Comments on: East Bay boys basketball poll — 1/31

By: MacT

MacT — Sat, 05 Feb 2011 13:36:28 +0000

ok for those CV haters Salesian beat us by 2 points and we started of very slow and made it a game that we almost won and we lost by 2 to Berkeley in ot we are the best team in the Bay yes the HAAL is terrible but we beat good teams outside of the HAAL like Sheldon and Jessuit and beat them pretty good including the Odowd win so i think that its fair CV is the best team in the bay and we will see once the playoffs start

By: bsmith

bsmith — Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:34:32 +0000

AND…. there team along with the rest of the haal is terrible besides BOD and CV that is the worst league around from top to bottom if it were a typical CV team and good BOD team that would be considerd the worst league in the eastbay so he is putting up good stats VS terrible teams BIG DEAL

By: NorCal Unranked

NorCal Unranked — Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:06:27 +0000

Khiari Swift from Arroyo ran the boards with 21 and ran the the rim along with James Davis. Khiari Swift went for 35 points Friday night 2-4-11

By: Prep Fan

Prep Fan — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:59:29 +0000

Only 2 D1 teams will make NorCals this year from NCS, as there are not enough D1 teams to qualify 4 since Wahington, American and I believe Arroyo moved down to D2 thi year. There are currently 22 teams in D1, but 25 are needed in order to qualify 4 teams. Each of the other divisions will qualify 4 teams. For that reason alone, they should have moved some teams arund so that we qualify 4 teams in each division.

http://cifncs.org/sports/basketball/

By: Animal

Animal — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:59:02 +0000

Division 1 boys Bball wow ! It’s up n the air , can’t wait to see who makes it to nor cals

By: dfready2go

dfready2go — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:54:10 +0000

people were always saying kennedy wasnt a good team but now that they beat newark they showed they are a top team they should be in the top 5 murry and mann are carrying that team and should get big respect for it.

By: Oh boy

Oh boy — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 06:21:21 +0000

DLS lost to the 10. Oakland lost to the 14. O’Dowd had that L last week. Quite a dilemma for the prep sports staff of the Bay Area News Group-East Bay…

Is St. Joe’s (D5)a top 2 team? Salesian has to be punished but they’re clearly better than EC, Berkeley and Kennedy. So where do they go?

By: Jimmy Durkin

Jimmy Durkin — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 05:01:05 +0000

Bsmith,
Here is the way we look at it. NCS ruled that Bird was ineligible for those games in which he played because of the paper work violation. Question the wording of the paper work, but it was technically a violation. Salesian doesn’t even dispute that. The point of a transfer needing to disclose pre-enrollment contact is so the NCS can investigate prior to clearing the athlete. It didn’t learn until a couple weeks ago of the pre-enrollment contact, it investigated and found that there was no wrong doing.

But the ruling from NCS was that Bird was not eligible until they investigated so he was ineligible in those games. Our take is that we have to judge Salesian based on what they might have been without Bird in those games. As I’ve said previously, it’s questionable that they still beat Castro Valley without Bird. And you have to factor in the loss to St. Joe’s with Bird. I think our ranking of Salesian is very fair. It balances what they team has done, but doesn’t completely ignore the forfeits. If the forfeits get overturned, they’ll leap back. But for now, we cannot ignore the forfeits.

You seem to think it’s a black and white situation of either rank ‘em on their on-court record or rank them on their on-paper record. It’s not that simple. We hate these situations because it makes ranking difficult. But we have to weigh the number of factors. And because we have seven voters, we get to have seven opinions factored into our poll. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. But we vote as we see fit and this is how we see fit.

By: bsmith

bsmith — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 04:22:16 +0000

I have no problems with giving them the forfeits although it is wrong, but if you are saying that they are 4-17 then they should not be on the poll at all so why move them down a few spots for the forfeits when they should be #1 or not on the poll at all get a clue prep corner

By: Prep Fan

Prep Fan — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 02:23:50 +0000

Oh if it only were quite that simple. They are not the first team to have forfeited games. Like I said above, should those wins get reinstated, they will most likely move right back up in the polls. But there are very good teams ahead of them with no forfeit losses, one who beat them head to head.

I’m not sure how the NCS seeding committee will treat the forfeits come playoff time, but since they are sanctions from the NCS it could cost them some home games should those forfeit losses not get reinstated. Since they will surely finish above .500 in league whether or not the losses are reinstated, they’ll get a playoff spot but it remains to be seen where they will be placed.