- East Bay Prep Corner
East Bay Football Poll — 10/3
By Jimmy Durkin
Monday, October 3rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm in East Bay Football, East Bay Poll.
| Team | Record | Points | Last week |
| 1. De La Salle (7) | 3-1 | 105 | 1 |
| 2. California | 4-0 | 97 | 2 |
| 3. James Logan | 5-0 | 92 | 3 |
| 4. San Ramon Valley | 3-1 | 80 | t5 |
| 5. Encinal | 3-1 | 79 | t5 |
| 6. Freedom | 5-0 | 67 | 7 |
| 7. Pittsburg | 3-2 | 66 | 4 |
| 8. Las Lomas | 5-0 | 52 | 8 |
| 9. Miramonte | 5-0 | 49 | 9 |
| 10. Monte Vista | 2-2 | 45 | 10 |
| 11. Salesian | 5-0 | 38 | 11 |
| t12. Campolindo | 5-0 | 21 | 14 |
| t12. Granada | 2-2 | 21 | 12 |
| 14. Concord | 3-2 | 9 | NR |
| 15. Tennyson | 4-0 | 8 | NR |
Also receiving votes: Antioch (4-0, 5 points), Deer Valley (2-3, 3), Valley Christian (5-0, 3), Berkeley (2-3, 1). The East Bay Football Poll is voted on by the prep sports staff of Bay Area News Group-East Bay.
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October 3rd, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Never in my lifetime I thought I would ever see Tennyson on the Eastbay football poll.
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:06 pm
MVAL Stud,
You beat me to it. Props to the Lancers after some tough season they are having a great start to their season.
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 pm
How about Antioch getting a little attention, good to see them have a little success
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 pm
I’m going to have to agree with both of you guys. Best of luck to them! Always good seeing a team from Hayward doing well.
Pawn Star,
Thoughts on the upcoming Moreau game? Calpreps has a 35-34 victory projected for the Mariners.
-MF
October 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
not to b a hater but i think the voters kinda jumped the gun on like so kind of impulse by having tennyson ranked, lets b real they havent beat anybody that has a winning record, i mean none of their opponents are even close to .500, at least antioch has beaten some teams with some wins, mow if the beat arroyo hayward bod then they doing something, hate to say it but my pirates have 1 win, is that win what puts them in the rankings, ben and jimmy im just wondering
October 4th, 2011 at 4:10 am
Man Tennyson hasnt had a victory like that in a long time, the biggest win they’ve had was back in 07 when they beat Hayward and went 5-5, missed post season by one game basically. I am happy for them to, but how do you pass over Valey Christian and Antioch. Honestly its hard to believe that they could beat any other team in this poll, but I would love it if they did.
October 4th, 2011 at 4:34 am
Tennyson is a good D-3 team. It’s just hard to believe they are ranked. They handled a SL team that wacked Berkeley by 20 & Berkeley beat Pitt! So to say Tennyson couldn’t beat any other team in the poll is absurd.
October 4th, 2011 at 6:14 am
and Berkeley’s QB Stewart wasnt settled in yet and they were without one of the best running backs in Norther California……lets see SL do that again to Berkeley right now
October 4th, 2011 at 8:30 am
Of course I was hoping that Salesian would move up this week after taking care of Mack, especially with Jimmy there to cover that game. No moving up now with a bye and several BFL cupcakes coming up. A co-worker who saw the game also saw Miramonte earlier in the season and his opinion was that that they are a one man team who could not hang with the deep and versitle Salesian squad. I know, I know, our coach should have schedule them instead of Swett, Kennedy, etc.
October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Tennyson gets ranked in the top 15 because they beat a San Leandro team that is now 1-3 and who were missing some keys players including there best player #42 Joe Fotu? Give me a break. I give Tennyson all the props for winning the game but I don’t think they could hang with any of the teams listed before them. But I guess you can’t dismiss 4-0
October 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Pride Baller, you guys need to stop whining and schedule better teams since you guys play in a weak division and league. Prove yourselfs before you come on here talking about why you should move up after beating weak ass Mack.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Prideballer take ur complaints 2 ur head coach if gil lemon didnt make him leave da bfl next year he probably woulda stayed 4ever. Really wat satisfaction does he get beaten these garbage teams? Prideballer did ur head coach/ad petition up 2 d3? If not y cuz winning d4 doesnt say or mean much n wont get u 2 state over who wins d3 ncs
October 4th, 2011 at 10:04 am
1. De La Salle-
2. California
3. Logan- Are they forreal?
4. Encinl- over rated?
5. SRV- 3rd best in EBAL
6. Freedom- doing good things so far
7. Las Lomas- Possible winner of DFAL
8. Pitt- lost two straight. Not looking good
9. Miramonte- Without Anderson they suck
10. Monte Vista- very down year.
11. Salesian- Could be higher if they ever play better teams
12. Campolindo- Suprise team
13. Concord- getting better after slow start
14. Granada- may drop off after next week
15. Deer Valley- much better than record
October 4th, 2011 at 10:26 am
With the exception of DLS, a case could be made the DFAL is more than on par with the EBAL. I would love to see Las Lomas vs California, Miramonte vs SRV, and Camplindo vs Monte Vista. As it stands now, the top 3 DFAL teams may very well be undefeated going into week 7.
With Cardinal Newman, Marin Catholic & Encinal all in D3, I believe the D3 playoffs may be deeper and more exciting than D2.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
ManDown,
I think its a little harsh to say that without Anderson, Miramonte would suck. Like any team with a star QB Miramonte would be a lesser team without him, but you should probably check your facts.
Seven different players (including Anderson) have scored TDs for Miramonte in their first five games. They also have a solid kicking game and numerous quality playmakers that have yet to score. Their backup QB is a pretty good runner in his own right and probably has a more accurate arm than Anderson. In the early games Miramonte had a hard time getting the passing game on track and Anderson was the only running game, but in more recent games both the receivers and running backs have been contributing. I guess I’m OK with teams thinking that Anderson is Miramonte’s only threat, that’s what Acalanes thought and they got burned!
October 4th, 2011 at 11:09 am
DFAL Guy I think you are wrong. Of the three games you suggested, EBAL goes 3-0 with double digit victories in my opinion. I’m not saying that those aren’t good teams that you listed there, but the EBAL is a much stronger league top to bottom.
October 4th, 2011 at 11:58 am
1.De La Salle
2.San Ramon..the sleeper
3.Cal..might pull major upset
4.Logan
5.Freedom
6.Encinal
7.Las Lomas
8.Monte Vista
9.Pittsburg
10.Salesian
11.Miramonte
12.Concord
13.Campolindo
14.Tennyson
15.Bishop O’Dowd
October 4th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Easy does it Panther 4. I think EBAL may be down a bit this year as well. Match ups would be interesting. Too bad they will never happen.
SRV vs MIR- Would be interesting and a high scoring affair. SR wins 42-41 on a blocked extra point.
MV vs CAMPO- another toss up but MV wins with better coaching 37-30
CAL vs LL- heres you double digit victory CAL wins easily 42-7
EBAL still 3-0 but closer than expected!
October 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Come on Spark…Even in a down year EBAL dusts DFAL. Better coaching, more players to choose from, way better depth. As I said before, I’m not trying to say that those other teams are bad, they just aren’t as good as EBAL’s top 3-6. Also, how come every time people from other leagues talk about EBAL they alway say…Besides De La Salle. They are in the league so lets include them in the conversation. You a Miramonte guy Baldman??
October 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
ManDown, BillJohnson, I’m not whining, just making the case. Mack was pretty darn tough for three quarters, just got worn down by a deeper, more talented team. They’ll win the OAL again this year though it’s obviously a down year for that league.
I do not know what motivates our coach, he does not let on (at least to the parents or alumni). According to my son the players goal is to go to state. I agree that they have to go up to D3 to make it, it makes no sense to take the D3 winner over the D4 winner. I hope he goes that route.
BTW, the non-subjective Calpreps rates Salesian (37.3) significantly higher than the next four teams ahead of them in this weeks rankings (all in the low to mid 20′s). So at least I have some computer on my side.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
EBAL vs DFAL comparison…I hate to come down on the EBAL side of the argument. As a Miramonte fan, it kills me to say that DFAL cannot compete with EBAL. Dublin played Livermore and got beat. Dublin is at least a middle-of-the-road DFAL team getting beat by a middle-of-the-road EBAL team. I think that game pretty much sums it up. A few years back, 2009 I think, Miramonte played Foothill and got beat 42-21 or something like that. There’re just too big and deep.
On the other hand, I think DFAL is good enough that DFAL should schedule more EBAL games. I would love to see an annual Miramonte-SRV game even if the odds are stacked against us.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Pride Baller,
For what it’s worth, I was very impressed with Salesian and bumped them to No. 8 in my rankings. Of course, I’m only one of seven voters and that wasn’t enough to move them up.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Even with the EBAL schools averaging roughly 1000 more students than the DFAL schools, I say the DFAL top 3 or 4 could hold their own against EBAL’s best this year. I really think LL could go toe to toe with California this year and give them a game.
And I’m sorry, but DLS is in a league all to themselves. Wake me up in 15 years when Lad decides to hang it up and then maybe, just maybe, they may lose a league game.
Spark, you lost any credibility when you said Bergman is a better coach than Macy. To those who follow HS Football closely, Macy more than holds his own against the top coaches in the East Bay.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Dont get why antioch is receiving votes when they probably had the weakest pre season schedule in their league.. Deer Valley should be still ranked.. despite their record.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Macy is a good coach, no argument there. Just think Bergman is better. Top to bottom coaching is better in EBAL.
October 4th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
MiraMan’s NCS D3 Rankings:
1. Cardinal Newman – It’s theirs to lose.
2. Marin Catholic – Only team that can beat CN, but they are vunerable to an upset themselves.
3. Miramont – Team has flaws, but enough firepower on offense and tenacity on defense to go with anyone.
4. O’Dowd – Still very dangerous and outside chance they can upset CN or MC. Much scarier than Encinal.
5. Encinal – OVERRATED…any goodwill they get from Serra near-win they squandered in Alameda near-loss. Still dangerous and will win-out bombed-out league, but they fade in NCS tourney.
6. Del Norte – Play smallish teams, so they are tough to rate.
7. Campolindo – Even w/ 5 wins and a 6th win likely against Acalanes, I still feel they lose 3 games down the stretch and go into NCS wounded and vunerable.
8. Tennyson – Overrated, but fun to see them winning. Saw them scrimmage and their D looked tough.
9. Analy – Great passing game, but small and lack depth.
10. Hercules – Weak schedule, I know, but they spread the ball around alot and they have upset written all over them in the NCS tourney to any team the overlooks them.
October 4th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
of course coming from a miramonte fan.. miramonte would never be on top of encinal, in any day of the week
October 4th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
DLS will drop 1 league game and escape 1 other before play-offs. San Ramon may take EBAL.
October 4th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Berkeley is going to run through The ACCAL,Encinal just squeezd by Alameda who got smashed by Berkeley.If Berkeley was to play San Leandro Or Marin catholic now it would be a much different story.With Stewart at QB and Jame at RB they are hard to beat
October 4th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
While the DFAL looks to be much improved this year, they are not quite up to the level of the EBAL teams. CalPreps does a comparison of leagues and the DFAL is 3rd in NCS with an average rating of 15.3 behind the EBAL (31.7) as well as the BVAL (23). Livermore beat Dougherty Valley and Dublin last season en route to a 3-0 preseason, and then went 0-7 in EBAL play. This year, Livermore beat Dublin again.
http://calpreps.com/2011/ratings/North_Coast_leagues.htm
October 4th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
ManDown, is this going to be a weekly thing? You keep attacking Miramonte and they keep winning. Maybe I should be asking you to keep it up, on second thought… Anyway, your comment, “without Anderson they suck” is, let’s just call it, situationally inconsequential. Yea I said it! I mean really, what is your point? First off, I don’t agree with you (for many of the same reasons that MiraMan laid out already). Secondly, let’s apply your criticism to another team: The Colts – without Manning they suck. As we’ve seen, indeed they do. However, if you were ranking NFL teams, with a HEALTHY Manning still playing, would you downgrade the Colts on the assumption that without him they suck? Somehow I don’t think so. Obviously I’m not comparing the Colts to the Mats. It’s the principle I’m concerned with. One must judge teams by what they’ve done, with the players they have at the moment. Of course Miramonte would be a diminished team without Anderson, but news flash! he’s still playing. Unless he gets hurt, try to maintain this little thought experiment: an historically strong team led by a star player. Think. Thiiink.
Man1:That pizza I had last week was good. I’ll bet if I get it again this week, from the same place, it’ll be pretty good still.
Man2:Yea, but without cheese it would have sucked.
Man3:Um, ok…
Are we talking about the same pizzas here, ManDown? Mmm, pizza…
October 4th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
MiraFaithful, Is Miramonte not ranked 9th on my board? Okay then that obviously means something right? With Anderson they are good, without him they suck IMO. In your post all you did was prove my point. Oh and the pizza joke was cute. Lol.
October 4th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Miraman talk to me after you play las lomas you beat them lets talk if not shut up. 1cardinal newman 2 marin catholic 3 encinal 4 odowd 5 miramonte they lose 2 out of 3 to campo, las lomas & dublin.
October 4th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Monte Vista and Concord should Not be in top 15.
But Antioch and Valley Christian should be for sure
October 4th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
With a dominant win over D2 Sequoia last week Valley Christian should be in the top 15 for sure… We will see in Week 9 when Valley Christian meets Selesian and thy finally gets the props they deserve.
October 4th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Chronicle has Encinal at 12 with only 2 D-III teams ahead of them CN & MC. BOD unranked & Miramonte at 22. I think that says it all. Thats North Bay, South Bay, East Bay & West Bay. This rankings is just the East Bay. I hope Encinal plays Miramonte in the play-offs. See you then if can make it to the 2nd or 3rd rounds! A lot of Schram teams are known to be huge underachievers.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/04/SPVQ1LCVRB.DTL
October 5th, 2011 at 8:26 am
does strength of schd. count 4 anything any-more
WHAT HAPPENED 2 THE DAYS WHEN U PLAYED THE BEST TEAMS PRESEASON CUZ UR LEAGUE WAS CRAP
NOW UR LEAGUE IS CRAP AND PRESEASON IS CRAP
dam these republicans!!!! LOL
October 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Miraman, the season is still very young and I will come to Encinal’s defense regarding
your comment about losing credibility because of the Alameda game.
ALAMEDA ENCINAL games have always been competitive, records go out the door and teams play their hearts off, ask Miramonte coach he will tell you himself.
I forsee Encinal/Miramonte game in the future so be careful of what you say as the time will come when you find out first hand who has a better team, besdies the fact that the Matadors will be losing more games before the season ends.
October 5th, 2011 at 11:45 am
How is Granada ahead of Concord when both have a mutual opponent in Heritage and Granada lost while Concord won?
October 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Logan is really not that good this year. their line is average but kind of small. They are only good at the Running back position. I think this is going to be their BEST year since their starting O line and D line are seniors. i think they will get passed the first round thats about it.
October 5th, 2011 at 11:58 am
fremont is stupid they put three schools within 100 feet of each other. i think they should combine those schools and get a great football team. they will probably beat De La Salle.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
ESPN Rise has Encinal at 20 in NorCal (all divisions and sections). Not a sniff of Miramonte or BOD in HM. That close OT Serra loss is better than all of the DIII wins out there.
October 5th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Except for that CN Palma tie
October 5th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
or the marin win over vacaville.. and Cn wins over VC
October 5th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Encinal is struggling but still winning. Right? Miramonte get over yourselves you barely beat Analy & I think it took a key late in the 4th quarter drive to beat Liberty. Not impressed. If you’re not impressed with Encinal well I’m not either I’m still waiting for their best game. For almost losing to ALameda but winning you think they should drop? I think the same about the Miramonte hype. Miramonte got closer to beating Encinal in the play-offs in 09 then Alameda this year. Way closer almost a 3 possession lead late in the 3rd. Did it matter or it did all that matter that Encinal won? That ALameda game was weird they never had the lead in the 2nd half & Encinal having too many mentals errors & penalties:
http://www.alamedasun.com/sports/9141-jets-score-tight-win-over-alameda-hornets
“I’ve never seen a team try harder to lose a game,” said Jet coach Joe Tenorio. “There comes a time to cut the crap and play the game. It frustrated me.”
October 5th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
To all you Encinal fans, I don’t have any grudge against Encinal, I just think they are overrated and I’ve gotten tired of hearing them mentioned in the same breath as CN and MC, both of whom are deserving of their lofty reputations. Could I be wrong? Certainly, but that’s why I hope we get a game together in the NCS to decide it. Whoever wins, I think it would be a great game.
In terms of Miramonte winning-out DFAL league, I never said we were certain to win all 6 league games. Los Lomas is a big challenge and Dublin may be as good. I would also not overlook DV or Alhambra. We will beat Campo or I’m jumping off a bridge!! Six tough games in a row. Such are the perils of playing in a strong league…as opposed to some teams who play St. Mary’s Preschool and the Piedmont Rowing Club. OK, that was mean, but I just couldn’t resist.
With regard to Coach Schram, he is well respected as a coach and as a leader of young men. His impact on the success of the Miramonte program over the past few years is probably not well understood outside the school. I would also mention that as head coach this year he has made some steely calls including going for two against Analy to ice the game instead of the tie and the decision to put the ball in the endzone against Liberty instead of a punt-and-hold strategy. Both calls suprised me as I assumed he would be a stodgy go-by-the-book coach.
October 5th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
WHat the hell is going on in the HAAL? I wouldn’t sleep on Hayward. They played a tough non-league & seemed to be getting better. I think hthey could finish 2nd. But who knows. Don’t know about BOD but I thin they still atleast tie for the championship. I saw them play on-line & they seem to be going in weird direction.
JImmy Durkin, if a team ties for the league championship to they get an automatic birth & Host over higher seeds? I thin they get the automatic birth.
October 5th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
VC might not be as good as they used to be and Serra is probably a little better than Palma. WCAL and CCS will figure all of that out for us though. But let’s keep it real, Encinal gave that game away. Any coach in their right mind does not want Encinal in their bracket come playoff time.
October 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Perkin,
Only one team per league gets the auto berth. If there’s a tie for the title (which I think is a decent possibility), they’ll use whatever tie-breaker process there is to give one team the auto berth and home field advantage. If it’s a two-way tie, it’s head-to-head. If it’s three-way, it gets more complicated, but still only one team get the league champ designation for playoff purposes.
October 5th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Miramonte has more on that team than just the quarterback. The rb/wr/cb Kevin Booze is pretty good.
October 5th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Except Newman. Haha. I think the last four teams standing last year, Newman, Miramonte, Encinal, and Marin Catholic are all itching to play each other again. Ever coach wants to play Encinal come playoff time. Every coach wants to play Newman…etc. This may be the most fun year NCS D3 has seen in a while. I hope it goes Encinal v. Newman and Marin v. Miramonte in semifinals to set up a Holy War for the championship. But all four are good teams and the latter three will be playing hard to keep Newman from championship #12.
October 5th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
mirafan
you could have scheduled Serra…but instead you came after the D1 powerhouse that is Liberty. Plus Encinal gets it done with a roster of less than 25 each year. They dont do expensive camps or have alternate uniforms..they just smash your face…which is exactly what will happen in the second round of NCS this year Encinal will get Miramonte in the Nailhouse and take them to task.
For the record I am not an Encinal guy in any way. I just respect those guys that take their kids and march them into whatever comes…not guys with every advantage that still duck the heavyweights
October 5th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Miraman you guys have been real quiet since ncs opened it up with redwood empire no longer is ncs a bunch of dfal rematches 06 last time you made the finals. Encinal beat marin 2 outta 3 buddy plus it was 7-7 in the 4th qtr against cnewman with trodder & okamura out the team that came to your house and shredded your defense. Wasnt schram at encinal before his recent stint at miramonte talk to me next year after anderson leaves will see the tune your singin then
October 5th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Mira Man, you may have to get ready to jump off that bridge when Miramonte plays Campolindo. I saw your game against Acalanes and was not impressed at all with Miramonte. For most of the game the Dons were the better team. Stop Anderson on the ground and he has shown he is only average at throwing the ball.
Campolindo has issues to be sure, but if they win their next two games against Acalanes & Dublin, in which they will be favored, you may want to reserve a spot on the Golden Gate Bridge.
October 5th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
I heard Encinal wanted to play CN week one. CN chose to play Alhambra.
October 5th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Actually, as far as the league goes, neither Campolindo nor Miramonte have the horses to deal with the line they will see against Las Lomas. Las Lomas has what it takes to make it to the D2 Championship game.
October 5th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
DFAL guy,
I am concerned with winning vs Las Lomas and to a lesser degree against Dublin. I see us handling Campo. But to be candid, I don’t see it as the end of the world if we go into the NCS as a 9-1 team, especially if that loss is to a D2 contender. I’m not conceeding anything as I think we have the speed and talent that Las Lomas and Dublin lacks, but they definitely have size on the line that we lack.
Also, I’m suprised about your analysis of the Acalanes game. There is no more confounding team to play in DFAL than Acalanes. There slow-grind offense is tough for Miramonte’s small D-Line and they were effective in the first half stopping us from scoring any TDs while grinding out one TD themselves. The second half we reeled off three TDs with relative ease while holding them to one. I didn’t count, but I think we scored on four possessions our of about eight (of which two were at the very end of halfs, so six real possessions) – my point is that we were consistently moving the ball on them. Our passing game wasn’t pretty, but I think we ended up with like 10 of 20 passing for 147 yards with one interception (on a long pass at the end of first half) – not that bad for a HS team. All in all, I would call a 10-point victory over Acalanes a “solid win” and never felt we were being outplayed. Given the size difference, I would be embarassed if I were Acalanes; it looked like a D1 team playing a D4 team.
October 5th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Cronin was really impressed by Alhambra in a game he saw last year and thought they would make a good match up. He was wrong. Encinal called, but Newman will probably see them later on anyways. I understand that Encinal is far greater competition this year than Alhambra, but sometimes you just want the kids to play a wider variety of teams. And Alhambra is pretty good most years, so perhaps next year with Newman coming to them, it will make for a better game.
October 5th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Football Fan,
You’re doubting Logan, but look at their record. California barely got by Foothill also. Logan will meet De La Salle in the NCS finals.
October 5th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
KillerD,
What are your thoughts / insight on the Fortuna at Del Norte contest Friday night up in Crescent City?
October 5th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
why would CN play Encinal week 1? especially there is a high likely hood they will playing in the D3 semis or finals??
October 5th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
scl alum…..people sleeping on del norte, i think they win this one and is a team that pull an upset or 2 come NCS
October 5th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Yeah, Suckafree, I would agree. Seems like they have tough, winning teams every few years or so..
October 5th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Cause Cardinal Newman posted for a game. Pretty simple. I don’t beleive they posted the game saying they don’t want to play any good competition. Encinal shouldn’t be worried about them not wanting to play. It just show their Coach fears Encinal. Kind of a compliment.
Encinal Coach blogged about it earlier. It would have guarenteed Cardinal Newman a #1 seed no questions asked. CN could be 9-0-1 or even 9-1 & MC could be 10-0 but if they beat a top D3 team you can’t question it.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Wow… didn’t wanna run that slant across the middle and checked for a 5 yard out. Thanks for the info Patrick. Confirms my suspicions.
October 5th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
While Logan is pretty much assured at least a #3 seed unless they gwt
October 5th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Whoops. unless log
October 5th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
OK, new keyboard. Unless Logan gets tripped up by an unranked team in league, they are pretty much assured at least a #3 seed. Cal, DLS and SRV all have to play against 4 other top 15 ranked in the next 6 weeks. Logan very well could get the #2 seed or even the top seed if the EBAL teams beat up each other, but there is no gaurantee they will win 3 playoff games.
Logan scored only 13 points against Foothill, and even though Cal fumbled a couple of times in Foothill territory to give them 2 TDs, they still were able to put up more than 20 on them. Logan will not be tested until the playoffs, and then we’ll see what they can do.
October 5th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Let’s not get high and mighty. Newman still had what was on paper the toughest preseason schedule at the time it was scheduled of any team in D3. The D2 champion from NCS and a CCS Open finalist and semifinalist. Valley Christian and Palma are usually better teams than Encinal, and I think Palma still is. I don’t think it’s at all cowardly of Cardinal Newman to schedule who it did. Encinal will get the chance to prove itself in playoffs. They were impressive in their loss to Serra and I will be excited to see the two teams play later on.
October 5th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
stop whining about this poll…it doesnt have any relevance..
the games will get sorted out on the field in each league, and then in ncs playoffs…
October 6th, 2011 at 12:13 am
miraman,,,i believe miramonte lost to foothill 14-7 on the last play of the game in 08? james king’s feet got tangled with thier star wr and feel down leaving the wr wide open. That was Mannion(oregon st) qb senior year. ever so often a very good dfal team can compete with the ebal teams, it just has to be the right match up. That year miramonte was huge on the ol/dl and had a couple very good skilled players (james king, conner lowery)
October 6th, 2011 at 6:37 am
@ Post 68. Don’t forget the 150 yards or so the refs gave Foothill in the California vs. Foothill game.
October 6th, 2011 at 7:13 am
@68/71: There were two TD drops in that game also. One in the end zone and a bomb where the safety was beat or Farley would have had his 4th three TD game in a row. Foothill’s D line had a good game. Penalties aside, it would have been 33-10 with 3:00 to go, quite different than 22-17, but that’s HS football.
October 6th, 2011 at 7:47 am
@68/71/72- Come on guys, Foothill threw 2 picks, dropped a wide open touchdown and missed a FG. I’m not saying they should have won, but stop the excuses regarding penalties, drops ect…every game has these. Foothill has played Pitt, Logan and Cal and I would say that Pitt and Cal were better then Logan.
October 6th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Interesting that Cal was outscored by Foothill 17-7 in the second half. Maybe those 3 non-league scrimmages put them behind a bit.
October 6th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Drops are one thing, picks not tipped are another. Typically unwise decisions. The post was to give insight to EBAL readers since the game was not blogged. Film is up on www (kbc sports and IBN does games) and after watching, it’s true, Foothill had their share of missed opportunities. Even the Cal QB states in his web interview his team “has to eliminate” theirs. Props deservedly to Foothill though, a very tough schedule thus far, and they are better than their record indicates. As I stated, that’s HS football, and after the EBAL beats up on itself, playoffs will be the true test.
October 6th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Oldschooldfalfan,
You are correct that Miramonte lost to Foothill in 2008 as you describe. Miramonte also lost to Foothill in 2009. I agree that a GOOD DFAL team can be competitive with some EBAL teams. I just think its a stretch to say that generally DFAL teams can be competitive with EBAL teams – no way! As I also said, I would love to see Miramonte play Cal or SRV, even though the prognosis would be bad for Miramonte.
October 6th, 2011 at 9:59 am
That very well could be Junior, but at least they did not allow more than 200 yards rushing, which was the prior red flag stat ypu brought up when they crushed CV a few weeks back. Foothill was the first game that Cal’s starters played most of the game this year, and I’m sure it was good for them to get that extended play in the second half as they are in for dog fights in EBAL play.
I did not make any comments about drops or penalties, but was just saying that Cal was able to move the ball against Foothill and put up 22 points, while Logan was held to just 13. I didn’t see the Logan-Foothill game, but would have to think Cal played better offensively against the Falcons than did JL. I was responding to the posts stating that Logan was a sure bet to make the NCS title game that were using the Cal-Foothill game as some sort of barometer.
October 6th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
The Logan/Foothill game is not exactly a barometer of Logan’s offense. Foothill did a nice job offensively of dinking and dunking and keeping the Logan offense off the field. As a matter of fact Logan only had 10-15 offensive plays in the first half. On one of Logan’s offensive series a ball was tipped and foothill intercepted killing a drive early, foothill also recovered on onside kick to start the second half, eliminating another Logan drive. On both Logan scoring drives they marched down the field, foothill did a nice job on two or three others of slowing them down, but all in all Logan had less than 35 offensive plays. An anomaly.
That being said, I believe foothill could be the third best team in the EBAL, SRV vs Foothill will be the battle for third.
October 6th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
That very well could be Logan Alum. Thanks for the input. Foothill has a very good defense and the only question is whether or not they can outscore SRV, Granada or MV. They sure played competitvely in losses to Pitt, Logan and Cal, and it would be a shame if they don’t get enough wins this year to extend Sweeney’s NCS playoff run to 19 straight years. Facing DLS this week most likely puts them into a deep hole at 1-4, so going into the final 5 games they’ll need to go at least 4-1 vs. SRV, MV, Granda, Livermore & AV.
October 6th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Did not direct my post at you prep… but you essentially restated what I posted in regards to Cal starters not playing in the non-league games. Shines more light on the importance of scheduling.
Just making observations….
October 6th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Hey anyone knows what’s going on with Lewis @ pinole? haven’t heard much from him.
October 6th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
I know it wasn’t directed at me Junior, but I agreed with it. Our starters had not been tested until Friday. Hopefully, the extra work put in by the starters last week will help them against MV tomorrow.
October 6th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Del Norte vs. Fortuna for SCL Alum. I have been gone all week, no picks to get to.
Del Norte is a good DN team this year, not the typical underacheiver that so rankles the faithful up yonder.
But Fortuna is good to with impressive wins.
I still like Del Norte to lay some of that Artic freeze all over the frostbitten Huskies, who will help away into the night after giving up more points than they score.
Del Norte 26 vs. Fortuna 21
October 6th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
You guys are putting too much on Tennyson. Their win against SL was a fluke. they will lose to Hayward, Arroyo and BOD.
October 6th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
#64…Perkin…..Last year..Cardinal Newman beat Encinal 35-7 and most of that same team is back this year, plus depth….This year would be another repeat performance of CN knocking off Encinal….Next year…CN has a good JV team moving up to beef up the varsity..so CN rolls on…
October 6th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
I’ll say the samething again if its so easy then why did Cronin cower out of a game?? Guaranteed #1 seed.
October 6th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
HAAL Watcher: I seen Hayward against San Lorenzo tonight and they didn’t look all that impressive against a bad San Lorenzo team. San Lorenzo was down 27-13 and twice had a chance to get within a touchdown after recovering two fumbles inside the Hayward 20 in the third quarter. Everybody’s saying that Tennyson hasn’t beaten anybody in nonleague and the SL win was a fluke? How was that when they led throughout the game? Hayward’s three wins have been against teams with a combined 2-12 record. Tennyson has been pretty good against the run that Hayward has a non-existent passing game.
October 6th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Because they played what looked at the time they scheduled it to be a murderous preseason schedule without Encinal that will get them the #1 seed anyways. It’s not like the seeding means a thing anyways. Newman will make it to the playoffs, will almost definitely be in the finals, and is the best bet to win it all regardless of their seed. You have to be kidding me using the word “cower”. A team that was ranked #20 in the nation for a time last year. A team that won NCS a Division up last year. A team that has one of the best winning streaks in Northern California. Any coach in California would have looked at that schedule this summer and been impressed. Sure Valley is down (but still very good) as is Concord. But to suggest that not scheduling Encinal given what was already on the calendar was cowardice is as ignorant as it is insulting.
October 6th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Having seen Berkeley, Encinal, Pittsburg, Campo and Marin Catholic, it’s clear that Encinal is not in their league by a long shot. They will be lucky to get past the first round of the playoffs especially if the team they play has a passing game.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:59 am
last time i checked Encinal beat Marin who beat Berkeley. “tyrone”. 2 out 3 last 3 went to encinal and lets not forget Encinal had 4 starters out in the championship. it was a 7-7 game the whole way until the 4th.. So I do expect another Cn Vs encinal game this year, With Cardinal newman Advancing to the state championship.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:07 am
Who else is on the Encinal bandwagon?
October 7th, 2011 at 6:17 am
perkin CN didnt need to play Encinal for the #1 “guranteed” seed……playing VC, Palma i dont think CN needed Encinal on their schedule……Encinal scheduled Serra and no one else, sounds like they needed to look a little harder if they wanted baller ass OOC schedule….CN didnt need them
October 7th, 2011 at 6:56 am
HAAL Watcher:
the fluke is sl won 4 all those years
the talent on the team was far superior then other teams in the haal if any teams talent level is even close to SL they will lose. odowd and arroyo will beat them 4 sure. which means no playoff !!!! at 4-6
October 7th, 2011 at 6:58 am
sky walker where r u son
have u gone 2 the darkside
October 7th, 2011 at 8:33 am
What fun we have in D3. Great discussions and opinions for and against teams.
BVAL Expert – I am on the Encinal bandwagon and we have taken that bandwagon to the championship each year since 2008. On the way, we have seen, MC, Miramonte, Novato and CN. Each year there is the “new” team that will beat Encinal’s 22 man squad and in the end, each year we pack our bags to go the championship. See you there again this year.
Win some and lose some but we are at D3 Championship game and not buying ticket to attend.
Jet Pride!!
October 7th, 2011 at 9:14 am
#91 Hello, McFly – it’s 2011
October 7th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Don’t look now but Campolindo may be a force to reckon with in D3. They are undefeated at 6-0 with 2 big games looming against Miramonte & Las Lomas and look to be getting better every week. Could be two 7-0 teams hooking up when Miramonte comes to Moraga in week 8.
Don’t forget Campolindo ended the favored Encinal’s season in 2007 and it may happen again in 2011.
October 7th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Not the point I’m making sucka. The point is every CN fan is saying how easy they could breeze through the East Bay &/or beat Encinal. IM SAYING DAMN THE EHS COACH CALLED FOR A GAME! They had an opening & didn’t want to play. The CN Coach posted the freaking game. HE said they would go TOO CN. Every blogger saying that Encinal would get blown out it would be an easy game ect.. Well their coach doesn’t feel that way. Obviously. If I know I could beat a team & they want to come to my house. I’m playing them. Especially if they finish the year deep in the play-offs every year.
Kinda hard for EHS to buid up their OCC when they’re CALLING THE FAVORITE FOR D3 STATE CHAMPIONSHIP & they don’t want to play. Neither did SRV, Granada, Las Lomas if I remember.
October 7th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Seems like you have a valid point PERKIN. Encinal will just have to prove it in the playoffs to quiet all these Cardinals.
October 7th, 2011 at 11:13 am
tyrone i agree with u and the mcfly come back kinda funny
October 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
its bout mid season and i think its been great so far im enjoying it, wish i could attend more games, or more on tv so i could record them on my dvr, d3 is very deep but i think d2 is going to b better than people think
October 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Alameda beat a JV filled Richmond team last night 41-14. It was 28-14 at half, Richmond was very much in the game. Alameda could only muster 2 scores in the 2nd half ? Did I mention Richmond had to forfeit the JV game because they had to fill the varsity squad. It looks like a tough road for Alameda and their new HC…. Pinole next week then El Cerrito. I was at the game and Alameda should have put up 80, and blanked Richmond. The Island bowl , Alameda blew their wad , and are done for the season. Their defense is suspect and Pinole, El Cerrito, and, Hercules will run through them.
October 7th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Campo Pride,
As a Miramonte fan, I admit I had Campo to finish dead last in DFAL and now at 6-0 there’s no denying that Campo is the real deal! I almost fell out of my chair when I saw the Acalanes score. Beating Acalanes by more than 14 is a real challange. What are you guys putting in the water out there in Moraga??
We’ll see you in a few weeks and hopefully both teams will be undefeated.
October 7th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
What’s your point Eagle? That encinal is not that good? Why should they have put up 80? Are you sure you were there? – calpreps has the score 49-14
October 7th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Campo Pride I’m sure the coaches remember but there were no kids on the team now that even attended Encinal then.
October 7th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
COACH Macy
is one of the best coaches i ever had
glad 2 C HIM undefeated
October 7th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
@ Reality, you’re right it was 49, although the last td was suspect , I think the ref’s were ready to leave…No I’m not saying Encinal is not good enough, they’re clearly not only the best team in Alameda ;but , one of the best in the Eastbay. Alameda played a team from Richmond comprised of at least 70% or more jv players , and at times Alameda struggled to move the ball and play defense. Richmond beat themselves with poor ball security. If Alameda put 41 on Encinal , playing a young inexperienced team of 16 players, Alameda should have played a better game. 80 ? figure of speech, that would be unsportsman like….LOL
October 7th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Cronin teaches his squad to play dirty. Only problem is this season Encinal is ready to match them. He would of got it week 1-3 if Cronin wasn’t such a coward. Alhambra yeah right are you kidding me. I’m not saying Alhambra isn’t a good team but to beat Encinal is a guaranteed 1 seed and all the cardinal fans know that. Cronin be flooding too.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Alameda high football is suspect at best. They need to beat Pinole Valley. The Nailhouse beat em up bad. Lewis, how does he even get to play the next week after missing the Island Bowl. They say he was at band camp. Cash rules everything around Alameda high.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Cronin all I got to say is ENCINAL got the Mighty Ek Chuah with us this time around buddy. It has been foretold. You run because you are afraid… Hahahaha
October 7th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Last night, American destroyed Irvington which beat Washington last week. The title for second place in the MVAL is now between American and Newark.
October 7th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Nice try roper. Lewis has several talents, but music is not one of them. He had strep throat and couldn’t play, unfortunately for alameda that had an impact on the Island Bowl. Why do you encinal guys all have such an inferiority complex?
October 7th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
malik did this lewis kid play vs b high, and what pos does he play
October 7th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
American and Newark play each other two weeks from now, should be a good game
October 7th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
#113 I think he’s a jr. about 6’2″ 185 and plays QB, tight end, safety and is the punter (they missed him at the Encinal game) At Berkeley he played QB after Manibussen got hurt. Not his best game but there were many dropped passes and Berkeley (very athletic team) was bringing the house most of the time. He did get off every punt.
October 7th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
yes alameda had some drops they seemed scared, but with this lewis kid they got smashed by b high, it wasnt even close, good luck vs pv and ec
October 7th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
They’ll be a number one seed anyways, they’ve already played two better teams than Encinal, and they beat Encinal significantly last year with a heavy junior team. You also have not seen Cardinal Newman play because I have never heard anyone see their games and claim they play dirty. They may be the best coached team in NCS after De La Salle. And they had the hardest preseason schedule in D3 without Encinal, so it’s laughable to call them in any way cowardly. But it’s a lost effort. I guess it will never make sense to a few of you. Newman beat Encinal last year 35-7 and are defending NCS champions going on championship 12 and emerged from D3′s toughest preseason 3-0-1. I think it’s safe to assume they’re doing just fine without having played Encinal.
October 7th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
No doubt Berkeley is playing very good ball right now. Alameda had about 5 starters out by the 2nd quarter and then the wheels came off as the depth isn’t there.
October 7th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
I am surprised with the Cal and Mv game. I thought Cal would have handily beat MV.
October 7th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Anyone have final score on Del Norte-Fortuna?
October 7th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
I know I have talked high on Moreau but I just heard they loss to St. Mary’s. That’s big!,
October 7th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
wow i asked earlier whats up wit st mary’s beating st pats didnt see them beating moreau if thats true, wow congrats to coach minor, hey jimmy or ben can i get some updates
October 7th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
I am shocked that Washington (Fremont) beat Kennedy (Fremont) 14-12. Last week Newark destroyed Kennedy 56-9. I can’t believe the MVAL is so down in talent this year, it’s shocking.
October 8th, 2011 at 12:06 am
Yep shocked as well. But it looks like st. Marys played some tough teams in non league.and.have found out what they can do. Hey I still think they can get second in conference even with the loss.
October 8th, 2011 at 12:23 am
Posted to the blog from the SRV at Granada game. 11 scores later, and after ‘stand for the kickoff’ 14 times (1 rekick), I can report that this was a legitimate barn-burner. I am guessing that SRV had 300+ yards in the air, while Granada had 250+ yards on the ground. As blogged, in the end SRV’s no-huddle air attack survived the gutty ground attack of the Matador’s.
October 8th, 2011 at 1:16 am
I think the poll is not too off, I think most of you would agree that football polls done prior or at about the halfway mark have to be fluid, in other words big changes in the coming weeks based not only on upsets wins, etc, but also by margins of victory. The bottom line with football in the bay area and northern california is this: over 85% of teams (my personal guess) do not have ‘realistic’ lineman. I define ‘realistic’ lineman as players who could ‘realistically’ play lineman on offense or defense in division I, II, III or juco. Most teams have some speed, some skill guys who can make plays in space, even if they are small. But teams like Salesian (Freddie Tagaloa, etc) have that front seven that are true, and worth actaully watching. Nothing is more painful to watch than, as an example, MVAL football. The varsity games are full of the smallest lineman EVER. And I feel bad for the skill guys in those games because when they try to transition to the next level they are in SHOCK because lineman are taller than 5-11 and weigh over 200 lbs. My son play is in 8th grade and stands 6-0 230 lbs. He plays on a youth ‘unlimited’ weight football team and his team lineman are bigger than the starters for many of the MVAL teams at THIRTEEN years old. All the teams with small lineman will LOSE in the playoffs to teams with big lineman. Did any of you watch De La Salle get their FACES smashed off by St. Thomas Aquanias from Florida. It was all line play, nothing more. De La Salles skill guys were a little weaker, but not much. If your high school team has a small line….its not even real football….its little man pretend ball. WHERE IS THE BEEF IN THE BAY AREA????? Get RID OF THE LITTLE LINEMAN PLEASE!!!!!!!
October 8th, 2011 at 1:21 am
the poll is totally correct. Teams with realistic sized lineman are ranked higher then those teams that can only field teams with puny lineman. that is how football works my friends. its won in the trenches, that is how skill guys are allowed to get into space, lineman! Take de la salle on Espn getting SMACKED by the team from florida a couple of weeks ago. that was all line play, the spartans skill guys were weaker, but not that much. salesian has REAL lineman (freddie tagaloa) so any team that plays them is in for a tough game, not saying they will win every time, but its a tough game with real lineman. Take the MVAL (newark, washington, etc.) talk about BORING games, the teams are so small its actually sad. only logan has a couple of guys who ALMOST look like REAL lineman. Bay area and Northern Cali….WHERE IS THE BEEF…WHY ARE YOUR TEAMS SO DAMN SMALL????? My son is in the 8th grade and he plays on a youth team, he is 6-0, 230 lbs. His teammates are HUGE compared to most of the lineman in the bay area…..i reapeat…WHERE IS THE BEEF!!?!?!?!?!?!
October 8th, 2011 at 7:30 am
patrick i dont think CN schedule was tougher than Marin Catholic’s OOC. We all know now VC was a fraud (got curb stomped 41-8 by the Bells w/Marshall playing)and not as good as predicted. MC beat Vacaville who has beaten Granite Bay, Deer Valley, Napa, Valley Christian…so that win is pretty much on par with tie with Palma. Then MC beats St Ignatius who tied Mitty (who beat ST Francis last night) in a game they were winning till end of regulation, that win is better than a win against Concord, VC or Alhambra. MC also beat Berkeley who has won 3 in a row (beat Pitt) who is a better team right now than Concord or Alhambra……so i give a slight edge to MC and put CN a close second….Calpreps even has MC at 24.8 vs 20.2 for schedule strength…..Encinal is at 8.1 b/c CN is scared of them….LOL
October 8th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Rest in peace Al, maybe now my Raiders will play with passion.
October 8th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Notes from the Saturday Morning quarterback chair:
a. Granada is a good football team despite their record with nasty close losses. San Ramon is tough as expected and will battle for 2nd or 3rd place, only chance of beating DLS is a 44-43 shootout. Is Cal high the “Emperor without Clothes” this year? Belicci doing a fantastic job but a way too close call vs. a down Monte Vista team raises eyebrows. Livermore, Amador, Foothill still have destinies unknown the 2nd half of the year.
b. Fortuna BIG win vs. Del Norte is terrible news for east bay schools in their division. When the Tuna is swimming strong up north, that is bad news for teams from this region. Fortuna will win 8 or 9 games at worst after still having to play Eureka and DN again.
c. St. Mary’s large victory over Moreau at Moreau enabled Coach Minor to give the double-finger to his critics and has positioned the Panthers in the drivers seat for a wild card bid. Moreau took a major fall last night, a good team but not great.
d. Pinole IS THE MOST disappointing team in the east bay so far this year. Terrible blowout loss to EC says they are DONE
e. Valley Christain tackles fellow 5 and 0 CSD this week, with three teams in the BFL a combined 15 and 0 counting Salesian
f. Antioch 5 and 0. Nuff said and that is good news for an area that has recently been considered “lost”. Hopefully they get to 8 wins which gets them into the dance
g. Campo, Miramonte, LL and Dublin atop the DFAL. Four great coaches equals bad news for the rest of the League
h. DVAL and HAAL and MVAL have become a shadow of their former selves. These league are in serious trouble, financially and with football demographics lending itself to anti-football sentiments from within the admininstrations. Good for Tennyson but major tremblors are brewing within most of the schools in these two leagues
i. Marin County: MC is great, the rest are average at best.
j. Sonoma County: Windsor is a dominator now and forever and Healdsburg continues to shine.
Look for Freedom, SRV, Encinal to flex their muscles, with a few formerly great teams falling from grace in each League with 8 or 9 losses.
Some teams that lose many games this year will shock people at their drop off the cliff
October 8th, 2011 at 8:55 am
…just win baby.
October 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am
So I am at the Encinal vs Swett game last night and the Jets roll out 30 players deep? Whats happening at the swamp?
The Mini Jets (JV’s) lost to Swett so it looked like coach T raided the lower teams bench.
I started asking around about what was going on and found that the Alameda game took a toll on the Jets via injury most notable John Trodder is banged up and wearing a pretty large brace on his left knee and he seems to have lost a little speed.In limited play he did bust a long run and was in the open field looking to score but the Swett players caught him from behind that does not happen last season.
As through the whole season the Jets where flagged all night blocks in the back, unsportman like and face masks to name a few
The highlight of the night had to be BO Banks going in for an easy touchdown and as he got close to the end Zone started showing off with a lame Deion Sanders imitation and got caught from behind and stripped with Swett recovering the ball.
All that vs. a swett team that suited up 17 players
October 8th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Trodder blew HIS ACL OT LAST SEASON. OBVIOUSLY he has to wear brace. He very well may not be as fast. Where is your Empathy for the kid at Brother. You should be ashamed of yourself.
October 8th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Reggie Hammond I know he injured last season – I also understand the coaching staffs reluctance to let information like that out. Either a his knee still is not 100% or he has other injuries.
I am not in anyway slandering the young man just reporting on the facts.
October 8th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I guess we all look alike to you Bleachercoach. Trodder didn’t get caught from behind. Two of the other underclassmen backs did though. Also 7 sophmores played for the Jets and that facemask call was a 5 yarder. No 15′s otherwise. Looks like our aim is getting better and we’re reloading at the same time.
October 8th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
bleacher coach. 2 quick facts your a novato fan… Encinal is 2 out of 2 against them… your a “marin ” fan too. which is weird thats like being a die hard red sox and yankee fan????. you and “george mantley” which you are by the way lol.. sorry i exposed your mask…. but marin and encinal took 2 out of 3… smh.. you should be ashamed of your self .. if encinal is that bad why do they keep beating your “teams buddy”? .. btw i am sick and tired of talking about Encinal.. How about them dublin, I honestly think there a sleeper for Division 2 ncs
October 8th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Killer D,
Dont even try to hype up Antioch. Anyone can go 5-0 with that out of league schedule. Come on lets get real now! Northgate isn’t as good this year. Neither is mt diablo and Clayton valley, and Gregori AHAHAHA. Yea congratulations on playing the weakest teams in the NCS. They haven’t proved anything so don’t even go their with Antioch. I know your trying to be nice but its really not that great of a schedule.
The problem is when you schedule weak teams you are not helping yourself out..
Antioch and liberty will have rude awakenings
“NUFF SAID”
October 8th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
KillerD,
Boy, Fortuna is not doing too shabby at all, with nice wins vs. DIII Del Norte and fellow DIV power Healdsburg.
Speaking of which, pleased with the ‘Hounds win over well coached Analy. Healdsburg is NOT overlooking the Sonoma Dragons, who are improved this year. Yes, Windsor still very clear fave in SCL.
October 8th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
BVAL Expert,
I think you underestimate Antioch. First of all, I don’t blame a coach trying to rebuild a program for scheduling a soft schedule, especially the year after they go 1-9. But even with that, I think their wins over Clayton Valley and Napa are quality wins. Clayton Valley is a top five D2 team in NCS. Also, Miramonte played them in a late summer scrimmage and out of about 15 teams we scrimmaged, including a couple of D1 teams, they were the only team that moved the ball on us consistently. I don’t think they’ll beat the cream of BVAL or anything like that, hey BVAL is tough this year, but I think they will likely beat Liberty and maybe Heritage.
October 8th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
BleacherCoach I can’t even believe you would drive all the way out to Crocket to watch Encinal play Swett when you live in Novato. Then find a way to hate on them for winning 49-0 lol. Kind of like you did when they beat MC last year. So the paper says Trodder 3-82 with a 72 yard TD run. He didn’t get caught on a 72 yard run did he get caught on a run if 9 yards? WOW.
I also see no point in talking about the Jets for a few weeks until they play St. Mary’s(the 2nd best team in the league) or their last game getting ready for the play-offs.
October 8th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Scoop I don’t think Dublin is a sleeper in D-II but are realy showing the effects of what hiring a good coach can do. They’ll make the play-offs & lose in the 1st round maybbeee 2nd but be way ahead of any realistic plan that a new coach could have for that struggling program.
What the hell happened at Arroyo vs BOD last night? Arroyo’s 2nd game this year they had to eat donuts on Saturday. I don’t want to hear about them being young this year. They wre suppose to be all 10th & 11th graders last year.
October 9th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Bleacher Coach, I hear you think everybody for EHS looks the same. Good, good. Our young pups must be pissing you off. The same way they pissed off AHS and PIEDMONT too huh? You don’t have a clue. Much to look forward to lil buddy. Keep riding MC’s lil strength and conditioning video and falling in love over a glass of wine. You probably tailor Cronins pants too huh? Tell me why Cronin be flooding.
October 9th, 2011 at 8:08 am
BLACKSMITH you should be band from the blogg for hinting at racism very poor form.
October 9th, 2011 at 8:12 am
2 all coaches and coachettes if u r getting ur azz
handed 2 u look in the mirror
dont blame the kids
DONT EAT 2 MANY DONUTS
THEy’RE NOT GOOD FOR UR DIET
how do u go 4 whole quarters without scoring on the 2nd and 3rd strings!!!
HUMBLE PIE NO MORE DONUTS
4 A SMALL FEE ILL FIX UR SHIT!!!!
come come now its week 6
WHEN I SPEAK E.F HUNTON STILL LISTEN
October 9th, 2011 at 8:15 am
BLEACHER COACH
THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON RACISM
let him speak at least u know were he stands
October 9th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Bleacher, Where you get racism from? I’m talking about our plethora of team speed and ball carriers. Well at least we know what you are thinking. Hmmm…
October 10th, 2011 at 2:10 am
OK, I’m not here to defend anybody, but this board has taken a turn for the worst with discussion of racism. Personally, I do not think this is the forum, but I cannot stand by while politically correct (aka “partisanly tolerant” aka “non-repressively tolerant”) and untrue comments are thrown around. Emphatic comment in question: THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON RACISM (translated to intended meaning: “everybody knows that rich white guys built this country on the backs of slaves”). Remember, I am in no way defending the evil practices of racism and/or slavery. I’m just pointing out that they are not unique to this country, and they were actually viewed as evil by many of our founders.
Shall we delve into the past? Just a few points:
1. Racism and slavery have been facts of life for all people in all cultures and societies since man appeared on the scene – long before the USA was even an idea. Example: White Europeans were captured by Arab pirates off the Barbary Coast and sold into slavery to black North Africans centuries ago.
2. Many Africans (some estimate close to 2/3) brought over to the colonies to be indentured servants or slaves were delivered to the slave ships by other Africans; rival tribes that traded their prisoners of war for goods. But actually, the very first Africans brought to America were stolen and sold by Muslim slave-catchers in Africa to Dutch traders journeying to America in 1619. That ship sailed up the James River, thus introducing slavery into America. However, when the first slave ship to arrive in the Massachusetts Colony, set up by Christian pilgrims and puritans, landed the ship’s officers were arrested and imprisoned and the kidnapped Africans were returned to Africa at the Colony’s expense.
3. Originally, Africans brought over to the colonies were not slaves, properly defined. They were indentured servants and were often released after a set period of time. Many fortunate indentured servants even received land and equipment after their work contracts expired. This was such the case with Anthony Johnson, a black indentured servant in Virginia who was freed and went on to become the owner of this country’s first official slave – another black man – John Casor.
I’m going to shorten these facts from here on out – I don’t have time to explain everything. All that I have said, and will say, can be researched. I encourage you all to do so. In fact, there’s a fantastic book on the subject entitled “Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White”. Look it up. And please remember, I’m not here to defend racism or slavery. I’m just trying to show that it’s not such a black and white (literally) issue, and it is simply not the case that the United States was founded 100% by “white devils”, despite the opinions being peddled in the classroom these days. Let’s continue:
4. Blacks fought along-side whites in the War of Independence and were able to earn their freedom for doing so. Some examples of black patriots include James Armistead, Peter Salem, Prince Whipple and Oliver Cromwell (research them! these men heroes!)
5. Most signers of the Declaration of Independence were not actually slave owners. There were 56 of them, and only a few were. Anti-slavery signers included Samuel Adams, Stephen Hopkins, Benjamin Rush (who helped establish this country’s first Abolitionist Society in 1775 along with…), Benjamin Franklin. Others include Elbridge Gerry, James Wilson, John Adams, Roger Sherman, and John Witherspoon. Just to name a few…
6. Speaking of founding documents, remember that old Three-Fifths Clause in the US Constitution that’s cited so often as an example of early institutionalized racism? Well Frederick Douglas concluded, after reading it, that it was not a pro-slavery, but an anti-slavery document: “I became convinced that the Constitution of the United States non only contained no guarantees in favor of slavery but, on the contrary, it is in its letter and spirit an anti-slavery instrument, demanding the abolition of slavery as a condition of its own existence as the supreme law of the land.” Did he miss the 3/5ths Clause?! No, he saw its true intention, as drafted by Northern anti-slavery advocates, as it dealt with the representation and not the worth of any individual. The Southern states wanted to count their slave populations to increase vote representation in Congress, and thus strengthen pro-slavery influence in the forming country. The anti-slavery founders saw right through this, not allowing the slave-owners to treat slaves as property but count them as citizens (having their cake and eating it to). They understood that the fewer pro-slavery representatives allowed in Congress, the sooner slavery could be eradicated from the nation. Gouverneur Morris, a signer of the Constitution and strong opponent of slavery argued: “The admission of slaves into the representation comes to this – that the inhabitant of Georgia and South Carolina who goes to the coast of Africa and – in defiance of the most sacred laws of humanity – tears away his fellow creatures from their dearest connections and damns them to the most cruel bondage, shall have more votes in a government instituted for protection of the rights of mankind than the citizen of Pennsylvania or New Jersey who views with a laudable horror so nefarious a practice.” I could go on and on about this, but the point is that the 3/5ths Clause was an anti-slavery provision designed to limit the number of pro-slavery representatives in Congress.
7. Do you know the first country to eliminate the practice of slavery amongst its people? Drum-roll please…. England. The second? The United States! And do you know what these crazy cats did? They went sailing around the Atlantic bilaterally ending the slave trade by force.
8. As I’ve said, every culture/society has had slavery. But do you know the quickest country to eliminate it? The USA! From our official founding in 1776 to the end of the Civil War in 1865 (less than 100 years) it was defeated. The institution of slavery was under attack from the very inception of this country.
Well, I guess I didn’t shorten my explanations too much there. Have to get the point across you see. Again, I could go on and on with examples, but there’s no time and I’d rather those of the same mindset as Chalktalk do the historical research and discover for themselves. And keep in mind, a practice like slavery, even if it takes a war, is still easier to eliminate than a prejudicial mindset like racism. This is why the former is no more, and the latter persists. Let’s keep working to make sure men are judged not “by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” And let’s lay off the racism charges. This is only high school football, after all…
October 10th, 2011 at 10:55 am
EBfootball, why did Encinal play 7 sophomores? Do they really have that many on the varsity squad? Why do people keep saying Encinal hasn’t been playing very good when they are blowing teams out and aost beat Serra? I haven’t seen them play since Serra but they looked darn good against the big boys except there running game looked a little weak but other than that they looked good. With 7 sophomores playing I’d say that’s good
October 10th, 2011 at 11:39 am
@mandown
Probably because it was John Swett week. If there was ever a team that needed to be in the BFL it’s them. New coach every year there it seems like. But i guess thats why nobody’s fighting for them to do that.