- East Bay Prep Corner
East Bay Football Poll — 10/31
By Jimmy Durkin
Monday, October 31st, 2011 at 6:40 pm in East Bay Football, East Bay Poll.
| Team | Record | Points | Last week |
| 1. De La Salle (7) | 7-1 | 105 | 1 |
| 2. James Logan | 8-0 | 98 | 2 |
| 3. San Ramon Valley | 6-2 | 89 | 3 |
| 4. Encinal | 7-1 | 86 | 5 |
| 5. California | 6-2 | 74 | 4 |
| 6. Campolindo | 9-0 | 69 | 6 |
| 7. Salesian | 8-0 | 62 | 7 |
| 8. Pittsburg | 5-3 | 58 | 8 |
| 9. Freedom | 7-1 | 50 | 9 |
| 10. Concord | 6-2 | 37 | 11 |
| 11. Deer Valley | 4-4 | 34 | 10 |
| 12. Miramonte | 8-1 | 25 | 12 |
| 13. Las Lomas | 7-1 | 18 | 13 |
| 14. Berkeley | 5-3 | 17 | 14 |
| 15. Monte Vista | 4-4 | 11 | 15 |
Also receiving votes: Bishop O’Dowd (6-2, 6 points), El Cerrito (6-1-1, 1. The East Bay Football Poll is voted on by the prep sports staff of Bay Area News Group-East Bay.
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October 31st, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Anyone’s projections for playoffs up until this point?
-MF
October 31st, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Wow!!!!! How come California is 5? I find that very hard to believe, I question these rankings definatley. How can you be still ranked high losing to a team thats not even ranked and is at the bottom of the EBAL. Respectively, It should be a no brianer that any team that loses to someone who is not on this board should at least drop 3 spots. I really dont think campolindo is that good, Freedom and Pittsburg should be able to beat Campo because both of those teams have alot of athletes, plus campo has played against teams that have bad corners. It would be a wole different story if you played the top teams in the BVAL.
October 31st, 2011 at 7:22 pm
1. De La Salle- Why don’t they get the same type of athletes they used to?
2. SRV- Nowhere near DLS level. Second best in the Bay.
3. Logan- Solid not great. Will lose in the second round.
4. Encinal- Dominating league play as they should.
5. Cal- Not the same CAL teams we’re used to seeing
6. Campo- Very solid with a great QB in Stephans.
7. Pitt- Always let you down but always solid.
8. Freedom- Good year for them.
9. Salesian- Will win D-4 easy. Wished they played better teams
10. Concord- Sleeper pick in D-2 playoffs
11. Miramonte- Anderson is good. Will go two and out in D-3
12. Deer Valley- Underachievers. But could surprise some in the playoffs
13. Las Lomas- Need to beat Campo IMO to be ranked higher
14. BOD- Solid but very vulnerable
15. EC- Great young athletes. On the rise
October 31st, 2011 at 7:33 pm
So in this case the writers are making a argument saying that Granada is still a good team, just because they are in the bottom of the EBAL doesn’t mean it was a bad loss because its the EBAL and its a tough league? (Which I respectively disagree with) Thats what this is telling me. Anyone else think the same or different?
Heritage barely got by granada > whom heritage (considering) has lossed alot of players from last season> who lost to concord> who (Heritage) has lost to James Logan. Tieing this all back together clearly shows that granada is respectively not that great of team. They also only won 3 games.
This is interesting to take a look at.
October 31st, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Always considering that granada will not make playoffs because you at least need 5 wins to even get looked at by the NCS to get a D1 playoff spot.
October 31st, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Can somebody help me? For as much time as my son goes to practice & meetings. His team is 0-8. I don’t know what the heck is going on at practice. Also can someone tell me if it’s legal to have the kids practice on weekends when they don’t have a game during the school year? Also, how do we transfer to another school without losing eligbility. I’m just sick of this coach and his losing ways. We shouldn’t be forced to play at a school where the coach is the worst in the area. Help.
October 31st, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Expert,
The playoffs will give the BVAL a chance to show it’s stuff. We’ll see at least 3 teams in D1 in the mix for the BVAL right? So, that said who do you think will make the deep run? If i had to pick, i say Pitt. You?
October 31st, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Silvergreen,
Your right Pitt and maybe Freedom if they execute their plays.. If they dont then you can forget about Freedom. Freedoms tough when they execute plays.
October 31st, 2011 at 10:08 pm
I don’t see why El Cerrito would be voted. They tied with Newark who lost to Washington.
October 31st, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Cal may not be worthy of the #5 ranking this year, but they almost knocked off #3 SRV a couple of weeks ago, losing by 4 points in a shootout and lost a heartbreaker to an underrated Granada team who has lost a few heartbreakers themselves this year. The Granada loss featured a blocked punt and a fumbled punt which both went for TDs late shortly before halftime, accounting for half of Granada’s points on the night. In both the SRV and Granada losses, Armani Washington had TD runs of 88 yards called back due to holding penalties or Cal might just be sitting at 8-0 right now. On the other hand, they could have lost to both MV and Livermore and could easily be 4-4. Cal has been in every game this year and is still a very dangerous team that could bite someone come playoff time. Hopefully they can get back on track this week vs. AV and go to 7-2.
Pitt has 3 losses or they would probably be ahead of Cal, and Freedom lost to Pitt badly so they sit behind them even though they have only that one loss. It is very hard to incorporate those D2, D3 & D4 teams in when ranking all the teams, especially if they aren’t playing the top D1 teams in the preseason so they can be measured. They play in different divisions for a reason, and it really makes no difference if an Encinal, Campo or Salesian gets ranked ahead of some D1 teams as they don’t face each other in the playoffs anyway.
I was ready to see Cal slide from #4 this week on the heels of that loss and fully expected to be lower than #5, but Cal is not a bad team. They are obviously not as good as last year’s team which was the winningest team in school history at 12-2 with both losses to DLS. ManDown says this isn’t the Cal team he is used to seeing, but 2 years ago they were 5-6 and the year before that 7-5. They had a great team in 2007 that went 11-2 and made it to the NCS finals at the Coliseum, but aside from that year and last season, this year’s team still has the capability of being one of the best teams in the history of the school.
October 31st, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Hey so whats the hold up on El Cerrito getting ranked, they loss to Campo by 3 or something and they had a tie with Newark, they should be ranked in my opinion. So what MV just gets in because they are in the EBAL?
October 31st, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Exactly my point with these EBAL teams.. Moreaufan2
October 31st, 2011 at 11:28 pm
MV’s 4 losses are to DLS, Serra, Pitt and Cal. 4 teams that would also beat EC. EC did get one vote so they are on the verge of cracking the rankings. If MV loses to Foothill or SRV and EC takes care of Berkeley, then EC will likely get on the board. Beating Hercules or DeAnza will not get them any additional votes.
November 1st, 2011 at 8:47 am
BVAL Expert – I doubt you have seen Campolindo this fall. But to be fair, I have not seen any BVAL games either. Besides their high octane offense (40 ppg), the key has been their defense. They have given up an average of less than 6 points in the first half this year, when the first string has played. Their defensive backfield and offensive playmakers are as athletic as any D1 school in the east bay. Only El Cerrito, with their outstanding defensive backfield, has been able to slow them down.
The D3 playoffs are by far the deepest of any of the NCS divisions this season. Though we will never know, the top 8 or so D3 teams would likely be able to compete with any D1 team not named De La Salle this season.
November 1st, 2011 at 9:19 am
@8, Prep- 8-0 would be possible, but 4-4 more probable. For those who think Cal is overrated, bear with me, this took some time to put together. This years Cal seniors have had an interesting road. 8-2 as frosh, they could’ve been champs that year if they knocked off Houston/ DLS in game 10. Their soph JV year (Sanchez gone with many coaches also going to BG) 75% of their O production-, Dunn and Washington- went to Vars. and Farley had a RB who never played as frosh and the WB was a new position. Z now gone. The new O scheme was ill suited for the decimated backfield. To compound issues, it was poorly understood by the JV HC (a reluctant HC who took medical leave during camp) which compounded the learning curve for the new O. He was dismissed at season end, two of three assistants also left. With a new offense to learn for players and coaches and less than adequate personnel to perform it, it was a tough 4-6. The RB and 4 back quit as well. There was a decent X (also), but “run the offense” instead of let Farley throw, which he’s shown he can do pinpoint, was firm. In ’10, the were more than half the starters from ’09 back, thus, an amazing, but more predictable season as EBAL had less parity. This year, there are six legit starters back, EBAL has three D1 QBs and much greater parity 2-8, and if they were 8-0, that would be WAY overachieving and a huge testament to players’ hard work and the six coaches- two of whom are new in 11, one Sanchez vet, and the senior member of 12 years, 4 diff HCs, McDougal… and no Kravitz. IF they were 4-4, that would be conceivable with the previous points. Being playoff eligible in the EBAL is SO different than the other leagues, especially this year. Although the writers cannot go to all the games, I’d assume there’s a great deal of roundtable discussion prior to each poll- SOS, who’s up/down, player performance, etc.
knowledgeable.
November 1st, 2011 at 10:04 am
ManDown, in your opinion what separates Salesian and Encinal by so many spots (I assume you’ve seen both play)? Each has only one game against what everyone would consider a quality opponent (Inderkum & Serra respectively). Calpreps rates Salesian considerably higher and Encinal nearly lost to the negative 9 rated Alameda and Salesian smoked positive 9 rated VC. I have not seen Encinal play but I understand they are quite similar, very big and strong line play, excellent skill positions, etc. Just curious.
November 1st, 2011 at 10:43 am
Pride Baller, Personally these ranking also have “history” behind them. I just think Encinal has proven themselves over the years against quality opponents and Salesian hasent. I still think Salesian is a very very good football team but IMO since the Pride dont do it during the regular season play up in D-3 and prove your worth. Still, as good as Salesian is this year I believe Encinal can beat them.
November 1st, 2011 at 10:51 am
Maybe the best football player in the area, Erich Wilson (Serra), just committed to the Washington Huskies!
November 1st, 2011 at 11:07 am
ManDown,
I thought he was committed to Colorado?
November 1st, 2011 at 12:22 pm
FNL, you are correct that many people just assumed that Cal would dominate everyone not named DLS this season, without knowing the situation. This year’s senior class, minus Washington & Dunn, lost to SRV, Granada and Livermore in their JV year and were under .500. Half the team quit after that year including many starters, but the kids that remained were committed to work hard and get better. At 6-2, they have done quite well thus far in 2011. Last year’s senior class beat DLS in their JV year, which showed a lot of people they had a lot of talent, played well together and would be a force in 2 years, which played out in the trip to the Coliseum and close call with DLS in week 10.
I heard the SRV frosh beat DLS last week, which could be a real confidence boost for that program and a harbinger of things to come for SRV. Cal’s frosh beat SRV a couple of weeks ago and are undefeated, so that may also bode well for the Grizz as well as a currently undefeated JV squad. This has been an excitin year for the Grizz thus far with many close games, and hopefully they can continue to win games and advance in the playoffs. It is nice to know there is some talent in the pipeline and the program is on the rise.
November 1st, 2011 at 1:14 pm
isn’t deer valley’s record 4-4???
Yes, they are. Fixed. — JD
November 1st, 2011 at 3:01 pm
DFAL- Campolindo barely passed up Liberty who is at the bottom of the BVAL. I dont need to explain further more that right there tells me Campo is not as good as their record.
November 1st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
You BVAL Campolindo did not play Liberty you are thinking of Miramonte who got fugged up by Campolindo 42-13. And actually with the scores of Liberty so far, I think Campolindo would do just fine int he BVAL THIS year.
November 1st, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Not sure what you are referring to “barely passed up Liberty”. In addition to being ahead of all BVAL teams in the EB Poll, Campolindo is ahead of both Pittsburg & Freedom in the SF Chronicle poll as well. The only leg you have to stand on is the Calpreps ranking system in which Freedom (37.0) is higher than Campolindo (33.9) which is higher than Pittsburg (32.2) and the rest of the BVAL. Should Campolindo defeat Las Lomas (should be a great game) Campolindo may very well be ahead of all BVAL teams in any poll and any ranking.
As usual BVAL Expert, your logic, like your name is all wet.
November 1st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
big week in the BVAL this week. 4 teams (pitt, heritage, deer valley, freedom) all tied at 2-1 in league. 2 of the 2-1 teams, heritage/freedom will be playing against each other. it may come out to a 3-way tie after the end of friday night, depending pitt and dv win out their games (which they should).
November 1st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Cal is having mental ups and downs. Has a greater impact within the team then when DLS has has some hurdles to overcome. At this point the afterburners are starting to rev in Spartanville. Huston and crew are go for take-off.
November 1st, 2011 at 4:19 pm
If anyone thinks that SRV should be ranked higher than Logan, check out these facts.
Washington has loss to the following teams (score), CAL (43-20), Deer Valley (15-0), Amador (28-0), SRV (31-20), Irvington (37-33), and American (14-6). With SRV beating Wash by only 11, and Wash’s two MVAL losses were by 4pts and 8 pts, looks bad if you ask me.
Logan has blown-out Irvington (64-0) and American (69-7). Both 60+pts wins. If there’s any translation between these facts/scores, Logan would probably be predicted to beat Washington by at least 4 TDs. Assuming that Logan doesn’t barely get an upset bid by Newark and Washington, Logan has got to be your #2.
The only arguments of SRV being #2 is the fact that they beat foothill by 14, who logan only beat by 5. Then again PITT did the same thing and actually shut them out. The only thing is that PITT has 3 losses, but two-1 point losses to Berkeley and Deer Valley, and the other to granite bay.
November 1st, 2011 at 5:33 pm
The only argument of SRV being #2? Really?
How about beating Mitty, and team much better than any team Logan has played. That is actually one of the main considerations the comittee will look at besides records, quality wins. Strength of Schedule and Quality Wins are the main drawbacks for Logan this year.
November 1st, 2011 at 6:07 pm
FNL680 I am impressed with your depth of knowledge, thanks
November 1st, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Good evening all I just sat down to read the evening paper when I came acroos this. I thought everyone would find it interesting.
Marin Catholic to forfiet 12 2010 wins.
http://www.marinij.com/prepcentral/ci_19242791
November 1st, 2011 at 6:55 pm
I apologize then you your right. DFAL stuff
November 1st, 2011 at 7:05 pm
See this is why I dont like talking about other teams because I dont follow them as close as you do. I only know teams in the BVAL as the same for you knowing about the DFAL. I dont take this as a negative context, its just a way to better my knowledge of the NCS. Its a positive if people follow more then one team. In that case I think they are just as good as their record (Campo).
Voice of Reason- I doubt that the ratings take physical play of how pittsburg pounds the hell out of the ball into consideration of their ratings, its probably mostly their scores and scheduling. They are very good at running the ball. So i disagree with “Campolindo may very well be ahead of all BVAL teams in any poll and any ranking.” However they are very close to being ahead.
November 1st, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Does anyone think besides de la that an ebal team could win the open divison in the ccs? Srv 2 logan 2 doesnt matter cuz logan will be 2 or 3 in ncs league champ and will host if they meet. No way campo beats pitt!
November 1st, 2011 at 8:37 pm
#27
The argument for SRV over Logan is that they’ve played a much tougher schedule. Calpreps has SRV SOS at 30.9, Logan’s at 2.2. Logan’s big win this year is by 4 to Foothill. SRV beat them by 14 and that’s not even their second biggest win of the season.
November 1st, 2011 at 8:41 pm
I think that last years California team could have beaten Palo Alto. That would have been a good game.
November 1st, 2011 at 8:54 pm
I agree with Outsider, Cal would have given them a heck of a game. I saw both teams play and both were legit. This year, I think SRV could compete well with all of the CCS teams. SRV beat Mitty earlier this year by a TD. Just this past weekend, the Bells got pushed by Mitty and escaped with a 9 point win.
November 1st, 2011 at 9:47 pm
#34 I think what he is trying to compare is SRV’s win over Washington. They had to score 2 TD’s in the 4th quarter to beat Washington. Washington then goes and loses to American and Irvington, 2 teams that Logan destroyed. Yes SRV and Logan have a common opponent in foothill and yes SRV beat them by a bigger margin. But you must realize that Logan’s wins over heritage and foothill were away which I think does play a factor. U can’t say that there is no such thing as home field advantage. On top of that it’s not Logan’s fault that heritage is on a down year…they had a 2 year contract. We’ll just have to see what Logan does to Washington and then what happens in the playoffs. Maybe then Logan will get the respect they deserve.
November 1st, 2011 at 10:16 pm
I’m having 2nd thoughts abt Pitt’s seeding in playoff. I am hoping Cal and Freedom or Berkeley will seed higher so Pitt can fight it out at the lower bracket and avoi fasd meeting DLS in the early rounds. A Pitt vs DLS championship finals will be more fun to watch. But, the reality of it is that Cal is dropping fast and Pitt’s head to head win over Freedom with big lead nor Berkeley’s low raking is not helping out and Pitt is likely to have the #4 seed and meet Logan, SRV and DLS in the early rounds in the first bracket. Pitt wants to continue its straight Bval championsh ip even if its a three way tie so it wont allow a Liberty or Antioch win. But that could be the other way to drop in seeding if Pitt loses but Galli might not allow that to happen. Tsk, tsk, tsk so Pitt will need to be at its peak sooner to matchup with DLS.
November 1st, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Pitt won’t lose to Liberty or Antioch. They’ll end up with at least a share of the BVAL title, and likely a #4 or #5 seed. If they were to lose to one of those teams and drop to 3rd place, they’d probably end up as a #8 or #9 seed anyway and still face DLS, but a round earlier. I wonder who gets the automatic bid and home field advantage rights if they end up in a 3-way tie in the BVAL this year?
November 1st, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Coach K, although SRV did score 2 TDS in the 4th quarter against Washington, they didn’t need both to win. The first TD won the game. The second TD put them ahead by the final margin of 11 points, 31-20. Both SRV and Logan will have beaten Washington, as will a number of other teams. It will be just a win for both squads against a D2 opponent with a bad record when looked at by the seeding committee, whether Logan beats them by 11, 41 or just 1.
Logan may still get the #2 seed as the committee seems to like undefeated teams, even with a weak SOS. But Logan’s season will be measured by how they do in the postseason against D1 playoff teams, not how badly they beat Washington.
November 1st, 2011 at 11:05 pm
If the BVAL ends up in a three tie….the team with the best record might have the home field advantage…Either way there is a good chance that DLS will meet Pittsburg….But it will end up the same old way unless Pittsburg comes in focused….
November 2nd, 2011 at 3:13 am
#28/34/37/40-
The committee always looks at common opponents, first and foremost. And then from there, what teams have done better. I will admit that SRV beating mitty gives them one hell of a nod. Mitty, who lost to Bellarmine, and the bells lost to DLS. The spartans who dominated SRV.
Basically the way the committee will look at it is if Logan blows out Wash, they’ll probably assume that Logan could have had a chance against Mitty. The only other common opponent is San Leandro, who both Bellarmine AND Logan blew out. Bellarmine, who ALSO beat Mitty.
I’ll admit the prepfan’s arguments of quality wins aren’t there for Logan, it has always been Logan’s problem. But until we reach playoffs, you can only base these rankings off the facts we have now. If Logan loses and doesn’t make the finals, so be it.
November 2nd, 2011 at 7:06 am
#37
SRV’s two losses, and their two big wins, were all on the road to teams better than anything Logan’s seen all year. That being said I’m not necessarily for SRV being ranked higher than Logan. All I’m saying is that the Foothill comparison isn’t the only argument to be made in SRV’s favor.
November 2nd, 2011 at 8:43 am
One thing that will influence the final two weeks that has not been mentioned is injuries. Since this is week #9, most teams, I imagine, have a big MASH unit. I know Pitt is pretty banged up. They had five guys go down against Heritage with what looked to be ankle injuries. All walked off but did not return. Might make the final two weeks very interesting.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:37 am
SRV still has two tough games ahead of them with Livermore and MV.
November 2nd, 2011 at 10:38 am
The committee cares nothing about injuries
November 2nd, 2011 at 11:45 am
Pitt Grunt, you are right that every team has its share of injuries at this time of year, some worse than others, but no team should think they have a monopoly on them. Part of being a good coach is adapting to the injuries sustained during the season, and have capable backups prepared for battle. This is where D1 teams have big advatages over smaller schools, as they have a lot more kids available to add depth to their rosters. And Panther4 is also correct that the committee cares nothing about injuries.
November 2nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Do you guys blog like this every week? This is kinda cool. Except for some of the whining..
**BVAL champion and home field was decided prior to season with number draw. The coaches already know who owns tiebreaker.. you can easily find out.
November 2nd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
post #6
just out of curiousity what school does ur son attend
mval stud i agree, im not sold on el cerrito yet, mf2 not see what makes them good enough to be in the top 15, if they beat b high then i will agree but who have they beat that u can actually say is a quality win and pinole isnt that good this year, saw they this season, like i told warriorjacket im not yet drinking the kool aid
i can understand y MY pirates arent ranked i dont think they have earned that yet, maybe by beating bod and/or win a playoff game, but they look to b getting healthy at the right time,
bhigh is now gettin stronger, that young line has jelled very fast only 1 senior on that line and he is the only 1 i believe with varsity experience, so kudos to the line coaches, moore, jackson and lyons, b high wins league for the final accal football season
GO SL PIRATES
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Drop MV and Deer V add BOD and El Cerrito
Cant see MV and DV still being listed.
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
@Pirate your right ec didn’t play a particularly tough schedule but they are very good but they are very young mostly sophmores and juniors and they frequently make mistakes young teams make also I believe bhigh is hot right now and would probably be favored against ec and more than likely beat ec but dont be fooled to think they wont make some noise in the playoffs they will win at least 2 games in playoffs they are a fast physical and hard hitting team with a good defense…there biggest problem is their offensive scheme very plain for the amount of athletes they have and their qb is very skittish and in accurate when under pressure.Bhigh played a brutal schedule but has only one quality win itself they are a d1 school playing in league of d3 schools they should win but you have to play the game and they wont go past 2nd round in playoffs but I believe ec/bhigh will be a good game give bhigh the edge cause Ive heard the line is huge.bhigh 35 ec 21
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Salesisian is very good watched them play a couple times should win it all this year dont think they’re undefeated playing in a stronger league but we’ll see next year…..campo good regular season team going nowhere in playoffs 2nd round exit…Encinal always tough good defense and offensive scheme sooo difficult to stop.anybody seen or no about this Windsor team ?sounds like they’re for real in d2… de la in D1 the battle is to see who will get smoked by them at the coliseum no suspense there
November 2nd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
BVAL Expert??? If so, you would know that Antioch is at the bottom of the BVAL, and not Liberty (the second consecutive year Antioch has been at the bottom). You would also know that the BVAL has much more parity than in years past, evidenced by Antioch taking Heritage to overtime and Liberty pushing both Deer Valley and Heritage to the wire. Antioch also beat a solid Napa team in the non-league.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 am
Deer Valley is ranked to high at 4-4, I know they are good but Miramonte and LL at 8-1 should be higher.
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:52 am
While the NCS guidelines don’t specifically state what criteria the committee must use it is generally the same one used to select the at larges:
CRITERIA FOR AT-LARGE SELECTION
The criteria for selection of at-large teams for NCS/Les Schwab Tires Championship Series in football shall be a balance between:
1) Record over-all
a. League/Place co-champion
b. Non-league (pre-season-other)
2) Strength of Schedule
a. Record against top 3 opponents
b. Record against teams in the same division
List your most significant victories/defeats
c. Record against teams in a higher division
List your most significant victories
d. Head-to-head against teams which have qualified or are being considered.
e. Record against common opponents
f. Coaches’ Rating
SEEDING
The respective Seeding Committee shall be responsible for the pairing and seeding of the NCS/Les Schwab Tires Football Championship Series Events per the format as adopted by the Board of Managers.
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:42 am
bval predictions…
pitt 42 liberty 7
heritage 28 freedom 20
deer valley 28 antioch 24 (cgew)
good luck to all the teams. it’s a must win for deer valley and heritage.
November 3rd, 2011 at 11:21 am
Great story on former De La Salle Player Dylan Wynn regarding OSU true freshman in Portland Tribune.
November 3rd, 2011 at 11:53 am
wow newark could beat logan and be MVAL champs. its been a while since anyone but washington has been in that position. i like logan but an upset would be fun to see. might have to go watch that game
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Mvalfan, I hope you’re kidding. Irvington beat Washington by 2, Newark lost to Washington by 7, and Logan beat Irvington 64-0 I believe.
November 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
newark beat kennedy 56-9 washington should have lost to kennedy on a game ending field goal but get the win 14-12. so newark should have killed washington right? comparing a common opponent doesn’t work in high school all the time especially using 4 team comparison.
i dont think they will win. but they still have to play the game. logan is the #2 team in the eastbay i think they are better then SRV. the coach there has taken big strides this year gettin ready for playoffs. they pass a lot more, he doesnt run his back into the ground to run up their stats, so they can be fresh for playoffs i think if logan stays healthy they could put up a cal like (10-14ish)game against de la
November 3rd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Jimmy or Ben, Will you guys be doing one final East Bay stat leaders for football this year?
November 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
What do you guys think about this? The A-11 pro football league? Kurt Bryan is nuts
http://www.insidebayarea.com/high-school-sports/ci_19256016
November 3rd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Hsfootball predictions:
pitt 42 liberty 7
heritage 28 freedom 20
deer valley 28 antioch 24 (cgew)
I’m sure this is going generate an “interesting” response from BVAL Expert.
My take:
Pitt/Liberty will be a little closer. Pitt is banged up and Liberty is flying high after the victory over Antioch.
35-20
Heritage/Freedom will be a high scoring battle in which Freedom’s D will struggle to stop Heritage’s running game and Heritage will struggle to stop Mayes and Company. Heritage needs to stay on the ground. Heritage QB is no where near the talent of Mayes or Watson. (I know I know, a cheap plug for my guy.) Heart wants Heritage but brain says Freedom.
42-38
DV-Antioch is the Antioch Darby (spent some time in London). This one, I think, will be close although it should not be. DV needs to rebound after the tough lose to Freedom. Do they have the heart??? They certainly have the talent. Antioch is in free fall and an upset win against DV would certainly help, but I don’t think it will happen.
34-24
November 3rd, 2011 at 2:37 pm
#57 I agree with MVAL stud you have to be joking. Yes there have been years when other schools in the MVAL had a shot at the title but this year is not one of them. I don’t think anybody in the MVAL wants to see Logan this year because they know its going to be ugly. No chance for an upset Logan wins big 42-7.
November 3rd, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Look here is the bottom line on the whole SRV/Logan battle for #2 debate. The situation should Logan finish undefeated and SRV 8-2:
SRV advantages:
1) Tougher SOS
2) Tougher non league schedule
3) Better League
4) Beat common opponent Foothill by more two TD’s while Logan beat them only 13-9
Logan advantages:
1) undefeated
2) league champion
3) average margin of victory ( Washington game will factor big time)
4) SRV’s two loses ( even though they were against powerhouse programs, the fact that those games weren’t even close ,will play a factor into seeding).
There it is all laid out 4 u, baring a Logan loss, or another SRV loss.
November 3rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
# 52 djgaucho:
Salesian could go undefeated in any number of other leagues. BSAL (50/50 – I say they are at least as good as Encinal), ACCAL (ditto Berkeley), DFAL likely, DVAL likely, HAAL likely, MVAL (maybe a shot at Logan).
November 3rd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
SRV lost to the defending D2 state champion Folsom 41-29. That sounds pretty close to me. And while I’m record as saying that I think Logan will get the #2 seed, it is not automatic and the Folsom game might even help their cause even though it was a loss more than Logan beating Mission SJ 63-0 or Kennedy 49-6. Bottom line is that it really doesn’t matter as long as those teams are 1 & 2 and keep winning, they’ll end up playing the semi-final at Logan since they are the best team in a very weak league and therefore get homefield advantage over the second best team in an extremely tough league.
I’d be in favor of a change for a league champ only to be guaranteed 1 home field game and the remainder to be played at the higher seeded team until the finals. Better yet, play the semi-finals at a neutral field and have the games back to back so more fans can see both games.
November 3rd, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Prep fan, don’t let that score fool u. It was not that close. Folsom dominated that whole game from start 2 finish. SRV defense (which has been suspect the whole season) got shredded, and could not stop their star QB. By the way, Folsom got blasted last week by pleasant grove and how they finish the season n where there they r seeded in SJS playoffs will also factor into NCS seeding.
November 3rd, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Not fooled at all UC Rancher. The score was what is what it is. I’m sure the 63-0 game with MSJ wasn’t as close as the score indicated as well. I don’t think Folsom’s seeding in the SJS playoffs will have any bearing whatsoever in the NCS seedings. It would have been nice to see Logan play a team like Folsom this year. It would have been their toughest game of the year rather than 3-5 Foothill.
November 3rd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
I dont know what your point is and why u keep bring up Mission San Jose game but anyways, if SRV defense keeps going the rate that it is they might not make it past the second round. Their great QB can’t keep bailing their defense out every single game. U gotta stop somebody sometimes u know?
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:11 pm
#61….Mandown….You are right…it won’t last long if it ever gets off the ground…
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Prideballer – It’s one thing to suggest Salesian is a top D4 team, I’m right with you there. They should walk thru their division without much trouble. To suggest they might go undefeated in this year’s DFAL is laughable. Any of the top 3 teams (Campo, Las Lomas or Miramonte, would likey be favored over Salesian and at least 2 of the 3 would defeat Salesian, in my opinion. Further, should Campo or Miramonte run the table in the D3 playoffs, even an undefeated Salesian wouldn’t get picked over either one of them for the State Bowl Game.
November 3rd, 2011 at 8:14 pm
What’s the deal? Why no love for O’dowd still not ranking?
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Encinal at Kennedy should be interesting. Athletically, the Eagles have some talent that can hang with the Jets. But the Jets have the team and history of recent lore.
Encinal 44 vs. JFK 20, but it will be close 1st half
Campo at LL: Cougars have had some great battles with LL. This will be a close game. Look for Cougs to chuck the ball wide and deep. But winning at LL is not easy, especially when they are good.
Campo 21 vs. LL 20
Foothill at Monte Vista: Locke holds the key to victory for the Mustangs and coach Bergman will let Lockie unlock the vault. Monte Vista believes in defense this year about as much as a Dentist believes in the Tooth Fairy…nada. The Falcons are always prepped but will it be enough?
MV 24 vs. Foothill 23
Windsor at Casa Grande: Windsor as I said before opening day is the new upcoming stalwart in NorCal. They are for real, this year and for years to come. Casa Grande is not the Large House it was a few years ago, more like Casa Mediano now.
Windsor 32 vs. CG 23
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Logan will beat Newark,the question is by how much?
November 3rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
@49, My son plays for San Lorenzo. Coach Wright is too nice and doesn’t know his Xs and Os. I don’t want my boy going to practice 6 days a week just to lose every game of the year. SL or Arroyo look like good programs but how can we transfer without losing eligibilty. What do I need to do?
November 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
I saw the SRV/Folsom game and SRV was not completely dominated. Folsom was pretty much in control, but SRV hung tough. SRV had over 400 yards of offense. Folsoms defense is not strong enough to dominate many teams.
November 4th, 2011 at 12:17 am
#75
u have to have a legitamate address change, so would have to move thats the only legal way i can tell you, if there was another way i sure wouldnt say it on a blog lol
November 4th, 2011 at 1:13 am
Deer Valley played them too and lost. 49-46. Deer Valley, who lost to foothill. And beat Washington 15-0. That doesn’t really help that argument..
November 4th, 2011 at 1:15 am
Never mind. I take my comment back about Deer Valley/Foothill. Wrong Foothill team. The Washington game is correct though.
November 4th, 2011 at 8:54 am
DFAL Guy – my assertion that Salesian could take the DFAL teams is hardly laughable. You obviously have not seen Salesian play this season. I however did see the Miramonte-Las Lomas game and I’ll tell you that neither of those teams would be favored and neither would be likely to even give a close game. Salesian is noticeably superior to those teams on both lines and at most skill positions. Salesian’s defense is especially superior to those two teams. I can find only one common opponent, both Sal & Mira played Kennedy-Richmond, both scored 42 but Mira gave up three TD’s to zero for Salesian. I cannot speak to Campo, I haven’t seen them play but can’t imagine they would be any sort of heavy favorite. I agree that it’s unlikely the team will make a bowl game by cruising through the D4 tourney.
November 4th, 2011 at 9:53 am
A-11 football??? What’s the big deal? I grew up playing everyone is eligible in the parks. It’s flag football with one rule change, tackle the kid with the ball instead of grabbing a flag, LOL.
November 4th, 2011 at 10:36 am
To Pride Baller #80…
While I don’t believe CalPreps is the be all and end all to predicting outcomes, below is their predictions for Salesian vs. DFAL – the games being played on nuetral grounds. I would agree though that your assertion is hardly laughable. Only 2 points down against Las Lomas and 9 against Campo. Frankly that tells me that BOTH games could go either way.
Salesian 26 Campolindo 35
Salesian 31 Miramonte 28
Salesian 22 Las Lomas 24
Salesian 31 Dublin 19
Salesian 31 Acalanes 17
Salesian 38 Dougherty Valley 17
Salesian 42 Alhambra 21
November 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Rebellious 1, arroyo sucks they will never go platinum. SL too many kids to choose from. Go to a newer smaller program with good history in the major 2 sports current time and past time
November 4th, 2011 at 11:19 am
blacksmith
did u read what u wrote, u said to go to a NEWER smaller with history and then said past time, cant have that and its new lol, if he moves to SL district and his son is a player, he will get playing time
November 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
pride baller
you really cant believe that salesian can beat b high, C’MON MAN
November 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Transfering from one school to another because the football team is bad is not a valid reason to transfer. I suggest you go to http://www.cifncs.org and look at the file the parents guide to tranfers and eligibility.
November 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Pirate Football – I am saying that. Calpreps has Berkeley at 22 and Salesian at 29. Salesian beat Inderkum which is rated higher than Berkeley. Like epcthree said, Calpreps isn’t all that but it’s at least reasonable for all the hypothetical discussions that we have here.
November 4th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Cal preps will say anything, Cal preps has salesian beating almost half the teams in the top ten, But Lets be real the reason why there ranking is up so high is because they beat an inderkum team who is basically the “salesians” of the Sac Joaquin… I am sure Dublin will beat salesians this year, But cal preps says other wise, Honestly I think this team is talented but the last 4 years what was there best win? this team could possibly beat any team, but we will never know, IF you cannot petition up, Dont say you can hang with the big boys until you play the big boys, Any one can say “hey I think we can beat de la salle” but until you go out there and do it, your all talk and salesians doesn’t even win d4 year in and year out what makes you think you can do that in d3. The hardest division in ncs
November 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
but i will give salesians this i seen them play and they could hang in a lot of leagues and for some people to laugh at that gives me the notion that you havent seen this team play, they are going to run away with d4 this year, but its sad how they are group with the Ncs d3, or i think they should get there tickets to carson Smh
November 4th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
scoop
i agree with you, i think they could compete very well in other leagues, mostly due to 2 things, i have to admit it they have a good head coach a bit arrogant but he can coach, then he has good asst coaches mainly his line coaches are very very good, b4 this group of big lineman they usually have a bunch of runts on the line but are very well coached and relentless, now they have had some good atheletes 1 being javid best, but he wasnt by himself they have had others but when they dont have those type of skill guys they are still very good and that is due to the very good line coaches, too bad they didnt petitionup with this huge group of line
November 4th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
The Christian Bros from De La will sack the city of Granada and send the Moors home. The rain in Spain is silver and green on the plain.
November 4th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Scoop, I agree with you that it’s sad FOR THE KIDS ON THE SALESIAN TEAM that they won’t get a chance to play in Carson. However, Salesian’s been in the BFL for 10+ years, so it’s not like Coach Nightingale didn’t know that he needed to beef up his non-conference schedule if he felt like the team was a worthy candidate for such consideration. While playing Inderkum was a good start, there’s no excuse for scheduling Swett – a team that hasn’t had a winning record in 5 years. If you want to be compared with the top teams in D-III, PLAY some of the top teams in D-III. Marin Catholic came down and played Berkeley, I’ll bet it wouldn’t have been too tough to get them to play Salesian instead. Cardinal Newman went all the way down to San Jose to play Valley Christian. It wouldn’t have taken much arm twisting to get them to play against the Pride. By avoiding such games, it looks an awful lot like Salesian is content with winning a Division-IV banner and patting themselves on the back for a comfortable undefeated season instead of actually challenging themselves (like Cardinal Newman, who could do the same thing but petitions up to play in the much tougher D-III). So while it’s sad for the players, it’s just desserts for the coach. Next year, it will be interesting when Salesian changes leagues, and will be even more telling when we see Salesian’s non-league schedule. If it includes stinkers like Swett again, you’ll know that there’s no incentive to do anything more than win D-IV.
November 4th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
yo mama
im guessing u know who the moors are, dont think that other people dont know,
November 4th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
PrideBaller and all others regarding Salesian.
Salesian can play and beat Berkeley High. The Javid Best team would have beaten BHS, the SPSV team that beat the Javid Best team would have beat BHS, the SPSV ’07 team that averaged almost 500 yds. per game, 12-1, 23 straight over 2 yrs would have beaten BHS, Marin Catholic has beaten BHS, and yes all the Encinal teams would have beaten BHS. BHS might have some talented individuals, but as a full complete team their program is no where near these programs overall the last 10 years. Remember when Monte Vista visited BHS at nite a couple of years back and took them apart in the playoffs scoring 55 points?
Disclipined programs will handle Berkeley High.
November 4th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
The Moors were turned back at the Battle of Tours in 733 AD by the French Knight Charles Martell(the cognac named after him). He prevented Europe from being over-run by them, they came out of the East. The Moors also moved thru Northern Africa and croseed into Spain(like Hannibal did centuries earlier). They dominated several large cities in Spain until the late 15 th century when Christians finally defeated them for the city of Granada, a Moor stronghold for centuries. The word Alhambra also comes from the city of Granada, a Moorish site in the city, just for you Bulldog fans.
November 4th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
The Moors were members of the Arab and Berber tribes. The famous El Cid also contributed to driving the invaders out of Spain.
November 4th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
@Pride Salesian is a very good team no doubt I just think they wouldnt have as much success as they have had in a larger more competitive league….a few years aog when I was in school at ec we played Salesian regularly and beat them yearly they were not very competitive in our league at that time but I do believe this years team would compete in almost any league just not undefeated in my opinion and not perenially as they have in the BFL but we’ll see next year when the’ll be playing ec and pinole etc.
November 4th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Salesian has been a remarkable program given their small size, rough area of location and a top basketball team that overshadows their football team sometime. If Salesian makes it to the state title game, that would be great news.
A-11 pro league? If Bryan and Co pull it off, not only will I applaud the success but I will purchase season tickets if there is a new pro team in the bay area.
Deer Valley – can somebody please explain to me what is the Big Deal about Deer Valley this year? Really, a four-loss team in a very winnable league with Pitt flopping a bit, Freedom still a year away from their best. I respect DV but please…
Alhambra is feeling the loss of Coach Silviera, the Bulldogs struggle
November 4th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Killer D Deer Valley got injured alot in the Freedom game
November 4th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Heritages defense Did not show up at all Pierre Carter got tooken out of the game.
November 4th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
El Cid slayed Granada tonite 42-00, running clock 2 minutes till half, entire second half.
November 4th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Killer D Came close. 55 to 22 Over a Up and coming Kennedy Program. As a Former Kennedy Coach I can say I really Like what Coach Mack is doing over there. That Having Been Said. Moreau Next week and as always. Jet Pride!
November 4th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
big joe
not sure what brand of crack ur smoking, no way they beat b high then and now, i seen all 3 var years of javid best they had some good teams and he was a great player. i also seen them get crushed by b high at cal camp 1 summer with j best, maybe with the big line and a javid best type player then maybe they have a chance, b high this season has a young line that has really grown up but they do have size, salesian dont have the skill guys that b high have, prev years b high line was very big and had really good skill guys that are currently playing college ball and ding very well, what skill guys do salesian have that play college ball right now, lets get real, and you say encinal well lets not forget the last year they was in the accal they lost to b high, so dont forget that, yes 2 years ago mv beat them in the 2nd round but get ur facts right the score was 48-19, u seem to have a thing against b high, thats ok ur doing ur job, haters are supposed to hate. like i said salesian is a good program but really dont believe they could year in and year out beat the big schools
hey jimmy or ben i thought salesian was staying in the bfl for football
November 4th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
I heard Salesian had a few ex-players making a little noise in college ball. Devon Montgomery at Sac City…Adam Jinparn at CCSF…Aaron Prier at Idaho State. Nobody on Rickey Galvin’s level but a few at least…
November 5th, 2011 at 12:28 am
@ Big Joe
You are out of your mind. Although those teams were good, they were not strong enough at the line of scrimmage. Last year I saw a good Salesian Team lose to MACK at home. The BHS 08 and 09 teams were very good. I just don’t see Salesian beating Berkeley, Monte Vista or Pitt for that matter. Stick to Div 4 and stop fooling yourself.
November 5th, 2011 at 12:51 am
lucas king cal berkeley
morris norrise sac state
ashton collins sac state
keir abrams humbolt state
jacai deneveu humbolt state
faraji wright boise state
just to name a few
November 5th, 2011 at 12:53 am
oh boy
ur right nobody on ricky level, not even on morris level, lets not name the juco players that are gettin ready for d1 ball
November 5th, 2011 at 10:15 am
I saw some of those Div 4 teams, don’t see them losing 50-00 like BHS did against De La several years back in the playoffs.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Nothing against BHS, no hating, I am from Berkeley. They are not what they used to be, as a team they are not impressive the last 10 years. Didn’t say they didn’t have talent, I beleive I mentioned that. Bye the way, not on crack, that’s for ghetto boys.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Berkeley High did have Ricky Galvin, who’s killin it at Washington State.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Big joe: bhigh has had 3 head coachs in the last 10 years. That takes a toll on a program… If you are a berkeley guy get ready, lets give our coach the time he needs to build. Hope you come out opening day of tne new home of the yellowjackets. Calling all jackets this is EC week, come out to support the team at EC thur.
November 5th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Galvin is legit, WSU did great on picking him up…Cal – Wilkerson (MV) Ward, Wynn (DLS) Mannion (Foothill) at OSU, all young guys making a difference in big time programs. Lots of talent in the Bay Area, many more that I’ve missed I am sure…I am sure Knottingham (MV) is likely to take over at the farm once Luck moves on…good stuff!
November 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Sparty must have been studying film all week. They executed and exploited Granada defense for a classic buzz-kill..game over and done / checkmate at half.
Wonder what Sparty has planned for next Friday with Cal.?
November 5th, 2011 at 11:43 am
BHS vs. EC – 1970 both teams started out 5-0! BHS finished at 5-4 and EC 6-3. Both teams had lots of talent, BHS QT- Laughlin, LB Paul Brown( Cal wrestling champ), Stevie Odoms at WR(NFL Packers), RB Paul Arnt, QB- Wilson. EC had Sammy Burns RB, Greg Williams FB( the guy who bolted 60 plus yds in 4th quarter against Alameda to end the Hornets 29 game win streak, at that time Alameda was # 1 in EB for a couple of yrs, and a couple of EB linemen.
Know what, after St. Mary’s upset Pinole Valley with Eddie Ayers and finished 7-2, the Panthers out polled both BHS and EC. They also put more players on all-gazete than both teams. Common opponents saw SM beating both schools. So, proof is a small school( SM only 500 at the time) can be better than schools twice as large(EC) and BHS 4 times as large. Many of the players from all 3 schools knew each other and got along, especially the football/track athletes.
November 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Pirate Football, I can tell you a couple of things about San Leandro back then too, always a good QB, HOWEVER Pacific High ran that town with the Baker Bros. and the triple option. All played college ball. Also Marina High was a force with a big time running back who lead the EastBay in rushing one year.
Just wanted to qualify my knowledge and opinions.
November 5th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
not saying that a small school team are not good i coached at 1, saw some teams with some good talent also, just dont believe year in and year out that salesian would dominate like they do, and really dont think they beat b high the past 5 seasons [carter 3 sims 2] just my opinion. im very aware that sm was a powerhouse small school. they were good in the 70′s 80′s and 90′s, they where all boys then like dls still is and b4 they went coed they how ever u want to put they got many of good youth football players good cyo hoopers and track kids and thats what made them sucessful. yes i am also aware of SL past and the schools that closed down, most people dont know SL was even in the oal in the past
so big joe u have this oppinion about b high and its not very positive in the past 5 seasons what games have u attended, i would like to know if u saw them in person what teams have u seen them play against, u say that are individuals ur wrong, u would have to be arund those kids and u would know thats not true
November 5th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
sng
yes cal has past up lots of good bay area players wynn is a good d line kid seen him as a soph in the state game and was impressed back then, the lb for san jose state from clayton valley is the real deal, i understand some of the kids dont have the grade to get in cal its not an easy school to get into, but i can tell you ricky galvin and t. ward was qualified and t. ward 1st choice was cal.
November 5th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Pirate, not saying the kids. That’s evident because they are going foward to future success. The team concept instilled by coaching and the program itself, wight training, off season conditioning, no major conflicts(which has hurt the program last several yrs according to many parents on this blog(Coaches not showing up to league/east bay selection meetings), that’s what I am talking about. BHS needs a Long Beach Poly attitude with the attendance there, can it be done , a Lad type coach could do it?
November 5th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Pirate, one more thing- EVERY SINGLE PLAYER has too have that attitude like the stars- willing to go the extra mile and sacrifice, if you’re a bench warmer you work just as hard and take advantage of what the game gives you, you pratice like you play. Perfect pratice makes perfect play. They should be fielding a team of over 60 on varsity.
November 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Heritage vs Freedom game..
Patriots had a hard time stoping Mixon he literally ran circles around their defense. Freedom just proved they are no joke. Heritage had alot of missed tackles blow assignments bad judgements by the QB. They took out pierre carter because he got hurt.. and wasnt playing well. Heritage always ran the ball to kyree olivers side and would sometimes switch him to Right and Left tackle it was pretty obvious.. also reading where the guards pulled told you where the play was going. Kyree Oliver is not D1 material. He was getting worked by a smaller DEs Mitchell Silva and Justin Lee. Kyree Oliver also missed some of his blocks because of bad judgement where the linebackers were going to be. The Heritage coach was pretty mad at the QB he made some bad decisions and threw the ball when he should of ran it into the end zone. Mayes must of juked 5 patriots on a long scramble play. Heritage had some good possesions on offense and that was it But it was a great game.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
Freedom looked good and heritage defense just plain sux. No pass rush, and db’s are horrible. Mayes was on point that night, looked real good. Top qb in the bval. As for mixon running circles on heritage, no. Mixon had some nice gains but he was not running wild on heritage. #21 from freedom looked better running the ball than mixon. #21 hits the hole faster. I believe Avila from heritage was the one who ran wild on freedom defense. Avila had about 17 touches for over 100 yards. It’s too bad heritage tried to pass more. Poti also was getting good gains on the ground. Freedom was the better team. Heritage had no answer to freedom’s passing game. Heritage should have stayed on the ground and control the clock. The run game was working, but decided to pass after gaining yards on the run. Too many 3 and outs. A few series all heritage wanted to do was pass. Congrats to freedom. Do or die for heritage and dv next week. Hope our bval teams represent in the playoffs.
November 5th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
The Heritage QB had a concussion…that’s why he was removed. Mixon didn’t run circles around Heritage D…He got smashed most of the time! #21 quicker and more talent. Heritage DB’s looked slow …they were usually in the right place but could not get it done. Not very athletic. Way to many missed tackles…looked very young!
November 6th, 2011 at 1:14 am
Freedoms young.. too
November 6th, 2011 at 1:14 am
Their whole o-line are juniors except for 62
November 6th, 2011 at 2:16 am
joe
ur going off of hear say, not everything u hear are true or exactly what people say, yes sims missed the all league meeting, but ur going on hear say with what ur saying is no facts to it, i cant even say u have been to a game in the past few years, talk what u know, those kids play for each other, most of them played youth football with the berkeley cougars or now the junior bears and been in school together since elementary.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:35 am
also, heritage did not run on kyree oliver’s side the whole time. there were times kyree was benched and was not even in because of missed assignmet and blocks. i do agree that oliver is not d1 player (now), but you cant teach size. that is all what the college coaches see. oliver does get beat a lot on the line by much smaller dline man, and miss blocks, same story all year long. i dont know what game bval expert was watching, but obviously a different game. good luck to oliver after the season. i’m sure he will go to a college for a full ride. he should get better with better training. we shall see.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:03 am
@ BVAL Expert & Hsfootball,
I hate to jump in the middle of some Brentwood ruckus, but at this point in the season (week# 10) the argument that a team is young no longer applies. They have played a full season. Pitt has only one senior on the O-Line and D-Line. The rest are juniors. I don’t think Galli has used the “we are young” line to rationalize away bad play.
Can anyone explain Antioch to me? How do they lose to Liberty and blowout DV? Both Freedom and Heritage have played Antioch. Are they that good (against DV) or that bad (against Liberty)?
November 6th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Hey Pitt grunt that’s a ? Pitt will find out on Thursday this week. I ask the ? How did Pitt lose to Dv after beating down Freedom. Any given Friday I guess is the answer . Hey all BVAL games are Thursday nite this week due to holiday on Friday. Pitt and Antioch first Night game since the beginning of time? Hahaha.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:29 am
San Leandro Vs BOD thursday night … should be a good one
November 6th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Is that BOD vs SL gonna be at Chabot Thursday night??
November 6th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
yeah its at Chabot
November 6th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
@ hs school football,
Yes, that is a ? and Pitt won’t find out on Thursday. The Pitt-Antioch game is on Friday night.
Don’t know why.
Regarding your ???? Don’t really thing I could come up with a specific reason other than a let down after Freedom, not taking DV seriously, or players heads up their backside…..maybe all of the above. Pitt will motivated. Outright league title is at stake.
Should be fun.