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30Q-2-KICKOFF (No. 28) Rolling Stones
By Jimmy Durkin
Tuesday, August 21st, 2012 at 12:33 pm in 30 Questions to Kickoff, East Bay Football.
And finally, it’s time to take a look at the Tri-County Athletic League Stone Division.
Of course, this isn’t a league loaded with top teams. You’ve got Hercules, Kennedy-Richmond, Albany, De Anza, Richmond and John Swett. Not exactly teams used to dominating. But the kind of cool thing is, one of them is going to win a league title this year. And all of them should at least be able to participate in a lot of competitive games.
Many point to Hercules as one of the favorites. The Titans have had athletes, they’ve got a nice campus with decent resources, and they’ve done well recently to handle their business against the type of teams they should beat. They reached the playoffs last year, losing to Campolindo in the first round. I’d expect as long as the league has this current makeup, Hercules should be a competitor.
The other top competitor, I think, will be Kennedy-Richmond. The Eagles feature Takkarist McKinley, a physical specimen with size and strength who is headed to Cal. He’s a TE/DE, but figure to see him all over the field. Kennedy has been building a bit lately and I think they can take the next step and have a shot to win this league. One problem is they’ve already cancelled their first scheduled game of the year, which was to be Friday against Berkeley. Hopefully that’s just a one-time deal.
The rest of the league is probably playing catchup. Fortunately, there shouldn’t be much separation between all of those teams. They’re all looking to build and gain some confidence in their players. Since they should all be in the same boat, expect them to play competitive games.
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August 21st, 2012 at 8:54 pm
The 2012 Football Season predictions By Bluedog2
BVAL…..Freedom 27 Amador 20..Amador is going to be tough this year
Antioch 19 Franklin of Stockton 12…The Panthers have just enough to win this one
Granada 32 heritage 19…Granada lost a close one last year..but not this year
Livermore 33 Liberty 13….The cowboys come out shooting
Pittsburg 38 Clayton valley 19….Pirates begin their march to their best season in a long time
DFAL…..Bishop O’Dowd 33 Las Lomas 28..Don’t be surprised if the Knights win this one
College Park 26 Alhambra 21…..The Bulldogs just may surprise the Falcons
Newark 25 Dougherty Valley 19…..The score may be just the reverse
San Leandro 26 Dublin 21….This game may turnout to be a shootout..
Acalanes 33 Hercules 12….The Don running game is too much for hercules
Marin Catholic 35 Mira Monte 20…. Two passing attacks meet head-on
Campolindo 34 Moureau 19….stephens and crew begin another surprising season
DVAL…..8-23-12….Thursday Night..Concord 40 Kennedy of Fremont 13…..The Thompson express is on the roll..
Friday night 8-24-12
College park 26 Alhambra 21
Pittsburg 38 Clayton Valley 19
Ygnacio Valley 39 Hayward 13…..The Warrior speed is too much for the Farmers
Sat. 8-25-12
San Marin 31 North Gate 13…..The bronco’s are a mystery team…this game will tell the story
EBAL
Freedom 27 Amador 20
California 34 Washington 12….The grizzlies didn’t look too sharp at the Jamboree, but don’t let that fool you..
Monte Vista 36 Castro Valley 13…TheMustangs come out red hot..
Foothill 27 Novato 14…..Foothill shows just how tough they are…
Granada 32 Heritage 19
Livermore 33 Liberty 13
San Ramon 34 Buhach Colony 24….This will be a triple header…Freshman then the JV’s and then the Varsity..this could well be the game of the week along with the Las Lomas Bishop O’Dowd game…there will be a lot of fire works here tonight….
August 21st, 2012 at 9:10 pm
2012 Football Season Predictions
FreeLance
Logan 33 Reed of sparks nev. 14….The Colt Machine goes into action
Tri-County Rock
Valley christian of Dublin 32 Arcata 19….This is a long ride for Arcata…
Salesian 39 DeAnza 12….DeAnza use to have some very good football teams..but they continue to struggle
Pinole 37 Montgomery of Santa Rosa 13…..Montgomery in the past has had a lot of speed…there may still be some starting Friday night..
St. Helena 25 Berean Christian 19…a long night for BC
Sat. 8-25-12
St. Mary’s 20 Justin-Sienna 13……1 P.M.
St.Patricks 19 Tamalpais 6……….2 P.M.
August 22nd, 2012 at 6:30 am
George Manley:
Bluedog2 forgot the WACC12
August 22nd, 2012 at 6:36 am
George Manley:
Bluedog2 forgot the WACC12
Friday Aug. 24th
JFK-Richmond @ Berkeley 7:00pm
Albany @ Mt Eden 3:30pm
Healdsburgh @ Piedmont 7:00pm
Saturday Aug. 25th
American @ Arroyo 1:30pm
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:25 am
Blue Dog 2 predictions are !!!!!! Now if we get 001′s predictions we’re ready to get the 2012 High School Football season underway!!! Man it’s been great to follow these two guys over the years!
August 22nd, 2012 at 10:07 am
From Bluedog2—
Tri-County Stone
Berkeley 38 Kennedy of Richmond 20
Castlemont 40 Richmond 12
Salesian 39 DeAnza 12
Acalanes 33 Hercules 12
Mt. Eden 41 albany 6
South Fork 33 John Swett 6
West Alameda County Foothill
Berkeley 38 Kennedy of Richmond 20
Bishop O’dowd 33 Las Lomas 28 The game of the Week
Monte Vista 36 Castro Valley 13
San Leandro 26 Dublin 21
Ygnacio Valley 39 Hayward 13…..Hayward was once a team you did not want to deal with..
West Alameda Shore Line
El Cerrito 49 San Lorenzo 6…..SL is not match for EC
Mt. Eden 41 Albany 6…..Mt. Eden has a easy time
Healsburg 31 Piedmont 13….The Highlanders face a tough match
Sat. 8-25
Arroyo 27 American of Fremont 14
August 22nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
American will beat Arroyo
August 22nd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
Make a call & stick with it Manley you give scores then make comments that the other team wins. Can’t walk on both sides of the streets champ.
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Bluedog2, thnks for the input. Love ur post on NCP. I’ll keep my eyes on the NCS. Cant wait for your picks when the “Intersectional Games” begin!
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:05 pm
American will not beat Arroyo #DJ
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:12 pm
well its been a while lmao
im picking logan 2 win ncs
on talent alone
it would b really hard 2 lose
with the fastest team in the ncs
August 22nd, 2012 at 4:23 pm
PERKIN….This is called fence riding….both the BO/LL game and the CP/Alhambra game may go either way, although BO and CP should win…Both BO and Alhambra have the speed…its a question of if the line can spring them…But good advice….
August 22nd, 2012 at 5:46 pm
dj
if american beats arroyo jb should step down lol
chalktalk
out of curiousity what makes logan the fastest teaam in the ncs whats ur facts on that?
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:08 pm
SL Piratefootball……I watched Logan at the Pittsburg Jamboree and their running backs could fly…but a fair to good defense may be able to shut them down or slow them down….that is if they can handle the offensive line….those guys are pretty big…the other thing is that all three teams that Logan faced were busy rotating their guys…so this wasn’t to a certain degree you first line defense’..We will know more after the Reed Nev. game…
August 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 pm
Congrats to Coach Puentes at YV for showing some sack. You have restored some confidence in the East Bay coaching fraternity.
August 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 pm
george
i dont disagree that they have some speed on that team just curious what makes them the fastest team in ncs in the eyes of chalktalk
August 22nd, 2012 at 10:14 pm
You mean to say Jb should step down? You mean SLZ’s Jacob Wright should step down. El Cerrito might score 60 on Wrights team. He really should turn to the crowd and apologize for wasting their’ time. He is worse than a jr. Pee wee coach. JB out coaches him every year. SLZ needs a new coach with the new field.
August 22nd, 2012 at 10:17 pm
ex-coach
it was sarcasm i really dont think arroyo will lose to american. as far as slz coach not going to bash he is a kool guy wish him the best of luck i hear they have some good players on that team we shall see, and el cerrito is loaded they bring back almost that whole team from last year
August 23rd, 2012 at 6:37 am
Kool guy? Wright always complaining about what Arroyo does. Always complaining to officials. Always complaining about transfers. Always talkin his program up when he doesn’t win games and has more talent than a lot of schools. SLZ was playing in the NCS championship at the Coliseum before he was hired. They have talent this year. If they don’t win this year he should give it to someone who can.
August 23rd, 2012 at 11:32 am
SL piratefootball i havent seen ever team in the ncs
but from what i have seen logans skill guys are the fastest a couple kids transfer their weight perfectly
which allows them to keep their speed at very difficult angles
August 24th, 2012 at 12:15 am
chalktalk
i dont agree that logan has the most speed in ncs most of their skill guys ran track and it was nothing impressive quite a few teams have more pure speed in my oppinion but they do have some very talented atheletes both back and the qb, the qb won a medal in the triple jump at state
August 24th, 2012 at 4:16 am
Interesting predictions at the top, agree with most of them. Feel strongly, however, that Antioch is going to blow out Franklin, at least by four scores. They are much improved and that Franklin team has been horrible last few years. Also think Heritage will beat Granada, Hayward will beat YV, and Marin Catholic will run away from Miramonte by at least three scores. Definitely agree the Newark-Dougherty game could go either way.
August 24th, 2012 at 7:05 am
slpirate
traCK speed and football speed are very different
its like comparing a dragster to nascar
one can turn while maintaining speed
the other will crash and burn
August 25th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Welp, Arroyo lost to American, not a shocker.
August 25th, 2012 at 11:15 pm
chalktalk
they are diff but track speed can be used on the football field i dont think they are the fastest , i feel they have some very good atheles though
August 26th, 2012 at 12:55 am
Chalktalk, you seem to talk on everything, but U R an expert of nothing.
August 26th, 2012 at 9:17 am
wright ur right but most people that understand football agree with me
track guys on the football field r very awkward
August 27th, 2012 at 12:28 am
chalk
not sure i would agree with that do u have examles and dont say the hurdler that played on the niners back in the day he was trully a track only guy. its tons of kids that run track and play football past and present
August 27th, 2012 at 4:20 pm
SL piratefootball, Since American beat Arroyo, I guess coach JB has to step down, right? Lol, just kiddding. I think that it is a little embarrasing for Arroyo to lose to an inferior team like American, though.
August 28th, 2012 at 1:13 am
tri-city i have to agree but cant say much we shouldnt have lost to dublin they took advantage of our mistakes we gave them the game and they took it 3 turnovers in the 2nd half wont cut it
August 28th, 2012 at 6:37 am
Robert Griffin III was a world-class hurdler. His PR in college would’ve come close to qualifying for the Olympics.
August 28th, 2012 at 7:21 am
slpirate when football scout player ect say ur a track guy it mean u can control ur speed on the football field I.E. renaldo neiamiah 49ers track guy james jett track guy heyward bey track guy they dont know how to drop their weight in order 2 turn period… its completely different from make quik sudden turn like real football players do. When u run track ur trying 2 perfect the perfect stride completely opposite motion in football
August 28th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Lots of track stars are great football players. Jahvid Best for instance. Couple recent ones off the top of my head:
Marcus Peters
Takkarist McKinley
Michael Barton
Kenneth Walker III
August 29th, 2012 at 1:03 am
oh boy
well said i knew chalk was go say renaldo but look at the other guys he named i believe they had more than 1 season n the nfl reggie bush is a track guy he has a few years in the league, tons of guys ran track thats in the league
August 29th, 2012 at 11:08 am
who are u guys on this blog just becuase ur fast doesnt mean ur a track guy the fact the u cant change direction makes u a track guy WOW
HEYWARD BEY CATCHES LIKE A BABY HE USES THE CRAB MOTION 2 TRAP THE BALL AGAINST HIS BODY SO HE’S NOT A WR HE’S A TRACK GUY HE CANT CHANGE DIRECTION FLUENTLY SO HE’S A TRACK GUY dont discredit what u dont undrstand WISEGUY
August 30th, 2012 at 1:43 am
thats so funny when a person can TALK about bout a guy that is doing something u havent he is an nfl player for like 3 or 4 seasons and he is improving and this is coming from somebody that isnt a raider fan and how many nfl season you have players lmao
August 30th, 2012 at 1:44 am
chalk
what would you prefer a 10.80 guy or a 11.8 just curious
August 30th, 2012 at 5:18 am
SL pirate i prefer a football player
NOW LET ME ASK U A QUESTION ARE U ONE OF THOSE GUYS THAT THINK JUST CUZ A GUYS BEEN COACHING 10 PLUS YEARS HE’S A GOOD COACH
August 30th, 2012 at 5:29 am
BY THE WAY IM AN EX PIRATE FAN
AND UR TEAM WILL GO 0-5 MAYBE 3-7 on the season and thats a maybe!!! homie brother guy mister
August 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
easy players! SL Pirate vs. SL Pirate. I sense a lot of hate here.
SL Pirates was always a good program. I remember when DeLaSalle smacked them and Dennis Dixon 3 years in a row for the NCS championship. They should of burned the town down.
August 30th, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Tri City.. American might have an inferior team than arroyo, but they do not have an inferior program or coaching staff.
August 31st, 2012 at 12:07 am
chalk
fyi there are some football players that are really really fast and you really didnt answer the question lol. you can coach a kid at whatever speed they are and can become a solid player but not every kid can be coached to 10.6 or 10.5 its either you got blazing speed or you dont. hey some guys been coaching for 20 years and still dont get it. and you really was only a pirate fan halfway when your son was at SL you was badmouthing coach boom and the staff whether it was on the blogs or in the stands im just saying what is your son up to he was a nice young man
August 31st, 2012 at 5:25 am
SLPIRATEFOOTBALL
WHAT I CAN DO IS TEACH FOOTBALL PLAYER NOT A TRACK GUY– GUY TO KNOCK THE 10.5 GUYS HEAD COMPLETELY OFF make him never want 2 play football again
” PAIN NEUTRALIZES TALENT SIR”
look it up its in the chalktalk book of shut the hell up ur knowledge is imprisoned by ur intelligence,,,
August 31st, 2012 at 8:06 am
Bob Hayes, James Jett, Ron Brown, Darell Green, Willie Gault, Tim Dwight, Stanford Routt,Cliff Branch, Maurice Jones-Drew, Rocket Ismail, Devin Hester,Deion Sanders, Jamal Charles, OJ Simpson… Plenty of productive NFL players ran track in college and some in the olympics.
August 31st, 2012 at 11:04 am
#44 UR POINTS IS and by the way a couple of those dudes arent very fast was not very fast will never b fast do u know fast
August 31st, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Lots of hate on the track/football debate between the Pirates.
Here’s my take on it
1. track guys can play football, however sometimes it’s football guys running track.
2. The list supplied are all football players first then running track, even Bob Hayes, look him up.
3. your 40 time is a lot more important than your track time, however speed kills.
To have track and basetball stars on the team doesn’t hinder anything and sometimes results in positive contribution. Yes, pain can neutrilize speed, but if that speed gets past the corner or breaks the line into the open it can be devestating.
Speed CAN be coached, however speed receivers need to block and decoy also. The majority of speed guys on a football team are football players first.
August 31st, 2012 at 11:22 pm
DJ, I don’t think American is really that bad, and I wasn’t trying to insult them in any way. I only call them inferior because they play in a league which has been dominated by Logan for many years. The MVAL teams don’t seem to stack up well against teams outside their league, so that’s why I was a little surprised to see American win against a decent team like Arroyo. It was stil a good win by American, and I do think that they have a good shot of winning MVAl this year,
September 1st, 2012 at 4:09 pm
sportsfan
good list
yo mama
very very good points and chalk isnt a pirate, lets get that correct his son played there and he was 1 of those dads in the stands that would bad mouth the coaching staff, wish alots of people would not TALK so much and get out there and coach especially since they think they are the best coach in the world
September 1st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
OK, glad to see ya get my points- Lots of experience- the NorCal historian on a lot of football- not always right but almost, played,know coaches, scouted (teams and women), I might be comin’ to yur area soon- lock up the ladies- I’m a studly dudley! I like havin’ fun with the co-bloggers.
September 2nd, 2012 at 12:16 am
lol ur a funny guy
can we add RG3 to the list, what about that black mamba kid at oregon, how bout robert woods usc wr and his teamate on the other side of him mr lee they were state champs in both relays on yeah i believe they have the 4×4 record just a few more guys off the top of the dome
September 2nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
I wasnt saying you were insulting them. Im just saying Arroyo is a shitty program ran by morons. lol. They got way too much credit than they deserved in the previous years.
American however, has a nice program with a decent enough coaching staff.
September 2nd, 2012 at 10:32 am
YO mama #46
u decided to step in the ring huh
how about this quickness is more valuable than speed
agility is more valuable than speed
CONTROLLING UR SPEED IN SMALL UNITS OF SPACE = QUICKNESS
AS 4 coaching lets see if i’d make a good
” if a guy bet u a 100 dollars 2 race. he was gonna race u 2 a spot on the field and u know where it is an he doesnt plus no hold on plus he is going 2 start the race backwards COULD U BEAT HIM yeah ur dam right cuz ur a receiver not a TRACK GUY
By the way dont let ur ego get in the way of ur greatness LMAO
September 2nd, 2012 at 10:36 am
Although the track guy is fast he may not b able 2 control his speed in small units of space
SIR
September 3rd, 2012 at 1:54 am
so robert woods cant control his speed???? very very fast has agility good hands the kid is a stud and he is for sure a track guy had he gone to oregon or u dub or the arizona school he probably still be running track i really would love to see big TALKers coach instead of running their mouth
September 3rd, 2012 at 11:48 pm
DJ, I don’t know the schools in the former HAAL that well, so I just assumed Arroyo was pretty good based on what people said. I’m more of a MVAL guy, and I’ll root for them no matter what. It’s just that in recent years, the MVAL teams except Logan never stacked up well against teams outside their league. I do think the new MVAl this year, without Logan and with Moreau, will make the league more competitive.
ALso agree with American having a decent program. I remember when the were not doing so well. Then they got Nick Amato as a coach, and he helped turn the program around. Bret Casey is the coach there now, and I think he has done a great job with the team. He got a roster size of 32 this year, and he has everyone believing that they can win the Mval.
On a final note DJ, I was wondering who you think might win the MVAL this year. For the first time in ages, I can’t make a valid prediction. I’ll go ahead and say Newark, but I’m interested in hearing everyone’s opinion.