California High School Football – Encinal prevails Miramonte
(December 4, 2009: Alameda, CA 94501) The crowd at Friday’s non-league contest between the Encinal Jets (Alameda, CA) and the visiting Miramonte Matadors (Orinda, CA), observed Encinal’s football squad defeat Miramonte by a count of 48-32.
I believe its common knowledge that the Jets (as does every team at this point in the season) have injuries.Kaneuanui’s injury was from friendly fire and I was told its a pinched nerve that will be corrected thanks to the week off from school.If Campo’s success over the Mats was based on “defensive speed” that will be good for the Jets.
This weeks game will be won by the team that plays the best defense PERIOD….
With different personnel in the roster for the Jets things are not as good as they have been but Jets still play better “D” then the Mats.TEAM SPEED has always been their forte and they still have it. Anderson will not get the freedom to just run all over the place like he has with other teams, he is a big target and HE WILL TAKE BIG HITS. The Matador defense is on the small side and they will have a hard time
slowing down Jet O.Jets play better D and are a threat to score on ALL special teams.The “X factor” goes to the Jets, the x factor is that unexplainable part of the game that just happens “because”. Because their at home, because its their 4th quarter final apperance,because it will be slippery and mudding and not astro turf,
because in 4 years the Jets have only lost twice (2) times AT HOME, because of a player named Trodder and one name Banks and most of all because Schram is coaching against his old staff and school and everyone knows the if your any kind of teacher your students turn out to be better. Right ? ITS GONNA BE A GREAT GAME.
What did Schram actually teach this current Jets Coaching staff? I know he coached some of them but I don’t see any similarities between the two teams. Miramonte Spread O, man to man on D. Encinal multiple offensive sets a lot of different running sets (none I see Miramonte run) so they must not have been there when Schram was there. Looking at CalPreps the last 10 years Schram certainly didn’t teach them how to win their rivalry game against Alameda 1-4 to 5-1. Couldn’t beat Piedmont 0-2-2 compared to 4-0. Definitely didn’t teach tme how to win in the play-offs 0-2 during the Schram time in 2000′s. Only made the play-offs twice in 5 years.
Thank you Lancers for a fun and exciting season. I enjoyed coming to work on Mondays and having bragging rights over my co-workers. Here’s to all of you who made the season so good! LAAAAAAAN-CERRRRS!!!!!
You are right to be proud. Tennyson had a great season and one the seniors can remember forever. The win over San Leandro was huge!
I think the game versus Miramonte would have been closer but for a couple of things. One is on the first scoring run by our fullback, he ran helmut-to-helmut into your linebacker/QB (it’s on the highlight film). It was a monster hit and I don’t think your QB was the same after that. Second, I think Miramonte was concerned about being upset. It seemed to keep them really focused.
Hope to see Tennyson back in the playoffs next year!
You are correct, Encinal is no Campo. They are better!
We’ll see if Campo make it to the championship game. If they need to know how to get there just ask the Jets. We have a gold frequent flyer card.
Unbelievable that you would hop on the Campo bandwagon as a rival and after getting blown out by Campo. You may want to focus on this week’s game. That’s what make champions, keeping your eye on the immediate not the future.
BleacherCoach, I said that Our QB was down but walked off under his own power and should be fine. We had one kid our but he might be back for the game. MiraMan, I think you are going to be in for a big disapointment. Jet Pride!
I guess Encinal has been chopped liver the last 4 years compared to the Miramonte and Compolindo? How many NCS Title games have they been in? If Bayareaboy2 is correct and you guys play man to man on Friday, I would look for a ton of Banks/Ve’e hook ups! And a ‘lil bit of Trodder out the backfield, down the seam! I haven’t seen Miramonte in 2 years, but I can’t see them having the speed to stay with Banks and Trodder.
Not sure if he taught the current Jets staff anything, but I know Schram is a real nice guy. I’m just hoping he drives back through the tunnel a little disappointed.
Old Former Meddling Coach it is all good we chatted about is today on the afternoon Chat.
Comment From Bleacher Coach
Have either of you guys talked with coach T about injuries.
I just got off the phone with about about 15 minutes ago. Sounds like Ve’e should be a go. He tweaked his knee a little but his mom said he seems OK. Paschal is out after dislocating his elbow in the season finale. That’s a blow.
Surely you remember #7 seed Campolindo defeating #2 seed Encinal, 28-8, in the 2007 playoffs in the swamp. To be honest I’m sure Campo would rather be playing Encinal than O’Dowd. Coach Tenorio was completely outcoached by Coach Macy that day. In fact, Campo will enjoy this same advantage over Coach Nickerson this Saturday.
BleacherCoach, It’s all good. Redandblue2,Really??? How long ago was that? Different team, Wiser Coach and It could be said that the 2008 team could’ve beat you. Lets just wait until we face each other again on the field redandblue2. Jet Pride!
Of course that game was a few years ago, that wasn’t my point. The point was, despite Encinal’s athletic advantage, they were completely outcoached that day. O’Dowd will enjoy the same athletic advantage this weekend (7 D1 players on BOD, we are told). Will BOD be able to rise above their bad boy image, minimize their propensity for personal fouls, leverage their athletic advantage and overcome the game plan Coach Macy has in store for them. If so, O’Dowd just might win this game. Don’t bet against the Cougars.
I agree with you that it is very risky to putt QBs in harms way by plugging them in on defense, but that’s common in NCS. Adam Wood of Las Lomas plays LB, Ve’e of Encinal plays LB. Its part of football in NCS that I don’t agree with; a fixation on two-way players in general. I understand the desire to keep the best athletes on the field, but it hinders the development of more players and piles the risk on the loss of a select few players.
We remember. BTW, Encinal was ranked 3. I don’t think Coach T was out coached. However, I am sure he took something from that game, since the Jets did not loss again in the playoff since 2007 (in the championship game each year since).
So what happen the year after your upset, 2008 NCS Champions – Encinal Jets, Campo did not even make the playoff.
Campo: 2009 – 1 and done, 2010 – 1 and done.
Jets – Well known – no need to point out the obvious
Outcoached? Luck win games too! Let’s see what happen with BOD under your supreme coaching.
I’ll take Coach T and his 37-5 and NCS Championship anytime and twice on Fridays.
Of course Encinal is 37-5 since their loss to Campo. Funny how 2008 just happens to be the beginning of Encinal’s switch to the pathetic BSAL. But of course they were undefeated during their 4 year run, congratulations; it must feel so rewarding. So much so, you have to do some digging to unearth their Calpreps rating. Good luck against Miramonte. Should the Mats defeat the Jets, bursting Encinal’s bubble, they can say they were defeated by a team that also got smoked by Campo.
Redandblue2, Get Past BOD and then worry about the Jets. I’ll be surprised to hear from you if you guys lose. ArmstrongJets Makes a great point. What happened to Campo the last few years? Enjoy the ride while you can young man. And as always…. Jet Pride!
Actually Coach, I think BOD should be favored against Campo; they really are a talented team and they seem to be peaking at the right time. That is why I wish Campo was playing Encinal instead.
Campo has been a great story this year, though. After finishing in last place and losing 6 of their final 7 games in 2010 and not returning even one offensive or defensive lineman, its been a dream season. Everyone (incuding Ben & Jimmy picked Campo for last place this year; no one saw this coming.
Only a handful of Campo players might start on Encinal (or BOD, CN & MC for that matter), which makes their run all the more remarkable. Win or lose on Saturday it has been an incredible season. Campo last won a section title 25 years ago and their 11 wins is likely the most they have ever won in a single season. Not bad for a team that didn’t even have one kid play tackle football until high school.
So good luck to Encinal this weekend. The difference between the 2 teams can be summed up best by saying Encinal’s season will likely be considered a failure if they can’t get by Miramonte, whereas Campo’s season, win or lose, by any measure, has been a success. Of course, there are a lot of people out there who think Campo has the intangibles to pull off a 12th consecutive victory; nobody more so than the kids themselves…Campo pride
Miramonte has there hands full with Encinal but I think they will get passed the undisciplined Jets. Encinal will have to play mistake free football and stop one of the Bay Areas best QBs in R. Anderson. Encinal’s weakness is there DBs and if Miramonte is smart enough to exploit that then they will win no problem but if Encinal can run the ball and play “keep away” then the Mats could be in trouble. Jets stop talking all this crap about yourself and prove it on the field. I still like the Mats in this one.
Mats win 42-28
Campo could beat BOD if they stick to the game plan and stop the dragons from running the ball. Thats what they want to do. Force them to throw the ball because all they do is throw bombs and bunch route combos. Stop that and Campo you’ll win. BOD plays too emotional at times and that can really hurt them against quality opponents like Campo.
Campo wins 21-17
Marin catholic will crush the Loggers this weekend. If Eureka had trouble with ECt then they will run into a brick wall trying to stop MCs offense and trying to run on that stingy defense of there’s.
MC wins 48-17
Encinal plays up or down to their competition. I don’t see Miramonte putting up 42 points on them. Jets win 34-21. Home game probably last game for the Jet’s seniors this year. Just don’t enough weapons around Anderson for them to out score the Jets.
Two way players is sometimes necessary when your roster is small. Every team does not have the luxury of a 45-60+ man squad. Best players should play for the team to have the best chance of winning. QB is just another position and just 1 of the 11 players on the field. Most OL players also play DL, most WR play DB/Safety and most RB play Special teams. Two way is just the beginning for some team. Bo Banks (Encinal) never seem to leaves the field. I think he plays QB, WR, DB, Kickoff Return, Punt Return and Punters. Just a perspective from teams with small rosters. BTW, Banks is this year’s league MVP for both Offense and Defense and selected to the CA State All Star team last year. Pulling him out does not make much sense.
ya QB is just another postition.. this is only the position (especially when running a spread offense) where the guy needs to handle the snap, make good decisions, make good throws, and handle the ball efficiently.
Armstrong, just to be fair to Campo in the 2010 playoffs, the Jets’ championship game and Campo’s 1 and done in the playoffs were both losses to the same team by the same score. Those were entirely different games, and we both know who was the more competitive team, but perhaps had Encinal been seeded on Newman’s side of the bracket last year, they wouldn’t have been able to upset Marin Catholic and do some other very impressive things on their way to a third consecutive championship game. If Campo was on the other side, they might have been at least a game better than one and done. Anyways, I think Miramonte has a good shot, but Encinal is scrappy and does well with a challenge. I would take Campo over Encinal, but Miramonte? I’ll say Jets edge it out, but the Mats put up a hell of a fight on the way there.
You Jet fans better stop taking Miramonte lightly before they put a foot in your behind. So cocky and think you’re superior than everyone when you make it to the dance and get blown out. I don’t want to hear it. It will be raining friday so I can see it being just like when you lost to Marin Catholic in 2009 because we all know you guys can’t play in the rain against good teams. Prove me wrong Jets.
Campo fans, Yea you guys are undefeated but you’re not very great yourselves. Cut the crap and prove your worth before you come on here and say how great you are. Im not very impressed with your team and the competition on the way to your record. You guys have faced teams that are all finesse no true run game like Encinal so if you guys do end up playing each other you better be ready to stop a good running game.
I think Coach Tenorio has been very successful playing his QB on Defense the last four years and two of them have gotten scholarships to Boise State and Washington State, both on the defensive side. If that makes him a “boneheaded” coach in your opinion, so be it. This year is no different, both Ve’e and Banks have played QB and continue to start on Defense.
Okay to you campo Fans that want to talk Ish about the jets schedule, Why would you set up games against MOREUA Catholic, Ygnaico, St PAts and el cerrito..? THATS FOR Your NON league games that YOU CHOOSE!… not forced to play in league TEAMS YOU CHOOSE……. The Dfal Is the MOST OVERRATED LEAGUE in the Bay area that leagues best win is COLLEGE PARK….. miramonte best win is analy who they barley beat.. its time to Expose this League and a phony and BISHOP O DOWD WIll, Also encinal will hit ross anderson harder then campo… Ross Anderson 0-2 In the swamp have a nice career at brown, because this will for sure be his last H.S game
*patrick The score for the Encinal Cn hame 35-7 doesn’t mean it was the same As the campo Cn… Encinal was 7-7 with 6 starters missing mid way trough the 4th when 2 more starters were out =8… Then it was a a$$ whopping that Cn Handed… You cant compare the two…. Sorry buddy.
*but Brett stephens was only a 10th grader, He probably going to be the Finest Qb in next years class, So things might be a little diffrent, Granted though Campo has abosuletley no athlethes , They might be Well coached, Againest a Hardy nickerson team thats hungry
… but on the other hand, Jets best Non-League win this year was Alameda who THEY barely beat. Their best League win is nobody, their league SUCKS and they are the only BSAL team still playing even though 3 other BSAL teams got to play in the weakass DIV 4 playoffs.
Rednblue forget there bsal record there 10-2 the last 3 yrs in ncs with victories over novato marin & miramonte wheres the dfal been lately? If you get by bod and you should dont wanna hear it will already be a successful season if you dont win you cant be serious? But beating cnewman aint gonna happen! Bleachercoach is novato gonna do anything this week? Brackett been ducking cnewman for yrs cant hide now! Mandown you ever been to the dance please dont say silver bowl cuz we know you oal coaches have a tough time in the ncs playoffs!
Funny thing about scheduling. Campolindo didn’t have a strong preseason schedule this year, befitting a team that went 5-6 in 2010 and came in last place in league. If they somehow manage to beat the holy trinity of D3, Bishop O’Dowd, Cardinal Newman & Marin Catholic, they will more than likely make it to the state bowl game. I guess strength of scheduling wouldn’t really matter now would it.
Regarding the DFAL in general, the top 4 teams are still in the playoffs; only the EBAL can make the same claim, no other league can. Before anyone calls this a weak league, let’s see this weekend play itself out.
Voice i expect to see some well played football this season weekend but these dfal guys swear there league is all that i think it a solid league well coached but no juggernaut teams whats the dfal done since 08 when ncs combined redwood/east bay no finals appearance! I feel miramonte should step up there non league maybe take a crack at serra bod pinole valley. Fb guru didnt shram run splitbacks at encinal? He must be running wades system. Fb guru will see friday cant wait!
Reguarding Tennyson, that team is NEVER in the weight room and hardly ever practiced in pads. They consistantly wore down throughout this season, and was over-powered on both sides of the Line by most teams due to their coach’s lack of commitment to be a physical/tough team.
All you have to do is look at the Mt. Eden game and see a less talented team, that was much more physical than Tennyson, keep the game way too close. For that matter, look at the O’Dowd and Castro Valley games where Tennyson was a physical mismatch against these teams that pride themselves with being in the weight room.
Sad to see players and coaches lobby to the head coach to get into the weight room, only to be told “we have no time”???? WOW!!!
Anyhow, truth be told, at least the head coach is happy about making NCS for the second straight year only to get out coached and physically manhandled once again.
Oh well, at least they can print more t shirts and brag about winning the most games in school history.
I really look forward to the realignment where Encinal will get some real in-league competition. I hope it works out that Encinal plays O’Down, San Leandro, Castro Valley and Berkeley all in a row. Then you will know what its like to play in DFAL. A schedule like that grinds you down right before the NCS tourney. Encinal’s current JV league is like six scrimmages in a row leading into the NCS tourney – not the same thing! I predict Encinal will be a perennial #2 or #3 team in the new league.
If you read this, I wanted to mention that Miramonte only had two people voted to the all DFAL first team (Anderson and WR Pietrikowski). As a 10-1 team I find that pretty insulting – not a single defensive player!
When we beat Encinal convincingly and sack their QB half a dozen times, I hope you will spend some time focusing on other aspects of Miramonte’s team in addition to the QB play.
Miraman how would the mats do in that league? How about playing some those teams you mentioned in non league miraman? Please dont say you guys got liberty & analy. I heard parents complained about playing inner city teams miraman thats weak!
If that’s the case(the DFAL is soooooo tough), then you gave yourself a nice easy diving board of a preseason by “challenging” yourself with the tough lineup of Analy, Kennedy, Fremont and Liberty. Wouldn’t want to over extend yourself and schedule a decent team for the games that you actually have a choice with, right? Why don’t you play Kennedy or Fremont on the road? Haha, that will never happen!
This is an old conversation. Encinal has one tough out of league game (which they lose) ane two very weak out of league games followed by 7 very weak league games. Miramonte has two respectable non league games (Analy and Liberty) and two weak non league games followed by a tough 6-game league schedule. Miramonte easily wins that comparison.
I wouldn’t want you to get facts in the way of your logic or anything, but you may want to educate yourself. Maxpreps prints out their strenght of schedule rating. If you check it, you would find that DFAL teams rank #1, #3 and #8 (Miramonte is #8), etc. in strength of schedule our of 25 teams. If you want to find Encinal you will need to go way down to the bottom of the page to #23 out of 25 teams. And that includes the one really tough Serra game and the Tam game. Calpreps rate each league against all leagues in the state of california and out of all NCS leagues, DFAL is the thrid best in NCS behind EBAL and BVAL (both D1 leagues). BSAL is pretty close to the bottom.
Encinal fans focus on out of league games as they should because BSAL has been so weak. DFAL teams don’t have that problem. Once we have realignment and Encinal has a tougher league schedule, and presumably keeps their “tough” non league schedule, then I will respect the critisism. Unil then, the critisism is just lame.
We can focus on anything you want, and view it through whatever lenses you want. I can see you are one of those guys that is never wrong. But the fact remains, Encinal has been in the Championship game of the most competitive division in the NCS for the last 3 years. Maybe they did get blown in the last 2, but I’m sure you would have loved your Mats to have got there. So I guess you can choose to judge a tough non league schedule, or a “tough” league schedule, but you cannot discount what the Jets have done when it counts, the last 3 years. They have taken down everyone put in front of them except MC and CN on different years. Neither Miramonte or Campolindo has been in that conversation the past 3 years??? So yes, this is a different year, but until now, that’s what we have to go by.
BTW, did you guys have home and home agreements with Kennedy and Fremont? I didn’t think so. No where to park, I guess, right?
I definitely expect a great game on Friday, and yes, I hope that the Jets win. And I know you expect your Mats to win. Unfortunately we have no part in determining the outcome. These blogs are our only form of competition, and its fun! But Friday we’ll see what happens?
MiraMan, I’m glad we have entertained you. I got much love and respect for Coach Schram (Coached against him 91,93,95)and may the best team win but as i said all along, The student will surpass the master and i believe the Jets will win. Nuff’Said, Jet Pride!
you guys worry way too much about schedules, all that matters is who will win friday. I dont doubt the jets have some gifted atheletes but dont write off the mats recievers, they arent too shabby themselves. will be shootout and it is tough to say who will win
hahahaha how can you call the DFAL A POWER leaugue!!! they play cup cakes and feel good abut them selfs!! and play each other the new super HAAL will dominate those foes..! THE DFAL WILL GET EXPOSED ON FRIDAY MIRA MAN, This pisses me off lol no lie. Your miramonte team only has ONE GOOD PLAYEr, Ross, Campo is well coached AGAIN ON GOOD PLAYer BRET… thats a two player leaugue… You need more ballers then that to win Ncs, Have a nice second round exit, Whens the last time THAT SUPER LEAGUE OF YOURS WON A CHAMPIONSHIP OR HAs EVEN GONE THERE??? I rest my case… MARIN COUNTY IS A GREAT SUPER LEAGUE IN DIVSION 3… Novato back in the mid decade?! you couldnt see them? when they kicked miramonte and las lamos a$$.. you guys can’t do ish.. this isnt NCS 2a no more buddy… only team thats one in the the last 7 years for the East bay has been encinal
I fact checked post #47 because it seemed ridiculous. He claimed DFAL is the only league with 4 teams still playing (excepting EBAL). How about the BFL? Valley Christian upset St mary’s, Berean is playing Fortuna, Salesian is #1 seed and defending champs, and CSD is battling in D5. Beware making comments unsupported by facts my fellow football fans!
Man Down, That logic isnt very strong, referring to Miramonte being smart and exploiting encinals weakness. Cal is a smart team and they lost to Freedom. Freedoms not that discipline of a discipline team. It doesn’t matter if its different teams, its the same concept. But in some ways that is not true. It depends, Miramonte may be smart but can they actually execute their smartness and actually make plays in transition? I see teams that arent discipline and absolutely man handle “smart teams” because the “smart teams” cant execute their plays and arent as athletic.
Then again, I did the count. DFAL as it stands now has 15 combined NCS titles. BSAL has 4 including Encinal. St. Patrick/St.Vincent has one from 2006 in addition to Encinal’s 2008 title. Other than that, you have to go back to the 70′s to find another Encinal champion and a Piedmont champion. And it hasn’t been quite 7 years. Las Lomas won the 3A in 2005: six years ago. Also, you mention Marin County Athletic League. Well, actually, while Novato and Marin Catholic are two very good teams almost year in and year out, the rest of the league is pretty sub-par. I’d give DFAL advantage over MCAL any day. The combo of Las Lomas, Miramonte, and Campolindo is much superior to that of Novato and Marin Catholic. I’m a Newman guy as most people know, so I don’t have much of a vested interest. But the DFAL is definitely the best D2-D3 league in the NCS. Next year, with the addition of Casa Grande and Windsor, the NBL will be the deepest league. So however you come down on the Encinal-Miramonte game, give respect where it is due. While not a exactly a “super-league”, the champion and runners-up of the DFAL deserve a lot of respect. They play in playoff quality games for at least four weeks in league. That’s impressive. Encinal winning the BSAL, Marin winning MCAL, or Newman winning NBL? Still accomplishments, but isn’t to the same standard.
Patrick since your are a CN homer I will address this to you.
Novato’s run defense is the best of the remaining playoff teams. CN is a running team first with Tomisin and the QB. From all acounts Rodriguez does not run nearly as well as Sullivian did.
So I went back and watched the CN vs VC game on comcast and a good part of the CN option offence is the ablity of the QB to not only make the right choice to hand off or keep the ball but to get good yardage.
In my opinion Novato is going to shut down the run game and force Rodriguez to put the ball in the air. Now I am not saying he cant do this but can he do it A. When CN is not moving the ball on the ground B. under pressure both from the defense and mentally. and C. After he has been rocked a couple of time.
My common sense tell me CN wins but my gut is telling me Novato pulls the defensive upset and win 21-14
First of all, I wanted to wish you luck in your anger management classes. Just in the nick of time, I’d say.
Second, DFAL is no “power league” in my opinion. It’s just a very solid league with 7 teams that all have good programs. In any given year, 2 or 3 of those programs will do well. As a result, any team playing in DFAL will have between 1-3 tough in-league games and the other games are pretty tough as well. This year it was stronger than usual with four good teams (OK, three good teams plus Dublin – make it 3 1/2 good teams). I don’t think DFAL teams as a whole play particularly tough pre-league schedules, but it balances out due to a tougher league schedule. If you are a “homer” for Cardinal Newman, Marin Catholic, Bishop O’Dowd or Novato, you have a right to comment on tough out of league schedules because these are the four D3 teams that played tough out of league schedules AND played in leagues that provided some level of competition AND came out with a solid records. If your anyone else complaining about tough pre-league games or putting down some other league, you just sound like a blow-hard.
Nice catch Oh Boy. I did not research D-IV or D-V leagues since their leagues, including the vaunted BFL, are nowhere near the strength of any of the other east bay leagues; so my point is still valid. Still, you are right and we must give the BFL their due.
By the way, if this forum was subject to fact checking nearly all the posts would be redacted!
miraman your top 3 teams are good how good will definitley find out this weekend. miraman i hope you guys dont get swept wouldnt look good for your league. patrick those dfal titles are 2a eastbay nothing since they combined eastbay & redwood if they didnt combined encinal would be the champs 3 years running!
lol schram stepped down there was no shanangans like alameda high where steve rocklin staff threw him under the bus & had a worse season than the year before! lol why would your new coach wanna play in the b league? if he gets lucky and wins it all they are is the 7th best team cause he wanted no part of the other 6 teams in the a league!
I think the DFAL has quite a bit more than 15 NCS titles since Foothill was in the DFAL when they were in their heyday and Alhambra, but your point has been made. Miramonte won an NCS title in 2006, but they played an additional bowl game between EBAY and RE were Novato killed them. So Novato got two NCS first place banners and Miramonte got an NCS first place and an NCS second banner in the same year. NCS did the same thing in 1983-1985, checkout the 1983 bracket. Alot of the same players, Mira, Enc, MC, CN, Eureka, and DLS (the only time DLS was one and done and at the hands of Mira – now we know why Silvergreen is rooting for the Jets, still smarting from that one).
The EBAL has only 3 teams remaining not 4, DLS, MV & SRV. BVAL Expert, I don’t know where you came up with Cal being a “smart team”. That sounds like some Chalk Talk doublespeak. Cal is a very physical team that works hard and has some smart players and coaches, but they also have some outstanding athletes. They played Freedom tough and almost pulled off the win, not just through smarts but through tough physical play. If anything, they lost due to some not so smart actions.
FB Guru, Are you sure Foothill was in the DFAL in their heyday? I don’t recall that. I know Alhambra has been a long time DFAL-FAL member but I think Foothill’s titles came as a member of the EBAL.
It depends what you are talking about when referencing NCS titles. Starting in 2006, the East Bay region winner was not considered the NCS champ, as they no longer split up the East Bay-Redwood areas and there has been just 1 champion.
I don’t need to call Gil. Novato won the overall NCS championship both years per the website, as well as being the Redwood regional winner. The Mats & LL made it to the championship game and were EB regional winners.
The NCS Div III must be pretty weak as well since the Jets are 10-2 in the last 3 years. Dela crushes the EBAL every year so following your logic the EBAL is weak as well. Just like Encinal, Dela shows their prowess in the playoff.
Division III North
1. (2) Marin Catholic (Kentfield) 11-0
2. (1) Cardinal Newman (Santa Rosa) 10-0-1
3. (3) Escalon 12-0
4. (5) Palma (Salinas) 9-1-1
5. (6) Encinal (Alameda) 10-1
6. (7) Salesian (Richmond) 10-0
7. (8) Carmel 11-0
8. (9) Campolindo (Moraga) 11-0
9. (NR) Valley Christian (San Jose) 6-5
10. (10) Hilmar 10-2
Drops: Previous No. 4 Colfax.
Others to watch: Bishop O’Dowd (Oakland) 9-2, Christopher (Gilroy) 10-1*, Highlands (North Highlands) 10-2, Liberty Ranch (Galt) 9-3, Miramonte (Orinda) 10-1, Orland 10-1, St. Helena 11-0, St. Ignatius (San Francisco) 4-6-1, Sutter 10-1; Valley Christian (San Jose) 5-5.
Teams that lost (no longer eligible for CIF bowl): Aptos 9-2, Colfax 11-1.
Outlook: Yes, we did change it at the top because Marin Catholic’s unbeaten record has been strengthened with Vacaville beating St. Mary’s of Stockton. Vacaville’s only loss is to the Wildcats and that win over St. Mary’s also helps Marin Catholic if it comes down to the Wildcats and Escalon for the CIF Division III state bowl berth. Colfax getting beat by Liberty Ranch of Galt also prevents Escalon from getting the chance to play and beat a 13-0 team in its section final. Still, the Cougars can’t feel sorry for themselves because they could get beat this week at home by Central Catholic of Modesto. Escalon rolled when the two played a year ago and while coach Mark Louriero’s team seems to be even better it also could be that Central Catholic is a lot better. Cardinal Newman falling to second also is not really that significant because the Cards are in the same North Coast Section D3 playoff bracket as Marin Catholic. If they win that title, their case to go to a bowl game is just as strong whether they are No. 1 or No. 2 this week. We just had to pick the next team from Northern California to go into the overall state top 25 and Marin Catholic had the better case between the two.
I don’t think Encinal and DLS are quite on the same level. How many NCS championships in a row have the Jets won? a 10-2 record in NCS over 3 years would be a catastrophe for DLS. DLS is at least in the strongest league around. I’m not saying Encinal hasn’t had some very good teams lately, but best not to try to compare them to DLS. I don’t see DLS people saying we are “just like Encinal”.
Livermore, Granada and Foothill left the EBAL for four years, Foothill won 2 of their 4 NCS titles while in that league. They could have possibly won one more but Sweeney petitioned up to the D1 playoffs the last year and they lost to San Leandro in the D1 semi’s when they had Dennis Dixon at QB and were very good.
The old league was called the TCAL(tri county athletic league) not the DFAL. The league had Dublin, Miramonte, Alhambra, Campo, Las Lomas, Foothill, Livermore and Granada.
I think you miss the point. I think lol’s point was that the BSAL is weak that why Encinal has it success. So take the league record out and compare their NCS record, which was my point. I would think any other team in the EBAL would love that record, not to pick on the EBAL but for comparison it was appropriate.
As for Dela, different division, different level, good program and has been very successful for a long time but I don’t see St. Thomas Aquinas (Fort Lauderdale, FL) saying we are just like Dela.
If Foothill won NCS in ’99 and 2000 they must have have also won their league and should have championship banners raised at the Falcon’s Nest that have the league name on them. I knew that MV moved to the BVAL for a short time, but did not know about Foothill, Granada & Livermore. Berkeley, Dublin and Castro Valley have also been members of the EBAL over the years.
When I came up with the numbers, I just looked at the chart of NCS champions on the NCS website and counted the number of DFAL teams. Whether Foothill was in the league or not, I couldn’t say, but it doesn’t really have any bearing with my particular point. I just wanted to point out that the a few of the teams that are currently in the DFAL are good teams with winning histories. I just didn’t find it fair for MiraMan, regardless of anyone’s prediction on Encinal-Miramonte, to have to defend the DFAL as a good D2-D3 league. Anyone who knows anything knows that it is. I think the realignment of East Bay leagues will equalize alot of the leagues though. Up North, I’m excited for the NBL realignment. All of the Redwood Empire’s best (minus Eureka) will be in that league (Cardinal Newman, Windsor, Rancho Cotate, Casa Grande, Montgomery, Ukiah, Maria Carrillo, and Santa Rosa). Seven of those eight made playoffs this year and five are still going. Now that will be a super league! Haha.
lol when you guys gonna win a playoff game? your head coach didnt want no part of berkeley so get lost asked to be in the jv league. lol theyve beat some good teams in ncs & i believe the got a ring what you got? nothing go do your hornet jacks nerd!
MiraMan!! Where ya at!!! Ya boys jumped out 14-0 and then Zip! Got 48 straight dropped on ya!! The Student Has Surpassed the Master! I usually don’t gloat like this but MiraMan U was talking big smack! Well ya boys got Whooped!! All Props to Miramonte for a good season and Much Respect to Coach Schram a real Gentleman. That being said…. MiraMan don’t hide now! And As always… Jet Pride is State Wide!
Man…. It started off scary with 14 Miramonte points, but coach Tenorio didn’t flinch and stayed with his gameplay. That guy can coach! He must have saw that Miramonte’s DL was really small and decided to just pound the hell out of the Mats! Banks went from CB/WR to S/RB…..genius! Well timed passes were vicious. Not sure if speed was that big tonight, at least on offense, but the D was swarming, especially little Ve’e! He is nice!
Hey MiraMan, something tells me The Jets would do fine in the “tough” DVAL or DFAL, whatever league your in!!!!!!!
California High School Football – Marin Catholic tipped by Encinal
(December 4, 2010: Kentfield, CA 94904) The Marin Catholic Wildcats football team (Kentfield, CA), was tipped 20-15 in Saturday’s non-league challenge with the visiting Encinal Jets (Alameda, CA)
November 20th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Looking for history to repeat itself:
California High School Football – Encinal prevails Miramonte
(December 4, 2009: Alameda, CA 94501) The crowd at Friday’s non-league contest between the Encinal Jets (Alameda, CA) and the visiting Miramonte Matadors (Orinda, CA), observed Encinal’s football squad defeat Miramonte by a count of 48-32.