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30Q-2-KICKOFF (No. 10): Casting call
By Ben Enos
Friday, August 3rd, 2012 at 10:00 am in 30 Questions to Kickoff, East Bay Football.
This might be the most fun I’ve ever had with a 30 Questions topic.
For those who haven’t heard, the book “When the Game Stands Tall” by former Contra Costa Times columnist Neil Hayes is being turned into a movie. The tale of De La Salle’s football team will be directed by Thomas Carter, who directed “Coach Carter”.
So, who ya got acting in the movie???
First, a disclaimer. I got this idea from our friends over at SportStars Magazine, who covered it in depth in their last issue. I laughed pretty hard at the breakdown they gave.
So, I got to thinking. Who should be in this flick? First of all, I’m locking up Liam Neeson for Bob Ladouceur. Neeson is in everything these days, and I think he’s got the range to play the head guy. I think this one’s a slam dunk.
Next, and perhaps most importantly, who plays defensive coordinator Terry Eidson? I’ve seen some message board chatter that has everyone from Jack Black to Al Pacino in the role. So, I thought, who could do any sort of role you asked and serve the role with the right, shall we say, intensity?
It’s a no-brainer (and I stole this idea from a friend as well): Christopher Walken. Could you imagine him on the sideline? I know, they look nothing alike. It’s Hollywood. Walken’s abilities transcend looks. I NEED MORE COWBELL.
OK, so we need to cast a few other key roles. Here we go:
Maurice Jones-Drew played by… Maurice Jones-Drew: I don’t know if MJD has any acting chops, but the dude has some time on his hands. What better way to spend it than portraying himself on the big screen? We’ll get him a stunt double to keep him fresh for the upcoming season.
Dan Shaughnessy played by Robert Duvall: Coach of Salesian at the time, you’d have to cast Shag as the opposing coach, I think. Think of the Robert Duvall in Days of Thunder rather than today’s Robert Duvall. Don’t you think Harry Hogge could get the Chieftains going? I could see it.
Role of unnamed high school prep reporter played by Justin Long: If you’re thinking back to who covered the team at the time, you can eliminate me. I was a senior in high school in 2002. This would be a bit part, since the beat writer doesn’t appear too much in the book. Also, since we’ve got Justin Long, I would find a spot in the movie for his nemesis in the Apple commercials, PC. That guy could play a referee, I figure, and together I bet we could get em on the cheap.
OK, there are obviously a ton more roles to be cast. If you can find a way to work Sandra Bullock into the flick and still stay under budget, then you’ll guarantee big box office results. I know you all have some ideas. Bring em on.
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August 3rd, 2012 at 10:25 am
Terry Eidson Should be played by Kim Coates..he already has the goat-T and that intensity with attitude.
August 3rd, 2012 at 10:44 am
(Criminal Minds Star)Thomas Gibson would do a great job as Coach Lad.
Good bang for the buck.
Regarding Kim Coates(Sons of Anarchy) as Terry Eidson..you have two guys with girls names who both can go psycho and have some humor at the same time.
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:45 am
Loving Neeson as Lad.
Lad: “Who called outside veer? I will hunt you down and kill your family.”
August 3rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
Ron Silver (angelo dundee in “ali”) would be perfect to play Terry Eidson
August 3rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Great! Not as if they need any more amo to distract, oops, attract top players to make their parents “pay” for a $14k high school diploma. The rich do keep getting richer!
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 pm
I’m with Allie- now DLS is going to attract actors, writers, producers, etc. How will any public school drama dept compete with that?
August 3rd, 2012 at 1:52 pm
AllieKat, 14K tuition is for all students, not just the football team. 14K buys you 4 years college prep courses, lots of AP classes, great teachers that don’t quit, safe school enviorment and many other perks you wouldn’t understand unless you are paying the bill. DLS grad rate is 99% to college and appx. 90% to 4 year schools.
There are several schools with a bigger tuition bill- St. Mary’s in Berkeley for one, Bellarmine, St. Francis, Serra and St. Ignauis in the city charges $ 18 K plus.Bye the way, most DLS and CHS parents both work and sometimes have 2 jobs. They are not all rich, I would say the Orinda, Moraga and DanVille and SRV schools have a bigger combined parent income.
It’s tough when you can’t beat them isn’t it.
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 pm
I wasn’t referring to the rich literally. Let’s take our heads out of the sand and stop pretending that one of the major reasons these top football(and Basketball) prospects are going to DLS isn’t because of the prestige of the football program. Well deserved prestige I might add. I am merely stating that the children of the Montana’s, Wisnewski’s, Mckenzie’s, Allen’s, Mullin’s, etc. are not sending their children to DLS because of their stellar academic tradition.
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Enjoy incoming Frosh Boss Tagaloa DLS fan. Another Pittsburg kid you all will watch help DLS win another state title. Really suspicious how he gets put on the waiting list initially, then attends the DLS football camp this summer and all of a sudden he’s accepted. VEEEERY coincidenta!.
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Sounds like the Danville wannabee’s want their own movie
August 3rd, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Allie- can send a few more big boys to Winton Dr please. The Spartans have not had many D1 lineman.
Oh, and when exactly will Mckenzie’s kid be enrolling?
-You left out Olympic medalist Ipsen BTW.
August 3rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Allycat- Montana’s kids didn’t make it at DLS. 3rd string and transfer to Oaks Christian after realizing he’s not going to run the program, the program runs you.
Mullin’s kid? Wisneski’s kid? Allen’s? McKenzie’s?
That’s an easy one- coach the Raiders- live in Piedmont – enroll in the OAL?
Now these famous kids need to realize there’s no colored hair and the dean makes you dry-shave in the bathroom if you aren’t shaved, the second time he sends you home.
August 3rd, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Alleycat, you failed to read or mention the academic stats provided to you. Pick up a graduation program or google it if you think the Spartans are down on smarts.
Bye the way, smart kids play smart football under control, one of the cornerstones of that program.
Must be a reason why DLS pros always seem to mention how that program molded them for college and they still respect and seek advice from former coaches?
That’s humbling.
If DJ Williams and MDJones believe in it I bet we CAN make you too- remember say ” I Believe!”
August 3rd, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Fellow Football fans,
I think what Alleycat is insinuating is something all together different than what he is being “critiqued.” Boss Tagaloa was closely watched by the Pitt football staff all last season. Everyone that watched him said (and says) the same thing, “this is a very special kid.” I have couple of close friends whose kids played with Boss last season with Pittsburg youth football and went to middle school with him. In other words, they are his friends.
Boss applied to DLS and was placed on the waiting list. He attends a DLS football camp, and shortly their after, he gains admission with full tuition assistance. How do I know this? Pittsburg is Pittsburg (and has a very “Payton Place” mentality). Unfortunately, we all know way too much about each other.
But to Alleycat’s point (I think), we all know many Pittsburg kids who have attended the private Catholic school in Pitt (St Peter Martyr) who applied and were accepted to DLS, with similar financial challenges as Boss’s family. None were athletes, just students. The difference is those who were on the waiting list did not gain admission, and of those accepted, none were granted tuition assistance. My guess is Alleycat may know one or more of those families (as I do).
Does this rise to the occasion of a conspiracy?? (What did Lad know and when did he know???) Beats me. But as the days of the “silly season” tick down to kick off, what else are we to talk about?
August 3rd, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Sure hope Boss held out for the limo to/from school that MJD got.
Full tuition is not nearly enough for this kid.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:22 pm
@ Junior,
Boss is the type of prospect that DLS followers dream of. Yes, he is that talented. I understand he is working out with the JVs. I really hope it works out for him.
August 3rd, 2012 at 9:47 pm
It would be an interesting turn of events regarding this kid because as I remember wasn’t Pitt great Ken Simonton denied admission?
By the way some guy on a different board said that Tagaloa was coming to DLS a few weeks ago, but he was a part of the SF Warriors program?
August 4th, 2012 at 12:17 am
Sorry Grunt-most DLS fans dream of kids who will embrace the culture of the school. Talent is down the list.
August 4th, 2012 at 12:24 am
A lot of schools could win 100+ games in a row when you get to pretty much hand pick your athletes, and poach the top few players from each town within an hour in any direction
Of course the guys at DLS are great coaches, but do not forget, they get to RECRUIT
Many other states have completely separate divisions in playoffs for Private and Public schools, something I wish CA would adopt
August 4th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Wow! this is going to interesting! Hopefully better than coach carter!
August 4th, 2012 at 6:32 am
@ Renegades10,
The Ken Simonton era was before my settling in charming Pittsburg. It should be noted that Ken is now coaching RBs at Pitt.
@Junior,
My mistake. Forget what I have said on this issue.
August 4th, 2012 at 8:05 am
Bval – doesnt Berean Christian get to hand pick their athletes?
August 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am
DeLaSalle doesn’t give full tuition assistance to anyone. It’s a tuition break, the max is usually 50 %.
My nephew was on the waiting list for DLS coming out of an out of area Catholic grammer school. He too attended the football camps. He and his parents made a commitment to SPSV while waiting and stood by it. He got off waiting list right before school started, but the SPSV commit was made and they stuck by it. Lineman of the year, all bsal, all vallejo, all area/metro, state nominee. He played on 2 ncs teams for Marlon Blanton with a 23-3 record. The point is students get off waiting lists all the time. His performance at the camps did not get him off the waiting list, the process did. In area Catholic schools first, siblings next, out of area Catholic next,local private grammer, local public after that. Mabey you don’t realize that you take an entrance exam and interview also. Pittsburg has been gnerating those stories about kids being plucked up by DLS for years. The point is those kids want to go to DLS or someone takes an interest in helping them get their act together. Ask Marlon Blanton(pitt kid) and Pitt coach Vic Galli. I think they can steer you straight.
August 4th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Pitt Grunt- here’s some facts about Steeltown. John Henry Johnson, the most famous and best player EVER to come out of Pittsburg High attended St. Mary’s College of Moraga for his first 2 years. This guy is in the football HOF. See, way before the DLS craze, Pittsburg players were gravitating to small Catholic schools- Johnson to the rolling hills of Moraga.
August 4th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
BigJoe, just a clarification, there is a scholarship given at DLS that provides full tuition assistance. It’s called the Bishop Cummins scholarship. I know 3 current students at DLS who received this. One of them didn’t make the football team his freshman year but was a manager for them, ended up running track and now made the JV football team. The other two didn’t make the B-Ball team their freshman year, both were also team managers and now one of them swims and the other one is a very talented singer. I can’t remember the exact number of kids that get it in each class, it’s in the 10-15 range. The summer before their freshman year they are required to attend classes before school starts.
August 4th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
Pittsburg has always had a large Catholic influence coming from the old days when Dagos and Portagees worked in the mills. No surprise kids want to go to a Catholic high school.
August 4th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
How many years at a local/outside parochial? Does a one year kid (let’s say 8th grade only) have the same standing as the nine year one? (K through 8th)
August 4th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
…just read #26. What’s with using ethnic slurs on this board? C’mon now!
August 5th, 2012 at 3:03 am
ethnic slurs? could you be any softer? lol
August 5th, 2012 at 9:40 am
tired. WYLASOMWTC
August 7th, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Ken simonton denied admission..thats so far from the truth..this is the kind of de la thinking that makes me sick..at that time de la was trying to recruit most of those kids that came to pitt..renagade get your facts straight..thats terrible that you would even come on here and say something like that…ima throw up
August 7th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
most likely didn’t pass the entrance exam.
August 7th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Pitt01, I’ve heard this from multiple people about Simonton, this isn’t something I made up. I’ve heard the same was true for Kyle Wright of Monte Vista.
August 7th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Well the min i read this post i asked the man personally..so like i said its that frame of mind thought that makes me sick..u dont know the facts but come on these things talking about what you dont know..
August 7th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Look people..i have no problem with a kid like boss going to de la..he is going to have a chance for a great education and chance to play at the next level..what makes me sick is people acting like de la doesnt recruit or let kids in on athletics alone..if boss was a trumpet player in the band he would still be on the waiting list..but he is not..he is a stud football player that got in on athletic ability..which is fine..but dont act like thats not why de la accepted him..you people who argue this are blind to the truth and are not in touch with reality
August 7th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Pitt recruits too.
August 7th, 2012 at 10:40 pm
Amen Pitt01… ’bout time DLS started recruting D1 lineman… what have they been waiting for?
August 8th, 2012 at 12:23 am
Interesting Pitt01, if I was wrong that’s my bad. Usually these guys are right on. Like I said, I didn’t come up with this out of the blue.
But let me ask you this. Certainly, the timing of Boss getting into DLS looks bad; however, couldn’t it also be a coincidence? I mean maybe it was really his turn on the list. You (fairly) called me out about not knowing all the facts. So did you go to Boss or his family and ask what happened or is it an assumption…
August 8th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
DeLa doesn’t need the Pitt kids if that what Pitto1 thinks. We’re getting ‘em out of Fairfield, Vallejo, West County too. They all want to come here- get it???
I think Long Beach Poly does the same thing- they are called the Los Angeles all-stars.
Anyway if DLS defenders bother ya you’re going to be gettin’ sick and puking for a long time. Have a lot of gatoraid handy to replenish those electro-lites.
August 8th, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Hey big dog if de la doesnt need pitt kids why are some of the best talent to ever come thru there pitt kids..callen bros muhammed dimitirus williams cameron colvin willie glasper pika brothers dj williams…im not saying the didnt do a good job of developing this kids..but alot of there success comes from the backs of pitt kids dont kid urself
August 8th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
I thought I would get that response. Of course DLS wants Pitt kids. I was making the point that lots of kids from all over, not just Pittsburg go to DeLaSalle.
You forgotr the Wards.
You don’t have to school me about Pittsburg. I was running track against those guys in ’68. Let’s see, Butler, Busby, Lawson, Alfaro, Black the list goes on.
Pitt also upset Bellarmine 7-0 in the ’66 football game breaking the Bell’s 29 game win streak.
Of course, Alioti at DeLa is a former Pitt QB who had an excellent college career.
Who can forget Galli, ex- DLS.
With so much connection, you should be rooting for the Spartans when not playing Pitt.
Pitt had a lot of success in all sports especially football way before DeLaSalle was ever built, remember John Henry Johnson.
So Pitt01, not to beleager the fact that Pitt has always had talent and will continue to do so. The closet private is DLS, so to the victor goes the spoils. If there was another private closer, they would benifit. We had Pitt kids going to St. Mary’s in Berkely in the ’60′s.
There’s a reason why the players mentioned went to DLS. If you beleive they all got recruited out of pop-warner, etc. that’s your opinion.
I think the parents and grandparents had a lot to do with it. You fail to mention all the other kids that come from Pittsburg that don’t play sports and go to DLS.
August 8th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Bigdog you are the one that said that they dont need pitt kids..im saying they do and will continue to need them..im not hating on them..but when people act like pitt kids arent needed over there thats not true..yes they have kids from all over..yes they have great talent from everywhere..but that is recently..when they where at there peak it was a majority of our guys that where the stand out players..kids do wanna go there and perants wanna send there kids there..so in a sense they dont recruit….but think about this there is a waiting list that all these kids have to get on correct..all these kids go to a camp they put on..u dont think the coaches have some kind of pull to say hey i need this kid to get accepted into the school..how else can you explain all this d1 talent they have every year..not to take away anything from the coaching its 2nd to none..but hutch hooper egu moffett are getting scholarships at anyschool they go to..
August 8th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I was fooling on Pitt kids to get your reaction. DLS has always supported Pitt kids and vica versa. OK, let’s move on.
During the entrance meeting, the DLS interviewers don’t have anything to do with the athletic dept.
If a kid answers that his parents want him to go and he doesn’t, the interview is stopped- no entrance.
The interviewers have been very keen on asking questions of candidates about how they came to be interested, did anyone contact them, alumni contacts, promises, etc. To this day NOT one piece of evidence has come up about recruiting.
About the div1 players at DeLa, they are putting less in since the streak years, there are other schools that put up even more div1, ( Bishop Gorman, LongBeach Poly, etc.)
Colleges don’t take the risks they did in the past, they want student-atheletes who aren’t going to fall out or fail, good citizens of the school and responsibility. They don’t want to waste scholarships, not that many available in today’s college world. The DeLaSalle athele is a perfect fit for this. They have lots of accountabilty and disclipline from the structured enviorment they are in.
However, great playing skills will always win with the recruiter, but good solid background counts a lot.Grades also play into college also. USC can have 7 running backs, why take one with low grades?
Pitt has put big numbers to div1 over the years along with other publics, look at Berkeley High.
The majority of the DLS football team will not play college ball, however when ya run into that second string that feels like a 1st string, that’s a big motivator. The program is run like a college program, in essence the players are getting a much more mature aspect of football. Conditioning and coaching will win out every time in high school football.
August 9th, 2012 at 8:03 am
BigDog your last paragraph is extremely accurate and probably the most rational non-Pitt analysis. Pitt01, you too are also correct. I happen to also know Boss’ family background a little and their football situation. He played the past 2 years for the Jr. Pirate Pop Warner program and the kid is an absolute freak. He’s a 3.0 student(not 3.8) out of Rancho Medanos Jr. High in Pittsburg. He was put on the waiting list after going through the entire application process and was firmly on that list until he attended their Football Camp.
Now you DLS fans cannot be that blinded by your own Miopic point of view to think that Lad or Joey Alliotti(Pittsburg Football Hall of Famer) don’t have any influence on a student athlete being moved up the list in any way shape or form. One of the primary criterias of getting into DLS and Carondolet is that you attend a Catholic school in grades 6-8 and if you don’t you will need to be a borderline straight A student to gain acceptance from a Public Jr. High. So to say that the kid was accepted because of principle, family integrity, religious background or academic background is a slap in the face of the 3.0 students or even 2.8 gpa students that are still on the waiting list that attended QAS, St. Peter Martyr, St. Agnes, etc. and don’t respond with “well if they are a 2.8 gpa student Boss deserves to get in regardless if someone else goes to a Catholic school.”
We ALL know some family who’s child was or was not admitted to DLS with subpar academic numbers. Bottom line, families of the City of Pittsburg have been an intricate figure in that school since its inception, student athletes or regular students. I would love to see the stats for for student residency at DLS since it was founded. I’d wager that Pittsburg has had more students(athletes or not) than any other city not named Walnut Creek, San Ramon or Pleasanton and it’s not even close. Maybe Dublin…
So Miopic DLS fans…just simply say thank you to the city of Pittsburg for helping you not be Cardinal Newman and there should be acknowledgement and or a closing thank you in the credits paying homage to the city of Pittsburg. De La Salle has a GREAT athletic department and I enjoy watching them represent Contra Costa County in the State Championship. The majority of us do in fact. Why wouldn’t we?! For the most part they represent some of the best families in the entire Contra Costa County. That’s what the biggest advantage DLS has too. Not the ability to accept students from all over, but they are getting a much higher percentage of students that are coming from solid households. I KNOW they have students with rough family structures. I’m not saying they don’t. I’m saying that they have a higher percentage than most other schools. Add great coaching to that and there’s your National Powerhouse.
August 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
The kids at Pittsburg and everywhere else should be the ones thanking DeLaSalle.
There are numerous students not getting in, private and public and also playing pre-high school sports from all areas.
You are entitled to your opinion, but if you think Lad or Alioti make up the admission rules or lists then you don’t understand the process.
Since the bloggers who have had students at DLS or Carondelet have gone thru it, I believe their understanding is very accurate.
Bye the way, their are public school kids below a 4.0 gpa who have been admitted. I know 3 of them and none of them played sports. You have some very good points on DLS success.
August 9th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
You can not possibly think that Lad has no weight regarding who he’d like to see admitted in to the school? He MORE than likely does, and he should. He’s built that program to national prominence and has done it with students athletes from all over the Bay Area. All I ask of DLS fans, and the CC Times for that matter, is once in a while acknowledge it. That would be one interesting read and probably the first ever. How about an article of about how the best of the Bay helped build that program? It is a Laundry List of players from city to city, not just Pittsburg kids. But whether it’s Victor Galli, Marlon Blanton, Robert Portis or Michael Hutchings, Pittsburg kids have played a huge role in their success.
As far as Pittsburg folks thanking DLS…any teacher worth their salt will always say that it’s the student that’s the reason for the students success. DLS is not making anyone anything they are not, meaning, they’re not taking bad kids and making them good kids. They are enhancing young peoples education with tremendous resources provided by a lucrative Athletic Department and solid Alumni support, but they are certainly not making them something they are not. They are getting a high percentage of kids that want to be taught, and that is huge for any good teacher/coach. So youre telling me they should thank DLS for charging parents $56k for a high school diploma? And to someone’s earlier comment about that not being enough from what they get out of a DLS education…there are numerous graduates who don’t have college degrees or even had 3.0 gpas while at DLS and are doing no better than a public school graduate. An education is what you make it and I’d venture to guess that a higher percentage of Middle to Lower Class students that attend DLS do not get college degrees than former students who do get college degrees from Middle to Lower Class. I’m not buying the “they learned tremendous values” either. They learned that at home, not from the priests. Spare me the 1% percent of students from the lower class that actually went to college from their too. The one or two examples or names any of you try and drop is not justification.
August 9th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
DLS is taught by the Christian Bros. , a teaching order, they are not priests. DLS has a 99% grad rate to college- 80% to 4 yr schools. I would say that the exposure students are getting is contributing to that kind of college stats. That’s what parents are spending $ 56 k for, superior student counseling dept, planned college nites, guidance for students were to apply based on abilities, etc.
As far as the teaching orders at the various parochial schools, ask grads if they feel their teachers and counslers plus their exposure helped shape their future for college and life. I would venture to say 80% would say yes.
So, yes parents and the students have a lot to do with success. What DLS and other parochial schools do is to fill in the gaps. They are basically the student’s parents away from home, that’s what you pay $ 56 for. As far as DLS, they have been academically successful way before they had a football team. They opened in 1965 and didn’t have a varsity team until mid seventies. So the atheletic program is not contributing financially to the student’s success but rather the student’s exposure. There are a lot of students not playing any sports but are involved in clubs, band, activities, etc. The 3 students I gave are family, so those examples are 100%.
So if you think students aren’t learning life long values at the Catholic high schools, you are highly mistaken.
Since you obviously don’t have students attending any of these schools you would not fully understand which is fully understandable. We however have students at these schools or are alumni from these schools and have direct knowledge and experience. It’s like the military, hard to comp if you haven’t served.
As far as Lad, read the book ” As the game stands tall.” Lad is a religion teacher. He doesn’t screen applicants for football. Alioti is the Dean of disclipline and a teacher, he’s got enough on his plate already.
Why would DLS acknowlege the players on the team from other cities? DLS is open, the only Catholic high school in East contra costa county. They cover from the delta all the way to Livermore. That’s a tremedous area and a lot to draw from.
One more thing, DLS has had more than several successful players leave the school for academic reasons, so if they favor football players they would have kept them. DLS has lots of rules, if you can’t abide, your out. There are students lining up to go to DLS, St. Ignauis and Bellarmine, the last two are a lot more prestigious than DLS. They have been around since the 1800′s and have students from all over including over-seas. You should research them, as Dan Fouts and Dan Pastorini are household NFL names from the past, mabey they got a cup of coffee during the morning break because they were QB’s.
August 9th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
#46 Pete posted among other things:
“…….An education is what you make it and I’d venture to guess that a higher percentage of Middle to Lower Class students that attend DLS do not get college degrees than former students who do get college degrees from Middle to Lower Class……”
How about simply the highest percentage of motivated students and parents? In my business It’s not always the brightest that gets the job or can do the job….motivation is very important.
Gr-o-o-a-n…….every year we get to witness the re-invention of the wheel, again & again & again with regards to the inner workings of DLS athletics and academics.
PLEASE Jimmy D & Ben E, establish a permanent x-file, maybe you can call it Area 51, where all the conspiracy theories, “inside facts”, friend of a friend of a friend sources, with regards to how DLS “does it”, can be kept. Then once a year The EB Prep Corner can hold a contest for the newest, the boldest and the most creative “insight” to add to the DLS Area 51 x-file.
August 10th, 2012 at 12:12 am
Great points by all. Unfortunately you all paint DLS as perfection. That the points anyone ever tries to make are all fairy tales. Blasting anti-DLS points of views as lies and jealousy is what I mean by Miopic. I didn’t say anything about graduation to college rate for all students, I said what’s the rate for middle to Lower cass students, and sorry, JuCo’s don’t count.
What Concrete said is basically the same thing I said so I don’t get that comment. You say “Motivated Students” and I said “students that want to learn”.
Also your “friend of a Friend” comment is all innuendo. You have NO idea who I know or what I know. Have you all thought for a second that someone in this world that says critical things about the mighty Spartans just might have more inside information than a DLS parent or student who is going to get information the school wants you to have?
August 10th, 2012 at 12:16 am
Bottom line…Boss Tagaloa was on the waiting list going in to the camp, then was accepted after. Not right after smart alecs, could’ve been two or 3 days. Relax!
If you had a kid who attended a parochial school and was on the waiting list and you found out this situation, how would you feel?
August 10th, 2012 at 6:39 am
Here are some things I’ve learned:
-Pittsburg has built DLS-thank you pirate faithful. Can the other cities learn from Pitt and follow their lead please.
-Any parent with a promising football player-send their son to DLS football camp so Lad and the staff can get them admitted.
-Concrete17 has an outstanding idea.
August 10th, 2012 at 7:30 am
Now that’s more like it junior! About time!
August 10th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Hey Pete- I owe much of it to you- thank you. You are clearly the most objective, insightful poster I have seen in a long time.
August 10th, 2012 at 8:53 am
Lol
August 10th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Junior, mabey Pete could scout for us and do some recruiting.
August 10th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Many factors contribute to DLS’s success. IMO, the major factor is the total (school, parent, student, coaching, fans, etc) commitment to winning. The catalyst is Bob Ladouceur’s leadership and intelligent use of resources available to him. Anyone successful in life will tell you taking advantage of your opportunities and uncompromising commitment is what it takes. I’m an EBAL dad. I’m ok with DLS and what they do. Yea its frustrating to never get past them but they don’t cheat, they are gentlemen on and off the field and they are friends. When they play out of league I pay attention and support them.
What I think everyone is trying to tell all you DLS bloggers is that your pathetic reluctance to concede your real competitive advantage is dishonest and will only make beating you one day oh so sweet. An EBAL or other East Bay team school will beat you one day. That’s the team they should really make the movie about.
August 10th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
I don’t think any DLS blogger or fan hasn’t conceded all the factors that you listed. We all agree on them.
What outsiders want us to concede is that DLS cheats and recruits. Is that pathetic reluctance?
As far as beating DLS, we have been beat in the past, get up and dust it off and real off another streak type performance. DLS is not afraid to loose.
Also, the majority of the other EBAL schools should have the same major factors you listed already instilled. The school demo’s and economics are the same and the EBAL has put many non-football teams to NCS champs( swimming, water polo, golf, track, baseball, volleyball, etc.), there’s no advantage at DLS over these EBAL teams, are they? Then why football? Simple, it’s the system from top to bottom for the last 30 years.
August 10th, 2012 at 5:45 pm
If I hear you barefoot- you believe DLS football has an unfair advantage due to open enrollment…and your proof is their winning. Correct?
August 10th, 2012 at 6:34 pm
DLS does not have an unfair advantage, they have a competitive advantage. DLS has created the competitive advantage by building a successful program all within the rules and any ethical standards someone wants to throw at you. They are simply reaping the benefits. You DLS bloggers on the other hand are so defensive about any critisim it simply breeds contempt. Not for DLS, but for you. Thats the part you don’t get. Just like I may not get what it means to be part of the brotherhood. No body is looking to bust DLS or uncover some sort of conspiracy. And it isn’t jealously so don’t flatter yourself. You’ve heard of the ugly American. You display the same characteristics. Let me put it to you another way. When you say the “best” kids want to play for DLS, not because they are actively recruited but because they want to be winners, you are implying that if you are a kid that doesn’t want to play for DLS, you are less than the “best”. I know you will find away to deflect this because that’s what you do, but if you climb down off your high horse just for a moment you may understand.
August 10th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Right on Barefoot I could not have said it better myself.
August 10th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
I won’t speak for other DLS bloggers-I only defend when the word “unfair” is used to describe the Green Machines dominance.
Barefoot is in the very small minority of the anti-DLS crowd-you are to be applauded and used as an example to others in my mind.
August 11th, 2012 at 12:45 am
Phenominal job barefoot. You managed to articulate what I was trying to write, so DLS blogger had very few loop holes to nit pick and spew lame ass remarks that everyone can see right through. Well done!!!
Gentleman???!!!! Ha!!!!