- East Bay Prep Corner
East Bay football poll — 10/15
By Stephanie Hammon
Monday, October 15th, 2012 at 2:46 pm in East Bay Football, Football.
| Team | Record | Points | Last week |
| 1. De La Salle (5) | 7-0 | 75 | 1 |
| 2. James Logan | 6-1 | 70 | 2 |
| 3. Monte Vista | 6-1 | 62 | t3 |
| 4. El Cerrito | 7-0 | 61 | t3 |
| 5. California | 6-1 | 56 | 5 |
| 6. Foothill | 4-3 | 47 | 6 |
| 7. Freedom | 5-2 | 44 | 7 |
| 8. Concord | 6-1 | 36 | 8 |
| 9. Campolindo | 6-1 | 34 | 9 |
| 10. Deer Valley | 6-1 | 33 | 11 |
| 11. Pittsburg | 4-3 | 27 | 10 |
| 12. Bishop O’Dowd | 6-1 | 23 | 12 |
| 13. Northgate | 6-1 | 16 | 13 |
| 14. Clayton Valley | 6-1 | 11 | 14 |
| 15. San Ramon Valley | 3-4 | 3 | NR |
Also receiving votes: McClymonds (3-3, 2 points). The East Bay Football Poll is voted on by the prep sports staff of Bay Area News Group-East Bay.
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October 15th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Come next Friday CV-C will be sitting at #8 as Concord fades away into the sunset. HOWEVER CV-C will need to be focused as a team with a desire and passion to pull the win off. Every player will need to be tuned in to the victory channel, if not Concord will win the mental side of the game and come out on top in the final score.
PS get rid of the Ugly Eagle..just go with the Eagle, as you are so beautiful.
As for the Spartans, horse meat if prepared properly can feed an Army of Spartans or will the Spartans simply send those MV Mustangs to the glue factory.
Time to make a statement at Winton Drive.
SRV the fire has died out, time to reignite.
Campo back-up QB not to shabby, gutsy play as a team.
Logan needs to drop a few can you say facade?
The Bishop seems to be tuning up and could move up a notch.
October 15th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
BIG GAME ALERT!!!
Clayton Valley (5-1, 2-0) at Concord (5-1, 1-1). This game is very hard to predict after the Concord loss to a quality Northgate team two weeks ago. Add in that Clayton Valley has steamrolled through their scheduling following a hard fought season opening loss to Pittsburg.
Match-up to watch: Joe Protheroe vs. Olito Thompson
-Honestly in watching both players this year I came away more impressed with Protheroe. Thompson is a great football player, with great talent, and a great coaching staff. Protheroe is all of those things, yet it appears to me that he has an edge in terms of work ethic. Now Thompson is a WORKHORSE and toted the rock an obscene amount last year, but this year there might have been some complacency. Who knows maybe he will prove me wrong on Friday!
Coach Battle:
Troy Murphy (1st Year with CV) vs. Brian Hamilton (9th Year with CHS)
The two coaches in this game feature explosive offenses with talent at multiple positions. The Minutemen are more balanced (1400 passing, 1500 rushing). Hamilton has molded and morphed his team since their power rushing attack (04-06), to the spread passing game (07-10), to the spread power rushing game (yes, an oxymoron, 2011) to the balanced spread offense we are now seeing in 2012. Likewise, the defense has gone from a 5-3 to a 3-5-3. The defense is the strength of this team.
Meanwhile, the Ugly Eagles have flourished under the leadership of tough, disciplined Tim Murphy. His wing-gun offense (that has also gone through some morphing from his Ygnacio Valley days) has been a revelation in an area that has really yet to see it (700 passing, 3000 rushing). The Eagles have been so impressive on the ground that one wonders if the Minutemen can keep them in check. Protheroe is averaging 17.5 yards per carry past the halfway point in the season. If he keeps it up at this rate (and they go deep in the DII playoffs) he could possibly even break Olito Thompson’s 2011 record. That should motivate the Minutemen!
The difference?
Concord’s defense. It will be interesting to see how they defend this CV offense. Will they be blitzing as much as usual?
Final Score:
Clayton Valley 35 Concord 34
Meanwhile,
October 15th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Strange that SRV actually moved up in the rankings this week, after losing at home to a team most had picked for 4th or 5th in the EBAL this year. The defending NCS runners up now sit at 3-4 and finish out with #6 Foothill, #1 DLS and #3 MV. They’ll have to play their best football of the year just to finish at .500, but could finish in a tie for or even an outright EBAL title if they are able to beat both Foothill and MV.
Unfortunately for Logan, the early win over an ailing SRV squad was their signature win thus far this year. Their second best win is over 2-4 Berkeley, per Calpreps rankings. While they should be completely healthy come playoff time, finishing up with Washington, Irvington and MSJ won’t exactly be testing them.
http://calpreps.com/2012/ratings/North_Coast_all.htm
October 15th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
Friday is Senior Night at De La Salle…Special Thank you to all of the seniors who have given so much to Spartan Football. May the Brotherhood step-up and give these guys a send-off to remember.
GO SPARTANS
October 15th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
Senior Night at Ec… Saturday night football vs rival Pinole valley love some Saturday night football should be rockin
October 15th, 2012 at 5:52 pm
League Rankings:
1. EBAL – Not much debate here. Even if De La Salle isn’t technically considered part of the league, still the best league in the east bay with Cal high, SRV, Foothill, Monte Vista, and Amador Valley.
2 – BVAL – Not the EBAL but a great league. Antioch is having a nice season and beat Northgate (#1 team in the DVAL), Heritage is a good team even though they dont have many wins, and to top it all off, the BVAL has Deer Valley, Freedom, and Pitt who beat Granite Bay.
This is where it gets tricky:
3 – DFAL – never a power house league, but always remains a highly competitive league. Campo is a solid team with great coaching. They went to state last year (only east bay team to do so beside de la salle). And they had an impressive win over las lomas after finding out their star qb Brett Stephens (who i think is the best qb in the bay area – better than goff) is out for the season with a hurt shoulder. I like their back up qb. Las Lomas is always a very competitve team, same with Miramonte who played Marin Catholic very tough. Acalanes is having a great year. Alhambra is always pretty tough and talented. And dublin, before the injury to star rb rudolph, was a great team who played very tough against amador valley.
4 – BVAL – Northgate: a team thats traditionally not very good but getting a lot better. Beat concord and las lomas, but lost to antioch. Concord: a good team but im still not convinced. I called them getting upset to northgate. We’ll see how they do in playoffs in a very mediocre D-3. And CVC seems like they got a tough team this year but they still need to show people. Lets see how they do against concord. Other than those three, College park is not very good this year, and YV and MT D are not good period.
5 – WCC Foothill – This is a descent league. But Encinal is not a very good team this year. Bishop o’dowd is real good team. but right now their qb miriglio is out who is one of the better qbs in the bay area. washington bound cb kevin king is out as well, but wait till playoffs when these two are healthy. Division 3 is loaded just like last year (way better than d-2 just like last season). Berkeley is struggling this year. Castro valley is descent, and hayward and san leandro need to improve. Depending on the year, this league could be ranked higher.
6 – OAL – inconsistent
7 – TCAL Rock – El Cerrito will cruise through until playoffs.
8 – MVAL
9 – WCC Shoreline
10 – TCAL Stone
October 15th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
SRV got a good dose of EBAL reality with their loss to Cal. Their schedule just gets harder and they most likely will end the season on a 4 game losing streak.
With that said, three games cal has had a two score lead at the end of the first half only to watch Pitt, CV, and SRV come storming back. Ofensively Cal is rock solid with four quaility backs. But they score too fast (you can never scored too fast) and send their def to go out and give up long drives. No changes really needed on offense, but the defense is past suspect. I have to say that I am surprised our D took it to foothill. That was a terrible game plan from Sweeney. The game plan is simple..pass..pass..pass. Not only can’t Cal stop the pass, they let receivers run routes untouched, uncovered. I know coach B has been hard on the def, but it is not too late to make major changes to a def that is giving up over 30 pts a game. How about giving some fresh blood a look. You can platoon to see if there are any gamers on the sideline.
Granada will be tough but will problably make a few untimely turn overs and run out of steam. Cal should win this game, but don’t be surprised if we have to score 40 to win.
Good luck cal on your home coming game!
October 15th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Cal’s homecoming game this week is against Livermore. Granada is next week at their place.
I don’t know, SRV’s offense looked pretty darn good to me (at least against the Grizzly defense). They looked a lot better against Cal than Foothill did, so I would give them a good chance of beating Foothill. Although that was a bad game for Foothill, and they actually played DLS closer than they did Cal on that night.
SRV and MV looked about equal to me (a lot of offense and not much D, just like Cal), but SRV has yet to put it all together, and MV has nice wins against both Pitt and Cal. MV gets to face SRV at home in week 10, but you just never know what is going to happen in that rivalry game.
October 15th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Any teams going to be winless at the end of the year? Any coaches on the hot seat?
October 15th, 2012 at 7:45 pm
10-15-12
This week we have three games of the week in which none of the teams can afford a loss…Deer Valley hosting Pittsburg….Concord at Clayton Valley and Foothill vs San Ramon Valley…If Deer Valley or Clayton Valley should loose the league champs could wind up in a tie….These three games will be total war..
Free Lance
James Logan 45 Washington 20…The Colts march on but the Huskies could be a pest…
DLS 39 Monte Vista 24….Amador found ways to score on the spartans…maybe the Mustangs will find the way also…
BVAL
Heritage 27 Liberty 21….A cross town battle could get out of hand..
Freedom 44 Antioch 25….Loosing to Heritage last week in OT comes as a blow to the Panthers…They will give Freedom trouble…but not enough..
Deer Valley 39 Pittsburg 27….The Pirate defense could not stop Freedom and this game wil be a repeat performance which means the Pitt offense has to step up, but DV defense should hold the Pirate offense in check..
DFAL
Miramonte 46 Dougherty Valley 21..every body is beating up on DV..so far the school has not been able to get a winning program together….
Alhambra 34 Campolindo 27…..Another upset…the Bulldogs have found their Mojo…
Acalanes 28 Dublin 20…The Don’s made short work of DV, but these game will not be easy…The Gaels have had a week to get their act together…
DVAL
Clayton Valley 35 Concord 20….The Murphy gang knows how to score..plus they have the defense to back them up…
NorthGate 35 College Park 14…..The Bronco’s ride on..
Ygnacio Valley 26 Mt. Diablo 19…..the battle for the basement…
EBAL
Foothill 31 San Ramon Valley 28…Neither tames wants to loose…so you can bet this will be a hard fought game..
DLS 39 Monte Vista 24
California 47 Livermore 20….The Grizzlies run into a stubborn Cowboy team..but go on to win….
Amador Valley 21 Granada 19…..Granada is over do for a win..but AV should hang in there and get the job done…
Mission Valley
Thursdasy 10-18
Moreau Catholic 26 Irvington 20….the score could be the other way around…
Friday 10-19
American-Fremont 26 Newark 19
Kennedy-Fremont 32 MissionSan Jose 12
Sat. 10-20
Logan 45 Washington 20
West Alameda—Shoreline
Tennyson 31 Piedmont 19
Alameda 25 Mt. Eden 19
Sat. 10-20
Arroyo 26 San Lorenzo 12
West Alameda–Foothill
Berkeley 26 San Leandro 20
Castro Valley 33 Encinal 20….The Jets game the Yellowjackets all they could handle..but this game is different
Bishop O’Dowd 37 Hayward 19…The Farmewrs have been improving…but not enough for this game…
TriCounty–Stone
Albany 19 Richmond 12….The winner stays out of the basementr
Hercules 33 DeAnza 12
Kennedy-Richmond 33 John Swett 19
Tri-County—Rock
St. Mary’s-Albany 40 St Patrick/St Vincet 13
El Cerrito 49 Pinole 13
Valley Christian-Dublin 38 Berean Christian-Walnut Creek 19
October 16th, 2012 at 7:15 am
@prep fan
Yeah that always made me scratch my head at why Logan was ranked so high at times. I don’t think we deserve it. But when comparing common opponents Logan has done better jobs than most of the top D1 teams as it allows to compare us to monte vista, Pitt, freedom and deer valley. Logan schedule turned out to be weak and the whole ‘SRV was ailing” sort of pisses me off because w 3 defensive TDs, I’m pretty sure out offense could have scored the same amount of points on their defense. Gotta give credit for Logan trying to assemble an actual schedule though, especially with against the NCS finalists from last year. Having one battle tested game with del oro is enough and Logan will have fresher legs in the playoffs than the rest.
October 16th, 2012 at 10:08 am
WACC Play Week 3
Foothill Division: overall, league (calpreps)
Friday
San Leandro 0-7,0-2 (2.4)
@Berkeley 2-4,2-0 (15.3) 7pm
in years past this could be considered game of the week. this year its game of the weak.
CalPreps: Berkeley 20-14
Friday
Encinal 3-4, 0-2 (9.6)
@Castro Valley 3-4, 1-1 (23.4) 7pm
trojans are looking to bounce back after last weeks choke job @Odowd.
CalPreps: Castro Valley 34-17
Friday
Bishop O’Dowd 6-1, 2-0 (30.5)
vs Hayward 3-4, 1-1 (4.1) @sunset 7pm
getting back King should be enough for dragons to breeze through league but without Miroglio they should have an early exit in NCS.
CalPreps: Odowd 35-7
Shoreline Division
Friday
Piedmont 5-2, 1-1 (-7.2)
@Tennyson 6-1, 2-0 (8.2) 3:45
lancers defense will be to much for pass happy highlanders.
CalPreps: 28-7
Friday
Mt. Eden 4-2, 1-1 (-12.7)
vs Alameda 2-5, 0-2 (-8.1) @Thompson Field 7pm
is this the week hornets turn it around of is it the week the monarchs become a legit shoreline contender.
CalPreps: Alameda 28-21
Saturday
San Lorenzo 2-5, 1-1 (-13.9)
Arroyo 3-4, 1-1 (3.9) 1:30
dons defense and physical monarchs (5 kids needed to be helped off the field at mt eden last week) are gonna be to much for the rebels.
CalPreps: Arroyo 31-8
October 16th, 2012 at 10:10 am
To Mongo > RIP <
October 16th, 2012 at 10:50 am
What’s the status on SLZ and alameda qb’s both got banged up last week. Alameda reportably had to bring up the JV qb .
October 16th, 2012 at 10:55 am
League Rankings:
1. EBAL – Not much debate here. Even if De La Salle isn’t technically considered part of the league, still the best league in the east bay with Cal high, SRV, Foothill, Monte Vista, and Amador Valley.
2 – BVAL – Not the EBAL but a great league. Antioch is having a nice season and beat Northgate (#1 team in the DVAL), Heritage is a good team even though they dont have many wins, and to top it all off, the BVAL has Deer Valley, Freedom, and Pitt who beat Granite Bay.
This is where it gets tricky:
3 – DFAL – never a power house league, but always remains a highly competitive league. Campo is a solid team with great coaching. They went to state last year (only east bay team to do so beside de la salle). And they had an impressive win over las lomas with a back up qb after finding out their star qb Brett Stephens (who i think is the best qb in the bay area – better than goff) is out for the season with a hurt shoulder. Las Lomas is always a very competitve team, same with Miramonte who played Marin Catholic very tough. Acalanes is having a great year. Alhambra is always pretty tough and talented. And dublin, before the injury to star rb rudolph, was a great team who played very tough against amador valley.
4 – BVAL – Good league but not very deep. Northgate: a team thats traditionally not very good but getting a lot better. Beat concord and las lomas, but lost to antioch. Concord: a good team but im still not convinced. I called them getting upset to northgate. We’ll see how they do in playoffs in a very mediocre D-3. And CVC seems like they got a tough team this year but they still need to show people. Lets see how they do against concord. Other than those three, College park is not very good this year, and YV and MT D are not good period.
5 – WCC Foothill – This is a descent league. But Encinal is not a very good team this year. Bishop o’dowd is real good team. but right now their qb miriglio is out who is one of the better qbs in the bay area. washington bound cb kevin king is out as well, but wait till playoffs when these two are healthy. Division 3 is loaded just like last year (way better than d-2 just like last season). Berkeley is struggling this year. Castro valley is descent, and hayward and san leandro need to improve. Depending on the year, this league could be ranked higher.
6 – OAL – inconsistent
7 – TCAL Rock – El Cerrito will cruise through until playoffs.
8 – MVAL
9 – WCC Shoreline
10 – TCAL Stone
October 16th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Is O’dowd’s qb out for the season? what type of injury does he have?
October 16th, 2012 at 11:11 am
i heard it was his wallet
October 16th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Miroglio has some sort of bone injury which is healing, and BOD expects him back in the next few weeks. They also had a few other kids banged up last week – don’t know their status.
D3 will be interesting as usual. I am starting to think Cardinal Newman might be a notch better than the rest. I would throw El Cerrito, Campo, and (a healthy) BOD in a hat, with Marin Catholic a small notch better than them due to their depth/size/coaching.
October 16th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
If Odowd can’t win the WCC then they don’t deserve anything. That league is super weak, SL 0-7, Hayward not much better, BHS always at the bottom, CV spanked by Odowd and 2nd string qb and Encinal way way down and no offense. This league would be eaten alive in the dval and ebal.
October 16th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Alameda will loose to Mt. Eden. 0-8 after that.
October 16th, 2012 at 2:34 pm
BigDog -
Eaten alive in the EBAL? Agreed.
Eaten alive in the DVAL? What?
If you had said, BVAL, agreed. DFAL? Maybe. DVAL?? No way. Hayward will finish bottom 2 of the WCC Foothill and they beat CP and YV. And don’t start on Mt. Diablo.
Top to bottom the WCC is a stronger league. Maybe no top end teams like Northgate/Clayton/Concord, but more consistency.
October 16th, 2012 at 3:01 pm
#1 MV – Clearly the team with the most consistency. They are well coached and continue to execute sound game plans each week. Their blemish to Foothill was a strange game with the Foothill defense causing problems for MV … they will not beat DLS but will win out and take EBAL Championship.
#2 Cal – Karris Johnson has established himself as the best RB in the East Bay … his performance last week against SRV speaks for itself. The Cal offense will not work in the play-offs once they encounter a physical defense that can shut off their run-oriented offense. EBAL Teams have been shredding their secondary … but Karris grinds the tough yards this year and keeps the ball away from opposing O.
#3 Foothill – A team that was picked to win the first EBAL title (-DLS … relax DLS Board Police) but has struggled with line of scrimmage play. Both O-Line and D-Line play is inconsistent and at times completely dominated by their opponent (freedom, cal, dls). Sophomore QB, Kyle Kearns has an amazing presence and will be a top prospect in the coming years. Hudson is coming into form as a D1 receiver … however running game is very inconsistent due to O-Line not being physical enough … yards on the ground are only achieved by Gates brute force. Game this week vs. SRV will decide if Foothill gets to share title.
SRV – Tough pre-season led to soul-searching across the SRV landscape … and team was able to restore confidence with a nice light load of Livermore, Amador, and Granada back to back. Cal put them back into reality with a D that is sub-par. De La Pena is an under-rated talent … his ability will be sought after in the college ranks. Birse has moments but will likely be only looked at by D2 … or Ivy League. Should be a good match-up vs. Foothill this Friday.
Amador – Nothing much to report with this squad … they don’t seem to know how to put a game away with the top half of the league. Nice early win over Freedom but would be blown out if played again today. They’ll win Livermore and Granada … tough year for a solid QB, Moreno.
Granada – Lots of heart on the team … one-dimensional running offense … can’t throw and thus keep games close with clock never stopping. Defense plays hard and team seems discipline … but need more offense to be a top half EBAL team.
Livermore – tough to compete in EBAL … should consider moving Castro Valley in EBAL and moving Livermore to another league. DFAL?
DLS – Hope y’all appreciate your undefeated status playing the same crappy public schools you blow out every year by and average of 35 points … maybe one the private schools down in SoCal will give you a game in the State Championship.
October 16th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
odowd has only lost to a very good san jose valley christian team .. and that game they gave up a huge first quarter lead but faught back.. agreed if QB doesnt make it back they cant battle with the well coached run oriented teams… they played a tuff non league schedule came out of it 3-1 .. they cant help that their “super division” sucks
October 16th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
@ #22 Ghost…..good analysis/post….and then bam, like a sbd in a closed elevator, Captain Ahab pops up at the end with his obsessing about his Green & Silver whale and …”thar he blows” again.
Question anyway….Is Cal’s Karris Johnson, senior Or junior?
October 16th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
EB-sorry, meant bval.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
I’m off from practice today with too many errands and work but the EBAL is heating up and it’s like SEC of bay area hs football.
1. Monte Vista: Coach Bergman is doing one of his best jobs ever leading the Mustangs and they are a couple of plays away from being undefeated, instead of likely finishing 8-2 after losing to De La Salle this week. The Zamora’s are surpassing expectations. How many Zamora’s can one team have? Merlin was a complete stud vs. Cal last week taking over the game. Even though the MV defense gave up a ton of yards and some points, a lot of it was scrap on purpose giving up yardage when Cal was fighting back. I like their chances at De La Salle and they have a legitimate chance of upsetting Spartans. In the end it will be Sparta by a field goal over the Mustangs. This Mustangs unit will get the #2 seed in the NCS playoffs and meet De La Salle again in the championship game if they can hang with Freedom and Deer Valley’s speed.
2. California: The Grizzlies defense is not ready to take the jump for the NCS title but their chances are good for next year. Their DB’s were roughly exposed vs. MV and they don’t have to worry about a Livermore offense that is anemic throwing the ball. Coach Bellici needs some help if Cal is to win the EBAL crown this year and he might get it in week 10 when MV plays SRV, but that’s a stretch because SRV is not fundamentally sound too many mistakes on both sides of the ball. The Grizzlies are built for NCS 3rd and 4th round playoff weather wet and cold, so their ability to run the ball and defense the run better than the pass should get them far into the playoffs. Cal needs to blitz more on defense and take a lot more chances up front to help their DB’s, or they will exit the NCS tournament earlier than expected.
3. Foothill: Falcons are inconsistent but talented and will be better next year. The passing game and ground attack are overall terrible against good teams with too many interceptions thrown and not enough yards gained on the ground, but they make enough plays to beat average or bad teams. Coach Sweeney will have his team up for the game vs. SRV and Falcons should handle the mistake ridden SRV passing game that gives away defensive touchdowns and big plays weekly. Foothill dodged a bullet at Granada a game the Matadors could have won. Falcons will fly to victory but their 5-3 record after Friday night is deceiving and the only quality win is a lucky grab vs. MV. They will end the year at 7-3 and get a good slot in the playoffs but will not go beyond the 2nd round once they face DV or Freedom on the road.
4. San Ramon Valley: Coach Kessler deserves kudos for making a whole sale change of the offense after starting 0-3 this year. Now he protects QB Birse much better in a pro style offense much of the time instead of asking the talented but surprisingly limited QB to carry the team from the shotgun. The only way SRV can salvage their disappointing season is to upset the Falcons Friday night but to do that Birse needs to have the best game of his career against a stingy Foothill D. If SRV runs the ball 45 times they win the game Friday night. But if Birse is tossing the football more than 25 times against Falcons they will lose. Next week SRV takes on DLS in the Wolves last home game and that is the game to have Birse throw 50 times because the Spartans DB’s are very suspect and can be hurt in the air. SRV can upset Foothill and MV but it’s not likely. At this point 5-5 would be great but 4-6 is looking very likely.
5. Amador: This team has fallen apart from the inside out. QB Moreno has proven himself to be a good quarterback, but that is just it, a good QB. They have lost a handful of RB’s during the season and that only puts more pressure on Moreno to throw the ball. Coach Sira knows this better than anyone and he should throw caution out the window and let Moreno throw 50 times per game for the rest of the year because their running game is now bad. Actually, the Dons defense is above average and tougher than expected, but they get worn down after the Dons offense struggles each week to establish an identity. Shocking but true, they will finish 4-6.
6. Granada: Coach Silva, a good coach but not great proved why on Friday night against Foothill. The Matadors have a young erratic QB and a trio of excellent Running Backs, so instead of rushing the ball all night long, Silva decides to throw a lot. Granada’s defense is average and to help an average defense a great coach does everything possible to keep his D off the field by running the ball on offense. Granada could have earned the win vs. Foothill by doing just that but Silva kept his reputation as a good coach alive and well by doing the opposite.
7. Livermore: The Cowboys are a division 2 team playing EBAL big boy football and it shows. They can’t stop anybody when it counts on D, and they cannot throw the football well enough to win. Coach Haubner is trying to will this team to victory each week but that old saying doesn’t work in EBAL weekly. Even though Haubner thought this was the year to make the playoffs and get over the hump it’s sad to realize they will finish 3-7 or 2-8 again.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
D-3 sidebar, El Cerrito is going to the state bowl game to rep CIF of norcal.
They will beat Cardinal Newman by 500 points in the playoffs.
EC is the real deal
October 16th, 2012 at 4:12 pm
My surprise team of the year is Mt. Eden, it is nice to see that program rebound from a nearly self imposed death penalty a few years ago.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
@24 Concrete – Karris Johnson is a senior. I know he was being recruited by several schools but thought I heard he had committed to Utah St. Last season, it seemed like he was just very fast and made good cuts. This year, he is a bruising back that has shown he can run through people too. He absolutely crushed a couple of SRV defenders last week. Despite not being on the Times’ preseason watch list this year, he is a legitimate POY candidate.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
KJ at CHS is the best back in the league and offensive player of the year in EBAL.
I want to see Clayton Valley’s offense up close and personal, I have heard nothing but great things from my friends up there in those neck of the woods.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
Concrete17 … Karris is a senior and holding offers from Utah State, Hawaii, and Cal Poly. I heard rumors that UCLA was sniffing around. I think Cal ought to come in and offer him. Recruiting is an imperfect science and their are a lot of kids like Karris that get overlooked.
Karris has just now come into form … throughout his junior year he couldn’t break a tackle … totally different story this year.
Oh, and I had to get one more quick jab in on the Contra Costa Spartans of Concord.
Gridlock,
Once again your opinions are not based on sound logic but rather emotional rants. It’s painful reading how off base you are on each squad. Especially around your assessment of Foothill every week, please take off your Amador Valley Cheerleading Outfit and get real!
October 16th, 2012 at 4:34 pm
Good update about KJ he deserves offers galore, a special talent.
I like reading the various opinions on here, yours included Mr. Ghost, but I don’t spend time on personal attacks, so drop it.
I root for the Livermore teams, both of them in the EBAL, as my roots come from the Livermore Wine Country of long ago, after that it’s mostly moot and one man’s opinion based on facts and some basic guessing.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Hey Mr. Ghost, I moved Foothill up ranks after their win, when earlier in the season I had Amador picked to finish above Foothill.
So your accusations are baseless.
October 16th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Clayton is for real. RB Prothoroe is for real. Saw 1st hand last week. and CP had plus 300 yds..I saw a post that said Prothoroe would give Olito a run this year, and they were right. Patient runner. Doesnt dance, North South .. does anyone know if he holds any offers. Looks big and fast enough for a decent smaller school , IE the same as Cal High kid is gettin ..
October 16th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
@ Gridlock i think the Ec pick is right on this team has talent galore and look unstopable but Marin catholic I think will be a challenge i do believe Ec would be too much for CN.Ec real weakness is depth in that they have only 30 players on their roster but they are well conditioned,fast,very physical and hard hitting team they had at least 3 teams who threatened to forfeit games if they didnt remove their starters after halftime but the games will be settled on the field
October 16th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Cal’s defensive woes are well known as every team has exploited their weakness, with the exception of Foothill. Cal is big and strong up front, but having your d-line chasing plays down field wears them out. Thus the third qtr swoon. By then, the d-line tires and gets pushed around. I have preached this for weeks, platoon on def to keep our boys legs fresh. The offense scores too fast, keeping the def on the field. This team has a lot of depth at the line, coach B reward those scout team players with a few game time minutes. You’re sticking with the same players through the whole game may be getting you wins, but you are not going to win every shoot out (remember MV and trading 3s for 7s). Changes are coming, but if Livermore is a weak passing team, we could easily get fooled into thinking we improved.
What is the story on Granada? Can they pass?
October 16th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
The DFAL is up for grabs this Friday night as I think Alhambra will upset Campo. Alhambra is tough and have a great running back in #28. I like it coming down to Las Lomas, Campo and Alhambra. With no #1 for Dublin they have no shot. Miramonte and Acalanes are nice stories but not enough for a league title.
What is the story with Dougherty Valley? I thought they had athletic kids in that area? Does not seem they can get a football culture there.
October 16th, 2012 at 8:16 pm
mv will beat dls this year just watch
October 16th, 2012 at 8:48 pm
I actually have a feeling it might happen as well. Banking on the fact that DLS will get up for the game for a change because it’s MV but man I haven’t been this unconfident in a DLS team to eventually turn it around as I am on this one.
October 16th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Same proclamation different year. MV ain’t gonna be physical enough to beat the Green Machine. That’s the Mustangs biggest problem when they match up with DLS. Nothing is any different this year.
October 16th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Gridlock, look at your surprise team Mt. Eden and everyone can tell that you’re using meth.
Mt.Eden beat a winless Richmond 17-8, a winless Albany 17-7, 2-5 Mt.Diablo and 1-6 San Lorenzo. They lost to Oakland high. Who is in the weakest league known to high school football and they’re going to get stomped on by Alameda this week. Mark my words. Alameda 33 Mt.Eden 7.
October 16th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
Spartan 4 Ever,
The math and scheduling makes is hard for anyone but Campo to win DFAL this year. While alot of things are mathmatically possible, one thing is clear: Campo will most likely have a piece of the title.
Campo is 3-0 with DV left on their schedule. With a win over DV, they are at worst 4-2. Everyone has at least two losses except Campo and Alhambra with one loss. It is possible that Alhambra could run the table and end the season with one loss. But first, for Alhambra to win leage outright, Campo would have to loose to Alhambra AND Dublin. Also remember, Alhambra has already had their bye week and their DV victory lap, so now comes “the business”: Dublin (which they won, but a Dublin lacking their star player), Campo, Acalanes and Miramonte all in a row. I can’t see them winning those four in a row. If they drop one of their three remaining games the best they or anyone else can hope for is a two-way or three-way tie.
I would also mention that this is the same Alhambra team that got beat pretty bad by Las Lomas which just got handled (and looked pretty listless) against Stephens-less Campo. I just don’t see a compelling case for a Alhambra upset. Yea, they’ve got an excellent running back, but not enough pieces around him to make his the kind of threat he should be.
Frankly, the whole thing is up for grabs except that Campo will win DFAL and finish no worse than 5-1 and DV will finish 0-6. Everything in between is still in flux. My personal opinion is that Alhambra is a good bet to go 4-2, but I can’t see them beating Miramonte on the road after Dublin, Campo and Acalanes in consecutive weeks.
Big games remaining:
Week 8 – Campo/Alhambra
Week 9 – Mira/LL, Alhambra/Acalanes
Week 10 – Mira/Alhambra
October 16th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
Miraman….Alhambra’s only draw back is their bad habit of committing so many pentalities when they are on the move….along with Poyadue they have Josh Evans..a QB that has been sharing work with costa…This kid is sneaky, quick and can throw…they have a recieving corp of Little with real good hands and two speedsters in Maalec Thomas and Ciozanne Foster. The other problem is the play calling…always poor timing…food for thought….
October 17th, 2012 at 3:06 am
Mt. Eden abused SLZ who beat Piedmont who out lasted Alameda. And that was with a healthy QB under center of alameda.
October 17th, 2012 at 4:46 am
TheSchoolmarm’s California Top 30 Cal Bowl Divisions 1&2 Week 7
All games are league games except *.
1.(3) Narbonne (LACS D1, Marine) 7-0. Beat Banning 54-7 @ Banning. Next: San Pedro 5-2.
2.(2) De La Salle (NCS D1, Freelance) 7-0. Beat Amador Valley* 52-24 @ Amador. Next: Monte Vista*(Danville) 6-1.
3.(5) Mater Dei(Santa Ana) (SS D1, Trinity) 6-1. Beat #1 Santa Margarita 24-7@ Saddleback College. Next: #7 St. John Bosco 7-0.
4.(4) Vista Murrieta (SS D2, Southwestern) 7-0.
Beat Great Oak 65-14. Next: @ #29 Murrieta Valley 7-0.
5.(7) Mission Viejo (SS D1, South Coast) 7-0. Beat San Clemente 45-7 @ San Clemente. Next: @ #13 Tesoro 6-1.
6.(1) Santa Margarita (SS D1, Trinity) 6-1. Lost to #5 Mater Dei 7-24. Next: #7 St. John Bosco 7-0.
7.(6) St. John Bosco (SS D1, Trinity) 7-0. Beat J.Serra 44-41 OT. Next: #3 Mater Dei 6-1 @ Santa Ana Stadium.
8.(11) El Toro (SS D1, South Coast) 7-0. Beat #9 Tesoro 41-31. Next: @ Trabuco Hills 4-3.
9.(10) St. Bonaventure (SS D1, Marmonte East) 6-1. Bye. Next: @ Newbury Park 4-3.
10.(12) Upland (SS D2, Baseline) 7-0. Beat Glendora 47-26. Next: @ Los Osos 4-3.
11.(13) Centennial(Corona) (SS D2, Big 8) 6-1. Beat Norco 38-7 @ Norco. Next: M.L.King(Riverside) 4-3.
12.(14) Alemany (SS D1, Serra) 7-1. Beat #15 Bishop Amat 56-35. Next: Bye.
13.(9) Tesoro (SS D1, South Coast) 6-1. Lost to #11 Tesoro 31-41. Next: #5 Mission Viejo 7-0.
14.(16) Chaparral (SS D2, Southwestern) 6-1. Beat Temecula Valley 42-6. Next: @ Great Oak 3-4.
15.(17) Edison(Huntington Beach) (SS D6, Sunset) 6-1.
Beat Los Alamitos 24-14 @ Veterans Stadium (Los Al home field). Next: Marina 3-4.
16.(19) Clovis North (CS D1, Tri River) 7-0. Beat Clovis East 40-0 @ Clovis East. Next: Fresno Central 6-1.
17.(20) Crenshaw (LACS D1, Coliseum) 6-1. Beat Allen Locke 42-8 @ Locke. Next: @ Dorsey 4-3.
18.(21) Oaks Christian (SS D1, Marmonte West) 6-1. Bye. Next: @ Calabasas 1-6.
19.(22) Chaminade (SS D4, Mission) 6-1. Beat St. Paul 63-13 @ St. Paul. Next: @ Harvard-Westlake 6-1.
20.(8) Crespi (SS D1, Serra) 7-1. Lost to Notre Dame 34-40 OT @ Notre Dame. Next: @ #22 Bishop Amat
5-1-1.
21.(23) Elk Grove (SJS D2, Delta Valley) 7-0. Beat Grant Union 24-0 @ Grant. Next: Franklin(Elk Grove) 7-0.
22.(15) Bishop Amat (SS D1, Serra) Lost to #14 Alemany 35-56 @ Alemany. Next: #20 Crespi 7-1.
23.(24) Folsom (SJS D2, Delta River) 7-0. Beat Jesuit 56-35 @ Jesuit 10/13. Next: Sheldon 3-4.
24.(25) Bakersfield (CS D1, Southwest Yosemite) 6-1. Beat Independence 31-28. Next: Frontier 4-3.
25.(26) Oceanside (SDS D2, Avacado West) 6-1. Beat Vista 44-0. Next: Ramona* 4-3.
26.(27) Lompoc (SS D4, Los Padres) 7-0. Beat Santa Maria 49-0 @ Santa Maria. Next: Santa Inez 1-6.
27.(28) Hart (SS D2, Foothill) 6-1. Beat Golden Valley 41-14 @ College of the Canyons. Next: Valencia 4-3.
28.(NR) Bellarmine (CCS, West Catholic) 5-1. Beat Serra(San Mateo) 35-34 )T @ Serra 10/13. Next: St. Francis 3-3.
29.(29) Murrieta Valley (SS D2, Southwestern) 7-0. Beat Murrieta Mesa 33-0. Next: #4 Vista Murrieta 7-0.
30.(30) Tustin (SS D6, Empire) 8-0. Beat Cypress 63-21 @ Western High School. Next: Bye.
The following are Teams of Note (TON); teams that could easily break into the Top 30.
Charter Oak 6-1, Chino Hills 4-2-1, Citrus Hill 7-0, Clovis 6-1, Franklin(Elk Grove) 7-0, Harvard-Westlake 6-1, Helix 5-1, J.Serra 5-2, La Mirada 7-1, Long Beach Poly 4-3, Loyola 6-1, Luther Burbank 7-0, Notre Dame (Sherman Oaks) 5-3, Orange Lutheran 6-1, Rancho Cucamonga 5-2, Redlands 6-1, Serra(Gardena) 5-2, Serra(San Mateo) 5-1, Serrano 7-0, Westlake 5-3
October 17th, 2012 at 5:42 am
Miraman.. good information on this league. I guess I just thought DV and Dublin would be better this year. They both are DI and DII schools pouring in with athletes due to new housing. It seems to me they should successful in that league.. not sure what is going on.
October 17th, 2012 at 5:57 am
Island Chef… When was the last time a Alameda School beat a Oakland school? How come Encinal want schedules school like Mack? How do you have a 3-4 record following a lost and move up in the ranking? LOL This thing is a joke!!! I seen McClymonds(they are a few plays away from being undefeated) and they are a YOUNG talented team. I would put my money on the Warriors against any of these teams!!! Thats why we play the game… These rankings are a joke!!!
October 17th, 2012 at 7:54 am
#4…I’m a little late for the party, but I’ve always wondered if they announce the player’s home towns on senior night at DLS?
October 17th, 2012 at 8:34 am
1. DLS
2. Monte Vista- Didn’t realize how good they were
3. Logan- Talented but I’m starting not to believe the hype
4. EC- Talented athlete everywhere. Win D-3 or BUST!
5. CAL- Always tough but teams have been able to get with them.
6. Deer Valley- Underrated
7. Foothill- Solid team with some good players.
8. Freedom- The Darnel Daniels show!
9. Northgate- Sneaky good.
10. Concord- Big test this week
11. Campo- Will slide with the loss of Stephans
12. Pitt- Always a disappointment
13. Clayton Valley- Big test this week. Love Murphy style
14. BOD- No good without the QB
15. Mack- Rspectable but they think they’e better than what they are.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:08 am
MANDOWN….What a breakdown..you couldn’t ask for any more..good stuff…
October 17th, 2012 at 9:18 am
Spartan-4-ever…..One of the big problems of Dublin and DV is all the Condo’s that have sprunk up in the area which means mostly single parent families…While there are many new single family homes coming up this could very well be the problem…It looks like DV will take a long time in becoming a challenger…Dublin has come along way…but look how long it took….
October 17th, 2012 at 10:34 am
Only BOD game I have seen was last week vs. CV and if it was any indication of how they usually perform, they won’t go far. Talented but, WAY too many penalties, inc personal fouls. Can’t continue to shoot yourself in the foot and expect to beat good teams.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Good point on the housing information. I heard both DV and Dublin will be in the new EBAL in a few years.
Anyobdy got information on that?
October 17th, 2012 at 11:39 am
El Cerrito beating Cardinal Newman by 500 points? I understand its hyperbole, but really? I’d take CN as a two score favorite over El Cerrito if they met tomorrow. I’d take Marin Catholic over EC by 10 or so. I seem to remember a Cardinal Newman team that lacked the athletic talent of the current one being picked to lose to O’Dowd, Miramonte, and Encinal, each with “athletes galore” before embarrassing the first two and winning a hard-fought game over the third by four scores. I’d honestly watch your words a little bit when boldly predicting an inevitable victory over CN or MC. The road to the D3 trophy runs up 101. Don’t forget that when the Cardinals or the Wildcats show up, because good coaching, athletes, and a legacy to defend are nothing to sneeze at.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Spartan 4 ever,
I think Bluedog2 is right, but I also think the thing that hurts DV in football is the ethnic mix of people buying houses in the area. When I’ve gone to DV, I’ve been struck by the number of asian and indian kids. You are going to see a lower participation in football for these groups especially if they are new to the country. Probably in 5-10 years this becomes less of a factor as younger kids take to American sports.
Dublin has always been a mystery. D2 school, been around a pretty good while, large football program, but pretty continuous under achievers in football.
Matt,
That’s always been the rap on O’Dowd: lack of discipline. Well, that and perhaps a lack of top-notch coaching. They certainly get the best atheletes.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Patrick, Campolindo has seen both El Cerrito and Cardinal Newman twice in the last few years, going 1-1 to both. It is my opinion El Cerrito would beat both CN & MC this year, they are that good. Potentially six D1 athletes on the team at the skill and linebacker positions is probably more than either CN or MC can handle.
Campo held EC to two touchdowns in a great game decided by two points and a missed Campo field goal. However, EC threw 4 first half interceptions which kept the game close. I believe the QB & coaching staff learned a great deal from that game that will only serve them well as they move into the playoffs.
Unlike past seasons when CN played a tough preseason, CN has no signature wins this season and won’t play a tough opponent until Rancho Cotate a week from now. Marin Catholic has played two tough opponents in SI and Vacaville and came away with victories. Both CN & MC will have huge chips on their shoulders this postseason with both losing to Campo last year. However, I just think this is El Cerrito’s year.
It’s probably too much to ask for Campolindo to make a deep run in the playoffs this season with Stephens not at the helm. However, I do believe they get the #4 seed over both Analy & BOD, if they win out. I can’t predict a #1 seed yet since EC, MC & CN can all make a good argument for it at this point. But if Campo does make it to the semi-finals, playing the #1 seed on the road, it would be a great game against any of the top 3.
October 17th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
CN a very storied program, however they have not played anyone this year so far. In retro, EC has played Campo but not anyone else significant so far.
So there you have it- coaching and program vs. d-1 atheletes. MC will match better to EC than CN. That will also be a excellent game with Geoff as QB.
October 17th, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Regarding El Cerrito, I’m with Patrick on this. I think either MC or CN beat El Cerrito. Remember, both CN and MC have better running games than Campo and likely better lines (although Campos line is underrated). I think the key is keeping the ball on the ground but using the passing game to keep El Cerrito honest. In running the ball, obviously you keep the offense off the field, but you also wear out the El Cerrito line and neutralize the athleticism of the defensive backs. I think Scooby Wright has a huge game for CN and it may not even be that close. MC will win if they run Akili Terry and use the passing game to mix things up. If they try to prove they have a great QB by forcing the pass, they’ll get beat!
October 17th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
r there going 2 b any head coaching vacancy
who needs 2 step aside this year
October 17th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Some great write ups..who is competing for Ben’s old job?
October 17th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
chalktalk- you mean SL and Alameda?
October 17th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
im just asking a question lmao
October 17th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
They might both be replaced along with BHS coach.
I personally don’t think any coach is going to get these 3 teams out of a tailspin anytime soon.
October 17th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Steph seems to have the Winton gig… Stewie, renew your subscription so we can keep her and the shrinking BANG crew employed. All kidding aside:
Housing recession starts in DoVal/ E Dub are obviously down. 2005-10 home prices were met by the highly compensated house hunter, many of whom are not immigrants as Mira suggests, just highly motivated/educated humans whose academic largesse has put them in high paying jobs. Their kids are given the same track, and rough guessing I know of only one EBAL football kid in the past five years who was a National Merit Scholar, a Grizzly. MSJ had 54 (!) school wide, AV-FHS led the EBAL with 13 ea, pulling up the rear was DLS 1. DoVal is the SRVUSD equivalent demographic.
http://www.vdare.com/posts/national-merit-semifinalists-by-school-and-surname
The Dublin/DoVal town/condos are occupied by DINKS and very young families.
October 17th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
@miraman
I could understand why you would say that. But a lot of eastbay teams outside of leagues like EBAL have ethnic players on their team, even first generation students. Mostly all the 510 teams are like that. Those kids might not know how to play the game right away but that doesn’t mean they can’t use their skill and athleticism at a high school level.
October 17th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
And i could understand the rating of monte vista over Logan. I’d tie them for the fact that Logan doubled the point diff against a common opponent in Berkeley. Only thing that wipes that logic out is the blowout that MV had vs pitt, and even Pitt did better vs berkeley compared to MV. Logan doesn’t deserve a hype, they do deserve credit however for attempting to put together a legit schedule.
October 17th, 2012 at 6:08 pm
NCS seedings last year aside, did you really think SL and Berkeley would be good competition for Logan this year? I would have expected both SRV and Heritage to field better teams this year and give them a game, and Del Oro did give them as good of a game as one could want, but their final 4 games with MVAL teams and should be a walk in the park.
http://www.calpreps.com/2012/2_Freelance.htm
October 17th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
2 weak teams out of 6? I’ll take that as an upgrade compared to their sched last year.. mval wasn’t easy for them to get out of as well. SL I think was contract as theyve faced each other for years. Also it is Zuber’s former team so i could see why they faced them regardless. Berkeley, I had no idea that they were going to be weak this year.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:24 pm
No question it is an upgraded schedule for them, but it is still in no way comparable to what teams like DLS, MV, Pitt, Freedom, Cal, Deer Valley, Foothill & SRV face this season prior to the playoffs. The teams they will be seeing in the playoffs.
October 17th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
would like to see logan play deer valley an ebal team and 1 team from wcal
October 17th, 2012 at 7:36 pm
BJ
Once you play an ebal team and you WON’T be around to play a wcal team
October 17th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
would love for a ebal team to play grant!
October 17th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
BJ
The road to grant runs through Del Oro.
October 17th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Grant is nothing special last 2 years
October 17th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
Watching the SRV v Cal game: one of the worst displays of HS defense I have seen in a LONG time. Awful.
Logan has a chance this year in the NCS playoffs to do some damage.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
well it must be easy to get good competition when you play in either ebal or bval, then playing teams from the opposite league for all the other open slots. Logan can’t easily book games against those two leagues when ebal teams play 6 league games + DLS and bval play 5 league games.
And even when you look at the BVAL teams, the only better teams that DV/free/pitt played against were folsom, franklin and granite bay (plays del oro this week), Logan common opponents are SL, Berkeley and in-league Heritage. Then you look at Foothill/SRV/Cal/MV, SRV had the toughest non-league schedule. All the other games were against the BVAL trio or teams like Berkeley or Washington, Logan common opponents.
Which is why I can’t help but compare the teams through common opponents. I’ll agree that all the teams you mentioned above have way tougher schedules that’ll help with experience going into the playoffs (not so much BVAL); this is why I want Logan in the EBAL.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:14 pm
@junior
Logan’s biggest weakness is pass defense (always has been). Which is also Cal’s. No coincidence there with Zuber/Billeci. Logan’s run defense is probably one of the best out there however. BUT if the SRV/Logan game was a fluke due to lingering injuries on SRV, then Logan will be in a long night against teams like MV, Freedom, DV and SRV themselves. It’s going to be a light show with the way all these D1 teams score come playoff time though, I’ll guarantee that.
October 17th, 2012 at 9:56 pm
BillJohnson…..Grant is having a tough year and maybe next year also….The EBAL teams would give Grant a good roughing up…If this were several years ago, teams would scringe with the fact they must face Grant..
October 17th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
CandyCrowley…I haven’t heard or seen the word…Dinks
since my days in Nam…
October 17th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
CandyCrowley,
I didn’t quite get your post. MSJ has lots of National Merit Scholars…OK. MSJ also has a large asian population. MSJ also has a crappy football team. Actually, they have the mother of all crappy football teams. DV also has a large asian population (60% based on the DV website) and likely a fair number of National Merit Scholars and …you guessed it, a lousy football team! Sound like a pattern.
But I wasn’t sure if you were suggesting that you would rather have smart kids than football players or if you were suggesting football players are particularly dumb. Either way, I’m OK with it. I was just responding to the post asking why DV has a lousy football team and I think the information you bring up reaffirms my point.
Seven72deuce,
I wasn’t suggesting asian kids (or other ethnicities) couldn’t be very good at football. Its just has been my experience that they generally don’t go out in the same numbers as second gen and beyond.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Bluedog, by the term DINK, CC meant “Dual Income, No Kids”. There are not many HS football player candidates living in condos with a lot of DINKS and very youbg families, no matter what their ethnicity.
October 17th, 2012 at 11:43 pm
I agree Logan has a chance to do some real damage in the playoffs this year as they have a strong team, but not because of their schedule. I think it is much better than had they stayed in the MVAL, but most other top D1 teams still have tougher schedules. They did what they could, and we’ll just have to wait and see if it was enough this year.
Question, did they get the same deal DLS has always had in going quasi-independent? Did they get automatic league champ status, or would Logan have to play on the road when they face a league champ?
October 18th, 2012 at 1:42 am
Prep Fan
Actually, if I remember the late 70′s, early 80′s correctly, it was DINC: double income no children. BUT my memory’s not so good these days.
MiraMan and others
On the topic of lots of National Merit Scholars related to “crappy” football teams, what about Lowell in the City? They have as many NM semi-finalists and finalists per student as any public school and usually one of the better AAA FB teams (‘Course one could argue there ARE NO better AAA FB teams).
Actually, there is a fairly strong correlation of successful public school FB programs and higher SAT scores. For example, the Acalanes District high schools, most of the EBAL schools, most of the DeAnza League in CCS, most of the Sierra Foothill League in SJS, the Clovis’(Tri River), the South Coast League(fair to say the toughest public high school league this side of the Pecos year in and year out) in southern Orange County, etc., etc. Of course there are many exceptions. And also of course, MONEY is a very common denominator.
Speaking of “crappy” football teams, anybody want to fathom the worst 7-0 (or 8-0;6-0) team around and the best 0-7 (or 0-8; 0-6) team?
(Hey, it’s late at night!)
October 18th, 2012 at 5:49 am
Schoolman,
What teams are 0-7?
October 18th, 2012 at 7:20 am
SRV @15?
Can anyone explain a 3-4 team getting that rank. I have heard the pre-season was against quality teams, but they went 0-3. Then they are 3-0 in Ebal (livermore teams assisted) face Cal, lose and get ranked. Why, because it was close? Anyone watching Cal knows they give up 30+pts. Because it was their home coming game?
Is this a conspiracy? I figure SRV loses 4 str (starting with last weeks game) and ends up 3-7.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:07 am
@prep fan
From what I heard is that they play away against league champs. No carpet turf advantage.
@stop drop and rumble
There’s one team you can compare SRV to that is ranked: Deer valley. That common opponent in folsom that both teams lost to in the same fashion kept SRV lingering around. Then yes, the fact they kept it close with Cal did help them. Think about it this way, who do you put above them at 15?
October 18th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Schoolmarm,
I agree that strong football programs and strong student performance can go hand in hand. I have two kids at Miramonte and while they are not National Merit Scholars or anything like that, they are certainly doing their share to keep the API scores in the top in the state of California. And yes, my son is on the football team.
Best 0-7 school is San Leandro. They should have beaten Dublin and Hayward; they gave Castro Valley and Deer Valley good games and their other opponents are just to tough for them to handle.
Worst undefeated team is Analy. Yea, they beat my team Miramonte. But that is their best win and that was only by one TD late in the fourth quarter. They benefited from the dual effect of a down year at Healdsburg and the realignment of SCL. I like them and think they are a good team, but undefeated??
October 18th, 2012 at 9:58 am
I think the WCAL, Trinity League and DLS are the shining examples of strong football programs and strong student performance. While other leagues have strong student performance, they don’t have dynasty teams like these leagues. The Accalnes especially and even the EBAL are not even close to these power programs.
October 18th, 2012 at 10:36 am
ON THIS SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN ITS HARD 2 FIND GOOD COACHING THAT WILL PASS SCREENING!!!!
u guys keep talking about the kids the adults have checkered pass. THE KIDS SUFFER FROM BADD COACHING AND COACHES TEACHING VERY VERY BADD TECHNIQUE ignorance is blissful coaches make up thing because they just dont know!!! if ur blaming the kids MAYBE U SHOULD LOOK IN THE MIRROR homey
October 18th, 2012 at 10:48 am
Prep Fan….When most of the Condo’s were going on the market for sale or lease…the majority of the buyers/leasers were single parents with kids..that were better off then others and qualified for loans and leases..i had many contracts cross my desk for review and on inspections you would see lots of kids playing…But there were a fair amount of no kid parents that were in the contracts also…
October 18th, 2012 at 10:58 am
teams in trouble
san leandro
alameda
spsv
ygancio valley
college park
MSJ
BHS
moreau
encinal
SRV
More losses comingunless they can turned around this weekend.
October 18th, 2012 at 11:46 am
YoMama,
What is the one thing the WCAL, Trinity League, and DLS have in common to be “shining examples of strong football programs” and the ability to be a “dynasty team”? That’s right, they are all private schools able to secure their “dynasty” with open enrollment.
For you to state the Acalanes High School District (Miramonte, Las Lomas, Acalanes, Campolindo) and the EBAL “are not even close to these power programs” is beyond moronic and obviously self evident. Of course these PUBLIC SCHOOLS, by definition, can never be “dynasty” schools for two simple reasons:
1) The quanity and quality of good student athletes that rises and falls in any given year within their school district boundaries.
2) The fact that private schools, by definition, pick off many of the good student athletes that would otherwise attend their local high school because they have no boundaries.
Once again, give DLS all the credit in the world for having the best coaching staff in northern California, if not beyond; great student athletes continue to pour into DLS, perpetuating the dynasty, beacause of the now iconic football program Coach Lad has built from scratch over 30 years ago. Just remember, the reason that DLS has won 20 consecutuve NCS titles necessarily begins with item 2) above.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Reason, you are right. I just wanted to drill the point home. Except the privates don’t have to pick off the good-student atheletes , they want to attend the privates- especially if the students are Catholic and parents/students want to attend Catholic high schools.
SoCal publics with strong programs are also in this catorgory, like Mission Viejo, Poly, etc.
The Accalnes school district has never been a power football area except some Miramonte teams under Coach Burn in the past. The EBAL has been up in talent the last 10 yrs- especially at QB. Don’t beleive all these QB’s came from the district, example Wright(Miami).
Hope I wasn’t too moronic for you.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Sad state of affairs – Youth football coach punches ref.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c3#/video/bestoftv/2012/10/17/mxp-youth-coach-hits-ref.hln
October 18th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
“Dual Income No Kids” is correct. BTW, one of the best EBAL RBs has an Asian surname. The post was to clarify the East Dublin/DoVal demographics points. However, that alone cannot explain the Wildcats very nice run to the NCS baseball final. It’s more complex, but coaching is pretty important.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
Logan deserves credit but they are overrated a bit. They beat SRV but because QB Birse of SRV threw 3 picks for Touchdowns. Logan’s offense only scored two td’s on the night.
Both Livermore schools were worse than predicted by the respective staffs, cowboys hoping to win 5 games and granada 6 games.
SRV is in big big trouble tomorrow night at Foothill, the Falcons will pummel Birse all night.
Monte Vista can beat DLS but MV needs to throw for 380 yards and 4 td’s on the night. It can be done.
CHS will be fine by playoffs
October 18th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
YoMama,
You are absolutely right that parents want to send their kids to DLS and other private schools. I didn’t mean to imply that DLS recruits these type of student athletes. I have never felt DLS has recruited; Lad is way too classy.
Taking Long Beach Poly, a public school, as an example of what I am talking about; this season they are 4-3 and lost a game 56-0 to Narbonne. As all public schools ultimately do, they appear to be in a down cycle, at least for this season. By the way Poly has the largest student population of any school in California at around 4800 students.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
My rankings of best RB & QB & WR in EBAL League Play only until now, obviously when it comes to EBAL status, non-league games don’t mean a damn:
RB:
K. Johnson at CHS
Chang at MV
DeLa Pena at SRV
Gates at FHS
Hernandez at Liv
Granados at GHS
Peters at AHS
QB:
Zamora at MV
Birse at SRV
Owen at CHS
Kearns at FHS
Moreno at AHS
Offill at GHS
McPherson at Liv
WR:
Merlin at MV
Hudson at FHS
Zamora at MV
Turner at SRV
Miller at AHS
Campiotti at GHS
Finney at FHS
October 18th, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Who is the stud player from SRV that quit last Friday night or was kicked off the team?
Lot of rumors flying
October 18th, 2012 at 2:23 pm
I wonder what planet gridlock if from? was it he that came in on a ball of fire into the hills last night? NOT.
It was Hephaestus who is dropping by Winton Drive to watch over the Spartan this Friday. Monte Vista will be sent home with tail between its legs as the Spartan Army drives them back into the hills. Like a fly that is lured into the mouth of Dionaea muscipula, the trap will spring and the Mustang will be digested.
Concord the Eagles are circling and coming in for the strike.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
First it was 3 players a couple of weeks ago that reportedly quit, and now a stud player is also gone? What is going on at SRV this season?
October 18th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Stewie, you are illuminating a few others with complex words that I cannot understand. Good luck vs. MV
October 18th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
I don’t think anything is going on at SRV this year. But I do believe expectations were way too high with a first-year starter at QB, an average defense, and harsh schedule caused a perfect storm of events to have some players either quit or lose their temper and get the boot.
It happens at every major program
October 18th, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Is it also true that Cal has two good junior qb’s or just the one guy now? That program appears to be stockpiled with deep talent for the next 5 years or more.
MV will be even better on D next year too and so will Granada, they will peak in next yr.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Reason, narabonne is in the top ranked teams in Cal the last couple of years. Don’t know where they surfaced from. Poly down this year, however Poly usually up with them being the Southern California All-stars at one time. Lots of players always wanted to go to Poly- large alumni. They still put a lot of kids in div 1, especially to usc and ucla.
Has Mission Viejo ever had a bad year- Coach johnson the best qb coach in the country.
October 18th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
gridlock, it’s all Greek to me. Spartans going to defend the pass- as in 300.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Narbonne apparently got a bunch of transfers from a local HS, Carson.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:11 pm
@gridlock
That’s like saying Logan wouldn’t score those 21 points on offense if they didn’t take those turnovers to the house. They probably would have scored another 2 TDs if their offense was on the field a whole lot more after defensive stops. I’ll agree that Logan is a bit overrated. But if SRV scored that many points on Cal and all those other top teams. Then that’s a scary defense that Logan has.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
It is time to start a transfer window like in European soccer, schools can bid on players up to the second scheduled game and make transfers. Just kidding.
Campo will keep rolling along…they are in good position to do a repeat trip to Carson.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:57 pm
@gridlock
That’s assuming that Logan wouldn’t score more than 14 points on offense if those 3 turnovers were taken to the house. I’ll agree about a bit overrated. But if you’re gonna tell me a Logan didn’t do much against SRV, think again. And yes, I’ve heard about the ailments they suffered from Buhach but I wouldn’t take that much credit away from the shutout victory Logan had.
October 18th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
Werent taken*
October 18th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Mission Viejo under coach Bob Johnson went 6-4-1 in 2007 and were one and done in the playoffs that year. Otherwise, they are routinely one of the top public school football programs in southern California. Incidentally, DLS played and beat MV 35-7 that year.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:36 pm
LB Poly in a down cycle? Ignorant statement. Poly has as much if not more D1 talent than any school in CA.
Yet another example of the impact of leadership and coaching on HS sports- 75% of success.
October 18th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
Cal has two solid junior QBs, Owens and Lorenz. Owens is a better runner and was on Varsity as a Sophmore. Lorenz is a better passer in that he checks off more and threw for over 1000 yards (1400?) in JV. Both have guns. The starting position was up for grabs, but Owens earned it with his performance against Pitt.
Lorenz will sit in the pocket and check down. Owens will take off if his primary receiver is covered.
Bottom line cal upcoming crops
2010 Freshman 9-1
2011 Freshman 10-0
2011 JV 9-1
2012 All those underclassman are coming up. Most JV players (now juniors) are on Varsity.
Next year Cal weill be deeper as they have plenty of depth to handle the out going seniors this year.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
With all this Cal depth and success, can we finally see a non league schedule that challenges the Grizz.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
Cal will probably be picked 5th in the EBAL again next year.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
I think next years schedule is already locked down, but I really can’t say for sure.
Washington (why)
Pitt
Castro Valley
Bye
Ebal
De la salle
October 18th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
sorry for the double comment. i thought my first one didn’t go through.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:05 pm
Cal needs to schedule Bishop Gorman- that will sell out. The rest needs wcal and sjs powerhouses period.
Cal will become the elite of the ebal when that happens.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:11 pm
Reason, yes you are correct as usual- however Mission Viejo also beat DeLa with Sanchez and they don’t dodge anyone. I do remember them losing to DeLa at Winton. They are like Mater Dei- 4 times vs. DeLa and liked the comp. I saw Matt G. destroy Mater at Stockton at Al. Stagg Stad. 6 tds- I don’t miss much – I’ve played and seen from Pastorni to Fouts and more. I’ve walked beaches from West Mac to Winton Dr. Chalktalk- are you in to my mojo? Dennis Dixon is.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Chalk- give me yur stats- I was 4.5 vertical only 40- however tech made me make them cough blood= you sound like yur better- but I’m a west berkeley white boy and had excellent coverage – no tds- yur right coaching is a huge part- don’t coach what yur don’t, understand.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:09 pm
yo mama
GIFTED PEOPLE HAVE INSTINCT THEY UNDERSTAND BALANCE AND LEVERAGE DOWN 2 THE MOST MINUTE DETAIL UNDERSTANDING THE EXACT MOMENT UR OPPONENT IS WEAKEST AND EXACTLY HOW 2 EXPLOIT IT
technique has always been the imatation of talent
and some peoples talent is far more superior than ur technique
October 18th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Chalk talk,
Shut the f up, you don’t know sht about coaching, playing, or morals. You’re a jaw runner that’s done it all and knows it all. Do us all a favor, put your iPod on and walk on the train tracks and count to 5,000,000.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Why would Cal play BG when BG went down to DLS.
All Cal would do is complain about the unfair advantage of playing a private school. Cal should play some of the Sac Area Schools like Grant or Granite Bay and Lincoln out of the Valley and maybe St. Marys of Stockton and you might add CV-C for next year as CV-C states they will be ready to take on DLS in 2 more seasons. Just saying you know.
October 18th, 2012 at 9:32 pm
lol
Island cheif calm down and have some turkey tails
if u disagree with what i said then ur not gifted
shut the hell up and stay out grown folks convo
October 18th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
Island chef
WHEN U CHOP DOWN A TREE U TAKE OUT CHUNK AFTER CHUNK UNTIL IT COMES DOWN b patient young skywalker anger will get u no where lmao
October 18th, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Junior,
It must be nice to know your team will never, ever, suffer through a season where you just don’t have enough talent to compete; where the NCS D1 championship has all but been conceded to you for 20 straight years and for the forseeable future; where the structural advantage DLS enjoys in Contra Costa County ensures they will never lose to a public school team in northern California.
Yes Junior, even public school teams as big as Long Beach Poly have down years. I guess all that “leadership and coaching” and all that D1 talent at Poly hasn’t had the desired effect this season. The good news Junior, is that Coach Lad would never allow his loaded teams to under perform like Poly. Keep with the denial Junior, the hole you continue to dig for yourself keeps getting bigger and bigger.
October 19th, 2012 at 1:50 am
With all the talk about DLS’s “advantages, I’m surprised no one (at least to my knowledge) has pointed out that west of the tunnelin the East Bay there are 6 parochial high schools for boys (7 if you count SPSV) in a population of about 1.5m; 2 in the South Bay, pop of about 1.7m; 3 on the Peninsula, pop about .75m; 3 in the City, pop about .8m; 1 in Marin, pop about .25m; 2 in the North Bay, pop about .56m; and only ONE east of the tunnel in the East Bay, pop about 1.1m. Even in Orange County, pop about 3m, the bastion of 5 of the 6 mighty Trinity League teams, there are 4 (and St. John Bosco in Bellflower is right next door). Are there more people per capita of the Catholic faith in those places than out here? (Doesn’t seem like it.)
There has been a new parochial high school planned for Livermore for several years now. Does anyone have any info. or word as to when the Diocese is planning a ground breaking?
October 19th, 2012 at 3:59 am
Poly doesn’t have good coaching. Raul Lara’s been on the “hot seat” the last 2-3 years and has gained the reputation of getting “C” worthy effort out of “A” talent.
October 19th, 2012 at 4:30 am
Actually, the Moore League is probably going to be kicked out of the Pac 5 for next year, unless Poly and/or Lakewood (can’t imagine anyone else in that league)get past the 1st round. Even then, anything short of the semis will probably result in them being tossed.
October 19th, 2012 at 6:30 am
why is everyone so obsessed with Cal high’s schedule. If you look at the cal prep ratings, it is only 3 points behind DLS. they are ahead of mv, freedom, logan, dv, and pretty much on par with pitt. foothill and srv have slight 4 pt advantages. and cal hasn’t played DLS yet, so they will get that major boost then as well. could they play some tougher teams yes, but they have a brutal league schedule and when it comes down to it. if you dont beat DLS in the playoffs it is all irrelevant.
and i think everyone’s argument that public schools are so dominant in SJS when the topic arises of public vs private is baseless. but who in SJS is consistently dominant? rocklin? del oro? gb? they all trade turns. some are better some years than others, the way the public school system works. still with all that who in SJS has beaten DLS. so your point about rising up as a public and being dominant like the SJS? who has beaten DLS? sounds like they have the same issues?
October 19th, 2012 at 6:55 am
@127. As usual you can’t defend the great “structural advantage” theory. LB Poly is yet another example of why your theory is wrong. It does not hold up. Theory denied again. You better get back to the drawing board.
October 19th, 2012 at 9:20 am
marm,
DLS has the good fortune of being the ONLY private school in NCS D1, centrally located, such that the access they have to more than 1.5 million people in three counties enables any family to get their student athlete to school in a reasonable amount of time. No other private school in California has this structural advantage, repeat NOBODY.
It is often mentioned why doesn’t this same advantage work for a private school like Christian Brothers or Jesuit in Sacramento County? The answer is simple, they haven’t had the commitment to football, nor the outstanding coaching, for a significant number of years to be able to attract top tier student athletes, year in and year out, to sustain their program at a high level.
Plese keep in mind it took 15 or so years for Bob Ladouceur to create the dynasty that DLS now enjoys, and for that he deserves all the praise that is heaped upon him; not to mention that I sincerely believe him to be the best high school football coach in northern California. No recruiting is necessary, top student atheletes in the greater east bay want to play for Lad; and can you blame them?
Since the 1990′s, DLS has been able to leverage this advantage by drawing an inordinate share of top student athletes to the school, regardless of a family’s religious affiliation, and in so doing, lessen the talent that might otherwise play at the local public high school (mainly the EBAL & BVAL). In my opinion, it isn’t really having the cream of the crop players so much as the depth they have at every position. DLS is routinely able to weather the inevitable injuries to some of their star players and not miss a beat because of the depth. These 2nd and 3rd line players at DLS would be starters at their local public school. This season is a great example of what I am talking about.
Another way to marvel at the gravitation pull DLS has in attacting top football talent is to look at those who have actually LEFT the school in the last few years for one reason or another. Adarius Pickett of El Cerrito, who just recently was offered a scholarship to Cal; Mister Cotton of Pittsburg; the list goes on I’m sure.
Junior and others of his ilk will never be able to bring themselves to acknowledge this structural advantage lest it detract from their mantra of “its all about the coaching, the commitment and the brotherhood” as the main reason they have won 20 NCS D1 championships in a row.
I say, enjoy DLS football; I certainly do. Just understand how and why they have been able to maintain their dynasty as outlined above.
Finally, the original reason for my posts on this subject is that I just feel for the other 20 NCS D1 public schools who will never, ever, get to a NORCAL regional game, much less a State Bowl Game, as long as the system is set up the way it is.
October 19th, 2012 at 9:41 am
voice maintains “talent” is why DLS dominates (99% of their success according to him)- LB Poly has more talent than any HS, public or private- you have seen the results.
Coaching and leadership are by far the #1 predictor of HS sport success. The proof is all around you if you would open your eyes.
Amazing that some claim Lad is the best coach around yet he doesnt get credit for coaching up his players. Eventually it will dawn on you that Lad and his staff make these kids better football players.
@131- When SRV, Pitt and Logan are stepping up their non league schedule- it makes you wonder why Cal refuses to do it. Maybe Cal does not want to be great or are only willing to challenge themselves so much. However, to beat DLS you must elevate your program- playing CV and Wash does not elevate your program.
October 19th, 2012 at 9:45 am
@ Voice. You could not have said that any better!
October 19th, 2012 at 9:45 am
well those other 20 teams in the eastbay would be beaten in open or div 1 if they ever did get to state. here’s an idea- how about a bowl set-up? hook up half a dozen bowls after NCS and invite 12 teams. have them in different areas of NorCal. One extra game, have them during Xmas break.
October 19th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Lad is one of the greatest of all times…However, I’m in agreement with the voice of reason. Put Lad at Livermore high 20 years ago…Would they be what De La Salle is now? NOPE, not even close.
October 19th, 2012 at 9:50 am
Junior, I wonder if Lad will be on the sidelines on Sunday as MJD takes on the Raiders. After all, according to you, the coaches at DLS molded him into a 4.3 40 yd, physical specimen by the coaches at DLS. Making average athletes great! It’s all about the coaching…
October 19th, 2012 at 10:39 am
MJD ia a great back that benifited his DLS journey. Obviously has great talent but I remember when he was a soph at Mater Dei hame down south and Matt G. threw 2 perfect passes down the sidelines for TDS to Maurice.
The coaches had worked with Jones all week and inserted him and those plays into the starting lineup. Jones never looked back after that game. He also had extensive weight training and conditioning at DLS, he was a lot smaller before his junior year. So in essence, great coaching and experience helped launch him into a very storied high school career, then on to UCLA. A perfect fit in the Bruin system, as they always featured small backs. I believe Jones would tell you that DLS did more for him preparing him as a man, student and athelete than anything else in life.He’s just another very good running back if he attended Pitt High.
October 19th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Panther 4, Lad would help any team he coached in being successful. Yea, not on DLS level, but a definate improvement over current conditions.
I don’t think a public has a religion teaching job for Lad, allow players to go to chapel, allow prayer before and after games, team dinners and garage meetings, accountabilty, discinpline, etc. etc. etc. There’s a big advantage going to a Catholic school when trying to connect with students and committments. And if you don’t beleive in the Brotherhood you’ll never understand it and so be it cuz the players do and that’s all that counts. The parents can’t even figure it all out but know it’s special.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:11 am
Some of you need to improve your reading comprehension. It is simple- do you believe Lad improves his players more so than other coaches?
Interesting that people go right to a skill player to try and prove a point. SRV graduated an NFL RB not that long ago- there are lots of talented players in the East Bay.
Still waiting for the explanation as to why the Spartans are so dominate along the LOS without the D1 talent. Must be part of that “structural advantage”. While you are at that- tell us why DLS is consistently the best tackling team in CA.
If Lad was at LHS 20 years ago they no doubt would be a big time player in D1 football. Would they win 20 NCS titles in a row? Probably not, but they would have won alot because Lad would not have been at DLS.
Recall that Cal HS was at the bottom of the east bay in terms of football…. until one thing changed- their coach.
Dont give up public school faithful- Lad/Eidson will retire soon and you will have your chance.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:28 am
What local football prep games are being aired on TV tonight?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:28 am
I am not a DLS fan, some may even say I’m a DLS hater. But I certainly respect all they do and have done, and you can’t take away anything from their program, staff or brotherhood. Even if you ignore all the recruiting, the no school boundaries, etc. etc.. there are some very simple advantages at DLS.
Basic nutrition a kid/player needs to be strong and healthy. Some kids in public schools don’t even have this. At DLS you have access to many meals, vitamins and nutrients that your struggling parents do not have to pay for. Injuries, DLS has top notch trainers, therapist and doctors to rehab their kids. Stem machines and ice baths. Some public schools barely have tape to wrap up a sprain.
This may not be the case for all schools, maybe some of them EBAL schools have $$ in their program like DLS and still can’t compete.. But I know schools like Berkely, Pitt, Antioch, Deer Valley struggle with these basic things.. And on any given year put a damn good product on the field .. but never on a level playing field with DLS. To each their own opinion, but advantages over there are a plenty..
October 19th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
@134 – Amazing to think that someone would say that Lad doesn’t get enough credit. He is universally lauded as being the top HS coach in NorCal history, if not CA or even US. Just because his great coaching has meant that many kids from far away have been drawn to play for him shouldn’t detract from what he has accomplished. I’ve never seen anyone on here saying anything bad about Lad, but just because there might be other things in play besides great coaching doesn’t mean anyone doesn’t give Lad credit for any of his coaching brilliances.
October 19th, 2012 at 2:02 pm
To answer the comments about supplies at public schools- have some fundraisers. The parents of DLS students pay taxes to their respective school district plus pay tuition for their kids. Most DLS parents are both working, live more modestly than you would think and many have been hit by the economic downturn, in other words laid off and not working. I had said before, there’s plently of top notch alumni at some of these schools that can kick in funds for supplies and equipment. We had a fundraiser last year and supplied the SMCHS team new and safe helmets, from the alumni. Don’t tell my Pitt with Galli and others don’t have or struggle with supplies. BHS has more funds than you can shake a stick at, Berkeley is a well endowed city.
LaMorinda charges a fee for kids to play. The OAL squanders their money, even after donations from the Raiders and A’s.
As far as Doctors and trainers, Dr.s donate their time.
Are you telling us their are no Doctors in these schools who send their kids there? Hit up local doctors, that’s the AD’s job. This BS that the 1% pay for everything while others sit idly by on the sidelines complaining is for the birds. Have them pull up their bootstraps and get to work!
October 19th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Any idea to what the NCS D1 seedings would be if the season ended today? and by the time the season ends?
October 19th, 2012 at 2:12 pm
There’s money in Berkeley. The Un. of California could help BHS if it is that bad.
I know BPD police officers who earn $ 700 a day on overtime shifts! The fire dept. is one of the highest paid in the state without any big risks like highrises.The city council is well paid and also city workers. They are very unionized. They have funds.
Berkeley should stop worrying about rent control, homeless laws and majauana initatives.
They have plenty of money to take care of their schools, pay coaches and pay trainers. I am sure they could have Cal students intern as trainers if that is what is needed.
October 19th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Chalktalk- I forgot 21.4 220 relay speed, we might have to have a run-off. What’s yur take on tonite’s games? DeLa vs. MV? Logan? Pitt? I liked the comback to Island. Has he growed up yet?
October 19th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@Big Dog
The funding for California Schools is equally distributed to each school district from state taxes and not by local taxes (about $5000 per kid). From there, school districts create their budgets. Some cities and school districts have parcel taxes or bonds to hook up extra for their schools (Piedmont and Acalanes schools give several thousand extra per kid).
Cities have not responsibility for schools at all (unless a parcel or bond is involved). Fire and Police are city funded (I think Fire gets way to much money).
Some poor school districts get extra money from the federal government.
BTW, Berkeley voters have spent $85,000,000 on schools recently.
October 19th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
@38 and @39 mjd was a great runner b4 he ever came 2 dls. he was running circles around kids at pop warner level. he comes from a great family of athletes in richmond. mjd was gon b successful at whatever high school he ended up at. it just so happen 2 b at dls. if dls coaches was that great in producing great backs, why is DREW the only 1 who made it to the league? point being mjd is a special player that the coaches at dls plucked away from his neighborhood. SO DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ABOUT MJD AND DLS COACHES MAKING HIM!!!!!!
October 19th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
Questions for the Governor. How many coaches are at the varsity level at DLS? How much did the ball warmer cost? (Thank you 49er Joe?) Is the veer predictably the most difficult high school offense to defend? (Goatchalk, not HOW to defend, okay?)
October 19th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
@New2This I agree it’s not the only reason they win but it is a contributing factor
@BigDog be realistic, first off most of the stars on DLS don’t pay tuition they get “assistance” recruit tool. And DLS has a great football booster program that raises tons of money for them to have these nice things. But the fact is DLS has more access to funds, donations, etc then most public schools. When you take your kid trick or treating you much rather go on Winton Dr then School Street. All public schools fundraising and charge players anywhere from $100 – $500 per season but that does not get them what DLS has funds for. YOur telling me a Car Wash or bake sale is going to pay for a public football team to travel to Hawaii, Texas, Las Vegas for a game, I think not. Attend a school board meeting once in a while and you will see that most school boards are trying to cut out sports not give them any more money. Look at MD school district destroying whatever sports they had left.
October 19th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Lizzy- I believe DJ Williams was a running back at DLS and he’s going on 15 yrs. as a pro. They have had other backs that made pro’s also- Jackie Bates and Kevin Simon. They might not have played the running back position, but they still made it.
No one said DLS coaches made Drew but they surely molded him and pointed him in the right direction to success at ucla. If you are saying he stays in richmond and pittsburg and has the same degree of success attending DLS, then son, you need theraphy.
October 19th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
DLS typically has more coaches on the sidelines than other local high school teams. I don’t know about the national teams like STA and Bosco, but more than most other East Bay teams. I don’t know how many are paid or volunteer, but those kids are well schooled.
October 19th, 2012 at 4:10 pm
KIR- since you have no kids at dls you are not qualified to know about tuition assistance. first of all, the mission of the Christian Bros. is to educate the poor. All CB schools have tuition assistance. The assistance program goes thru a national board who approves or declines funds. parents must send all supporting documents and tax returns. the annual tuition fund at dls was appx. $ 700 K plus a year. Appx. 20 % of the student body is on some tuition relief. A lot of this is raised by golf tournaments, etc. CHS across the street earns almost $ 300 K for tuition from their Visions of Xmas.
If your family qualifies, you get tuition whether you play football or not. There are lots of kids on assistance at dls. No one gets a full ride. The max tuition assistance is appx. 50 % of tuition. The best football player dls ever produced, DJ Williams, Mother worked 2 jobs to send her child there. You as a student must work this off after school, lunchtime duties, etc. So know your facts about tuition. Again, if you don’t ENTER TO LEARN AND LEAVE TO SERVE, how would you ever know about DLS?
October 19th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
@153. Toomer, Landri, Taylor but you chose DJ? Not quite the face of Christian Brotherhood.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8466699/denver-broncos-linebacker-dj-williams-suspended-3-more-games
October 19th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
BigDog has his facts mixed up. This is straight from dlshs.org “There are grants based on financial need that approach 100% of tuition.” And the funds are not decided by a national board, but locally.
http://www.dlshs.org/data/files/gallery/AdmissionsFiles/DLS_Financial_Aid_FAQs_English_1314.pdf
29% of the student body get $1.2m.
It also clearly states that tuition is NOT worked off by parents nor students.
October 19th, 2012 at 6:15 pm
CandyCrowley – since you have no kids at dls you are not qualified to know about tuition assistance. I didn’t know you had to be qualified to have such knowledge. Reading about it from a seemingly reliable site cannot possibly qualify you. Maybe the dlshs.org site administrator has no kids at dls either?
October 19th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Ha already talking about next year Cal fans… when will they be as dominant as the 2010 squad, heart baby
October 19th, 2012 at 10:53 pm
I had kids there. The qualifications have changed over the years. Again if 29 % of the student body receives 1.2 K, that doesn’t leave full tuition for the football players. In the past all tuition assistance was worked off. It still is at CHS, and Candy and Prep, you both obviously have any kids at dls. Bye the way, the recruited full ride football players beat the crap out of money-haven Monte Vista tonite 41-09.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Junior, I have finally figured it out- we’re preaching to the choir. Bloggers and parents who can’t stand success and their kids getting whipped by high quality football- They better hope their kids and they won;t figure out college ball cuz it’s a lot tuffer than DLS and they’ll still complain how the little jimmie’s got their assed handed to them cuz they weren’t ready- but that’s ok cuz their kids and them ain’t making it. That’s a little bit of the old testimant and yes DJ will do as a shining example of Christian brotherhood. What a bunch of sissy loosers. Amen.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:14 pm
Way to be humble. Is it that exciting to beat MV for the 12th time in a row? I’m sure Lad loves to see posts like that.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:25 pm
Prep Fan, you’re a full fledged jackass. Who cares what Lad thinks? Do you really think he’s like you? He’s the coach, not the fans. Again, your social and BS attempts to Lad stink. Lad knows when to stick it to MV and he and the staff and the offal officials kept another 14 pts. off the board. I am going to pray for you at Mass tomorrow and since it’s Halloween insist that the Spanish Inquister get the info out of you soon. Mabey the Iron Maiden is the best for a weak minded public prinkle like you. Junior and others are going to break your will.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:30 pm
the ebal has been served notice.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Chalktalk- what do u think what happened out at winton dr. tonite? Top notch ebal qb- picks, sacks and held down all game avergaing 379 per game by a bunch of kids playing the 2nd and 3rd string for the entire 4th quarter? they sacked MV even with small defensive reserves in.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
the best MV had to offer tonite was the 40 person cheerleading squads.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:28 am
@ 153 – Big Joe; correction on your D.J. Williams numbers. He hasn’t played 15 years in the NFL; He will be starting his 6th season this year after he completes his suspensions for his 2nd DUI and turning in synthetic urine to league officials.
@ 162 – YoMama, it is VERY important as to what Coach Ladouceur thinks. He represents De La Salle, just as you do and Junior does and Big Dog and others who either support, have attended or have had their kids attend the school. De La Salle is about brotherhood and learning to be a better man in society. These goals are not just about the football team but for ALL of those who attend.
You may not agree, but being a better man in my mind does not include insulting opponents (especially kids for goodness sakes) or frankly insulting anyone who may hold differing views than your own.
As for what Coach Ladouceur thinks, perhaps it’s best represented by this quote: “… it’s not about the streak, or being the all-time winningest. I appreciate the benchmark and the recognition of the long haul and my hard work, but it’s about being a positive part of so many young kids’ lives. It’s pretty humbling.”
And don’t think for one minute that Coach Ladouceur only includes his players in that over all view. It includes kids from other teams who he has helped as well as kids in his Religious Studies classes that he has taught and it has never included the belittling of others. That is not Coach Lad’s way, nor is it the way of De La Salle. I shouldn’t have to remind you or anyone else of that.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:12 am
@134 – You are an idiot. Cal beat both Pittsburg and SRV this season so what is your point? When you are in the EBAL you do not need a tough preseason schedule, especially when you play DLS week 10!
October 20th, 2012 at 1:30 am
BigJoe and YoMama
Both you guys were right on yesterday and last night.
October 20th, 2012 at 1:38 am
@ Big Joe, I started to reply to your post but I already see many other bloggers already put you in your place. But since I’m here let me put it out there. I know everything about DLS. Family members have played there, close friends kids have played there, longtime friend of J Aliotti and D Williams coaches there for 10+ years (shit even longer). Currently connected to 3 players on Varsity and one of JVs.. oh wait he’s not on JVs anymore he’s a Freshman kid from PItt that started on JVs and recently got moved to Varsity (yes a frosh playing varsity) his name is Boss. I know this cause I just like many people know all the doings of DLS. Oh and by the way Boss gets 92% tuition assistance, guess your right it’s not 100.
Fact is DLS is the best program in Northern Cali they have not lost to a North Cali team since 92 (Pitt). They have a loss or two down south or in other states. So it’s debatable if they are the best program in all of Cali. NO one who knows anything about great coaching, scheme, discipline can argue that DLS is not the best in this area.
But the fact remains, be as ignorant as you want. This storied program has advantages no other school in Northern Cali has.
October 20th, 2012 at 7:07 am
@167 EPC3 – well stated.
And by the way, Big Joe, Yo Mama and Big Dog are all the same person who likes to appear to have like minded posters but really just steps off long enough to switch screen names. Case in point last night posts under all 3 different names at 11:30, 11:33 & 11:35. Clearly the same writing style.
October 20th, 2012 at 8:27 am
To Somewhere over the rainbow…An Ice bath at DLS is a garbage can filled with ice & water, please come back to reality. But then again take a look at Bishop Gorman.
I guess the legend of Winton drive lives on. That is with emphasis on the W…”W”inton..
Back to the game MV kept on hitting but Sparty hit harder and made a Statement. The Spartans will have the away challenge for the last two games and I am sure preparation will be the focus.
CV-C gets the BEAT DOWN of the Week.
October 20th, 2012 at 10:57 am
“Gridlock, look at your surprise team Mt. Eden and everyone can tell that you’re using meth.
Mt.Eden beat a winless Richmond 17-8, a winless Albany 17-7, 2-5 Mt.Diablo and 1-6 San Lorenzo. They lost to Oakland high. Who is in the weakest league known to high school football and they’re going to get stomped on by Alameda this week. Mark my words. Alameda 33 Mt.Eden 7.” – IslandChief
*COUGH COUGH*
October 20th, 2012 at 11:20 am
@Bluedog and Mandown – guess you guys were wrong about Pitt again. Agreed the dumb ass penalties kill them but when they are on watch out!
Just counting 3 games against Granite Bay, Freedom and Deer Valley all ranked teams Pitts 3 headed RB monster has run for nearly 1000 yards. I don’t have the numbers from their other games but I’m sure they have ran for over 2000 already.
October 20th, 2012 at 11:40 am
Setting the record straight on SRV rumors:
5 players were suspended for disiplinary reasons. 2 are back on the team, 1 had a season ending injury and 2 opted not to return to the team for personal reasons. No one quit because they were mad about loosing or mad at the coaches or mad at each other. They were over rated. Made a ton of mistakes in games against very good teams (Folsom is undefeated). Their confidence was rocked the coaches didn’t adjust well and that is pretty much it. No other drama. They played their best game of the season last night against FH. They have 2 games to go. We will see if they have learned anything over the last few games.
October 20th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Island chief add 2-6 Alameda to the list of nobody’s with losing records Mt Eden has beaten this year
October 20th, 2012 at 5:11 pm
You still suck. We just suck a little worse than you.
October 21st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
Can a 4-6 team make it into the D-1 playoffs? What’s the criteria for eligibility?
I would really appreciate it if someone could explain the criteria!
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:17 am
A 3-7 team can make it to playoffs as long as they are .500 in league
October 22nd, 2012 at 11:33 am
Harold GP,
Last year Emery went 1-9 and made the D5 playoffs because they were 1-1 against D5 schools.
The rule is that you have to be .500 or better overall, .500 or better in your league, or .500 or better against division rivals (D1, D2, etc.).
As a result of the last criteria, some teams can game the system by playing one game against a woefully bad team in their division and in some cases they can practically guarantee that they are qualified for the playoffs. In other cases, a team can be in a very tough league and the division criteria gives them the opportunity to get a playoff bid by playing division rivals in pre-league. Take Livermore which is the only D2 team in EBAL. They are 2-6, but have two pre-league wins over D2 teams. Even if they finish 2-8 they will be eligible for the D2 playoffs, and likely be a handful for any D2 team they face.
Finally, just because you are eligible doesn’t mean you get in. There are times where 18 teams are eligible in D3, but the bracket is only 16 teams. Two get cut. Also, I think the seeding committee can refuse to include a team if they are really bad, but that doesn’t seem to happen (ask Emery)!
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Livermore just played 1 D2 team, Hayward, who they beat 40-13. Had they lost that game, they would not have been elgible. It might be best for a team in their position to schedule 2 D2 squads. That way, they just need to win one of the 2 to be eligible. The problem is that scheduling a coule of D2 teams may not get them prepared for what faces them when EBAL play starts.
October 22nd, 2012 at 12:55 pm
NCS D1 Qualified – Bubble – Out
School – League (overall, league, division) (Calpreps)
Qualified (still need to be voted in)
1-DeLaSalle – freelance (8-0, n/a, 4-0) 64
games left: @san ramon(d1) 34.7, @california(d1) 46.6
2-MonteVista – ebal (6-2, 3-1, 5-2) 47.1
amador valley(d1) 30.7, san ramon(d1) 34.7
3-California – ebal (7-1, 4-1, 5-1) 46.6
@granada(d1) 23.3, dls(d1) 64
4-Logan – freelance (7-1, n/a, 4-0) 42.9
irvington(d1) -7.4, @mission san jose(d1) -21.9
5-Freedom – bval (6-2, 3-0, 6-1) 40.8
deer valley(d1) 35.8, @liberty(d1) 5.9
6-Pittsburgh – bval (5-3, 2-1, 3-3) 38.7
@heritage(d1) 13.9, @antioch 14.3
7-DeerValley – bval (6-2, 2-1, 3-1) 35.8
@freedom(d1) 40.8, @heritage(d1) 13.9
8-SanRamon – ebal (4-4, 4-1, 3-2) 34.7
dls(d1) 64, @monte vista(d1) 47.1
13-Berkeley – wac(f) (3-4, 3-0, 1-3) 17.8
@bishop odowd(d3) 26, castro valley(d1) 24.3
14-Antioch – bval (5-3, 0-3, 1-3) 14.3
liberty(d1) 5.9, pittsburgh(d1) 38.7
On the Bubble (can still qualify)
9-Foothill – ebal (4-4, 2-2, 2-4) 33.8
@livermore(d2) 19.1, @amador valley(d1) 30.7
10-AmadorValley – ebal (4-4, 2-2, 2-3) 30.7
@monte vista(d1) 47.1, foothill(d1) 33.8
11-CastroValley – wac(f) (4-4, 2-1, 2-3) 24.3
hayward(d2) 8.2, @berkeley(d1) 17.8
12-Granada – ebal (3-5, 0-4, 1-5) 23.3
california(d1) 46.6, livermore(d2) 19.1
15-Heritage – bval (2-6, 2-1, 2-3) 13.9
pittsburgh(d1) 38.7, deer valley(d1) 35.8
18-SantaRosa – nbl (3-5, 1-4, 0-0) 3.8
ukiah(d2) -8.4, @rancho cotate(d2) 34.3
19-Irvington – mval (4-4, 2-3, 1-0) -7.4
@logan(d1) 42.9, @washington(d2) 19
Out(teams just playing out the season and spoiler)
16-Liberty – bval (2-6, 0-3, 0-4) 5.9
@antioch(d1) 14.3, freedom(d1) 40.8
17-SanLeandro – wac(f) (0-8, 0-3, 0-4) 4.4
@encinal(d3) 8.7, bishop odowd(d3) 26
20-DoughertyValley – dfal (0-8, 0-4, 0-1) -16.1
@campolindo(d3) 29.5, las lomas(d2) 13.5
21-MissionSanJose – mval (1-7, 0-5, 0-1) -21.9
@moreau(d4) -5.7, logan(d1) 42.9
October 22nd, 2012 at 1:28 pm
NCS D2 Qualified – Bubble – Out
School – League (overall, league, division) (Calpreps)
QUALIFIED (still need to be voted in)
1. ClaytonValley – dval (7-1, 3-0, 4-0) 34.5
northgate(d2) 22, mt diablo(d2) -19.3
2. RanchoCotate – nbl (8-0, 5-0, 6-0) 34.3
cardinal newman(d3) 37.1, santa rosa(d1) 3.8
3. Concord – dval (6-2, 1-2, 1-2) 27.7
@mt diabl(d2) -19.3, college park(d2) 3.2
4. CasaGrande – nbl (6-2, 4-1, 3-1) 23.4
@windsor(d2) 14.1, cardinal newman(d3) 37.1
5. Northgate – dval (7-1, 3-0, 5-0) 22
@clayton valley(d2) 34.5, ygnacio valley(d3) -11.2
6. Livermore – ebal (2-6, 0-4, 1-0) 19.1
foothill(d1) 33.8, @granada(d1) 23.3
7. Washignton – mval (5-3, 4-0, 2-0) 19
@newark memorial(d2) 17.4, irvington(d1) -7.4
8. NewarkMemorial – mval (6-2, 4-0, 2-0) 17.4
washington(d2) 19, @jfk-fremont(d3) -7.8
10. LasLomas – dfal (3-5, 2-2, 1-1) 13.5
miramonte(d3) 13.5, @dougherty valley(d1) -16.1
12. Dublin – dfal (5-4, 3-2, 0-1) 10.2
@campolindo(d3) 29.5
14. American – mval (5-3, 2-2, 2-2) 4.9
jfk-fremont(d3) -7.8, @moreau(d4) -5.7
16. Arroyo – wac(s) (4-4, 2-1, 3-2) 3.1
piedmont(d4) -10, alameda(d2) -12.2
20. MtEden – wac(s) (5-3, 2-1, 4-1) -10.5
tennyson(d3) 6.9, @piedmont(d4) -10
BUBBLE TEAMS (can still qualify)
9. Windsor – nbl (3-5, 2-3, 1-3) 14.1
casa grande(d2) 23.4, @montgomery(d2) -3
11. Carrillo – nbl (3-5, 2-3, 1-2) 12.4
@montgomery(d2) -3, ukiah(d2) -8.4
13. Hayward – wac(f) (4-4, 2-1, 1-2) 8.2
@castro valley(d1) 24.3, @encinal(d3) 8.7
15. CollegePark – dval (3-5, 1-2, 2-3) 3.2
@ygnacio valley(d3) -11.2, @concord(d2) 27.7
17. PinoleValley – tcl(r) (3-5, 2-2, 1-2) 0
vc-dublin(d4) 16.3, st. marys(d4) 0
21. Alameda – wac(s) (2-6, 0-3, 1-2) -12.2
@san lorenzo(d2) -14.6, @arroyo(d2) 3.1
22. SanLorenzo – wac(s) (2-6, 1-2, 1-4) -14.6
alameda(d2) -12.2, @tennyson(d3) 6.9
25. Richmond – tcl(s) (1-7, 1-2, 0-1) -29,.4
jfk-richmond(d4) -3.6, de anza(d4) -27.3
OUT (just playing out the season and spoiler)
18. Montgomery – nbl (2-6, 1-4, 1-4) -3
carrillo(d2) 12.4, windsor(d2) 14.1
19. Ukiah – nbl (1-7, 0-5, 0-5) -8.4
@santa rosa(d1) 3.8, @carrillo(d2) 12.4
23. MtDiablo – dval (2-6, 0-3, 0-4) -19.3
concord(d2) 27.7, @clayton valley(d2) 34.5
24. Redwood – mcal (1-7, 1-5, 0-1) -20.2
drake(d4) -8.5, siena(d4) 18.7