- East Bay Prep Corner
East Bay prep football recap: More upsets this week
By Jon Becker
Saturday, October 22nd, 2011 at 3:07 am in Football, Uncategorized.
Wins by Deer Valley High and Campolindo continued the recent trend of upsets among the East Bay’s top 10 ranked teams.
However, we also had the customary victories by highly touted teams such as top-ranked De La Salle, James Logan and San Ramon Valley.
Here’s the link to our weekly prep football recap, where you’ll find links to stories on each game played on Friday night, plus a slideshow of photos from the games.
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October 22nd, 2011 at 10:57 am
how about drew for Livermore almost leading the upset against cal? he is the real deal.
October 22nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
O’Dowd 56 Mt.Eden 0.Could have been 90 to 0.I wonder if Perenon thought with his brillant x and o’s that it was going to be close.Probably.Then again it just goes to show any coach with an inflated opinion of himself what happens when you no longer have the haves and you now have the nots.Just sayin.:]
October 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
@ Hoops:
Would you have been more satisfied if the score was 90-0? Probably.
Knowing Coach P, he is a realist and was well aware that his Mt Eden team would have to catch BOD flat and that Mt Eden would have to be near perfect, playing their best football, to be in the game. Unfortunately, ME did not play as well as I saw them play vs Tennyson and BOD was the better team.
If Coach P has, as you say, an inflated opinion of himself, I would suggest that his body of work while at BOD would give speak to confidence and success. Let’s not lose sight of what he did accomplish there, taking a program that had not really done a thing prior to him being the head coach. He assembled a great staff that remained loyal with him for 20+ years. He won and while doing so he attracted some great kids to come to O’Dowd to get an education AND play football there. He had the guts to stand up for kids to be able to play more than one sport (most specifically football and basketball). He continually advocated for multiple sport athletes and openly questioned the administration about the correctness of placing restraints on kids who wanted to be involved in multiple sports.
I know he is happy with the challenge of rebuilding the mt Eden program. He knows it will be a challenging process with setbacks along the way. But if it was easy anybody could do it.
Maybe that is why you blog instead of appreciating what a man like Coach P did for BOD and now is trying to do at Mt Eden.
(Just asking: Hoops, does your blog name in any way link you to the anti football-basketball athletes at BOD? If so, I fully comprehend the context of your post and your dig at Coach P.)
October 22nd, 2011 at 2:50 pm
The campo gmae was no surprise to me, so i am not sure why it is being considered an upset? On the other hand the most surpriseing game to me friday night was Castro Valley beating Arroyo 41-14. I did not expect that at all!
And why are we talking about BOD and Mt. eden, everyone including coach P knows they are no where close to competing with that BOD squad or any other winning team in that league, they are starting from scratch so U cant expect that much from them. no matter who is coaching them.
October 22nd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
If Perenon and Nickerson were given teams of equal talent, then Nickerson would lose both on and off the field. Nickerson is a phony. He was the wrong choice to take over for Coach P. O’Dowd needs to bring Coach P back and do things the right way. I bleed black & gold, but it’s not for the current coach. It’s for Coach Perenon, who gave my team everything we needed and then some. Until they get rid of Nickerson, I will be checking the prep scores on Friday nights to pull for Coach P. Go Monarchs!
October 22nd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
I agree the upset with Arroyo was surprise. They look very unorganized and skeptical. There are not consistent. No doubt they have talent and potential but they have no discipline. Also I went to their game against San Lorenzo and they almost have more players on the field then the sidelines. Their finish will be interesting.
October 22nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
CV is better than people think. They came closer to beating BOD than Arroyo did. I am not sure why people consider it an upset.
October 22nd, 2011 at 6:43 pm
@ Teehee
Very good post. I agree that CV is better than some think. Solid schemes. Very good young coach who works very hard and stands for what is right in high school sports. Not an upset at all vs Arroyo!
October 22nd, 2011 at 9:20 pm
Well it is an upset, not too many people wud consider Arroyo beating CV as an upset based on paper so that’s what I meant. And how they played BOD doesn’t matter. Scrutiny game is different
October 22nd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Every game is different, my bad
October 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Ya but Arroyo is not a good team.. CV is decent
October 22nd, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Well if peronon comes back i want the rock back coach rochlin part of the ambush on him was he didnt prepare kids and thats why they got injured well from what i saw friday guys are still getting beat up now who’s to blame kemper? 2-6 thank god for de anza and hercules! Bring back the rock he coulda went 4-6! Another 40pt game put on alameda d wonder if there will be changes? Shoulda keep #13 on var dont know why he got sent down he’s by far there best underclassmen reciever
October 23rd, 2011 at 2:15 am
I have two upsets The McClymonds Warriors beat Skyline High 41-13 I didn’t see that coming since Mack is coached by that phony Coach Mac and my Pittsburg Pirates lost to Deer Valley 21-20. There is know way that should have happen Pitt blew that cause I was there. And I do agree Castro Valley beating Arroyo was an upset as well. Also Coach Mac I see in the paper your offense bailed you out again! What about those 500 yards you gave up vs Salesian?? Go Pirates
October 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 am
@ Wolfman
You really don’t like Coach Mac, do you? Well to each his own I have my fair share of dislikes also, but MACK has a good core of athletes. Eddie Heard and Lovell Samuels have been in many big game battles in the past. Salesian won the game through the battle of attrition. Mack simply ran out of gas. MACK should win the OAL.
October 23rd, 2011 at 11:05 am
Miraman what happened? No team getting blown out by 42pts with a running clock in 4th qtr will beat the jets. You got your hands full with dublin next week on paper you should win but wade is a better coach than schram so who knows. I guess i was wrong about the hornets i guess lemon is right moyer has been in charge since ’07 cause nothing has changed over there.
October 23rd, 2011 at 11:09 am
EBFBFAN
peronon looked real classy out there. maybe he needs to take a coaching class coaching has passed COACH P and coaches like him by by HOMIE
he cant reach the kids the crap about scaring the kids doesnt work these kids arent scared
SOMEBODY CALL 911 peronon IS DONE
C HOW THAT RHYMES
BUT HE IS STILL A GOOD DUDE
October 23rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
can tim tebeo win
cuz he classy and has good leadership
HELL NO
October 23rd, 2011 at 11:58 am
T-E-B-O-W
October 23rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
well he did chalk talk, Again your wrong and i cant wait till o Dowd gets another first/second round elimination
October 23rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Chalktalk,
It is tebow and Perenon. I do not believe you graduated from bod because when you write it makes no sense.
October 23rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
What a surprise Campo has been. Miramonte is not a elite team after getting whooped like that against them. Like I said you slow down Anderson then you have a great chance on winning the game.
Pitt always seems to let you down. I know Deer Valley is a solid team but Pitt is supposed be to a step higher than them. Why can’t Galil dominate with the numbers and athletes they have? Thank you Antioch for letting us know that your non-league is why you guys were racking up those wins. Playing against quality opponents and all the sudden I see loses.
Livermore? Cal almost loses to Limvermore? Las Lomas slides by against Dublin? Wow!
What’s the deal with San Leandro? They lose to Tennyson then beat Hayward?
October 23rd, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Hayward is not that good.. Tennyson might even beat Hayward
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Having been on the Castro Valley sideline a lot this year, I can tell you that the Trojans are getting more confident. I think they could win out. What really hurts them is that game against Newark that they were leading and had wiped out. CV also has some really talented juniors like Patrick Cheek and Nick Lima. Nic and the coaches are doing good things at Castro Valley. I thought the CV defensive backs did a great job as all Arroyo could do was throw short passes.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:27 pm
I guess the HAAL is as bad as we think it is. BOD is much better than all the rest of the teams and personally I don’t think they are all that great. I think they’re solid and HC Nickerson is doing a okay job but I’m not very impressed.
Worst Leagues IMO:
1. BFL
2. OAL
3. BSAL
4. ACCAL
5. HAAL
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
ManDown & Dudleydawson,
Miramonte got beat and got beat good! I’m not about to talk smack about that. Like any team that loses, we have to get it together. Dublin will be a tough game and we also have a tough Alhambra game after that. How the kids will respond after a loss like that is anyone’s guess. If we are able to regroup, we should go into NCS with alot of momentum. A couple of quick notes:
Campo is an excellent team. They have the best QB I have seen in DFAL. They have the best DBs in DFAL. They are well coached so everyone else is pretty good as well. I think a team with a pounding running game and strong pass rush (Marin Catholic, BOD, Novato?) can beat them. I’d say Campo is a semi-final quality team.
Wade vs Schram. I’ll take Schram. I don’t have anything particular bad to say about Wade, but I just don’t think he is as good of a coach as Scram. I’d put it this way, if Dublin goes 6-4, as I think they will, most will say he’s leading some sort of surge in the program. I would say given the talent he took over, they should have won DFAL. In any case, if Wade can continue to build at Dublin then his reputation is well deserved, but I think this year he hasn’t proven anything.
I would still welcome a game with Encinal. Still not impressed with what they’ve accomplished this year. Still don’t think they’re as good as last year. They are certainly taking care of business, and it not their fault the league is weak, but we just won’t know until NCS tourney.
October 23rd, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Mira-man, After What happened to your team this week I’d think you’d stay off the Encinal Subject.. And Don’t you think Joe T. Would love to play against his Old Coach? My Money (So to Speak is always on the Jets! Jet Pride!
October 23rd, 2011 at 9:29 pm
miraman losing to campo pretty much makes you guys a 5 seed at best in ncs so that means youll be playing a pretty solid team n second rnd not analy or san marin those cupcakes you got last year. I thought you’d beat campo but i know you guys cant beat encinal cardinal newman or marin catholic. Miramonte no longer on that level this aint ncs 2a east bay when they were dfal rematches.
October 24th, 2011 at 8:44 am
EC could be a surprise team this year in D-3 playoffs. They seem like a solid team this year. They could get a high seed if the win out but the tie against Newark is going to hurt them. They have a bunch of athletes down there that are scary athletic. Not saying they wil get to far because I don’t know how good there scheme is in order to beat the top teams but they can possibly upset a team.
October 24th, 2011 at 9:33 am
ManDown – i think the mval has to be on ur list somewhere. So far Logan has beat American 69-7, Mission 63-0 ( which they scored 63 in the first half), and Irvington 63-0. And I don’t see Newark, Kennedy, or Washington giving them any kind of challenge. Unless Logan is just that much dominant I would have to put the MVAL on ur list. I know logan is loaded with talent but that other teams just do not show up to play at all.
October 24th, 2011 at 9:38 am
to be exact I would probably replace it with the HAAL for the #5 spot.
October 24th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Mandown el cerrito has athletes everyear there having a good year but tying newark raises red flags for me & losing at home to campo who are good but dont have the athletes to keep up with e.c but they did has to be a concern. They win out i see a 5 or 6 seed. If all teams win out ncs d3 1-marin 2-cnewman 3-campo 4-encinal 5-el cerrito 6-bod 7-miramonte but if campo loses to las lomas flip them with encinal also if e.c loses to bhigh they could drop to 7
October 24th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Dudleydawson, You are correct about EC. I am not a firm beliver but they have seem to hit stride the past few weeks and with B-High as the last game of the season they will be ready for playoffs after playing a “Quality” opponent. Not saying EC will do much but I think they could possibly sneak a game or two in the playoffs.
Is it true that CN lost the starting QB for the year with a broken leg? If so that would be a crushing blow but they still have a few weeks untill the tourney to figure it out at QB.
October 24th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Coach K, You’re right about the MVAL. I totally forgot about them.
October 24th, 2011 at 11:43 am
How is BFL the worst league when we have 2010 div. 4 champion in Salesian???
The top 4 teams in the league have beaten teams in various leagues. Currently, the top 4 teams have a 24-4 record! Jeez, do your homework first before making random guesses!
Yes, BFL’s credibility has been hurt by St. Eliz and Emery but BFL is not the number 1 worst league on the list.
October 24th, 2011 at 11:46 am
CN lost their QB for the season, broken fibula. They still have Rancho Cotati for the league championship. They lost last year to RC and had to travel to BOD and Miramonte. Might have to do the same this to either Encinal, BOD, or Campo. If EC can beat Berkeley they would become another DIV III league champion. Same goes for Eureka if they can beat Fortuna. Encinal is getting a bad rap in calpreps because of their weak schedule (no team in the top ten thousand except Serra), but don’t count them out. Lots of FB left to play, the playoffs are going to be great.
From Calpreps:
1 Marin Catholic (Kentfield, CA) 8-0 5-0 (1st) 4-0 42.3 13.4 29-28-1
WINS: #459 Vacaville (CA) (33-29), #1946 St. Ignatius (San Francisco, CA) (28-26), #2650 Novato (CA) (41-6), #3186 Berkeley (CA) (35-27), #5201 Tamalpais (Mill Valley, CA) (41-0), #5814 San Marin (Novato, CA) (45-23), #7893 Terra Linda (San Rafael, CA) (41-21), #13055 San Rafael (CA) (52-0), LOSSES: none
2 Cardinal Newman (Santa Rosa, CA) 6-0-1 3-0 (t 1st) 1-0 40.6 16.2 25-24-1
WINS: #1572 Valley Christian (San Jose, CA) (35-28), #2243 Concord (CA) (35-6), #5695 Montgomery (Santa Rosa, CA) (41-34), #6206 Ukiah (CA) (31-3), #7367 Carrillo [Maria] (Santa Rosa, CA) (50-7), #7501 Alhambra (Martinez, CA) (34-7), LOSSES: none, TIES: #856 Palma (Salinas, CA) (10-10)
3 Campolindo (Moraga, CA) 8-0 4-0 (1st) 4-0 35.5 5.3 29-28-1
WINS: #2655 Miramonte (Orinda, CA) (42-6), #4343 El Cerrito (CA) (16-13), #5055 Dublin (CA) (42-13), #5347 Acalanes (Lafayette, CA) (42-7), #5724 Dougherty Valley (San Ramon, CA) (38-21), #7631 Moreau Catholic (Hayward, CA) (37-14), #11201 Ygnacio Valley (Concord, CA) (49-7), #11345 St. Patrick/St. Vincent (Vallejo, CA) (55-20), LOSSES: none
4 Novato (CA) 5-2 3-1 (2nd) 4-1 23 11.3 25-26
WINS: #3538 Eureka (CA) (28-7), #7451 Drake [Sir Francis] (San Anselmo, CA) (52-21), #7893 Terra Linda (San Rafael, CA) (41-0), #8331 Redwood (Larkspur, CA) (48-0), #10708 Petaluma (CA) (21-7), LOSSES: #443 Marin Catholic (Kentfield, CA) (41-6), #1950 Foothill (Pleasanton, CA) (26-16)
5 Miramonte (Orinda, CA) 7-1 3-1 (2nd) 3-1 23 9.7 31-27
WINS: #2886 Las Lomas (Walnut Creek, CA) (33-28), #5017 Analy (Sebastopol, CA) (36-35), #5347 Acalanes (Lafayette, CA) (24-14), #5724 Dougherty Valley (San Ramon, CA) (29-14), #6131 Liberty (Brentwood, CA) (26-17), #9392 Kennedy [John F.] (Richmond, CA) (42-22), #11035 Fremont (Oakland, CA) (30-0), LOSSES: #944 Campolindo (Moraga, CA) (42-6)
6 Bishop O’Dowd (Oakland, CA) 5-2 4-0 (1st) 1-0 22.5 8.8 23-25-1
WINS: #5664 Castro Valley (CA) (36-17), #5866 Enochs [James C.] (Modesto, CA) (41-40), #5980 Tennyson (Hayward, CA) (42-19), #7954 Arroyo (San Lorenzo, CA) (40-0), #12935 Mt. Eden (Hayward, CA) (56-0), LOSSES: #1182 Franklin (Elk Grove, CA) (42-26), #1946 St. Ignatius (San Francisco, CA) (35-20)
7 Eureka (CA) 5-2 2-0 (2nd) 2-1 18.5 2.7 26-26
WINS: #3719 Shasta (Redding, CA) (18-13), #4741 Del Norte (Crescent City, CA) (35-12), #11242 McKinleyville (CA) (69-20), #11448 Piner (Santa Rosa, CA) (48-7), #13515 Oakland (CA) (62-20), LOSSES: #2360 Sutter (CA) (14-7), #2650 Novato (CA) (28-7)
8 Encinal (Alameda, CA) 6-1 4-0 (t 1st) 1-0 16.5 -9.1 16-34
WINS: #10016 Piedmont (CA) (40-6), #10198 Hayward (CA) (27-0), #10630 Alameda (CA) (45-41), #11345 St. Patrick/St. Vincent (Vallejo, CA) (43-0), #13473 Albany (CA) (72-14), #13864 Swett [John] (Crockett, CA) (49-0), LOSSES: #482 Serra [Junipero] (San Mateo, CA) (34-28)
9 El Cerrito (CA) 5-1-1 3-0 (t 1st) 1-1 14.9 -6.5 18-33-1
WINS: #8300 Pinole Valley (Pinole, CA) (42-7), #10630 Alameda (CA) (42-14), #10708 Petaluma (CA) (21-0), #13493 San Lorenzo (CA) (55-6), #14022 Richmond (CA) (58-6), LOSSES: #944 Campolindo (Moraga, CA) (16-13), TIES: #6220 Newark Memorial (Newark, CA) (14-14)
10 Del Norte (Crescent City, CA) 5-2 2-2 (3rd) 0-1 13.1 3 28-24
WINS: #3239 Ferndale (CA) (20-16), #8706 Arcata (CA) (33-12), #9070 Brookings-Harbor (Brookings, OR) (52-8), #11242 McKinleyville (CA) (42-0), #12399 Hidden Valley (Grants Pass, OR) (60-7), LOSSES: #2574 Fortuna (CA) (55-28), #3538 Eureka (CA) (35-12)
11 Analy (Sebastopol, CA) 4-4 1-3 (6th) 1-1 11.9 9.3 37-22
WINS: #5814 San Marin (Novato, CA) (22-3), #8608 El Molino (Forestville, CA) (38-0), #10234 Santa Rosa (CA) (55-13), #12344 Balboa (San Francisco, CA) (63-14), LOSSES: #651 Windsor (CA) (36-13), #2655 Miramonte (Orinda, CA) (36-35), #2938 Healdsburg (CA) (47-20), #4565 Casa Grande (Petaluma, CA) (10-9)
12 Tamalpais (Mill Valley, CA) 5-3 3-2 (3rd) 3-1 11.1 4.2 33-25
WINS: #5814 San Marin (Novato, CA) (13-6), #6298 Sonoma Valley (Sonoma, CA) (14-10), #7451 Drake [Sir Francis] (San Anselmo, CA) (42-7), #8331 Redwood (Larkspur, CA) (17-14), #11450 Lincoln [Abraham] (San Francisco, CA) (34-8), LOSSES: #443 Marin Catholic (Kentfield, CA) (41-0), #6962 Justin-Siena (Napa, CA) (34-31), #11345 St. Patrick/St. Vincent (Vallejo, CA) (21-7)
13 Acalanes (Lafayette, CA) 4-4 2-2 (4th) 2-3 10.5 10.7 34-24
WINS: #5724 Dougherty Valley (San Ramon, CA) (28-14), #7501 Alhambra (Martinez, CA) (28-27), #8143 Skyline (Oakland, CA) (28-21), #11201 Ygnacio Valley (Concord, CA) (49-0), LOSSES: #944 Campolindo (Moraga, CA) (42-7), #2655 Miramonte (Orinda, CA) (24-14), #2938 Healdsburg (CA) (8-7), #5814 San Marin (Novato, CA) (13-10)
14 San Marin (Novato, CA) 4-3 2-2 (t 4th) 2-3 8.6 5 26-27
WINS: #5347 Acalanes (Lafayette, CA) (13-10), #7893 Terra Linda (San Rafael, CA) (28-24), #11450 Lincoln [Abraham] (San Francisco, CA) (41-0), #13055 San Rafael (CA) (42-7), LOSSES: #443 Marin Catholic (Kentfield, CA) (45-23), #5017 Analy (Sebastopol, CA) (22-3), #5201 Tamalpais (Mill Valley, CA) (13-6)
15 Tennyson (Hayward, CA) 6-1 3-1 (t 2nd) 1-1 7.9 -11.7 15-32-1
WINS: #4322 San Leandro (CA) (31-21), #11549 King City (CA) (45-13), #12640 Mt. Diablo (Concord, CA) (46-7), #12935 Mt. Eden (Hayward, CA) (45-26), #13154 De Anza (Richmond, CA) (55-7), #13493 San Lorenzo (CA) (31-7), LOSSES: #2738 Bishop O’Dowd (Oakland, CA) (42-19)
16 Sonoma Valley (Sonoma, CA) 4-3 1-2 (5th) 2-1 6.7 6.2 29-23
WINS: #7893 Terra Linda (San Rafael, CA) (21-17), #8151 American Canyon (CA) (42-28), #8608 El Molino (Forestville, CA) (28-21), #13166 Allen [Elsie] (Santa Rosa, CA) (37-22), LOSSES: #651 Windsor (CA) (53-7), #2938 Healdsburg (CA) (17-13), #5201 Tamalpais (Mill Valley, CA) (14-10)
October 24th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
CSD, You can’t be serious right now? So what about 2010 D-4 champs…. The BSAL had Runner up Encinal, the OAL had silver bowl champs Mack who beat Salesian last year, ACCAL had semi finals PV and it all means nothing. The teams in the BFL besides Salesian have only gotten wins against terrible teams. The record of the teams besides Salesian are a lie and don’t reflect how weak you guys really are. Come on now do you guys even play teams in the East Bay? Like I said the BFL is the worst league in the area.
October 24th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Wow,
You want to call BFL the weakest while we have the smallest number of enrollment compared to the rest of the leagues. But, the top 4 teams has beaten a wide variety of leagues including Mack in OAL this year.
Our league has beaten
Bay Shore League-4 times
NC 1- 4 times
NC 2
Tri-county (sac)
Academic
OAK
Sierra Delta (Sac)
MVAL
Golden Empire (sac)
Arrow head (Southern Calif)
Penisula Lake
Diablo Foothill
Penisula Ocean
Here’s my ranks
1- MVAL (Logan is saving their face)
2- BSAL (Encinal is respected)
3- OAK (Salesian 48- Mack 21 Enough Said)
4- BFL (am a realist, Emery and St.Eliz doesn’t help)
5- ACCL (huge talent gap in top and lower teams)
6- HAAL (Surprising Tennyson helps)
7- Whatever league ManDown is rooting for.
October 24th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
ManDown,
I agree with CSD. BSL has the defending D4 champion, undefeated this year, Valley Christion with wins over D2 Doughety Valley and Sequoia, a respectable Berean Christian team. CSD is pretty good…I mean they are D5! One of their weak teams is Emery, an expansion team. They are also all D4 and D5 teams!!
On the othe hand, ACCAL while weaker this year, has Berkeley (OK, not great), El Cerrito (I agree with your comments that they are pretty good), Pinole Valley (much weaker, but still not a bad team), and Hercules (bottom feader, but still much improved and dangerous to anyone that overlooks them).
I would say its more like:
1. OAL (worst)
2. BSAL (Encinal can’t make up for the weak team average)
3. HAAL (BOD is the only truly good team and they are barely top 5 in D3)
4. MVAL (Logan is good, everyone else is pretty weak)
5. ACCAL (pretty much a tie with MVAL, but think their average team is better than the four leagues above).
BFAL would be next, but I think their pretty respectable given the size of team in their league.
October 24th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Well, I guess I should chime in to defend the BFL. However, we might just be the crummiest one. Salesian has basically been on a month long sabbatical. Last real game was in late Sept vs. Mack. Since then a bye, a 68-0 slaughter by the backups against Emeryville, then the St. Liz forfeit. Now VC goes out and blows the upcoming matchup of unbeatens by getting killed at BC (by the way VC Fan, we’re probably as bummed about that game as you are).
The Pride has an awesome team but is dropping like a rock in the power ratings now that the league season has kicked in. Went from high thirties down to 29 basically without playing a game. Now ranked lower than last year despite basically having the same team, only now the kids are all seniors.
Yes, the coach apparently passed on putting the team in the DIII tourney, very disappointing, but it’s really the horrible league that holds the team back. Which remindes me – this week Emery hosts St. Liz. This game should be the inspiration to form one of those 8 man leagues like they have out in the boonies.
October 24th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
The NCS division 3 playoffs should be awesome! The other D3 teams shouldn’t get too giddy over Cardinal Newman losing their QB – the back-up (also a senior) is bigger, faster, stronger, and has a better arm than the starter. Really unfortunate injury for the young man, who was a true “gamer”, but Coach Cronin will now have 4 games to get the backup playoff ready before they face any team of consequence. They are still the prohibitive 1 seed, with the deepest, most talented D3 roster in Northern California.
By the way, the CalPreps ratings seem to have Encinal severely under rated and Novato overrated. Time will tell – expect at least two upsets in the first round of the D3 Playoffs!
October 24th, 2011 at 10:14 pm
Easstbay Ray why do you say Novato is overrated? Have you watched even a quarter of one of their games.?Probably not.
I am not saying they are the power house of the 06-08 teams but they are a solid team and could very well make it to the semis depending on the seedings.
The one thing that drives me crazy on this blogg is the amount of people who comment on teams they have never seen. I catch 2-3 full games every weekend and try to report the facts of the game on the field not some made up opion about a team I haven’t seen some of you guys should try that
October 24th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
@Everybody,
Let’s be real about ranking the leagues. No league except EBAL can boast top to bottom depth. Even the WCAL has Riordan and St. Ignatius…
There is ZERO difference between Salesian vs. Emery, Mack vs. Oakland High, Logan vs. Mission San Jose, Berkeley vs. De Anza, or Encinal vs. John Swett. Seriously the competitive balance in leagues suck and I’m bored with them. Pre-season matches between leagues are the only great part of the year until playoffs and if you think otherwise you’re lying to yourself. Sometimes it looks like DLS can’t even get excited to play between preseason and playoffs and EBAL’s last place squad would threaten in every other league. Realignment? “Can’t wait!”
October 24th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
POST#41 Smh Bleacher coach I am a big novato and I can tell you there not over rated, But have you ever heard that phrase it takes one to know one? Well thats you , you do the same exact thing that you stated, \ on East bay teams always hating on them without ever seeing more than 2-3 games, but you are sitting here and backing up MARIN, but your a Big novato fan. I would have 10x more respect for you if you just stick with either MC or novato you can’t be BOTH these biggest fans. And not ALways back CN marin and Novato on every argument ,You only Back up MARIN COUNTY Teams, Though I DO give you props at the same time staying loyal to your soil.,But still you can’t be the biggest fan or one of the MOST HEATED RIVALS in the BAY area.
October 24th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Also I agree with CSD ONE HUNDRED PERCENT POST #37
October 24th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
*DISAGREE MVAL WORST LEAUGE YOU SERIOUS? BUt good Points on some other things cant really hate that much
October 25th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Just go to Calpreps and click on ‘Compare Leagues’ for NCS. Here is how calpreps sees it:
1 East Bay North Coast 16-8 3-5 13-8 31.6 22.9
2 Bay Valley North Coast 20-11 0-5 14-11 23.2 14.7
3 Diablo Foothill North Coast 22-6 0-1 7-6 16.5 2.2
4 Sonoma County North Coast 18-10 0-0 5-8 11.3 3.3
5 North Bay North Coast 11-14-1 0-4-1 3-13-1 8.1 11.7
6 Marin County North Coast 18-10 1-0 6-5 7.8 0.7
7 Humboldt-Del Norte – Big 5 North Coast 12-5 0-0 3-4 6.9 -4.2
8 Diablo Valley North Coast 10-20 0-4 2-16 1 10.6
9 Mission Valley North Coast 10-15-1 0-2 3-10-1 -1 4.7
10 Hayward Area North Coast 8-14 0-4 2-10 -1.2 7.1
11 Humboldt-Del Norte – Little 4 North Coast 12-4 0-0 2-1 -2.8 -16.9
12 Alameda Contra Costa North Coast 11-15-1 0-3 1-9-1 -6.5 -5.4
13 Bay Shore North Coast 6-18 0-3 1-12 -8.7 4.9
14 Bay Football North Coast 18-12 0-0 3-2 -10.2 -16.6
15 North Central I North Coast 8-16 0-0 0-6 -16.8 -8.8
16 North Central II North Coast 7-9 0-0 0-2 -18.1 -12.7
October 25th, 2011 at 6:42 am
With a calpreps average rating of -12.4 OAL would be 14.5 if added into NCS:
1 Oakland Oakland 7-20 0-0 0-15 -12.4 2.5
As a league OAL is 0-15 against teams ranked in the top 7000.
October 25th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Hey BleacherCoach – don’t get your panties in a bunch now! It was just an opinion. NorCalPreps, who watches these games for a living, doesn’t have Novato in their top 17 in Norcal D3, so I am not the only “fool” out there. And, you are absolutely right – Novato could very well surprise some people (which was the point of my post by the way, if you reread it again without your Marin-colored glasses!). I still think the big 3 (CN,MC, Encinal) are a notch above the rest, but there are a number of teams below them that could knock them off (like maybe Novato!). That’s the beauty of the playoff system -should be fun!
October 25th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Hey pooper scooper when I say 2-3 games that is per weekend and I catch the eastbay games on Friday nights. For your FYI I have watched all but 2 of Encinals games this season. I missed the Alameda game and chose to go watch Mira vs. Campo instead of a seeing bad Albany team get crushed.
This is the last season of the Jets playing in a D IV league it should be interesting going forward for the BSAL, BFL and HAAL the super league as they are calling it with be a little tougher to win 4 years straight
October 25th, 2011 at 10:47 am
BleacherCoach, If Encinal was still in the ACCAL do you think they still would have won league the past 4 seasons?
October 25th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Agree with #42-
Realignment needs to happens ASAP. Perhaps make a new league with just the private school so Public schools can have a fair chance in league play? Just a thought…
October 25th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Mandown they win in 2008 hands down and probably 2009. I think Pinole beats them in 2010 they had 2 common opp. in Alameda and El Cerrito the margins of victory where pretty close but Pinole had the edg
October 25th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Mandown I did not go back to 2007 because they where in the ACCAL and did not win it.
October 25th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
How good is valley christian??How would they do if they were in the EBAL?Would they win a game?I know they are real serious about their fb program.Anybody know that is not biased??Thanks
October 25th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
BleacherCoach, I think ’08, ’09, and maybe this year but not in 2010 against PV. No way they can contain Lewis and score the points needed to win against that defense.
How do you feel about Campo after watching that game? Miramonte? Do you think they have a good chance against the top three teams in D-3?
October 25th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Valley Christian is a solid program, but it is still pretty hard to tell just how good they are. They got it handed to them by Berean this week and only beat Dougherty Valley 14-9 so it might be a stretch to think they could compete in the EBAL, but this week’s matchup with Salesian could show us something.
October 25th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Mandown I wasn’t so high on MC in the beginning of the season mainly because of the coaching. I really feel the coaching cost MC the game last year vs the Jets by using the two QB system. Then they started the season that way and it wasn’t good.
Sure it must of been hard to sit Tewhill as the starting QB but Goff is the real deal. Since game 3 Goff has taken all the snaps at QB and has put up huge numbers read this.
http://blogs.marinij.com/prepsports/
With that said I think MC is the team to beat and not CN.
I cannot see Campo containing MC in the air or CN on the ground. As far as the Jets it all depends what team shows up. if the the team that played Serra shows up there is no chance for Campo if the team that played Alameda shows up then there could be an upset.
The one thing I noticed about Encinal after the Alameda game was the amount of JV call ups. I counted 30 suited up on the Jet side lines when they played Swett and St. Pats. NO one who follows the Jets will talk about it but I am wondering if the Jets are having an injury issue or my guess a grades problem.
October 25th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Bleacher Coach, Just to let you know. We have the same kids playing that started the season. Yes their were a couple of JV call-ups but there is no injury or grades problem. Jet Pride!
October 25th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
The top 3 teams in d3 are real tough and some of the other teams also but don’t be surprised by ec they do have a lot of athletes more this year than in the past strong defense but a bad scheme offensively for the amount of athletes they have but most of them are sophmores and juniors they are still young and they like to turn it on and off which you cant do in the playoffs.they came closest to beating campo than anybody as at one point were leading 13-0 and had several scoring oppotunities in the red zone throughout that game they seem to shoot themselves in the foot alot.They do have a huge game with bhigh in 2 weeks and right now seem a step or 2 below bhigh but should be a real good game.don’t sleep on ec they win at least 1st and 2nd game in playoffs and scare the heck out of a team in 3rd round before bowing out.Look out for them in next 2 years.
October 27th, 2011 at 2:52 am
didnt think campo was go beat the brakes off of miramonte, thought it would b a close down to the last second game.
i was more surprised that cv beat arroyo that bad, very hard working coach at cv
mac should win the oal but who cares, league is horrible now. yeah wolfman really dont like coach mac, but mack isnt too bad got some talent again, did some good recruiting again maybe
pitt is good but they do have some let downs, not sure whats up with that, they played so well vs freedom
i think oal is the worse league in the eastbay, bfl top 4 teams are pretty good imo just cuz they are small school doesnt mean they arent good. outside of logan the mval isnt that good, very inconsistant. @csd dont worry i think the bfl will do good in the playoffs in fact i think csd has a chance to win d5
mandown are u serious encinal win the accal in 08 and 09, u got to b kidding me, to me it seems like ur looking at it like only team that wouldve competed with them is pinole, and u said u didnt say anything bout 07 due to they didnt win league that last season they was n the accal, i think thats bcuz they lost to the same team that won the next 2 b high, trust and believe they got better and stronger the next 2 years under carter, c’mon man
i know warriorjacket go give me some flack when i see him friday but i just dont think ec or pinole will beat b high, i been taking grief for it but i still think sims can coach and i will stand by that, if ec pulls that win off then i will drink the kool aid, just that think sims will lose any league games, he scheduled a good non league and took a big swing for the fences but now it looks like its paying off, truth b told sims team even at st liz never really started off fast many times with good teams somehow they would lose the 1st game or so then get on a roll, and looks like they are rolling good, last year i really wouldnt count the ohigh games as game 1 maybe a scrimmage but the lost to freedom but later beat pitt whom beat freedom, sims can coach they started slow and many things going on lots of youth on the team and still have things going on there that not even a football thing like no locker room due to construction not done on time, new home stands should look great when done. b high will win league, sims and those kids will not lose these last 3. warriorjacket i will see u friday and i know ur going to say something but hey we been back and forth for a while now lol go SL PIRATES should win out, at least i hope we do got to winnable games b4 the bod showdown, no disrespect jb
October 27th, 2011 at 8:55 am
CSD scored 42 on Valley Christian. They’re solid but not good.
Their offense style fits the east coast thick muddy run games. Perhaps, that would help them during playoffs if they have to play Eureka or the northern teams?
October 27th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
First and foremost I am fan of the Berkeley and MACK programs. If Berkeley beats PV this Friday, which I hope they do especially because of the bad taste of last years lost, the EC vs. Berkeley game is going to be huge. After seeing both teams play I give the slight edge to EC. I believe they have more athletes atthe skill positions than Berkeley. Howevr if Berkeley is able to grind on EC and slow down the game they have a good chance of winning.
Pirate Football you keep defending Sims with this slow start theory, which proves why I think he is janky. A coaching that is efficient and prepared doesn’t have slow starts with a talented team. They win from the start. So when you say Sims has always done this, this shows a pattern of jankiness, which unfortunately BHS fans have to accept. But first and foremost Berkeley has to beat PV. We will know after this Friday.
@ Mandown
There is no way in heck Encinal would have beaten those BHS teams in 2008 or 2009 and if Carter was still coaching Berkeley they couldn’t in 2010 either. PV shouldn’t have won in 2010 if it wasn’t for a cheating clock operator and poor reffing.
October 27th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
sims teams always finish strong, the non league they played is going help them in the long run. still think he can coach, b high wins homecoming tomorrow vs pv
October 27th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Losing to a San Leandro team Berkeley clearly should have beaten is really going to help? Losing to MC two years in a row is really helping? Should have also beaten them the last two years. It was suggested to me that Sims was the perfect coach to suceed Carter , I am still not convinced. I am still not sold on his coordinators, RB and LB coaches. I understand the facility woes but I think coaching on the Div.1 NCS level is still over his head. Lets not forget the CAL game last year. No preparation, he didn’t even run plays before the game.
Pirate Football your boy Sims still has to prove it to me.
October 27th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Honestly doesn’t really matter who’s where anyone is seeding does any impartial fan really think any other local team can beat De La (thers always a chance thats why you play the game)so i feel the battle is just for second place in my opinion. I think div 3 is the one thats most balanced where you dont know who will will win
October 27th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
I think SRV could pull off the upset, but it’d have to be this week. DLS is historically known for playing an opponent tougher the second time around. Just ask Cal, last year, and MV the year before last. Not only that, but DLS should hopefully be getting healthier as the weeks progress. If anyone local will do it this year, tomorrow’s the night.
October 27th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Berkeley should not have beaten MC last 2 years……good games but the better came out on top in the end, especially the 2010 game