- East Bay Prep Corner
Mack’s Brooks is preferred walk-on at Washington
By Jimmy Durkin
Tuesday, April 19th, 2011 at 5:25 pm in East Bay Football.
McClymonds High linebacker Travon Brooks has accepted an offer to be a preferred walk-on at the University of Washington, Warriors coach Curtis McCauley said.
Brooks, a 6-foot-2, 230-pounder, was a first-team Oakland Athletic League All-City pick for Mack this year after transfering from Deer Valley. He was a big part of a defense that led the East Bay by allowing just 158.8 yards per game.
Brooks was also a recipient of a $1,000 scholarship from the East Bay Football Officials Assocation. McCauley said Brooks is a 4.0 GPA student.
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April 19th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Congrads to Travon Brooks on a job well done in and out of the classroom young man but please Coach Mac don’t get on the blogs popping your collar again about you got another kid a scholarship because if this kids has a 4.0 that means he came from Deer Valley with Grades and although that walking on to Washington is a great thing that doesn’t count as a scholarship Coach Mac but good job anyway!
April 19th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Wolfman,
You have serious issues.
Let it go. Its not your fault.
April 19th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Coach mac u say u won 5 championships but u know those are really jus a league title how many sub .500 teams made the oal playoffs n those 5 runs u made? Skyline was 2-8 a couple of years ago n made the oal playoffs. U keep mention ur pitt win cuz those oal victories r hollow. Question coach mac how would u rank these sections sacjoaquin ncs ccs oal top to bottom? Tell me coach mac how can a 2-8 team qualify for ur section playoff wow i wonder if that would happen in those other sections. Congrats on ur league title last year.
April 19th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Billjohnson: If Mack was in the NCS they would have made the playoffs. Mack beat Pitt and Pitt made the playoffs.
April 19th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Wolf Man/ Bill Johnson:
Let’s just keep it real, if it wasn’t for the great program that Coach Carter and now Coach Mac have put together there would be no scholarships. Just look at Fremont and Skyline and Castlemont and Oakland High last year they have done nothing. Keep up the good work Coach Mac!
April 19th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Sure they would have probably the favorite to win d4 but will never know. Oal section playoff is meaningless bunch of rematches come to ncs and flex ur muscles.tmobile yes they beat pitt so did alota teams plus pitt was 1 n done. Wats mack got this year in non league?
April 19th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Wolfman SHUT UP already quit hating so much you’re so hung up on a scholarship blah blah blah…. BUT YOU DONT SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE HERE! YOU need to get off the blogs
Congratulations to you Travon wish the best of luck keep up the good work!
Coach Mac congratulations to you too one more from you school mentoring, supporting….AWESOME!
April 19th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Just out of curiosity… this is an article about a hard working kid heading to college.
So why are there people getting into a heated debate about something that has nothing to do with this article?
Great job Travon. Best of luck to you.
April 19th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Ding, Ding, Ding Round #5 Wolf Man you sound real ignorant with all your negative remarks & comments let Travon, Coach Mac & The Mack Program have their moment in the SUN without you getting on the blogs running your mouth. Knock Out & down for the 8 count.
April 20th, 2011 at 12:42 am
Thank all you guys, we all worked hard to get each other to where we are now coaches players family and fans. we know what we were and still are capable of. we underdogs making our way up. GO WARRIORS/HUSKIES!
April 20th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Congratulations Travon Brooks. I seen your highlight tape on youtube and you are a fine player. Good luck down in Washington with Mr. Peters.
April 20th, 2011 at 8:38 am
good job brooks and to Mac program i dont care who they play long as kids are getting scholarships for college I’ll support that program Mac keep doing your thing. I dont see Mval ebal putting them in college like this.
April 20th, 2011 at 9:03 am
I just wanted to say that this is a shame and I know some of you guys can do better. I know much of this is taking shot at Coach Mac, but I want to remind you guys that the players read this blog as well. All they see is a bunch of grown men arguing over non-sense. Is this what they have to look forward to as they age? I do not think the students will see this and see encouragement, appreciation, and support. However, that is what we all should be doing for all kids.
April 20th, 2011 at 9:08 am
@ Banjo. RIGHT!!!!! Dang! Congrats to Brooks. And PLEASE Coach Mac, if you’re reading, don’t respond to this ignorance of some of these bloggers. Mack’s record speaks for itself. These student/athletes are doing their thing!
April 20th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Bill Johnson:
What is your problem with the Mack coaches? Coach Carter and now Coach Mac put these young men in the position to get kids scholarships year after year! They have put more kids in college than any other school in the area including DLS. No other coaches are doing that on the level that Carter and Mac has.
April 20th, 2011 at 9:49 am
T-Mobile 44, Everybody knows the OAL produces the best athletes in the Bay Area. Any good coach can get those athletes exposure to colleges.
April 20th, 2011 at 10:11 am
ManDown:
Any coach???? What happened at Fremont, Oakland High, Castlemont and Skyline?
April 20th, 2011 at 10:31 am
I Told You, I’m talking about Mack’s players.
April 20th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I just want to tell Travon congrats I had the pleasure of being his first position coach (OL) at Deer Valley HS in Antioch when he was a Freshman when I first saw him he was a raw young man with talent just learning the game of football but with a lot of promise. Now 4 years later he turns out to be a Pac-12 student athlete just shows what hard work & determination will get you best of luck young man you deserve it
April 20th, 2011 at 11:20 am
TMobile my problem with coach mac is he beat a sub .500 team n his weak silver bowl come to ncs and play n a real playoff. If the oal has the best athletes how come they dont have the best teams? How come the oal struggles n non league?
April 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Fremont was 6-6, not sub-.500
April 20th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Didnt fremont lose to liberty? Liberty probably could make it to the silver bowl thats how weak that playoff is. Since coach mac wont answer maybe the rest of u will how would u rank these sections top to bottom sacjoaquin ncs ccs oal? Joe besides fremont n mack can tell me wat the other 2 teams records were that made oal playoffs?
April 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
FIRST OFF I WANT TO THANK THE ALL MIGHTY GOD. FOR THE KNOWLEDGE, COURAGE, THE ABILITY AND STRENGTH AND STRUGGLE THAT HE HAS GIVEN MY SON TO GET WHERE HE HIS TODAY. THANKS TO MACK FOR EXCEPTING TRAVON BROOKS INTO YOU SCHOOL HOUSE, FORMALLY MY HOME SCHOOL TOO. BIG THANKS TO COACH CURTIS,COACH POOH AND ALL THE OTHER COACHES THAT GOT TRAVON BROOKS TO THIS POINT. ALL THE COACHES ARE GREAT. NOW MY SON HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME WHAT EVER HE WANTS. SON DO THE BEST YOU CAN DO AND YOU WILL SUCCEED IN WHAT EVER YOU PUT YOUR MIND TO. YOU ARE A AWESOME YOUNG MAN IN SCHOOL AND OUT. IT ALL STARTS IN THE HOME FIRST. LOVE MOM
April 20th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Since Coach Mac won’t answer??? REALLY? Who are you BillJohnson?? A blogger??!! Since I’m blogging today too, I wouldn’t rank any of the sections because I really don’t care. I like to see teams win and student-athletes succeed regardless of what league or who they play. Never met Coach Mac, but he was the coach of an undefeated team with several players going to the next level.
Who knows if everybody keeps blogging about Mack, you’ll help them recruit even more players!
April 20th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
just maybe wat kind of section has a 2-8 team qualify for playoffs? Ncs may get a 4-6 team from time 2 time but there fielding a 16 team brackett. Coach mac good luck this season cant wait to c wat the oal does outside of league this year
April 20th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Ms Brooks – Congratulations to you too! Can’t wait to hear all the great things your son will do.
We need more Moms/Dads/Coaches like you WHO CARE! Its all about the kids and good parents/coaches helping them get to the next level.
Allstar Coach – WELL SAID!
BillJohnson – Your problem with coach Mac is YOUR PROBLEM! KEEP IT THAT WAY and SHUT UP
April 20th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I usually stay out of these conversations when they turn like this, but the NCS had a 1-9 team earn an No. 6 seed last year while a 3-7 team was a No. 2 seed. And that came in the division that McClymonds, by enrollment, would’ve competed in.
http://cifncs.org/sports/football/files/RESULTS/2010/FB5BRACKET10.pdf
April 20th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Billjohnson – please read post 26. All you talk about is the OAL playoff being weak compared to the NCS playoffs. We beat three NCS playoff teams. Pittsburg, Ferndale, Salesian, as well as McKinleyville who beat us last season and was a NCS playoff team as well. I completed my schedule last year in February when Pittsburg was ranked #2 in Northern California behind De lasalle. My job is to beat who we play I don’t care who it is. We did just that. If you have any problems with the OAL not being in the NCS, I suggest you give the OAL Commissioner Michael Moore a call to voice your concerns. I work for the OAL and it is what it is. Thanks Jimmy for setting the record straight.
I have a week 2 opening if any section in Northern California has an opening. We will travel.
April 20th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Hey Ms.Brooks,
Kudos to you and your son! Keep encouraging him, he will do just fine both in the classroom and the field at UW. Go Travon and go Dawgs!
April 20th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Bill Johnson
What happened you didn’t get your facts straight? Coach Mac will continue to coach his teams win the OAL and take on any NCS schools. “He will travel”.
April 20th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Bill Johnson
1. NCS
2. CCS
3. OAL
5. SacJoaciam
April 20th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Coach Mac:
Is it true that most of your kids on had to get academic waivers just to be. Also didn’t four of your players transfer out of your school after the season was over?
How come you are not talking about that?
April 20th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
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April 20th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Coach Mac
How would your teams do against the EBAL?
April 20th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Durkin know one i mean know one cares bout d5 but i guess ur rite but im pretty sure coach mac would petition up and play d4 with those athletes right coach? Coach mac u know oal playoffs r a joke refresh my memory i know u beat fremont who was the other juggernaut u played n da playoffs? I told u, if oal has the best athletes y dont they have the top teams n the eastbay? i’ll b waiting for u to tell me
April 20th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Durkin wen was the last time u guys had 2 oal teams ranked in ur top 15 eastbay? Wats the oal record vs teams from other sections the last 5yrs?
April 20th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Mr. Johnson
You said Fremont lost to Liberty, this was untrue. Fremont lost to CV (6-6), Chowchilla (9-4) and Dear Vally (7-4).
April 20th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Bill Johnson:
Two words, Alonzo Carter. Remember all the of the Berkeley and Mack teams he coached. Now that Coach Mac has taken over he is doing the same thing. 12-0!
April 20th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Bill Johnson:
Mack 12-0 They didn’t loose… So in my opinion they were one of the best teams in the east bay.
April 20th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Ding, Ding, Ding, Round #6 Irom Mike going in with a Wild Swing for the Knock Out! Mr. Bill Johnson you have been a OAL Hater for a long time so you really need 2 understand the dynamics of OAL & it’s League, Yes we have a Silver Bowl 2 crown a section champion & NO we are not scared to play any other teams in the NCS because you really need 2 get your facts right because it’s the other way around! Alot of the NCS teams don’t schedule OAL teams because they claim they have nothing to gain if they win(because of NCS Seedings for playoffs) and everything to lose if they lose (Like Pittsburg) Pittsburg scheduled Mack this year as a Cup Cake game for them to get a break in there schedule and ended up losing just like in 05 Granada Hs (a Div 3 NCS playoff team) scheduled Mack and lost to them also because I know for a fact when Carter was at Mack & Beam was at Skyline NCS teams didn’t really want to play there teams & just 3 years ago an arrogant Pinole Valley Team lost to Mack also so you really should stop hating on the league because it’s not there fault that they put more D-1 Athletes out more than any of leagues in the NCS do your Homework Mr. Johnson. Iron Mike TKO’s Bill Johnson in round #6. LMAO
April 20th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Also let’s get back to what this Blog is about Congrads to Travon you and Marcus go up to UW and represent the Mack House
April 20th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
i told u yeah coach carter got it done at mack but wat happen n ncs playoffs were ur playin n a real playoff 1 win n 3 trips! Mack was good last year never said they werent but how good i dont know cuz there best win was against a 5-6 pitt team they barely beat late n the game with a bomb where was the safety at galli u had to know it was coming its not like the oal is known for timing routes! Joe had liberty confused wit cv but u get my point. Its good my friends will jus have to wait til dis fall n c wat the oal does outside of league. Over\under is 2 that the oal will have atleast 2 teams over .500 at that point of the season. I’ll take the under!
April 20th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
iron mike ncs teams r scared huh? I guess carter was scared wen he dropped jb n 09 by not playing castlemont. Nope he dropped dem cuz the oal dont grt respect couldnt help his cause for playoffs or im i wrong carter was scared too? Talkn bout granada 05 the bottom of the ebal well wat happen to mack wen they played bellarmine or valley christian? Beam got it done he beat ebal wcal teams those teams were for real cuz they played them n beat them.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:08 am
Bill Johnson:
Four out of Five Pre-Oal games were NCS teams. Mack won them all. Please can I hear you say that Coach Mac is a good coach who got it done.
April 21st, 2011 at 12:33 am
Coach mac career record is 17-16 n 3 seasons as head coach not sure if he has coach longer than that but i know of 3 yrs. I consider that average at best not gettin it done he’s no beam. Beam played the top teams in the bay there no comparision.
April 21st, 2011 at 7:18 am
Ding, Dingn Round #7- like I said Bill Johnson most NCS schools want play OAL schools because they claim they don’t points in their divisions for playoffs seeding so they would rather not touch OAL schools. So going back to 05 San Leandro, Bishop O’Dowd, Hawyard High none of those top HAAL schools would play Carters Mack team so instead he had to go play teams in LA and by the way he beat the LA City Champions Crenshaw High wich had 8 Div 1 players on it plus when he lost to Valley Christian and Bellarmine that was his 03 team that had 10 sophomores on it and 2 years later went 11-1 and all those teams dropped Mack off there schedule so do your Homework and give Coach Mac his credit casue he beat 3 NCS Teams this year including Salesians & Ferndale (Both Playoffs Team and Pitt won there league) so give the OAL some credit and the only reason Carter had to drop Castelmont at Berk Hs was the same reason because he respected the OAL and he loved playing OAL schools but he wasn’t getting any points in the Div 1 seedings for playing Castlemont although Castelmont was a very good team and they could beat all the NCS teams that they played that year, Ding, Ding, that’s the bell and the end of round #7 do we need round #8
April 21st, 2011 at 7:30 am
Bill Johnson
Make sure you read #42 twice… Great post “Iron Mike”!
April 21st, 2011 at 11:09 am
The OAL needs to be apart of NCS and we will see who rises and who falls.
April 21st, 2011 at 11:23 am
peace be still, I thought this was about a student moving forward in life. Why so much commotion. The coaches did and are doing a great job for these young men. Congratulation again to my son Travon and my cousin Marcus. I wish the best for both of you, you guys came from a great family. Can everybody just get along. Washington here they come!
April 21st, 2011 at 1:44 pm
So Coach Mac is saying that he would become a legend if he was in Alonzo Carter’s shoe’s at Berkeley High?
April 21st, 2011 at 2:05 pm
COACH MAC, HOW COME YOU WON’T ANSWER MY QUESTION?
READ #32
April 21st, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Red&White -
The answer to your first question is the OAL doesn’t have accademic waivers. If you fall below a 2.0 you are ineligible. I think we may be one of the only sections in California with this rule inacted fall of 2009 by the policy commitee which are all of the schools principals. All of our players but 1 was eligible to participate this year.
The answer to your second question is no one transferred out of McClymonds that I know of. Most of our athletes are running track,playing baseball or doing power cleans with me.
April 21st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
EBfootball
I don’t compare myself to other coaches. Most of them all over the country are my friends. We compete against each other for the fun of the game. Alonzo Carter gave me a job as his Defensive Coordinator in 2005. Today if I needed a job I know that I could go to CCC and coach there. Coaching is a fraternity not a hate-ter-nity! I will continue assist and encourage young men to go to college and hopefully will win some games.
April 21st, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Hey Coach Mac I am sure u dont mind responding to this crap, but you really dont need to. U are doing what u are suppose to at Mack, getting players to college to make their lives better. Keep doing that. Bill J is doing what he kn ows how to do. Just talk through a computer
April 21st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
But you said if you coached at a school with 3500 kids you might be a legend. Carter did for three years and had one playoff win. Hardly legendary. (zo is a legendary recruiter and scholarship getter tho. not an x’s o’s guy). That’s saying you’re a better coach.
April 21st, 2011 at 7:16 pm
COACH MAC, WEREN’T YOU THE HEAD COACH AT OAKLAND HIGH?
YOU WERE O-20. HOW CAN YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS COACH BEAM?
April 21st, 2011 at 7:43 pm
Red&white
Beam and I are the only coaches in OAL history(1938 to present) to have 12-0 seasons. I coached at Oakland high one year. As a player at Oakland high we had a 10-0 season and 2 silver bowl titles. Other than that I never could put myself in the same conversation as beam. He is and will be the greatest coach in OAL history. What are you talking about?
April 21st, 2011 at 8:10 pm
I guess wen coach mac was at o high he didnt get those transfers from deer valley livermore n lowell. Economy must really b tuff these kids familys had to move back to west oakland. Damn coach how did u do it winning the silver bowl man that was a tuff road the 2 teams u beat were a combined 10-12 now thats wat i call a playoff!
April 21st, 2011 at 8:14 pm
knock off the livermore transfer talk. peters spent one year at livermore. he started at mack, went to livermore his soph. year, then went back to mack. he’s a mack kid!
April 21st, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Oal fanatic he did all that transfering without losing a year of eligability? So he went to mack then family moved to livermore then they decide to move back to da west is that how it went down? Wats the transfer rule n the oal? Wat bout the kid from deer valley family didnt like antioch rather live n west oakland huh?
April 21st, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I AGREE WITH BILL. COACH MACK HOW DID YOU PETERS GET HIS ELIGIBILITY AFTER MAKING ALL OF THOSES SCHOOL CHANGES?
WHY IS THE OAL ALLOWING ALL OF THESE ILLEGAL TRANSFERS?
WHAT KIND OF SEASON WOULD YOU HAVE IF THOSE KIDS DIDN’T TRANSFER? MAYBE 0-10.
April 21st, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Coach mac we finally agree beam is the best to walk the sidelines n the oal! He played the top ranked teams n the bay an won more than he lost also dominated the oal.
April 21st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Ding, Ding, Round #8-now Bill Johnson since you feel you know so much about the OAL & constantly comparing them to the other NCS school do you really think on a year that OAL Schools was able to play other schools with the same enrollment in a NCS playoff format that they wouldn’t do better?? Man please if that’s the case when Carter was the Coach going 11-1 (01 & 05) they would have been 12-0 also so stop making it seem like the NCS other than DeLaSalle is unbeatable and they are Div 1 and none of the OAL school are Div 1 so you really need to give Coach Mac his props for his 12-0 season and trust me Beam had several transfers athletes also Mr Red & White!! You might be one yourself because we all know in the 90′s it was about Sklyine but in the 2000′s it’s been about the Mack House!! & stop Hating on Marcuse Peters because he was born and raised in West Oakland so that one year in livermore he didn’t play No sports so you guys shouldn’t speak on things you don’t know about!!!
April 21st, 2011 at 9:59 pm
iron mike. MARCUS PETERS IS A GOOD PLAYER AND HE DESERVES EVERYTHING THAT IS IN FRNONT OF HIM.
LET’S NOT BE FOOLISH, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE OAL TURNS THE BLIND EYE WHEN IT COMES TO ELIGIBILITY.
COACH MAC YOU WOULD BE O-10 WITHOUT THOSE TRANSFERS.
April 21st, 2011 at 10:15 pm
iron mike y wouldnt mack win d5 ncs i dont even know wat teams play that weak shit. Well i guess the rest of the oal is d2 ncs but weve seen how they do in non league they wouldnt b able to compete ask jb he got a rude awaking in his 1st playoff game wit arroyo. It even took a sorry san leandro team for carter to get a win n ncs cuz we knew he wasnt beating the ebal. Fremont might b d3 n d3 is loaded would b tuff cant c them winning more than 1 game n ncs. Tell me iron mike besides beatn crenshaw wats the best win macks had in the 2000′s? Please dont say wen carter beat beam cuz we know he had all those pittsburg boys
April 21st, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Ding, Ding, Ding Round #9-Come on Bill Johnson what Pittsburg Boys did Mack have in 2001 when they whooped your Great Sklyine program Coached by Beam so stop hating the only person on that team from Pitt was the QB that played for Mack as a 10th grader so give me a Break Bill Johnson that was a 11-1 team also that Beat both St. Mary’s & Piedmont both weak NCS playoff teams that they put 50 points on?? Don’t get me started on some of the Cupcake teams in the NCS!! Down goes Frazier!!!
April 21st, 2011 at 11:15 pm
wow iron mike they beat st.mrys n piedmont r those the best wins is that wat ur sayin? well refresh my memory did mack beat any other ebal teams besides granada? I know skyline has. jus the qb was from pittsburg huh?
April 22nd, 2011 at 11:12 am
lol post #63
Ask JB what I took a young team with only 12 Sr down to Rancho 34 degree weather in the storm. That was the only rude awaking I got. Don’t get me wrong Rancho was a good team but don’t forget they played a great game in NCS championship game. But by far we had a great season ending the season on a five game winning streak. And it’s sad that we had to go that far with a better record then a few teams in D2 playoffs…
P.S Also a few of those Skyline teams had a hand full of transfers. I no for sure that 1998-1999 team off top!!
DON PRIDE:
PROPER PREPARATION PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE..
April 22nd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
The OAL is the is pitiful. All of the coaches are sub-par that is the reason why most of the OAL schools loose when they play well coached teams.
April 22nd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
JB Don
I think that was the 12-0 team was it?
April 22nd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Ding, Ding, Ding Round #10!! Man Bill Johnson you refuse to give any other school in the OAL but Sklyline some credit and that’s crazy because like JB Don says it was no secret that Skyline had transfer players, plus many, many players that did not live in there damn district! It was no secret that half of there players belonged at Castelmont and Fremont not to mention Frank Summers which lived in Mack’s district in West Oakland so stop hating on Coach Mac’s & any of Carter’s teams cause they had some transfer players because every damn school has transfers players including the NCS!! Also in 2001 know other NCS school wanted to step up to the plate and play Mack because they knew they had a good team but JB Don can explain to you even better because he’s been on both sides of the fence how the NCS teams don’t get points in the playoffs seedings so they rather stay away from OAL schools that don’t match there enrollment so before you go running your mouth do your damn homework! Ding, Ding Iron Mike wins on a 10th round TKO
April 22nd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Iron Mike – is… Duh WINNING!
April 22nd, 2011 at 8:11 pm
The coaching in the OAL is sub-par that’s why Oakland teams loose outside of their league.
April 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 am
OAL needs better coaches.
April 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 am
Since Beam left, the level of coaching has gone way down.
April 23rd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Red & White it’s pretty obvious that you went to sklyine because the bottom line Beam & Sklyine had its moment in the 90′s and put up a pretty impressive record but in the 2000′s the Mack House took over winning 5 Silver Bowls plus 6 League titles and for the record Beam last game he coached he lost in the Silver Bowl to a pretty good Oakland Tech Football Team that featured Marshawn Lynch, Virdell Larkins & Josh Johnson (all three 3 Div 1 Prospects) so the Beam era ended with 2 Silver Bowl losses in 3 years cause
Mack Beat Sklyine also in 2001! No disrespect to Coach Beam but the past is the past and it’s time for somebody else to wear the crown because Sklyine have not went to the Silver Bowl since 2004 Buddy! So take off your Red & White and try on some Orange & Black!! Iron Mike with a Gut Shot to Red & White, Ding, Ding Round Over!!
April 23rd, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Iron Mike, What’s the difference between winning a league title and winning the silver bowl? Aren’t they the same thing?
When Beam was at skyline he dominated the OAL. He was in the silver bowl every year and lost how many?
April 24th, 2011 at 12:05 am
Winning league is regular season. Silver Bowl is a section title. He won 11 Silver Bowls and league titles from 88-03
April 24th, 2011 at 1:39 am
I must admit 11 out of 15 Silver Bowls is reall impressive but know one is taking credit away from Coach Beam as far as Silver Bowls Beam is 1st, Carter is 2nd & Ike Kieffer is 3rd all three were pretty good Coaches & represented the OAL pretty well but it’s time to talk about the present & right now Mack went 12-0 making 5 Silver Bowls in the 2000′s so Give McClymonds High School its credit & stop mentioning Sklyine in the same breath because it’s been over 4 years since Sklyine has even touch the Silver Bowl grass & they lost that day to Mack of course!! So like I said earlier Red &White you need some new colors
April 24th, 2011 at 9:27 am
I agree with you that even Skyline has lost its greatness due to the fact that the coaching has not been the same since Beam left.
Alonzo Carter never beat teams in the NCS and Coach Beam did.
April 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am
So who is the next great coach in the OAL? Who will win games and dominate like Carter and Beam? It seem every year its a new team that comes stacked with good players and that usually tells you who will win it. Castlemont had its moment, Fremont had one, Mack has been on and off, and even Tech. Who will it be this year?
April 24th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
The next great coach in the OAL is the next great recruiter.
April 24th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
If the EBAL coaches coached the OAL teams with all of those athletes then the OAL would be one of the top leagues in the nation.
April 24th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Red&White, Not so true. They still have to get kids to show up in the off-season and get kids to keep grades up all year long. That can be very tough for any coach to deal with. In the EBAL, those coaches don’t deal with the same type of issues that coaches do on this side of the hill. The kids over here are a little less motivated than the ones down there. In my opinion.
April 24th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
“ManDown” what are you saying? The EBAL coaches have to get their kids to show up in the off-season and make sure they keep there grades up.
April 24th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Coach Beam always made sure that his kids were eligible.
April 24th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
The EBAL coaches get different types of kids that if you give them a schedule, most of the kids will do what they are told. Over here its not the same.
April 24th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
I completely agree.. lets not B.S and say oh yeah it can happen because it really doesnt Post #82
April 24th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
I am ashamed of the comments made by both “Mandown” and “C.Sparks”.
What are you really saying that minorities kids can’t do their homework and follow a schedule? That is nonsense!
What the league need is good coaches like Beam who held kids accountable.
April 24th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
It seems we’ve come to the question of organization because that’s really what we’re talking about. The Oakland schools are overall less stable in a litany of senses than many on the other side of the tunnel.
Look at what happened to Oakland High this season. Look at how Fremont’s season shifted when grade came in last year (I know their coaches mentioned something like that happening this year, but saw nothing specific). I went to Castlemont-Rancho Cotate this year and the difference was stark. Rancho had, more coaches and a sideline populated with people helping out (stats, trainers, et. al.). Skyline had that level of organization, but it seems to have taken a hit post-Beam (note the really unbelievable Oakland loss this season). I’m not sure about Mack through the coaching changes, but maybe Mr. McCauley can bring that sort or presence.
I’d say Berkeley has a similar problem, though on not quite as large a scale. There is a culture of chaos and disorganization. And without a certain kind of coach, that seeps into the team. Now a lot of EBAL seem to have a more stable culture surrounding the school, and that seems to benefit football in many ways.
April 24th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Im not saying that these kids over here CAN”T do there homework or follow a schedule. I’m saying that most WON”T do that. Where do you live, in the clouds? Lets keep it real, you can hold a kid accountable all you want but when most of your kids decide that the off-season isn’t that important to them and they don’t show up, what are you going to do as a coach? Bench your whole team for the year? I know for a fact some teams in this area get most of there players in August and even September. Not the case on the other side of the hill. Those kids are working hard from December/January until game one.
I don’t care if Bob Ladouseur was a coach. He would have a tough time getting kids to practice and wanting to work hard.
April 24th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
okay lets be real its not A “minority issue my friend” is a CLASS issue.. Your using Beams Ideology from a decaded ago which was good.. he had his kids doing well.. that was years ago.. how many coaches since him came ? Hundreds.. Simple fact.. Kids in richer areas have better tolerance.. vs inncer city kids.. the one bad thing about areas like san ramon, danville.. is that the parents get in the coaches ear.. about how “great” there kid is… so Everyone has there trials and tribulations. Not just inncer city coaches
April 24th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
That would point to the fact that there are certain advantages for certain schools. I agree that it would be tougher in certain areas to get kids to spend their entire off season working out. Not impossible, but the advantages clearly are with schools where the kids have more stable environments. Not all kids from EBAL schools are willing to work hard all off season, but since the schools are all D1, they get enough kids who are dedicated that the others will either have to follow suit or else find something else to do with their time. It is much tougher in a small school environment where the kids might not be as motivated.
April 24th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Lets get one thing straight….Beam did it years ago….and he would do it now. He inspired winners and gave the kids a sense of family and pride. Kids from all over Oakland wanted to go to Skyline…he didn’t have to recruit. The program was handed to him by Coach Fardella in a healthy state….and he took it to another level. Beam took rough kids and gave them structure and pride. His players gave him o seasons, ran track or him and he made sure they did the work in the classroon as well. You don’t send that many kids to DI in that time, and not make sure they are committed to hard work and good grades.
April 25th, 2011 at 12:54 am
Thank you Triton8. Being from Oakland it bothers me to hear this kind of comments.
Hey “ManDown” and “C.Sparks” this type of thinking is scary.
Are you saying that Black and Mexican kids are barbarians?
Let’s keep it real this kids need leadership!
April 25th, 2011 at 2:43 am
Post 93 as YOU CLEARLY SEE IN POST 88.. THIS IS NOT A RACIAL ISSUE.. its a CLASS issue… .. I can’t believe you are trying to Deny the obvious.. haha Be real go to a De La salle practice and go to “any’ team in a lower class. maybe 2 out of the whole section might be working as hard as some of the great programs….. a lot of “individuals” probably spend time in the gym, working hard in the class… by not with there teams… like the CAL HIGHS, DE la salles, SERRA, BeLLERMINE.. BE REAL!, and stop throwing me that “omg anything is possible junk” until we get better education better parenting, better community and we all contribute i dont see this problem going away.. some kids like Mr. Brooks Fights trough these adversities but not all are like him.
April 25th, 2011 at 2:44 am
excuse me i ment Post 91
April 25th, 2011 at 8:08 am
C.Sparks
Do you remember Coach Beam from Skyline High school? He coached during the height of the “Cocaine Wars” in Oakland when there were a lot of distractions. He still was able to run a good program keep kids motivated and beat the EBAL teams with as you say lower class kids.
April 25th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Coach BEAM is a great psychologist
he got the best athletes in oakland
to put down the dope and pick up a football
most coaches would have wrote them off
they oal always has the best talent with no discipline
AND ITS HARD 2 COACH KIDS THAT R RAISED BY FOOLISH PARENTS
April 25th, 2011 at 9:33 am
OR-NO-PARENTS-AT-ALL
April 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am
C.Sparks/ManDown.
Read #95
April 25th, 2011 at 11:28 am
How many coaches can do what Beam did? Obviously not many because coaches keep coming and going. Did I ever say that Blacks and Mexicans are barbarians? Come on man, you sound stupid right now and need to get a grip on yourself because you can’t handle this topic. You are in the clouds if you think everything will change if you bring in this great coach that will hold everyone accountable. Its crap! Why do you think Beam left? He could’ve stayed if he wanted but everything was changing and he made an exit.
Skyline, Tech, O-High, Castlemont, and Fremont all have over 1,000 kids in each school and they seem to only be able to field a 25-30 man roster without JV’s (this past year) What does that say about the kids over here? They don’t want to put in the hard work that goes with sports.
April 25th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
The majority of the student population are Blacks and Mexican. This is an open form so I am telling it like it is.
You keep running away from the topic. Stop blaming the kids. THEY ARE KIDS AND THEY NEED LEADERSHIP. I was only responding to “Red & White” saying that EBAL coaches are better.
April 25th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
ManDown are you saying that if the whole coaching staff from DLS took over at Skyline nothing would change? I didn’t think so…
April 25th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
The only reason it would make a difference is because everyone knows who they are already. Take any good coach who doesn’t have the “Fame” of Lad, Beam, or Carter and you will see what Im talking about. Barnes was supposed to be the next great OAL coach and what happened? He bolted because no commitment from kids. Come on man, there have been some good coaches that have tried to do it after Beam and Carter but it didn’t work out. Not all of the problems are with “LEADERSHIP” jack!
April 25th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Beam left to become the AD at Laney and coach at a higher level. He also turned down a number of position coaching jobs in the Pac10 during his tenure at Skyline. His departure had more to do with his career than with the kids changing. He could build the same program right now with these kids that you think don’t want to give everything in the off season. He understands how to communicate and what makes inner city kids tick. He knows how to motivate and push these kids farther than even they think that they can go. Bottom line to me……Beam’s success had nothing to do with the era which he coached HS football in.
April 25th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
So what does that say about Coach Mac? Is he a good coah or what? He’s from the OAL and he also recruits I heard? How does he manage to get his kids to come to McClymonds because this article is about Travon Brooks a transfer student from Deer Valley right? Let’s see how he stacks up next year with just Mack Kids?
April 25th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Beam also had a Athletic PE class. I think Carter did to. Huge help in the off-season if you can flunk kids for not partcipating in your off-season program.
April 25th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
PLZ- Dont keep talking about blacks and mexicans
poor white people do the same thing as poor blacks and Mexicans===
LETS LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD MAKE EVERYONE ELIGIBLE
SEE HOW MANY STATE CHAMPIONSHIP DLS HAS THEN
AFTER ALL YOU DONT HAVE TO BE SMART TO PLAY SPORTS
And while ur at it can we return kicks out of the endzone
April 25th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Coach Mac had to of had a lot of help from Alonzo Carter’s success. There is know way he could of done it on his own. Carter made Mack what it is today.
April 25th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Beam didn’t have to flunk kids in his PE class for not participating in his off season workouts. The players policed themselves on the hill. Beam created a family atmosphere up there and the players knew if you didn’t work hard….you weren’t playing. He was deep too, so kids knew if they didn’t go all out, there was a kid behind him very nearly as good.
AS far as recruiting…..winning recruits by itself. If kids are good players and they have intentions of playing at the next level….they know where the looks are gonna come from. In the early 90′s, if you were an elite player and lived in West Oakland….you knew that you were gonna have to take a bus to Skyline to get college looks. Coaches don’t have to tell you that. DLS benefits rom the same thing. Coaches build programs and the programs draw the kids. Every basketball player in the East BAy wanted to go to St Joes in the 90′s because they watched Kidd win 2 state titles? The formula is not hard to understand. Carter built it…and they came, after Beam? Coach Mac is building something similar right now it seems. Coach Tenorio has built the same thing in Alameda. Kids aren’t stupid….they know where to go…..and if they don’t, their meddling parents will do the research for them!!!
April 25th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
ManDown/Perkin/C.Sparks read #111
April 25th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Did you have to say meddling? ROFL!
April 26th, 2011 at 6:44 am
You’re right Triton8 Athletic hour PE had nothing to do with it. Wasn’t a factor at all. Beam’s kids would have worked out 5 days a week in Feb. & Mar. & hold themselves totally accountable. Just like at Cal High where they have Weightroom class all day its no factor. Or at Monte Vista where there Head Football coach’s teaching title is Weightroom its absolutely no factor. They’d have the same results with out it. Come on.
April 26th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Can’t speak for other programs and don’t know everything about all programs like you, but the fact that you were leading into an integrity issue about Beam holding his football players hostage with grades for PE if they didn’t participate in off season workouts was a joke…..come on.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Think about. Read all these blogs & think about it. These guys aren’t too far off saying that kids on this side of the hill don’t have great 11 month a year work ethics. Some kids do but a lot struggle to committ. Its a fact. Now I think that Coach Beam was great. No doubt about it. Awesome coach. He is the only school in Oakland to have enrollment over 2100 though kind of odd that hasn’t been mentioned. He like Cal High, Monte Vista, DLS, Foothill, had a great situation. For 3 years 5 days a week 9 months out of the year instead of a kid dressing up for PE & playing Volleyball, Hoops ect. they could weight or speed train as part of a class isn’t a huge factor. No Coach Richmond-Hayward is getting any where near that kind of commitment Sep-June. No way.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:13 am
I agree with you PERKIN.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Perkin – I think you’re getting to the main crux of the issue. Well organized schools can put in weight programs, offer them as PE alternatives. Skyline is probably tops in the OAL in terms of how it’s run, stability, that sort of stuff. You had a coach who could correctly use that.
I doubt it’s a matter of the kids, as much as the culture. Simply put, the coach needs to build a culture that encourages this and holds kids accountable. Then they need the resources to make sure the kids can to all that extra lifting training.
April 26th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
I agree Joe!
“If you build it….they will come!”
April 26th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
…..also Perkin……2 things:
Most of the athletes at Skyline were multi-sport athletes. Skyline, unlike some schools did not require kids to pick one sport. Most played baseball, basketball, wrestled or ran track. So a last period or 9 months o weight liting usually didn’t occer like you think.
Also, OAL enrollment is not the same as other school districts “enrollments”. Most OAL schools have an “enrollment” and they have a daily attendance. The latter is sometimes about half of the former! Your 2100 is not a reality. At one time in the 90′s I remember reading that Mack had an enrollment of over 1200 and a daily attendance of about 400. That doesn’t happen “over the hill”, does it?
April 27th, 2011 at 5:59 am
so does the coach make the player
or does the players make the coach
alot of great natural athletes on those teams
did those coaches win when thier teams werent stacked
there is a difference between a great football mind and a great football team
April 27th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Great question!
I don’t have the answer, but I have an opinion:
I think a coach can structure and build a solid program. I also think a coach can be a difference maker in terms of keeping his program competitive year in and year out. But he needs great athletes to have great teams. You put both of these together and you have a powerhouse. Beam & Fardella had teams lke this with Ray Sanders & Brian Johnson etc in the 80s. Beam also had teams like this in the 90s with Ellis and Fisher etc. A great program builder’s program will be able to sustain itself in the dry years also. An example of this in an abstract way is the DLS program. Not a real good example, because that program is not normal and is off the charts in every measurable way. Lad is gonna have a great team in the years when he doesn’t have the best talent. That is just a great testiment to him and his staff. They can win with average talent. Tenorio has built something similar, but its still in its early stages.
With this said…..I still go back to the theory that winning recruits itself. If the kids see that your program is winning and sending kids to college…..they will come on their own.
April 27th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
There’s an interesting chart showing former local preps that have declared for the draft. Can’t wait to see who makes the cut on Thursday.
April 27th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Triton,
Good points. I’ll bet some money that coach B at Cal will develop the same type of “program” you reference in your post. Certainly, see that football program developing well in the next few years..Encinal, Grant and Folsom are football programs that consistenty perform well year after year… To second your statement, “buy in” from the athletes, parents and admin are a key to running successful academic and athletic programs. Certainly, there are many other factors that play into the equation, however, if you can at least get parents and athletes behind it you are off to a good start.
April 28th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Cal has been a solid program for about the past 5 or 6 years. Coach B did a great job with the kids last season and had the best season in the history of the school, but Coach S had already put a lot of the pieces in place prior to that. Cal is just lucky to have had 2 outstanding coaches, as well as some darn good assistants, some of whom have been there since Coach S arrived. I hope they are able to sustain this level of success and if last year is any indication, Cal is in good hands with Coach B and his staff.
April 28th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
What the Heck has this Blog turned into?? I thought we were talking about Mack’s Brooks going to Washington?? I thought we were suppose to be talking about Coach Mac and the McClymonds Program not Coach Beam who inherited Fardella’s program at Skyline! He didn’t build his program from bottom like Carter did! Neither did Coach Mack because Culberson had just won the Silver Bowl 2 years before Coach Mac came to McClymonds so I guess you’re wrong Red &White Beam and Coach Mac do have something in common they both inherited good programs and they both had several transfer players! Also Coach Mac before you go popping your collar about your 12-0 record I did some research and you had some of the same coaches on your staff that coached the 2001 McClymonds 11-1 Silver Bowl Championship team, so is the Head Coach or is it the system that you stole from Carter who won 3 Silver Bowls before you?? Take that Coach Mac! Go Pirates and Go NCS (We don’t have no damn Silver Bowl)
April 28th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
What has this blog turned into? Looks like it turned into a bitter dude who just likes to hate on anything from Oakland if you ask me? You’re right, Beam didn’t do anything in the time he was there….he was handed everything. Get a clue……
April 28th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
If you take out the students that transfered into Mack, the would’ve gone 2-8. Oh by the way Culberson was a horrible coach. He inherited coach Carter’s 11-1 team
April 28th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
If a coach is at a school more that four years then it becomes his program. Beam was at Skyline for many years. That program had his imprint on it.
April 29th, 2011 at 6:26 am
I think it becomes their program by the 3rd year at the latest 2nd year usually. When their are no players left coached by the previous coach or a small majority left then its the new guys show. Talking OAL 2 years after Beam left you got Evans team. The year right after pretty much gravey train. The 2nd year for E Culb was his team. Talking NCS the 2nd year for Minor at St. Mary’s was his team said it all along that 2009 St. Mary’s team was handed to him. 2007 team at Alameda High was Gravey train from the pretvious era.
April 29th, 2011 at 6:58 am
The program becomes the new head coach’s on the day he accepts the job…all of this crud about “somebody” else’s team is lame, and a way for a coach to not accept the most negative things about taking over.
Coach accepts the job, it is his program from that day forward, wins, losses and ties.
No exceptions
April 29th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Killer D, I dont think you understand the posts. Yeah its the new coaches team but every body likes a little gravy on their mash potatoes. Minor had 3 servings. That doesnt mean he aint a good coach. It just means that we are still waiting…
April 29th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Gravy on mash potatoes was funny.
I know but I get sick and tired of other coaches saying that JOE COACH won only because of the Last coach’s players or Lost because of the last coach’s players.
Total BS
April 29th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Really again with puuting Bellici with the upper level area coaches. 2 years ago, his first, was a total calamity including losing Washington twice. They brought in Kravitz, that is thereason for Cal’s success. Kravitz is a proven winner can we please list him as a program builder?
April 29th, 2011 at 8:59 am
I give Kravitz his props I don’t think there any coincidence to their success & him coaching there. But it was also Coach B’s choice to involve him in the football program so ultimately credit the man for recognizing a good coach & hiring him. I think the same of Nickerson at O’dowd just worse. I credit all the success to hiring the O coordinator from YV who has influenced the D also but it wouldn’t be possible if Nickerson didn’t hire him. Point being they may not be great coaches but they hire the right people. SO ultimately you have to credit them. I think the same about Alameda High in the Hennessey regime from 2000-06.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:11 am
“Oh by the way Culberson was a horrible coach. He inherited coach Carter’s 11-1 team.”
For the record red&white no I didnt, the year before I got there Mack went 9-2-1, and we still won the Silver Bowl despite a tough preseason. Now the second year was rough but I guess it would be when your playing with a bunch of 10th graders but that’s no excuse. After going thru what I did I see where I messed up and could have done things better so I’m better for it. Oh and by the way where is it that you coach?
April 29th, 2011 at 9:19 am
E_Culb
Stop making excuses you almost ruined the program at MACK. That was Carter’s team that won.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:40 am
E_Culb
The last year you were at Mack which was your team you went 2-8 with one over you victories being an 0-10 DeAnza which you only won by a touchdown. You went 0-5 in the OAL.
Oh by the way where do you coach.
April 29th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Mediocre,
“Really again with puuting Bellici with the upper level area coaches.” Where in my post did I mention that?? My point was that coach B and Cal are a good example of a program that appears to be going in the right direction and building consistency…The top coaches at all levels surround themselves with great assistants…that’s a given!
April 29th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
The ultimate “inheriting a great program” was Calahan getting Gruden’s team and then getting ass handed to him by THE REAL COACH in the SB!
April 29th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
I agree total gravey train by Calahan. Now you’re getting the picture. Same with Bum Philips in Dallas from Parcells that I can think of lately.
April 29th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
E_Culb I guess you agree with me.
Beam and Carter have to go down as the best coaches in the history of the OAL. Combined they have got more kids in college scholarships in the whole state including Long Beach Poly and Carson.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
There have been some awesome coaches to come through the OAL, Beam himself gives alot of credit to the guy he replaced. And you have to understand during those 60′s and 70′s era people went the JC route first before going D1. I gotta imagine schools like USC heard about OJ before he went to City. But for the common era I would say yeah.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Coach Mac where you at?? Are you hidding because you went 0-10 & you were 0-5 in the OAL so where do you stand in this conversation of Great OAL Coaches Mr 12-0?? I did more research on Max Preps and I noticed one thing in common on Carters 2001 Team, Culberson 2007 and your 2010 team the Offensive Coaches! So like I said is it The Head Coach or is the same offensive system that help McClymonds win all these Silver Bowls Coach Mack. Also I noticed there was a Peters kid on the 2007 that got a scholarship to Sac St is that Marcus Peters brother? I also noticed that you have a Coach with the last name Peters that Coached on all 5 of the Silver Bowl Teams team so is that there dad coaching with you Coach Mac? If so that makes my point valid it’s not you it’s the system! Because I repeat at Oakland High you were 0-10 because the following year after you left Coach Gumbs finished tied for 2nd place with those same Oakland High Kids and he defeated you while you were coaching at Castlemont, so is it the coaching or is it the system Coach Mac? Also Beam did a Great Job at Skyline but let’s not ignore the fact that Sklyine was 10-0 in 1985 with Fardella so all I’m saying is Beam didn’t build that program from stratch Red & White
April 29th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Coach Mac where you at?? Are you hidding because you went 0-10 & finished dead last when you were the Head Coach at Oakland High so were do you stand in this conversation of Great OAL Coaches Mr. 12-0? Even Vanilla Ice had one Hit record so are you a one hit wonder or can you at least repeat and make it back to the Silver Bowl like Carter and Beam did? Also I did some research on Max Preps and I noticed one thing in common on Carters 2001 Team, Culberson 2007 Team, and your 2010 12-0 team, THE OFFENSIVE COACHES!! So like I aske “Is it the Head Coach”? or is it the same offensive system that helped McClymonds win all these Silver Bowls Coach Mac? I also noticed there was a Peters kid on the 2007 team that got a scholarship to Sac St is that Marcus Peters brother? Also I noticed that you have a Coach with the last name Peters that Coached on all three of those Silver Bowl Teams so is that their Dad coaching with you Coach Mac? If so that makes my point valid it’s not just you it’s the system because I repeat when you were at Oakland Hs you were 0-10 abd the following year after you left Coach Gumbs finished tied for 2nd place and made the playoffs playing pretty much the same teams you played and he defeated you with those same Oakland High players when you were the Def Cor at Castlemont, so is it the coaching or is it the system Coach Mac? So before you declare yourself great you will have to do better that 17-16 and win more than one Silver Bowl. Also Beam did a Great Job in the 90′s at Sklyine but let’s not ignore the fact that Sklyine was 10-0 in 1985 with Fardella so all I’m saying is Beam didn’t build that program from stratch Red & White! Build something from stratch like one of NCS Best Joe Tonerio-Encinal or Brian Hamilton from Concord High
April 29th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Ding, Ding Round #11- now wait a miute Wolf Man I’m starting to agree with Trinton 8 are you bitter with Coach Mac and his program because you’re taking this thing way to personal. Eric Culberson was a Good young Coach that did a good job as a player, Def Cor & Head Coach he played in the Silver Bowl & Coach Mac did the same thing so you need to ease up with you’re attack on Coach Mac because Coach Mac & JB Don beat Encinal while they were coaching at Castelmont so give the OAL some credit cause you’re right Encinal has a good program and we already know Mack beat NCS Teams Pittsburg, Salesian & Fernadale. All three made the playoffs-Ding, Ding Round over!!
April 29th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Encinal and Concord were defintely built rom scratch,and Beam had Fardella’s blueprint….but i you don’t think he took it to the next level, you’re nuts. All you had to do was be in the Skyline PE office at lunch to meet every major college head coach worth anything at that time. Beam got kids rides! Bottom line!
Wolfman…..why do you hate on Mack so much? With all the bad stuff that’s going on in parts of Oakland…..why is it so hard to get behind something like Mack’s football team. All the negative….whats wrong with a little positivity? West Oakland has the East Bay Warriors….something else to be proud of. The coach went undefeated? Why not give him credit? Why does that piss you off? You need to go kick your dog or something!!!!! Who is your team and why do you hate Mack so much????
April 29th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Wolf Man
What is your Head Coaching record?
How many championships have you won?
Offense wins games…defense wins championships. I am the head coach/defensive coordinator who also coaches linebackers. When Carter won the championships at mack I was the d cordinator/linebacker coach for those teams as well as the d coordinator/linebacker coach for castlemont. In 2008 and 2010 I coached the #1 defense in northern California yielding 8 points a game as well as 158 yards per game. Carter is a great coach but he had nothing to do with the success of this team. He coaches at CCC. Oh yea if you read the paper today your concerns about the OAL joining the NCS has been answers. REGIONAL PLAYOFFS!!!! No more not scheduling OAL teams because it screws up seeding in the NCS. The winner of the OAL is in the playoffs.
I’ve never said that I was great. Let me enjoy my 12-0 season. Don’t hate on me just simply apply for a head coaching job go 12-0 then post it on the blog and tell me the experiance.
April 30th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Not necessarily tru Coach Mac. The OAl is not automatically in the play-offs. IN Northern California there are I think 26 Section champions. Out of those 26 winniers only 10 will get chosen to play in a one game play-off. SO the OAL will still have to hava a pretty impressive season to be chosen as one of those 10 probably on Par for last years season.
And no doubt you will get much better games. You will now be like an NCS, CCS, or SJS team scheduling your pre-season. You get beat by a team that is in the same play-off brackett lets say NCS D-4 that would be your state brackett then you’re out of the equation for state more then likely. Good for the OAL now we’ll see what time it is.
April 30th, 2011 at 8:08 am
Honestly coach that was last year. Thats over done nobody can take that away from you but at this point in time in the year its about next year. I don’t know any coaches or programs that are still loving life from last year. You must not be too fired up about this year.
April 30th, 2011 at 8:31 am
This thread is granite solid evidence that the 2011 high school football coaching changes off-season carousel has been very, very BORING
April 30th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Perkin
I agree. We are working harder than ever right now to compete this season.
May 1st, 2011 at 7:32 am
“COACH MAC” I just read #147
I Guess your name can be in the same sentence as Beam, Carter and Ladouceur.
PLEASE…
May 1st, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Look Trinton 8 know one is hating on McClyomds Hs or West Oakland I’m just trying to get Coach Mac to speak the truth and stop over hyping himself as this Great Coach because he only has 1 championsip and 4 kids going Div 1. Carter, Ladoucer and Beam would average at least 4 to 5 Div 1 kids every year and have won multiple championships so yeah you beat Pitt this year but let’s see you do it again year after year because at 17-16 you’re not proven yet so this has nothing to do with hating on McClymonds High School because I think they have had one of the best Football and Basketball programs over the years, I read the paper!
May 1st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
wolf man
im trying to remember what post coach mac said he was this great coach, curt you and pooh keep up the good work at mack, all these non coaching haters have no clue the hard work coaches put in
e culb
are u gettin back n2 coaching again hope so
May 1st, 2011 at 10:54 pm
OMG Wolfman you are still at this S**T… Dude get a life
Oh wait you don’t have a life but hating on Coach Mac
May 2nd, 2011 at 9:29 am
Coach Mac
This is directed to you! There is an old saying, “Put up or shut up”.
There is a new season coming up. Let’s see how good your coaching skills are going to be for this up coming season.
You had one good season with a host of transfers. What transfer students do you have coming this year?
The spot light is on YOUR program now.
May 2nd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
It’s pretty obvious there are people who don’t like Coach Mac, and their disingenuous couching of their dislike in challenges of coaching skill is REALLY getting boring. At least #157 is moving closer towards how they really feel about Coach Mac as a person (“This is directed to you!”).
I would like to offer some insight as to why some have such venom towards Coach Mac. I have had one professional interaction (as a coach) with Coach Mac. When it behooved him to present himself as a professional with class, he taunted myself and the other professionals present. He came off as sneaky and coy in making the unnecessary statements. In the end, he behaved like an adolescent who didn’t know any better. (When he was the HC at MC)
I hold no grudge. In fact, I commend him and his undefeated season. Any coach knows how difficult it is to go undefeated even when you have everything else in your favor. It’s just when a list goes for 150+ postings, I am sure everybody appreciates some subtext (of Red&white and Wolf man).
May 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 am
“Al Roads”
My comments were not meant to be has nothing to do with any dislike for Coach Mac. Coach Mac made quite a few claims on this blog (see #147) and I am only challenging him to put up or shut up.
I do not know Coach Mac or have had any personal contact with him.
I am just calling Coach Mac out.
We all know that there is not anyone who has come close to what coach Beam has done in the OAL.
May 3rd, 2011 at 7:13 am
#159 and counting…and it’s not personal? Hmm…
May 3rd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Word is that De La Salle QB Bart Houston has committed to Wisconsin.
May 3rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
He did today and it’s a great fit for him. I think the system works for him and vice versa. Big congrats to Bart.
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
I am one of the biggest Beam backers there is….but lets get real…..every school has transfers and so did he! It’s just like a program having haters(this blog should know a thing or two about that), if everyone is hating on these blogs and out in the open on your program, then you know you’ve made it! Same thing with transfers…if your program is elite, transfers will come on their own and you know your program has made it. That’s how it works! Beam didn’t have to go all over and recruit…his program recruited for itself. All good programs draw kids from out of their area. DLS doesn’t get transfers because they get them from other areas after the 8th grade going into 9th grade.
So stop all the stupid talk about “transfers”!!! Who cares? Unless of course a coach is personally poaching from other programs…..then we have another thing entirely!!!
May 3rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Triton8
When a coach has more than five transfers who are seniors, that dose make a difference.
All of the kids that have scholarships from Mack this year were transfers.
Coach Mac knows this but for some reason he chooses not to talk about it. Hmm
May 4th, 2011 at 1:15 am
last time i checked marcus peters only went to school in livermore his 10th grade when he wasnt living with his dad and didnt play when he was there, so as far as im concerned he is a mack kid, played there 3 years. and like triton8 says who cares who has transfers. hell in beams hay day majority of the players didnt live in skyline district, most of the really good players came from the oakland dynamites youth football organization. u talk transfers on the fall team of 94 billy cockerham transfered from clayton valley and after the season was over he transfered back, transfers are part of high school football in california, im extremely happy that these young men are gettin an opportunity to get a college education and thats the most important thing here
so to all the coaches out there keep working hard and all these non coaching haters ta heck wit yall [trying to keep it clean on here jimmy]
May 4th, 2011 at 8:05 am
ALL OF THE KIDS THAT HAVE SCHOLARSHIPS FROM MACK ARE TRANSFER STUDENTS.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:41 am
SO….
Red&White what is your point? Or are you JUST like Wolfman both need to get a life.
Dude give it up… quit hatting!!
May 4th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Thank you R&W. You have now established that many of Mack’s good players were transfers. Thank you for that. You may now stop saying it.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Its time to move the focus to next year. We all know what happened with Mack and who cares? It is what it is and nothing can change that.
May 4th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Ok I will move on but there’s just one more thing, There has to be a level playing field. Skyline dose not recruit their players and it is not right for Coach Mac to get the glory of having a 12-0 season based on not following the rules. It is a fact that the OAL has turned a blind eye on what went on last year at MACK. How did they allow this to happen?
The only good thing that came out of this is these students are going to college!
May 4th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Coach Mac is quiet and speechless now because sometimes the truth hurts and although I’m not a Big Skline fan neither I have to agree with Red&White but trust me Just Wanna Say nobody is hating on Coach Mac i’m just speeking the facts and you’re right Bhsfan everybody has transfers
May 4th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Coach Mac,
Stay above this blog. You cant win. The haters on this blog check back hourly just waiting to pounce on anything you say, you’re better than them. And realize, there’s only 4 or 5 haters. There are more people on this blog supporting you than being negative.
Wolfman, the only truth that hurts should be your inability to support a MAN working with at risk young men, and getting them to college. Give us all ONE example how you have helped society…just one, go ahead. We’ll see who’s quiet now.
I bet you dont answer the question, coward.
May 4th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
EarHustler – WELL SAID!!
May 4th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
EarHustler,
I was quiet for a few days but you have forced me comment on your backwoods remark. What dose “at risk” mean?
Why would you describe Mack young men as “at risk”?
I may not be a fan of Coach Mac but I do live in Oakland and I am proud of my city.
It is people like you who have that backwoods way of thinking that continues to put a negative mark on our kids and schools.
May 4th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
red&white aka skyline supporter, get off it what ever was done at mack this year is done plus they have nothing on skyline during beam era, many transfers and most of the kids didnt even live close to skyline district.
real talk the kids do most of the recruiting, they know each other from playing youth football and/or other sports with or against each other lets stop the hater and encourage/congraduate these young men for they hard work
May 4th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
anybody that lives in oakland is at risk, i live in oakland too, born and raised, the truth is the truth, of course not all areas are bad, its some really nice areas but lets b real west oakland isnt the most safe places in the city, yes west oakland has had so much needed upgrades that are very very nice but yeah they at risk for alot of diff things, thats y im so happy for these young men that are going to college
May 4th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
@174.
Read the stats below, and I think you would agree that many youths in Oakland are at risk.
Not sure how I am putting a negative mark on Oakland kids and schools, I wrote to Wolfman, “Give us all ONE example how you have helped society…just one, go ahead.”
Meaning, either be a part of the solution, or dont criticize.
I have supported Coach Mac on these blogs before. Please dont play the “people like you” card on me. I am law enforcement, and I see the effects of crime on our youth. I dont pity Oakland, I pray for Oakland.
As of January 2006, Highland Hospital in Oakland treated 233 youth ages 14-30 for gunshots,
stab wounds or assaults over a one year period. (Alameda County Medical Center)
Among African American males
aged 15-34 years of age,
homicide was the leading cause
of death in Alameda County.
There were a total of 122 deaths related to domestic violence in Oakland, from 2003-2008, an average of 24 deaths each year. A child was present in over half the
incidents (55%) that included reports of who was at the scene.
There were 1,766 youth on probation in Oakland as of June, 2005. (Alameda County Probation Department)
Oakland youth in juvenile hall make up almost half (46%) of all Alameda County youth detainees. (Alameda County Probation
Department)
In 2002—03, 9% of 9th graders dropped out of school and the four year derived drop out rate
was 31% for OUSD. (California Dept. of Education)
In 2005, 20% of 9th Grade OUSD students reporting bringing a weapon to school during the
previous 12 months and only12% felt very safe at school. (CA Healthy Kids Survey)
There were 2,422 chronic truants and 2,700 suspensions for a violent incident in the OUSD
during the 2005-06 school year. (OUSD)
Should I keep going?
May 4th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
@ Earhustler
Interesting and alarming facts. Where did you get them from? What is your source? I would be interested in looking at those in depth.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
EarHustler,
Law Enforcement??? That explains everything.
May 4th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
@177
I guess everyone living below foothill is at risk. I would be curious to see how many violent crimes happened above foothill since 2006.
May 5th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
#179
Tell me why that explains everything? Let me guess, you lump law enforcement all together, right? Because of the bad acts of few, all get judged? Hmmm, sounds to me like you are doing the very same thing you accuse me of doing. Replace “kids and schools” with “law enforcement.”
To use your logic, it is people like you who have that backwoods way of thinking that continues to put a negative mark on law enforcement. Hello pot, this is the kettle talking.
May 5th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
EarHustler #172
Well said! Getting kids into College is one of the great duties that a hs coach can achieve. Whether it is on scholarship or just into a College doesn’t really matter.
If you can’t see that some kids are “at risk” then you need to take the blinders off? Kids from these areas do not enjoy some of the things that most other hs students do. To make it in areas like this, a kid has to be better that your average kid at most everything.
….and what does “below Foothill” have to do with anything?
May 5th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Earhustler,
I see your point and I must admit there is some truth to what you are saying. I do have a question for you. How many of your co-workers live in Oakland. Do you know any Law Enforcement Officers who attend any OAL games? Wouldn’t be nice to see some of OPD in force without their uniforms supporting these kids? I have lived in Oakland all my life and watched first hand all of the bad things that OPD. In my opinion they are a major part of the reason that most citizens of Oakland hate the police. Tell one of you co-workers to come out to a game.
May 5th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Triton8,
You know exactly who lives in the hills and who live below foothill. We are talking about Blacks and Mexicans and a few Pacific Islanders.
There is a fear amongst a certain group that passes a negative judgement minorities.
This whole conversation started with me saying that Beam treated all of us with respect and we respected him. He held all of us accountable and never misled us.
I was one of those “at risk” kid who loved living in East Oakland and I am proud to say that I still live here. By choice!!!
So when I see a police officer on this blog categorizing minorities as “at risk” it rubs me the wrong way.
May 5th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
R&W,,
You are entitled to your opinion. But that’s all you have, an opinion. My statements are based on facts and numbers.
Why is it so bad to call a young person “at risk.”
I didn’t specify an ethnicity, I specified OAKLAND.
If you were at risk, and you credit Beam for helping you become the man you are today, that’s awesome. This blog consists of haters on Coach Mac for helping kids get to college. Don’t make this into something it really isn’t.
BTW,
You can write OPD asking them for some community support, I am sure they will respond. Or you can join community forums, or help with Park and Rec, or Coach. Or do you want to blog more about it? DO something, dont ask someone to do something you can damn well do yourself.
OUT.
May 5th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Earhustler,
Point taken..
May 6th, 2011 at 12:30 am
No winner in this arguement……two different points, but both are very valid I think.
May 10th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
What happen with the Alameda job it’s still posted in the paper ?
DON PRIDE !!!
PROPER PREPARATION PREVENTS POOR PERFORMANCE..
June 12th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Ike Keiffer was the greatest coach in the OAL as far as putting kids in to colleges.
What he did for the young men of Oakland, Ca. was outstanding.
Not only did he coach in the OAL. Also Merritt Jr. College, Univ of Washington and many others.
He should be in the Oakland Athletic Hall of Fame for his work………!!!!!!!
April 20th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
What ever happend to Brooks. Did he make the team?
April 21st, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Still trying to find out about Brooks made the football team at Washington.