one opinion, but I’d much rather represent the city I grew up in, and lead the building of a program and earn the respect of other teams. This is as opposed to riding the coattails of former great teams as Maurice Jones-Drew would say. Cal Hi earned more respect this year from me, than DLS did, even though DLS won the title. They did nothing new, these kids won, yes, but how much more special is the 19th championship than the 18th?
December 14th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Junior, are you sure it is blind? Do you personally read the applications of each individual? Or is that just an assumption. And move into the district they want? Sure, but only if you’d like to lend me the money so I could afford to move. I bought a house in the district I’m in, because I can afford it. My children will attend this school when they are old enough. Not all of us are blessed with the wealth to move freely between houses in the bay area, and in this economy.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Ok Junior,
I just went on to DLS’ website and the first thing I see for admissions is: # Complete online application along with a photocopy of applicant’s birth certificate by Friday, December 3, 2010.
Anyways, maybe you are right. I just find that extremely hard to believe.
And it is not easy to just up and move. Housing prices are ridiculous especially in the East Bay, and to be honest I think that there are many more important things in life than football.
Ok I am officially done lol…
December 14th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Good night Mom
December 14th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Ebal Fan, I am trying to make peace here man! LOL
December 14th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Proudparent
To be honest I don’t know why some people are so shallow and I don’t think either of us will ever know. Secondly I don’t think that 14 and 15 year olds are fully mature when they make the choice to stay home and go public or attend a private. This makes discovering their motive even harder. I went to my home high school to represent my home town so I can see where you are coming from. It becomes a very sticky situation when we try and discover why?
December 14th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
well Proudparent congrats!- reread your post and you will understand the “DLS ADVANTAGE” is bogus. $$$ is a DISADVANTAGE to DLS- parents must PAY for their childs education- BIG disadvantage- just like having to move is.
footballfan- the admission team gets the applications in a blind format- each applicant is assigned a # so the committee does not see names.
December 14th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Silverngreen- LOL, good night!
December 14th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Junior, Bigeasy already showed why the fee is not as big of a deal as moving. A 14k academic aid loan, or most likely, a half loan, of 7k a year, is much easier to pay than monthly house payments. Its easier to go to DLS than to move, that is not even a comparable argument. And again, how do you know the application is blind?
And I agree Bigeasy, the why question is never easy to answer. I was just hoping I could get a real response from someone who experienced this at DLS or school, like you and I have.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:44 am
After reading all the posts in this forum, I must say I don’t understand the anger/resentment/griping thrown De La Salle’s way. Do private schools have an open enrollment advantage? yes. Does that guarantee them a winning program? absolutely not. Is DLS breaking some NCS or CIF rule? not that I’ve ever heard from a reputable source or seen proven.
Therefore, don’t be mad at them or cry about how unfair things are. If you have a beef, bring it up with the CIF or the NCS, they are the ones making the rules. Whining about a team that plays by the rules, even if you don’t agree with those rules, makes you seem petty and jealous.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:45 am
Wow, honestly this all started because of some posters who every time DLS wins have to come on and start up about advantages. We all know they have a no boundary advantage. Why the hell does it keep getting brought up? You have a problem with it take it to the section office. The BVAL AD’s had an issue with it in 97 and threatened to boycott playing DLS, saying they would rather just forfeit. That’s what led to them going semi independent. Lost on many people is that these are 16-18 year old kids, just like the ones in the public schools. They can’t be flying all over the country. This is not college football.
And really, you want to call kids out by name for being dirty? Really mature. The kids play hard. And Barton did not punch anybody, what the hell are you talking about? What does DJ’s 2nd DUI have to do with DLS? You get kicked off the team for less than that. There is a player not on the team this year for less than that. In regards to Houston, his grandfather coached Lad at SRV. Lad credits most of what he knows to him. There is a very strong bond between those families.
DLS does respect the EBAL, they don’t like seeing the other teams knocked down a few rungs. Where the hell do you get that idea from? Do you know how many times DLS fans have to defend the teams in the EBAL against the fans outside of the section who claim that because DLS beats the teams here all the time the league must be weak? You guys are so full of crap it’s unbelievable. None of you who are bashing the school went there or have sent your kids there. You don’t have a damn clue about the school at all. You sit there and judge based on what you want to see. The fact that someone would even say that at DLS it’s about winning at all costs speaks to your ignorance. Do you even know what the football team ends up learning, because it’s not a big playbook you can be sure of that. They learn how to work hard, be accountable, and learn to respect and love other people. That’s the message of the entire damn school.
It’s funny that at the end of every year some people show up on this blog for a week complaining about this and that, and trying to bash DLS. And they never come back. Whether you like it or not, DLS is not going anywhere. If you want to complain go do it to Gil Lemmon at the section office. I’m sure he would love to hear about it. But too many of you are speaking about things which you don’t know or understand.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:46 am
ha, ha Renegades. Looks like we had the same thoughts early this morning!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Lets just face the facts. When you are on the top,You are hated. It’s just that simple. De La Salle has been ruling for how now and just people i guess are tired of it. All I can say is, If you want to beat them, Be in the weight room and on the track and field right after Christmas Break and you ‘might’ have a fair chance. Jet Pride!
December 15th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Oh and by the way.. Happy Holiday Sports Fans! And as always.. Jet Pride!
December 15th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Honestly Renegades, DLS wins every year. This is 19 straight. Obviously the open enrollment helps as DLS’s prestige allows it to attract superior athletes. But again, this is your 19th straight! You are not going to get hugs and kisses from the blog here. Everyone respects DLS and their streak was probably the most impressive thing I have ever seen, fact remains that they are playing with an advantage the publics don’t have and as long as they are playing against publics, this argument will continue to occur. I’d think that as a long time DLS fan you would have a little thicker skin in regards to the whole recruitment thing.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:22 am
DLS baseball team came in last place this year. Same “advantages” as football team. Superior youth baseball programs in Danville, Pleasanton and Livermore. Superior feeder program to local EBAL teams. These things just don’t happen, a real long term program makes the differences. Otherwise Moreau would be a power as well just like DLS in football.
December 15th, 2010 at 10:09 am
You won’t get it or understand it if you are not part of the DLS family. It’s not just a football school. Look at all of their sports there and yes football dominates the most and has created most of this we want them out thread. Lad and the program that he has developed accounts for some of this domination. No boundaries has also helped as some students go to DLS to win and be coached by the best.
Yes, DLS has a higher percentage of students going on to college then public schools or at least then the other EBAL schools.
Yes, MV or SRV would win EBAL if DLS leaves the league but will that make those schools better? Cal hired good coaches and brought in a program I would bet is similar to the DLS program. It didn’t happen over night at Cal but I’ll bet that they will get closer as long as they stick to the program that the ex DLS alum is teaching there.
Keep in mind between all of the athletic teams at DLS only 23 kids were recruited for athletic scholarships last year. I’m guessing but I’ll bet that at least 2 EBAL teams or more had a higher rate of athletic scholarships offered. Far more scholarships were offered for classroom accomplishments than sports.
The solution is try to beat them or at least play like them and move on to college where it really matters. Because what DLS is teaching them my friends is a lot more than just winning on the field but rather how to prepare for their next step in life. It doesn’t guarantee a succesful life but it’s the proper foundation.
The public schools have good young adults that graduate and are equally as prepared for life but for my wife and I we liked the percentages better in the private schools. Oh, My son didn’t play football at DLS.
I lived the public school way and private school way.
I seen the difference, have you? (brotherhood is the main difference and I don’t just mean the football team but rather the whole student body)
December 15th, 2010 at 11:15 am
When will the haters unleash their venom on Miramonte Water Polo????? They have dominated that sport. They MUST have advantages no? How else can you explain all that success?
December 15th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Bambam, very well said. Even with an open enrollment advantage, you still need to coach the kids up once they get there. And nobody can convince me that any other coaching staff would have had the same success with the same players that DLS has had over the past 30 years.
The Cal staff is doing it the right way, they aren’t complaining, they’re just working hard trying to beat DLS and the other EBAL teams.
Is the situation completely fair and equal? Maybe not, but that’s life folks. Just like when someone else gets promoted at work for a job that you wanted, you can either gripe about how unfair it is, or get your ass working hard to make sure they know you’re qualified for the next promotion.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I like the fact that DLS came to the EBAL it gives the teams in this league a goal to reach which in turn makes these players work harder and gives them the opportunity to grow into better players overall with the chance of getting recruited to the next level. Look at what has been said, Cal working harder, coaches and trainers who use to work or played at DLS bringing their knowledge and work effort to these schools that is why the EBAL is one of the top leagues in the area. Do they have an advantage maybe but let’s face it they have been doing it a certain way for a LONG time and it works kudos to them and to the positive effect it has had on teams in the league trying to grow.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
De La ?? I don’t get this so help me out. Why would you want to stay in the EBAL the way that it is? You are playing Servite on Saturday their SOS is 34 (They play 5 in league 5 open) De La’s SOS at 20. I just don’t get why you would want to knock around Foothill, Amador, Monte Vista, Granada, Livermore, and now Castro Valley?? Really?? Other than Gorman who did you really play this year?? And no Serra San Mateo does not count. Cal, SRV, St Marys?? I just don’t get it… Why don’t you play better teams?? Totally dominate and ssshhhh the haters? Just asking so… don’t get chirpy
December 15th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
@DVAL, so DLS plays the state champion of Nevada, a SJS section power, a good team from the CCS, as well as 7 games against teams in the strongest league in NorCal (sorry WCAL), beats 3 teams handily in the 2nd biggest section in the state and that’s not good enough for you? What do you want, for them to go back to the BVAL? Or perhaps an entire schedule against out of state powerhouses would make more sense. Like it or not, the EBAL is the best league for them geographically and competitively.
December 15th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
DVAL – If North Coast allows it, DLS would jump at chance to go back to 5 games EBAL/5 games non-league status. When DLS first came to EBAL they wanted it that way but were told no, you have to play all of us. A couple of years down the road and the tide seems to be turning towards this system again. With Castro Valley coming to league, a 9 team league is too many; DLS will play top 5 from previous year and then 5 non-league.
December 15th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
iker- usually I don’t get pissed about something like this. I tend to be pretty calm about it. But this time, some of the posters here went too far. Tell me how you would react if posters started calling the kids on your team out by name and saying they are dirty, accusing them of punching people and always spearing people. Or if a former player got a DUI and someone starts saying that behavior must have been going on while they were playing on the team? Or that they don’t respect anybody or anything. We all get it, that DLS has an advantage of open enrollment. But that’s not changing. The best part now is that there is a former Spartan in the EBAL coaching ranks. Why don’t some of you email him or go talk to him? If you don’t believe the DLS supporters on this board, maybe you will listen to him. His assistant Sansoe was a Spartan as well. See what they have to say. I know he added some of his own twists to it, but what model do you think Bellici was following? He took a bunch of kids who aren’t being highly recruited by D1 schools, and they tore up everybody else in the league. He got them to work harder and it showed.
December 15th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Wow, you guys are getting pretty worked up on here. The DLS supporters need to get some thicker skin, as they seem to roll out the same arguments every year when the inevitable comments come in about DLS’s winning tradition. It might help if more people admit that open enrollment is a distinct advantage, that goes along will with their being the largest private school in NCS.
There will always be the yahoos that come on here and say DLS recruits. I really doubt that they actively recruit, but it would not surprise me if there are ocassions where a great athlete is encouraged to apply to DLS. The DLS supporers have heard this a thousand times, and they always come back with extremely defensive attitudes. It should not be a big deal to just admit that your school has certain advantages, without always coming back that your kids work harder than everyone else and have better coaching.
Clearly, whatever DLS is doing is working and they should continue to do the same things as long as they are successful. But, things are working at a school like Cal as well. There is nothing wrong with kids playing for their local school and with the kids they played years of youth football with, even if they do not earn a league, section or state title. If their parents were really that concerned about winning every game, they probably would have gone through the blind draw enrollment process at DLS. Maybe some did and didn’t get in?
The bottom line is that DLS has a great tradition of football over the last 30 years, and they look like they’ll continue to be successful. Their being put in the EBAL has upped the antie for all EBAL schools and I think they are all better prepared teams because of it. Not everyone hates DLS just because they are acknowledging they have certain advantages. But when DLS supporters get on here and say public school people need to “grow some sack” or that DLS “could field girls and still beat you”, it just looks bad. R10 is a level headed DLS fan and does not resort to such antics, but for many it seems like they just look forward to these annual diatribes like they are going to be able to change people’s perceptions.
December 15th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Prep Fan- at least for me personally it’s not the advantages argument even though it is getting really boring since we all know that it is an advantage, it was some of the other stuff they came up that i referenced in my post to Iker. The convo went way beyond just talking about DLS’ advantage of no boundaries.
December 15th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Also, to KillerD in response to #111
No ones is trying to start a theological debate in here, but your statement is ignorant. Sure separation of church and state isn’t in the constitution. It’s a good thing though that it is in the bill of rights and is part of the 1st amendment.
Freedom of religion is synonymous with freedom from religion in a classroom setting. No kids at a public school should have one religion forced upon them. The only way this can be accomplished is through ignoring religion altogether.
December 15th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I understand renegades. You are one of the more level headed posters here which is why I was surprised at your post. I had skimmed over the earlier posts and I can see why you would have taken offense to the accusations against certain players.
December 15th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Iker, pretending like religion doesn’t exist, so it should be ignored in school is as ignorant as you’re claiming KillerD’s statements are. Just because you don’t want to have your kids learn about religion in school doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same way. Maybe some of us want our kids to learn about religion in school and don’t want to have to pay extra to private schools to get that. I’ve never seen any particular religion “forced upon” kids. If anything, schools go overboard to teach about all forms of religion. Wise up dude, most of the world is religious and taking it out of schools for the small minority makes no sense.
December 15th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Most of the world is religious and for that exact reason Christianity should not be taught to kids as a religion. Of course kids should learn about religion, it’s a part of the present world and history. That doesn’t mean that everything should be taught with a religious slant. Call me an idealist, but I think that a government funded public school should be free of religious bias. Schools shouldn’t teach that marriage is only between a man and a woman because the bible says so.
If you want your kids to learn about religion, it’s really not hard. There are churchs and synagogues and mosques everywhere where your kids can learn about their faith in depth. A school is not the place to do that.
December 15th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
The reason people hate DLS is because of parents like Renegades. Hides behind the clear knowledge they recruit, they solicit cash differently, they are sponsored by Nike, they have their own radio station, they get “supplements”. When was the last time Castro Valley had that?
December 15th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
DLS is the only school that EVERY school in the EBAL cheers against. Even when it represents at the championship game.
My favorite team this week, anyone playing DLS.
December 15th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Renegades 10
YOU SUCK
December 15th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Real mature big papa… sounds like you have some anger issues. Next!
December 15th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Big Pappa, first off I’m not a DLS parent, I’m a DLS alum. I have a much better understanding of what goes on there than you do. If it was clear knowledge they did it, where is the proof? They do get clothes from Nike, I see a lot of other teams do as well. They don’t have their own radio station, they do get their games broadcast of KFRC 1550 AM. DLS doesn’t own that station. Personally, I don’t care what you think of me because you sound like a sorry person who’s whole life is devoted to rooting against one team of 16-18 year old kids. I understand that the public schools are struggling right now. But hey DLS parents, and even myself now do their part and pay the taxes that help to support the public schools.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Renegades, regarding post 147. I know, but I didn’t even want to go there. Personal attacks should be off limits, whether it be about a former DLS player or the current Cal frosh QB.
I tried to watch my wording about all league selections because when you are talking up one player, you are necessarily saying he is better than the other guy, whch can sometimes sound harsh. But there are humane ways to go about such topics. Some people just feel the need to spew venom. I’m not sure what you did to upset Big Pappa as you are about the most raasonable (as well as knowlegeable) DLS fan on here, but hopefully the board can calm down a little bit. Good luck to the Spartans at state.
December 15th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Ren 10, not alot of D1′s but there are plenty of boys who will play at the next level from Cal and yes we all root against DLS ( and St. Is – ha!)and it won’t stop because it’s fun!
December 15th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Here’s the real issue- Public ebal and other haters-
1. your kids can’t go there. Not smart enough, not Catholic, not willing to adjust, you can’t afford it, they want to go to school with their grammar school classmates, you like your school system, you don’t want your kids to commute or yourself, etc. etc. etc.
Since you have no kids at DLS and Carondelet, you’ll never understand, and Silvergreen, Renagaes, Bam Bam, Big Joe and more will never be able to explain it to you. You know what, you OWE us! We pay public school taxes for your kids to go to their school, we get no tax vouchers like other states, our kids don’t beneifit from the State or Federal government on any kind of aid, programs, etc.
We owe you no explanition or justification on anything. Our kids win out of sheer determination to show you up- see we have a little grudge on our shoulders to prove you and allegations wrong. I say the debate is finished, let’s watch 2 REAL teams , De La Salle go at it for the State championship and for the rest of the EBAL haters and Cal parents who are complaining, play football on Madden video. Next year DeLa Salle with Houston back is going to ravage the EBAL, especially Cal, no QB back.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Amen to that- Yo Mama. I knew you would have the last word. If the EBAL don’t want us, piss on them. We beat up all their star players, put an all-star team together from the league, and De La whips them too!
Let’s see, McGovern, the Aticksons, the Cal QB(forgot his name already), the MV QB and rest. I have personally bear witness to DIRTY play from many of these teams against De La because of the pounding and hitting that they have received. We are going into Encinal’s neighboorHood in case Enincal closes to get their players and are activitly seeking out Grant players, we have grants for them. If we need to join up with Mack and establish a West Oakland campus near the Diocese, we’ll do that to. Those kids would love to play for us. We will take their coaches too, because they would makew great assts. at De La. We got about 1/2 dozen assts. now who could coach any program in the bay to victory( that’s the real meal truth Brother, like the Hulkster says. Mike Tyson said he was going to eat your children, don’t make us do that. We have feeling too!
December 15th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Just out of the North Bay. Jesus said, render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and render to God what is God’s. De La doing just that.
Render to the EBAL what is their’s(Nada) and render to De La everything else.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
ProudParent and Footballfan should be proud of their kids. It should end there. Stay out of the De La issue- you have no clue- be careful what you wish for- De La is looming next year- don’t fuel their fire- 300 Spartans weren’t wrong. Now go back to your PTA meeting.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Big Dog out of the North Bay told me tonite,
Jesus said, render to caesar what is caesar’s and render to God what is God’s. DeLa is praticing this.
Render to the EBAL what is their’s(Nada) and render to De La Salle everthing else.
December 15th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
To add more fuel to the fire LOL- You mean the Cal parents don’t recognize what a good sportsman Coach Lad is; if Lad kept his starters in the whole game the Spartans would have beaten Amador 100-0, MV maybe 80-7, and yes, even in the Coliseum 63-14 you Grizzled Grizzlies.
If you root against us even when we are representing your league in a State Bowl game then maybe DLS doesn’t have to restrain itself anymore.
If you didn’t like the results this year, your really going to hate next year. DLS is loaded again. If you want to get this thread back to a civil tone, I’m all for it. Otherwise, we can keep this up for a long time. This is kind of fun (it always is for the winners).
December 15th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
Sorry Renegades. It is posts like these last 5 that give DLS and their fans a bad name and get people hating them. It is not just the victories, but not winning with grace and dignity. I hope you don’t know these people, but you are unfortunately associated with them. These type of posts go directly against what DLS and San Ramon resident Coach Lad preach, but are the kinds of comments from people who go to DLS for all the wrong reasons. To win, so they can brag about it. Wow.
December 15th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
Haha I’m sorry, but reading these posts I can’t help but laugh. You entitled, cocky DLS supporters absolutely embody everything anyone dislikes about DLS.
You all call everyone else out for attacking kids and then you say things like “the Cal QB(forgot his name already)”
Also, you guys just don’t get it. You think everyone wants to be apart of your “brotherhood” when the truth is, no one really cares. Honestly. Just stop, please. You guys are just perpetuating the stereotype of arrogant DLS fans…
December 15th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
This is going to be my final word on this subject because I think it has reached an endpoint. No question DLS had their fair share of great athletes come through the school. And it is something that the public schools don’t have with the open boundaries. Would Lad have run up the type of streak they did at a public school? Probably not. Would he still turn out very good teams year in and year out, yes. Maybe not 19 titles in a row and 26 overall, but keep in mind he was winning NCS titles before DLS was well DLS. I also believe there are some schools in the bay where with the athletic talent they have he could dominate this area still. But one thing to keep in mind is that many of these great athletes may have showed up at DLS with talent, but they were honed at DLS under the tutelage of Lad and Co. Call it arrogance if you want, but I don’t think DJ Williams becomes the great player he is at the local public school. A good player yes, but a great player I don’t think so.
All these players get challenged to push themselves beyond what they think is possible. They train incredibly hard year round, more than I think a lot of people even realize, even the ones on this board who have been watching football and DLS dominance longer than I have. I’ve been in there when these guys are lifting and I’ve been out on the field when they are getting run into the ground. It is no nonsense from anybody, these guys all train with one purpose and that’s to be the most physical SOB’s on the field. There is no slacking or one of the players will let you hear about it. They don’t need constant supervision to stay on task. That’s pretty impressive for a group of teenagers.
And think about a young kid who loves to play football watching a DLS game and seeing Amani Toomer, the Callen and Geldermann bros, MJD, Kevin Simon, or DJ Williams and saying I want to come here and be just like them. Winning will attract players, people may call it shallow, but it is basic human nature to want to be successful at what you do. And then think about the parents who see a majority of DLS students and grads become good young men, who care more about more than just the world around them. They see the students doing service projects off campus as well as on campus. Does that mean all DLS students and grads turn out to be highly motivated, well mannered, and caring people? No. But a very large quantity do. So for a parent they see it as an opportunity to help their kid get much more than just an education. Does that mean DLS is the only place for a student to do those things and get that kind of education? No. There are a lot of great people and good friends of mine who came through the public school system who are just as if not more aware of the world outside of their own lives and people that are just as bright if not brighter than the kids I went to school with.
But one advantage about DLS that doesn’t get mentioned (because this is a sports blog) is that the amount of attention students at the school receive is beyond anything that many of the public schools can offer. From teachers on down to counselors, you are known throughout your four years whether you are the star athlete or just a regular student. Besides the four counselors each student has for academic checkins, there are also two college and career counselors who are solely devoted to helping get kids into a college that suits them as well as helping them to get all the information and application stuff together. They meet with you almost once a month to check in on the process. I was getting recruited and still had to meet with them regularly to go over what I was doing. I can’t speak for the MV’s, SRV’s, and Cal’s of the world, but from the two local high schools where I grew up, the counselors hardly knew their students and almost had no time to see them except once a semester. They had so many students it was just too hard and setting up an appointment was even more difficult. With only 1,000 students that is an advantage of DLS that people forget about, and an aspect that is very appealing to students and parents alike.
Bottom line, yes there is an advantage DLS has when it comes to being able to have kids from all over play for them. But at times, people forget or don’t realize that there is more to the school than just being great at sports. And those extra things will attract students and parents alike.
December 16th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Hey 113, correct, this is not a “religious” blog any more than a finances one -despite your posts of 123 and 130- don’t misconstrue, you missed the point: Some people will choose DLS precisely because they want that type of education; and it is not “somebody else’s views on life pushed on me everyday” any more than what you get at a public school.
As for 148, a statement cannot be ignorant (but people can be). Fallacy: “No kids at a public school should have one religion forced upon them. The only way this can be accomplished is through ignoring religion altogether”: if you ignore topics -of any kind-in any school you will be devoid of any information about them and that’s not exactly “education.”
YoMama – pretty funny, but… please stick to Servite religion and finance issues….
December 16th, 2010 at 12:20 am
Renegades…..understand your post but not sure it’s worth the effort on this particular thread. As it has been said beforeon this thread, every year at this time there is the same discussion, debate, dialogue or whatever that slides out of the gutter and into the sewer.
Most of the regulars, the true fans of prep sports in general and prep football in particular that we see throughout the year have already left this discussion board knowing that the annual, excrement fest is about to take place.
My complaints about this forum when compared to other prep sports forums is:
1) it does not list the number of previous posts by a poster which would show that some of the posters at this moment are like farts in the wind…..here to cause a little discomfort than gone forever.
2) It does not allow you to click on the poster’s name to read previous posts, bio’s,hometowns (fact or fiction) which usually tell you more about the poster than any one particular post.
December 16th, 2010 at 12:51 am
concrete- agreed but felt that I just wanted to put that out there. There was even somebody who used my username during one of the live score update boards. It was funny because the moderator had made me one of the automatic updaters where I my comments just went straight up. as you know it looks different than the comments that have to be allowed thru. so halfway through someone posts up a DLS score (it was wrong too and had the feeling they were trying to make me look like a cocky sob with the score they posted) under my name and it was allowed through so it showed up in the blue text rather than the black text when my posts went up.
December 16th, 2010 at 6:23 am
How does everybody see the Open game going? Servite looks pretty impressive. Physical. Definitely played against a higher level if competition recently. Been a long time since DLS played Mision Veijo, Servite caliber team taking nothing from Cal High I just think that Pac-5 play-offs was loaded. The schemes are both good very similar on D. Offensively Servite running the Pistol as its Base is built to run but is still spread out. I think scheme wise Servite’s might be a little more dangerous cuz its spread out & always 4 wide.
December 16th, 2010 at 8:13 am
so, lets summarize:
when DLS FOOTBALL wins often= the spartans have “advantages”
when any other school or spartan team wins often (just as long as they dont win too much)= no comment
I hear ya….
December 16th, 2010 at 8:23 am
Big Joe,
Lol. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Encinal is down with De La. Be cool. We are rooting for the entire North Coast and Sac Sections. Especially De La Salle. Take it easy.
December 16th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Prep Fan – and you are unfortunately associated with all the offensive bloggers on the other side. Some pretty offensive stuff not really associated with football. Tough to assume the moral high ground with such venom on both sides.
December 16th, 2010 at 9:26 am
All the top programs get the haters. De La, Encinal, St. Pat’s, Pittsburg, etc.etc.etc.
When your on top everyone else doesn’t like it.
December 16th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Going down to Carson this weekend with my De La bling. Might find some recruits to bring back. Long Beach Poly told me they would loan us a couple of guys next year so they can help with the EBAL.
December 16th, 2010 at 10:48 am
Rumor around fremont football league is that mackey mcdaniels is the next head football coach at kennedy, he is said to be given a teaching position too. Heard the rumor back in october but heard it was finalized this week. Anyone heard anything?
December 16th, 2010 at 11:51 am
YoMama, you sure know how to push the right buttons to get some people on this board going! Unfortunately, they’ll just never get it.
December 16th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Perkin,
Everything I’ve heard, leads me to believe that the Spartans will most likely face their toughest challenge this year. I’ve heard that the Friars are well conditioned, disciplined and solid on both sides of the ball. I will watch the Servite/MV game tonight and probably get a better sense. Tell you what, I do not expect this to be an easy game for either team. Mistakes could cost the Spartans/Friars the win. Being a Sparta homer and all, I like our chances to win by a TD. No way Spartan fans are underestimating this team…side note for gades10, I flew on an airplane with the Vandals livery the other day!
December 16th, 2010 at 11:58 am
This guy Troy Thoms is good. Is this the new replacing the old? In his 6th season he seems to be hitting his stride. Can’t wait for the game.
December 16th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Sounds like it. Based on some of the write ups that I’ve seen he seems to run a somewhat similar program as the Spartans…I heard a monsoon is on the forecast for this weekend..a wet pitch will certainly have an impact on the game…not looking forward to getting drenched this weekend I must admit…oh well, football weather I guess.
December 16th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Have been to the Home Depot Center before. Like the Oakland Coliseum there is an overhang that keeps you out of the rain while not keeping you too far away from the field. If you’re really determined to get down close to the field the HD Center is waiving the ‘No Umbrella” rule for the CIF Bowl games.
December 16th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Concrete17, Berkeley Ready Mix here we come! Driving down to Carson with anti EBAL parents in my trunk- stacked up like cordwood deep in the Bayou!
I remember when De La fought off those Louissana Evangel Christian Hicks several years back- that was a game! Final 27-10 I believe- Anthony G. QB was a hero.
Anyway if I can’t get work for them at the Home Depot Center, might want to drive straight thru to Tijuana and drop them off.
December 16th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
The parent should to drop by the NCS office and complain about the recruiting advanatge. You push the buzzer to gain entrance and proceed to the De La Salle Hall, register your complaint, take a ticket, move to the waiting area. Appx. wait time, 19 years. There’s a cry-baby section to check your kids in and change diapers.
December 16th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
We are now controlling this blog. Turn your TV station to channel 41 and the outer limits.
De La Salle programing will resume after the break.
December 16th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Hey Concrete,
You sure bout that umbrella thing? Last year, the folks at HD were pretty strict on not allowing anything in the stadium…
December 16th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
S1lver- haha that’s too funny. There is the quite the story behind how that came about too. Our AD, Rob Spear, was flying from Moscow to Boise and when he saw that he would have to get on a Horizon Airlines plane painted for Boise St. he refused and said it was insulting that the University of Idaho didn’t have a plane painted in their colors. To protest, rather than get on the plane in Moscow, he made one and a half hour drive to Spokane airport to fly from there. It actually made national news and Horizon decided to repaint one of their planes, which is the one you were on, in the colors of the Vandals.
December 16th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
S1lverngreen……Here’s the link to the LA Times blog regarding special dispensation by the powers at Home Depot Center to the CIF for the use of umbrellas:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/varsitytimesinsider/2010/12/football-umbrellas-are-ok-for-cif-bowl-games.html
Special thanks to Norco’s BnP who originally posted the link.
December 16th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
YoMama,,,,check this out. I am at this moment sitting in my truck, in Berkeley waiting for a concrete slab we poured late this afternoon to tighten up so we can get back out on it. Wet concrete, pickup truck, wireless laptop and prep high bowl talk ………the Flintstones meet the 21st centur.y
December 16th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Gades,
Think if I pull a stunt like that we may get ourselves a plane with DLS logo and a bi o’l Spartan head on the tale? Boy, that would really piss off some of the bloggers huh?
December 16th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Thanks Concrete! We’ll be ready!
December 16th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Does anybody have any information on the DLS mom who was removed from the SRV/DLS soccer game the other day for obnoxious behavior ?
Spartan Class on display.
Bambam any information?
December 16th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Footballfan
No, I don’t know who it was but keep in mind that when these two teams meet it can get very spirited on the field and in the stands. Both sides can be over the edge, so it doesn’t suprise me at all. That is why Owens field can be bad. The fans are closer to the field than most schools and the fans generally sit on same side of the field together. Parents start to yell for fouls on one side and then the other side starts yelling. The next thing you know is that a parent goes over the top and gets popped and keep in mind it doeasn’t mean that the other side didn’t do the same but that person is an example. Not sure if that is the case but the last three years of experience in EBAL certain school match ups can be very intense for both sides.
Carondelet forfeited a match against SRV tonight that most likeley hurt their dream season. It’s a shame but apparently it was action taken by the A.D. at Carondelet on something that happened on facebook. I’ll give it to DLS and Carondelet, when reflecting something negative towards the school and its mission statement, they don’t mess around.
December 16th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Footballfan, it’s great to see that because a parent gets out of control and is removed from a game that it is indicative of an entire population as a whole. That would be like some tourists from another country seeing the KKK and thinking that all Americans must be like that. I don’t know which school you support, but I’m willing to be that parents and students have been kicked out of games before for similar offenses. I guess I’m not surprised by this coming up on the board though since apparently DLS gets judged here based on a few posters as well. I have been involved in youth and high school sports for awhile and I can assure you that all the schools, public or private have their over the top parents who take things way too far. But it wouldn’t be fair to judge those schools based on a few parents now would it? And it doesn’t matter who it was, and their name shouldn’t be released on here. It’s not necessarily that I care about the adult, but for the player’s sake that should be left alone.
December 17th, 2010 at 12:44 am
I remember i attended the NCS division one championship game for baseball two years ago it was Freedom vs De La Salle. I am a Freedom fan.. and i sat right behind home plate up a few rows. On my left was De la salle fans and parents and on my right was freedom parents and fans. I will never get over the true colors that de la salle fans display. They really take S*** personally. Like seriously its no joke. It felt good looking at their faces losing to a public school. They took it like an embarrassment. The fans are more into it then the players
December 17th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Bambam and Renegades 10,
I agree with both of you. My post should have been reworded. I was asking about the incident and not the individuals name. Was I trying to get my point accross, yes; as both of you do.
December 17th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Jim #196…”It felt good looking at their faces losing to a public school.”…….sums up the purpose of your entire post.
I work at football games in the fall and high school swim invitational in the spring where there are both publics and private school student athletes participating along with their parents & fans in support. I like the work I do because it allows me to interact with the fans, talking players, leagues, college possibilities, and just general parent conversation. Having done it now for several years I have made friends and acquaintances at several of the schools that I look forward to seeing when the schools hook up for competition.
I can guarantee you while the vast majority of students, parents and supporting fans are a tribute to their respective schools there is no monopoly or shortage of flaming B-holes from any one school. Just be thankful none of those idiots are not your spouse or in-law.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Jim
I can agree with you that DLS parents in general don’t like to lose but it has nothing to do with private vs public in my opinion. What I have noticed is that the parents of EBAL teams and DLS is included have very involved parents. These parents can be too involved at times and let me say myself can be included to this to where I have pushed my son or daughter to hard at times. As you can imagine, the competition can be great at these schools to play or make the team. So some parents not all might be on edge as much as the students and I know that it isn’t right but this is in my opinion on what happens sometimes. I think DLS is a great school and strives to be the best but there is no perfect school as there are no perfect people.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Bambam,
I think you summed it up very well. I hope that we can stop with the attacks and talk about sports. After all, this is a prep sports blog. Stay dry everyone and best of luck to the North this weekend in Carson! Injury free championships and hopefully we can bring home some championship bling!
December 18th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
Post 160.
Cal High had a higher GPA last year for football than DLS did. Your smarter kid arguement doesn’t work.
December 19th, 2010 at 12:02 am
What a funny discourse. DLS treats all opponents with equal respect, public or private. Witness the result tonight. All hail the superior system with obvious advantages.
The 5 and 5 proposal merits serious consideration, though reorganization to establish a bay area section makes much more sense. Then the WCAL could become the BACAL.
In addition, private v. private finals and public v. public finals make sense as well. But then again, few if any of the arguments presented on this blog make “sense.” TRUE.
BTW, last time I checked, our public school tax dollars actually paid for a majority of DLS’ trip to SOCAL.
December 19th, 2010 at 12:40 am
Looks like smartier kids won tonite- Cal would have lost by 3 tds.
December 19th, 2010 at 1:05 am
You can pencil in ANY team you want tonite, in those game conditions De La Salle and ANY conditions, they literally whip any team in California and beyond tonite. They have really got stronger in the playoffs- these kids want to WIN and prove a point. The EBAL would have been kicked in the state games- get real- a couple of close- yeah 2-4 td games would have been 5 to 6 tds tonite. SoCal would ru n over the EBAL, WCAl and the SJS teams period. A couple of teams would stick close or mabey win, DLS is the standard and you better not forget it.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:47 am
BigJoe,
You are sure full of yourself and DLS. Yes, they are the standard for high school football in the state and maybe the country. But to diminish the accomplishments of other NorCal teams to prove how great DLS is, is being a jerk. Be happy it is easy to be a DLS fan.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:30 am
YoMama,
When I read your posts, I don’t know weather you graduated from a public or private school, but either way I know you didn’t graduate at the top of your class.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:14 am
post #206 change weather to “whether”, I graduated #2
December 19th, 2010 at 11:02 am
John, I was magna cum lad. Ask your momma.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Outsider, that’s why you are an outsider.
December 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
My award for bloggers on here:
2010 Awards:
The “Talks the most, but knows the least” Award:
Winner – BillJohnson
The Rundown –
This loser had been cut by several programs but yet still feels as if he knows more than everyone. He attacks every coaching staff & program. Spewing nothing but hate.
The “Bad example for a daddy/coach” Award
Winner – Island02
The Rundown -
Island02 made comments regarding his son’s retirement without his son’s consent after he knew the real problem was his son’s grades. After his son had to get on the blog and clear the air island02 started back tracking sayin he misunderstood his son!!!! Who is he a reporter for a tabloid or a cunnningham’s father? Then after pretending to be a coach on the Alameda sideline he quits and then airs the “dirty laundry” on the staff. B/c his son wasn’t given any kisses & hugs after his injury. Truly a season to rememebr on the island, WHAT A JERK!
The “Biggest Mouth” Award:
Winner: Donjuan01
The rundown: This joker claimed that Arroyo would win the league and that their coach was the best in the East bay. They did beat SL but they lost to a weak Newark team & went to overtime with TENNYSON!!! NCS, 1st round KABLOOEYED to top it all off!!!! What happened?
The “El Tonto” Award
Winner – Yo Mama
The rundown -
Tired a$$ mom jokes combined with unfunny one-liners make this dude a dud.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Here’s my top East Bay teams now.
1. De La
2. Concord
3. California
4. McClymonds
5. Encinal
6. Salesian
7. San Ramon
December 20th, 2010 at 8:52 am
All East Bay selections should be
QB- Lloyd(Con) Houston(DLS) 2nd team
RB- Dunne(DLS)
OL- Wynn(DLS)
DL- Wynn(DLS)
LB- Renaud(DLS) Barton(DLS) 2nd team
DB- Williams(DLS)
WR- Sharpiro (DLS) 2nd team
and 2 more DLS ofensive linemen, you pick ‘em on 2nd team.
The O Line is the best in the state this year.
December 20th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
The Island Chief turns out to be an Island Squaw.