- East Bay Prep Corner
NCS baseball seeding
By Stephanie Hammon
Sunday, May 22nd, 2011 at 10:50 am in Baseball.
Click below for all the NCS baseball pairings.
DIVISION I
Tuesday’s first round
No. 9 Deer Valley (15-9) at No. 8 Heritage (18-6), 5 p.m.
No. 12 College Park (18-6) at No. 5 Granada (16-8), 5 p.m.
No. 7 Newark Memorial (14-10) at No. 10 Castro Valley (15-10), 5 p.m.
No. 11 Irvington (12-10) at No. 6 Monte Vista (17-7), 5 p.m.
Wednesday’s first round
No. 13 Mission San Jose (15-9) at No. 3 De La Salle (17-7), 5 p.m.
No. 15 Berkeley (10-14) at No. 2 James Logan (20-4), 5 p.m.
No. 14 Bishop O’Dowd (13-9-2) at No. 3 California (15-9), 5 p.m.
Quarterfinals
Heritage/Deer Valley winner vs. No. 1 San Ramon Valley, TBA
DIVISION II
Tuesday’s first round
No. 9 Las Lomas (13-9-1) at No. 8 Arroyo (14-9-1), 5 p.m.
No. 13 Concord (13-10-1) at No. 4 Campolindo (15-8-1), 5 p.m.
No. 15 Montgomery (12-11) at No. 2 Clayton Valley (19-3-2), 5 p.m.
No. 14 Redwood (15-10) at No. 3 Petaluma (18-5-1), 5 p.m.
Wednesday’s first round
No. 16 Maria Carrillo (13-12) at No. 1 Alameda (23-1), 5 p.m.
No. 12 Northgate (13-9-2) at No. 5 Casa Grande (16-6), 5 p.m.
No. 10 Dougherty Valley (17-7) at No. 7 Rancho Cotate (16-7-2), 5 p.m.
No. 6 Washington (16-8) at No. 11 Cardinal Newman (21-5), 5 p.m.
DIVISION III
Tuesday’s first round
No. 13 Eureka (16-8) vs. No. 4 Sonoma Valley (15-8) at Bud Cloney Fied, Eureka, 5 p.m.
No. 15 Hercules (8-9-1) at No. 2 Miramonte (17-7), 5 p.m.
No. 7 Alhambra (14-10) at No. 10 Encinal (15-10), 5 p.m.
No. 14 Kennedy-Fremont (9-14) at No. 3 Acalanes (14-10), 5 p.m.
Wednesday’s first round
No. 8 El Cerrito (16-7) at No. 9 Moreau Catholic (18-6), 5 p.m.
No. 12 Novato (13-12) vs. No. 5 Albany (18-6) at Memorial Field, 5 p.m.
No. 11 Tamalpais (13-13) vs. No. 6 Sir Francis Drake (17-9) at Albert Park, San Rafael, 7:30 p.m.
Quarterfinals
El Cerrito/Moreau Catholic winner at No. 1 San Marin (20-5), TBA
DIVISION IV
Tuesday’s first round
No. 13 Cloverdale (11-9) vs. No. 4 Berean Christian (14-9) at Diablo Valley College, 5 p.m.
No. 10 Fort Bragg (15-8) at No. 7 Kelseyville (15-7), 5 p.m.
No. 11 Lick Wilmerding (15-10) at No. 6 Mckinleyville (15-8), 5 p.m.
Wednesday’s first round
No. 9 Salesian (11-11) at No. 8 El Molino (11-12), 5 p.m.
No. 12 St. Helena (14-11) at No. 5 St. Mary’s (12-11), 5 p.m.
No. 14 Middletown (13-10) at No. 3 Arcata (16-8) at Arcata Ball Park, 7 p.m.
Quarterfinals
El Molino/Salesian winner at No. 1 Marin Catholic (20-4), Saturday, 5 p.m.
Kelseyville/Fort Bragg winner at No. 2 Healdsburg (14-10), TBA
DIVISION V
Wednesday’s first round
No. 9 College Prep (11-8) at No. 8 Redwood Christian (12-11) at San Leandro Ball Park, 5 p.m.
No. 5 St. Joseph Notre Dame (15-11) at No. 12 Fremont Christian (16-7-1), 5 p.m.
No. 10 Marin Academy (8-8) at No. 7 Athenian (17-5), 5 p.m.
No. 11 Hoopa Valley (14-10) vs. No. 6 International (20-3) at Skyline College, 5 p.m.
Saturday’s quarterfinals
Redwood Christian/College Prep winner at No. 1 St. Vincent (20-5), 5 p.m.
St. Joseph Notre Dame/Fremont Christian winner vs. No. 4 Valley Christian (13-11), TBA
Athenian/Marin Academy winner at No. 2 Head-Royce (15-8), 5 p.m.
International/Hoopa Valley winner vs. No. 3 Stuart Hall (16-5) at Skyline College, 5 p.m.
DIVISION VI
Wednesday’s first round
No. 5 Rincon Valley Christian (10-8) vs. No. 4 San Francisco Waldorf (11-7-1) at Skyline College, 5 p.m.
No. 7 Anderson Valley (7-6) at No. 2 Point Arena (17-3), 5 p.m.
No. 6 Potter Valley (10-9) at No. 3 Tomales (9-6), 5 p.m.
Saturday’s semifinals
San Francisco Waldorf/Rincon Valley Christian winner at No. 1 St. Bernard Catholic (16-3), 5 p.m.
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May 22nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
The division IV brackets?
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Antioch is not eligible. 11-13 overall, losing record in their league and Division. How are they in? A mistake made by the committee?
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Maybe, the BVAL has a playoff and Antioch won?
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:41 pm
How is Castro Valley in the tournament? I thought they had too many games.
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:42 pm
how is Las Lomas a 9 seed? Finished #2 (8-4) in the second best league in the Bay Area
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Wow, stunner! CAL gets a three seed and IMO, the far easier side of the bracket. Looks like a very promising run for us, as our stellar pitching duo will give us excellent chances to get past Monte Vista and Logan, and SRV and DLS will collide before they could possibly face us. That is good for us for many reasons. A big example is if SRV reserves Carter for us, they give DLS a much higher chance of winning, and we have home advantage against them. If not, our hitting on average is slightly more promising than that of SRV. I don’t think we could have had our work cut out for us any better. And it’s our team’s reward for bringing the right attitude to every game, every inning. Now I am even more excited! Bring it on ncs!
May 22nd, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Joe Canoe, Castro Valley realized it had too many games on the schedule before playing its final league game. So it forfeited that last game to San Leandro to stay eligible.
May 22nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Antioch is 500 in league
May 22nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Not a stunner THEanon. I had them picked as #3 in my post the other night as they took 2nd place in the EBAL and finished as the hottest team in beating both SRV and DLS in the final week of the season. It looks like the committee went a little further than just looking at the CalPreps-Freeman rankings and did the right thing by slotting in the EBAL teams by how they finished in the league standings.
I don’t think the Grizz can look past BOD at all. They feature hard throwing UCLA bound ace Joe Ross, brother of A’s hurler Tyson Ross and he is one of the top pitchers in the Bay Area. I would much rather see BOD in a round 2 game after Ross pitches. Cal will need another stellar performance by Bristentine and some key hits in order to get by the Dragons. If they can get by BOD, then they can focus on the MV-Irvington winner, but SRV should be the furthest thing on their minds right now.
As for SRV, Carter is not their ace, although he is a solid pitcher. He has mostly been used in relief behind the 1-2 punch of lefties Hochstatter & Slinger.
I’m really not sure what happened with Antioch as they appear not to qualify in any of the 3 ways to get in, neeing a +.500 record either 1) overall (11-13), 2) league (4-5) or 3) vs. teams in your own division (8-10). Perhaps their record is not correct in MaxPreps and they have a couple of more victories than it shows?
It is too bad that Deer Valley has to face Heritage again in the 1st round, as it would be nice to see them both play teams from other leagues if possible. The same thing happened in football where Pitt and Heritage met as 8-9 seeds. At least that is the only D1 matchup of league teams in round 1.
May 22nd, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Castro valleys a 10?? Who’s got there hands in someone’s pocket.
May 22nd, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Arroyo beat Las Lomas head to head, so LL is behind Arroyo
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:02 pm
I’ll bet $100 that Antioch gets taken out of the D1 Bracket.
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Why is Marin Catholic a IV in baseball and a III in football? Can you petition up in football?
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
The committee’s credibility will be questioned if Antioch remains in and a correction is not made. The same with El Molino, getting in with a late Forfeit win posted before the deadline.
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Even though I as a fan am looking ahead, I am sure the Grizzlies are not. That’s why I made the last post the way I did. We will probably not have to worry about BOD any more than MV, Logan, and SRV in the long run. I saw Joe Ross’ numbers and they were impressive, though only about the same as that of Brisentine. It’s not that an upset is impossible or very unlikely, and I know very well that the Grizzlies have anything past the 25th completely out of their heads, but I just worry about Cal using the better of their two throwing guns and choking. I’m sure however that coach Ward knows what he is doing, he’s near as amazing of a coach for our school as Bellici. Four games, all requiring an equal dispersion of all the energy we Grizzlies have left. And we then will have finally done something the Grizzlies, unlike most high schools, have never to my knowledge done before, win an NCS title for boys.
As for Carter, I guess I relied to heavily on numbers, mainly ERA. I figured he pitched enough innings to be considered one of the starters for SRV and only pitched signficantly less than Hochstatter and Slinger because late in the season they were resting him for the big tournament. In that case I feel it’s an even better scenario. Ah well.
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Antioch is now gone from the bracket. Check NCS website for confirmation.
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
If Antioch does in fact get removed from the Division I bracket for a lack of qualifying record, how valid are these NCS seeds anyway? The committee is supposed to be comprised of a panel of people who have been following the seasons of each respective team in each respective division. If that is the case, how can they miss Antioch’s record? If they are simply going off of Antioch’s submitted at-large application and not the stated Maxpreps, Freeman ratings, etc. to confirm, they are not doing the vetting they should.
I say that we either go back to the open-meeting where coaches can hear the discussion amongst panel members and be there when clarification is needed OR simply rely on a rating system like Freeman to choose the teams. This veil of secrecy that now seperates the selection committee and eligible teams only hurts NCS’s credibility
May 22nd, 2011 at 5:50 pm
To ??, the committee probably assumed that it was an honor system and relied on teams to submit an accurate record. Unless Antioch did not know the eligibility rules, then their integrity is questioned.
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Triton yes MC petitioned up for football and they normally Petition up to Div II for baseball. Not sure why they dropped the petition this season. I do know that they have a new head coach.
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
With the facilities and money that they have with their rich sports history, I think D IV is a joke for them? Maybe someone forgot to file the papers??? How is a sports monster like Marin Catholic gonna raise a D IV NCS banner in their gym? That would be like a school that in the past had a Nationally recognized basketball program, now hanging up Division V NCS basketball banners???
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Ouch! I hope your not referring to St. Joe’s. I don’t think the NCS curently allows teams to petition up for basketball like they used to. If they do, most of the privates should petition up to D1 and we wuld have a pretty awesome tournament with the likes of BOD, St. Joe’s, St. Mary’s joining in with DLS and the other top public schools in any given season. I do like the fact that BOD petitions up to D1 every year for baseball and they usually are very competitive with the larger public schools.
May 22nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
??: That is scary about Antioch. Maybe the people on this blog should be picking the seedings as it looks like we have better information than they do?
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Triton8 its like these private schools pick n choose depending how good the recruiting is per sport. Y would odowd choose 2 play d1 baseball but d3 for everything else same for cardinal newman playing d2 baseball d3 football. They should make them pick a level n stick wit it 4 the entire school year.marin catholic played d4 baseball last season too. St.joes enrollment aint changed to much since the jkidd days so y aint they playin d1 anymore?
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:47 pm
is antioch in or out?
May 22nd, 2011 at 7:52 pm
The committee really screwed up the D-1 seedings. Not knowing antioch wasn’t qualified is a joke and the fix was to move Berkeley to the 15 seed, giving SRV a first round bye. How is that fair to anyone in that part of the bracket? I’m not sure what the best solution is but one other team probably should have been bumped to even out the top and bottom of the bracket. And what’s with Heritage and Deer Valley meeting in the first round? 2 teams from the same conference should never meet in the first round unless there is no other option. Newark should have been the 8th seed and Heritage the 7th.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Interesting that the D1 seeding mirrored the finish in the EBAL, with the addition of Logan. Cal gets the #3 seed even though Granada beat them twice. SRV clearly deserved #1. Just about every team has at least one exceptional pitcher, so round 1 could bring some upsets.
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Antioch had a .500 record in league
they were added to bracket by mistake… in other sports (i know football for sure) minimum qualifying record is .500, but in baseball they must have a winning record overall, in league, or in division. committee must have missed this detail at first. They were removed, Berkeley has been moved up to the 15 seed to play Logan. SRV has a first round bye
May 22nd, 2011 at 8:52 pm
I think the rules are different for basketball. In baseball and football schools can petition up, but I’m prety sure they do not allow it, for whatever reason, in basketball.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Basketball teams do NOT have the option to petition up. It doesn’t matter what division St. Joe’s, O’Dowd, Salesian, St. Mary’s or anybody wants to play in basketball, they don’t have a choice. It’s strictly by enrollment.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:22 pm
What is the rational for the inability to petition up in basketball and not the same in football and baseball? Seems a little strange.
May 22nd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Here is the language from the NCS handbook allowing schools incertain sports to petition up, but it doesn’t give a reason why.
“Schools will be allowed to change classification/division only, in the sports of baseball, football, soccer, softball, team
tennis and water polo for the purpose of post-season competition consistent with the applicable criteria.”
http://cifncs.org/sports_general_rulings/files/sptbk.pdf (page 22)
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Here’s an interesting question: how many teams played fewer than the allotted 24 games allowed before their league tourneys? Or fewer period? When a team plays 21, 22, or 23 games, that means fewer three game weeks, a lot easier on the pitching. SRV: 22 games… Hmmm… Check out the other brackets too.
It’s especially true in softball… I’ve heard of coaches not returning phone call to make up rain outs because they might be close to not qualifying! They play just enough to get in, weak!!!
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:18 pm
BTW totally agree with the other posters: Marin Catholic playing in DIV is a joke. Some years it’s 3 publics and 9 private schools… Doesnt add up!
Cardinal Newman does the right thing, their entire league is DII, so they petition up and play there, where they should be…
May 22nd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
The d4 brackets are laughable. Obviously committee members have not followed teams, games, or rankings. What in the world did Salesian do to get their seed? And St. Helena, seriously? St. Pat’s left out after blowing both those teams away in the second half of the season? And El Molino in with a losing record? Interesting.
May 22nd, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Well, St. Pat’s wasn’t eligible. They didn’t have a winning record overall (12-12), in the BSAL (7-9) or against Division IV (4-6). Can’t blame the committee for that.
May 23rd, 2011 at 8:36 am
Baseballfan I would have to agree with you!Contrary to what HSFFan states I think the committee did an injustice to St Pats.Heres why…The final criteria for selection is “at large”which takes into account the “big picture”.Significant victories,common opponents and head to head!
St Pats won 11 out of their last 12 games.
Only team to beat Albant during league.
2-0 against division 1 teams.
3 victories against division 3 teams.
Victories during 11 game stretch to end season:
Salesion 10-2 (in playoffs)
St Joes 9-1 (in playoffs)
Albany 5-4 (in playoffs)
St Helena 16-3 (in playoffs)
Oakland Tech 4-3 (Oakland section champions).
If the committees intent is to get the best teams into the playoffs then even some non-criteria facts should be considered.One such fact is two of the top players on the roster (Davis and Souza all league guys who were both in the .500 BA range) missed the 1st several games due to basketball.Another fact is they didnt have a home game during first half because of their field conditions and lastly werent they defending champions?
I realize none of the above facts fall into the statistcal part of the selection process but that is exactly why the “at large”selection exists.
It could be argued that St Pats may have been the hottest division 4 team entering the playoffs and may very well had a shot at defending their title.
On a final note why did the commitee select 16 teams in every division and reduce division 4 to 14?
Good luck to all the teams!
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:02 am
BSAL Fan..what aren’t you understanding? St. Pat’s wasn’t eligible. Regardless of the big picture. There are 3 ways to qualify. They didn’t meet any of the 3 criteria. If you can’t even do that, you don’t deserve to be in NCS
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:23 am
CRITERIA FOR AT-LARGE SELECTION
The criteria for selection of at-large teams for NCS/Les Schwab Tires Baseball Championship Series shall be a balance between:
1) Record over-all
a. League/Place/Co-champion
b. League Playoff
c. Non-league (pre-season/tournament/other)
2) Strength of Schedule
a. Record against top 6 opponents.
b. Record against teams in the same classification
1. List your most significant victories/defeats
c. Record against teams in a higher classification
1. List your most significant victories
d. Head-to-head against teams which have qualified or are being considered.
e. Record against common opponents
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 am
HSbaseballfan- There may have been only 15 teams that met the requirements in D1. NCS expanded to make money and to also allow some bubble teams that used to get shut out of the playoffs to make the playoffs. That would have been great 5 years ago when D1 had a lot more teams, but since it is the way it is, you should not disallow a team the participation because only one team gets a bye. Maybe if more teams played better they would have received the bye, SRV is the #1 seed and gets a bye….you still have to play the games.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:36 am
NCS Website:
To be accepted as a participant in the NCS/Les Schwab Tires Baseball Championships, a team shall have compiled a winning record, or a
winning record against teams in its own Division or a winning record in league. Exception: league champions gain automatic entry.
a. A winning record is defined as a team having won more games than it has lost.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 am
Maybe Jimmy can clarify.My interpretation of the NCS guideline is that there are 4 ways to get selected to the playoffs.3 automatic qualifiers to get your name in the hat.Overall winning record,division wins and league champs.The 4th way to get in is the “at large” berth with the criteria for that spot listed above.
Otherwise what is the at-large selection all about?
May 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 am
Castro Valley is an illegal entry. 25 games. A league forfeit is still a loss. Just because game is not played in league, it still counts. In non-league, it would be as if never scheduled.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 am
I don’t think a clarification from Jimmy is needed. FalconDad quoted the NCS website and it is pretty clear. You need a winning record (overall, league or in own division) to be considered as an at large team.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:38 am
Someone mentioned something about Chaz Meadows being out? What happened?
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
I’m with Prep Fan. I don’t quite understand the up roar over Castro Valley getting into the NCS. 1) they had a winning record, 2) they had a winning record in league, 3) there was a four way tie for HAAL champ but by virtue of tie breakers CV could be considered the automatic bid as league champs.
May 23rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Yeah, the four criteria are you can be a league championship and get the automatic berth. Or you can have a winning record overall, in league, or in your division. It’s pretty simple.
Also, I think not allowing the petition up in basketball is because there are state playoffs. Football and baseball don’t have state playoffs, so if you want to win a section title at a higher division, you’re allowed that opportunity. In basketball, you’d have to continue in that higher division all the way through NorCals and state, which in the end could get confusing never knowing which division in which teams are competing.
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
What then, is the at-large selection for?
May 23rd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Almost every team is an “at-large” selection. There are automatic berths (league champions). Then, every other team is an at-large selection that is eligible to be selected (but isn’t required to be) if they have a winning overall, league or division record.
May 23rd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
24 or 25 Castro valley can enjoy there 1 and done tomorrow. Severly overhyped
May 23rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
I believe Chaz Meadows hurt his pitching hand sliding into 3rd base a month ago or so. I believe he can now swing a bat but not pitch. Perhaps he can recover this week or next, otherwise it will be up to Doran and Mazza to lead the way.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Thanks for the clarification Jimmy. Since pretty much every team with a winning record of some sort (league, division, overall) is in the playoffs, I incorrectly assumed, like a few other posters, that at-large left some discretion based on the “criteria for at-large selections” to fill any remaining slots. Teams who play teams in higher divisions are certainly at a disadvantage with the current system. A winning record for division should include wins against teams in higher divisions as well.
May 23rd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
They are not going to allow wins against teams from higher divisions, but not losses. Between the 3 winning record chances you get, not a lot of great teams are going to be left out. Some good ones in tough leagues yes but the best teams will still get in.
May 23rd, 2011 at 6:17 pm
It just doesn’t make sense to me that the playoff brackets don’t match up with rankings. The at-large selection should be available to fill the brackets with teams that are ranked higher but don’t qualify according to the winning record criteria. Teams that play a more challenging schedule, improve dramatically as the season progresses… those teams are ranked higher for a reason and would make the playoffs more interesting.
May 23rd, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Maybe St. Pat’s can just pay the committee to get in, rich kids pissed that things didn’t go their way!
OK, that’s just a joke…
But if you don’t like the rules then the leagues to get together to propose a different set of criteria… They just did that with the leagues shifting.
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Is it me or does St. Pats complain about everything this year?
FIRST, it was their football team having to travel for playoffs and got their hats handed to them by ferndale lol. THEN, they cried about Jabari Bird being eligible at Salesian. NOW, they can’t go .500 3 different ways and they have a beef with that too…
May 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Any reason why stephensen didnt pitch last week for alhambra? I expect him to pitch tomorrow cant look past a young jets team but who knows they may want to save him for miramonte.
May 23rd, 2011 at 11:43 pm
I can answer this one, Dudleydawson. He was on a senior trip, along with the rest of the seniors on Alhambra’s team. He’s fine physically, and I would expect him to be on the bump tomorrow.
May 24th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
@Jimmy Durkin, you can petition up in basketball. Check out Rincon Valley Christian Girls and St. Elizabeth Boys. Both D6 teams that played in D5 bracket for NCS. RVC girls were pretty good and I have a feeling their coach wanted them to participate in the NORCAL tourney and the only way they could is by playing D5 as there is no state tourney for D6 teams. I coach Varsity basketball and I think it’s a sham that these power private schools are allowed to move up and down by NCS as Bill Johnson and Triton8 pointed out. D2 is usually the only fair bracket where any outcome can happen in any sport especially hoops.
every year the same NCS matchups…DLS vs San Ramon Valley; BOD vs ??; Salesian vs St. Mary’s; St Joes vs. ??
May 24th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Good point EBH. The D6 to D5 postseason petition is the only one I am aware of, and is there as an option solely as there is no state tourney available for the D6 teams.
May 24th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
That is correct East Bay Hoops. And like Prep Fan says, it’s because there is no Div. IV state tourney.
May 24th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Arroyo defeats Las Lomas 3-2.
May 24th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
although the “young jets” did have some struggles, they ended up winning the BSAL and it took the best pitcher in the bay area to beat them. they score alot of runs and only have 1 senior, how was this considered a “rebuilding year”
May 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Good job Dons !!One game at a time ..
May 25th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
JB”DON”
How does you team look this year?
May 25th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
See the baseball impressions blog for cal updates.
May 25th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
Never mind see here.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Still BOD 2-0 and still no-hitter. Two innings to go.
May 25th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
STILL BOD 2-0. I can’t believe this! Isn’t it about time that Ross gets tired?
May 25th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
1-2-3, it’s all on this last half inning!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 25th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Honestly, I’m stunned at how bad of luck the grizzlies have been having! Hit to right field, amazing leaping catch! Hit to center, amazing diving catch! Then the man on first steals second, and just doesn’t make it. How did BOD get a first round draft pick? How did they stay under the radar while DLS has all the private school glory? (regarding CAL’s outlook as I perceived it) I cannot imagine the plummet everybody’s self-esteem here is taking. We need to redefine what winning is or something. I’m just baffled.
May 25th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
How is O’dowd making plays bad luck? Also, why would you even steal when you are down by 2 with 2 outs in the bottom of the 7th?
May 25th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
If you thought Losing to BOD was an upset. Castro Valley could’ve done the same if Narahara(the pitcher that beat Ross) would’ve pitched. Maybe the HAAL is tougher then most think.
Go Dons!
May 25th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Great game dragons.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Sounds like Kris is coaching his butt off!!! Nice guy that really looks out for his kids! Kinda guy you root for….
May 25th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
I do and his players love him for it.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
O’Dowd has a chance to get to the finals. Vs Irvington on Sat. Irvington is not a scarry team to face. Then Semis would be Ross against Logan.
May 25th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Arroyo should have beaten Alameda when they played earlier this year. The rematch should be a good game on sat
May 25th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
It wasn’t coaching unless Kris taught Ross how to pitch. Ross was just dealing and tossed an impressive 1 hitter. The only hit for the Grizzlies was a JV call up in his only varsity at bat of the year. Brisentine looked great for Cal and the only 2 runs that BOD mustered began on a K in the dirt that eluded the catcher for a leadoff base runner, one solid single by the SS and a couple of bunts. Great pitcher’s dual but not a lot of solid hits for either team. Cal did hit the ball hard twice in the 7th with a man on, but the right and center fielders made great plays to propel BOD on to the NCS quarterfinals. Ross is a heck of a pitcher and was hitting 94 on the guns of at least 10 scouts (probably more) crowded around the backstop. THEanon, I told you this guy Ross was dangerous. He and Stephenson for Alhambra are the hardest throwers around.
May 25th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Yeah, I’m sure coaching had nothing to do with it….
Did Ross strike out all 21 outs? Probably not. Amazing how everyone blames the coaches if a team loses or fails to do something….but when the team wins, its because of something other than the coach.
How do you know he didn’t help his pitcher during the last couple years with some coaching and help with the mental approach?
May 26th, 2011 at 12:27 am
Put it this way, I was way more impressed with Ross than I was with the BOD coach’s antics in the 3rd base coaching box. The guy was dealing and throwing smoke. If anyone came away from that game saying how good the coaching was rather than the pitching, then they missed a heck of a game. I don’t know how much the coach has worked with him (and I’m sure he probably has), but some things are just genetic and throwing 94 MPH heaters can’t be taught. I don’t recall blaming the BOD coach for anything, but he has a heck of a pitcher to throw out there every other start. His brother is not bad either.
May 26th, 2011 at 5:06 am
If you think Ross is a Stud (which he is), Last year BOD had Eric Jaffe who even threw harder then Ross and was a way more dangerous hitter. The only Reason James Logan beat them last year was because Jaffe Pitched too many innings the previous game(coaching mistake maybe). Here’s my take on Coach K. #1 He seems to be a Players Coach which is good if they all respect him. #2 He knows the game of Baseball inside and out(Many years of experience) and number #3 Maybe the most important quality is no matter what with his players he always seems to be positive and reassuring. That being said, I personally didn’t like him because of his so called antics during the game(He’s like the energizer bunny nonstop). As I’ve seen him over the years I’ve came to realize that you’d be hard pressed to find a better head coach on the field. Now I don’t know what goes on in the dugout but I haven’t heard any of his former players or parents complain about him yet. I’m not saying he hasn’t made mistakes(bad play calling) what coach hasn’t? But as far as Coaching is concerned I can’t find too many that know more then him. Ok, I’ve said enough about BOD…Go Dons!!!!
May 26th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Groundskeeper:
The HAAL top 4 teams: CV,BOD,Arroyo and Moreau are all solid programs and I would usually include Hayward in that mix but they seem to have slipped a little and I’m not sure why because they usually have lots of talent up there on the hill. It’s the bottom half of the league that needs to get their act together. San Leandro was little more than opponent this year, a far cry from the great teams coach Munoz used to develope. Mt Eden was once a feared team for years and yet they seem to have settled for mediocracy. Tennyson and San Lorenzo both used to put some good teams together but lately the effort seems to be lacking. The AD’s at these schools need to put together solid coaching staffs that put forth the consistent effort needed to rebuild their programs, establish some tradition and regain some respectability within the league. They all need to schedule more games against quality teams. Speaking of CV, does anybody know why their Ace Narahara didn’t Throw against Newark?
May 26th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Yeah I know but I’m not gonna bring some more fuel for the negative talk on this blog. Besides, from what I hear their new coach seems like an alright guy with a good backround on baseball.
May 26th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Old HAAL Dad,
He did not pitch because of something that happened at CV.
May 26th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
And the twins scout said he will be taken in the mlb draft in june. It must not have been that bad.
May 27th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Dnrapp, Fair enough, none of my business. “Go HAAL”
May 27th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
R u kidding me ANCIENT HAAL dad. Hayward has been in the cellar or with Tennyson in the cellar for like the last 10 years. They are horrible.
As for O’Dowd, Coach K is an energizer bunny but there is quite a few upset players with the everybody plays little league mentality there. With Ross a 14-9-2 record is pretty darn bad. It means they basically lost every game when Ross was not pitching.
Winning the HAAL league does not mean crap. Heck, who has BOD really beaten other than CAL high? And when was the last time BOD even made the 2nd round?
I predict a loss to Irvington on Saturday.
As far as CV, they suck. They have thug wanta bees and Naharaha is pretty good but needs to take care of business off the field.
May 28th, 2011 at 11:08 am
“And when was the last time BOD even made the 2nd round?”
How about last year? Or the year before? It’s tough to talk crap when your lame attempts at smack are wrong…
May 28th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Didn’t BOD win a NCS title with Kris? I’m not positive?
May 28th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
For the record …
Coach K is completing his sixth year as head baseball coach at BOD. His teams have appeared in six consecutive NCS play offs. Went to championship game (lost vs Alameda) in his first year. Eliminated in opening round in years 2,3 and 4. Eliminated in second round last year. Made it to second round this year and will either advance to semis or go home pending the result tonite vs Irvington.
BOD has won only one NCS baseball championship, in 1993 under Coach Ray Allen. Key players on that BOD team were pitcher Ryan Drees (Cal, Texas Rangers, Cleveland Indians), hitters Tony Vella and Giancarlo Battino and shortstop Eric Olson. Both Vella and Olsen were scholarship FB players (Vella @ Stanford, Olson @ Boston College) and played for BOD coaching legend Coach Perenon.
May 28th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Obviously BOD with Ross is a different team. Better pitcher than his brother. If I recall, didn’t the older Ross lose twice in the semi-finals of NCS to De La Salle and Monte Vista. Couldn’t win the big game.
You do have to give BOD some credit though as they do petition up to D1 every year rather than piling up D3 championships like Miramonte who never consider challenging themselves outside of league or in the playoffs. Still going to that wimpy tournmaent every year and playing teams like Tennyson.
May 28th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
EB FB FAN,
Technically, 4th seeded BOD was eliminated by 5th seed California in the second round in 2009.
May 28th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Whats the score of the Arroyo-Alameda game?
Last i heard it was 1-0 Arroyo in the 2nd
May 28th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Arroyo-Alameda was called due to rain 1-0 Arroyo in the 2nd. Alameda pitcher was slipping off the mound.
Word is it will be replayed monday at noon
May 28th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Maybe Erndog will give you a rundown. Let’s just say if I was a Hornet fan I would be pretty embarassed right about now. Even one of their players had the audacity to turn to the crowd and say Shut Up! Well Alameda you sure shown your true colors. If that game was played at Arroyo they would’ve never even stopped it. Even the umpires should be ashamed for calling it. That field was in good condition. The Mound was a little moist, with a little more Turface and it would’ve been perfect. I’m a Groundskeeper and there were other ones in the stands that work infields and we all know that game should’ve been played.
Play Maker, Game is postponed until Monday at 12pm. I hope everybody kept their tickets. BTW, I know at least two Hornet fans that will now be Rooting for the Dons. Go Dons!
May 28th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
What are you talking about? If anyone shoud be ashamed it should be NCS for forcing a 5pm start and leaving no wiggle room for a delay. I guess 1pm or 2pm couldn’t have worked?
Everyone acts like Arroyo had a commanding lead or something. They scored a run on a throwing error and were one pitch away from scoring zero in the second. When I saw both pitchers and the.
conditions, I said it would take 10 runs to win. If both teams stay with the same pitchers, it will still take about 10 to win. So stop the crying….that rollercoaster was just starting. If you think the Arroyo pitcher was gonna throw up zeros al game, you’re crazy……
May 28th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Bases were loaded and 1 out. Cobb couldn’t throw a strike and wanted outta there, he got his wish. Sorry Erndog, from here on out I’ll let you give the COMPLETE story.
May 28th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
The BOD Irvington game was also postponed, but they played through the rain for 9 innings and stopped due to darkness tied at 5. BOD was down 5 to 1 in the 7th and scored 4 runs to force extra innings. Ross threw all 3 of his remaining innings, but it now looks like they may be able to use him on Monday, as I believe that will be considered a new week.
May 28th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Bases loaded 1 out means…..1 pitch away from a double play or one pitch away from a 2 run single or a couple pitches away from a 1 run walk? Either way, that game was gonna take a bunch more runs to win. I never like to talk about a kid negatively, but the Arroyo pitcher couldn’t throw a second pitch for a strike, so you really think he was gonna handle the lineup much past the 1st inning? Lets get real…..
All that being said, if I were the Arroyo coach I would have been screaming for the game to keep going. If I were the Alameda coach, I would have been real cool with a restart Monday. Either way…..it was stupid to have a Saturday 5pm start! The decision to end a game is solely on the umpire crew…and not up to either coach.
All do respect Erndog, the COMPLETE story will be told Monday….
May 28th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
How about play the game at a better field like the college of Alameda. Fans should not taunt high scool players or even talk to them. But if they are dumb it should be ignored. You would not see that from a coach K player.
May 28th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Didn’t notice what he was talking about…but did notice a bunch of Arroyo JV kids(I guess?) ragging on all the Alameda players from behind the plate? No big deal in the grand scale, but a little out of line I thought? I agree with you, no high school players should be taunted or ragged. That’s part of the college game…..not high school.
Great point….College of Alameda would have been a great place to play that game. It’s in awesome shape right now.
May 29th, 2011 at 12:10 am
The bigger question other than the start time is why would NCS allow a playoff game to be played on an all dirt infield. This is not little league.
May 29th, 2011 at 3:10 am
HAAL Baseball Observations:
1) What happended to Castro Valley? No Narahara? Thug wannabees at CV? Can’t imagine happening in CV – maybe Logan but not CV.
2) Most teams wanted an earlier Saturday start due to weather forecasts and Memorial Day weekend. NCS folks are a bunch of idiots. How did Antioch do?
3) Arroyo had Sr Prom on Friday – players out til late…why play early right?
4) Alameda/Arroyo pitchers had mud/clay problems with their shoes – thus was going to be an all “arm” no “leg” pitching contest with Arroyo having advantange batting first as visitors and stronger pitcher using less mechanical movement. Was going to be a walk fest eventually as you can’t pitch without legs the whole game. Could ruin a kid’s arm in one game.
5) Pauselius batting 8th – you have got to be kidding me….Kelly batting 7th.. he’s out batted most kids on the Alameda line up except for Elzig.
6) BOD/Irvington – they did not play the whole game in the rain as someone said. Was not raining through the 5th…can now use Ross in their continuation and roll into the next round.
7) Why should Alameda play elsewhere other than Lincoln Park? They won their League, was #1 in EB Polls, thus home field advantage. Also there is historical tradition of that field back to the early 1900s.
8) Arroyo can now pitch Pauselius with a new week and additional rest. He can match up against the top pitchers in the Bay Area but gets no recognition. Where is Alameda’s Yee? Something must be wrong as he has not appeared in first two games.
9) BOD should do well each year as their kids have mandatory summer clinics or don’t make the team. They also have the advantage of being a private school with a baseball conditioning instructor.
10) Going to be an exciting Monday – BOD/Irvington, Arroyo/Alameda.
May 29th, 2011 at 8:40 am
The NCS web site says all the games that were stopped by the rain are suspended. BOD/Irv, Arr/Ala, Mor/SM and 2 games in D5. They will start up were they were stopped.
May 29th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
BOD def doesn’t have a baseball conditioning instructor. And if they do his name is coach K.
May 29th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Somebody else asked this but why do you have a 5:00 pm start on Saturday. Moreau had to drive all they up to San Marin to have them call the game at 5:00 when the umps arrived. Apparently, it wasn’t raining until 4:00 pm. had they started at 1:00 pm we could have gotten the game in. Not only that, but they rescheduled at 5:00 pm on Tuesday. How about rescheduling on Monday when everyong is off work?
Just a quick comment on Coach K from BOD. I have gotten to see him coach for 5 years. I think he is great coach. His teams are well prepared and while I understand some don’t like all the chatter from the third base box it is always postive. Further, I would say this year is his best coaching, this BOD team is not loaded with a lot of big hitters like previous years so he gotten the best out of the players he’s had this year.
May 29th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
I haven’t seen him coach a game this year, but I know one thing….Kris is all about the kids. From T Ball all the way up to high school!
May 29th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Guest..I must have heard wrongly from a BOD parent. Apologies for thinking there was a Baseball Conditioning Instructor. Guess that kid should ignore the workout regimen given to him. Also, the kid won’t have time to work on it in the summer anyway due to the mandatory clinics.
As for the HAAL, Arroyo will stop the Alameda base runners by falling on top of them during pick-offs and landing on the base runner’s hands with their knees before the runner slides hand first back in to the bag. Seen it a lot in the HAAL.
If the game resumes in the middle of the inning, funny how Arroyo won’t have to pitch from the mud mound in their half of the 2nd inning. It will be nice and dry for them. If NCS was looking for equity, you would re-start from the beginning of the 2nd inning. No one on – no outs with 1 run lead. If it resumes where it left off, then the game should be considered part of last week with Pauselius limited in pitching due to his 7 inning game against Las Lomas.
May 29th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
HAAL re: #104. It started raining prior to the beginning of the 5th inning in the BOD-Irv game and continued off and on until the game was postponed ater 9. The point being that they played through the rain with only a couple of delays and the reason it was called was due to darkness and not because of the weather.
One BOD kid was hit in the head with a foul ball while inside the dugout and the game was stopped for about 10-15 minutes while he was attended to. I sure hope that kid is OK.
Coach K has his moments. 2 things definitely caught my eye about him yesterday that people in the stands were talking about. The first was a pitchout call with a 2-1 count. The runner was not going and the next pitch was ball 4 putting that runner on 2nd base. A head scrather to be sure. The second was pure brilliance. In the 9th inning with a runner on 1st base with 2 outs, he put in a pinch hitter to go up left handed and crowd the plate to make it tougher for the catcher to throw down to 2nd base. The pinch hitter was right handed, but stood in the left handed batter’s box for that one pitch. The runner stole on the first pitch, and he immediately put another hitter in to finish the at bat with a 1-0 count on him. The run didn’t score, but it was obvious Coach K was trying everything he knew of to try to score runs.
May 30th, 2011 at 1:57 am
Boy, some people are drinking way too much Hater-Aid. This is actually quite funny…LOL
Play Ball!
Go Dons!
May 30th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
How embarrassing for that kid to be up as a left handed hitter then pulled. Coach k is a quack. Talks more than the aflac duck.
May 31st, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Voice of Reason: Not embarrassing at all. Every O’Dowd fan and player knew the kid was right handed and knew what was going on. The kid was helping his team try to win a game. Nothing embarrassing about that.