- East Bay Prep Corner
2012 All-East Bay football team
By Phil Jensen
Wednesday, December 26th, 2012 at 11:40 pm in Uncategorized.
Here’s the 2012 All-East Bay football team, as selected by staff members of the Bay Area News Group:
Player of the Year: Warren Miles Long, James Logan
Offensive Player of the Year: Joe Protheroe, Clayton Valley Charter
Defensive Player of the Year: Michael Hutchings, De La Salle
Coach of the Year: Tim Murphy, Clayton Valley Charter
First-team offense
RB: Warren Miles Long, James Logan
RB Joe Protheroe, Clayton Valley Charter
RB Tiapepe Vitale, De La Salle
QB Kyle Moreno, Amador Valley
WR Darrell Daniels, Freedom
WR Dominic Gomes, Bishop O’Dowd
TE Mason Melin, Monte Vista
OL Antonio Huey, Pittsburg
OL Wade Ogburn, De La Salle
OL Logan Bangert, Clayton Valley Charter
OL Kevin Leathley, California
OL Dajon Ford, McClymonds
K Sam Boyden, Berkeley
First-team defense
DL Austin Hooper, De La Salle
DL Antonio Huey, Pittsburg
DL Ansar Muhammad, James Logan
DL John Tai, Newark
Memorial
LB Michael Hutchings, De La Salle
LB Derik Calhoun, El Cerrito
LB D.J. Moffitt, De La Salle
LB Ryan Bua, James Logan
DB Kevin King, Bishop O’Dowd
DB Marcellus Pippins, El Cerrito
DB Adarius Pickett, El Cerrito
DB Nzuzi Webster, Deer Valley
UTL Jalen Harvey, El Cerrito
Second-team offense
QB Cameron Birse San Ramon Valley
RB Karris Johnson California
RB Joe Mixon Freedom
WR Amalani Fukofuka
WR Ray Hudson Foothill
WR Zati Williams Miramonte
TE Mote Maile Pittsburg
OL Nick Abrams St. Mary’s
OL Larry Allen Jr. De La Salle
OL Alex Kim San Ramon Valley
OL Flenoid McCleary Deer Valley
K Matt Anderson San Ramon Valley
Third-team offense
QB Dante Mayes Freedom
RB Jamal Lockett Pittsburg
RB Olito Thompson Concord
WR Jalen Avery Monte Vista
WR Caleb Coleman St. Mary’s
WR Mason Windatt Campolindo
OL Alem Amores Oakland Tech
OL Miguel Lara Alhambra
OL Max Moore Northgate
OL Derrick Stom Las Lomas
OL Nate Vickers Amador Valley
K Mitchell Howard Las Lomas
Second-team defense
DL Victor Egu De La Salle
DL Mote Maile Pittsburg
DL Bobby Montgomery Freedom
DL Hau Moala Tennyson
LB Ryan Dunn San Ramon Valley
LB Warren Miles Long Logan
LB Jesse Medrano Clayton Valley Charter
LB Marlon Walker Berkeley
DB Akil Bordelon Berkeley
DB Darrell Daniels Freedom
DB Marty Leggett Newark Memorial
DB Yusef Sterling Lowe McClymonds
UTL Andrew Buckley De La Salle
Third-team defense
DL Griffith Gates Foothill
DL Sumner Houston De La Salle
DL Gabe Newman Acalanes
DL Deonte Reynolds Pinole Valley
LB Jack Finney Foothill
LB Caleb Guarino Arroyo
LB Uaisele Manoa Concord
LB Takkarist McKinley Kennedy-Richmond
DB Korey Alexander Pittsburg
DB Kyle Campiotti Granada
DB Marquise Davenport Hercules
DB Corey Sails Encinal
UTL Nsimba Webster Deer Valley
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December 27th, 2012 at 7:44 am
Just out of curiosity, do all the kids that make the team receive some sort of physical reminder than they won the award such as a letter, patch , or plaque?
December 27th, 2012 at 7:54 am
Congrats to all of the young men selected.
December 27th, 2012 at 7:55 am
WHERE IS JASON HINTON. 2012 MVAL PLAYER OF THE YEAR????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ONLY A SOPHMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOK HIM UP!
December 27th, 2012 at 8:53 am
No doubt in my mind that Antonio Huey from Pitt is the one that should’ve won POTY, not Warren Miles. No disrespect to Miles, but Huey made 1st Team O and D, and he did it in the trenches, at Fullback, and OWNED DLS. As a matter of fact…I wonder who the last player to do that was.
December 27th, 2012 at 9:09 am
4 players from El Cerrito on 1st team defense, and 3 of them juniors!
December 27th, 2012 at 9:47 am
Mvalfan2, it’s extremely hard to crack this list as a sophomore. Second and no disrespect to Mr. Hinton but having a sophomore as league MVP speaks volumes in regard to the level of play in the MVAL league.
December 27th, 2012 at 9:56 am
Where is Kevin Vaughn of MACK?
December 27th, 2012 at 9:57 am
Kevin Vaughn is one of the best Linemen in the Bay… No doubt!!!
December 27th, 2012 at 11:06 am
@EBALParent, No, there is no tangible award, but there is the recognition of our staff members.
December 27th, 2012 at 11:35 am
Awesome! Well done to you Phil and all the staff. By my measures I think the list is pretty comprehensive and right this year. Congrats to all those who are recognized!
December 27th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Sam Boyden is one of the very best kickers in the area. I hope that he gets a good scholarship somewhere.
December 27th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Congratulations to all those who have been recognized. This is not an easy list to make.
With regards to the MVAL all league selections, I found it very strange that the East Bay POY was only a second team pick on offense for all MVAL, according to the list that one poster put up here last week. Something odd about that. It may have been a backlash by the coaches for having to include Logan players who weren’t really part of the league this season as they chose to go the independent route a la De La. Long had a great season and is deserving of all the accolades he receives.
December 27th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
logan and washington were both backlashed on in the all league selection. it is the customary classlessness of most of the other coaches in the MVAL. They take selfish acts out on the kids because they don’t like a team or coach. Which is the reason you will see many questionable selections in the MVAL all league, the more obvious ones of course come from logan and the great team they had this year.
It is how petty the league is one of the reasons why they aren’t more competitive outside of league. Washington and logan are the only two teams that have ever won meaningful games outside of league in the last 10 years.
December 27th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Mr hinton is a great football player and will probably be the POY of the year again. but when long is a 2nd team RB in the MVAL you might as well throw out the entire all league selections, because you know they were tainted. but there were a lot more injustices than just him.
December 27th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Prep Fan: You are absolutely right. Some coaches felt not to vote for Logan players, especially the teams that actually didn’t play Logan this year. Their opinion, I couldn’t justify voting for someone they didn’t face this season, which is totally understandable.
December 27th, 2012 at 3:07 pm
@Phil Jensen
No Aaron Ve’e? Any succes Encinal had was due to this kid shutting his side down on O & D line’s & his leadership. Never came off the field also long snapper.
Can’t really comment much on the other line man. I know a lot of it is picked on team success. How can you pick a lineman from Acalanes, Tennyson, Alhambra over him? Even Pinole Valley or St. Mary’s? I’m sure the kid from St. Mary’s will say that Ve’e should be 1st team over him.
If it comes down to D1 offers I believe he will be going on trips to Washington, UNLV, Fresno, & Reno next month. So I hope those kids are all D1′s to make it right.
December 27th, 2012 at 3:36 pm
@Perkin, Aaron Ve’e was very heavily considered.
December 27th, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Albany may not have such a strong football team but Jarin Panigbatan definitley should of been chosen. How can you not choose a young man with 5 touchdowns in one game? 1st team offense TCAL and should be considered all east bay. Very hard working and talented kid. Plays WR and Safety.
December 27th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
A bit of a travesty that Jeffrey Prothro of Logan was left off. Something like 3000 total yards and 24 touchdowns passing to 4 picks and a bunch more rushing. Outperformed both Birse and Mayes head to head.
December 27th, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Okay so I hear everyones opinion, but Logan was not even a true part of the league this year, so why should their players get first dibs on Selections. So next thing is when u talk about meaningful games, i feel that but please this is high school football! There are no true powerhouses around here except DLS, so i dont buy that, many of the teams wont give teams a chance to play them win or loss. And i am not saying the others teams had awesome schedules. But there were very good players in the MVAL. And bottome line, jason hinton is avery good football player and it dont matter who he plays he makes plays. and u cant deny him that. But I understand the sophmore comment.
December 27th, 2012 at 5:22 pm
Perkin,
I agree that Ve’e should be up there pretty high, but Lara of Alhambra is excellent and deserves to be where he is. My question is how does Berkeley get three players listed and they go 5-5 with several embarassing losses and several pretty embarrasing close wins? Not to complain because for all I know they could all be deserving.
Guys I would have liked to see mentioned:
Ve’e – DL – Encinal
Poyadue – RB – Alhambra
Deutz – UTL – Miramonte
Toohey – OL – Campo
Stephens – QB – Campo (even a partial seasons he was more impressive than most QBs)
Cappa – OL – Dublin
December 27th, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Moving DLS out of EBAL and awarding them an automatic bid in the NCS playoffs was totally the right thing to do. At least that way the boys from the EBAL schools have a fair chance to play for a league championship. DLS took about 20% of the EBAL All League selections and unless an NCS division 1 team can beat the machine known as the University of De La Salle, they have no chance of ever playing in a state championship game. Being allowed to play for a league championship is a small consolation.
December 27th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
Shocking to hear that D1 athletes with high character are left off this team. I would even say why the line man from Tech or Newark. Sails 3rd team I can see it. Tough kid fought hard this year. I could also see him not making it due to lack of success.
It will be kind of odd to read an article on these blogs in a month on Ve’e signing D1 but not making All East Bay 1st, 2nd or 3rd team. lol
There will probably only be 15 athletes in the East Bay who sign I’m sure they’re all on this list(cept 1).
December 27th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
@Miraman
2 kids from Alhambra? Wow. I don’t think their team success justifies it I guess that just says their talent level has stayed pretty consistent over there. I didn’t get a chance to go to one of their games this year. What is Coach Hern doing so wrong? I’m sure he’s still running that same Silveira offense & defense that has been there for 25 years.
December 27th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Mvalfan2 just be lucky that they werent a part of the MVAL.. they probably would have taken up ALL SELECTIONS playing in that crappy league lol
December 27th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Want to say great job to Miles Long for winning POTY. But what I don’t understand is this how can he win the award and yet not one of his OL named to the 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd team. Miles didn’t do it all by himself. I just don’t understand that part. But again I want to say great job to Miles
December 27th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
PERKIN….Mraman was right…The two guys mentioned were the heart and soul of the Bulldogs…As big as Lara was…he was quick and he put a lot of pressure on all the QB’s..He just didn’t have any support to speak of from the rest…Poyadue should have had about 1000 yards more…but he took such a beating from lack of protection..its a wonder he didn’t wind up in the hospital….This years Bulldogs should have gone 8-2 instead of 3-7…,There is something wrong in the Bulldog camp andit needs to be fixed…
December 27th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
What about the twins from EL Cerrito.. They are the QB and slot receiver.., they are like RG III and Tavon Austin… Watch out for them next year. Rumor has it they didn’t play basketball to get bigger faster stronger for football
December 27th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
@Phil Jensen
So why wasn’t Aaron V’ee considered and not picked? You and ANG lose a lot of credibility from many followers for that decision. NOT EVEN THIRD TEAM??? That’s just poor reporting. Don’t even trip Aaron… they can picture rollin on saturday afternoons next year homie!
December 28th, 2012 at 3:20 am
I’m a little surprised DLS’ Xavier Banks didn’t make the list on defense. I’d say he actually had a better year than Houston at DT.
December 28th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I am just a fan with no son on any team. These post- season honors are extremely difficult to select. There are many outstanding athletes that do not get selected. I think the Times should be thanked for all the the great coverage they give to High School sports in this area! Also, there are many great high school football players that ARE NOT D-1 players. These great High School players need to be honored. @Perkin, you will see ALL the D-1 players recognized when the “Cream of the Crop” feature comes out later. Congrats to ALL the players for a great season! Congrats to the Times for their great coverage!
December 28th, 2012 at 10:00 am
I agree renegade. My son went against Banks and said he and Huey from Pittsburg were his toughest competition all year. When Banks and Houston were named honorable mention all ebal I thought they should have both been second team but were probably slighted due to all the other DLS selections.
December 28th, 2012 at 10:10 am
and I agree that Banks may have had a better year than Houston. Banks is pretty quick for a man his size. I also heard a rumor that Houston is a 19 year old junior. Can anyone confirm that?
December 28th, 2012 at 11:40 am
If Banks is 19 now, he can’t play next year. I doubt if he is.
The last 19 yr olds I saw were Long Beach Poly players in 2003, getting off the bus pre-game very early at Cal Berkeley before DLS game smoking cigarettes and jays. I kid you not.
December 28th, 2012 at 11:45 am
EB, sometimes coaches have a say if i understand correctly. Some coaches ask to leave kids off due to certain factors or issues like grades, behavior, grades etc…, However, Im pretty sure the EHS coaches have highly recommended Aaron Ve’e. He was a beast. If I understand correctly, this 6’5 320lbs OL/DL/Special teamer never came off of the field. Check him out at the Poly Bowl too.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
Houston is not a 19 year old junior…he wouldn’t be able to play next year.
December 28th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Bubba, I thought the University of DeLaSalle deserved more than 9 players on these all east bay teams.
Dan Taut, running back with over 1000 yds. and laying leather from his DHB position was a beast in the playoffs. He had some big tackles against Logan, Folsom and Centennial. This kid was hitting like a Ronnie Lott on defense. Also, DLS offensive line deserved another player on the team.
Coach of the year, if Lad retires with 399 and 4 straight state championships, ranked # 1 nationally in Max Prep Freeman poll, should have taken the hat. I understand Clayton Valley had a turn around season and congrats to Murphy. Keep Murphy the choice, mabey Lad gets state and national coach of the year. This DeLa team deserves everything they got, beating ranked teams like Bellarmine, California, Mullen, St. Marys(Stock), Amador, SRV, MV, Pittsburg, Amador again, Logan, Folsom and Centennial. All these teams were either regionally ranked, section ranked, NorCal ranked or state ranked and a couple Nationally ranked.
The record, 15-0 speaks for itself.
December 28th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
First of all DLS deserved to have many all ebal selections, they have some great players. Second, your complaint regarding Daz not being recognized on defense is valid. He was a second team caliber RB this year. No way put him ahead of Pepe or Johnson. Can’t support your claim of another lineman. DLS had three and California had two. California only averaged about 5 fewer yards rushing per game against similar competition.
December 28th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
What would happen at DLS if all players did not go to DLS and went to the high school in their area…Would DLS still be the power house or would DLS be like all the rest of the High Schools….nine players making up DLS…makes DLS more then a hard team to beat..And what is coming up for the 2013 season…Will all the High Schools that are scheduled for 2013 all draw the same quality players as DLS will….And the beat goes on….
December 28th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
YoMama, check out Daz’s 2012 highlights on youtube. He has one for offense & defense.
December 29th, 2012 at 5:03 am
why isnt Ernest Gardner on this he should be on here before cory sails from encinal. Weston tolbert should be on here to!
December 29th, 2012 at 8:47 am
Congratulations to all those chosen. The SRV/MV/Freedom QBs all have published stats, with two of them below 100. What were Moreno’s stats since they are not published by AV?
December 29th, 2012 at 8:52 am
@TJ I hear ya, they probably would of, but the fact is they weren’t. But really if they really wanted to compete big time each week then they should just petition to join the EBAL and let one of those teams that doesnt do well get out to make it more competitive. Instead playing only 4 teams from the league. SO then they expect to get all the main League Selections, thats crazy!!
December 29th, 2012 at 11:01 am
There are many players from every single league that were deserving, yet left off this list. Congrats to those chosen!
December 29th, 2012 at 11:25 am
Hornet Pride who won Head to Head? Who had a winning record? Who had more wins in league? WHo made the play-offs? Get lost Geak. Go back under your Rock with the Moyers.
December 29th, 2012 at 12:15 pm
probably because alameda won 2 games
December 29th, 2012 at 7:33 pm
What happened to Austin Harper #24 RB from El Cerrito high…he had 782 yds on just 52 carries this season..amazing game breaker speed…he had a great senior season…and should have been utilized much…much more…you dont be it!,,,check out the film on youtube!!!
December 30th, 2012 at 3:35 am
@seattle slew- get your facts right we won 3 games and were way better then encinal they jsut go lucky with that 98 we got better atletes and way better line and out sophmore Qb hernandez is way better then #11
December 30th, 2012 at 3:36 am
*just got
December 30th, 2012 at 9:07 am
This is supposed to recognize athletes in the Bay. If your team or player isn’t on the list, realize that there are many players to choose from. Stop complaining…
December 30th, 2012 at 11:44 am
Hornet Pride You team sucks. Biggest laughing stock in the East Bay is your coaches for not being able to win with that talent.
December 30th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
lol !!!!
December 31st, 2012 at 8:09 am
DLS couldn’t get all 22 All-Leauges in EBAL so some quality kids got left off. Sumner Houston’s best position was actually offensive left tackle. Best O-Lineman in the league by far. Crushing blocks all season. In the Regional and State game took it to another level. Only a junior.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:54 am
Yes I agree EBAL Fan. Some very good and very sound players were not included from the DLS squad. I am sure most will get the recognition next year. That is a price you pay when you play on that level of a team.
December 31st, 2012 at 12:15 pm
IMO the only DLS player left off the All EBAL list was sophomore Drew Sullivan. I think he deserved to be named honorable mention. I also think Banks and Houston should have been defensive second teamer’s instead of HM. I also think Larry Allen should have been second team, but having that name never hurts. ; > )
December 31st, 2012 at 4:34 pm
“Only a Junior”, Houston is a very good lineman, even for his age.
December 31st, 2012 at 4:48 pm
Houston is an excellent player. Do you happen to know his age?
December 31st, 2012 at 5:45 pm
I don’t know his age or birth date, but I know his brother turned 19 the week of the state bowl game last year. I would think he is of similar age as their paths have mirrored each other, but 2 years behind. So maybe 18 now or in the next few months?
December 31st, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Why do u Cal hi guys have such a fascination with DLS football players and their age? Odd to say the least.
December 31st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
Because such a high percentage of DLS players seem to have repeated the eighth grade. Couple that with drawing from a 30 mile radius of Concord makes for quite an advantage.
December 31st, 2012 at 11:11 pm
Do give the stats that proove your “high percentage” claim. I will be waiting (not holding my breathe tho).
You Might be better off breaking down your QB’s mechanics so he may attempt a pass further than 8 yards next year.
January 1st, 2013 at 7:40 am
How many repeated 8th grade? One?
January 1st, 2013 at 8:30 am
All three that I know.
January 1st, 2013 at 8:44 am
The reason I bag on DLS for their older players and other unfair advantages like drawing from such a huge metro are is delusional fans and media. I’m considering watching future games with the volume down. DLS fans and media want you to believe the reason they’re so successful is because of coaching, commitment and the “brotherhood”. Oh sure, those things help but the biggest piece of the pie is their superior talent. It’s that way every year and will always be that way. Someone will spew “but their coaching puts together such great undersized offensive lines”. I’ve got news for ya folks, those kids are great football players! Cal High rushed for nearly as many yards as DLS this year and their best offensive lineman weighs 205 pounds. The veer running scheme DLS runs thrives on small, quick linemen. DLS has some excellent football players and for the most part, fine young men that I respect and admire. Just don’t insult my intelligence by asking me to drink the brotherhood kool aid.
January 1st, 2013 at 9:11 am
I will take your non response as a retraction of the “high percentage” comment.
Glad to see your true agenda came out.
Get in line, you have a lot of company in the Green Machine Envy Club.
The Brotherhood will be back working their butts off starting next week to gain advantage in the fall of 2013.
January 1st, 2013 at 9:20 am
No retraction, I know three and all will be the age of college freshmen when they graduate…………
January 1st, 2013 at 9:37 am
Add Tagaloa to the list since one must be 15 to play varsity and he did so as a freshman. Haven’t these things been pointed out to you in the past or have you failed to clean your ears out? Get in line front runner……….
January 1st, 2013 at 9:57 am
You have yet to give us the percentage for DLS and every other school in the area….. you are throwing stuff at the wall.
January 1st, 2013 at 10:10 am
4 for 4 equals 100% most of the time……
January 1st, 2013 at 10:17 am
Yikes. You made the claim DLS has a high percentage of players that repeated 8th grade vs other schools.
What is DlS percentage?
What is the average of other schools?
Or are you just slinging garbage?
January 1st, 2013 at 10:26 am
All I said was I know of four that are obviously “old”. I doubt many public schooler’s are repeating the eighth grade at Catholic schools to up their resume for DLS.
January 1st, 2013 at 10:29 am
Actually, I meant repeat eighth grade before entering public high school.
January 1st, 2013 at 10:38 am
Thank you for correcting your original claim.
January 1st, 2013 at 10:40 am
It certainly needed correcting.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:07 am
The usual DLS BS. My own relatives held their kids back in public grammar school because they weren’t ready for the next year and another because of age.
Big deal.
Bubba, the advantage DLS has over publics is far and wide. DLS won without the so-called geo advantage thru the 1980′s, I beleive 44 straight at one time.
The real advantage is they are better than yur kids and their team. Better work ethics, more weightroom, better coaching, better blocking and tackling.
So suck it up and understand that the brotherhood and the program they have built is not going away any time soon.
January 2nd, 2013 at 12:00 pm
It’s nice to finally hear a DLS fan admit their advantage over public schools. I know they aren’t going away anytime soon and the machine will keep rolling long after the better than average Coach Lad retires.
January 2nd, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Berkeley had 3 kids on the All East Bay teams because those kids were amazing in spite of few resources for football and lack of good coaching. The players, the 3 named plus the rest of them, were able to win all their league games in spite of playing at Berkeley High. Those 3 kids deserve the honor.
January 2nd, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Bubba- do the 680 corridor public schools have advantages over the 880 corridor public schools?
January 2nd, 2013 at 1:58 pm
No not to my knowledge, should they?
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:33 pm
According to 880 and OAL posters, yes cuz they have money in their school districts, better paid coaching and first class facilities and equipment. That makes for an advantage within the public school districts. Also, there are a few kids in skill positions going to those 680 schools, you just dont know it.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Thats what I figured… you have zero objectivity.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 pm
All I know is that when we lined up across from DLS after the NCS championship game, they were HUGE. Their lineman are not small and athletic, they are HUGE. Not to mention very athletic and very fast as well. And yes, some of them look like full grown men as well. Playing DLS is like playing an all-star team that has 3 years to practice together. I know Junior may have a counter argument here, but there is a distinctly unfair advantage that the Spartans roll with.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Bubba,
The best way to put it is like this:
If Bob Ladouceur and his coaching staff were coaching at any east bay public D1 school for the past 33 years, would they have won 23 consecutive NCS D1 championships? The answer is clearly no and I don’t think Junior or YoMama, in good conscious, would dispute that.
I have stated many times that 99% of the reason DLS has won those 23 consecutive championships begins with an open enrollment policy that DLS has deftly used to an advantage that no other PRIVATE School in Northern California can touch in terms of geographic & population reach, much less any public schools. Take the open enrollment policy away and DLS would still be the best D1 football school in Northern California, for all the reasons that Junior has stated in previous posts, they just wouldn’t have won 23 straight championships (they would have a 1% chance of doing so, IMHO).
Interesting discussion about repeating 8th grade (or any other grade prior to high school) to gain an athletic edge; 60 Minutes did a segment on this many years ago in the State of Texas where this was a common practice for high school football players.
I do not know of anyone repeating 7th or 8th grade at a public junior high school in Central CC County for athletic reasons, but do know 2 cases a few years ago where students graduated 8th grade at a public school and then enrolled at a Catholic School in 8th grade the following year and then were accepted at DLS. Bubba, are the 4 cases you are referring to this type of transfer?
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:42 pm
Logan- your perception may be true- “huge” can be subjective.
I agree the 2012 DLS line was very big by Spartan standards.
DLS Oline in LBS: 210,250,192,270,242 (typically are closer to 215 lbs)
DLS D line: 247,295,242,220 (this might be the biggest DLS d line ever)
Here are the Logan lineman I saw play:
O: 265,240,255,235,220
D: 195,230,240, not sure on #99
THE #1 Spartan advantage: Bob Lad.
Congrats on a Great year LoganPride
January 3rd, 2013 at 7:22 am
#1 Spartan advantage better players and better depth.
January 3rd, 2013 at 7:39 am
Yes, graduating public 8th grade and then repeating 8th grade at a Catholic school is what I’m seeing.
January 3rd, 2013 at 9:08 am
#81
u mental is all wrong no wonder u lost
i listen 2 alot of coaches have fear about things that have nothing 2 do with football U LOST THAT GAME B4 U TOUCH THE FIELD
Their lineman are not small and athletic, they are HUGE. Not to mention very athletic and very fast as well. And yes, some of them look like full grown men as well.
January 3rd, 2013 at 10:29 am
JALAN HARVEY #11
el cerrito
is by far one of the best athletes
i have ever seen
he is a sunday player and u left him of the list
GOT DAM AMAZING
January 3rd, 2013 at 10:42 am
Chalk, Jalen is a 1st team defense selection.
January 3rd, 2013 at 11:46 am
Jalen Harvey is the first-team utility selection. It’s an award listed with the defense but goes to an exceptional all-around player.
January 3rd, 2013 at 3:51 pm
thank you i stand corrected
January 4th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Can someone out there honestly tell me how many of the DLS D1 scholarship players who live at least 45 minutes away from DLS attend DLS on “financial need” scholarships? This is the real issue. Many school districts have “open enrollments” where kids can attend other schools in their districts. If they have financial incentive to go to DLS, that is the problem.
January 4th, 2013 at 9:30 am
Trust me Fan, this is one topic DLS lovers don’t wanna discuss. Screw the 45 minutes, that would exclude players from Oakland, Pittsburg, Antioch, etc…….In all fairness to DLS fans, I’m sure this info is confidential both for athletes and academically gifted.
January 4th, 2013 at 10:35 am
I love that i come back from an awesome vacation and find that Bubba has posted everyday for over a week. Does the Cal kids hit the weight room on Monday the 6th like at DLS? We expect a full report on attendance. Thank you for the updates and Happy New Year.
BTW Press conference at DLS today!
January 4th, 2013 at 10:48 am
They are hitting weights today, thank you……………
January 4th, 2013 at 11:22 am
Just a Fan, gee, Bart Houston Div 1 last year didn’t get any finaancial aid. I know a lot more but not going to put student names on a blog. Former greats Amani Toomer, Doug Obrien, Derek Landry, to name a few. Gee, they are ex NFL.
Again, financial aid goes to a large number of needy students, not just sports stars.
January 4th, 2013 at 11:26 am
Yes, DLS has boundry advantages that most public schools don’t have. Yes, Danville has advantages that the other side of the hill doesn’t have. You can give all the best talent in the NCS boundries to one public school and they still will not have the NCS unbeaten streak that LAD or DLS has put together. It is something that outsiders won’t get but just criticize it. The Brotherhood mixed with 100% participation from every student athelete = Championships.
Miramonte year end and year out put together one of the states best Water polo team. Do they recruit 8th graders that want to play water polo or do they have a “superior” program in place that has set a continued tradition.
January 4th, 2013 at 11:44 am
Bubba, press conf. today at 3 pm DLS. Honoring the man that put DLS in the driver’s seat. A perfect storm. Not one NCS/CIF violation in 34 years.
Credentials to attend:
Catholic or Christian
ex- talented athelete
know what you are talking about
Respect the Brotherhood
Love and commitment( a very powerful word)
If you can measure up then show up and get a peak into the mystery of DeLaSalle.
Chalktalk, you’re invited, you should measure up.
Memo: Enter to learn, leave to serve.
January 4th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
When the machine continues to roll for the next ten years after he’s gone, it will be proof that Coach Lad is better than average.
January 4th, 2013 at 2:38 pm
The thing you don’t get is it’s never about the wins or losses that makes Lad one of the greatest coaches ever. Coach B would be able to tell you that, then maybe you’d understand. Until you have that conversation with him it’s time for you to stop talking about what you don’t understand.
January 4th, 2013 at 2:44 pm
I’ll talk about whatever I want. It’s not about wins or losses with Coach B, either……
January 4th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Congratulations Bob Ladouceur on a stellar high school coaching run.
January 4th, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Coach Lad admits the “unfair advantage”. Caught on video:
http://www.mercurynews.com/high-school-sports/ci_22312816/bob-ladouceur-steps-down-de-la-salles-head
January 5th, 2013 at 8:39 am
I hate getting in on these DLS roasts. But I have a co-worker whose son wrestled at Livermore. Knew I believe the 2nd Peco brother well wrestled with him on a lot of club programs. He that there’s no way he could of passed an entrance exam to attend DLS. Isn’t catholic & would have needed serious resources to be eligible.
January 5th, 2013 at 8:59 am
That’s all the proof we need Perkin… Case closed.
January 5th, 2013 at 9:21 am
big joe
u cant seem 2 keep my name out ur mouth lmao
I HAVE MUCH RESPECT 4 COACH LAD AND HIS SYSTEM
the rolling starts creates leverage while everyone is still reading keys WOW y a coach would have a kid standing still while the entire o-line is moving forward beats me!!! SEE I PLAYED AGAIST DLS IN 1986
and I was beating the DB’s 2 death THE GREAT COACHING STAFF OVER THERE immediately TOLD THEIR PLAYER 2 START CHEATING ” hold him lock on 2 his jersey hit him trip him i don’t care what u have 2 do but if he gets by u again ull b standing over here with me” it anit cheating if u hire a tax attorney to find loop holes in the system…IS IT
January 5th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
Chalk, the ’86 DeLa team was undefeated at 12-0. Did u play for EC? who?
January 7th, 2013 at 11:19 am
I would think Lad is in line for California and National coach of the year. He has not received either of those 2 awards in awhile.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
To all the Catholic school haters….The 4 main reasons that the top programs are always good is very simple 1-success breeds success 2- open enrollment 3-People want to be associated with winners 4-a good education in a safe environment.DLS took this to an extreme and combined it with a very disciplined coaching staff and the ability to demand countless hours of time both in and out of season.
Allocco does the same thing with basketball,but it is a totally different sport and easier to lose games than football.
The elite schools do not have to recruit and most DO NOT.By the way,I use to know a lot of public school coaches who recruited their butts off.I also know a lot of public schools that had a lot of players who lived out of their district.Hayward and Newark Memorial were and are famous for using BART.
January 7th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
alabama = talent
notre dame= technique
the talent is so superior the backers dont even no what angles 2 take even if the do take the proper angle the RB are so quik the target change 2 fast 4 NOTRE DAME this is what would happen it DLS went 2 TEXAS DE LA SALLE JUST WOULD B OUT CLASS
January 8th, 2013 at 11:32 am
Chalktalk, DeLaSalle is looking to schedule a Texas powerhouse next season. There are mabey 3 Texas schools who could hang with DeLa.
Louissana schools have been higher ranked nationally then most Texas schools, remember what happened to Evangel Christian some years back.
Bishop Gorman can also beat Texas schools, remember what happened to them.
The Florida schools are better than the Texas schools.
You’ve been reading too much of Saturday Night Lights.
Also in a previous post you said you faced DLS in 1986.
What team was that? Certainly not from Texas.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Being a SOUTHERNER, I will weigh in here. The difference between the big time Southern high schools and most of the rest of the country is that these guys –in each state– play each other every year. It’s kinda like being in the SEC; week in and week out the teams get HAMMERED by each other, and even the least of these schools is a gnarly proposition. So it’s kind of a “last man standing ” scenario. DLS would do very well indeed down south, but it would not be the “gimmee” that it is in California.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:21 pm
@ 109
Alabama=talent, ND=lucky. Notre Dame was a bad team that went undefeated with a mediocre schedule. ND beat Purdue/Pitt at ND, by a combined total of 6 points. Both those teams ended the year with a 6-7 record. Youngstown St. beat Pitt by 14, AT Pitt, and they went 4-4 in their FCS league. This is what happens when good teams play bad teams. They blow them out. Comparing Alabama/ND to Texas/DLS is a joke. You’re saying the LBP tea,m with multiple future NFL players on it, wasn’t talented? What a joke.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:15 pm
WHERES JASON HINTON????? you know theres an old saying “the best players play” and clearly he was one of the best players. He didn’t just play rb he also played receiver and kick returner and played safety with a couple of pick 6′s. He even had to play qb when the the regular starter Nick Kinast had to be taken out due to injury. So to not give him a spot due to his age is absolutely dumb.
January 8th, 2013 at 6:58 pm
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do u know the difference between a country boy and city folk toughness!!! DLS is not a tough team no one ever hits them they are always doing the hitting. u let one team dominate by manipulating the rules ….
they won’t go 2 Texas because the refs aren’t in the’re pockets and no rolling start NO wins 4 DLS…
WHO CANT RUN BEHIND A LINE THAT TAKES off B4 EVERYONE ON THE FIELD THATS Y THE RB CANt GET A FULL RIDE IDONT SEE ANY COLLEGES BEAT DOWN THE DOOR OF ALL THESE 2000YRD RUSHERS DO U……………..
I played against a dude RUSSEL WHITE got a full ride to Oregon from DLS meet him years later at some PRO work outs THE GUY had very little talent but somehow rushed 4 over 300yrd on us in high school SO DONT TELL ME DLS HAS TALENT I KNOW FIRST HAND THAT ITS THE SYSTEM
The reason uall cant beat DLS cuz ur so focused on fundamentals
Instead of the job which is to win at all cost… SOMETHING I LEARNED IN TEXAS
– as 4 the joke ur the joke letting average athletes dominate 4 30 plus years—
January 9th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
Chalktalk, I didn’t call you a joke. another post. also Russell White did not go to Oregon, he went to Cal and was from Crespi Carmilite in southern cal. DLS has always had talent, they have a lot of guys who went pro and numerous in div 1 over the yrs. DLS approaches training and games like college, so rolling lines are no big thing. Furthermore, NO ONE is afraid of Texas, that myth went bye bye a long time ago in track and field. Yes, Texas has talent, but Florida has more. Be civil now when u deal with me. I am not attacking u. However, u need ur dose of DeLa like cod liver oil when u were a kid. Be respectful, u already have Loganfan to deal with.
January 9th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
not that russell white look up the dls running back 86′
the russel white ur talking about is the OAL commish–
and he was very talented great feet and balance nice power lacked speed and desire FOOTBALL IS NOT 4 EVERYONE SOME PEOPLE DONT LIKE FALLING OUT OF BED WITH ACHES AND PAINS LMAO
i take cod liver oil with a tablespoon of vinegar 530am every morning
GO SEE KATY TX right down the road from houston
or Lamar in houston
AS 4 LOGAN FAN ILL BE TRAINING FUTURE PROS GETTING READY 4 THE COMBINE starting late jan. ill keep u posted…
January 9th, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Dls is not what u call talented ur confusing fundamentals and discipline with talent
they look talented until they see real athletes
didnt u see NOTRE DAME
January 9th, 2013 at 3:19 pm
Chalktalk:
Get your players names correct. The “Russell” you are referring to at DLS in the mid-’8o’s was Russell Lawson, not Russell White. Lawson was a great HS back who never reached the same level of stardom in college that he reached in HS. Great HS back, though! Made the DLS veer very lethal when he played there.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Texas teams are soft. TX teams can’t tackle.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
EB FB FAN
im so glad u corrected me thx
LAWSON THATS HIM ALRIGHT ABOUT 5’8″ 175LBS
DAM IM GETTING OLD
January 10th, 2013 at 12:42 pm
who were you playing for when you faced this DLS running back named Lawson in ’86. That DeLa team went undefeated so they must have been good other than fundamentals.
January 10th, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Chalk, it looks like ” the eyes of texas are upon you” per Junior. I have figured it out- you went to a texas JC school.
As Davy Crockett once said, ” forget Hell, I’m goin’ to Texas. This was the Alamo and we know what happened there.
To be a true Texacan, you need Texas birth rite.
January 11th, 2013 at 9:31 am
http://highschoolgridiron.com/2013/01/09/final-2012-top-50-national-rankings/
January 11th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Interesting poll, the Freeman Max Prep poll is entirely different. DLS # 1, John Curtis out of Louisanna not ranked anywhere near the other poll.
Freeman and Cal Preps are usually very close.
January 11th, 2013 at 3:16 pm
The Freeman/Cal Prep National poll has Katy Texas team ranked # 20. The most consitant team on top or near the top on all the high school polls still comes out to DLS. They are ranked anywhere from # 1 to # 5 on various polls. The Freeman Poll rates on schedule, wins, strengh, just cold hard facts according to the poll.
January 11th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
shame shame shame NOTRE DAME was ramked #1 also
did u see the game
they didnt match up well
DLS doesnt match up well with anyone that can block 4 2 sec. or anyone that throws passes over 10yrds
or anyone that hits them first
BUT THE LB #17 IS THE TRUTH I WILL SAY THAT
January 13th, 2013 at 10:28 am
actually, Chalk, the LB Moffit is going Pac-12, the lineman Hooper(who destroyed Folsom and Logan) has tons of offers and most likely going to Stanford, RB Vitale most likely San Jose St, Egu other LB to Cal Berkeley, DB/WR Buckley to Cal Berkeley, that doesn’t include # 17 Hutch to USC. That sounds like they match up fine.
With those kids alone they beat any Texas team this year.
Texas teams ranked all over the board, high and low in different polls.
Morer California teams ranked than them.
DLS the only team consistantly in the top 5 in EVERY poll and # 1 in the most important poll- Freeman poll.
January 14th, 2013 at 11:06 am
When u analyze talent u look at how the player transitions there weight is the player fighting himself or ARE his muscle move in unison
CAN HE BALANCE HIMSELF IN ARKWARD POSITIONS
u can teacher an ape fundamentals and discipline DOESN’T MAKE THE APE A FOOTBALL PLAYERS JUST MAKE HIM A FUNDAMENTELY SOUND APE
DLS is a fine institution
January 14th, 2013 at 1:17 pm
DeLa must have some excellent ape/human/ students/football players cuz Mr. Hutchings just received the Mr. Football award for the best player in California. DeLa now has had 4 count ‘em California players of the year. No other school has had 4 Cal players of the year in modern research. Still waiting to hear which team you played for in ’86 that went down to a perfect season DeLaSalle team. We have film and footage of all past games from Dr. Falykoll, so we can look up your team and it’s performance, also can lookup individual performance. uh hu!
January 15th, 2013 at 11:15 am
the same weakness u had in 86′ is the same weakness u have now systematic movements
IM SURE U HAVE THE BEST COACHED TEAM IN AMERICA
so are the kids talented or just coachable
January 16th, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Chalk, the kids are talented enough to beat you. That’s all that counts. The coaching is another great aspect. There is NO weakness in the DeLaSalle program, that can be dito’ed by many great teams who have played them. Look at the West coast coaches comments that appeared last week. They have a way better perspective than any of us bloggers. Did you read them? Did you read Madden, Walsh and Harbaugh statements? Lad just announced as National coach of the year by Max Preps and others. Again, who in’86 had more talent but didn’t win the game. We’re talking about your team here. I and others are awaiting your reply. We can bring it up on film to help jog your memory.
January 17th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
LMAO
u think because u won the game u had the better team
NOT
SOMETIME COACHES GET CAUGHT UP IN THIER SYSTEM AN DONT COACH 2 THEIR TALENT
DLS has a system where u win with minimal talent I think its genius
Most teams have to win with beast’ kudos 2 u
See in the early 90′s i trained with MR. Lawson and MR. Van LEE who got a ride to Stanford out of DLS and every now and then I would just turn 2 them and say u 2 dudes beat us and they would just laugh their asses off….. ALL I CAN SAY IS COACHES HAVE A LOT OF POWER!!!!!
January 17th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Chalktalk, bullshit. What team, when, how and etc. Lawson and VanLee were Div 1 prospects. The scouts aren’t fooled. The ones who think they are Div 1 go to JC’s to develop. DeLa has had the coaching and the talent and developed less talent to advANCE AND WIN GAMES AND GIVE THAT LESS-TALENTED A SHOT AT COLLEGE BALL.
January 17th, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Big joe most go 2 jc because the lack discipline and they dont have grades not because of the lack of talent UR right the scouts arent fool they know what there getting a kid that knows how 2 play football and will follow order without question WHO COULD ASK 4 ANYTHING MORE LMAO
ur players are fillers buddy and fillers are greatly need CANT HAVE 2 MUCH TALENT look at the LAKERS LMAO
January 18th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Most importantly, the DeLa guys are do’ers. Talk all u want, they are going to colleges and getting an education to boot. That’s the real bottom line, isn’t it.
January 26th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
these parents are hilaroooo