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East Bay prep football recap: Campolindo perfect; Logan, Salesian next?
By Jon Becker
Saturday, November 5th, 2011 at 2:10 am in Uncategorized.
Campolindo High, the East Bay’s No. 6-ranked team, wraps up its regular season in perfect form, finishing 10-0, thanks to Friday night’s 31-22 win over No. 13 Las Lomas.
Meanwhile, top-ranked De La Salle was too much for Granada, handing the Matadors a 42-0 loss as the Spartans starters held Granada to nine yards in the first half.
Elsewhere, No. 2 James Logan and No. 7 Salesian are both now 9-0 and remain the East Bay’s other unbeaten teams. Logan and Salesian both wrap up regular season play next Saturday.
Here’s the link to our weekly prep football recap, where you’ll find links to stories on each game played on Friday night, plus a slideshow of photos from the games.
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November 5th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Some drama heading into the final week . . . Amador Valley needs a win against Foothill to become playoff-eligible, a tall task indeed . . . Heritage and Deer Valley battle in an elimination game, who would have thought that would be the case this year . . . Clayton Valley will likely qualify for playoffs with a win over Ygnacio Valley, but nothing is guaranteed . . . Antioch just posted their playoff-application validating win over Deer Valley, but a decent showing against Pitt would go a long way in avoiding a matchup with Pitt, Freedom, or Cal in the first round . . . a lot of other games of importance around the Bay Area as well, this is what we love about the race to the finish each year.
November 5th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Congratulations to the Campolindo Cougars and their undefeated regular season. As if that wasn’t enough, their JV team went a perfect 10-0 and their freshman team, after losing their first game to Napa, ran the table; 29 consecutive wins for the program. Very De La Salleesque.
For their efforts they get a bye the last week of the regular season and look forward to their #3 seeding in what will certainly be an entertaining D3 NCS playoffs.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Antioch has to be one of the surprise victory’s Friday night….It sure didn’t look like the Panthers would stop Deer valley….I talked to a number of the Antioch kids earler this year and they were high on a good season….And dropping a game to Liberty sure did not look good at all…but to rebound and beat Deer Valley 42-28 has to be a great win along with the win over Napa earlier this season…Now they have to gear up for Pittsburg which is no easy task…
November 5th, 2011 at 11:08 am
D3 is going to be THE tournament to watch this year. What a collection of great football teams.
November 5th, 2011 at 11:12 am
George Manley,
I’ve been saying all year that Antioch is for real this year. They handled Miramonte pretty well at a scrimmage in preseason and I was shocked! We scrimmaged alot of teams and “won” most of the time, but that was the only time we really got clearly beaten.
DFAL Guy,
Campo is a phenomenal team and they deserve their DFAL trophy. However, my best guess is that they play O’Dowd in the second round of the playoffs and I think they have a match-up problems. In addition, I think O’Dowd is one of the best balanced teams around. I would put my money on O’Dowd to beat Campo.
November 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am
MiraMan, this is how I see the seeding going if El Cerrito loses to Berkeley and O’Dowd wins against San Leandro next week:
#1 Cardinal Newman
#2 Marin Catholic
#3 Campolindo
#4 Encinal
#5 Bishop O’Dowd
#6 Miramonte
#7 El Cerrito
#8 Eureka
#9 Novato
The top 4 seeds are set in stone, but after that it becomes less certain. As you see I am predicting a rematch between Campolindo & Miramonte in the second round. If El Cerrito wins I think they take the #5 seed, everyone else moves down a notch and you would be right in a second round match-up between Campolindo & O’Dowd.
Should they play O’Dowd I disagree with the match-up problem. Campolindo has the most athletic secondary in the East Bay with 25 interceptions or so this season. Don’t you remember what they did to Anderson just a few short weeks ago? Miroglio would suffer the same fate. The best way to attach Campolindo is on the ground.
Frankly, I don’t see anyone other than Cardinal Newman who might be able to slow down the Campo offense; certainly not O’Dowd.
November 5th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
My understanding was that CN losing their QB a few weeks ago may set them back, is this true? I think Campo is being overlooked, friend of mine saw them earlier this yr and felt that Campo was highly underrated. Friend is an Asst. coach @ local D1 program, needless to say, knows the x, o better than i do! Going to try to catch some of the D3 games this yr. hopefully some are on Saturday.
November 5th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
time to start predicting seedings w just 1 week to go…basing my predictions on what i think they will end up getting based on last opponent obviously a win or loss could sway some seedings
D1
#1 – DLS
#2 – Logan
#3 – SRV – the big debate but common opponents will not be enough to sway to a higher side when you have 2 more losses. but really irrelevant since if they meet in semi’s logan will be home team regardless
#4 – Freedom – just misses out on top 3
#5 – Cal..at 7-3 still enough to keep ahead of trailers w all the recent losses. realistically the granada loss didnt hurt other than they will have to go to freedom if they meet.
#6 – Pitt..
#7 – MV..edges out berkeley and SL on strength of schedule..bhigh beat pitt..sl beat bhigh, but sl loss to tennyson really hurts
#8 – San Leandro..beat berkeley so slide ahead
#9 – berkeley…regardless playing each other
here is where gets interesting…
#10 – if AV beats foothill they go hear..if not dont qualify..foothill out regardless
DV or heritage..winner here, loser going home…but i am picking DV to win..which oddly enough then slides antioch above w head to head win..so
#11 – antioch based on that
#12 – deer valley
#13 – castro valley..as long as win 1 of last 2 they qualify and will go hear no matter what..
#14 – irvington oddly enough qualifies w 1-1 record vs d1..
nobody has a chance..so looks like 14 are in..the only excitement to me is AV vs foothill and dv vs heritage…other than that pretty cut and dry unless mv upsets srv..then mv could slide up to 6..pitt may drop to 7..and freedom would hop srv for the 3…cal would remain the same..since if each beat 1 of 2 between mv, cal, srv..srv’s non league schedule gets them the nod.
November 5th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
oops..heritage qualifies regardless as the independence win is a d1 size school therefore counted as one so would finish w .500 record vs d1 regardless…so slide hertage after dv at 12 and push everyone down one.
November 5th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Earlier this year KillerD pounded the drums of Antioch, and last week fretted over some people touting a 4-4 Deer Valley squad.
Antioch rings true
November 5th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Norcalball….Just with what you have listed presents some great games….There will be run-a-ways…but the bulk should be knock-down drag-out games….Again this year…DLS shouldn’t have any trouble with anybody unless they get a rash of injuries or something funny happens…Next weeks games will be serious….so these will be the ones to watch…
November 5th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
DFAL Guy,
Congrats to Campo on their undefeated season. I don’t think they will be seeded over Encinal (9-1). In EB and Chronicle polls, Campo is ranked behind Encinal and with Encinal winning each week, I do not anticipate them jumping over them in the ranking. History is on the side of the Jets, Remember – Marin Catholic was undefeated and heavily favored at home last year and ultimately the Jets went on to their 4th Championship game in the last 4 years.
Jets Pride !!
November 5th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
DFAL Guy,
I disagree with some of your rankings. Basically, I am making two assumptions. First, the NCS will look at record, and unless their is very compelling reason, they will not rank a team with more losses over a team with less (i.e. O’Dowd over Miramonte). Second, if two teams have the same record, they will look at quality wins as opposed to getting into some hypothetical analysis about close losses, etc. Please don’t confuse this with my opinion of ranking from best to worse, I just don’t think that the people doing the rankings are going to do as much “hyperanalysis” as us fans do.
Based on these two assumptions, I would rate as follows:
1. Marin Catholic (I can’t see a strong case for CN as #1 with the MC win over Vacaville)
2. Cardinal Newman (tie pushes them to #2)
3. Campo (actually a strong case for #2, but everyone’s drinking the CN koolaid)
4. Miramonte (or Encinal, but Miramonte has stronger wins)
5. Encinal (or Miramonte)
6. O’Dowd (two losses to teams that aren’t that spectacular)
7. Novato (two losses but got stronger as season wore on)
8. Eureka (good wins over Del Norte and Shasta, really need win over Fortuna or will drop)
9. El Cerrito (project loss to Berkeley to finish 7-2-1)
10. Tennyson (Good record will impress despite limited cometition)
11. Tamalpais (Wins over San Marin and Drake)
12. Del Norte (Biggest win is over pint-sized Ferndale)
13. Hercules (Same as Tennyson)
14. Analy (Strong team, but to many losses)
15. San Marin
16. Drake
Obviously, I had to make some assumptions about wins/losses in remaining games. I’m a rookie at this so I’ll learn more after I see how they actually do this.
November 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
d2..really really down this year so anything could go..
#1 – windsor..about the only sure thing at this point
#2 – los lomas..benefits from concord loss
#3 – rancho cotate..no real bad losses going to be a tough team again
#4 – concord edges casa grande bc they have better losses..casa has 2 suspect losses.but college park going to be league winner so i think u have to jump them above concord even w 1 more loss and some ugly margin of victory losses..therefore i am going with college park…
#5 – concord..see above
#6 – casa grande..ukiah loss and el molina loss keeps them down here..at least cp losses vs top d1 foes
#7 – carillo – been playing real well down the stretch and have key wins over ukiah and montgomery..
#8 – newark..should finish 5-3-1..best win is american but also the el cerrito tie…they could go as high as 7 too…
#9 – dublin…like i said could see all 3 of these teams being jumbled up..but dublin must be dougherty valley to keep pace as well…near loss vs #2 los lomas could help…problem no really big d2 win to hang at on.but at 6-4 wont go any lower than this.
#10 – clayton valley..northgate loss hurts..but should finish 6-4 and played antioch and cp tough at least…but again liberty (non playoff qualifier) is best win..doesn’t show well..
#11 – American – should finish 5-5..lost to newark and most games were supposed to..biggest win is washington so not great but better than many of the rest.
#12 – ukiah..as long as they beat piner they are in..but casa grande win week 1 is only thing keeping them off life support..but should they lose to piner they dont even qualify. they haven’t even been competitve in losses and definately a poor cal preps rating..
#13 – pinole valley..haven’t been what we are used to but still should finish 6-4 and good enough to get in..
#14 – washington..3-7 most likely finish..but 6 of 7 losses to d1 opponents, nobodies SOS comes close except maybe montgomery.. played most of the best teams in the east bay..and were quite competitve in most..in comparision to other teams around here that were blown out vs every good team they played..also have the newark win.
#15 – montgomery..same argument used for washington use here..very tough schedule and competitve in most..but washingtons newark win trumps montgomery’s ukiah win..
#16 – northgate..big win is clayton valley which was big to keep playoff hopes alive..most likely lsoe to concord..but i think the quality win gets them in..
knocks arroyo out of final spot..arroyo should finish at 4-5..an upset over tennyson puts them in, but loss keeps them out..they have no good win and plenty of bad losses..to me every playoff team should have at least one quality win..arroyo doesnt have that and they weren’t competitive in losses either..
hayward could qualify but lost to arroyo so not getting in if they aren’t..
redwood qualifies at 3-7..but no decent wins and a ton of ugly losses…
alameda qualifies but two d2 wins vs teams combined 0-20 no chance
November 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Assuming that there are no upsets next week (which of course may not be the case), I see AV losing to Foothill and not making the playoffs, Heritage losing to DV but still getting in despite a 4-6 record as they’d be 4-4 vs. D1 teams. I don’t think the committee would put Freedom ahead of Pitt as Pitt would have both the BVAL automatic qualifier and the head to head over Freedom despite Freedom’s better record. Regardless, if they win they will most likely both be seeded ahead of 7-3 Cal. Ths is my most likely scenario headinginto the final week:
1. DLS 9-1 (EBAL 1)
2. Logan 10-0 (MVAL 1)
3. SRV 8-2 (EBAL 2)
4. Pitt 7-3 (BVAL 1)
5. Freedom 9-1 (BVAL 2)
6. Cal 7-3 (EBAL 3)
7. MV 5-5 (EBAL 4)
8. DV 5-5 (BVAL 3)
9. Berkeley 7-3 (ACCAL 1)
10. Heritage 4-6 (BVAL 4)
11. SL 6-4 (HAAL 3)
12. Antioch 6-4 (BVAL 5)
13. CV 4-5 (HAAL 4)
14. Irvington 4-5 (MVAL 5)
1st round games:
Byes: DLS, Logan
#14 Irvington at #3 SRV
#13 CV at #4 Pitt
#12 Antioch at #5 Freedom
#11 SL at #6 Cal
#10 Heritage at #7 MV
#8 DV at #9 Berkeley
November 5th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
well d3..now to most competitve division by far…
im ok w the #1-#9..not much debate there…
#10 – tennyson..getting a d1 win over sl has to put them here, plus great record
#11 – analy – close loss to mira enough to keep them here and no bad losses
#12 – san marin..beat acalanes so keeps them above
#13 – acalanes..alhambra and dougherty win and were competitve in every game other than campo
#14 – tamalipis..cal preps has them severly overanked IMO..2 bad losses..makes them on bubble
#15 – del norte..ferndale win gets them in
#16 – alhambra wont qualify..so ill go w drake and the justin siena win…but could see hercules getting this especially if they upset pinole valley..they will definately be in..no bad losses though but no good ones either..so gonna be tough for them to get in..win and in..lose and probably 1st team out.
November 5th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
prep fan,
yeah i could see your freedom vs pitt argument…just thinking 2 games may be too much..plus the gaudy cal preps ranking which you know the committee will at least peek at…but agree could definately see that and if that happens it will definately bump cal, bc freedom will for surely get seeded above them.
av vs foothill…definatley going to be a great game i think it will be a defensive struggle…i think 1st one to 14 might win…
apples and oranges after that..i do think dv might have a tough time jumping berkeley with 2 less wins though after the tough loss to antioch..which in turn could cause sl to jump as well..so interesting to see where comittee goes..where one adjusment could force 2 or 3 others…
November 5th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Norcalfball, I forgot SL beat Berkeley but Berkeley also beat Pitt so that may keep them afloat. Had DV kept winning and set up a 3-way BVAL tie, then I think Freedom may have gotten the top seed of the 3 due to overall records, but with just Pitt & Freedom it may be harder for the committee to put the league champ behind the 2nd place team. If MV beats SRV, I still don’t see them passing Pitt due to their head to head loss, but they would then be tied with SRV in the EBAL with 5-2 records and Cal would end up 4th at 4-3.
So it looks like DV and AV are the 2 bubble teams that need to win to make the field. I see DV beating Heritage with the game at DV, but having seen AV last night, I think Foothill will beat them especially with the game at Foothill. Still a lot of good football to be played before the pairings are set.
November 5th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I still think Logan gets the #2 seed and are a very good team, but with Foothill and possibly Heritage out of the playoffs (their 2 toughest opponents), and a 2.3 strength of schedule per CalPreps they just haven’t played anybody since the Pitt Jamboree/scrimmage. I hope they are watching film on some of the top 10 D1 teams so they are at least aware of what they might be facing come playoff time and not think they can just show up like they do in MVAL games.
November 5th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Heritage vs Freedom game..
Patriots had a hard time stoping Mixon he literally ran circles around their defense. Freedom just proved they are no joke. Heritage had alot of missed tackles blow assignments bad judgements by the QB. They took out pierre carter because he got hurt.. and wasnt playing well. Heritage always ran the ball to kyree olivers side and would sometimes switch him to Right and Left tackle it was pretty obvious.. also reading where the guards pulled told you where the play was going. Kyree Oliver is not D1 material. He was getting worked by a smaller DEs Mitchell Silva and Justin Lee. Kyree Oliver also missed some of his blocks because of bad judgement where the linebackers were going to be. The Heritage coach was pretty mad at the QB he made some bad decisions and threw the ball when he should of ran it into the end zone. Mayes must of juked 5 patriots on a long scramble play. Heritage had some good possesions on offense and that was it But it was a great game.
November 5th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
I was disappointed in the lackluster prep coverage in today’s print version of the Times. Most of the games were listed as “late” with no scores, despite the live scoreboard available to them. Only the DLS article even made it, proably because it was DLS and their game ended so quickly with a running clock. I saw reporter Matt Smith typing up the Cal-AV story in his car immediately after the game and somewhow not even the score made it into the paper? I know the paper is going through a lot of tough changes, but that is not a positive change. I do appreciate all the online stories and scores available and the work that Ben, Jimmy & Co. do but I am concerned that the print version is just fading to black.
November 5th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Freedom will not pass up Pitt on the seedings because Freedom lost to pitt in the season. There will be a tie for the BVAL champ but Pitt will remain on top because freedom lost to pitt.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Since we’re essentially one week away from the end of the regular season, here’s another crack at playoff predictions for NCS.
D-I
Already qualified – DLS, SRV, Freedom, Logan, Cal, Pitt, Monte Vista, Berkeley, Antioch, San Leandro, Irvington and the winner of the Deer Valley/Heritage game.
Still alive to qualify – Amador Valley, Castro Valley
My prediction for the seedings/first round:
BYE vs. #1 DLS
BYE vs. #2 Logan
#14 Irvington vs. #3 SRV
#13 Castro Valley vs. #4 California
#12 Antioch @ #5 San Leandro
#11 Heritage/Deer Valley @ #6 Berkeley
#10 Amador Valley @ #7 Pittsburg
#9 Freedom @ #8 Monte Vista
In order to avoid having UC Rancher go into a fit of rage, I went ahead and plugged Logan in at 2 instead of at 3. As it’s been pointed out many times, it really won’t matter since Logan would host that game, but another reason would be if 14 teams qualify (Amador Valley’s more iffy than Castro Valley, but it’s hard to say how Foothill will respond to being eliminated before their finale) then forcing Logan to play Irvington again seems silly, so give them the first round bye. Using the head to head matchups, San Leandro beat Berkeley, Berkeley beat Pitt, Pitt beat both Monte Vista and Freedom, so to me that sets up seeds 5 through 9 (you can quibble about the 8/9 seeding of MV and Freedom). I plugged Amador Valley in at 10 to avoid any BVAL first round rematches. If Deer Valley qualifies, this could get dicey because of their win over Pitt.
Predicted NCS Championship Game – De La Salle vs. San Ramon Valley
November 5th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
D-II
Already qualified – Windsor, Concord, Las Lomas, Rancho Cotate, Casa Grande, College Park, Dublin, Montgomery, Carillo, Clayton Valley, Newark Memorial, American, Arroyo, Pinole Valley, Redwood, Hayward, Alameda and apparently Dougherty Valley (thanks to the ability to count a win over Riordan as a D-II win)
Likely to qualify –Ukiah, Washington, Northgate
It looks for all the world like there will be 21 qualified teams in D-II. There are already 18, and all three in the “Likely to qualify” category have to win very winnable games to get there. So which 5 teams get left out? I start with four teams that I suspect will be 3-7 – Alameda, Hayward, Redwood and Dougherty Valley. Alameda’s three wins are against teams with a collective record of 1-25, Hayward’s is 2-24, Dougherty Valley’s is 4-21 (and they’re likely to go winless in league) and Redwood’s is 5-19. I caution that the Redwood Empire seems to get the benefit of the doubt over East Bay teams, so don’t be shocked if Redwood ends up getting in… The last team out is trickier, but I’m going with Washington, who will also likely finish at 3-7. The win over Newark and the tough non-league schedule may get them in over presumably 4 win teams like Arroyo and Northgate, but in the end 3-7 gets them my “last team out” status.
My prediction for the seedings/first round
#16 Arroyo @ #1 Windsor
#15 Pinole Valley @ #2 Rancho Cotate
#14 American @ #3 Las Lomas
#13 Clayton Valley @ #4 College Park
#12 Ukiah @ #5 Concord
#11 Northgate @ #6 Casa Grande
#10 Montgomery @ #7 Dublin
#9 Newark Memorial @ #8 Carrillo
There are so many variables still in play here that this is kind of a crapshoot. Windsor’s a lock for the 1 seed, and I believe Rancho Cotate will get the 2 seed over Las Lomas because of both the Redwood Empire bias as well as the fact that the DFAL is made up more of D-III teams compared to the primarily D-II NBL. College Park’s win over Concord gets them the 4 seed. I still think Casa’s bad losses to Ukiah (who may be screaming that they should be seeded ahead of Casa) and El Molino (who was eliminated in D-IV) drops them to 6. I have Dublin over Carrillo because of what happened when both played Benicia (Dublin won, Carrillo lost). Carrillo is ahead of Montgomery (head to head), but I bumped Newark Memorial up there to avoid the first round rematch. Northgate has a head to head win over Clayton Valley, so I have them seeded higher, and then Ukiah to avoid a CV rematch with Concord (and based on the win over Casa Grande). American’s win over Washington is more impressive than anything Arroyo or Pinole Valley have done, so I put them at 14, and then I put Pinole Valley at 15 because I expect them to beat Hercules and finish above .500.
Predicted NCS Championship game – Windsor vs. Rancho Cotate
November 5th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
D-III
Already qualified – Marin Catholic, Cardinal Newman, Campo, Novato, Miramonte, BOD, Eureka, Encinal, El Cerrito, Analy, Del Norte, Tamalpais, San Marin, Tennyson, Drake, Hercules
Likely to qualify – I don’t think any other team is “likely,” but Acalanes could get there if they can beat Las Lomas at home. Also, Kennedy (Richmond) has a decent chance of beating Piedmont. So let’s base the seedings on the teams that we know are in…
My prediction for the seedings/first round
#16 Drake @ #1 Marin Catholic
#15 San Marin @ #2 Campolindo
#14 Tamalpais @ #3 Cardinal Newman
#13 Analy @ #4 Encinal
#12 Hercules @ #5 Bishop O’Dowd
#11 Del Norte @ #6 Miramonte
#10 Tennyson @ #7 Novato
#9 El Cerrito @ #8 Eureka
I’m not sure there are many “locks” here, and there’s not a lot of head-to-head for comparison. I put the two teams that will presumably finish with perfect regular seasons at the top, with Marin Catholic’s tougher schedule warranting the top seed over Campo. Cardinal Newman’s tie with Palma puts them at the 3 seed and Encinal’s overtime loss to Serra slots them at 4. I penciled O’Dowd in at 5 over Miramonte, but think that could go either way. I went with running the table in league over a second place team. I then put Novato over Eureka due to head-to-head, and El Cerrito next. However, the teams I have from 4 to 9 are close enough that the committee could scramble them up very differently and without many differences with common opponents it would be hard to argue. Tennyson could legitimately end up 9-1 and be the 10 seed, and I don’t think a 9-1 team would fall behind Del Norte. Hercules will also finish with a good record, but without any impressive wins I couldn’t put them ahead of Del Norte. I then plugged Analy in thanks to some iffy losses by Tamalpais, and San Marin next because they lost to both Analy and Tamalpais, leaving Drake for the final seed.
Predicted NCS Championship game – Marin Catholic vs. Cardinal Newman
November 5th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
D-IV
Already qualified – Salesian, Fortuna, Healdsburg, Ferndale, Valley Christian, St. Helena, Justin-Siena, St. Mary’s, Berean Christian, Moreau Catholic, Willits, Arcata, Middletown, Clear Lake
Likely to qualify – Ft. Bragg
Piedmont could also qualify – they play what amounts to an elimination game against Kennedy (Richmond) next week. If they do, that would be 16 teams, so every qualified team in D-IV would go to the playoffs.
My prediction for the seedings/first round
#16 @ #1 Salesian
#15 Ft. Bragg @ #2 Ferndale
#14 Clear Lake @ #3 Fortuna
#13 Arcata @ #4 Healdsburg
#12 Middletown @ #5 St. Helena
#11 Moreau Catholic @ #6 Berean Christian
#10 St. Mary’s @ #7 Valley Christian
#9 Justin-Siena @ #8 Willits
By comparison with D-III, D-IV is pretty straightforward. Salesian is unquestionably the 1 seed. Ferndale beat Fortuna, Fortuna beat Healdsburg, which sets up 2-4. St. Helena beat Berean Christian, who beat Valley Christian. I think St. Helena’s weak schedule makes it tough to move them up ahead of any of the 2-4 seeds, but at 10-0 they might sneak up a notch. I have 8-2 Willits at #8, and if they beat St. Helena in the finale they would move up and drop everybody else down a spot. Justin-Siena beat St. Mary’s, St. Mary’s beat Moreau, so they plug in as 9-11. Middletown and Arcata are pretty interchangeable for 12 and 13, while Clear Lake beat Ft. Bragg to get the 14 seed. If Piedmont wins and qualifies, they probably slot into that 14 seed.
Predicted NCS Championship Game – Salesian vs. Ferndale
November 5th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
D-V
Already qualified – Hoopa Valley, St. Bernard’s Upper Lake, Tomales, CSD, Emery
Could qualify – St. Vincent
Every qualified team could go to the playoffs, including Emery
My prediction for the seedings/first round
BYE vs. #1 St. Bernard’s
BYE vs. #2 Hoopa Valley
#6 Emery @ #3 Tomales
#5 California School for the Deaf @ #4 Upper Lake
I have St. Bernard’s as the 1 seed over Hoopa Valley based on their head-to-head. I have CSD behind both Tomales and Upper Lake based on the fact that CSD’s wins are over teams with a combined 7-42 to date, and since Tomales beat Upper Lake already they got the 3 seed. If St. Vincent wins another game, they would qualify and get the 6 seed over Emery.
Predicted NCS Championship Game – St. Bernard’s vs. Hoopa Valley
November 5th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
This is the way I see D III
1. Marin Catholic 10-0
2. Cardinal Newman 9-0-1
3. Campolindo 10-0
4. Encinal 9-1 weak SOS or 9-1 Miramonte
5. Miramonte 9-1 or Encinal 9-1
6. BOD 8-2 8 game win streak or Novato 8-2 6 game win
streak
7. Novato or BOD
8. Eureka 8-2 or 7-3 last game vs Fortuna is a coin flip game and cannot be ranked above Novato
9. El Cerrito 7-2-1 they will not beat Berkeley
10.Tamalpias 7-3
11 forward we need all of Saturdays scores and it could come down to the last week for some
November 5th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Hs football fan,
Need to do some homework..washington has already qualified..1-1 vs d2 opponents..riordan is not d2..they have 1140 students not sure if means already doubled or need to double based on cal preps enrollment..either way they are d3 or double that number and d1..dougherty must beat dublin to qualify..your logic and rankings make sense and understand how u can leave washington off at 3-7 if u r going to use the record argument then montgomery in same boat as they are 3-7 and u have them as 10 seed..both played tough schedules but washingtons were vs d1 opponents..an i think there newark win trumps the ukiah win for montgomery..but i think they both get in as you reward teams that test themselves..both teams probably have 6 wins at least if u traded schedules w most the bottom teams..i dont see how arroyo gets in without a quality win..to deserve a playoff spot at any level you must have a great record arroyo doesnt or a quality win or even play your losses close..they didnt do any of the 3..4 wins not a good record, best win is hayward and they were blown out in every loss..now if they can beat tennyson then it will be more interasting..
November 5th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
DIV-III
Top three are locks.
Miramonte should be a lock at #4 since their only loss is to an undefeated team. They also beat two teams that will be seeded in DIV-II. Encinal lost to a team that already has two losses and has no victories over quality opponents. BOD loss to a 3-5-1 team, Novato loss to a 3-6 team. If EC can beat Berkeley they could leap as high as #4, but I don’t see that happening:
1. MC (League Champ)
2. Campo (LC)
3. CN (LC)
4. Mira
5. Encinal (LC)
6. BOD (LC)
7. Novato
8. EC or Eureka (either could be a LC with win and move-up)
Even though I think Miramonte is a lock at #4, most likely they would be playing a LC second round and have to travel.
November 5th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
castro valley just whipped Tennyson
November 5th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
1.MC- Beat Vacaville who beat Granite bay,
2.Cn Beat a good VC team and “TIED” a palma which gives them the second seed under marin
3.Campo, No arguing a undefeated team
4. Encinal- History is more on the side of this ranking over miramonte.
5. El cerrito. Played a campo team tougher then miramonte they get the NOD * this is subject to change if they lose to berkeley
6. Miramonte, Got there A$$ kicked by campo… and ross anderson is a stud, EC played campo tough i have a really tough time putting them ahead of EC.
7 .Bishop o dowd- probably be a nightmare for any team, ANd dont be surprised if you see them in the championship.
8. Novato- ever since that nasty lost to MC this team has been on a roll. Might be a dangerous team.
* top 4 is a lock but the rankings will soft them selfs out after EC plays Berkeley, because thats the one with all the dominoes there will be a lot of weigh on the game.
November 5th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
If anyone was in attendance last night at the El Cerrito & De Anza game, you would’ve seen a number of starters not suited up, and a number of others taking a humble bow at half time. Grades just came out, so some kids probably didn’t make the cut. Berkeley is a great team, no question. Could El Cerrito ever beat them? Hasn’t been seen since 2006. They’re due, and they have the talent to get it.
November 5th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Hey Ben and jimmy just wondering when the article about the Cream of the Crop for 2013 comes out?
November 5th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
We’re a ways off from the 2013 Cream of the Crop. The Crop for the 2012 class (current seniors) will come out in January. That will also include our list of the top candidates for the 2013 class.
November 5th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Anyone have score of yv and northgate?
November 5th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Miramonte got their pants pulled down against Campo they played with a running clock in the 4th quarter. Campo being undefeated means nothing look at their schedule. Serra would kill Campo. Miramonte has a quality win against LL. Better then Encinal St. Mary’s. If Encinal can sell that their only loss could of been a tie & that they are a league champ they should get the 4 seed. It wouldn’t surprise me if Miramonte lost Alhambra.
November 5th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
It showed last year that the committe will see past a just a 9-1 record & see Strength of schedule. Look at what happened with BOD, Encinal, & CN last year.
November 5th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Are you kidding me. Campo over Encinal. Not to mention Mira that didn’t even win their league. I give some respect to MC and CN since they are League Champs and have been to championship in the last four years. Campo/Mira no where to be found. Upstarts are OK but results speaks volumes. Since 2008, NCS champs are Encinal, MC, CN with Encinal in all Championship games. By the way, I see them there again. I understand 10-0 is a game better than 9-1 and you can add SOS, better uniforms and press coverage to their list of why they should win but do Campo know what it takes to win in the playoffs. Encinal has shown they can win regardless of seeding or perception. Campo not so much. I’ll wait for 22ATW (Nailhouse Thing) to take on the whichever opponent is on the other side of the line. The field don’t matter, the team does.
PS. You can buy your ticket online to the Championship game if you want to attend.
jet Pride!
November 5th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Last year Encinal’s only lost was to Serra and their BSAL opponents were better, Alameda was better, and they played El Cerrito. Last year Miramonte’s only lost was to LL, but they were only average, yet the committee seated Miramonte ahead of Encinal. Knowing this you would think Encinal would have tried to schedule a little tougher non-league schedule, instead they made only one change, Hayward for El Cerrito. I guess San Lorenzo already had a full schedule.
You have to list your three most significant VICTORIES against DIV-III opponents. For Encinal that is JFK-Richmond and Albany, Albany, that’s right. Albany is going to get listed as a significant VICTORY by a DIV-III automatic qualifier. Encinal can’t list a third because they played five lousy DIV-IV teams.
You also have to list your three most significant VICTORIES against higher DIV opponents. For Encinal, only two again, Hayward and Alameda. That’s a 4 point win over Alameda. Get real!
November 5th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
armstrongJets your 22ATW is old BS the Jets have suited up 31 players for Varsisty for the last 4 weeks please give it a rest. With the JV call ups the Jets will roll out 40 on the side line please.
I also noticed Coach T and the boys at the Novato game today. I find that odd since CN was playing today as well.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Where do you get 31 players from?? I think the Jets went as high as maybe 26 this year. I think there might be 40-45 players in the entire Jets program. I conted 22 last night at JFK.
FB Guru points aren’t a part of the committee’s criteria. If it were you could look at Miramonte getting THRASHED 42-0 & playing with a running clock against Campo. Barely beating a very average Analy. Had a game with a weak Liberty team. Beating LL without their starting QB while Campo took them apart at full strength. Not a part of the criteria. I don’t belive the hype on Miramonte. & it really looks like Miramonte tried to schedule tough. Looked for the weakest teams they could find. That whoile DFAL non-league is can.
All that counts is that they beat Alameda it doesn’t matter that Alameda was a close game. Its already been listed that the Jets tried to schedule CN, Granda, LL, SRV for week one. They dropped EC it seemed like the right thing to do at the time but hindsight is alwasy 20/20. Encinal is the goods this year & I think everybody here knows they are top 3 team.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Scoop in regards to post #32 No way EC gets a seed higher than both BOD and Novato.
In the end it is a mute point Berkeley is peaking at the end of their season they have an extra weeks rest and extra time to prepare. Berkeley 35 EC 7
November 5th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Perkins I counted 31 players at Swett and the St. Pats game. Once a player moves to the show they cant go back so where did they go.
According to oldformermeddlingcoach they have not lost any players to injury or grades so where did they all go????
November 5th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
I think when it comes to the seedings it is not who we think the best teams are with out proving it.
AS GOOD AS THE JETS ARE THEY HAVE NOT PROVED IT ON THE FIELD THIS SEASON.
And because of that the will get dinged by the seeding committee
November 5th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
I guess you don’t catch the end of the JV games there were 2 -3 kids that had stickers on buddy. You counted wrong for John Swett. There aren’t that many in the program. Look for kids wearing Var jerseys. I think one of their Var Sophmores was lost too grades. Still 6 of them playing Var.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
You could be right but the Jets will be League champs so it only really matters if another league champ is seeeded ahead of them. 4 seed is a good place. They’ll host 2 games.
November 5th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
BleacherCoach, That’s is indeed what i wrote two weeks ago but we have not had 31 guys on Varsity. You must have seen JV players standing on the sidelines. Jet Pride!
November 5th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Talk about a tough bracket 1-4-5-8 go in Bracket 1.
MC, Encinal, Miramonte and BOD or Novato.
Round 2 will have some great games
CN with 2 seed get a much easier road I think
November 5th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
BleacherCoach, Yes, I wrote that TWO weeks Ago, Besides,At no point did we have 31 players in uniform. You must have seen JV players on the sidelines. Jet Pride!
November 5th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Its gonna be a great D3 play-offs I can’t wait.
November 6th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Post #34 was from a PrepFan as opposed to my handle Prep Fan. I know that the 2013 Cream of the Crop won’t be coming out for about 14 months or so. :0
November 6th, 2011 at 12:24 am
Amador lost 2 receivers for next week’s game due to injury last night (A broken finger and a concussion). They are pretty beat up and I just think that since Foothill has now missed the playoffs for the first time in 20 years, Sweeney will have them pretty fired up to face their cross town rivals in what amounts to their own personal playoff game in a spoiler role.
November 6th, 2011 at 2:46 am
bleacher coach your a novato fan so how dare you attack me, Can you refresh my memory the last TWO! count em the last TWO times NOVATO PLAYED ENCINAL PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE….. or since your a big marin fan can you please tell me PLEASE tell me who beat marin last year THE ALL MIGHTY WILDCATs.. or the last 2 out of 3.. thats right buddy the ENCINAl JETS are 4 and 5 Against your two favorite teams. BUT THEN AGAIN? how can you be a novato and MARIN fan?!
GRanted this year MC will probably Win out NCS.. But I am sick of your biased ass opinions on the jets, Also I am sick and tired of some of these dumb jets people on here always commenting non Sense. BUt bleacher coach this is not about them, This is a straight direct attack on you, OR “novatoDAD” (which by the way you were 3 years ago) or “george MAntley” your THE SAME GUY!! your not fooling no one, so SHUT the hell up already, and with your bias self..
**** HOW CAN YOU NOT ARGUE!! EL CERRITO OVER MIRAMONTE and novato!???!??! HOW? They lost to CAMPO by 3. while miramonte got blown OUT by at least 30 and a running clock… NOVATO HASNT DONE NOTHING compared to MIRAMONTE or El cerrito .. SMH… YOUR A FOOL AND NO ONE I repeat no one takes you serious… your a phony CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER ME, HOW ARE YOU A MARIN CATHOLIC FAN AND A NOVATO DIE HARD FAN?!
November 6th, 2011 at 2:49 am
Also This gets me to my second point, I HATE saying this because marin is a private school, But they are the favorites, IT would be CN but matt NUmber 11 is out, ANd they favorites (if any) is marin, VERY Physical, Tough and determined to win and head to Carson for a second chance and avenge there lost in state.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Perkins,
It is 90% about the VICTORIES for the 2011 season when it comes to the seeding meeting. Here is the SOS criteria used to select the at-larges and the same criteria will be used when it comes to seeding:
2) Strength of Schedule
a. Record against top 3 opponents
b. Record against teams in the same division
List your most significant victories/defeats
c. Record against teams in a higher division
List your most significant victories
d. Head-to-head against teams which have qualified or are being considered.
e. Record against common opponents
f. Coaches’ Rating
My points were spot on. Take a good look at (a.), it doesn’t expand into an explanation. But in (b.) and (c.) you need to address your significant VICTORIES. In (d.) you have to have played good teams. Out of the 16 teams that are currently ranked in DIV-I, DIV-II, and DIV-III, Encinal is 0-47, didn’t play a single one!
There is way too much information for the committee to process, so when that happens, let a computer do it for you. The computer says:
1. MC
2. CN
3. Campo
4. Mira
5. Novato
6. BOD
7. Eureka
8. Encinal
9. EC
Any of these teams will drop if they lose in week 10, only EC or Eureka will move up if they win. If Eureka beats Fortuna they could jump to 5 and force a long bus ride for Miramonte in the 2nd round.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Scoop I can attack you because you make it easy and you use kid logic.
Yes Encinal has beat Novato the last two times they have played ,great what does that have to do with this season?
As far a being an MC and/or a Novato fan it is not about the teams it is about the KIDS. It breaks my heart to see 30 Novato kids in the MC program .Kids who have played in the Novato Pop Warner program since the Pee Wees, but at the same time how can you fault the parents for wanting to provide more for there kids.
I have watched these kids grow I know there families I I know there friends who stayed at Novato.Thats how I can root for both.
Your football logic is flawed on many levels.
Based on your statement about EC only losing to Campo by 3 is what makes them a good team? EC will end the season 7-3 they will not be league champs and have a weak SOS.
If we use your logic Alameda is a good team because they only lost to the Jets by 4 lol what a moron.
Miramonte is 9-1 and played a decent set of teams to get there and deserve the 4th seed. I do not think they will get it. It will go to the Jets.
As far as Novato goes they have played and beat 3 teams that will be in the DIII playoffs Eureka,Drake, San Marin.They play in a league that will send 4 teams to the DIII playoffs they currently have a 6 game winning streak where they have out scored their opp. 260-35 with 3 shut outs.
Lastly I have made no attempts to hide who I am. I am sure you know me just as the Jet coaches know who I am.Your lame attempt to challenge me here on the blog is comical.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:20 am
this stuff is so much better to read then all the Haters during the week trying to pick fights and act tuff
November 6th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Perkins,
One other thing, ur right, DIV-III playoffs is gonna be great this year. And this is meaningless since the Champion will be decided on the field and not in some seeding meeting.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I’ve been following the various comments including
Perkins – you say you wouldn’t be suprised if Miramonte lost to Alhambra. My only comment is that when you play in a good league with good competition that’s how it is every week. Even a 3-7 Alhambra team is very dangerous. Miramonte should win it, but this will be Alhambra’s last game and they have always set their sites on Miramonte since we have been the best in our league. It will be a great game and for better or worse I’m guessing a pretty violent affair.
Scoop – El Cerrito over Miramonte and Novato?? First, El Cerrito had better beat Berkeley or they are 7-2-1 and NO WAY they get seeded above Miramonte or Novato. Even if they finish 8-1-1, I still think the tie against Newark Memorial will be enough to place them below Miramonte. Newark Memorial would be in the cellar in DFAL based on their Calpreps rating. Their close loss to Campo is interesting, but not enough to compensate for a tie to a mediocre Neward Memorial team. If they beat Berkeley, then they should be rated above Novato and likely sit at number 7, but otherwise, they are down to number 9 in my seeding estimate (behind MC, CN, Campo, Mira, Enc, O’Dowd, Novato and Eureka).
November 6th, 2011 at 10:52 am
yo HS football fan, i knew logan was gonna get the #2 spot after they went undefeated in their non league schedule. If u notice,I didn’t start coming here posting on the these blogs til somebody accused Rashad Evans of quiting during 2007 playoff against Cal. Im Logan alum. Yes im biased at times, but I do in reality realize they had a “soft” schedule. Some of is due on their part, some of it that is out of their control (They had a two year agreement with both Arroyo and Heritage). We will see what they r all bout come playoff time. To Prep Fan, Zuber will have them ready for whoever they face. im pretty sure the way last season ended left a bad taste in their mouth. They be out for retribution.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:01 am
FB Guru Calpreps rankings takes scores into account with its power rankings. This isn’t the BCS. Its not about he computer. I’ve heard that coaches rankings use to be a pretty huge factor in the seeding. I’m of course talking when media was allowed in. I’m sure that it will be a factor now. I’m sure every coach has Encinal at a 4. If they don’t & Encinal ends up an 8 as Calpreps sees it then the Jets better use that as fuel & get it done on the road.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Wow, Northgate losing to Ygnacio Valley almost certainly will keep them from qualifying in D-II. I think that means Washington will get in. As for whether Riordan counts as a D-II win, I’m basing that off of what was written a couple of weeks ago on these blogs by Jimmy or Ben (I don’t remember which). I don’t think it will really matter, since I don’t think Dougherty Valley will get in even if they are qualified.
As for the debate about D-III, the fact that there are so few links between all of the top teams (in other words, so few common opponents) means that no matter how they get seeded there will be arguments. That said, the guys doing the seeding know the reputations of the teams going in there. I think it’s naive to think they won’t be thinking about the fact that Encinal’s been to the D-III title game each of the last 3 years and respect that in their seeding.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Perkin,
Encinal will not be #8. I know the NCS looks at other things, but in the end I’m guessing it will go down pretty close to record in D3 with MC, CN and Campo 1,2,3. Then Miramonte and Encinal 4 & 5 in some order (assuming Miramonte beats Alhambra).
I like ripping on Encinal to rile up their constuents, but their an excellent team that should be 4 or 5. I also beleive that Encinal is one of the teams the could beat a very good Campo team, but based on my guess of the way the seeding will work out, Campo would be in the other bracket.
Obviously, if Encinal and Miramonte are 4 & 5, then we shall meet in round 2. Hopefully it works out as I’ve been looking forward to a game with Encinal all year!
November 6th, 2011 at 11:27 am
I think Tenorio was really stupid to schedule Serra the last 2 years. Its common knowledge that the committee loves undefeated teams & why not can’t find any fault in it. Should of dropped Serra & added Hayward & they maybe a 2 or 3 this year. Definitely better then a 4 last year.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:39 am
bleachercoach lame excuse that you root for both in ’08 you riding novato talking shit about marin catholic i don’t want to hear it. novato’s your team will see what they do. i would love to see encinal/novato one more time hope brackett got that punt team coach up!
November 6th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
It is hard to criticize a team for playing tough competition. Sure, they could have taken the Logan route and may still be undefeated, but hopefully the kids have gained something from that Serra game and are tougher and battled tested from it to be able to take care of business in the playoffs. Going undefeated in the regular season means nothing if you can’t get it going in the playoffs.
November 6th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
#60…Miraman….You are right about Alhambra..they will be guning for Miramonte….something happened in the Campolindo game to the Bulldogs that made them come alive…The big if is the playcalling by Alhambra and the second is almost no mistakes…In any case this may be a close game…But with anderson’s running and passing it sure favors Miramonte.
November 6th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Look for El Cerrito to pull the #5 seed no questions asked if they defeat Berkeley. They would be an undefeated league winner and have defeated a D1 team (Berkeley) in the process. None of the 3 teams next in line (BOD, Miramonte & Novato) would have those kind of credentials; not to mention their only loss was by 3 to Campo.
Also, to show you the committee does consider previous year finishes, anyone who thinks Encinal would get seeded lower than #4, despite their weak schedule, hasn’t been paying attention to the seeding process the last few years.
November 6th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
great response bleacher coach, I highly respect you
November 6th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
As a Logan alum, yeah I might be biased but I do realize they played a “soft” schedule. Part their schedule was their own doing ( SL,Foothill) and part of it was out of their control( prior 2 last year, they had a two year agreement with both Arroyo and Heritage). If u look at the whole NCS D-1 landscape, other than DLS, competition has been down. Tell u the truth, I have no idea who will earn the right 2 get their heads bashed by DLS at the coliseum. However, up until this season, nobody was ripping Logan 4 their non league schedule.
November 6th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Voice of reason in the 2010 brackets Encinal ended up as the 4th seed behind a 9-1 Miramonte team who also lost to the same Cardinal Newman team that beat the Jets by just about the same margin of victory.
So by your own argument if the seeding committee looks at last years seeding and bracket wins and losses then it would make sense for the Jets to be the 5th seed
November 6th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
But you are forgetting the jets beat A marin team last year in the playoff who did miramonte beat? and the jets had cardinal Newman 7-7 in the 4 Th. last year miramonte was never really in the game, Bishop o dowd if anything almost gave them a run for their money too.
THERE is just no way IF ANd I REPEAT IF EL cerrito beats B town They will get seeded ahead of miramonte. NO doubt
November 6th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
D-3 Playoff rankings.
1.MC- Look strong again and hungry from last years upset. Might win it all
2.CN- Losing there QB won’t effect them as mush as we think. Strong Defense
3.Campo- Undefeated team with strong play at QB. Lets see what they can do.
4.Encinal- Could be 5 because SOS. Last years team much better. Maybe 2 and out
5.El Cerrito- Beat Berkeley and this is where they’ll be. If not #7. Watch out!
6.Miramonte- Campo loss like that hurts. Don’t see them winning more than 2
7.BOD- Sleeper team. Athletes, depth and size at all positions.
8.Novato- Another sleeper team. On the rise since loss to Marin.
November 6th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Scoop,
I don’t think you know what you are talking about. First, I doubt all this talk about last year matters very much in seeding for this year. Second, Miramonte beat the teams that showed up to play in last years NCS playoffs; we didn’t have a choice who we played. We did however allow a total of 3 points and scored around 50 points in our two victories over Analy and San Marin (who upset their first round opponent). Third, the margin of victory for Cardinal Newman was pretty much the same in all four of their NCS games over Campo, O’Dowd, Miramonte and Encinal. Fourth, El Cerrito will not beat Berkeley. Finally, Berkeley is only rated 19.9 by Calpreps and Miramonte has a victory over Las Lomas which is rated 24.5 by Calpreps. Even with an El Cerrito victory over Berkeley, Miramonte (assuming Miramonte wins over Alhambra)will have a better record AND a victory over a higher rated opponent.
November 6th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
could hayward still make the playoffs with a win over cv?
November 6th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Any Loggerhead or Huskies fans (or anyone else, too) want to chime in on next weekend’s HDNL game of the year at Fortuna?
November 6th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
EC had a close game against crappy Hercules and tied a equally crappy Newark, i think even if they beat Berkely they are looking 6-8 seed with a win next week
November 6th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Jimmy, Ben,
Any word on Televised play off games?
Thanks!
November 6th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Btw i love MC, but they have a swiss cheese defense….they have been exploited multiple times on the ground and air…….a finesse offense in cold pouring rain during the NCS isnt going to score the points it does in sept and october……their defense isnt going to stop a well balanced elite offense……..you have seen when it gets tight late in the game against Encinal, MC usually buckles whethers its a personal foul or poor special teams coverage………….i dont think a soft finesse offense and a soft defense is the formula to win in late November in crappy weather, MC wont even make it to the finals if they face Encinal in the semis again
November 6th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
SuckaFree415 keep that low buddy. Let these MC fans & bloggers believe what they want. I don’t even think that MC is top 3 in the D3 tournament but I haven’t seen Campo yet. MC is a better version of Miramonte.
November 6th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Cal preps Also said the game between Miramonte and Campo would result in a victory for miramonte a couple of weeks ago too.. Cal preps says a lot, But its only a computer, Berkeley would probably beat you guys, Pretty bad, Ross anderson is good, Coach scrams playbook is very easy and not complicated at all. In the miramonte game last year it wasn’t competitive at all. Only game that was some what competitive against CN was the O dowd, When it was a shoot out till the 4 Th. quarter when CN Pulled away from O dowd. Also the Encinal game when it was 7-7 Until halfway trough the 4 Th. quarter with 6 starters missing Btw . You Guys would of lost to Marin catholic, There is NO way you get ranked ahead of ENcinal, El cerrito IF they lose. But if they win you not going to get put in front of a league champ, But thats IF they lose YOu might get put ahead of them … BTW THE DFAL IS HIGLY OVERRATED, THe LEAUGE BEST GAME WAS LAS LAMOS BEATING COLLEGE PARK OTHER THEN THAT CAN YOU NAME ONE NOTABLE WIN? Dont get me wrong this is the best league for D3 or D2 teams but then again there are a bunch of boise state Type teams in D3, from all parts of the Bay going head to head, Winning the DFAL Doesn’t have much weigh when you guys aren’t knocking out or even playing WCAL, EBAL or BVAL teams and winning.. The reason why you guys are ranked so high is because you guys play cupcakes in non leagues so your ranking goes highs when you guys face each other.
But CAMP IS THE REAL DEAL the QB is good.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Scoop I’m glad somebody else sees it my way. Everybody can get on Encinal for their schedule playing Moreau Catholic, St. Pats teams in their league they have to play but CAMPO SCHEDULED THOSE TEAMS! Miramonte chose to play a JFK & Fremont High teams that Schram damn well knew would not be organized early in the year. Coaches in that league are phony.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Scl Alum-It should be a great game on Friday. Fortuna is playing good football. It has been a very long time since Fortuna has beaten Eureka.
November 6th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Scl Alum- It has been a very long time since Fortuna has beaten Eureka. The Huskies are playing great football. I think Eureka has a stronger passing game than last year although they still run a lot. Eureka has some size on the line.
It should be a great game!
November 6th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
hayward has pretty much no chance to make the playoffs in my opinion even with a win. maybe if dougherty and ukiah dont qualify they may have a sliver of hope..but they lost big to arroyo. aroyo’s biggest win is you guys..not looking good all around for either in my opinon..but arroyo will assuredly get in long before hayward…but as it sits right now i think arroyo needs either ukiah or dougherty not to qualify…if one of them loses then arroyo should steal the last spot…right now i consider arroyo, redwood, hayward looking in, in that order. this all assuming northgate loses to concord..otherwise northgate is back in the playoffs, if they lose they don’t qualify.
November 6th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
What happened to all the Bandwagon Northgate Broncos fans from last year. Northgate fans are some jokesters not even faithful at all.
Scoop- I’ll be waiting for the day when Campolindo will have to square off with encinal and get absouletley hammered and crushed. You have no room to talk about whose schedules are weak when you guys play Ygnacio Valley, Saint Patrick Saint Vincent. Your strength of schedule is not that assuming.
November 6th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Bval Expert you were the guy who swore up and down De la salle ran a 4-4 defense cause you were at the “games”.. Any one who follows HS football Knows DE LA SALLE and for you not to know that they disguise That “4-4″ is a shame on you.. You “expert” Smh your a phony.. Stick to that league that hasn’t won nothing. Encinal has played In 3 of the last championship what has anyone in that league done?. Yeah ST Pats has ONE bad year, But their last years team could top out in that league or even compete . And this goes to show you how Ignorant and Uneducated you are when it comes to H.S Encinal never played YV.. Your a phony and a fake. Must I keep PROVING This?
November 6th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Your An idiot By the way Bval expert and completely contradicted your self that was campolindo who Played Saint pats, and played ygnacio valley for Non league, Also Moreau. SMH wow COMPLETELY CONTRADICTED YOUR SELF lol.. hahahaha WOW.. I rest my case about you buddy, Stop going on cal preps.
November 6th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
I TAKE THE LAST TWO POST BACK ABOUT BVAL EXPERT… I missed Read it , apologize to you and Blecher coach.. We are all grown men and i Am sorry to my campo fans and Encinal fans, And Pittsburgh fans..
Also To Bval Expert Especailly I re read the De la salle, Post and yes you were right….. Jokes on me,
November 7th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Hey Reggie, I feel what ur saying, and if you look at it every team has a few teams that most people feel arent a big challenge for them. But also the losing team in games like that need those games as well to help them get ready for league. You always wan to play against tougher competition in your non league, so JFK playing Miramonte yeah they didnt win, but they needed the game to help them learn to compete on a higher level if you feel what I am saying. Encinal is primed for another league championship, but I am sure Moreau wont come in their and just give them the game. The jets have to finish.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:21 am
I accept you apology but I swear to god i seen de la salle in a 4-4 one time. it wasnt their base defense but they did do that.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:52 am
bval Who do you think is the best team in the Bval? since the race to the top is so close
November 7th, 2011 at 7:21 am
reggie- i wouldnt go that far…….MC is a good team definitely top 3, only teams that can beat them is CN and Encinal……….MC did beat a really good vacaville team (that is the best win any D3 has straight up)with 5 wins over quality opponents (10 + calprep ratings) which is almost more than any other D3 team, so they arent slouches………just saying their defense isnt that great and their offense depends on throwing the ball which isnt good in crappy weather which will be coming during playoffs, but trust me they are a really good squad
November 7th, 2011 at 8:06 am
at post #20
Freedom looked good and heritage defense just plain sux. No pass rush, and db’s are horrible. Mayes was on point that night, looked real good. Top qb in the bval. As for mixon running circles on heritage, no. Mixon had some nice gains but he was not running wild on heritage. #21 from freedom looked better running the ball than mixon. #21 hits the hole faster. I believe Avila from heritage was the one who ran wild on freedom defense. Avila had about 17 touches for over 100 yards. It’s too bad heritage tried to pass more. Poti also was getting good gains on the ground. Freedom was the better team. Heritage had no answer to freedom’s passing game. Heritage should have stayed on the ground and control the clock. The run game was working, but decided to pass after gaining yards on the run. Too many 3 and outs. A few series all heritage wanted to do was pass. Congrats to freedom. Do or die for heritage and dv next week. Hope our bval teams represent in the playoffs. also, heritage did not run on kyree oliver’s side the whole time. there were times kyree was benched and was not even in because of missed assignmet and blocks. i do agree that oliver is not d1 player (now), but you cant teach size. that is all what the college coaches see. oliver does get beat a lot on the line by much smaller dline man, and miss blocks, same story all year long. i dont know what game bval expert was watching, but obviously a different game. good luck to oliver after the season. i’m sure he will go to a college for a full ride. he should get better with better training. we shall see.
November 7th, 2011 at 9:33 am
What does everyone here think about the BOD vs SL game ? This game along with theEC vs Berkerely and Eureka vs Fortuna could change slot in the seedings for seeds 5-9 for DIII
November 7th, 2011 at 10:10 am
I think its pretty unfortunate that those ganes aren’t streaming live or on different days so we can watch them all.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:45 am
#81 scoop,
It’s Las Lomas, I hope that the miss spelling was by accident. I haven’t had an opportunity to watch your team play but their record says a lot about their accomplishments on the field this season. I think that you are underestimating the DFAL teams Campo and Miramonte will be very competitive in the Div 3 playoffs. Both teams have an athletic, smart group of players that will rise to the challenge. As far as the playoff rankings go, I do think that league champions should be ranked over teams that did not win their league.
November 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
fb guru miraman you always talk about encinal well what about cardinal newman and marin catholic? last year you had no answer for cardinal newman they spread you out and sliced n diced you. fb guru i know your praying for a 4 or 5 seed you get 6 or 7 your headed to santa rosa we all can imagine what they’ll do to you guys up there after last years ass whopping at home!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Bleachercoach,
I agree these will be great games. My picks are:
O’Dowd will not let SL get in the way of their NCS run.
O’Dowd 24 – SL 14
If Berkeley is a legit D1 team, they will beat El Cerrito without much trouble.
Berkeley 31 – El Cerrito 17
Fortuna and Eureka is to close to call! Eureka has wins over Shasta and Del Norte and Fortuna has wins over Healdsburg and Del Norte. But I’ll say it’s Fortuna’s year.
Fortuna 17 – Eureka 14
What about Herules vs Pinole Valley. I know everyone takes Hercules lightly, but if they beat Pinole Valley they get a (small) legit victory to go on their 8-2 record. I think Hercules has been struggling to beat bad teams lately and Pinole Valley will show some pride.
Pinole Valley 31 – Hercules 21
November 7th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Perkins,
I didn’t see your post about coaches rankings until today. UR right, they use to be a big part, not sure if they are any more with the closed door sessions. One thing UR wrong about is thinking “every coach has Encinal as #4″. No coach in the top 9 is going to seat Encinal in front of their own team at #4. No way Nickerson beats SL and then decides to put EHS at 4 and himself at 5, especially with a better margin of victory against Hayward. Kahn, same thing based on Alameda. Brackett and Schram won’t even seat them in the top 7 because they won’t want to have to travel to EHS as non-league champs. Hercules might seed themselves high than EHS based on Alameda. Tennyson definitely has at least one win (SL) better than any wins EHS has this year.
Better hope the committee doesn’t use the only totally bias metric out there or Calpreps might be the only one with EHS in the top eight.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Last year Newman did just fine with the number two seed. If that’s where they end up again, I think history may repeat itself. It will be very exciting to watch how these games all turn out, though. It’s been a year since I got to see Miramonte, Encinal, and Bishop O’Dowd. As a North Bay guy, I’m pumped to see how we will stack up against the best that the East Bay has to offer.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
fb guru do you think if there was a still a open meeting coaches would do that ? no encinal looks as tough as they have the last 3 years should have beat serra . any coach ranking encinal that low has no intgrity cause no coach would go on the board and write a 9 seed please. bod got handled by st.ignatius pretty sure serra would do the same. kahn please check the record on that! brackett & schram dont want no part of encinal. if they ranked encinal below them it’s only cause its done behind closed doors now both know who the better team is. espnrise has them ranked ahead of those teams i guess you know more fbguru!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
scoop i will not argue with the fact that expert is a idiot..i have gotten into it with him before..but as far as the bval not winning anything..come on…the whole bval is d 1..who has beaten dls the last 20 years..pitt has been to 2 of the last 3 championship d1 games..so thats what teams in our league has done..like i said i have no problem you ripping on expert he does talk alot of non sense..but dont kidd yourself pitt has done something in this league..and i think pitt encinal would be a good game..but please dont stop ripping on that guy
November 7th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
NFL,
I don’t talk smack about CN or MC because I feel they are the two elite teams in D3. MC is a team I just don’t know much about. CN is a team I saw slice up a very talented Miramonte team last year…and they have their playmakers back! From what I have seen, they play at a whole different level than every other NCS D3 team. Given the Vacaville win, maybe MC can keep up with them. Campo has such a good QB, maybe. Encinal? Fougedaboudit!
Encinal and Miramonte are next. Encinal made the finals last year and has been strong for years. But remember, Miramonte has been a NCS semi-finalist for the last three seasons. That puts us in a pretty elite crowd.
Campo, O’Dowd, Novato and El Cerrito all deserve mention and all three could be good for years to come.
For Miramonte, we have to focus on beating Alhambra, which I think will be harder than the ratings would indicate. Then I think our sucess depends on the brackets with some scenarios favoring us better than others. I would like to see another semifinal appearance, but even that will take beating at least one very good team (Campo, O’Dowd, Encinal…).
It will be an epic tournament!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
DIII PLAYOFF RELEASE…..I am only talking about half of the brackets: 1,4,5,8,9,12,13,16………When its all said and done just for this half of the bracket.
final 4 …Encinal vs Miramonte and Marin Catholic vs Bishop O dowd.. All the Miramonte fans will finally get to see who has the better team, ENCINAL
or Miramonte, not sure who will win between O’Dowd and Marin.The other half of the brackets 2,3,6,7,10,11,14,15 will be CN,CAMPO,EUREKA and whoever.Of course all this is based on my assumptions of what will take place this week AND WHAT I THINK
NCS will actually do in regards to Rankings. What does all this mean ? Nothing really
just my thoughts on an exciting DIII playoff.
November 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
miraman the one thing you got right is to make it this year you’ll have to beat a good team not like last year with your free ride playing analy & san marin. 1-mc 2-cn 3-campo 4-jets 5-bod 6-miramonte 7-el cerrito 8-novato flip el cerrito miramonte if gauchos beat berkeley if that happens your done you aint winning in santa rosa!
November 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
fb guru you think marin campo cardinal newman will rank encinal anywhere between 6,7,8,9, your crazy they dont want to play encinal in the second round child please! you dont think seeing those coaches rankings will speak to the ncs committee more than brackett & scham ,kahn who are just trying to set themselves up more than keeping real.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
I hope Encinal gets a 8 or 9 seed. That should do enough to fire that team up to make an impact. I hope they get EC or Miramonte the 2nd round.
FB Guru points are not part of the criteria. How many times do you have to be told that. If they were then Miramonte would be out of the top 8. They were 15 in the Bay Area until they got crushed by Campo now they aren’t ranked.
November 7th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
I like Encinal-O’Dowd. Nickerson will have to coach his a** off for that.
Does Mira want a Campo rematch? They should want to avoid MC, CN, and Encinal as long as possible. “Better the devil you know than the devil you dont” is how I see it.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
I would think Miramonte would luv a 6th seed, gives them a path to state, beat an undefeated Campo and avenge their only loss, beat an undefeated (once tied) CN, win the championship against undefeated MC. Beat three consecutive undefeated teams and you should have the inside track to state.
November 7th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
what’s changed from last season to make you think they can beat cardinal newman now? wasnt the clock running in the 4th against campolindo?
November 7th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Reggie,
I wouldn’t judge Miramonte by one bad game. The Campo-Mira rivalry is a huge one. Campo showed up and played their best game of the year. This is one of the great things about football is the match ups and the preparation that goes into each week’s games. The CN and MC teams are probably loaded with lots of talent but they will have to play their best games in order to make it to the championship game. Las Lomas was able to play a very close game with Marin Catholic last season and LL was an average team, point being that any of the top Div. 3 teams can play a great game and beat a higher rated team.
November 7th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Miramonte got beat bad by Campo and I’m not going to try to defend that. Campo painted a masterpiece and I just had to sit back and admire it. I think the big indicator to me was how Miramonte would come back after such a defeat.
What no one is mentioning is that Miramonte destroyed Dublin worse than anyone else (OK, except Campo). 34-0 right after halftime. What better statement could they make against a respectable D2 team! Frankly, that was the best game Miramonte has played…including the Las Lomas game. Now you guys will tell me that Dublin isn’t any good…blah, blah blah. Same old stuff.
Sometimes a loss is what you need to get you going. We’ll see if that’s the case here.
By the way, Campo is for real and has the potential to suprise some of the elite teams like maybe CN and MC – not saying they will beat them, but I like the match-ups. I acutally think Encinal, O’Dowd and Novato are the teams that they match-up poorly with.
The kids at Miramonte would love to play Campo again, but I don’t want the two DFAL teams playing each other in an early round. I’d prefer to see how each does against other elite teams.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
yowl I’m loving this D3 chatter lots of good teams in this bracket and everybody is making a lot of sense but does anybody see any upset specials of any of the top teams maybe losing in the first or second round?who are some teams under the radar that might surprise in the playoffs?……….also im not so much looking at a teams wins and loses as much as SOS in so far making a deep run in playoffs Berkeley for example has 3 loses but played a brutal schedule early and you see that paying off now late in the season,you wonder about the teams who played soft schedules now that its playoff time.
November 7th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Also my sleepers are Ec and Bod though ec is very young this year lot of sophmores and juniors but look the hell out for these 2 teams
November 7th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
I gotta say that miramonte isnt near as good as you think. We won’t beat Marin Catholic Cardinal Newman Encinal and I frankly would only want to go back to campo to seriously hurt some of their players. I cant see a championship game other than Marin Catholic vs Cardinal Newman. Although I would like to point out the fact that these two schools are clearly recruting on some level as they are all-boys catholic schools….
November 7th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Coming out with a few losses from preseason, but turning that into experience for playoffs can play dividends for teams. Cardinal Newman last year swept with two bad losses to powerhouses and a heartbreaker to Rancho Cotate. If Berkeley has had a similar go around, it could really do a lot for them. It’s not how you begin a season, it’s how you finish it.