- East Bay Prep Corner
Logan football granted “competitive anomaly” status
By Jimmy Durkin
Thursday, January 19th, 2012 at 11:10 am in East Bay Football.
The James Logan High football team has been approved as a competitive anomaly and will play an independent football schedule for at least the next two seasons.
James Logan sought independent status to strengthen its schedule. With Moreau Catholic set to join the Mission Valley Athletic League next season, the Colts would’ve been limited to three nonleague games.
“Everyone knows that our league schedule is not that great,” Logan coach George Zuber said. “We found out that Moreau is joining our league and taking away one of our nonleague games. That’s taking away 25 percent of our good opponents.”
Other East Bay programs have competed as independents for periods of time over the years, including De La Salle football before the school joined the East Bay Athletic League, and the Berkeley girls basketball program. In Logan’s situation, the Colts agreed to allowed the MVAL to keep its automatic NCS playoff berth in order to expedite the approval process.
The move was approved by a 6-2 vote by the MVAL, according to North Coast Section Commissioner Gil Lemmon. It was sent out for ratification by the section’s Bay Shore Conference and by Wednesday had received enough approvals to make the move official, Lemmon said.
The criteria Logan met for being considered a competitive anomaly is based on its performance over the past five years, during which Logan has reached the NCS playoffs each season, achieved a dominant league record and won its league games by excessive margins.
The Colts are 28-1 in MVAL play over the past five seasons and in four of those seasons outscored their league opponents by more than 200 points. This past year, Logan outscored MVAL foes 311-32.
Logan will play the final four games of its MVAL schedule, which this fall will be against Washington, Newark Memorial, Irvington and Mission San Jose. The Colts will not be eligible for the league championship and also will forfeit some all-league nominations.
The Colts agreed to let the MVAL keep its automatic playoff berth, meaning Logan will need to qualify for the postseason as an at-large participant. That also means the Colts will not have home-field advantage if they were to play against a league champion in the playoffs.
“That’s what we were willing to do that to get this,” Zuber said. “We had to place our team goals in front of our individual goals.”
Logan has games scheduled next season against San Leandro, San Ramon Valley, Heritage and Berkeley and still is looking for two more games.
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January 19th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Very interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 19th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
can this set the tone for other teams to do the same?
It happened at DeLaSalle awhile back. Would the ebal allow that or want that now? I think the ebal needs DeLa to get the reck for the rest of the league. Anyway, Spartans ended up avergaing 40 pts. per game allowing 7 per game. The extra NorCal playoff game will all but eliminate the want-ta-bes and pitt the 2 best.
January 19th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
time to step up everbody- see Salesian- it can be done.
January 19th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
I think its good they didn’t stay in their undersized league and that they are looking for more appropriate competition.
But it seems the natural solution would have been to consolidate Logan with San Leandro, Castro Valley, Berkeley and a few others (perhaps the other 2 weak D1′s or perhaps 2 of the stronger D2 teams) in the new Hayward area league. That way the significant D1 Bayshore teams would be in the same league and competing with one another.
But this is better than them staying in MVAL and playing smaller teams including D4 Moreau!!
January 19th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Now thats how you start gaining respect. put up or shut up time. keep the jamboree vids home.
January 19th, 2012 at 2:53 pm
Logan who? @Mira Man..you think with logic You would think NCS would also. Logan at best is an avg good team not anomaly status.
January 19th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
That’s very noble of Logan.
Now mabey people can realize who DLS had to play stepping out of their area over the years-
Hawaii, Ohio, Louissana, Florida, New Jersey
SoCal- Bishop Amat, Mater Dei, Long Beach Poly, Canyon, Crenshaw, Centinnel, WestLake, Bakersfield, Buchannan, Clovis West, Clovis. Some of these teams on muliple occasions.
That structural advantage B.S. is just that- no one complained about it when the Spartans played these jaurgonuts.
January 19th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
If SRV coach wants to complain, drop DeLa from the schedule, you’re still not going anywhere cus the Northern Cal game inserted next year. You still stay outside the window looking in roach.
January 19th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
Old meddlings and other Jet fans- what’s going on with the program- any truth on the rumor Coach T. leaving?
If so, where?
January 20th, 2012 at 12:28 am
Kudos to the James Logan A.D. and head coach, as well as the NCS “suits” for getting this one right. Kudos all around, including programs that have stepped up to the plate and scheduled Logan.
BTW, I am not sure about the peanut gallery comments, but SRV “accepted” a return match. Not sure about the ‘slur’ claimed, but you left your peanut shells on the floor, so get a broom and sweep up you mess!
January 20th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Good move had to be done. 10-0 record means nothing when they’re not getting it done in the play-offs. They have to play better teams to get better, compete, & become an elite d1 team. Nothing wrong with being 8-2 even 7-3 if they’re playing good comp. This league has brang Logan down & given their kids a false sense of security. Maybe over confident. 6 tough games against top d1 schools then 4 games to get healthy at the end sounds like a pretty good formula.
I don’t like the no home field thing though. Fix that NCS. Every team in that league has bowed down except 2 I’m sure 2 of the teams they’re playing. They beat them they should get league champ advantages. Other 6 teams cannot complain they don’t have to play them.
January 20th, 2012 at 6:23 am
DLS should do the same why not. Play the top 5 teams from the EBAL. Give the other 2 a break & play out of section the 1st 5 games. 3 non-leagues I don’t think is enough at this point.
January 20th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Well done Logan!
Big Joe, nice way to take a cheap shot on a blog that has absolutely nothing to do with you, De La or SRV. Real classy champ
January 20th, 2012 at 9:06 am
Subject: Mac vs Minico football story Idaho !!
Here you go Curtis. This ran last night on the news.
http://www.kmvt.com/sports/California-Dreamin-137646613.html?vid=a
January 20th, 2012 at 9:53 am
Good move by Logan. Stepping up the competition and playing good teams is always fun. De La should really be in the WCAL but I know y’all spoke about that already tho. The NCS D-1 championship game is a sleeper cuz we all know who’s gonna win. It’s not even the main event anymore.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:19 am
Panther 4 – it’s called a crack back block and yes I am really classy and also a champ. Did you ever win any football championships when and if you played?
January 20th, 2012 at 10:56 am
Ah I see, hit a guy when he isn’t looking then thump your chest as the crowd oooohs and ahhhhs, a receiver’s dream. Still don’t know what that comment has to do with Logan going independent? In response to SRV’s coaches comments from the NCS game that happened 2 months ago…He just said what everyone else is thinking and afraid to say. Unless of course you are one of the brainwashed DLS minions who believe getting kids from everywhere isn’t an advantage. Tired arguement I know, but factual anyhow. Houston, Cal high neighborhood, Hooper, Cal high neighborhood…That is only two players who happen to be very good not going to their home school and instead playing for DLS. Having them not go to Cal and instead go to DLS doesn’t give them an advantage over Cal? Taking away the great coaching and the system and the blah blah blah. How can this not be considered an advantage? I can’t wait to hear your response, as classy as it’s going to be:) Take away Tom Brady from the Patriots and put him on the Ravens. Patriots still win right because Bellicek is a great coach and its all about coaching in football right?
January 20th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Oh yeah, did play ball…No championships as a player.
January 20th, 2012 at 11:08 am
If DLS went back to independent football….there is a good chance that they would have to do a lot of traveling as almost all the teams in California would not want to schedule the spartans…..DLS is capable of knocking off Junior college teams…As for Logan…they have a large student body to draw from and yet when playoff time rolls around to get knocked off in the first round….The program needs to be stepped up as there is talent at James Logan and it is not being used.
January 20th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Have EBAL football teams really given up as Panther4 proclaims? I doubt the real men (Sweeney, Billeci, Haubner) have given up.
January 20th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Noone said anything about giving up, just stating that DLS has “an” advantage. Real men admit the truth. Junior what is your response to post 17? Or are you going to avoid it like everyone else and insult me?
January 20th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
Let’s simplify things here…Team A is playing against team B. Team A is allowed to take the best players from team B and put them on their team. Does team A have an advantage? I don’t know, you tell me…Or just avoid it and call me soft again
January 20th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I didnt call you soft- but if the shoe fits…
DLS does have advantages… so does Cal, SRV, MV, etc.- will you admit those schools have advantages?
Funny, the league with the most DISADVANTAGES is the OAL and yet we never hear them making excuses… must be some real men over the hill.
Since you like word problems: Team A has a school full of 180-220 LB lineman and Team B has a school full of 180-220 LB lineman… which school has the advantage?
January 20th, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Panther4
You’re outnumbered. Sorry, it is what it is. Who did you play for? We’ll analize the program.
January 20th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
DeLa supporters don’t avoid the comments like your post 17.
Beleive what you like.
You are outside looking in. We have all the cards, like it or not.
Flatory will get you nowhere.
Bye the way, DLS has won many games over the years without passing QB’s, just one of the best atheletes on the field. The coaching fits the player into the system.
Regards- one of the DLS minions.
January 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
good sucker punch- Big Joe! Get the blog going. Too much soccer.
January 20th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
G-r-o-a-n !?!
@Panther4……
No one is TAKING players(student-athletes) from anybody, anyplace. Turn “taking” 180 degrees and you get GIVING up and I am pretty sure that the other schools are not giving up or kicking out their student athletes to DLS. These players go on their own volition, for their own reasons with the underlying motivation being achievement of excellance. If this advantage theme, this athletic stud magnent was rock solid true then DLS should be NCS Champions in EVERY sport year in, year out.
I will admit that having open admissions is an advantage but building a successful,ongoing program can create its own success. I can’t believe e.g that the San Ramon Valley School District with +6500 high school students or the Acalanes School District with +5700 high school students, both with intradistrict transfer policies, couldn’t build a successful, ongoing football program at one of the schools in each of those districts. It will be interesting to see if Campolinda can keep Macy and his coaching staff to build a lasting program. Mira and Campo have shown it can be done in Aquatics….great coaches, great facilities, great parental support. And I know for a fact that student athletes went to those schools because of their excellant aquatics reputation; both through intradistrict transfers and by establishing residencey between their 8th & 9th grade years. Build it and they will come.
Finally I realize this thread is about Logan High’s independent status (sounds better than competitve anomaly) which I see as a good thing. Will be interesting to see how it works out when “playoffs” start this year.
January 20th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
So if Logan is not elgible for the league championship, does that mean that someone else in the MVAL can win the league? And if so, who would have the best chance? I would have to predict either American or Newark Memorial based on last year.
January 20th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Outnumbered? Since BigJoe, YoMama and BigDog are the same person, it is more like one person sending more posts.
I’m not sure what Logan leaving the MVAL has to do with DLS, but it sure got some discussion going about DLS. Logan needs to do this to be competitive in the playoffs. DLS is already dominating in the playoffs, so it is apples to oranges.
Tri-City Dude, that is exactly what it means. Someone other than Logan will be the league champ.
January 20th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
23-Yes, I will admit that EBAL schools have many advantages over schools over the hill. Better facilities, better coaching, better preparation, buy in from the kids and parents, etc. Take those advantages, then add to that being able to not only have all those things, but get to choose you comes to your school and have many top players from EBAL/BVAL neighborhoods and put them together. Now you have De La Salle. So not only do they get better, but the teams that lose the players get weaker. And your 2 schools of 180-220 lb LB Lineman matchup…I’ll take the one that gets to pull their players from all of the bay area, not just a few neighborhoods.
27-I used the wrong term, I didn’t mean taking. They don’t take anything, you are right. They are getting players that would otherwise go to a local high school and play for them. I’ve never said here or anywhere that De La Salle didn’t earn every championship they have won. Lad has done special things over there and could go down as the best high school coach ever. I respect the program and all they have done. I’m just trying to get someone to admit that they have a competitive advantage over other schools. That is it. Not recruiting, not cheating, not anything other than, it’s tough to compete with a school that is basically an all star team year in and year out. Would the neighborhood teams not be better if all of their area players played for them. I think they would and noone would argue that. So if they would be better with those players on their team, aren’t they worse without them. Also, isn’t the team that is lucky enough to have those players going to be better because they have them. That to me is an advantage.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:05 pm
Of course, you assume ALL that get accepted to DLS are “all stars”- fault #1
you assume that the football player he becomes while at DLS would be the same player at SRV- fault #2
you assume only the DLS football program has this advantage as your proof is the consecutive sections titles won- fault #3
you assume no boundries is THE key advantage- there are MANY schools with that “advantage” whom you ignore- fault #4
Study the SJS football teams- learn it, love it, mimic it, live it.
January 20th, 2012 at 4:45 pm
Junior, it’s interesting that many kids not Catholic or not going to DLS play in their local CYO programs, play on traveling teams in many sports, swimming, waterpolo, lacross, basketball, baseball, soceer, pop warner, that take kids from all over- is that a structural advantage?
January 20th, 2012 at 5:34 pm
The program at DLS has outgrown even the EBAL, the league in the east bay most likely to field competition in football. So should they do what Logan has done? Yes.
One thing is not being stated clearly. VERY GOOD TALENTED FOOTBALL PLAYERS FIND A WAY TO GO TO DLS TO PLAY FOOTBALL. If you are a very talented motivated kid that is driven (often aided by the parental factor) you are considering DLS. You may not be “recruited” but you want to go there to “play football”. Who wouldn’t? Once you get there, the best of the best “buy in” to a quality program and work hard, etc., etc.
Do they really need to play Granada, Livermore, maybe even Foothill, Dougherty Valley (in future), Cal High, even Monte Vista or SRV every year? Once every 10 years (e.g., Cal high last year or clayton valley several years back), someone will make a game of it or even win. Who benefits from 7 or 8 56-7 or 48-0 wins every year? NO ONE.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
So I think this is a good move but at the same time before Logan gets to talking about how weak their league is they need to win in the playoffs! And its not like they were a game from the championship every year hilarious!! Just my thoughts!
January 20th, 2012 at 7:32 pm
Moreaufan2,
I saw the quote from the Logan coach and he is certainly no politician in his comments about the competition in MVAL and Moreau joining the league. But his comment wasn’t really intended to insult. In fact he is agreeing with your thought that until they play more top-tier D1 schools, they won’t win regularly in the D1 NCS bracket.
Its great for Moreau that Logan is exiting. Now its a league that Moreau can compete in effectively. In the immediate future, I think Newark Memorial and Washington will dominate, but Moreau will stand a better chance against them than against Logan.
January 20th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
either American,Newark or Washington will win League next year. Kennedy and Moreau will be competitive and Irvington and Mission will be in the bottom two as I see things right now
January 20th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
MiraMan I agree with you, I just feel like it could have been said better. Our kids work hard, not the most athletic kids but they work hard and will compete with every team in the league I believe! Once again logan was puttin big numbers on pretty much every team in that league so we will see how it pans out! Honestly I think alot of teams will be surprised on what we have! As a proud parent i can say we will work hard
January 21st, 2012 at 9:38 am
Will deviate a bit from the Logan topic, but want to give significant props to Healdsburg football coach Tom Kirkpatrick, who announced this week that he is retiring from coaching after 30 years with the program. I think just about anyone who’s played for him, played or coached against him, etc. will agree that he has been a true class act, and that he is a truly unselfish leader. Want to wish him well, thank him for his dedication. GO HOUNDS!
January 21st, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Does anyone feel that logans running backs will have big season this year.all the programs mentioned are losing a lot to graduation logan may place higher than yins think all key players are finally seniors with big game experience.
January 21st, 2012 at 11:12 pm
Who are Logans RB’s, What do they run there? Wing T?
January 21st, 2012 at 11:24 pm
Hey Scl Alum #38,
I enjoyed your comments about coach Kirkpatrick. Well said.
Over the years I have seen a few Healdsburg games, and you confirmed what I saw: a true class act. All the best to coach Kirkpatrick.
January 22nd, 2012 at 9:41 pm
@39 – Logan’s running backs have had big seasons the past 2 years, and now that they are seniors, there is no reason we should expect anything less then big years. They probably won’t have a better regular season than last year’s 10-0 and #2 NCS seeding though. Winning in the playoffs next season is how they will have to prove themselves, and the coach sounds like he is on the right track by giving them some tougher games to prepare for postseason.
January 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
This is great news 4 Logan. However, Coach Zuber is feeling the heat & knows this might be Logan’s last hurrah in getting into the NCS Championship game. With Long,QB(don’t want to misspell his name),Beasley, and Bua all seniors, he’s throwing all his chips in the pot. Even though I don’t like him that much, got 2 commend him 4 stepping up the challenge.
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:17 pm
Well they better do something cuz losing in the first round of playoffs each year is not good at all, especially when you are super arrogant!
January 23rd, 2012 at 11:18 pm
That team like a berkeley High should be comepeting for a state championship every year with the kids they are able to choose from, what like 5,000 kids right?
January 24th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Moreau fan, when your team starts winning games come back & talk, until then keep your mouth shut. B4 Moreau left 4 the HAAL, they used 2 be Logan’s whipping boy in the MVAL!
January 24th, 2012 at 1:36 am
Also, u call us arrogant, I’ll call u ignorant. Berkley has 3500 students while Logan has northern california’s largest enrollment at roughly 4200 students. U lucky Logan is not on your schedule. That would have been a severe beatdown.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Since 2001 Logan’s 3-11 in the playoffs, 2-8 against the EBAL. Just last year there were Logan supporters using Jamboree footage as proof of your teams dominance. How did that, and having NorCals largest enrollment, work out for you? One and done again, the Logan Special. Arrogant sounds about right.
January 24th, 2012 at 11:38 am
Tough break for the Niners.
Raiders, A’s, Giants, Warriors, Sharks, Cal, Stanford SJS, all gave it their all.
De La reps the Bay again. A very strong indication that Bob Lad and his system continues to provide consistancy thru out the decades.
January 24th, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Love it. It’s put up or shut up time. Just wanted to chime in on the enrollment argument. People sayin Logan should win due to huge size are mistaken. Went there and dude, there aren’t many football types at our school. Mostly minorities from non-football backgrounds. I’m sure there are more potential football players at most if not all of ebal schools and most valley schools. Not an excuse, just sayin.
January 24th, 2012 at 1:17 pm
^^^Did he really just compare a HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL team to PROFESSIONAL organiations? Wow….
DLS fans turn neutral observers and admirers against them every chance they get with their arrogance.
January 24th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Gee- I got a reaction from a hater. The point is that DLS was the only Bay Area team, HS, College or Pros that went all the way. The facts speak for themselves. That’s why you are an O Boy.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Subpar, why do u feel the need 2 jump in grown folks business? Nobody asked 4 u 2 cents. What do u have against Logan? Did u happen one of the teams we used 2 constantly beat your team? A little jealous of the first class facilities we provide are student athletes? U need 2 stop your constant hate of the program, it’s not a good look on u. Also, u need 2 make better use of your time & stop wasting it on the computer. I happen 2 know u post on other message boards. One last thing, before u post what your actually name is , I know it’s Sarpar. Just providing a little nickname for u. Just a touch of sarcasm.
January 24th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Bill Walsh and John Madden both commented in the past that the DLS football program was one of the most organized and successful programs of ANYONE that they had ever seen.
January 24th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
UC Rancher,
You’re talking like a real dick. Talking bad about Moreau?? Damn, they’re D4 with about 1000 students!! I sure hope Logan could beat them! The “severe beatdowns” Logan has been delivering has been against schools about 1/3 to 1/2 their size. Once Logan goes up against the Big Boys they fold like a rusty lawn chair. Facts are facts. The irony is that Logan’s coach and AD get it! They’re out looking for bigger dogs to fight so Logan can play at the level they should be at. I applaud what they’re doing and don’t understand why you are defensive about what is obvious to everyone else.
January 24th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
MiraMan don’t worry about UC Rancher. He spent all last season hyping Logan, saying they would be in the championship game, and that if not he’d log on and eat “crow.” Then as soon as they lost to SRV he was whining about how people were trash talking Logan. He’s a child, nothing more.
January 24th, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Either way it sounds like this came just in time for Logan. I’m glad to hear they’re stepping up their competition and hope they have a great season this year.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
@Sarpar, who was the first one 2 come in here on the blog & give respect & props when Logan lost 2 SRV? Me. Who was the first one 2 pile on them like a little immature brat when they lost? U. Like a said before you utter disdain for Logan 4 no apparent reason. I was responding 2 Moreau fan ripping the program when this blog was them stepping up competition when others like u were the ones cryn like little babies about their schedule.@Mira Man, n case you’re don’t know I’m a die hard went comes 2 Logan football. Yeah I come off as a dick, but I bleed red & black. Anything critical about Logan better be factual, or else I’m not afraid 2 express my opposition.
January 24th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
Totally agree with Logan Alum. Football is not much of a emphasis like most schools. Logan is one of the most diverse schools not only in the area but probably the entire state. So the talent pool is not as big as what it appears 2 be especially with cut backs with our programs. U have to pay a hefty fee just 2 play football. If some of u critics would see that maybe u would understand what the coach & the A.D. have 2 work with when it comes 2 running the program.
January 24th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
UC Rancher, they should have been so please dont start trying to talk crap, moreau has turned it around big time, just cause my username say moreaufan doesnt mean I only like them. And Logan has 5,00 students, they shud beat a school with only an enrollment of 800! So what i am suppose to oh so respect them because they win the MVAL every year, please, win in the post saeason, its easy for them to win their weak non league and league games, but they aint did anything in post season. and so what if we would have gotten a bet down who cares, what wud it mean for u guys, yay we beat a D4 team, get out of hear, please, oh u got me shakin in my pants. i am so glad we dont have to play the great all mighty Logan!!!! hahahaha, Rancher you get some nerve bro! Our coach at moreau has turned that program around
January 24th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Amd why dont you guys play any team from San jose, bellermine, or across the water teams like serra, if you really all that! And u guys cant even beat berkeley! So u got balls to talk mess about a d4 team and feel good about urself? U whack bro!
January 24th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Moreau fan u ain’t gotta worry about Logan. Just don’t start mouthing off when your team is a bottom feeder. I understand u want 2 make a statement by taking a shot at the big dogs. But in order 2 do that it’s going 2 take baby steps. But good luck in the MVAL.
January 24th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
You’re the point Moreau fan. Win some games then talk some crap. Yeah I know it’s been awhile since we last won a game in the playoffs, but the point is 2 get there. You’re program has not been good of late, so there’s alot of work 4 u 2 do. Worry about ya self, b4 u worry about Logan.
January 26th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Okay, But when did Logan win a meaningful playoff game bruh? U sound crazy taking shots at a little small school, get real, yeah i can say what I want,which is I would like to see the biggest school in northern cali win some games in the postseason and play farther than round one! thats all I am saying, ur right we havent won a playoff game and baby steps is fine, but i know one thing I would rather do that then be super arrogant d1 school that cant really win with the true big boys, do that then u will have my respect! And lets not talk about how bad u guys are in boy basketball!!! i could go on and on and on!!!!! And we have been good as of late! we went 6-3-1, and 6-4 last two years, not bad for a little d 4 aschool with no athletes right!!! Just know that ur Logans boys have to prove themsleves, and if they do, then they get my props, by the way, logan is a nice school!! Good luck going independent! And trust me we wont be a bottom feeder! we will compete like evryone else!
January 27th, 2012 at 3:02 am
@moreau fan…..”yawn”
January 27th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
That’s what I be sayin about you! Great!
January 28th, 2012 at 12:59 pm
I don’t want your respect. I could care less about Moreau. I came on this blog 2 talk about how good it was the Logan was stepping up, & u being new 2 things wanna come n here a take cheap shots when your team itself is not all that great. Also, why u bringing boys basketball? Way off topic. Your reachin Moreau fan.
January 28th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Who said u had my respect? stop being so sensitive! Not taking cheap shots, but the way they made it sound was as if we forced their hand to go independent and thats not the case, they made it sound in the article that since we joined the league we made it worse,a dn thats not cool to me because they are a big school and could have went independent a long time ago,but to make it sond like our kids cant compete is not cool and it cud have been worded differently. And if u cud care less about moreau then why did u comment in the first place? I think alot of these coaches these days coach for the wrong reasons, its all about ego, and thats what I felt was coming from Logan in this article. U guys are expected to win u have 5,000 students, and thats all good, but to take a shot at a small school and its kids is not the way to say why ur moving out of a league! So I dont reepect the way the made their comments in the article, cuz really the MVAL is not a pwer house league! So the move could have been made long ago! And as far a reaching goes, My point is clear, just because ur considered a big dog means nothing u have to prove it, and that comes from hard work, no matter what level or division the team is on! A tem like Salesian, plays in a whack league, but they always find teams in non league to play that are playoff teams for the most part, now they are getting out of that league but u never hear them try to talk down another team as a reason for it!
January 29th, 2012 at 3:38 pm
Read the article again Moreau fan. U are the one being sensitive. Facts are facts & numbers don’t lie. They dominated league play for the past three years. The MVAL has been down for awhile now. Logan is try 2 make themselves by competing against better teams which they don’t have presently in the MVAL. U took zubers comments as a slap in the face when he was just telling the truth. You’re the only one who took offense 2 it when everybody else agree with his statements & actions.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:09 pm
moreau’s done what? good luck to logan its time for ncs to get rid of league titles deciding home field games in ncs. there’s some bad leagues being formed this year.
January 29th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
NFL, Moreau hasnt done anything, we just samll school trying to get better, but that dont mean i cant comment on what someone says and i could care less who it is! Just giving the sensitive dude a hard time! I made a comment and he took offense to it! M whole thing is this could have happened long ago, but all of a sudden u say its because of moreau, well too my knowledge he could have made his case when all this was going down!
And UC Rancher you are right, I feel his comments could have been said differently, so thats what it is! i dont disagree with them leaving but it could have happened a long time ago, so now that u do it u have to mention Moreau the way he did, just didnt agree, just move on and go from there! its the biggest school in northern Cali right, they should have been working to do this is my point!
January 30th, 2012 at 7:07 am
i find it funny everyone comes on here and rips this league and that league…if you are not in the BVAL or EBAL you have no room to talk as a D1 competitor. All leagues are inferior to those two. The only other good league right now in terms of football is the DFAL, but they are very top heavy. Campo had a once in a lifetime season but were coming off a very down year and dublin had their best year in a long long time. So last year very good for a D2/D3 combo league, but i wouldn’t call them an elite league by any means either.
January 30th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Moreaufan2,
Don’t fret over the quote. I’m not surprised whatsoever with his comments. In many people’s eyes we’re the lowest of the low and we won’t be able to pull ourselves out of it. We know we can and will, let everyone else talk and discuss. We’ll keep getting better, let it show on the field, and maybe one day (if we’re as competitive as Logan in football), it could come back to bit ‘em. But right now, it’s simple material that will be posted on the window in the coaches office for the whole team to see every day.
However, if you look at his quote, he does have a point. Right now, Logan is by far the best team in the MVAL and they only get 4 games to prove their seeding in NCS. So adding us, it takes away one of the non-league games that they could play a big time opponent. Now, I’ll admit, I don’t really understand why they’re doing this. Improving the seeding is only that great, but in DI, you will run into DLS at some point, and you always become an “also ran”. I wouldn’t be surprised if they look into joining CCS or maybe realize the difficulty of scheduling an independent schedule and move back into the MVAL.
Either way, there are far more interesting/exciting things to worry about in the Moreau Catholic football program than a quote from a coach in the middle of January. The construction of the new facilities will help us make a jump to the next level, the movement into a new league, where we should be instantly competitive, and our boys are grinding it out in the weight room getting better every day are much more exciting topics to discuss.
Ride the Wave!
-MF
February 1st, 2012 at 8:29 am
I feel you, but I just enjoy making these cats get all excited and talkin! But definitely our kids and coaches will abttle hard and prepare our ids to compete no matter what league we’re in!
February 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am
@ all bloggers. I posted the logan JAMBOREE/season video not to show any dominance but to show the development of one player. Over the years we have had the opportunity to watch a runningback / outside linebacker grow.I wanted positive comments on LONG’s progress. The post was not to invoke negative comments filled with hate. I understand the one and done concept and believe me the srv.loss left a bad taste in mouth.I love to see all players grow and become top atheletes.Moreaufan2 pls. stop you know who we are and as someone stated earlier its probably a good think that your team wont have to contend with this group.Also logan played three well coached teams in the non division part of their schedule and physically beat those teams. If all key players remain on the field and are sent out on varying pass / run routes they should place higher than one and done good luck to all and see yins next year.
February 5th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
DJ, I’m sure people were just having some fun with that jamboree video that was posted. While it was just a glorified practice session, it was against 3 top tier teams and Logan did play well that day against all 3 squads. At the time it was posted, the season was well under way, so I can see how it looked like a desparation ploy to show that they had played well aganst some good teams, since the regular season was a walk over.
Logan should be a force next season, and Long is expected to be a big part again. I wish them luck in 2012 unless they face the Grizz. Seeing that your screen name has “long” in it, are you related to him or just a Logan booster.
February 5th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
prep fan , I can tell you have an extreme amount of class which is appreciated.I will admit the video came out at the wrong time.Thanx for clarification.Your team should have went beyond what it did. If all the other bloggers would conform and realize the south and the south west has an enormous amount of parent support. I am trying to do that for our kids we can compete with the best of them. If you check the scores of all american games the west won majority, our kids are awesome!!.If WEEE represent our area and push our Atheletes to the next level schools like Cal, Stanford and so on wont have to leave the area to recruit.My Handle has long in it because i have been dj falong.It was nice to meet you after the logan srv defeat.Good luck next year you deserve it. P.S Lets advertise our kids. @ the semper fi we had three and still not on the radar. these organizations are predominately East coast. Lets push our kids and flood the recruiting sites with info. The three or four that stood out needed help what about those key players. NCS lets goooo !!!