- East Bay Prep Corner
Week 10: Prep football recap from Friday night
By Jon Becker
Saturday, October 27th, 2012 at 2:20 am in East Bay Football, Uncategorized.
Surprising Amador Valley High staged another fourth-quarter comeback, this time stunning No. 3 Monte Vista in the process, to highlight Friday’s action.
Meanwhile, Clayton Valley, California, Campolindo and Freedom all grabbed shares of league titles. Freedom star Darrell Daniels (pictured above) had another huge game for the Falcons.
Here’s a quick recap from the prep football action around the East Bay Friday night.
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October 27th, 2012 at 8:57 am
CVC Eagles are for real. I knew this game would be a fight by both teams. NG made some costly mistakes and the Eagles pushed through a solid win.
October 27th, 2012 at 9:11 am
If Campo was flat what about DLS. They should have destroyed SRV. The offensive play was just like nightmare on elm street. Dropped balls, bad passing, misreads, very sloppy, missed kicks. The defense played well had the O been more on top of the game and AWAKE they should have been in the low 50′s for a final score. Spartans are still very good but they need to to hit a home run on these final away games. If I understand this correctly Sparty gets a bye in first round of NCS? I feel this will help them heal and get better prepared to advance into state.
October 27th, 2012 at 9:28 am
BOD shouldve won that game last night. All props to Berkeley for getting it done in the final seconds but BOD let one slip away. I thought Berkeley did a great job playing tough defense all night. Props to the yellow jackets
October 27th, 2012 at 9:34 am
The BOD vs berkeley game was a great one is a lot closer than it should have been berkeley left 2 td’s on the field last night but it was still a great game
October 27th, 2012 at 9:51 am
hardy is terrible. harbaugh in the league coaching getting it done hardy cant even get it done with a stacked deck in his favor!
October 27th, 2012 at 10:02 am
With Berkeley winning the WAC-Foothill over BOD I think that it should be refer to as the “B” league. WAC-Shoreline is a “C” league.
October 27th, 2012 at 10:20 am
Berkeley played real high school football last night.
It was fun to watch. They deserve to be league champs and BOD deserved the beating that they took. BOD kids are skilled athletes but Nickerson and his offensive play caller are in way over their head and can’t direct talent.
October 27th, 2012 at 10:43 am
@#2- If 16 teams qualify and elect to play, no bye. Sometimes #16 says “rather not against the veer.” Have to get through NCS first, then NorCal before state, my friend. Every team has injuries. Man up.
October 27th, 2012 at 11:32 am
Of course the Antioch coach will appeal the suspension because its the QB. If it was anyone else he wouldn’t appeal it. NCS DON’T CHANGE THE ONE GAME SUSPENSION
October 27th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
why did the antioch qb get ejected from the game? also, the ncs should stick to the rules.
October 27th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
The rankings are gonna look so silly next week. Other than dls and logan… I have no idea where teams will be. Only freedom should move up.
October 27th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Spectator- The Antioch coach said over an interview that he is going to appeal the suspension. The Qb got into a fight with a liberty player on the field.
October 27th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
Were they fighjting over the hot stuff?
October 27th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
wow! Alameda won a game!
October 27th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
To all you Alameda fans – They have a sophomore QB, Hernandez, who has the potential to be a true dual threat. He can run like crazy and threw a couple nice passes too. He should be fun to watch in the next few years.
October 27th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Can’t wait to see the polls this week!!!
October 27th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Itsabob, no byes have been handed out yet. They will wait until all the games have been played out. Same with the state bowl selections.
72, I’m pretty sure Cal will move up ahead of MV, and stay ahead of Freedom.
October 27th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
#13. That soph qb @ alameda was groomed by my nephew the jv OC and qb coach. He’ s the real deal and will be a force the next 2 yrs. If alameda was smart they would move my nephew to var OC next yr.
October 27th, 2012 at 7:12 pm
how about them ARROYO DONS THEY DEFENSE IS OFF THE HOOK!
October 27th, 2012 at 8:12 pm
BOD has been in way over their heads since letting go of Coach Turner…
October 27th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Tennyson Lancers! League Champions!
October 27th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Does anybody think that San Leandro would win the WACC Shoreline this year?
October 27th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Antioch QB was ejected on a kick off (he is the kicker)
after pushing a blocker down, blocker gets up (after the whistle and play is over) and throws punches at him… He threw probably 6 punches before the Antioch Qb did anything, more slapping to get him away than anything
It was a set up attempt to get him removed from the game since he is pretty much their entire offense
Next offensive series a Liberty defender was ejected after throwing punches at an Antioch player in the backfield again trying to get retaliation to get them removed
Liberty couldn’t tackle the QB so their answer was to get him removed from the game
Yes the Antioch QB never should have swung back but the official crew was very late to respond… how many punches is he supposed to take before he does something to protect himself?
The ejected Liberty player began bragging right after the play, and again on the field after the game… “I got #4 kicked out! I got him kicked out!”
I lost all respect for the Liberty football program
October 28th, 2012 at 12:10 am
Who think is better Sophomore Qb hernandez from alameda or Sophomore Qb from encinal??????????
October 28th, 2012 at 12:59 am
prep fan,
Cal will move up by default. I only noted freedom because of the solid win over a ranked team.
nya,
Seeing EC ranked so high (not sure if cal and/or freedom will be ranked ahead of them) is starting to worry me. I dont know why, but I’m not gonna sit here and think they’re better than all EBAL/BVAL teams. But def have respect for how EC has powered past all their teams, except for campo..
October 28th, 2012 at 1:04 am
If that liberty/antioch story is true, I’d suspend liberty for the rest of the season if I were on the board of the league, or even the school district board. That’s completely a pathetic tactic and that organization, if not the coaches and players that followed suit, do not deserve to be apart of the game.
October 28th, 2012 at 8:25 am
Berkeley played good D , that athelete # 7 Akil Bordelon had a overall good game, being Berkeleys only Offense, coming into BOD game with 6 Ints in 7 games on Defense. This team struggled all season 0-4, but seems to be getting things, figured out. Their linebackers # 11, and , # 10 Lazuras are healthy now, Excited for Nov. 2nd matchup with CV.
October 28th, 2012 at 8:38 am
Perkin.. I do not think San Leandro beats Tennyson this year. Tennyson has a fast defense.
I saw them at Mt. Eden, and aside from a couple breakdowns they were pretty much impenetrable. However, Tennyson may even go 3-3 in the upper league beating Hayward, Encinal and San Leandro while losing to BOD, Berekly and CV.
Theyre not a bad team, they should be forced to move up though.
October 28th, 2012 at 8:51 am
D3 1-ec 2-mc 3-campo 4-cnewman 5-analy 6-bod 7-miramonte 8-acalanes 9-tennyson 10-novato 11-encinal 12-tam 13-terra linda 14-sonoma 15-hercules 16-eureka
October 28th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Saw SL play Castro Valley a coupe of weeks ago. Good looking athletes. Physical o-line, QB has a whip. No real game breakers other then #2 but they couldn’t seem to get him the ball on O enough. RB’s were tough but coudn’t bust. D physical. Not great tackling. Definitely have never seen a 0-9 team with that kind of talent. 55 is a beast. They play SL’s schedule I think they beat Acalanes & are undefeated.
October 28th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Sorry they play Tennyson’s schedule.
October 28th, 2012 at 11:40 am
@BillJohnson
WHy do you see 3 teams from the DFAL deserve 3 out of the top 8 seeds? Encinal wins this week I see them definitely above Tennyson, Novato, & Acalanes. WACC has no easy games & is tougher from top to bottom then MCAL, WACC Shoreline, & DFAL. There are no easy games for D3 schools in WACC Foothill.
October 28th, 2012 at 11:48 am
perkin ncs loves the ebal & dfal plus most of the panel dont know to much there volleyball coaches or ad’s so they look at records not necessarly strength of schedule.i see the top 6 seeds set the rest who knows.berkeley winning friday would help encinal since they lost to them in overtime but i like castro valley 21-7!
October 28th, 2012 at 1:26 pm
With the Cardinal Newman loss, this is my take at seedings with one weed to go:
1) El Cerrito – Lack of a strong schedule, other than Campo, may drop them to #2
2) Marin Catholic – Just don’t think loss to Vacaville trumps undefeated EC
3) Cardinal Newman – One loss doesn’t hurt unless they lose to a good Casa Grande team
4) Analy – Undefeated league winners eke out top 4 seeding over Campo
5) Campolindo – Looks like Campo will be on the road to Sebastopol in round 2
6) Novato – 2nd place league finish plus losses to quality teams
7) Bishop O’Dowd – Trending downward and might switch with #8 Miramonte
8) Miramonte – A win vs Alhambra might give them 2nd in DFAL & move up to #7?
9) Tennyson – A likely 9-1 record and 1st place finish gets them a home playoff game
10) Acalanes – Loss to Dublin hurt and drops them below Lancers, whom they beat
11) Sonoma Valley – Gets rewarded with 5 wins in a row and 2nd place league finish
12) Encinal – No better than 3rd place league finish-might drop out if they lose Fri.
13) Hercules – Seems about right for a 9-1, 1st place team in the Tri-County Stone
14) Tamalpais – Great start to season; tough finish against Marin Catholic
15) Terra Linda – Lost to Tam
16) Take your pick – Eureka, Petaluma, JFK (Fremont) or Alhambra if they beat Miramonte
October 28th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Wow, amazing how one side will slant something that happened during a game. Having watched both Liberty and Antioch through the year, and gone to the game Friday, I can say the discussion about what happened with the ejection is pretty off-base here. The two players started jawing at midfield, then the Liberty player shoved and head-butted the Antioch QB (one time, not six). The Antioch QB responded with a haymaker, and both of them started throwing punches. Rightfully, they were both ejected. I saw that the Antioch coach wanted to appeal, and he is within his right to do that. I heard people saying that the parents of the kid from Liberty had video, to which they were going to ask their coach to appeal, but I heard later that he was not going to consider that. In the second occurrence, the Liberty kid was ejected for shoving and twisting a face mask after the play. After that play, the Liberty coaches pulled all their players to the sideline and read them a riot act about representing themselves and not pulling that kind of crap. It’s just pathetic that people on here would assume an entire program would be behind something like that, or coaches would be involved. Earlier this year, I saw an Antioch player spike his helmet on the sideline and another toss a water cooler off the bench and towards the field after giving up a score in another BVAL game. Does that mean their coaches encouraged them to behave like that? No. Teenagers do stupid things, and when they are caught, they pay the price. In the case of the Liberty players, they have no shot at play-offs, so both of those kids saw their seasons come to an end when that happened.
October 28th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
novato 6 no way! 2nd place in that league means nothing. every good team novato played beat them by atleast 4td’s.
October 28th, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Dublin beat Acalanes by 3 and SL by 6. Tennyson lost to Acalanes by 7.
Thats all we have to really go by with the SL/Tennyson debate, it would be a close game.
October 28th, 2012 at 2:43 pm
DD,
2 of Novato’s 3 losses are to Cardinal Newman & Marin Catholic and the third is to D1 Foothill, all playoff quality teams. To move them down would be to move Bishop O’Dowd, Miramonte or Tennyson (one, two or all three) ahead of Novato.
O’Dowd’s 3 losses are to arguably to lesser quality teams than who Novato lost to: Valley Christian of San Jose (a good loss), Berkeley & Hayward. Plus, they have lost the last two in a row.
Miramonte lost to three higher ranked D3 teams and a fourth loss to Dublin. But for the Dublin loss they could be the #6 seeded team.
Tennyson’s strength of schedule, despite their 1st place league finish and 9-1 record is not very good. Plus their one loss is to a team I have seeded below them.
Who would you put above Novato and why?
October 28th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
time 2 look in the mirror sports fans
y do u think ur favorite team is losing
1 players not buying in
2 coaching
3 no talent
4 bit off more than they can chew
5just plain badd luck
October 28th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RedandBlue….Good stuff….Unless the Coach at Alhambra can screw the kids heads on straight…i don’t see them beating Miramonte….The Bulldogs have all the tools…but they find ways to waist them….The Cardinal Newman loose to RC looked like it was coming….RC handled Alhambra….but Alhambra gave the game away to CN….the Bulldogs had them on the ropes in the 3rd Q and were behind 28-26 when the Dog’s did their usual thing and blew the game away…
October 28th, 2012 at 3:10 pm
I agree. SL in no way looked like an 0-9 team, talent wise. 75 controls the middle like a monster, 50 is a man among boys and 8 plays with talent and heart! Not sure about anything involving the coaches, but they have talent no doubt…..
October 28th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
no big deal on the Liberty game- they have done worse.
They had a greased pig contest before the season started. Are those players still playing or were they suspended for the season.
October 28th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Football is a team sport. SL is 0-9, so they are not talented this year. They don’t get cudos for a couple of good players. There’s no cudos at 0-9. You as a coaching staff fold up your tent and prepare to make changes- including coaching changes Mr. AD.
October 28th, 2012 at 4:03 pm
yo mama u seem 2 have plenty of knowledge
who’s ur top 5 worst coaches and ur top 5 best
everyone feel free 2 join in but please dont hurt anyones feelings AND REMEMBER EVERYONE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN LMAO
October 28th, 2012 at 4:48 pm
BigDog – those players were suspended for the season. The suspended players even sent a petition around school to try to get reinstated, but the staff and administration did not revisit the issue. One of them was an underclassman, though, so he can probably play next year.
October 28th, 2012 at 4:53 pm
Top 5 best coaches
1. Sweeney – every year at Foothill, regardless of talent level. Love the blue collar, jeans approach.
2. Lad – could be #1, but so much admiration for Sweeney. Lad has created blueprint for all . . .
3. Sira – Same story as Sweeney, no matter the talent or competition, finds a way to get it done at Amador.
4. Murphy – on fire at Clayton, might be the perfect storm of talent, coaching with new scheme, and ability to bring in more kids with charter designation
5. Galli – does it so consistently at Pitt, despite the challenges that come with so many kids who struggle academically and an admin that is always on his back
Won’t name bottom 5 . .. no reason to try to take stabs and people who basically volunteer their time for high school kids . . .
October 28th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Props to Galli and the Pitt Pirates! Indeed the one of the top coaches in NCS. They’re coming into the playoffs with the right maturity and strength. Watch their new star RB Harris Ross. He’s got the speed of Jamal Lockett, their no. 1 RB and the power build of their No.1 power runner, Manafee. Great combination. He’ll make the big difference come playoffs.
October 28th, 2012 at 5:20 pm
EB jc GUY
volunteers
r u saying they r glorified baby sitter
with a license 2 yell
make rash decision that may effect the outcome of the child’s future… SAY IT ANIT SO
I THINK THERE SHOULD B A STANDARD TEST OF BASIC FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE I DONT THINK U SHOULD HAVE COMPLETE MORONS MOLDING OUR KIDS IT DOESNT HAPPEN IN THE CLASS ROOM SHOULDNT HAPPEN ON THE FIELD … just my opinion dont none of u get ur panties in a bunch
October 28th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
rednblue novato would lose to berkeley and hayward
October 28th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
rednblue Novato gets no love for those losses because they got blown out in every one. Good losses are close losses to good teams.
October 28th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
chalktalk clearly you either took too many hits to the head while playing football, otherwise you would MAKE SOME SENSE “n nawt ryte lyk dis”
October 28th, 2012 at 8:45 pm
WTFFFF
VERY FUNNY impressive u speak my language
so clearly u understand
HAVE U TAKING THE MENSA TEST YET
I.Q. BOY
October 28th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
Miramonte and Novato have 1 common opponent, MC. Mira was 14-17 at the end of the third quarter when Anderson went out. Novato was 7-49 with a running clock.
October 28th, 2012 at 9:23 pm
Brandon Crawford: Tri-Valley Babe Ruth, Foothill QB/SS Alumnus, EBAL grad…World Series Champion Giant.
October 28th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Chalk Talk . . . actually I would agree with every point you made. They do not have a license to yell at kids, the best coaches do not, and do not have to, because their kids understand the expectations from it being molding into them on a daily basis. And a basic football test would be a great idea. The NCS has free classes and tests that coaches have to pass now in order to coach, they should add a sport knowledge certification to the requirements. I, too, have seen many poor coaches who get there simply by elbow-rubbing the head coach or an athletic director. Exists that way at high school, juco, four-year college, professional, and down to youth levels. Also agree on rash decisions – those kind of decisions are never made by a good coach or staff. The best decisions happen behind closed doors with a thoughtful staff. Why DLS, Foothill, etc top that list of best staffs and head coaches.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:07 am
DD,
Seedings don’t deal with hypotheticals, only with the facts at hand. If you think Novato should drop, give me reasons why and the teams that should be higher.
EBfootball, same deal. My opinion is you can’t make the case Miramonte, Bishop O’Dowd, or Tennyson should have a better seed than Novato, regardless of how much they loss by.
Guru,
Did you really give a 3rd quarter score as some sort of justification? The final score was 31-14 MC over Miramonte. Do you really think the seeding committee breaks down games by quarter or plays the “what if” game regarding injuries?
I may or may not be proven wrong next Sunday, but at least I give proper justification.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:16 am
what do you mean by rash decisions? Like cutting a kid? I dont understand
October 29th, 2012 at 12:18 am
Ok Chalktalk, here’s my picks
1. Lad
2. Edison
3. Aliotti
4. Alumbaugh
5. Panella
6. Ward
I will get lots of comments on this. That enough to wet yur whistle or pants?
October 29th, 2012 at 7:05 am
Red & Blue,
The Final scores are justification enough, Novato lost to MC by 42 with a running clock in the 4th quarter while Mira lost by 17.
Mira lost by 21 to 8-1 Campo.
Novato lost by 43 to 5-4 Foothill with a running clock again in the 4th quarter.
Mira lost by 7 to a 10-0 Analy.
Novato lost by 28 getting shutout by 8-1 CN. At least they avoided the running clock.
Mira biggest win is against Acalanes which is being considered for the same 6-10 Div seeding.
Novato biggest win is a against a top seed Div IV Justin-Senna. While a good win for Novato, I don’t think victories against lower divisions should be considered. Only same division or higher.
The first one is the biggest advantage, the next three are minor, yet they do slightly favor Mira over Novato.
Correct me if I am wrong, but your only justification of seeding Novato ahead of Mira is that Mira lost to Dublin, a Div II playoff qualifier?
October 29th, 2012 at 8:31 am
Chalk- team not winning: alameda. There are a few players that were not buying in and being selfish individuals. The team experienced some bad luck with injuries to some keys players, and some horrible officiating in the Piedmont and Mt. Eden game(check the photo finish). Alameda battled Encinal, but gave the game away in one play with 50 seconds left. Tough season for the Hornets.
October 29th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Guru,
I believe the seeding committee values the final record as much as anything else. Novato will likely finish 7-3 and Miramonte 6-4, assuming they each win this weekend. That’s why I say if Miramonte had defeated Dublin, they would be the #6 seed.
Anyways, it’s just one man’s opinion. If I’m wrong it wouldn’t be the first time.
October 29th, 2012 at 8:54 am
eb jc guy
well put i wish i could right like that
October 29th, 2012 at 9:01 am
Glad it’s rivalry week! I’m old school Pittsburg, and unlike most people now I love owning Antioch! Oh ya, thanks for ruining the BLG rivalry Antioch by sucking the last 20 years. Don’t give that “we have Deer Valley now” crap. Have a sack Antioch! Oh I’m sorry, if you had sack you’d be from Pittsburg!
October 29th, 2012 at 9:07 am
Any comments on coaches having their own son’s playing or even the son’s of team parents playing when they may not be the best choice for a particular position? This can be really disruptive for morale.
October 29th, 2012 at 9:30 am
Redandblue2:
One wild card in your D3 seedings is if BOD gets their QB back this week and they are anything like they were before his injury, they beat SL and are an easy 6 seed. Otherwise, I think you are spot on.
October 29th, 2012 at 9:39 am
Whoever thinks hercules has the TCAL STONE in the bag could be in for a surprise this Friday when they face Kennedy-Richmond
This should be a pretty good game, no telling who might win! Both teams are undefeated!
October 29th, 2012 at 9:40 am
Red&Blue2 & FB Guru,
I’ve been reading you’re posts and just had to weigh-in on D3. I agree with Red&Blue2 that I don’t think the seeding committee will look at quarterly breakdowns. Actually, I don’t think they will look very much at injuries, order of victories or severity of win/loss unless dramatic (i.e. overtime, running clock, etc.). Obviously, some things will effect their thinking unofficially:
1. Marin Catholic – They have the best win in St. Ignatius and their loss is to a team that is higher rated than anyone that El Cerrito has played. I don’t see a big controversy; Marin Catholic #1.
2. El Cerrito – Very good win against Campo, good wins against Newark Memorial and Salesian, worthwile win against Valley Christian. All in all, great season, but not challenging enough for #1.
3. Cardinal Newman – Loss to Ranch wouldn’t hurt them much if they had better wins. Currently best win is Novato. After that its pretty pedestrian. Even with win over Casa, which would be their biggest win of the season, I would put them at #3 and a loss would drop them down to #5.
4. Campo – All-in-all great season, but ironically their best win is Miramonte. Sacred Heart Cathedral win now just doesn’t look that great. Other DFAL wins look pretty mediocre.
5. Analy – Only good win Miramonte, rest are cupcakes.
6. BOD – I don’t see any question here. They have wins over high-rated Castro Valley and tough Mack. Their worst loss is to Hayward…OK that’s pretty bad, but I’d still give them the nod for #6. Loss against weak San Leandro (which is possible) could drop them to #10!
7. Novato – Only significant win is Justin-Siena and frankly given Justin-Siena’s win’s I don’t see how they are rated as high as they are. As has been stated their three losses are pretty bad blow-outs. I’m not saying I agree, but given all their losses are to very good teams, I think the seeding folks will give the nod to the better record and not focus to much on the details of their defeat.
8. Miramonte – Four losses is a killer, especially loss to Dublin. Unofficially, Miramonte probably gets some extra credit for playing all teams while firing on all cylinders (that is, Stephens at QB with Campo and Rudolph in the backfield against Dublin) and doing it with 2nd string QB. But officially a loss is a loss. Best win is Acalanes
9. Acalanes – Miramonte has direct win over Acalanes. Also, strip-out forfeit and they are 6-3; they have same number of wins and one less loss. Acalanes’ best win unique win is Tennyson that is lower rated then Miramontes win over Acalanes. Camparing losses, cancel out common losses, you are left with Acalanes’ loss to Miramonte versus Miramontes loss to Analy…clearly Miramonte lost to a higher rated team. That leaves Miramontes loss to Marin Catholic – big deal.
10. Tennyson – Hard to rate with likely 9-1 record over poor teams. Only win against team with positive Freman rating is 17-10 win aver 3.4 rated Arroyo. Weak teams and direct loss to Acalanes seeds them at #10.
11. Encinal – Probably good enough to beat Tennyson, but with 5 losses, maybe 6 after Hayward game, above #11 is hard to justify vs 9-1 team.
12. Tam – With losses to Novato, Justin-Siena and San Marin (ouch!) and pending loss to Marin Catholic, not much to talk about.
One footnote in all this: Give the above ratings, #7 Novato would be away at #10 Tennyson (league champs) and #8 Miramonte/#9 Acalanes would be a re-do. I’m curious if the seeding committee will use Tennyson’s 9-1 record as an excuse to move Tennyson up to #8 dropping Miramonte to #9, Acalanes to #10. Now, Novato at home against Acalanes and Tennyson at home against Miramonte. No repeats, Tennyson will get a home game regardless of their seeding due to league champion deisgnation. Acalanes gets kind-of screwed since they trade being “away” at Miramonte with really be AWAY at Novato. Miramonte losses a home game, but is only away at Tennyson. Just a tought.
October 29th, 2012 at 9:55 am
This is all good banter for us, but the calpreps rankings takes everything and more into consideration so I would like to see NCS just adopt that system as it’s official seeding committee and dump the three member panel that won’t be identified. No way to tell if there are hidden agendas with the current system.
October 29th, 2012 at 10:59 am
Don’t do it Miraman. Come on buddy. Your playing into Smith & all the other B league coaches. The guy said that the A league is 6 by far superior programs that I cannot compete with. The guy felt he couldn’t even play in a competitive game with most of the schools. Give him nothing for his 9-1 playing one better then average Acalanes team & losing. Acalanes in turn should get nothing out of beating Tennyson.
You are a man about athletes you said it before. Superior athlets. Encinal played 6 DIV I SCHOOL( believe more then the entire DIII field combined) 2 DII schools, & 2 very good DIII schools. You have to believe that out of those 6 DI’s 4-5 teams have better athletes then any DIII school in the field from top too bottom. Not better coached just BIgger, Stronger , Faster. Hayward does for sure I’ve seen them live.
Don’t make the Coaches at Acalanes & Tennyson right for playing nobody & giving them a high seed. Novato he played 3 good teams & beat 6 avereage teams so far. But he tested himself. So did BOD. So did Miramonte. Respect that not a hollow 9-1.
October 29th, 2012 at 11:05 am
Encinal wins Friday I think no doubt above Acalanes, NOvato, & Tennyson. Better wins. Stronger schedule. Period. 7 Miramonte 8 Encinal 9 Acalanes 10 Novato 11 Tennyson(like B league team with their non-league & wins deserve & a game against BOD at home.)
October 29th, 2012 at 11:15 am
Perkin –
You mean Hayward with their 24 man roster? I was at the O’Dowd game. With those numbers, why wasn’t Hayward afraid to play the A league?
I’m pretty sure Tennyson has more numbers than them or Encinal.
Why was Smith afraid to play the A league when Encinal wasn’t?
If Tennyson gets a top 10 seed, why shouldn’t every team in the bay area copy their plan for success?
Better yet, have SL move down to the B league next year and pull Tennyson up. That should be the reward for all their hard work.
October 29th, 2012 at 11:23 am
Encinal is better then everybody expect cardinal newmen , marin catholic , campo , El cerito ,they should really be at 5th spot no doubt. Encinal is going to win this week and they better then anly and miramonte and everybody else BOD got really lucky against encinal. Encinal shoulda won the game.
October 29th, 2012 at 11:39 am
Perkin,
Encinal played 3 D1 school, 3 D2 schools, 2 D3 schools and 2 D4 schools this season. Still the 3 D1 schools are more than any other D3 team played this season and they are 3-2 against the D1 & D2 schools with Hayward still to go.
If they defeat Hayward, I now agree with you they will move up in the D3 seedings and get rewarded for their schedule.
October 29th, 2012 at 11:45 am
Why did Hayward drop Tennyson from their schedule? To play ygnacio valley?
October 29th, 2012 at 11:48 am
You might be looking at another school.
D1 B-HIgh, SL, CV, Vallejo(2300 enrollment), Serra(private but section status designates them D1 defending d1 champs), Rodriguez(enrollment 2200),
D2 Hayward, Alameda.
D3 BOD, Apotos(d3 1397 enrollment), (Castlemont? 1100)
October 29th, 2012 at 11:52 am
Same with BOD: SHC & Valley Christian are designated D-III by their section. So it would count towards D-III win loss record.
Same with MC: Thought St. Ignatius’s was D-1 but are designated D-III by section. Counts as a d-III win.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
i dont know how good anyones is or how bad they r but u can tell by the consistence game play who’s a good coach or not
A GOOD COACH DOESNT BLAME THE KID
CUZ A GOOD COACH GETS THE CANCER OFF THE FIELD
i havent seen any team that didnt have enuff athletes 2 win the football game
I GOING 2 REMIND PEOPLE THIS IS NOT POP WARNER WERE KIDS GET MANDATORY PLAYING TIME some kids have a shot at a free education and maybe more other are just happy 2 have on a uniform, which is fine. BUT PLEASE DONT PUT THAT KID OR A COACH IN A POSITION 2 WIN OR LOSE THE GAME IF THEY HAVENT PUT IN THE WORK
” UR WORK IS UR FAITH”
October 29th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Perkin,
First of all, I’m not making a value judgement here, I’m just trying to anticipate what the seeding committee will do. As mentioned, my assumption is that they will not get into the weeds like most of us would. Win/loss record is certainly the easiest thing to weigh.
Also, I gave it another look and I certainly see a strong case for Encinal over Tennyson and an airtight case IF Encinal beats Hayward this week. Then Encinal will have wins over Aptos, San Leandro and Hayward that are all as good or better than Tennyson’s Arroyo victory. But do remember, the Encinal loss to a weak Rodriguez team also has be considered. Tennyson has no such loss.
Beyond that, I can’t come very close to seeing Encinal moving up above Acalanes or Novato. Both have beaten better teams than Encinal has and both have more victories over all.
By the way, I have a great deal of respect for what Encinal has done this year and think they will be a tough draw for someone. At #10 you would go up to Novato and I think have an excellent chance of beating them. I think Encinal is a problematic match-up for Novato stopping their running game and likely taking them late in the game in a low-scoring affair. But whatever happens in seeding, I don’t see a home game in “the swamp” for the Jets.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:35 pm
If any of the top 6 teams in D3 are smart they’d rank Encinal in the top 8. They don’t want to risk an upset with the way Encinal has been playing defense. And their offense may have started to click in that San Leandro win. BOD probably doesn’t want to see them again (game was very close). And there’s way too much history with CN, MC, and EC to risk it all in the first round. Campo’s not scared but this isn’t their first tourney. Rumor has it that some players are back coming back because grades just came out. Coaches ranking probably means the most next to head to head and strength of schedule.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:49 pm
EBfootball,
I think you are 1/2 right. Some of the top teams probably don’t match up well with Encinal. I think teams that rely alot on the run (CN, O’Dowd, Novato, Acalanes), but I think teams with strong passing attacks (Campo, Miramonte) or good balanced attack (Analy, Marin Catholic, El Cerrito) will eat Encinal alive.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Jimmy Durkin, are there any EB rushing stats for top rushers this season so far?
October 29th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
72,
EC can only play their schedule, they can’t play every team in the rankings, but the teams they have played have gotten destroyed. Campo would have faced the same fate if not for 4 int’s in the 1st half. The playoffs will show who is real & who is fake…
October 29th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
@Mira… Yeah those teams will be favored to beat Encinal but are they willing to bet their first round on it? Those teams deserve a cupcake first round and they know Encinal will be a battle after they’ve banged with DI and private schools all season.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Why is the loss to Rodriguez so bad for a d3 school? DOes Rodriguez play in a d3 league & are horrible. They are a bad d1 team that loses to all d1′s & d2′s like Vacaville.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
@Hoodboy #74: Can’t and won’t confirm it, but the Hayward-Tennyson game was originally scheduled the first week of the season @ Tennyson as priginally agreed. Hayward afterwards asked if they can have the game moved to Sunset as a home game for them and Tennyson refused. So Hayward decided to pull out of the game and that’s when they scheduled Ygnacio Valley at Sunset. I’m not sure when this was done though.
October 29th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Encinal is a young team Soph QB and 1 senior RB and 1 freshmen RB and 1 Junior RB and the line is 1 senior and 1 Freshmen and 2 Soph and 1 junior that a young line and 1 SOPH WR and 1 junior WR thats a young squad rite there there defence is based on Juniors and freshmen and soph there going to kill it next year even tho i hate encinal there going to be really good.
October 29th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
N-Ya,
Regarding your statement Campo would have been destroyed……….
You bring up the 4 balls Campo picked in the first half and yet you don’t bring up the fact Campo fumbled twice inside their 35 yard line. Both El Cerrito’s scores happened on short fields. Three of El Cerrito’s interceptions happened on Campo’s side of the field. El Cerrito punted 6 times in the game. Campo held El Cerrito to 16 points; the other 8 games they are averaging 53 points.
Bottom line N-Ya, Campo played a great defensive game against El Cerrito. Oh by the way, only a missed 4th quareter field by Campo enabled El Cerrito to walk off with the 16-14 victory.
Were you even at the game?
October 29th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
If Campo and EC are so good petition up to div 1 next year.
October 29th, 2012 at 3:49 pm
So Cal top 25
latimes.com
The Times’ high school football rankings
A look at the top 25 teams in the Southland.
Eric Sondheimer
October 29, 2012
It’s the final week of the regular season and there are two huge games Friday matching top 10 teams: No. 8 El Toro at No. 4 Mission Viejo and No. 10 Santa Margarita at No. 5 St. John Bosco.
Rank, School, Division (Record), Last week, Next game (Previous rank)
1. VISTA MURRIETA Inland (9-0); Def. Murrieta Mesa, 52-0. Next: vs. Chaparral, Friday. (1)
2. NARBONNE CIty D-I (9-0); Def. Washington, 62-3. Next: vs. Gardena, Friday (2)
3. ST. BONAVENTURE Pac-5 (8-1); Def. Royal, 56-7. Next: at Oaks Christian, Friday (3)
4. MISSION VIEJO Pac-5 (9-0); Def. Trabuco Hills, 35-12. Next: vs. El Toro, Friday (4)
5. ST. JOHN BOSCO Pac-5 (5-4). Def. Servite, 39-13. Next: vs. Santa Margarita, Friday (5)
6. CORONA CENTENNIAL Inland (8-1); Def. Eastvale Roosevelt, 58-14. Next: at Corona Santiago, (6)
7. UPLAND Inland (9-0); Def. Alta Loma, 49-7. Next: vs. Etiwanda, Friday (7)
8. EL TORO Pac-5 (9-0). Did not play. Next: at Mission Viejo, Friday (9)
9. MATER DEI Pac-5 (7-2). Def. Orange Lutheran, 32-21. Next: vs. Servite at Angel Stadium, Friday (10)
10. SANTA MARGARITA Pac-5 (8-1); Def. JSerra, 42-0. Next: at St. John Bosco, Friday (11)
11. LOMPOC Western (9-0); Def. Nipomo, 58-13. Next: vs. Lompoc Cabrillo, Friday (12)
12. CRENSHAW City D-I (8-1); Def. West Adams, (forfeit). Next: at Manual Arts, Friday (13)
13. OAKS CHRISTIAN Pac-5 (8-1); Def. Moorpark, 55-7. Next: vs. St. Bonaventure, Friday (14)
14. CHAMINADE Western (8-1); Def. St. Francis, 42-14. Next: vs. Cathedral, Friday (16)
15. EDISON Southwest (8-1); Def. Def. Fountain Valley, 21-3. Next: at Huntington Beach, Friday (17)
16. TUSTIN Southwest (9-0); Def. Western, 82-7. Next: vs. La Palma Kennedy, Thursday (18)
17. ALEMANY Pac-5 (7-2); Lost to Crespi, 29-27. Next: vs. Loyola at Valley College, Friday
18. BISHOP AMAT Pac-5 (7-1-1;) Def. Loyola, 30-20. Next: vs. Sherman Oaks Notre Dame, Friday (19)
19. LA MIRADA Southeast (7-1); Did not play. Next: vs. Mayfair, Friday (19)
20. RANCHO CUCAMONGA Inland (7-2); Def. Los Osos, 24-10. Next: vs. Alta Loma at Los Osos, Thursday (21)
21. GARDENA SERRA Western (7-2); Def. St. Paul, 53-6. Next: vs. Harvard-Westlake, Friday (22)
22. SHERMAN OAKS NOTRE DAME Pac-5 (6-3); Did not play. Next: at Bishop Amat, Friday (24)
23. LA SERNA Southeast (8-1); Def. Santa Fe, 31-3. Next: at California, Friday (25)
24. CRESPI Pac-5 (8-2); Def. Alemany, 29-27. Next: Bye. (NR)
25. HART Northern (7-2); Lost to Valencia, 31-20. Next: vs. CC Canyon at College of the Canyons, Friday
–Eric Sondheimer
Copyright © 2012, Los Angeles Times
October 29th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Lots of lemons-to-lemondade talk going on.
Raidernaition,
You sure sound like a Jet fan! Of course Encinal has underclassmen playing, they have a small program. Other programs have lots of good underclassmen also, but they toil away on frosh and JV until they are ready! Trivia question: Who is the last freshman to play varsity for Miramonte? Its a trick question. Freshman aren’t allowed to play varsity…at least not as long as I have been around the program. Not even stand on the sideline. Sophomores are rarely on varstiy either. Even very good sophomores play JV unless there is a dire need. Last year Stehr got moved up to play line…the only sophomore to play varsity. This year zero sophomores on varsity.
N-Ya,
You would have had a blowout if you hadn’t thrown four picks?!?!?! Well then don’t throw four picks! Wait, doesn’t that mean you have a substandard QB that is not befitting of a top notch team? Or maybe your receivers just suck at running pass routes! Either way, that qualifies as one of the lamest excuses I’ve ever heard!
October 29th, 2012 at 3:54 pm
Monte Vista lost their ebal minus DeLa title hopes. Can’t help but think that branding the mustangs took at the hands of DLS contributed to their loss to AV. However, AV has been known to upset in the past and come back this year.
October 29th, 2012 at 4:11 pm
EBfootball what defence are you talking about for the Jets?
They gave up 21 points a 0-9 team.
The Jets have given up 67 more points than they have scored
Then there is all this talk about the Jets SOS (13.4) well BOD(15.8) and Alhambra (15.2)had higher. Novato’s wasn’t so bad either (12.2) in the so called weak MCAL.
SO when you actually look at the numbers a 5-5 Encinal team should be the 10th or 11th seed and if they lose to Hayward and finish 4-6 they should be 13th or 14th seed.
The match ups that favor the Jets are the teams that cannot stop the run , Novato ,CN ,MC shut the Jets out because they cannot pass
http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/encinal-jets-(alameda,ca)/football/stats.htm
October 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm
nya,
I get what you’re saying, I really do. And I would probably say the same thing as the comments did after your remark. But the reason why I made my comment about EC was because last week you were begging for a reason for why MV didn’t drop in rankings, and you even stated that EC should be #2. And now youre expecting MV to drop. That’s cool and all because it helps you guys, but if you have confidence that EC would beat all of the ebal/bval teams then maybe I’d be more ok with giving EC a spot above all the others.
October 29th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
@Bleacher Coach, Yes we did give up the points no doubt but the Defense Woke up and pretty much shut them down in the second half. We have for the most part been playing pretty good defense. Just up till this game have not been as productive as we like on Offense But it looks like things are coming together. Stats are not always the story my friend. Lets see what the seedings are when they come out. Right now it is all just guesswork. Jet Pride!
October 29th, 2012 at 5:19 pm
@MiraMan, We play who we play. If we had more upper classmen we would play them I’m sure you already know that. The kids are doing well. Jet Pride!
October 29th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
I too believe Ec would’ve blown campo out not only 4 int’s but over 12 penalties ec played a terrible game but give credit to campo defense played stellar …..ec could’ve lost that game but all in all to overcome 4 int’s and 12 penalties on the road against a champion that’s a pretty good win….more than likely and it depends on seeding Ec would have home field advantage against most teams and I like their chances at Ec should be interesting cant wait.
October 29th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
ec better hope they avoid the 2 catholic schools til the finals.
October 29th, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Seen SL. Seen Novato. SL plays Novato schedule they have same record. Beating SL is as good as beating Novato.
October 29th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
MiraMan,
You made the case for me, all 4 int’s happened deep in Campo’s field. Poor play calling & not using all the playmakers they have(EC) allowed for Campo to hang around. All Campo’s pts came off turnovers.
October 29th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
YoMomma & 72,
EC is not a D1 school, they just happen to have a very nice squad! This years team would give any team around these parts a run for their money!!! EC is the Money Mayweather out here, but you want him to fight Tyson huh?!? Pound for pound EC is a force to be reckoned with!!!
October 29th, 2012 at 8:30 pm
The rankings aren’t supposed to be pound for pound or there would be more D4 & D5 teams listed. The NCS seedlings are pound for pound, but this poll is supposed to represent the strength of each team, i.e. who would win head to head. If you think EC would run the table in the EBAL, then they should be #2. If not, they should be behind teams that would beat them and ahead of teams they’d beat.
October 29th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Bleacher Coach,
Actually the Jets are already 5-5. Maxpreps is a thing of the past…
October 29th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
MiraMan,
EC and Encinal would be the perfect game.
October 29th, 2012 at 9:04 pm
MiraMan,
Encinal played 6 Division 1 teams. That says it all. However, to add to it, Tennyson is in a inferior league, the was the reason behind competitive equity leagues. They asked for this. To reward them would be highly controversial. MiraMan, they already bowed down months before the season started.
October 29th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
So if Encinal loses and Alhambra loses this week, would they still make playoffs? What teams would potentially slide into the playoffs?
October 29th, 2012 at 9:25 pm
@prep fan & nya
prep fan, i couldn’t have said it any better.
October 29th, 2012 at 9:43 pm
You Encinal fans think you’re good because you beat an 0-8 San Leandro team? You people need help if you think that teams should be scared of your weak team now that you have a lousy 4 wins. Nobody cares about you playing “6 D1 schools” All of the top 8 or 9 teams would beat you in D.3.
October 29th, 2012 at 10:09 pm
@ManDown, We’ve always thought our team good even if this is a down year. We’ve lost a couple of games we should’ve won. I believe we’ll make a good showing but these are not Encinal Fans making the seeding statements. And Mandown,what is with all the hate? You a San Leandro Alun? We are supposed to think we’ll win every game we play. I guess you would have us give up before taking the field? That is why you play the game.. To see who will win. Jet Pride!
October 29th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Mrs. Han are you slow the Jets are 4-5 with 1 game to go vs. Hayward which they could very well lose.
In regard to the 6 DIV I teams big deal that is why there is SOS (strength of schedule) .
Perkins what Novato game did you see ? Game 0 vs. Foothill? I know you didn’t drive out to Marin.
I doubt SL finishes with a winning record even if they played Novato’s schedule. SL got blown out by 4 teams they had no business playing after going 6-5 last season.
I agree with Mandown the Jets get shot down in the first round
October 29th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
@BleacherCoach, No we’re 5 and 5 right now. North Coast credited us with the forfeit from Castlemont. And i think you and mandown will be wrong. Is there a need to put people down because they have a difference of opinion however misguided YOU might think it is? Jet Pride!
October 29th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
So SL put up 21 on Encinal. SL also put up multiple TD’s on Deer Valley, Castro Valley and Dublin. Strength of schedule is determined by playing schools with good reputations AND bigger schools. Nobody else in D3 (besides BOD and maybe CN) has consistently competed against schools that have the size, strength, and speed the schools Encinal has played in the regular season. You also have to get some wins against these schools and the Jets have. A win against Hayward will solidify this.
October 30th, 2012 at 8:54 am
Old Former MC,
You better hope not, if a team has more that 10 games to their credit they will be ineligible for the NCS playoffs. Never seen it happen in football, but it has happened often in other NCS sports where teams have exceeded the maximum allowed games. Don’t worry though, once Encinal scheduled Vallejo they lost the right to claim a forfeited win against Castlemont. They are 4-5.
October 30th, 2012 at 9:31 am
Obviously Encinal is having a down year. The program cannot be expected to dominate year in and year out with such a small base. This year is a year that all these kids get great experience, and next year they will shine. Tenorio will teach these kids his offense more and more. The play book is small this year for obvious reasons. As these kids grow so will the play book. Anyone who doubts his coaching ability should get checked out….Island Chief?
Miraman….you act like its some kind of badge of honor that underclassmen arent allowed on varsity? You could have used a couple talented freshmen and Sophmores last year when The Jets were running off about 90 unanswered points against Miramonte, right? Remember that? …..when you stopped posting for a couple weeks after the game?
October 30th, 2012 at 9:43 am
EBPF, Yes, Miramonte was over-matched against Encinal in last years NCS game. The final was 48-14. It would be a better game this year.
October 30th, 2012 at 10:14 am
Bleacher my man I like to go to a couple of Novato games a year. Great Tri-tip sandwhiches. Been following their program since they dismantled Miramonte at the Coliseum. Had to make sure I had the skinny on North Bay football since they combined with NCS.
I have to say this years team has a pretty solid group of athletes. Good size for a d3 school. #20 is a stud should play D more(I didn’t notice him the games I went too he may start). #5 good speed lil sketchy hands #8 & #55 solid on the d-line. #23 good football player at FS. #7 QB sophmore. Good moxy. Descent arm. Can make a play with his feet if need be. Can complete a pass. I see weightroom on their team(which I stopped seeing after 09. 2008 whole team was ripped.) This team shouldn’t be getting blown out my MC & CN. They can match both athlete for athlete. Probably better then CN. Things haven’t been the same since Coach Glenn left. Bracket great coach. But he takes water breaks on defense. Since he’s had kids & started his crossfit business I don’t think he’s as dedicated.
Now when I say Novato has good size for D3 SL has good size for D1. Big physical line. Blew Encinal players 15 yards off the ball at times. Fit & pinned guys a few times. Aggressive hard hitting team. Skill athlets are pretty even( the major difference your gonna see from D1 to D3 is line & depth). #7 a sophmore also better arm & wheels. I don’t see Novato’s guy breaking for a TD on Encinal.#2 has speed. He needs the ball more. FS number #6 is a better athlete then #23. Those morons should have thrown him the ball he had 2 INTs. #23 smash mouth runner. Too many good O-line man & D-lineman too mention but like I said that is the diffence D1 to D3.
Go to check some of these teams out Bleacher. CV, SL, Vallejo was huge. I heard Rodriguez had the best athletes the Jets faced all year. You will see the diffence from them & all these D3 schedules definitely different from the MCAL. I think what the JEts are doing is amazing. Offense actually came around this week. Nobody mentions it but Encinal is beat up? A lot of injuries. But no complaining out of their camp. Just keep playing no excuses. Beat Hayward who is loaded 7 or 8 seed becasue Hayward beat BOD the 6 seed & would beat Acalanes. Miramonte best win. Aptos is a better win then Justin Siena.
October 30th, 2012 at 11:16 am
PERKIN, Get past Hayward then start talking about playoffs but until then you guys are 4-5 and could end up 4-6 if you are focused on next week. Tell your sophmore quarterback to complete a pass to give your offense a chance to be decent! One TD pass and one rushing all year is not going to get it done against the good division 3 teams. Keep dreaming Jets and get ready for next year.
October 30th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
ManDown- That sophmore Qb is alright he’s doing good at QB for a sophmore and I think he’s one of the best sophmore Qb’s in the bay area. 1)El Cerrito 2)Marin Catholic 3) Cardinal Newmen 4)Campolindo 5)Anly 6)BOD 7)Tennyson 8)Miramonte 9)Acalanes 10)Encinal 11)Hercules 12)Novoto 13)Tamalpais 14)Sonoma Valley 15)Terra Linda 16)Eureka
October 30th, 2012 at 12:55 pm
@FB Guru, U r right and i had it wrong. ManDown, If we have to get ready for next season early so be it but i don’t think so. Lets play the game first and If you happen to be right you can go run ya tab up at the Tavern and brag to the boys. Jet Pride!
October 30th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Does Encinals win against Aptos count as a D3 win?
October 30th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Amen to that. Gotta beat Hayward 1st Jets. Not gonna be easy.
October 30th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
EB Prep Fan,
I did quit posting last year after Miramonte lost. Well that is after I congratulated Old Former Meddling Coach who I’d be jawing at on the victory. Other than that I didn’t have much to say. I find that people that do a lot of talking after a loss just end up making excuses. Plus, I’m a sore loser! Besides, as you yourself point out, I didn’t post for several weeks. That includes the week after you got pasted by Marin Catholic, what 45-6!
Miramonte has a tradition of only playing juniors and seniors on varsity. The key word there is TRADITION. I’m told Encinal folks understand that word. When some kid (he blogs like a kid) says Encinal will be great because they “…play this guy that a freshman and play this guy thats a sophomore…” I feel it fair to point out that other teams, Miramonte included, have our share of underclass talent, but the rules are different so you are unlikely to have seen them. Frankly, some of the underclassmen you have playing varsity would be much better served to get some frosh/JV experience this year. But the coaches have to move kids up to fill the holes.
Finally, to be clear to all the Encinal seeding comments, any of the D3 teams with strong passing games will likely cut you to pieces. Analy, Miramonte, Campo, Marin Catholic, O’Dowd (w/QB back)… Most of the teams mentioned would drop 40+ points on you. Far from being concerned about meeting Encinal this year, I would love for Miramonte to meet Encinal in the first round. It seems like a match-up nightmare for Encinal and could turn into a track meet. In general, perhaps because you’ve faced some mediocre D1 run-oriented teams, I think you underestimate the quality of the teams you will face in the playoffs, especially some of the passing attacks that will stay away from trying to run against your stout D-line.
October 30th, 2012 at 8:19 pm
What team has Encinal faced this year that proves they can’t defend the pass? Alameda had been a passing school but chose to run. All running schools so far.
October 30th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
MiraMan,
How articulate. But i disagree. Not BOD. Not Miramonte. All those teams are good.
October 30th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
This is too funny. Everybody saying the Gauchos barely got by Campo and hope they can prove it in the playoffs. Did you say that about Campo last year? If memory serves Campo snuck out of EC with a 16-14 or 16-13 win last year on their way to the state game. And that was a EC team loaded with 10th & 11th graders. The same kids that are burning up field turf all over the east bay now as 11th and 12th graders. Public school in a high risk area with a minority coaching staff = no respect
October 30th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
I can’t understand how Encinal fans get on here and still talk. If Encinal was in the B league they would lose to half of the league.We barely lost to Encinal on a missed tackle so really how good are they?
October 30th, 2012 at 9:16 pm
island chief you lost to piedmont! northgate & miramonte bent you over! mt.eden broke your hearts on sr. night. kemper asked to be in the b league because thats the kinda man he is. loser as a player loser now! bring back the rock!
October 30th, 2012 at 9:20 pm
WELCOME TO THE ROCK! damn i miss hearing that.
October 30th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
#117
Why Eureka? They have beaten a 2-7, 3-7 and 1-8 teams. What makes them more eligible than Petaluma who has beaten 3-6(twice), 1-8, 0-9 or Kennedy- Fremont who have beaten 5-4, 4-5, 4-5, 1-8. Even Terra Linda has not done much better.
October 31st, 2012 at 9:50 am
Go back and read some of my posts Gauchowatcher. I stated on more than one occasion that the 2011 game with El Cerrito was Campo’s toughest game of the season, up to the State Championship game. Clearly, this year’s game with Campolindo was El Cerrito’s toughest of the season.
If in fact El Cerrito and Campo get the #2 & #3 seeds, respectively, they will perhaps meet again (thankfully at De Anza’s field) for a third time in the last 2 seasons.
I guarantee you the Campo coaching staff has the utmost respect for El Cerrito. After all, they have played each other the past 5 seasons (with Campo winning 3 of the games) and it has become a great rivalry.
Clearly, El Cerrito will be favored if they meet in the playoffs, but as great a season as the Gauchos have had this year, they were a missed 4th quarter field goal from a loss to Campo; a fact Coach Kahn will undoubtedly remind his players about taking the Cougars for granted. Besides, El Cerrito has their own post season demons to conquer after losing at Eureka in the first round of the playoffs last season.
October 31st, 2012 at 10:28 am
Gauchowatcher,
“Public HS in a high risk area..” – I wouldn’t consider El Cerrito a high risk area. It is a very upper middle class community with a fairly brand new rebuilt HS in the East Bay hills. Now if the FB players you speak of don’t live in EC but rather within the school boundaries of JFK-Richmond and Richmond, well that is a different story. And probably would make EC suspect to rule violations.
November 1st, 2012 at 10:17 am
FB Guru–I’m sorry, are you a district official? What about a league official? Because your comment about EC violating league rules is completely and totally out of line. I’m seeing a trend on this blog, and it’s a trend that tends to stand up for the privileged schools with the most money. I agree with GauchoWatcher when he mentions that EC is a “public school in a high risk area with a minority coaching staff that gets no respect.” FOR SHAME! How come we don’t hear praises for the coaches at EC for turning young men into college bound men? Additionally, Catholic school defenders tend to forget the fact that because they are private schools, they can pull students from Mill Valley, Greenbrae, Ross, Larkspur, San Anselmo, and other surrounding areas. If Catholic schools can RECRUIT talent from these areas, what’s wrong with El Cerrito LEGALLY having students from various parts of Richmond? “CHILD PLEASE!” (teezaleezy) Don’t hate on a school that boasts a rich history of socio-economic and a demographically diverse student body…clearly the opposite of Marin County. Without digressing, because the Caucasian bloggers will inevitably have a field day responding to this blog, EC Gauchos have taken a team consisting of 10th and 11th graders, and turned them into 11th and 12th grade FACTORS TO BE RESPECTED. Respect EC, folks…don’t let the demographics prevent you from respecting a program that pushes its athletes to be complete students athletes, not simply football players.
November 1st, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Gauchofan,
I think this year’s Ec team is the real deal and the coaching staff is doing a great job with these kids on and off the field as they do year in and year out coach Kahn is building a program and he’s doing it with a staff of coach’s who reflect the kids that are coming thru the progam and the kids respect but I agree when you read this blog and the other blogs(particularly northbay blog where the moderator of the site called Ec a joke this year and that their season would end in 2nd round with 11-1 record) there’s always questions about coaching,discipline, them not being worthy of their ranking etc.stuff that other schools don’t have to deal with (Encinal did also during there good years).
Coach Macy at Campo who I believe many respect and believe is an excellant coach, until last year always won a lot of games but never went to or won championships but his team never faced the question has faced.
Lastly the excitement the Ec fans have over this team is not just about what they’ve accomplished on the field but also academically the future is bright for a lot of these kids off the football field Go Gauchos!!!
November 1st, 2012 at 1:11 pm
@Fb Guru Ec is not violating any rules by receiving kids from Richmond, as one who lived in Richmond and wanted to go to JFK Richmond but the district boundaries did not allow me to attend Kennedy and thus I went to Ec and and it was the best decision for me and btw in case anybody doesnt remember it was my team who was the last local team to beat DeLa Salle in a regular season game on their field.Look it up and in those years we played Clayton Valley,Ygnacio Valley,Pittsburg and held our own against all
November 2nd, 2012 at 9:54 am
@DJ-Fasho brah. Even if it’s just tha two of us we fina stand up for RICHMOND. Nevermind tha haters, bro…EC holding it down and reppin for all us believers.