- East Bay Prep Corner
Locals accept walk-on offers
By Ben Enos
Saturday, February 5th, 2011 at 10:50 am in East Bay Football.
With National Signing Day now behind us, schools are starting to fill out their rosters with preferred walk-ons, and we’ve got a couple guys that have accepted offers to some pretty good programs.
One of those is Ygnacio Valley’s Grant Jones, who has accepted a walk-on offer to BYU. Jones played receiver and linebacker at YV, but projects as a pass-catching tight end in college with his 6-foot-5 frame and good hands. He had an offer from Dartmouth as well.
At Miramonte, offensive lineman Ross Dolbec has accepted a preferred walk-on offer to Washington, according to Rivals.com. Dolbec checks in at 6-foot-5, 306 pounds and he’ll head to Seattle to play offensive line for the Huskies. He also had a walk-on offer from Arizona.
And, finally, Dawgman.com reports that the Huskies have also snagged San Ramon Valley defensive lineman Ben Teichman. Teichman had offers from Army, Navy, Sacramento State, Cal Poly and North Dakota but decided he wanted to play in the Pac-10 and took the walk-on offer. Teichman is 6-foot-1, 275 pounds.
Congrats to all three!
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February 6th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Ben any word on Giles Chapman?
February 6th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Giles has not signed yet. He is going to be a star corner. Bergman made a big mistake by not embracing this kid and helping him. He could have helped MV over the last 2 years.
February 6th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Agree with you on the Bergman comment. I heard he did not even have an event on signing day and had 3 football players sign. I also saw he called a D1 school garbage for not recruiting one of his players that did not receive any scholarships. How is that going to help that school going forward. Coaches move around and word gets out about coaches like that.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Bergman does not embrace any of his players… Hear nothing but horrible things about him.
Hope the best for Giles
February 7th, 2011 at 4:33 am
There is no doubt Bergy is not a player’s coach. All he wants to do is run his “spectacular” passing game. He has no compassion for his kids and they know it. Guy never plays defense and hopes his 35 points wins the game. He had 4 D1 players on his team 2 years ago and had difficulty winning games. His lackey, Babcock, makes fun of the players on his swag board – which really demotivates the entire team. If he doesn’t like these kids, or helps them, he should get out of coaching.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:23 am
What about Kyle Egan from SRV. That kid is a stud and is getting a raw deal. Reminds me of what former Cal high star Nick Rosato went through as a senior. Similar players, both seemingly overlooked by colleges.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:18 am
I know from personal experience that it is hard work to get exposure for a kid that isn’t already on college radar by his junior year. There is a misconception out there that if you’re good, colleges will find you and offer you a scholarship, which isn’t true. Relationships with college coaches have to be worked on by the player, the parents and the coaches to get noticed, and that takes time, effort and a little bit of money for film, postage, application fees, camps, etc.
What is COMMONLY overlooked by many athletes is their grades. I’ve known too many great players that blew off school and academics because they were going to get a ride somewhere. Unless you’re all-world, colleges won’t waste their time on an athlete that can’t hack it in the classroom. Too many of these guys realize too late that their grades mattered, even after being told that from the very beginning by coaches, teachers and parents. Sometimes being looked over due to grades is a high school kid’s first dose of adult reality, and it sucks.
Congratulations to these guys for getting a walk-on shot. It’s not uncommon for walk-ons to work a bit harder and be a bit hungrier than the scholarshipped guys that feel some entitlement.
Both UW and BYU are big time D1 programs, getting a preferred walk-on at either of those schools is a huge compliment to their abilities.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Rosato ended up at Cal Berkeley, but I know he has been oft injured and I’m not sure how much playing time he has gotten. If Egan ends up with a degree from a school like Cal, that would not be too much of a raw deal.
I’m still waiting to hear about some of the Cal High players. They were the second ranked team in the East Bay this year and evidently had no athletes? How good would they have been with a couple of Cream of the Crop players? I’m sure a lot of the teams they beat this year would be able to point out a few college level studs. Some of these kids are very talented & hard working and would benefit a college football program.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Rosato had to walk on at Cal, and noone is talking about Egan going there. By raw deal I mean he is a top east bay linebacker with 0 offers. A raw deal to me. Rosato was league mvp and had no offers. I just don’t understand what kids like this don’t have that colleges are looking for. Several years ago, a foothill linebacker Andrews was given a scholarship by San Diego state. He was good but in my opinion nowhere near Rosato and Egan.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
BigMike…. Heard the same things you say… good friends boy played for them last year… this swag board is an abusive form of bullying from the Big-Guy coach often crossing the line.
February 7th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Football Fanatic… quote from Danville Patch
“If some of these garbage teams like San Jose State think Bryce isn’t good enough to play for them they better win more than one game,” Bergman said. “I told (colleges) that if they don’t recruit Bryce they might as well not recruit at Monte Vista because they’re not going to find a better player here.”
Crap!
February 7th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
NCS: Babcock is a complete joke. Catch a pass,he is your friend. Miss a block, he doesn’t talk to you. He coaches no aspect of the Offense or Defense. Craig’s grade school friend. Bergman is the worst coach to his players, they all HATE him. He should quit. He doesn’t return any parent’s phone calls, let’s Babcock tear down his team on the SWAG board that are harrassment and actionable. They both deserve each other. I cannot imagine another coach in this league that demeans their boys they way these two guys do.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Prep Fan, If your waiting from news about Cal High players being recruited you could probably use that energy somewhere else. Cal was totally bypassed. There were several schools at one point checking out Trevor Taft, Kyle Alvarez, Joe Pearson and Rich Garwood. Colleges even showed up at Cal High to watch these players in practice and at games. When signing day came the phones fell silent. If you go to MaxPreps and compare players from Cal with their counterparts who were offered and signed LOI’s, you will be left scratching your head when you see the results. They compare to be as good or better then the players picked up. That’s too bad for as these players as at least these four could contribute at the D1 & D1-AA level and should have been ignored they way they were.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
I meant to say should not have been ignored the way they were in #13 above.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Oh, that’s not the worst of it. They harrass kids that are physically unable to perform and treat them like crap. That SWAG board is known by Bergman who is the AD. They put NOTHING positive up, just put downs and negatives. They refuse to talk to the parents, Bergman NEVER returns phone calls. If you want to go to MV, know a couple of things. 1] you will always have a jerk for a strength coach – the new one worse than the last 2] You will win 7 or 8 games and the staff is okay with that 3] Unless you are the QB or a receiver-don’t expect to get any form of coaching. They don’t know how and they don’t care.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Grizzly Fan- do you know for a FACT if their grades and SAT scores were good enough? Often times we’re left scratching our heads as to why a great athlete is passed over, and my experience has been nobody knows or mentions that they were dismal students. Remember Patrone Wood from YV last year? An absolute bowling ball on both offense and defense, but wasn’t even going to graduate until just a few days before the actual graduation day. He got a ride to Seton Hill in PA, but I hear he’s coming back to DVC this year. Colleges HATE THAT, picking up a kid that can’t make it academically, it’s just a waste of time, money and a roster slot that could have gone to somebody that would be an asset to the team and school.
There are so many moving parts to the recruiting process, you MUST be proactive and make things happen for yourself, and nothing kills your talent quicker than poor grades.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
What’s the swag board?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Looks like we have 2 Big Mikes on this blog I have a space between Big & Mike
These coaches should not be allowed to get away with this kind of abuse on kids. Lets remember they are not full adults yet. There is some real anger here on how these kids are being treated. I suppose there is also fear amongst these kids feeling no one will listen or maybe made to feel like a sissy if they say something.
Varsity Head Coach/ AD same person can be a problem.
Who makes a swag board? Sounds like only to cut down kids….
February 7th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I have read every comment here on Bergman and Babcock – every single one is correct.
crossing the line on swag board? the line has been crossed long ago. Bergman does not return phone calls or emails. Till this day he has never returned NOT ONE of my emails/phone calls to him. BUT he gets the emails alright how do I know? send in a complaint he does not like and BINGO it will end up on the swag board, only to humiliate the player.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Parents need to do something not allowing this to happen.
February 7th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
That is a low blow there Hard Work #16. Unless you know particulars (and even then), you should not be starting rumors like that. I don’t know for a fact what each of their grades or SAT scores are, but I do know that some of these kids have excellent grades and should be given a chance at playing at the next level. There is always JC ball, but this is regarding kids being overlooked at the 4 year school level.
I noticed that no Cal High kids were selected in the Cream of the Crop hopefuls list for next season while SRV had 3 or 4. Don’t tell me this list is based on grades. I guess the Grizzly team next year will suck as bad as they did this year without the preseason hype that others get, and SRV will be once again dominant. It cost Drew Reil this season that no one knew who he was coming into the season, but there were plenty of Grizzly juniors this year such Armani Washington who excelled all season and should not be overlooked coming into next season.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Prep Fan- starting rumors like what? I didn’t start any rumors, I was just stating that often times athletes are overlooked due to things other than athleticism. I know for a fact that when college coaches call on a HS coach they are often asked FIRST off, who can make it academically at D-1, SECOND who doesn’t have any character problems (like drugs, arrests, thefts, suspensions), THIRD who can play football at that level.
I wasn’t saying that the Cal kids had bad grades, I’m just saying that we as fans only see a small fraction of what it takes to play football at the highest college levels.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
BigMike – Unacceptable by these coaches
swag board should be reported… Parents need to cut off where it hurts… $$$
February 7th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
What school had the most guys signed?
February 7th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Fair enough Hard Work. No worries. I know it happens and there are kids who don’t get into certain schools because of grades. It just seemed like you were talking about Grizzlies since you were directing it to Grizzly fan. We don’t know if these kids are “dismal students” or rocket scientists. But even mentioning Patrone by name was a little harsh. Coaches I think are fair game, and Bergman’s detractors can lay into him all they want, but 17 year old student athletes are a different story, especially without any real basis. One would think that if a certain kid couldn’t get into a Stanford for instance, there might be a plan B college with lesser entrance requirements waiting in the wings to snap them up. But they seem to be giving the Cal High kids the Heisman stiff arm. I guess the coaching must have been pretty darn good to win all those games without any college prospects and/or possibly having dismal students who can’t interpret the plays or listen to instructions.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
I would like to second what Hard Work is saying. Never before have grades been such a determining factor in College recruiting – in ALL sports. The NCAA is toughening the rules, and school administrators are cracking down on coaches (some coach’s contracts are now tied to graduation rates of their players). Unless you are the rare superstar, colleges just cannot afford to sign you if your grades are not decent/good. Many kids don’t get this message until it is too late, and their GPA can’t recover. Take a look at who is going to CCSF. You will see a veritable all-star team of Bay Area talent, and many are kids who did not meet the academic requirements of the D1 colleges.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
In regard to Patrone, he’s an adult now, and as far as I’m concerned MUCH different than calling out HS players. He’s had his shot, been to college across the country and couldn’t make it work. He was in a catch-22 situation, if they didn’t figure out something to let him graduate from YV at the eleventh hour, he would never had had the chance to give college a try. On the other hand, he was clearly not equipped out of HS to go to a college as unprepared as he was. He would have been (in my uninformed opinion) MUCH better off going straight to DVC and working out college academics coupled with college football with local and family support. Instead, he is enamored with getting a ride to somewhere, goes across the country away from family with poor academic habits and ends up coming back……to DVC. One year of eligibility blown, confidence probably shaken, very little playing time and nothing to show for his “ride”.
Parents and coaches need to understand that the ride isn’t the goal, the education and development of the boy to a man should be paramount. Statistically, NONE of these kids are going to pay the rent with football…..ever.
Bringing it back to the original topic, I’m impressed with Teichman for walking on at UW, it’s probably the best opportunity he had for a quality education, and he’ll pay his own way until he can prove he’s worthy of a football scholarship. With offers of a ride (I’m assuming that’s what Ben meant by “offers”) from 5 other schools, I’m guessing that was a tough decision.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
You’re right EastBay Fan, DVC and CCSF will be loaded with names we’ve been hearing all year. Not all of them are due to academic issues, but I personally know of a handful that are directly tied to their lack of academic qualification to go to a bigger school. I think it’ll be the best for them anyway….Butte College sure liked that kid named Aaron Rodgers, thinks have worked out OK for him.
Even Kyle Havens, the QB from YV that did nothing but run the wing in HS went on to a good career at DVC and then was picked up by UMASS and started there for a couple of years. In the end, he has a degree from UMASS, all expenses paid. I’d say Kyle wins that match.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Yep, the degree is the ultimate goal all players and parents should be after.
February 8th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Finally, some people who make sense! I preach grades all the time. My kid even tells other kids how you can’t mess around with your grades starting Freshman year because the colleges are now looking at all four academic years. Think about it, if you keep your grades up all the time, you won’t have to work so hard playing catch up during your sports season to stay eligible. One other thing, depending on where you plan on going, you have to have passed “certain” classes. I did all my research prior to my kid starting high school and more parents should as well. Let’s not bank on our kids talent alone getting them a free education.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:05 am
The Grizzly players mentioned above all had the grades to go D1 or D1-AA. I know them all and they are outstanding students, footbal players and citizens. Some of these players already have been accepted into schools they have applied to, however the football programs had others players in mind. We all could speculate why they were not selected on this forum but it should be the recruiting coaches second guessed because these Cal Grizzly players had met their requirements both on and off the field and certainly in the classroom. I know at least one that will be heading to a local JC for continued education and to continue playing football. I say kudos to him.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Grizzly Fan said:
“I know them all and they are outstanding students, football players and citizens.”
If that’s the case, then kudos to all of them. In the overall scheme of things, football means nothing. Smart kids and good citizens is what society needs, not a thug that can run a 4.4.
Good for them.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
I’m new at this, but I’ve learned a few things this year. For a kid to get a D1 scholarship he needs:
1) Size, speed and talent. All three, 2 of 3 doesn’t make it.
2) Decent grades, over 3.0 is preferable, but under 3.0 will work given enough of #1 above.
3) Decent SAT scores, must be over 1,500 at least. Especially important if the GPA is under 3.0.
4) The player needs to complete the classes in high school that are required by the NCAA for admittance into the college. X years of English, X of math, etc. This is really important, the player will not get into a D1 college if he hasn’t taken and passed the required number of courses. His counselor at high school can contact the college in question and confirm their requirements (most colleges’ requirements are the same, a few are different). This should be done before the player’s senior season, and no later than January of his senior season, so the counselor can add the classes needed for college admittance to his senior year class schedule. When the counselor smells a scholarship for your player, she will do anything possible to rearrange your players schedule to make sure that your player can take the required courses.
4) A high school head coach who will send out letters and highlight film to colleges to recommend your player. It takes just a minute or two for a coach to e-mail a short note, and attach your player’s highlight film, to several colleges. This gets the ball rolling. The college coaches will rarely look at unsolicited tape sent in by the kids themselves. But they will look at them if sent in by the head coach of the high school. These should to be e-mailed to the position coach of the position that your player plays, the head coach, and the local recruiter for that particular college.
5) Go to any summer camps sponsored by the colleges. These camps are 1-3 day workouts where they put the kids through the paces and teach them how to play their positions. The coaches get to confirm the size, speed and talent of your player, and also get to know him and his character, and also find out how hard he’ll work (Fresno State had 3 workouts during one camp on a 100 degree day). You make invaluable contacts at these camps. You (the player and the parent) get to meet the position coach, get a dialogue going, and it’s very important. Once the position coach trusts the parents’ judgement, he will actually look at kids (and then forward the tape to the correct position coach) that the parent recommends (see #4). The head coach is busy, don’t bother with him, the position coaches are the one’s who make recommendations to the head coach.
6) The position coach at the camp will invite the player to come to the college and watch the home games (free ticket, of course). If the player is interested in the college, go to some of these games. They’re on Saturday, and the player can usually make it easily. It’s an easy way to unofficially visit the school, they can meet the college players, tour the facilities, visit with the coaches and establish a relationship, and best of all, they can bring their friends who can bring their tapes (amazingly, this works).
6) If a recruiter is visiting player #1, player #2 should drop by, meet the recruiter for a minute and give him his tape. The scout will look at it.
7) On the highlight films, put the best plays at the front of the tape. Show the players talent at all facets of the position, not just the glamor parts.
Well, that’s it. Not very much, is it? I should have paid more attention
February 8th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
BullDog you’re pretty right on with what I’ve heard of rectuiting. Before you’re anything you have to have a highlight it all starts there. Thats the beginning of the process. Then you’re a transcript. That has to be right. If both of those meet par for that particular school then they take a look & see if the kid meets the eye test. Soem of these go out of oreder like the eye test recruiter may do that first if he always visits a school but then the recruiter will want to see highlight, transcript.
I’ve heard that the Contact Camps don’t do a lot for your over all recruiting except recruiting for that particular school. Can’t expect to go to a Cal Camp & get more recruited by UCLA.
I haven’t heard that tapes given to colleges reallly matter from who as long as they get them. Coaches recomendation doesn’t carry as much weight. WHat coach isn’t gonna push his players.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Bulldogforever illustrated my point from post #7 much better than I did.
I think too many of these players, coaches and parents don’t understand that to be noticed and offered is a JOB. Kids presume that since they were all-league or had a great Cal camp that D1 coaches will be trying to find them.
There are over 27,000 high schools in the US, and only 119 D1 college football teams.
Assuming there are 40 kids on a HS football team and 105 on a college team, there are 1,080,000 HS football players and 12,495 roster spots on D1 teams. Cut the number of kids in HS that would like to play D1 football in half (from 40 t0 20), and you have 540,000 HS football players. Figure then that only 30 of those D1 roster spots are open each year to incoming freshman, means that over five hundred thousand HS players are fighting for only 3500 opportunities to play D1 football.
Just over 1% of all football players in the US will ever be on a D1 team, and .03% of graduating seniors will find a spot on a D1 team their freshman year in college. A MUCH smaller portion of that number will ever see the field on a Saturday.
I think this is where the understanding of kids and parents break down. “little Johnny was all-league first team, why is nobody looking at him?” Because there are literally a half a million other football players employing varying degrees of effective SALES techniques to get their kid noticed.
Some parents will pay exorbitant amounts of money to third parties for videotapes, highlight films, coach access, camp, trainers, etc. Others will do nothing more than sit by the phone and hope some big time coach calls and offers a full ride. When nobody calls, then somehow they got screwed.
I’m not making this point in regard to any kids in particular, I don’t know the Cal kids or what they did or didn’t do to try to get picked up somewhere. I do have firsthand knowledge and experience in exposing a player to D1 programs.
For many HS kids, this is the first time in their lives that they’ve wanted something and it wasn’t given to them. It’s a hard reality that slaps them in the face when they find out that their grades, citizenship, work ethic, intensity, etc. has a real impact on their dreams. Up to this point, parents, coaches and teachers were there to make everything OK so they could be the star on Friday night. It all comes crashing down rather quickly when the season is over and they realize that they have been neglecting those things that will make them able to move on to the next level. Not the least of which is marketing themselves at every opportunity, as Bulldogforever points out.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Bulldog & Hardwork,
Great stuff. Finally someone that knows what they’re talking about took the time to express it. All of what what you listed Bulldog is true, but it still all comes back to number 1. All of your points are valid as well Hardwork, but I take exception to the “sales” and marketing slant. That is all fine and maybe nessecary to be looked at, but, that’s all it will get you. If you’re a player, you’re a player. If you’re not, you’re not. That’s why many parents/players justify not being offered-” I’m better than so ans so, they just marketed themselves better”. Wrong. College football is a big money, cut throat business. Coaches don’t make a habit of handing out ships on a whim.
So many high school parents, fans, and even coaches don’t realize that high school football and college football are two different games. It’s like slow-pitch softball versus good baseball. You can have a star baseball player join a slow pitch sofball team for the summer. The baseball player is an excellent hitter, can handle a 90 plus MPH fastball, slider, anything. He playea on the local slow pitch team, and is not hitting home runs like some of the distinctly less talented, athletic, regulars on the team. To the undicerning eye, most would think the slow pitch players are better than him . They would be wrong, two different games. This is what you get all the time from high school football fans and parents regarding recruiting. They do not know what the college coach is looking for.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
With that said, I find it hard to believe Giles Chapman didn’t sign with someone. He is an excellent athlete with all the qualities you want in a cornerback. I saw him at the Nike camp a couple of years ago and he held his own against some of the top prospects on the West Coast.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
Posts 7 & 33…summed up very well..
February 8th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Swagboard? And where do I find it?
February 8th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
swag board posted in boys locker room during football season. Some parents find out from their son who the targets are for the week to be made fun of…. Just like post #5 and #12 he said it best
February 9th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
That’s pretty hard to believe, posted by the coaches in the locker room. VERY surprised this hasn’t been outed. I mean, cell phones have cameras nowadays. Hard to keep things quiet on something like this.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Ben, Jimmy,
Just learned that Barton from DLS got an offer from University of Washington….saw the confirmation on scout.com…
February 10th, 2011 at 12:45 am
Prep Fan, that’s because of Reputation. SRV had Roy Helu Jr just four years ago. Who has Cal had since then? James Sleagle? Nick Spalleiro? fyi I am concerned with UC Berkeley because Dylan Tonneson and Nick Rosato were both out standing players and well deserved MVPS in their sports, and its a sham what budget cuts did to those boys. I’m not touting one program over another, just a perceived bias towards the best players on each school that came out in recent years to go out and produce. Injury plagued Sam Keller and David Gory no fault of theirs just sometimes take momentum to build up before the eyes of the PAC12,MWC,etcc
February 10th, 2011 at 11:21 am
S1lverngreen, thanks for the heads up! Barton’s a player, no question. He’d be a good Pac-12 fit, I think.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
As a Former MV Player, I need to stop this madness. You will not find a better Coach than Coach Bergman. Not only does he know the sport of football inside and out, but by no means is he “HATED” by his players. Babcock is the most inspirational coach I have ever played for. This man loves all 40-45 of his players year in and year out and would go to battle for any one of them. The “Swag Board” is being blown WAY out of proportion. This poster, posted weekly about an opponent, is a tool of motivation. My teammates and I would walk into the team room every Monday, excited to see what it would say. As a player that was featured on the “Swag Board” several times, I know what it is really there for. It sits in the team room every week, just to remind you what you did right and wrong the previous week, and how you will not make those mistakes again, because trust me you don’t want to be on the board week after week. From what I have read, none of you previous bloggers have played for neither Bergman nor Babcock, so please hold back your hateful comments, because both these men have made a huge impact on my life, and I will always have a place in my heart for them.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
I have a couple points,
Giles Chapman is not a team player and in my eyes is over rated. He has played at 4 different schools in his four years of high school. This reflects the kid NOT Bergman. Bergman is a great coach, he cares about his players very much. He works extremely hard to bring coaches in to look at his players and get them to the next level. A reason why Bergman doesn’t accept phone call is because he get so many from parents complaining about playing time. It should be a players responsibility to talk to a coach about playing time, not his mom or dad. The swag board for all of you that have no clue what your saying is to get the boys motivated and to work hard in practice. It is not all bad stuff, there is positive things on there to. It is something between the boys and their team. After every win the player of the game gets the swag board and that is voted on by the players. Lastly for those of you taking shots at the strength and conditioning coach, thats BS because he is a former player and he knows what hes talking about. He forms a bond with his players and the players know that coach has got their back. Regalia has made these boys mentally strong and put them into to tip top shape. Bergman and Babcock have turned the program around the last 15 years. No wonder MV is a top team year in and year out.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Re: PrepFan #43, Cal has had a lot of good players since Helu played at SRV. Leroy Green led the EBAL in rushing 2 yeas ago, Reggie Davis and Gio Javier (now at UC Davis) last year just to name a few. And this year they were loaded enough to beat MV 45-3, beat SRV twice and run the table aside from DLS.
I believe Dylan Tonneson sined a pro baseball contract after playing at Berkeley for a couple of seasons. He was a solid football player, but probably even better at baseball.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
Can’t forget about Nevada’s starting center either. He attended Cal High
February 10th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Motivating kids sounds like a tough thing to do in the age of video games, personal trainers and aau coaches. The swag board might be a way to the get the attention of the entire football program. I understand that Brett Nottingham spent almost the entire year on the swag board. Some of the posts sound like the things mentioned in the video, “My Coach Sucks.” google it.
How does one comment on a parent who lives behind a blog posting? Sounds like a parent who has 3 boys that had a problem with every team they played for. The answer was quitting 4 sports. What tops it?
The dad goes to the next game following his middle son quitting, tries to talk to the coach and then sits behind the bench smiling after every opponent score?
Did Big Mike have some unreturned emails from Coach Bergman?
February 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Former MV Player, why dont you ask Bergman to be your Valentine while you’re at it? Or take Babcock to the prom? Nice post you little fairy.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Nice, real classy. I give credit where credit is due. I don’t deal with immature, ignorant, people like yourself. If you had ever played a down within the white lines I maybe would have respected you but fact of the matter is, you were the kid that got no play time, and blamed everyone but yourself. Take some credit for your actions.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Prep Fan(s) 43,47. Tonneson went in the 36th round,to the Padres, following his Jr. year at Cal. Started for Esquer two years as a Soph/Jr. Out of the pros now, he’s earning his degree. Rosato, EBAL MVP in 07 did not pan out as a recruited walk-on for Tedford due to injuries after a year at Strawberry Canyon. Green, Spalliero twins went JUCO, Green as a Comet in ’10 for ‘Zo at CCC, twins @ Chabot. RDavis at CCSF, a decent pipeline to 4 years (Desmond Bishop to Cal now a ring with the Pack.) Javier is indeed an Aggie at Davis. And Jeff Meads, Cal Hi Class of 07 centered for Kaepernick this whole fall season as the Nevada Wolfpack had an historic season, crushing a BCS hope for Boise. Gory, like Meads, missed his senior HS season with knee injuries. He is still playing for Fresno State.
…yep, now have a ’14 too.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Coach posers posing as Former MV Player, EBALsupporter & Knute Rockne or Babcock in disguise only he would know the facts about his boy Bergman. Not HATED by the players…. good one. Hey Former MV Player if you want to claim this love for Bergman then identify yourself. Yeah we will see how much you really LOVED Bergman.
Swag Board to get the boys motivated? You call that trash motivation? Do you even know the meaning of motivation? NO Because you’ve never tried it… Look it up man you might be surprised with what you read… You are so way out of touch… If you think boys do not talk about what is on the swag board… only coaches who are so out of touch with their players would think this.
Post #5 & #12 say it best.
Regalia – Real good guy should not be mentioned here
February 10th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
If everyone were to reveal their true identity here you would not hear half of what is actually posted. I will not reveal my true identity because I know who I am, and quite honestly don’t care if you believe I am Babcock, Bergman, or anyone else.
February 10th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Giles didn’t get a scholarship b/c no school wanted him. It’s really that simple.
February 10th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
F-MV Player…. Not asking everyone to reveal their identity just asking you “within the white lines” tough boy.
Betcha can’t do it. Lets see how true your support really is
February 11th, 2011 at 6:32 am
My2cents whats your identity? Just asking you.
Bad experience at MV? Disgruntled so you need to take shots on the coaches?
This must be your cleansing.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Hardwork:
your post above breaking down the numbers of hs players vs. D1 spots available is pretty accurate.
What is sad about regarding D1 is that many players get to that level and end up hating it because all of the fun goes away.
Any player from hs able to move onto to D1, D2 or D3 should be thrilled, love it because it all goes away to quickly, and it’s a privelage to play ball.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Yes, please identify yourself as well “My2Cents”… I would love to hear who you are. You seem to know so much about the Monte Vista Football Program. Revealing my identity would be pointless due to the fact that I have already defended my coaches, and said what I wanted to say. I have a sneaky suspicion you either are an unathletic MV football player that never sees the field but always blames coach for that, or the parent of an unathletic MV football player, that never sniffs the field. Let it go my man, you’re beginning to embarrass yourself.
February 11th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Bergman and Babcock are great for the MV football program. They have created a consistent winner where boys become men. The success of the program has created great pride and support from the student body and community. My2cents you appear to be the rotten apple that either hates MV from the outside or never bought in to the program and ended up having a terrible experience. The swag board brings the team together and I think Bergman’s knowledge can clearly be seen by the continued success at MV
February 11th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I completely agree with “Former MV Player.” As another former Mv player, I can confidently say that Coach Bergman has had a very positive effect on my life. For anyone that thinks he is not passionate about his players, you are wrong. The only reason why Bergman and Babcock would dislike a player, is because that player either; Didn’t give effort during practice or games or was disrespectful to them or the team. “My2Cents” I am almost positive that you were one of those players, which is shame.
February 11th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
First off…”Big Mike” is a pissed off dad. Taking shots on the coaches for your son quiting, that
Makes no sense!
Second… “My2cents” if everyone said who they really were then half of the stuff wouldn’t be said. Why don’t you go tell Bergman and Babcock how you feel to their face instead of hiding behind your computer screen. Getting back at the coaches via IBABUZZ…tough boy.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Bergman and Babcock are complete losers. Why do they only have 30 kids on varsity? Answer: They cannot stand them. Parents are so sick of Bergman, his $500 football fees – yet you cannot talk to him or have him email you back. Are all parents calling to complain about playing time? Really? How about, we don’t understand something? Who do they call then. Craig tells every family at orientation to call him and gives them his number, then never returns calls. BABCOCK is a complete and utter joke. Fat Pat the Water Rat. I think he takes over Wadkins motorized cart this year as he seems to get fatter each year. What does he coach other than disention? Arrogant jerk. Surprised he doesn’t get canned at the Asphalt Company. Treats parents like crap also, protected by Bergman. Yes, the author of the swag board. Putting kids against kids, this year going all out and putting a back up QB’s dad on the board because they don’t like him. Low class scum. Loser.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Enough already about Coach Bergman, Babcock and the MV Program. My husband and I don’t always agree with every decision the coaching staff makes but so what. We know that they have the boys’ best interest at heart and we trust them with our son. Anytime we have a question or concern we address Bergman face to face and he is always receptive. In my opinion, some MV parents are whiney and complain way too much. Bergman has made it clear time and time again that his primary concern is helping usher our boys into manhood. We need to spend more time supporting their efforts in a positive way instead of venting publicly.
February 11th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Swag Board to motivate kids? what a freakin joke!
Enough of your Bulls**t Babcock and your 5 year old cartoon-player crayons and glue cutouts poking fun of kids on your swag board… Grow up!
Hiding behind Knute Rocke shows your true colors…#49
Really Babcock? Really?
February 11th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Crusaders, you are also someone angry at the MV program for unknown reason. 3 Bergman’s main goal is to teach the boys how to become men. These boys are in high school now and in a couple years will be living on their own. When they have a problem at work are they gonna have mom or dad call for them..NOOO. I have learned from my MV experience that if you have a problem with the coaches you address it your self. Thats the main reason they dont like to deal with parents. I know a plenty of parent who have strong ties with Bergman for what he has done with their sons. I am a former player who played for both of these men, i have great respect for what they have done for me and how they have made me prepared to move on. Bergman knows the game inside and out and is a fantastic coach. As far as the swag board goes.. players from the team help construct it. Babcock has done a great deal for me and to sit hear and listen to a bunch of people complain and bitch about them makes me sick. None of you have played for them, so go on and keep complaining from the outside but until you are actually associated with them please shut up and hold back your ignorant comments.
February 11th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I think it is clear that people who know these two coaches personally or have played for them respect them deeply and people who do not know them personally choose to dislike them because something negative has happended to them. How can you say that he does not care about his players when all these former players come on here and defend him.
February 11th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
I know from firsthand experience that Coach Bergman and Coach Babcock only want the best for their players. I also know that everyone that is whining about them, probably did not play for them, and you wouldn’t know. As for the whole swag board thing, I can tell you all, that I was on the Swag board for 24 straight weeks throughout my varsity career, and every time I saw myself on it, it motivated me to work even harder. My name is Dane Turner,I played receiver and safety for MV last year and I am not a “tough boy” for revealing my identity, I just have full support for my two coaches.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
I am yet another former MV football player. My name is Riker McClaskey and i played TE for the Mustangs the past 2 years, and im not a “tough boy” for reviling my name. I know first hand how much these two men cared me and wanted the best for me. I was another star on the Swag Board making it almost every week. I learned not to make the same mistake twice and it made me a better player as a whole. These two men have had a big impact on my life for the better. I have incredible respect for these two men.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Since the original story is about 3 young men earning walk on invitations to a couple of great schools and football programs, I would like to say CONGRATULATIONS to them!
I’m a DVAL fan, so I had a chance to see Jones play for YV, and he almost beat Alhambra all by himself. I think he had 2 defensive TD’s and a 50 yard TD catch on offense. Considering the YV QB was a soph, he had a pretty good year to make 1st team DVAL receiver.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Wow, what a thread! Ever since Survivor’s been off, I’ve needed some entertainment, thanks.
Hey Dane- congrats on your scholarship to UC Davis and for supporting your coaches.
February 11th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Hey, someone said Bergy was a football genius or something. Said he has “knowledge”. Ask Craig to give the definition of defense. In the Bergman defense dictionary is says DEFENSE: 1. Please score really quick because I want the ball back to run my sacred offense 2. I have 3 players playing D1 [Wake, CAL, USC] but could never stop anyone 3. My 35 points will beat your 33. Sad. I think they ran 4 different defenses this year. They’d spin the swag board dial and whatever number it landed on, they would have that many kids up front.
Tough Boys out on the Streets – Pete Townshend
February 11th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
This thread has some rythm to it.
Tough Boys – Pete Townshend
Boys to Men, ABC, BVD – bbDevoe
Jeremiah was a Bullfrogforever – 3 Dog Babcock
February 11th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Good one Crusaders-
“Jeremiah was a Bullfrogforever – 3 Dog Babcock”
You may not understand a single word I say, but I raise my glass of wine to you. Cheers
February 12th, 2011 at 12:29 am
After reading all 74 posts…
Nimrods: “My2cents” , “Crusaders” , and “Gridiron man”
Men with Balls: Dane Turner and Riker McClaskey
Men with Valid Points: “Former MV Player”, “EBALsupporter”
February 12th, 2011 at 1:55 am
congrats to all those grizzlies. i never doubted their talent, just hope more of them get into the cream of the crop as you so stated my Papa.
March 26th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Ever since Rob Stockberger quit coaching MV, they have not been the same caliber of football team. NCS Champs in 1981-83, and 1987. Played for the NCS title in 1986 too, but lost to DLS.
The 87′ Mustangs were the last truly powerful East Bay team that could challenge the Spartans, besides the 1991 Pittsburg Pirates.
April 13th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
FYI Kyle Egan has a preferred walk on at Oregon State
May 11th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Good, bad, or indifferent, all Coaches have their specific system/schemes. Is it common for most HS coaches to have a program in place to deal with recruitment of their players? It is very rare for kids to go on to the D1 level. I don’t think a coach would go out of his way to not have players recruited or try to prevent a player from a scholarship.
Despite the fact that coaches are focused on trying to win as many games and they can, I think without question they genuinely care for their players. Most won’t play d1,d2, or d3 after HS. Players don’t get scholarships to play ball simply because they don’t project out at the next level given their size, speed and talent at this time. This doesn’t mean that they never will play D1 it just means they don’t want to give them a scholarship based on their needs and projections.
In general, D1 colleges are looking for BLUE CHIP players,meaning big fast and talented. Being small 150lbs or so, short 5’7 or so and average speed 4.6 or so really doesn’t project well on the potential side of major college football. Exposure was not the reason Giles was not picked up at the D1 level, he attended several camps. In addtion, in Giles situation, I am certain that some coaches questioned why would a player attend so many different high schools. Even if it isn’t true, it gives the illusion of if I don’t get my way I will quit, transfer, or at a minimum pout and blame others. Congrats to the players on their walk on opportunities and good luck to Giles. All is not lost, many players go on to Jr. Colleges and recieve scholarships.