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Liberty High forfeiting two football wins

By Stephanie Hammon
Thursday, September 12th, 2013 at 5:41 pm in East Bay Football, Football.

The Liberty High football team is forfeiting its wins over Concord and West-Tracy due to the use of an academically ineligible player.
The Lions, who were off to their best start since 1998, are now 0-2 after self-reporting the problem.
“Our head coach was doing a grade check and realized that one of the kids may have been out of compliance,” Liberty athletic director Curtis Cunningham said. “We started investigating and realized that he was out of compliance. It’s really important to us that we uphold the values of integrity, honesty and good sportsmanship, so we self-reported as soon as we could… It was just a clerical error, it kind of just slipped through.”
After finishing 2-8 last season, Liberty was off to a strong start under new coach Jeff Walters, having outscored Concord and West by a combined 98-37. Instead, Concord and West will each be credited with a victory for those games.
Liberty’s next game is at home against Hayward on Friday at 7:30 p.m.
“Everyone’s disappointed, but I think Jeff is doing a good job of turning it into a rallying point,” Cunningham said.

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  • bval fan

    It’s Liberty! Enough said…..

  • HS Swami

    BVAL Fan . . . you are ignorant and off-base once again. Coach Walters working hard and the product on the field has been very solid. It was an oversight with a kid that came out late for the team, and as soon as they found out, they reported the error. If West and Concord have any integrity, they would refuse to accept the forfeit victories. Outcome of those games would not have changed one bit!

  • EB FB Coach

    HS Swami, you’re obviously not a coach. As a coach, you accept wins in any form. Playoffs doesn’t discriminate between good wins and bad wins.

  • bval fan

    Swami,
    Stop crying for wins…just earn them! EB FB Coach is 100% correct.

  • BobSchieffer

    A glimmer of integrity in football after this week’s news of Okla. St.

  • http://aol BigJoe

    chalktalk- SL cant win getting only 49 yds rushing. no one is going to win with only 49 yds. rushing out of the wing tee. NM had a sizeable lead. That offense cant come back.

  • http://aol YoMama

    odowd score vs. valley san jose? if odwowd scores thats an accomplishment. serioulsy speaking i’m walkin’ my dogs tonite- trackin’ Nickerson. His kid gots a big challenge vs. Ohio st. tommorrow- better play Barton more.

  • http://aol YoMama

    did redwood come across the richmond san rafeal to get some bbq or did richmond cross to get some brie?

  • http://aol YoMama

    how did Jack-off-crates Ferndale do tonite? Loss to Mack last week after last year’s racial slurs might seal their dr. doom?

  • http://aol YoMama

    Jack-off-crates- yo women token that medical mary-jane this weekend? what’s ferndales principle gots to say this yr? U dudes still on probation?

  • chalktalk

    BIGJoe
    the coaching staff has no idea on how to adjust
    if the game plan doesnt work there is no plan b

    they tried to get me 2 buy in LMAO
    COACHING IS MAKING ADJUSTMENT LAST TIME I CHECKED

    I TOLD U ALL THEY WOULD YELL AT THE KIDS A BLAME THEM FOR THE LOST HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR COACHING
    with all those athlete they still trail by 14 in every game at the half AMAZING

  • chalktalk

    every last aspect of the game that i said would happen is happening right before their eyes
    from the offense to the players they have on the field getting beat. TO PLAYERS THAT cant make the play BUT THEY will NEVER CHANGE because its never the coaches fault
    U DONT LEARN IF UR NOT WILLING 2 ADMIT UR FAULTS.

  • http://aol BigDog

    doesnt Jack-O-Latern Crates come on the blog in october? thats when its a little spooky. mabey chalktalk pays a visit and wakes up the locals in sleeply hollow. chalktalk, u need to pin up Crates against the AC in the Bates Motel.

  • http://aol BigJoe

    what happened to Salesian? Blow out to Middletown last week and now loss to Hercules? They must miss Freddie. The Pride is no more so far. Is Nightingale still croacking- err coaching?

  • http://aol BigJoe

    I predict SM beats Salesian this year.

  • http://aol YoMama

    something goin’ on in santa rosa- CN, Montgomery and SR high all lookin’ good.

  • The Coach

    It’s and unfortunate situation for Liberty, but as an opposing coach you take the “W” period. Has nothing to do with integrity whatsoever. Much respect to the coach for reporting it, though it would have eventually come out further into the season.

  • chalktalk

    RG3 is dun
    its like when u get old and u cant do ur moves anymore!!!
    ur football knowledge has to evolve fast than ur body decays

  • Petey

    To Chalk.

    Everyone sees through your charade of rants. You got fired by San Lorenzo. So you cyber bully the SLZ head coach & his the staff. They are running the wing t and winning. They lost a close game to Newark that the previous year they would have lost by 30+ points. You post things on here to try and turn the players against him. You need help. You need a girlfriend, a new video game, something to help you get over the fact that you got fired. It happens bro. Put some water on those coals and take a deep look at yourself. Realize that you’re not exactly a likeable person. Realize the San Lorenzo program is improving. Realize that you don’t matter anymore. You should try fishing it is more relaxing than posting negative, hateful thoughts on a public blog. I don’t believe you will ever get a job again if you apply to a school and the coach calls them and shows them this stained portion of your résumé.

  • Petey

    To Chalk.

    Everyone sees through your charade of rants. You got fired by San Lorenzo. So you cyber bully the SLZ head coach & his the staff. They are running the wing t and winning. They lost a close game to Newark that the previous year they would have lost by 30+ points. You post things on here to try and turn the players against him. You need help. You need a girlfriend, a new video game, something to help you get over the fact that you got fired. It happens bro. Put some water on those coals and take a deep look at yourself. Realize that you’re not exactly a likeable person. Realize the San Lorenzo program is improving. Realize that you don’t matter anymore. You should try fishing it is more relaxing than posting negative, hateful thoughts on a public blog. I don’t believe you will ever get a job again if you apply to a school and the coach calls them and shows them this stained portion of your résumé.

  • chalktalk

    petey
    u felt the need to chime in lol
    charades are fictitious
    U GO ASK THE KIDS OR SOMEONE THAT KNOWS FOOTBALL IF THEY WOULD HAVE LOST BY 30 WITH My system… do u know for a fact i got fired. “NO” if I GOT FIRED I WOULD HAVE NEVER COME ON THIS BLOG. wHAT TYPE OF DUDE ARE U ANYWAY ‘captian save a ho” GO HOLD HIS HAND WALK HIM THRU IT. the players have been against him GO TALK TO ANY PASS PLAYER. “thier improving thats the mediocre shit im talking about” at this point with that team u destroy records.
    1. the QB has a great arm but since he’s being taught all this fundamentals his trying 2 do 10 things at once . ( try to do everything end up doing nothing.) soME people need alot of coaching some people u leave alone.
    2 the WR are great u know how i no i taught them
    a) TO HANG IN THE AIR LOCK UP EVERY MUSCLE IN UR BODY AND ThRUST TOWARDS THE BALL.
    B) TO DROP THRUST EVER MUSCLE TOWARDS THE GROUND THEN GO LIMP.
    3. RB dead leg, refract energy while ur braking tackles, defensive spin and offense spin. power straight arm and elusive straight arm.
    Basically HOW TO BE ON STOPPABLE.
    i believe in making a kid fell invincible
    installing the knowledge it takes to get things done DOESNT MATTER HOW U DO JUST THAT ITS DONE!!!!
    ——————————————————-
    petey U SURE ARE OPINIONATED DO U HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS project. IF i dont matter y are u “TYPING LMAO”

  • HAAL2007

    Victor Bannerman Aka ChalkTalk STFU you mad that YOU GOT FIRED A SLZ

  • http://ibabuzz.com PERKIN

    Taking his scheduling out of it NIghtengale is a pretty solid coach runs good system on O & D but he is never gonna be better then the players he has. If that makes any sense. For a good stretch he was getting great players not counting the name Tagaloa , Best ect.. and great numbers to build off of. I assume now that he’s not getting the players he use too.

  • chalktalk

    im laughing so hard u should see my face.
    or maybe u should beat me up
    or threaten me
    or get ur daddy
    or smile in my face

    oh we calling people names lmao
    haal 2007 who are u

  • chalktalk

    whats worse cyber bullying or
    bullying a football team
    and making them run goal-line
    wing -t
    im not cyber bullying I WANT SUM STRANGE DUDE TO WALK UP TO ME AND SLAP THE SHIT OUT OF ME SO I CAN THEN APPLY PRESSURE.

  • Petey

    Victor Bannerman. Fictitious college football player. Self-proclaimed great “system” coach,& Cyber Bully. Your name is now on the wall of scum. Stay away from SLZ football.

  • chalktalk

    SLZ is going down hill
    they just cut the best player on the team who was a team captain after all the other captains said keep him.
    Y ASK THE PLAYERS OPINION IF IT HAS NO VALUE
    and THEN U suspended the best RB..
    U SEEM TO THINK Ur GOD AND SLZ TEAM IS UR OWN PERSONAL TOY!!!!!!

    IM SURE BY HALFTIME OF THE NEXT GAME U’LL HAVE A FULL FLEDGED MUTINY ON UR HANDS
    ——————————————————-
    I guess u’ll be coaching an invisible team..
    u would have never gotten the job if u told the panel u were running goal-line wing-t…

    THOSE 20 PLUS KIDS WOULD HAVE NEVER WOKE UP EARLY SATURDAY MORNING AND TRAINED WITH ME TO RUN THE WING-T
    u lied u have no integrity. I talk to ur high school coach lol “he was a sleazy lil kid probably a sleazy adult” kARMA U SELFISH BASTARD…
    ( to all u haters out there i spent alot of time, money
    got EX nfl players to donate time training the kids way b4 he got the job.) im not angry just very disappointed…

    I WANT U TO IMAGINE WORKING HARD ALL SUMMER GOING TO SUMMER SCHOOL GETTING UR GRADES UP, RUNNING HILLS SPEED WORK RESISTANT TRAINING LIFTING WEIGHTS all to get cut.
    this is how u create criminals not athletes!!!!!
    $$$$$$$ WHEN U WORK THERE SHOULD B A REWARD $$$$$$

  • chalktalk

    FOOTBALL IS A EXTRA CURRICULUM ACTIVITY
    question some one plz chime in what does a kid have to do to get cut?

  • Red
  • chalktalk

    Petey what type of BITCH are u
    only a bitch would come in the defense of his man

    would u like to meet face to face
    SHOW chalktalk THIS Self-proclaimed WALL OF SCUm
    ” THE FACT THE UR DEFENDING A BITCH LIKE TROTMAN MAKES U A BIGGER BITCH” everything’s funny until some one gets hurt AND THE KIDS ARE BE HURT so once again this is not a joke BITCH

  • chalktalk

    trotman was 2-8 then went 2-8 again thats his coaching career he was put in that position cuz i vouched for him
    MAYBE HE HAS A RIGHT TO RUN THE WING-T
    but he doesnt have the right to lie to the kid ridicule the kids bully the kids UR ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THIS AGREEMENT BITCH ASS N—-

  • TJ

    Chalk, how do you know that he “bullies” the kids? What proof do you have to back up that claim? Not callin you out, just curious

  • MiraMan

    Chalktalk,

    Coaches usually “cut” kids (i.e. kick the off the team) for fighting, skipping school, grades, missing practice, insubordination, etc. Occasionally, a minor infraction may be left to the discretion of the captains, but usually the coach makes the call. I don’t know where you’ve been, but most sports teams are not democracies, nor should they be.

    I certainly hope the kid was not taking the advice of a relative/family friend/neighbor that pumped the kid full of some notion that the team should be running the pistol instead of the wing t. He shot his mouth off and got canned. If so, I would hope that the kid would see that perhaps his relative/family friend/neighbor wasn’t so helpful after all. Perhaps he will learn a couple of life lessons that:

    1. Not all advice is good advice.
    2. Being part of a team requires you to go along with some things that aren’t perfect, but you make them work.

  • chalktalk

    TJ
    i was on the staff
    when he switched from the pistol to the WING-T
    NOT ONE SINGLE PLAYER WANTS TO RUN WING-T

    HE THREATEN ALL THE KIDS at least 10 players called my phone “COACH U HAVE TO DO SOMETHING PLZ STOP HIM”

    GO UP TO PRACTICE ASK THE KIDS dont take my word for it

  • chalktalk

    MIRAMAN
    the kids were running the pistol for months
    while im teaching the QB how to read he’s behind my back telling them who to throw too. HOW IN THE HELL DO U KNOW WHO IS GOING TO B OPEN IF U CANT READ A DEFENSE URSELF.

    ANY way the QB threw 8 picks in passing league
    i asked the QB y did u throw to him ” trotman told me too”
    i look at trotman
    trotmans response im the HC i can do whatever i want!!!! end of story

  • http://ibabuzz.com PERKIN

    Mission Viejo beat Don Bosco Prep.

  • Paydirt

    Was going to comment on… Never mind, let’s get back to football.

    Saw a hard-hitting game at Logan on Friday with the Colts over SRV 21-18. These are clearly two top ten East Bay teams. Logan should move up to 4 or 5, with SRV one notch below. A rematch in the NCS playoffs would be great to see because they match up well.

    Keep it clean and see you at the gridiron!

  • EB Prep Fan

    There are 2 ways to do it. You either make the decision as a coach and staff and stick to it…..or you ask the seniors, team or captains for their votes or opinions. But you absolutely do not take a vote or ask their opinion and then pay no attention to it. Not sure what is going on really, down there, but that’s just my opinion in general. I also know that when kids constantly hear negativity about a coach, they will think its ok to question him and turn against him. Usually it is at the dinner table at home. Again, I have no knowledge of what is happening, but I have just witnessed he things happen in other situations like this.

  • Wrecking Crew

    Why has this blog been taken over by a bitter, recently fired coach from a bottom feeder program who needs to enroll in a local community college and take a writing course?????

  • REAL head coach

    You all need to grow up. Calk talk shut your mouth and get your own team. Then we will see what kind of coach your are. The proof is in the pudding. And ant man who call out someone real name without reviling there own real name is a coward. Until you give your name stay off the blog. Your word don’t count. And from now on let’s talk high school football only on this blog. You guys need to exchange # if you want to talk about other things

  • Reggie Hammond

    When to cut a player?

    A few reasons but not all.
    after a parent contact and meeting (get to the core).
    after a staff meeting (maybe admin too)
    abusive to women in any way
    incidents involving guns
    gangs, drugs abuse, and violence.
    extremely poor academics
    extreme disrespect to a coach (profanity, wont follow directions, destruction of property etc.)
    doesn’t meet the minimum requirements for practice time (too many absences).

    I’m sure there are more reasons but this is a good start.

  • chalktalk

    REal coach
    do i have to have my own team to coach.
    TRotmaan coached my kid at SAN LEANDRO I TOLD him he didnt know what the hell he was doing then. SO ONCE AGAIN HE TOLD ME TO GET A JOB AND COACH AGAINST HIM
    so i did the out come was he lost.
    i actually coach kids when they make mistakes i actually correct it based on their skill set
    a novice athlete cant do what a season athlete can AND THATS HOW I APPROACH THE PROBLEM not yelling and screaming BUT EXPLAINING THE CONCEPT SO THE CHILD LEARNS
    ASK ANY COACH ANY PLAYER CAN I COACH ( VERY FUNNY JOKE CAN I COACH) U ASK THE SLZ STAFF CAN I COACH

    ” WREACKING CREW VERY NICE LMAO” I LUV WHEN THEY BOO ME

  • chalktalk

    Reggie
    the kids u mention are the kids who need the most guidance. u turn ur back on them now, they’ll be robbing u later. ONE THING “BEAM” DID WAS GOT KID OFF THE STREETS AND ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. MADE PLAYER BELIEVE THERE IS SOMETHING BETTER 4 U THAN THE STREETS. those championship teams were full of misguided souls.

  • chalk talk

    This is just HIGH SCHOOL sports.

    NOT 4 anyone that competes in high school sports
    how dare u say that. Are you down playing the importance.
    HIGH SCHOOL SPORTS SET THE FOUNDATION FOR THE VERY BUILDING BLOCK THAT POWER THE CHARACTER OF MANY GREAT MEN OF TODAY…