East Bay prep football recap: De La Salle beats SRV in showdown

Yes Houston could have chosen better words to say, but given the year he has had I think there was a lot of emotion that came out after his best performance of the year by far. He has had a bad year so far, and it seemed to come together for him in this game. If you talked to Bart you would understand how humble he really is. He doesn’t showboat on the field or talk a lot of trash. He has let his play do the talking.

Chalk:

It’s disappointing that you can’t stand up and just say what you want to say without all the games. You claim you don’t bite your tongue and are humble only before God, but you have shown here that you won’t man up and say what you really mean and are frankly humbled before us all.

Between your bizarre political analogies and your tirades against “slow-dude athletes” it seems apparent what you think, but I like to give people the opportunity to make themselves clear. You, for what ever reason can’t do this and more is the pity. Sad when people are too weak to actually back up what they say and/or stand behind it, especially when given a clear opportunity to do so.

Asalaam Alaikum

I think Houston knew EXACTLY what he was saying and stands behind it. Did he know about the “Houston, We Have a Problem” T-shirts worn by the SRV fans and Team (and coach) at the Wolves rally before the game? Likely? Is there a friendly rivalry between Kline and Houston (and Lockie for that matter, but not so much)and do those kids want to beat each other real bad? Definitely! No emotion or frustration, that night he was stating facts.

Renegades, always always apologizing for DLS. Stop it.

To EBALFan…

There are all sorts of underlying connections with the Houston family and San Ramon HS.

In the 60’s and early 70’s Fred Houston was the head football coach at San Ramon. In the early 70’s one of SR’s successful players was a young man named Bob Ladouceur. The QB of those successful SR teams on which Ladouceur played was a young man named Blair Thomas who went on the become Ladouceur’s offensive coordinator in Ladouceur’s early years at De La Salle. In the late 70’s at San Ramon, two kids fought for the QB position at San Ramon High School; Guy Houston and Troy Thomas. Guy was Fred Houston’s (who had retired as head coach) son and Troy was Blair Thomas’s younger brother. Guy eventually won the QB spot and led his SR team to an EBAL Championship in 1976. Along comes Bart Houston (named Bart after Bart Starr, QB of the Green Packers), son of Guy Houston at De La Salle and Zach Kline at San Ramon. Two Scholarshipped D1 QB’s who know one another well and have competed against one another for a while now.

Suffice it to say that there is enough history between the individuals involved over the years – it’s almost incestuous!

The sanctity of football is being violated. The reason that most people watch sports is to be amazed, to be able to say did you see that. Instead of players evolving into superior athletes the game is adjusting to a platform where mediocre athletes can have great success. The natural progression of self-preservation makes humans evolve and in order to get away from a massive hit, athletes would have to become bigger, stronger, faster, and quicker as well as have more agility.
There is nothing revolutionary about a handicapped QB hobbling back 7yrds and throwing the ball. This has occurred for years. The only thing that has changed is now you can’t hit the handicapped Quarterback sitting in the pocket. It’s called being conservative, sticking with the status quo. The D-line has gotten faster, stronger, more agile, why not make the QB do the same? Even worse, this will eventually migrate to all positions. Now you can’t hit a defenseless WR, what the hell is that? How did you get defenseless in the first place? IF YOU CAN’T PROTECT YOURSELF YOU SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING FOOTBALL….GO PLAY HARD TOUCH!!

Chalk… (160)

As though football has sanctity. When my father was a young man, he folded his leather helmet and stuck it in his back pocket on the way home from practice. Kids then were taught to tackle with their shoulders. Perhaps one of the hardest hitting players ever was a man by the name of Hardy Brown, an undersized linebacker who spent most of his career with the 49ers. He knocked out players with his shoulder tackles and was one of the main reasons that face masks were invented. As equipment improved it changed the way the game was played; your so-called sanctity.

Players have gotten bigger and faster. Equipment has improved. This has given people the feeling on invincibility. But the reality is that no one is invincible. It is incumbent upon those who are leaders in the game (owners, college presidents, officials and especially coaches) to ensure the safety of all those playing. This means periodic changing of the rules. Now in the pro game, dollars are often real motivation for change, but sometimes true safety comes into play. You may bemoan the movement of the kickoff back to 35, but it reduces the chance of injury (and more importantly injury to those marginal players who really can’t afford a life impacting event). Does it remove a potentially exciting part of the game? Sure it does. But this was also a part of the game that seemed to be marred at least 50% of the time by penalties anyway. I for one have no problem with the change. In other words, I am willing to give up a little excitement for some logical safety!

The way you see it, player safety is not a concern. If you are a youth coach as you claim, this mentality is ignorant at best and irresponsible at worst. What benefit do you provide kids by instructing them to crash into one another at full speed without technique being taught to them to avoid this contact? Do you rely on your players’ sheer physical talent and ability as a coach? If your point is to display survival of the fittest, I would submit to you that there are many places in nature that this lesson could be imparted other than on the field of play.

You wrote: “Even worse, this will eventually migrate to all positions. Now you can’t hit a defenseless WR, what the hell is that? How did you get defenseless in the first place? IF YOU CAN’T PROTECT YOURSELF YOU SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING FOOTBALL”

This mentality (of safety) SHOULD migrate to any position for which it is warranted. How does a player get defenseless? By acting with human nature and stretching for a pass that is obviously over his head. By punting a football and following through with a kick and looking like a barber pole. By losing a helmet on a play and opening themselves up for a player receiving coaching like yours looking to hit this young man in the skull with his helmet. You are a proponent of injury. You equate football to manhood, yet you have no real concept of what it is that makes a man.

I would suggest that, at your first opportunity, you go out and find a book titled “Season of Life: A Football Star, a Boy, a Journey to Manhood” by Jeffrey Marx. Then pick up “InSideOut Coaching: How Sports Can Transform Lives” by Joe Ehrmann. It is my fervent hope that you take the time to read and comprehend what it is these books are sharing. Please Chalk, stop inflicting your Neanderthal ideas on the youth of the Bay Area. You are doing them and the rest of society a disservice.

I don’t think R10 was apologizing for DLS at all. If you read his post, he just acknowledged that he could have chosen some better words, and contiued with: “If you talked to Bart you would understand how humble he really is. He doesn’t showboat on the field or talk a lot of trash. He has let his play do the talking.”

Well, I have talked to Bart and that is why I responded to the initial post on the subject of that interview that I’m sure he didn’t mean it to come out that way. He has been a class act, and if that is the worst thing he ever says to the media, then he’ll be doing just fine. But I’m sure after reading what was quoted, he will try to avoid sounding like that in the future. It shouldn’t have any bearing what t-shirts the SRV students are wearing. All DLS QBs are used to winning big games and I’m sure Lad also talks to them about how to talk to the media. Not a big deal, but not the most humble statement, and not really representative of his true character.

let’s cut off chalktalk. no-one answer him anymore.

Ok, this thread is deteriorating quickly, i say we follow Y mama ‘s advice and move on. Epc, i think you’ve done all you can, great points by the way. Turning back to football, how about this ?, who are your top 3 candidates for POY? Defense and Offense?

Hey FNL. Fascinating story you tell. Any idea how those non-catholic school/football players got around the blind application?

Chalk much love to you my brother but man you’re overthinking this…this blog is just about us fans who love to watch and talk hs football,thats all no need for any animosity or anything you have a right to express your views but this is the wrong forum God Bless

Pirate football are u a SL coach
or maybe x coach u seem 2 think u know alot about CHALKTALK
HOW about i come 2 ur game so u can see if me an the goat look alike im 5’11″ 198lbs 11.3% body fat ill have on all blACk under armour ill be the dude that looks like a super hero

I JUST WANT 2 SHAKE UR HAND OR MAYBE PAT U ON UR BACK
LIKE
jim harbaugh

For everyone’s sake this is my last response to Chalk…

I’ve attempted to engage you in an intelligent discussion but it is apparent you are too ignorant and simple minded with which to have a reasonable discourse.

So let me bring it down to your level chalk.
You are an ignorant clown who blames others for his own limitations. You may have had some physical ability in your youth, but your simple mind continues to keep you back. You regurgitate nonsense excuses as to why you haven’t been able to succeed in life and now you poison other young men to “think” (and I use the term advisedly in reference to you) as you do.
Guess what Chalk. I’ve coached for 30 years. I played DI ball. I was a walk-on who made the travel squad as a freshman. I was invited to a pro camp after my college career was over but knew that while my size and speed were passable in college, in no way was that the case in the pros. I loved and love the game of football and I have made it my place to give back to the game and to help young men gain that love of the game as well.

In my 30 years I have helped more than 300 kids to go on play in college and a good number of those have gone on to play in the pros. I take no credit for the kids playing pro ball other than trying to help them become better men. I have helped my kids, as well as kids from other schools, get into college because I feel strongly that it is part of my responsibility as a coach to do so.

You are so ignorant and angry that you can’t see straight. Football is a GAME. It is NOT the be all and end all for you or anyone. It can be a great teacher of lessons when in the hands of men who understand this. When in your hands, your anger and frustration at your own limitations can only spill like putrid vomit onto your kids, making them worse off for having played the game.

I’ve coached against men like you for years. And what I’ve found is that while in spite of the ignorance and anger that permeates your souls, you can occasionally win games in spite of this; at the lowest levels of the game. But you are never SUCCESSFUL because you have no idea of the meaning of the word.

Success is when I have a kid, who as a freshman is struggling with his classes because his father is gone, his mother is working two jobs to make ends meet and he is spending more time taking care of his younger brothers and sisters then he is on his class work. He is tempted by the streets, by watching other kids his age make money selling drugs for other ignorant men such as you. I take the time to work with him. To get to know the people in his neighborhood; to use them as resources to keep me informed when he starts to struggle as so many of these young men do. I have these young men to my home to let them see what hard work can achieve. I don’t live in a mansion, but I live in a nice, clean house and they need to see that they can, with hard work, accomplish things in life. I make it my business to know how they are doing in school. And yes, I hold them accountable for their school work with that dreaded GPA requirement you are so fearful of. My former players come back to me and ask how they can help. Not because I’ve asked them to but because I’ve spent the time to instill right and wrong in them. They do right because they were TAUGHT to do right. And SUCCESS is when the kid I described earlier is one of those very same players who after graduating comes back to me and asks what HE can do to help my current players.

I can picture you on the sideline. You have a kid who is physically head and shoulders above his teammates. You claim he’s like a son to you. He makes play after play because his size and speed allow him to do so. He may bend a rule now and again, but that’s okay, it’s just showing his toughness and YOU were that kind of player. He may injure a kid, but that’s just part of the game. If it happens, you grab his face mask and tell him “Great f-ing hit, don’t let up! Take all those M-F’ers out of the game!” And this kid, like all kids, wants to please you, to make you proud of him. So he hits another kid late, maybe breaks a bone. But that’s how we play in the hood isn’t it Chalk? And when the game is over, this kid goes home. If he’s in high school he probably heads to a party, maybe drinks a little, smokes a little weed, someone offers him something else. Have you worked with him to have the strength, the inner confidence to say no? Of course you haven’t. That isn’t football. Besides, as long as he is there to play Friday night, it’s cool. I mean it’s just another part of growing up in the hood, right? So he ends up drinking a little bit and hanging out with some “friends”. He gets pulled over for drinking; or drugs; or gets caught up in a gang; or robs a store; or gets shot. And you, you look and shake your head and say; “damn, he was a good player, what a waste.” Not thinking about the man he could have become, but the football player. As though it were more important.

When I was a young kid under 10, I remember watching a young man play for a coach like you. He was a great athlete, already a world class high jumper in high school, one of the very first to clear 7’0” as a junior. The football coach had been asking him to come out for the team since he was a freshman. Finally, in his senior year he decided to give it a try. He was 6’4” and 200 pounds playing at a WR spot. Mid way through the year he got hit and felt something “give” in his back as he put it later on. He came off the field and told the trainer that he felt something was wrong. This was long before Dr’s were on the sideline. The head coach came roaring over and told him to just shake it off and get his #$% back out on the field. So, like any kid he did. The coach ran a pass play. The ball was thrown over his head. His training taught him to jump for the ball event though there was no chance he could catch it. A kid on the opposing team saw a chance to really lay him out. He said later he knew there was no chance for him to catch the pass, but this was back in the day when you didn’t have “defenseless” players on the field. He got hit. He went down. He stayed down. 30 minutes later an ambulance took him off the field. He ended up in a wheelchair and never walked again. The kid who hit him felt so bad that he quit the game and never played again. I heard through the grapevine that he had all sorts of problems in life and never really got over the guilt he felt. He KNEW what he did was unnecessary.

You wrote: “WHEN I DIVE 4 A BALL THERE IS A INHERENT RISK THAT I TAKE ITS AN ADRENALIN RUSH – WILL I SURVIVE the contact do i have enuff agility to make him miss. did i do enuff core exercises to b able to torque my BODY so im just as strong in the air as i am on the ground.. i have never been defenseless on the football field and if i was i made a conscience decision to do so ITS CALLED HAVING HEART”

Here’s the deal Chalk; BOTH those kids had “HEART”.

And yes, there is an inherent risk in the game. And kids can and do get hurt. Why then are you so against keeping kids safe within the rules? And yes, by sometimes changing the rules. Are you so insecure in your manhood that you have to impose your ideas of “toughness” on others? You claim to have never been defenseless on the football field, but that if you were (once again, the lack of logic astounds) it was a conscious decision to do so. Guess what Chalk – you are wrong AGAIN. It may have been a conscious decision to come onto the field, but reacting to a play in a game is very much an unconscious decision. It comes because of training and often times because of a kids inherent natural ability. The greatest players in the game can’t explain HOW they do what they do. They don’t even know.

To end this, you claim you are “tired of pen pushing asshole like U kill the game”

Well I’m tired of Ignorant blowhards like you who care nothing for the kids under your care. And I use the word care intentionally, because these kids ARE under our CARE. And the REAL problem; you couldn’t possibly care less about them. So now come back with your homophobic charges, your ignorant rant, and your incredible lack of intelligence and know that I won’t respond. You can have the last word Chalk. I can live with that knowing that your words are ultimately meaningless.

First i apologize u seem really offended
we have 2 different perspectives
i wasnt a dirty player or coach
im far 2 arrogant 4that

as for grabing face mask i dont have 2 do that my looks are enuff
i teach to each kids individual ability

*they say they can hear my voice in the back of thier heads when they’re running down the field.

i tell everyone i coach with or played with i know football perfect 4 every action there is a counter action NOW R U PHYISCALLY CAPABLE OF PERFORMING!!!

GOD BLESS U MEDIOCRE S.O.B. lmao

Ok Chalk now go take your meds

yes now run the clock plz
IM EVEN MAD AT ME

IM A FIRST CLASS NUT CASE
SIT ME UP BY THE PILOT
5150 SOMEBODY CALL 911
THE FOOL IS TYPING AGAIN

STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD MISTER