The Dublin Raiders?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, January 11th, 2008 at 3:17 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Update: A Raiders spokesman called to say the club was continuing to negotiate in good faith with Oakland and Alameda County regarding a stadium lease extension and that the Dublin visit was purely educational in nature.
In a revised version of the story in the East Bay Business Times, director of finance and technology Tom Blanda said his comments regarding Dublin were “hypothetical and not based on any desire to move the club.”
Dublin Mayor Janet Lockhart told the East Bay Business Times Friday that the Raiders are interested in building a stadium on the 180 acres of Camp Parks, currently by the U.S. Army Reserve and NASA.
Mark Davis, the son of Al Davis, and Tom Blanda, the Raiders director of finance and technology, made the pitch Thursday.
To say Lockhart isn’t interested is an understatement.
“My personal opinion is it would destroy the city of Dublin if we even considered it,” Lockhart told the Times.
According to Lockhart, Davis and Blanda said:
“‘We think the Raiders belong out here. We think we should put a stadium on this land.”
On the bright side, it presents a scenario where the Raiders are looking to stay in the East Bay when their lease expires in 2010.
(On a purely selfish note, being a Dublin resident, it would make it possible for me to ride my bike to work on game day).
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January 11th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
“(On a purely selfish note, being a Dublin resident, it would make it possible for me to ride my bike to work on game day).”
Then you would officially have my dream job.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
aren’t you guys glad I didn’t pull that 1st crap! I wasn’t even tempted
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
The classic rule of political spin: When you’re in deep trouble, create a meaningless distraction, a pathetic smokescreen to hide the real mess.
Shame on you, Jerry.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I was thing the same thing Scottish, I smell something in the timing. Clever way to get Mark’s name in the paper, as though he’s grooming somebody.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Pull this nonsense, Jerry. Let’s get back to the real issues. Mark Davis has never taken a decision in his life without asking Castro’s (sorry, Al’s) permission.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
LoL! It would make my drive to the game very short.
Ignoring history and all, it would be a nice location for a team. Dublin has I-680 and I-580 going right through it with highway 84 being near by.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
oh yeah scottish raider because this stadium idea is burning up espn right now. totally made everyone forget about the ryan deal. SMH
lol that would be nice Jerry! and you could probably use some time on that bike!! just joking of course.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
When Davis introduced Kiffin last year, I really had great feelings about all he has done for the team over the years. for some reason, the sight of him at the\at presser and thenthe walsh thing really made me feel that appreciation.
But with the Ryan thing, whatever the story is, I really appreciate that I want him to get the hell out of the way so our team can win. the only time we have won of late is when Gruden pushed him out of the way.
I hope Kiffin can do the same.
Last, I am not totally convinced that ryan is coming back. Nothing from he or kiffin and there was nothing in that release that talked about him having the job next year, more of a just stop talking about it thing. Whatever the case, if he does end up going, that is good because it means Kiffin is gettin to pushin.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2008/01/07/daily63.html?surround=lfn
January 11th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
“I was thing the same thing Scottish, I smell something in the timing. Clever way to get Mark’s name in the paper, as though he’s grooming somebody.”
KK -
So let me get this straight, conspiracy theories exist in the media only when YOU think they do? Sounds like a contradiction to me. Can’t have it both ways my friend.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Don’t go messing with my seats now … I like my seats.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Don’t look know but it looks like Raiderdogg just Marley’d KoolKell! I guess that’s not a hard thing to do but its still funny to me.
Right on Dogg!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Not sure if that actually qualifies as being “Marley’d” but I’m glad you got a kick out of it.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I didn’t know it was your sister -
Thanks for the link.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
RDogg -
Looks like you scared off Kool Kell. Once again nice work. He’ll be back when he knows you aren’t around any more and I’m sure he’ll have plenty to say. If I am here and you are not I will direct all comers to post #10!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I think this whole Rob Ryan fiasco is just a bunch of nonsense until they are able to work out a deal with whoever it is that they are planning on bringing in as the new DC.
January 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Scottish Raider and KoolKell,
Thanks for your insight. This whole thing smells like 7 day-old skunk road kill.
Hafa Adai.
January 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
This would be a good ideae… too bad the Dublin Mayor doesn’t like it…
January 11th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Jerry do you think Dublin is a good idea?
January 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
The Raiders absolutely need a new state of the art stadium! I don’t want them to change the name however…it was bad enough when they went to LA….at least they stayed in California. I live in-between LA and Oakland…and have been a Raider fan my whole life….I would find it hard to continue being a fan if they moved away like the Rams did. It is hard enough to be loyal with the state of the team as it is!
January 11th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Is there any site in “Oakland” to really build a stadium? The BART is key…
January 11th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
That would be SWEEEET!!
I live in San Ramon, directly next to Camp Parks. Jerry, maybe we could bikepool together??
There are SO MANY Raider fans in the TriValley…
January 11th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
AceyDeucy,
You seem to be obsessed with me, what’s the matter, did I show up naked at your bar mitzvah?
January 11th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
It make sense that The Raiders would be putting out feeler on a new stadium. The Collisium is old and outdated, especially when you look at some of the newer stadiums that other teams are playing in. The Raiders team value is toward the bottom of the league, and why? It has nothing to do with winning or loosing. It sure didn’t hurt the Cowboys or Redskins value when they went through some down times on the field. It is why the A’s are working so hard on a stadium deal. I love the A’s, and I eat, breath and sleep Raiders, but it has not been good for either of them to share an antiquated stadium. I think The Raiders accepted the fact a few years ago that they are locked into their lease with the colosium until 2011, but after that they need to get somewhere, hopefully in the Bay Area, where they can thrive off the field. When you go anywhere in the country you see people wearing Raiders gear. They have fans all over. (So do the Cowboys.) The support for them has held up even through four horrible years on the field, and yet they are still rated as one of the lower value teams in the league? That is why they need to get into a situation where their value can grow to what it should be.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Oh, a new stadium story, huh? Will Rob Ryan be in this new stadium as defensive coordinator? Will Greg Knapp (AKA Joenorv Callabugelshell) be Kiffin’s replacement when he inevitably walks after this season? That’s what most fans are wondering.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Don’t blame Knapp! It’s the players that aren’t getting it done! The players!!! I tell ya….
January 11th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
A’s move to Fremont, the Whiners will go to Santa Clara or possibly even L.A. and the Raiders can stay in Oakland at a refurbished and 100% all football stadium. OK, I’m dreaming a bit, but you have to start somewhere.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
“AceyDeucy,
You seem to be obsessed with me, what’s the matter, did I show up naked at your bar mitzvah?”
I knew that you seemed familiar. That was you? You caused quite the commotion. How about giving back all of those gifts that you stole from me?
January 11th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Jerry, thanks for the time and for sharing your opinion.
I know a lot of people are very dissapointed because they were anxiously waiting for you to come out and lynch Al Davis. God knows they already have…..nice to see some perspective for a change.
But don´t worry, a lot of them are soon gonna act like they always believed in the Raiders and had no doubt we were in the right track and you´ll have the full house as usual.
And thanks also for your honesty when it comes to stating the fact that Raiders information is a tricky business. As you can tell, some people will believe anything.
Keep up the good work, Raiders info may be tricky but I think you manage to do the best job with it.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
LOL…..Oh man, really…..do I really need to say anything?????.
MaddenRaider Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Jerry, what a waste of time!!! And usually on I’m your side.
You were peppered with hard ball questions from pissed off Raider fans, and you just gave one softball answer after another. Your answers were borderline team representative, even going so far as to downplay Davis’s meddling. What a time for such downplaying, right in the thick of a situation in Alameda where everyone with a 4th grade reading level knows good and well Davis and Kiffin are clashing over D coordinators, and where Davis is evidently winning out.
What a waste of time, Jerry. Scrap the chat and just blog, because that’s where you’re at your best. My guess is that some type of corporate/Raiders sponsoring bulls’t has you holding back in the chat sessions. It’s not you. It honestly read like a chat with Al Locosalle or Artie Giagintino.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Oh yeah right! like that’s going to happen, Dublin wouldn’t want me introducing them to sideshows, their Police Force isn’t big enough to handle them.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Dublin Raiders ?
Hahaha
Seriously? I bet Amy Trask is behind this!
January 11th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
MaddenRaider
So, Jerry answers direct questions for the first time and when he fails to meet your Hate-Al guidelines you accuse him of selling out?….pathethic.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Jerry answered those questions the best he could. Sure they were softballs but Jerry doesn’t know whats being said inside that Raider building anymore than Carl Steward, Monte Poole, Kawamami, or Ralph Barbieri….lmao @ Ralph!
How was Jerry supposed to answer those hard questions he doesn’t have answer for ?
January 11th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Mista…
He was supposed to blame Al for destroying Kiffin and making sure the Raiders will suck for the next decade, just like the other guys.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Hey Bob,
Did you read what he said about the prospects of the Raiders winning with Al in the Captains Chair. C’mon man. Dude.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
KK…
Of course I did, the man is entitled to an opinion. Just becaue I don´t agree does not mean I´m going for his credibility.
It´s obviuos Jerry is no big fan of Al, but at least he has a little perspective.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I think everyone at this point is at least a bit skeptical, I´m not gonna lie to you. Time will tell.
January 11th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Maddenraider: Espousing your guessing as fact and then getting upset with others that see your guessing not as a fact but as only one of many possible truths is a clear indication of narcissism coupled with a strong Oedipus complex . . .but hey I am sure you are a good boy and love your mother.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Amen Bob & Dr Phil.
Raiders for Life…I’m In!
January 11th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Alright Bob, I’ll leave you with this gem:
KoolKell: Does the Oakland Tribune or you, or Carl Steward, or Monte Poole have a bone to pick will Al Davis? Would you make up stuff to make him look bad?
Jerry McDonald: I’m assuming the second part of that question was tongue-in-cheek. (If it’s not, you’re wasting your time reading this site). It was a lot more fun to cover the Raiders when they were winning three straight division titles than in going 19-61 the past five years. Ideally, the coverage should reflect the team. The bottom line is this _ the Raiders have been back in Oakland for 13 years and have had three good teams. The last five years they’ve been the worst in the history of the franchise, not to mention the NFL. Exactly what has Davis been doing for the last half-decade that deserves hearts and flowers?
January 11th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Bland and davis had child??? Get that mofo on the field!!!
January 11th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
“You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make em drink” Someone said.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
or you can get Marley’d like you did earlier KoolKell!
That was hilarious!
January 11th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
KK…
What was that gem supposed to prove?.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
wait for it…
January 11th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
POSTED 6:24 p.m. EST, January 11, 2008
YET ANOTHER BRONCO GETS BUSTED
Well, it’s time to reset the “days without an arrest” meter. Again.
Media reports out of Denver indicate that Broncos tight end Daniel Graham, to whom the team paid big money on the 2007 free-agent market, has been busted on charges of “suspicion of criminal mischief and harassment.”
The arrest arises from an incident between Graham and his girlfriend. After an argument on Thursday resulted in a call to police by Graham’s girlfriend, she told them about an incident from Sunday during which Graham allegedly entered her house without permission, refused to leave, and damaged a bed.
Coincidentally, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen spoke out on Friday about the team’s troubles with the law. “I’ve never had a lot of tolerance for stuff like that, especially in this community.”
But yet Bowlen continues to tolerate the decisions of coach and de facto G.M. Mike Shanahan to spend Bowlen’s money on guys who engage in “stuff like that.”
looks like the Raiders aren’t the only dysfunctional organization in the NFL after all.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Warning *** Warning the statement that you are about to read are sensitive in nature and not suitable to all readers!!
Hello nation, as I was running on the treadmill, keeping with my daily routine. I was watching The patriots pursuit of perfection on the NFL channel. I have become enraged to say the least, as I watched Brady and belicheik prosper and scheme in regards to Randy moss. I’m stating it loud and clear with, all due respect. F*CK, al davis this mother *u*ker has let petty things get in the way of the oakland raiders being a franchise that’s regarded as one of the elite’s. I know and read all the loyal AD guys out there but be straight for second, who the fu!k would have Marcus Allen sit the pine in his prime, too prove a point * Who the hell would alienate a coach, (Gruden) that put in countless hours rebuilding a team that did’nt do shit, forever * Who in their right mind drafts a #1 and goes cheap * Finally who the f*ck almighty lets rumors fester in the public’s mind, like were experiencing with KIff. I’m certain their are many, many, more examples of bullsh*t things, this stupid fu*k has done. I understand he has done some great stuff as well but we got royaly f*cked with moss. Hey Davis you caved in too that dudes bullsh*t and now their rubbing it your face!!! The reason I’m coming out with such strong language isn’t only for me but as I was watching that special and they showed moss with Oakland. I could’nt help but notice the Raider APE guy, in the black hole, all happy go f**king lucky, not knowing that he’s getting f*cked every sunday. Why, because AL either wont give up control or sell the team to some Raider lover’s that have serious money and are’nt afraid to spend it. For gods sake, Al needs to stop holding on to petty grievences. Fuc* you Al, their are people in your stands that deserve better, mother f*cker!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
don’t hold back bro, let it all out!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Moss is the one that quit on his team and the Raider organization. Al Davis or no Al Davis Moss is should be sued for stealing money from the Raiders organization. Boo hoo suck it up and be a man.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
And on that jolly note…later fellas.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
A civilization which leaves so large a number of its participants unsatisfied and drives them into revolt neither has nor deserves the prospect of a lasting existence.
Sigmund Freud
January 11th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Have a good one Bob
January 11th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
right back at ya Deuce…
January 11th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
The Raiders Belong in Oakland, Bottom line!!!!
We too hardcore for Dublin. What would that sound like,? The Dublin Raiders. It has to be a conspiracy, cuz there is no way Al is going to ruin our Tradition with a city like Dublin. The Raiders are a urban team, therefore we need a Urban city. Hell L.A. sounds better than Dublin.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
SO selfish. Can i move in with you?
January 11th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
The name won’t change, it’ll remain Oakland as long as they’re in the area.
As for Al, I trust the man who worked for everything he has in Oakland. To go from Brooklyn to owner of the Raiders is awesome.
I wouldn’t be a fan if it weren’t for Al. Considering our history and that only 5 years ago we were in the Super Bowl, I can’t bitch at all.
Imagine being a Cincinnati Bungals fan, Cardinals, Falcons, etc. They deal with a lot of change too, but don’t have any rings to show for it.
For all the bad Al’s done, it was all done in trying to do everything he knows how to for his team. He’s done a lot of good too.
Regardless of what happens, I won’t be out, I’ll always be in.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
As I’ve said, the Chargers just won their first playoff game in 13 years. The Dalls Cowboys haven’t won one in 11 years. The Whiners haven’t been to a Super Bowl in 14 years. What are some of you whining about???? Sigtn up for Maddenraider’s Whine Train and I’ll buy you a tom Brady or Peyton Manning jersey and you can root for whatever team you whiners want tomorrow.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. – Rita Mae Brown
It’s funny how many of these apply to this team.
I’m not a big Al hater. But I do get tired of having new coaches all the time and getting my hopes up every year. I do wish he would cut the cord and let Kiff take total control for a few years and see where we end up. Couldn’t be any worse. But I here ya Oak and Jeremy.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
actually HR if Davis left Art Shell as head coach I would agree with the insanity quote for sure. This team has bottomed out and is heading in the right direction RR or no RR. I think the neglect the team has paid toward the defensive line along with lack of continuity are the number one reasons this team has sunk down. With an overall number one we drafted offense, a need position (QB) and did well. Now with another high pick, let’s go D, DL (another position of need), and I have faith this team will right itself fairly quickly
January 11th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
You mention Art Shell. He lives here in Reno. I use to see him at leased once a week. He never said that he did. But I really and truly feel he took the job to bail Al out. I don’t think Al was close to getting anyone and Art took one for the team.
And yes I do think the ship turned around this year. But I really hope none of this has any truth to it. I really wish Kiff had the power to do what he sees fit as far as any on field decisions.
Plus a good friend of Al’s a real hands on owner. But as of late he seems to be doing it better then Al. (Noted Oak 11 years and counting)
January 11th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Plus I’m not a RR hater either. I think it was as much him as the players. But I will admit I’m not as keen on the D side of the ball as some in here.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Mcfadden finally declared for the draft…
January 11th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
I want the Jags to beat the Cheaters soooo bad tomorrow!!!! Smug A$$ mo fo’s!
January 11th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
sacramento raiders
January 11th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
So this is what we’ve come to…5 years of frickin’ HELL. 19 paltry wins, and 61 freakin’ losses. I don’t blame ANYBODY for damning the soul of our franchise, and heck, even jumping ship.
But stay together, Raider Nation! We have already bottomed out! Ryan or not, we now have Lane Kiffin and JaMarcus Russell. Just like Star Wars, Episode IV, there IS A New Hope. Just hang in there a little bit longer….
January 11th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
If the Raiders move they may cease to exist as the Raiders. Remember, the NFL allowed Cleveland to retain the rights to the Browns name. Oakland would probably have that same right. The difference is is that Oakland would never qualify for another NFL team since the NFL has twice failed there. Too bad. Bye Bye Raiders. I guess we will have to become Dublin Donkey fans.
Lakers rule.
Draft McFadden!
January 11th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
South Dakota needs a team. How does the Rapid City Raiders sound? Or the Sioux Falls Raiders? Our stadiums are better than Oakland’s, but that does not take much does it?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Wow, Oakglenn…I didn’t even see your post #60 till just now. That’s kinda creepy…
Obviously, I know where you’re coming from.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Dublin should be HONORED the Raiders would even consider them!!
We’d also have another source for recruiting talent, with Santa Rita Jail right next door to Camp Parks!!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:00 am
There is a big difference between those who just hate the Raiders and those of us who are critical of Al Davis. This team, this franchise is in serious trouble and needs sorting out. That requires strong and effective leadership. Something Al Davis is not displaying at the moment.
Anthony Carroll is the moderator on realfootball365.com and is usually a very careful and considered commentator. But I think you might be interested in what he had to say yesterday:
“There is something about the way Davis does business. The longtime owner controls one of just 32 NFL head coaching jobs in the world, and he still has had trouble finding and keeping candidates in recent history. And when it seems like things are finally going well, he does something to ruin the relationship. Think: Jon Gruden, Bill Callahan and, now, Kiffin.
There have now been a over a dozen near-identical reports all laying out the same storyline this offseason: Kiffin wasn’t happy with the job Ryan did in 2007; as a result, he was intending on firing the D-coordinator; Ryan, then, was planning on taking a position with the New York Jets; then, Kiffin would hire a new coordinator, preferably one familiar with the Tampa 2 defense.
It was simple enough, until Davis did what he’s been criticized harshly for since Oakland lost the Super Bowl back in 2002: meddle in day-to-day team operations. Now, Kiffin has remained rather quiet since then, likely choosing that route instead of making matters worse than they already are now.
Davis, who first began his stint as the Raiders’ general manager 45 years ago, seems to grow more determined, but he’s also more involved with each passing year. Unfortunately, as hard as it may be for team loyalists to face this fact, the game has passed Davis by.
It’s a harsh reality, but until Davis steps down from his dominant role, every offseason in Oakland will take the form of this one: confusing, controversial and utterly unnecessary.”
Al Davis ain’t listening and nobody inside the Davis Family or Alameda seems to have the guts to tell him the truth.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:09 am
OK what would be so wrong with the Raiders keeping the name “Oakland Raiders” AND having a new stadium built in Dublin. Let’s see the “New York” Giants play in New Jersey as do the “New York” Jets. The “New England” Patriots play in Foxboro etc. I love the Raiders and I love them being in Oakland but the Coliseum-love it for the memories but it is run down. The bathrooms are in shambles, with the A’s being in there the turf is a joke. What would be so wrong with the Raiders getting a new stadium. I could tell you that with a new stadium and making the game experience a little more friendly for the casual fan we would never have problems selling out.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:35 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak
Marcus Allen on whether his Raiders would beat the Pats.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:27 am
Thanks for the link Aussie… That Raiders team would crush the spy-patsies!
January 12th, 2008 at 1:28 am
No way a new stadium goes up anywhere in the Bay Area, Raiders or 49′ers.
Publicly financed stadiums (ballot approved bond initiatives), are dead in the water anymore. Joe Sixpack isn’t that dumb.
Thankfully Candlestick makes The Coliseum look like the Taj Mahal.
Given the broader state of our economy, I think we’ll all be fine with the current site, even Al.
Let’s just start winning more F’ing games!
Cheers & In For Life!,
Ian
January 12th, 2008 at 1:31 am
Jerry, and anyone else.. Are the A’s also looking at Dublin or was it Pleasanton??
January 12th, 2008 at 1:51 am
Why don’t the Raiders move back to LA?
The NFL want them to go back.
The City of LA are encouraging and supportive.
The financial arguement is an absolute no-brainer.
This franchise needs a new start.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:59 am
This story is a Wag The Dog diversion of sorts.
But it also just fuels the flames of chaos in the “Organization”.
1)Head coach on thin ice.
2)Power struggle.
3)No place to play.
The quote by Blanda was interesting.
“That just helps us to continue to negotiate in good faith and to continue to negotiate with the highest level of … not options, but knowing as much as we can know going into negotiations,” Blanda said.
Good faith my ass. It’s the typical Raider way of dealing with things. Blackmail and playing hard ball. We seem to use this strategy with our own coaches, players and now home town.
Maybe we should try to do it with the teams we make deals with, instead of getting fleeced like we did by the Patriots in the Randy Moss deal.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:39 am
# Aussie Raider Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 12:35 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak
Marcus Allen on whether his Raiders would beat the Pats.
………..
What a breath of fresh air. And, of course he says “yes”. And, those Raiders would have. That Raider team was managed by people that really did want to win more badly than any other executives, and didn’t just say so and have their brain dead followers repeat it like parrots, like we have today.
When she brought up Moss, Marcus said they had Lester Hayes at one end and Mike Haynes at the other. That was his answer. No more words were needed. What a great clip, and it’s good to see Marcus. A Ron Wolf prodigy, our all time leading rusher and as much of a Raider as anyone who’s ever worn the silver and black, as Howie Long said in his introduction in Marcus’s book.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:45 am
Copenhagen, that’s an excellent point, and something I haven’t given much thought. If Al Davis played as much hardball with other franchises as he plays with the very people that work underneath him, he might really be one of the best GM’s in the game. Maybe that’s it, right there. Back when the Raiders were good, is it possible it’s because then Al Davis held more contempt for the league’s other franchises than he did for the people working underneath him? What an interesting prospect.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:52 am
I loved it when he said no matter what happened during the week come sunday they were all prepared and focused on the game
January 12th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Al Davis should keep right on rollin’ down the highway…all the way to L.A. He can take the players (who mostly stink anyway) but the Raiders name,logo, colors, history, etc. stay with Oakland. We’ll get a new team and be well rid of him. He can put his 82 year old (in 2011)”genius” mind to use designingpass plays for the “L.A. Gangstuhs.” Would we really have been any worse off watching an expansionteam the last five Years?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:07 am
Hey kk or BHP ,its about time you “lifers” put guys
straight about this whole “how they look coming off the bus” thing,too many people in here think its about
looking athletic.Really some people need to check history and facts.
heres a link, http://www.raidershistory.net.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:12 am
OH i think AL hired lane due to the fact that he could deliver monte “the lynchpin of tampabay” kiffin from bruce allen & jon gruden!at tampa bay!
so hopefully this happens @ end of month!
if not then that means that kiffin had/has no clue about just how bad of coach this ryan is,
and anything he tries just simply will not work! put our def numbers on indys’/pats/chargers etc strong playoff teams! and are they 11-13-& 16 win teams??? no of course not ! other then colts in 06 (cause they have manning)no team can go to playoffs as a strong team& win!!!wo/ a defense that does at least 1 thing well!!! we dont do any one aspect of defense well!!! not a one!!!!
if we ranked #1 in rush off! we would still be 32nd & dead last vs run & still be 4-12 !!!! ya know if ryan had merryman,where would he play ??? well obviously rite where burgess is now@@ sde!!! so you cant give this guy talent!! he will only RUIN THERE CAREERS!! LIKE HES BEEN DOING!! SO YOU PEOPLE THINK IF HES’ COACH 1 MORE YEAR ! IS O.K. WELL YOU ARE ALL NUTS !!! AND YOU LIKE BEING 4-12 EVERY YEAR !!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 5:24 am
hey soul you forgot that in 06 teams were running right side @ 5+yds carry! and left @under 1 yd carry!!!
mainly due to brayton/sapp/howard triangle on left! in 06!and right side he had/has burgess@250lb,wiliams(softvsrun)& a 195 lb fluid longstriding free safety playin strong saftey named mike huff!!
so all teams will go run right!off tackle vs that!like they did!
so what does this idiot ryan do for 07 ? he adresses this with benching brayton?? , and putting in john richardson? a guy who is not strong vs run,& not fast enuff to pass rush!we had 1 sack from brayton in 06 & we have 1 sack from richardson!so no improvement there!
and we dont have a better run def !! due to richrdson being to soft vs run!teams were taking turns running left end running right end! look at the playbyplays!! in every game! this is the fact!!truth! so the only change he made in 2007 to adress the poor run def!was bench the guy that made the run def better, tyler brayton
!and replace him w/ a 5th rd draft choice (jrichrdson) who was just as shocked as is was that he wasnt cut!other then that every year he seems to create problems for this team being able to pass rush & run defend!
you left this part out !!! KINDA LIKE HE IS DOING IT ON PURPOSE!!!! OH I AM SORRY THATS RIGHT ! AL DAVIS MADE HIM DO IT!!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Here’s an idea; if the Fremont stadium deal works out for the A’s, just rip down the existing Coliseum and rebuild in the same place. The Raiders could play at Stanford and/or Berkeley until it’s finished…?
January 12th, 2008 at 5:39 am
Towsend, I think you are a bit tough on Jay Richardson. I think he showed a lot of heart and some potential.
However, you are right about Ryan’s inability to find and maintain the right combinations: Sapp and Sands never worked. Williams/Thomas and Burgess never worked. Huff and Morrison never worked. Huff and Schweigert never worked. These failings raise two fundamental questions about Rob Ryan’s capability:
1) Why was Ryan unable to fix the problems that were evident in the first four games?
2) What is it about Ryan’s schemes and/or coaching that makes so many college stars (Grove, Gallery, Brayton, Washington, Huff, etc.) so disappointing in the pros?
Rob Ryan’s brother Rex is a hard-nosed disciplinarian who has established a high standards, high accountability culture in Baltimore. Rex has managed some big personalities and some even bigger egos, but he has always put out a driven, highly motivated and smart defense. The sad truth is that Rob Ryan is a pale, pale shadow of his brother.
We have the runt of the Ryan litter.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:04 am
Many of the Raider fan base who live in the Dublin/Tri-valley area came from the Oakland area. The Tri-Valley would be great. Can you imagine a night game in the valley. Check out the NFL and see who has a city name but are not located in the city of its name. You can start with New York and Dallas. However, don’t get to worried about the Raiders moving to the valley, most of the city councils are to liberal to want a sport franchise located in the city. They would perfer a civic light opera, not football. I bet Mayor Lockhart would okay an opera house in the center of her city. She probably never heard of the Raiders or American Football. It tells you how close minded she is when she immediately said “no”. However, if you saw the apartment/condo complexes she has authorized in Dublin you would understand her priorities, and the traffic congestion she has created. No to football, but yes to human density. Hey Mayor Lockhart, instead of saying no, why not try and look at a way it could enhance Dublin, but I’m sure that would never be considered. Typical Politician, its the traffic stupid.
condos condos condos on the new land…
January 12th, 2008 at 6:05 am
The main reason Rex Ryan’s defenses have been hard-nosed and accountable is Ray Lewis. Until we have someone on defense that commands respect and kicks a** when the situation calls for it we will not have the same success. Coaching is one thing, but if the players don’t hold themselves accountable it all falls apart on the field. Can you imagine RayRay putting up with some of the lack of focus and discipline we displayed out there this year? He would have hurt somebody by the third quarter of week #1…
January 12th, 2008 at 6:56 am
Most fans keep discussing the importance of a new DC to help boost the now struggling defensive unit of our team. To me it matters little who they are as long as they’re successful and can bond with the players. Ryan had the bond but not necessarily the success. For everyone who would like to see Monte Kiffin as the new DC, per ESPN.com Insider one day ago, it’s rumored that Carroll would bring him on in Atlanta if he’s hired because they’re long-time friends. If Carroll decides not to join Atlanta they may hire Kiffin anyway.
January 12th, 2008 at 7:38 am
raiderfrom birth, good point
January 12th, 2008 at 8:01 am
http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/01/12/mcfadden-going-pro-sun-rising-in-east/
Mcfadden is in play…
January 12th, 2008 at 8:17 am
For my own selfish reasons I would love the Raiders to move to Sacramento, where I beleive they could sell out luxury boxes and premium seats to fat cat politicians the way the pricey “Kings Row” seats sell out at Arco Arena for Kings games regardless of a winning season.
I currently take a chartered Rooter Bus from Sacramento to Oakland for home games and tailgate festivities, which is fun too.
I like Koolkell’s posts, and look forward to reading them. I usually skip through a blur of boring chatter boxes until I find some of his posts (assume it’s a him.) You guys sure give him a lot of grief. Keep it up Koolkell, you add a lot of color to this blog, I want to see you post more!
I’m both frustrated and nostalgic about Al Davis. I know becuase of his age and health his time at the Raider helm is growing short. He reminds me of my own father who is in his 80’s, who keeps a tighter nad tighter grip on the only things he thinks he knows and can control, as things around him become unmanageable and foggy, he clings to what he thinks he knows and defends it without using clear logic or reason.
“To do the same thing over and over and expect new reslults, is the defintion of crazy.”
NorCal Raiders, playing in the Al Davis Stadium, Sacramento, California, 2011.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Has anyone heard any rumors about Huff being traded? If you look at RaiderImage, the Huff jerseys are all on sale along with the Porter, Jordan and Sweigart jerseys. Interesting. The same thing happened to the Philip Buchanon jerseys a couple months before he was traded for picks. Of course, it could just be that they have too much inventory of Huff jerseys b/c everyone’s buying Russell jersey’s now and they anticipate large sales on our new pick’s jersey this summer. Still, if Huff gets trade the RaiderImage will be my new source for who is staying and who is going.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Sacrement fella
I know luxury boxes is important to a stadium, but hopefully not too many, sports is for the brutes…
Bucs’, Malcolm Glazer has almost ruined the atmosphere in Man U games, by brown-nosing the guys in suits. The ticket prize has risen, the old ordinary fan doesn’t have that kind of money,(~$80) and Man U got a $481m turnover for 07/08 season, a 27% rise.
well I bet you guys thing the prize in alamede is too steep
just my 2 cents…
January 12th, 2008 at 9:06 am
nice post sacramento raider.they should move to sac. as for the crazy davis, i totally agree.i really think its going to get ugly and embarising for fanz when it gets to the point that he’s so crazy that he’ll be forced out by the league or family.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:08 am
I also live in the tri-valley and would love to have the Raiders here. The mayor of Dublin isn’t too bright. How would 10 games a year (on the weekend no less) ruin the city? She needs to think before she speaks.
Also, I have a friend who went to high school with Mark Davis. She has one word to describe him:
LOSER
January 12th, 2008 at 9:39 am
the last thing we residents of Dublin want is rowdy Raider fans pissing all over the place on game day or better yet blood spilled over someone wearing another teams shirt to the game
January 12th, 2008 at 9:49 am
just kidding I am just busting your chops, I don’t live there. i think the mayor is right though, why would you want to put a stadium in the middle of a small city? Maybe to get out of Oakland, high murder rates and violence may scare some familes off and believe me, teams want businesses and families at their games. That is money in the bank
January 12th, 2008 at 9:51 am
When they were in LA, where was in that they were trying to build a stadium, irwin? Does it fit the Dublin profile?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:57 am
HEY scott notice the other postrs’ always find a un-definable problem with the talent!!! as opposed to the actual problem!1 COACH & 1 COACH ONLY!!!ROBRYAN!!
” AW WE NEED SOEMONE THAT KICKS SOME ASS, thats why ravens are good they have raylewis!”
they werent shit till rex showed up & put thomas & suggs on map!
& they play them where they belong! if RObryan had the same talent ,he would have
ed reed wasting away
@ s.s,or lbr?
ray lewis wasting away @SDE!as a “run plugger cause thats a mismatch” DAAHHH!!!
he wouldve cut nagata because he dont get any sacks! and he’d have chris mcalister a big physical cb paying vs the other teams smallest fastest wideout like he does now nahamdi!why not? it is what he does now!
total contrast to what REX does!
MY raiders!! have better talent then those ravens! AND IT IS ALL GOING TO WASTE FOR LAST 4 YEARS NOW CAUSE OF THIS BUM!! ROBRYAN!!! THE ONLY problem with raiders has been ROBRYAN and anyone that has gone along with him!!! and as much as i admire/respect al davis if he is the on that has facilitated robryan , then hes’ gotta go too unfortunatley!!!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Don’t assume I’m a fella!!
If the Raiders relocated to Sacramento they could better accomodate fans from not only a rapidly growing Sacramento but Roseville, Rockin, Davis, Woodland, Stockton, Modesto, Lodi, Fresno, Marysville, etc.
Fans from Oakland could take a sponsored Rooter bus to the games like I currently do from Sacramento to Oakland. For $50 I get a ride to and from Sacramento to the front door of the Coliseum on a luxury bus with a clean bathroom. It includes a free adult beverage on the bus served by the president of the club and a catered tailgate spread at the Coliseum with tri-tip steak, BBQ ribs, raffle prizes of Raider gear, and a t.v. to watch the morning games. No traffic to fight, no parking fees, no DUI, and I can bring my own ice chest of cold beer for the tailgate. Valley fans should check it out: http://www.raiderrooters.com/
January 12th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Hey KoolKell,
Look at post #93. Someone from Suckramento likes you and thinks you add COLOR to the blog…
Now THAT’S FUNNY!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:02 am
oh p.s. DARNELL BING IS NOW A JET!!! we’ll see how bad he is now with for the first time he’ll actually have a full mini camp & preseason!! gee i wonder if the jets will play him @ mlbr! like that rat ryan did!!!
he was exactly what we need a big physical STRONG SAFETY that supports the run!! him & HUFF couldve brought back the 70’s “SOULPATROL” w/ tatum/atkins/davis!! well if ryan caoched then hed have tatum @ mlbr! & sistrunk playin olbr!!no question!
and my raiders wouldve never had ripped off 7 div titles 1 super bowl! and madden wouldve been fired after a couple of years !!! kinda like what is goin on now!!! cause of that “STUMBLEBUM RYAN” all you robryan people dont deserve the raiders! you should follow him wherever he goes !!! I’LL SEE TO IT!!!! LOOSERRSS!!!ALL OF YOU!! make me sick!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:12 am
I live in the valley and the raider rooters suck big time, big rip off
January 12th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Since the Raiders have a national (and beyond) following … as this blog shows, can someone clue me in on where the hell Dublin is? Is this anywhere near Oakland? East coasters want to know …
January 12th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Dublin is approximately 30 - 35 miles east of Oakland
January 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
The MdFadden news is great. I do not think the Raiders need a RB, but the more top talent available, the more other teams would be willing to give up to move up in the draft. Here is to all the top talent kicking a$$ at the combine.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Sacatomato Raider Fan = KoolKell
It’s the only explanation, because there is no way that someone would actually think that FoolKell adds anything but crap to this blog.
Way to pat yourself on the back FoolKell
January 12th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Sac would be great for one reason…I would save 2 hrs driving time. I would rather see them rebuilt on the current site. For those of you in the Bay whats the likely hood of that happening?
January 12th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Yeah…..what are the chances of the coliseum being imploded and a new stadium erected right there?!?! Meanwhile playing their games at Cal or Stanford or even San Jose? Not real familiar ….but aren’t those sites old and run down too?
January 12th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Dublin is in the middle of the Pleasanton corridor and could mean more luxury box sales. It has BART access and could pull from the Stockton / Tracy area. It is all still more likely a negotiating tactic since Dublin lacks the tax base to provide ANY sort of funding or infrastructure help.
As for the Al / Kiffin / Ryan issue, I just have one question: Given the secretive nature of all the people involved, there likely aren’t more than 5 people on the planet who know what’s really going on. Why listen to people who have no clue? EVERY one of the reports I’ve read or heard has been SPECULATION. I can speculate, anybody can. ESPN speculated Mike Vick wouldn’t be charged. Nancy Gay speculated Sapp would be cut pre 2007. About a million people speculated Russell would start the Denver game.
We’ll see what happens but even Al has to see that of the ROOKIE head coaches in 2007, Kiffin is one of the best. More heralded Cameron and Patrino are gone. Tomlin and Whisenhunt did less with more. Kiffin’s not going anywhere soon.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Darnell Bing lives on like a bad rash. Yes, we’ll see and when he goes nowhere we won’t hear anybody pop up and admit they were wrong.
Yep, a fan who has never seen the guy in practice or on film or in person is soooooo much smarter than the 3 head coaches, 3 defensive coordinators and 32 scouting departments that said he isn’t worth squat.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
COW
WEll said
We’ll see what happens but even Al has to see that of the ROOKIE head coaches in 2007, Kiffin is one of the best. More heralded Cameron and Patrino are gone. Tomlin and Whisenhunt did less with more. Kiffin’s not going anywhere soon.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
T Rackett Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Sacatomato Raider Fan = KoolKell
It’s the only explanation, because there is no way that someone would actually think that FoolKell adds anything but crap to this blog.
Way to pat yourself on the back FoolKell
I don’t think that’s kk he can’t write that well. and to much thought as well.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
“JayP Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
T Rackett Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Sacatomato Raider Fan = KoolKell
It’s the only explanation, because there is no way that someone would actually think that FoolKell adds anything but crap to this blog.
Way to pat yourself on the back FoolKell
I don’t think that’s kk he can’t write that well. and to much thought as well.”
Nice try FoolKell, we all know this is you as well. Stop frontin on everyone on this blog!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
After researching Rex Ryan to see how he compares to his brother I found out the Baltimore defense in points scored (the only D stat that matters) was 22nd this year giving up 24 points a game, meanwhile our D gave up 24.9.
In ‘04 their D was ranked 6th in D points scored, in ‘05 when Ryan became DC they dropped to 22nd, ‘06 drafted Ngata and become #1, only to fall all the way down to 22 in ‘07.
However, the one positive stat for Rex has been his rush D. In ‘04 they gave up 105 yards a game and now it’s 79.
I have twin daughters and it’s amazing to see the difference in the two, however one doesn’t blow the another one away in intelligence.
It’s like Rob was the party animal and fried his brain and Rex plays smart. Pops was obviously an assh*le, but knew his defense. He led some of the most infamous D’s to ever play the game. His Chicago & Philly D’s were effin awesome.
Rex obviously fell close to the tree but somehow Rob must’ve rolled further down the slope.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
This is related to post #48
This is what Al has caused and In too deep is right.
http://www.bizjournals.com/eastbay/othercities/sacramento/stories/2007/11/19/daily13.html
January 12th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
In Too Deep is nothing but a crybaby. Careful Big Ern not to get lumped in with him as a whining little girl
January 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Far up in the postings, In Too Deep went ballistic on AD. Many of the points were speculative, since nobody really knows what the real conversations are. But one thing does need to be addressed in that what he claims is a knock that I see as a positive.
He smacked Al for not giving Jamarcus’s agent his demands and creating a hold out situation. But I can bet that every other owner in the league was silently applauding Al for this. He showed the ballz to do what no others would and that’s to stop this insane escalation of guaranteed long term money to unproven top picks. By not caving in as others have, he not only helped to slow this yearly increase — and we’ll see the fruits of that in the ‘08 first pick negotiations — but he also mitigated current and future damage against the Raiders salary cap.
For those of you screaming to sign the top FA at every position this year, just where do you think that cap space is going to come from? For every single major signing, there’s a long term cap impact that plays into the ability to sign the next big player years down the road. Building a championship team is not a sprint and it takes careful long term planning, both in terms of talent and in managing the cap. Don’t overlok how much better the Raiders are than most other teams at the latter.
What this shows is that Al is going to stick to his principals no matter what. Many claim the NFL has passed him by. In some ways yes, but in other ways it shows that he knows that it’s moved in the wrong direction and that he’s going to be the first to stand up and do something about it. This is how he earns that unheralded respect amongst the other owners that turns into clout when discussing new rulings, financial policy, etc. that ultimately make the whole league better for all.
And even if such actions come at the price of short term success for the Raiders, I applaud him for this and am a prouder Raider fan because of it! I’ll take the level of integrity — yes, integrity does happen in Raiders circles — over win at all costs approaches like Patriots illegal taping schemes or Whiner cap abuse tactics any day.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Or how about the Broncos and the Super Bowls they won? They were and completely knew they were over the salary cap each year and were later fined.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Dakota and others like me who like DMac:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/2007-06-28-mcfadden-sw-feature_N.htm
Article written prior to -’07 season about DMac. Obviously we’ve heard about the character concerns, but this is an interesting article. He’s a big goof ball.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Thanks Sacto Fan,
But I like the Dublin Idea better, really the home of the early season ticket holders. It’s definitely Raider territory. He won’t be able to pull an Irvindale there.
Troll,…..
January 12th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Zymurge…..It will be interesting to see if any of this years top draft picks sign with the agents JR used.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
People love me.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Beach,
It’s sad, that this country continues to produce people like you.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Beach Boy, You’re weak!
January 12th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
KoolKell,..people love you?…you consider these faceless typists in here people?…..hardly,..just a bunch of “shut-ins” who since the invention of the internet no longer are people,..they dont leave the house unless they have to for work,…they get everything they need in life from the internet,..shopping, entertainment,…sex,…people?…lol,..not even close.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
So the Raiders are moving to Ireland? That makes for a short commute for Scottish Raider…….( O.K. bad joke) But seriously, everyone is going off half cocked about what’s going on internally with the Raiders. No one but the insiders knows for sure. I would think that Al Davis and Kiffin are very excited about coaching the Senior bowl, so they can get a superior look at all of the college talent AND schmooze with everyone else in the league in order to possibly poach a DC from some other team. They don’t want to send Ryan on his way without having someone else in there to replace him first.
Also, although I am no fan of Rob Ryan, I think he plays much too soft and does not require nearly enough discipline, he is not completely to blame for the defense’s failure. Football is an incredibly emotional game and the defense CAN’T play at their best if they know the offense is just going to putz around.
Between a new offensive system, Josh McCown’s extreme incompetence, and Kiffin’s pathetic playcalling, the defense has little reason to get psyched up for battle. I know some people will say that they are getting paid millions to play regardless of the circumstances on the field. Those people are right ……….but only to a degree. Players want to see results for all of their hard work, so when our defense gets a three and out, it’s depressing to see the offense choke and give the ball right back again. One hand washes the other. Improvement on offense will also help the defense.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Packers are off to a good start
January 12th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I second that
January 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
When you talk about moving the Oakland Raiders, the demise of the Raiders began immediately upon their arrival in LA. They won a Super Bowl their first year there and after all their Oakland momemtum left a couple of years later, they went straight downhill. All the ridiculous makeup and getups that people wear to games began with LA Raider fan.
It has been a tough road to hoe here in Oakland building back up a winning attitude and tradition. We did get to a Super Bowl here. Without the 1990 LA Raider team that went to the AFC Championship game only to lose 51-3,when the LA Raiders were .500 or slightly above, it was a good year for them. Think about that when you think of moving the team, especially back to LA.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
that hit gave new meaning to the term Rastaman Vibration!
January 12th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
man we need someone like bigby
January 12th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Dmac’s daddy says he didnt send in the draft papers
http://www.nbcsports.com/portal/site/nbcsports/menuitem.6f806e473b4cb158fb00ec22493c2d04/?vgnextoid=0dd3388af7f67110VgnVCM10000075c1d240RCRD&vgnextchannel=9f23d5e59df02110VgnVCM100000dc032c03RCRD&vgnextfmt=default
January 12th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
#129
I wasnt always this way. I had some fond memories of what its like to actually have a life.
January 12th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Dakota and Jeremy are probaly still out celebrating Dmac entering the draft.
“I hate to be saying anything because all these false stories and everything are floating around,” Graylon McFadden told The Associated Press on Saturday. “But no I didn’t — and that’s all I’ve got to say.”
January 12th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Bigby just made another highlight film play.
The Packers may have the best shot of beating the hated patsies if Bigby and Woodson bring their A game.
January 12th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I think someone is posting stupid crap under a bunch of different “regulars” names just to try and ruin this site. Ain’t gonna happen.
January 12th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I second that again
January 12th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
oakglenn, you’re so tough, man I wish I was like you, heheheheh
January 12th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
El Tato…
Congrats… Sevilla was nowhere to be found..
January 12th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
BoJax… yeah, the Stanford and Berkeley sites are old, but they would be temporary housing for the team until the new stadium is built. Something definitely needs to be done, though; the Mausoleum is old old old, and it’s not like we’re talking Wrigley or Fenway here…
January 12th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Taking the “high” road on this one
January 12th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Check this mock out - very interesting to say the least and well opined on. Bottom line - of major notation - they believe Long will go 1st (I sorta concur) - Ellis will go before Dorsey (wow - shocker! - but like I’ve said before some believe Ellis is just as good if not Better than Dorsey) - and Dorsey will fall to us (I really wouldn’t be that upset with this outcome).
http://www.nflfans.com/x/view.php?pg=officialmock1_2008
What I did notice was that for all the commentary I read the reasoning for the picks were sound. They have us picking Adarius Bowman in 2nd.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I would love to see Chris Long in S&B b/c I believe he is For Real, but I think there’s a very good chance he’s gonna go #1 to Miami. If Tuna finds the D-Coord to institute a 3-4 scheme Long may end up being a better fit than Dorsey. If they stay with the 4-3 then Dorsey has a better chance at #1. Either way Long/Dorsey/or Ellis - who can complain?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Terrapin, that is an awesome mock. Just imagine Dorsey and Bowman….that would be sweet. I was thinking either Dorsey and Lawrence Jackson or Ali Highsmith!!! Raider Defense???? Problem SOLVED!
January 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Go Jaguars!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Dorsey would really be nice. We’ll see. I never paid much attention to Ali during the bowl game.
I noticed that the commentary was headed “Raider War Room Discussiion” or some other team war rooom discussion. So the picks may actually be concensus picks amoungst fans who know their team best - thus much more reliable imo - at least 1st round. The deeper you go in rounds the less likely you are to get it right.
Rebuilding the Oakland Raiders through LSU? Why not they are arguably the best team in the country…
January 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Hey Mr. settle down, you little puss, you only came out with that name immediately after I went on a posting rampage #48. You can’t even use your original post name, OK whatever.
Bottom line I’m sick of seeing fans like ape man, shoulder pad spike man, darth vader man, Hey, call them what you will, Oakland fan’s are in a whole different league of loyalty, they, we, deserve better already, than the run of the mill franchise fan’s and I’m sick of AD messing things up!
Zymurge, I respect the hell out of the way your able too argue your point, your just behind Jedi in that regard but Integrety is’nt Al’s motovation, it’s hardheaded greed, the man’s petty and cheap.
All of you, straight up, live and die for ad guys, check it, uncle sam’s been around for over 200 years but I hate it when he come’s knocking on my door every april!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
and let’s not forget National Champions!!! Raul, that was a bit trippy, you know great minds think alike.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Do you guys see how big the Jaguars Defensive line is? Our team needs to take some notes.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Of course…Brady still sliced through that defense in the same way that offenses slice through ours. The Jags only seem to be rushing 4 each time. The only problem I see with the big defensive line is they don’t have as much speed as ours but they stop the run. I still think you have to start with that.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Actually notice the Joke-sonville Defensive Inside Tackles. When was the last time our tackles made plays like that.
No big deal. the Idiots obviously scripted their first 15 plays and ran them well. It happens.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Jacksonville rushes 3 men on 4 and 4 and Brady beats it easily. The 3 man rush NEVER works.
The only way to beat Brady is to blitz him and beat him up.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
The only thing scarier than Al Davis running the Raiders is the thought of Mark Davis running the Raiders. Our glory days are probably over boys.
January 12th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Green Bay ran for 235 yards on the vaunted Seattle D today. They only put a buck seventy eight on us and we thought the world had ended.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Actually, Townsend, Baltimore’s defense was dominant way before Rex Ryan. Guy by the name of Marvin Lewis was the coordinator there, and Suggs and Adalius Thomas (who plays for the Patriots now, by the way) were not on the team. Nor, for that matter, was Ed Reed. The constant on that defense is, and has been for a long time, Ray Lewis. He is the one that has kept the tradition alive on defense in Baltimore, and guys have to answer to him if they screw up. We need someone like that, and our D will be a lot better if and when we can get an on-field and locker room leader like Ray. I think Warren Sapp tried, but he was basically a cartoon character his last few years on the job and didn’t carry the big stick like Ray does.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
why move to dublin when they’ll have the Coliseum all to themselves when the A’s move?
January 12th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
how do like them apples, the patriot fans booing their team, bunch of jack asses, they have no idea how bad It could get!!
January 12th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
for me the I’m living voraciously thru the jags, well at least they have black pants?….
January 12th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
Interesting, hearing the comments from Cowher and Marino at halftime. Talking about short passing game and controlling the clock on offense, and not a lot of blitzing with a (basically) four-man front and keeping everything in front of the defense as being the way to win this game.
Sounds familiar somehow. Maybe now Kiffin will get a little credit for having an idea about what he’s doing. It’s the players, folks. We get some better ones and instill a little more discipline to the defense we’ll be a much improved team.
January 12th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Dummy
January 12th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
jags playing the “bend, don’t break” defense? sounds familiar….looks like that bitch-made Raider defense I had to watch for the last couple of years!!!! What? A touchdown after a nice 6 minute drive? What a surprise!!!!, why not do a two man rush and have more stumbling coverage to watch welker stand untouched and uncovered!!?!?!
January 12th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Mr. Sinister… based on the pass protection he’s getting, what would you differently? I’m just curious, because guys like Brady eat the blitz for breakfast. The idea here is simple; the more plays you make them run, the more opportunities you have to take the ball away and you are less likely to get burned by the big play. Which they’ve had some success with this year, I think.
January 12th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
I’d have to look at the Baltimore defense of being aggressive with the wide outs allowing little to no rhythm, accompanied by smart blizting. just a thought
January 12th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
I think that’s a big reason why New England is so much better than they were last year; they upgraded the wideout position(s) bigtime. If you are aggressive with those guys you’d better have safety support because if you miss (and you could, because these guys are good) you’ll get burned for sure.
It would be fun to see Randy get smacked in the face a couple of times, though.
January 12th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
And as we’ve just seen, safety support on the wideouts opens up the middle…
It’s just real hard to beat a team that executes as well as they do.
January 12th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
jack del rio will be saying, “if you wanna go ahead and crown em, then crown thier ass!” here comes the turnover
January 12th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
jags played not to lose, that’s why they’ll lose
January 12th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
All the Jags were lacking was a pass rush. They just don’t have a potent pass rush. Can’t keep giving Brady all day.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Into Deep…
”Integrety is’nt Al’s motovation, it’s hardheaded greed, the man’s petty and cheap.”
Yeah, I´m sure all the support and money Davis has devoted througout the years to help former players, employees and coaches in trouble or sickness tipped you off uh?…
Way off on that one dude.
Also…on the field…
Jerry McDonald: The Raiders have proved in the past that where they are against the cap bears no relation to their ability to sign a player they want. It’s one of their best attributes _ they don’t get into the whole “salary cap hell’’ myth which most every other team uses as an excuse when they let someone go or don’t sign a free agent.
You can blame Davis for a lot of stuff, cheapness or pettyness ain´t one.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
They’re going to lose because New England is a better team than they are. The Patriots can afford to take more chances on defense because they have better matchups than Jacksonville does, and Brady’s pass protection has been really, really good. Jacksonville doesn’t have the secondary to stop New England and they don’t have the recievers to beat the Patriots’ cover guys one on one. New England, by virtue of their superiority in that area, was able to be much more creative and aggressive on defense than the Jags, thus putting pressure on Garrard and forcing mistakes. It’s how they beat the Colts so many times, except in those days they were allowed to beat the crap out of Indy’s wideouts as they came off the line, thereby disrupting Manning’s timing and accuracy.
Anyone can run these schemes, but if your matchups suck you’re going to get beat…
January 12th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
By the way, Corey Williams had a good game today, hope the price doesn´t get too high, he´s a fit and a sound investment.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
No pass rush and they played vanilla all day - barely any blitzing. If you don’t have a pass rush you simply can’t do that against a passing team w/ a QB like Brady. Thats why they couldn’t stop them.
Another week of listening to Patriot ass kissing. Comon’ Manning, if there were ever a better time?
But what did I tell you guys many weeks before the playoffs started - The Patriots defense is waaay overrated. They couldn’t stop Jax pretty much all day. Its that freakin’ O that wins them the games.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Wait a minute - I don’t think the Jags were that much outmatched at all. They proved they weren’t. The Pats really couldn’t stop their O. They damn near scored on every possesion. They just lacked a pass rush to get to Brady - thats it.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Pats look unstoppable without any pressure on Brady. I hope the Raiders find another good pass rusher to complement Burgess else it will be ugly when they come here in 2008
January 12th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
I can’t stand the media ass kissing on Pats, Giants and the Cowboys. Hope Manning kicks Pats’ ass in the championship game and they have a good shot with Harrison back.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
I hear what you’re saying, Terrapin. I just think if they’d have blitzed more they would have gotten beat earlier and more often. In my opinion they knew what their weakness was and tried to keep it close as long as they could by keeping everything in front of them. When your secondary is overmatched it’s hard to take guys out of coverage to rush the quarterback without risking getting toasted, and God knows there’s enough examples of that on film this year for them to look at.
I do agree with you though, that the way to beat them is to outscore them. If Harrison plays, the Colts have a shot.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
As I remember, Manning almost beat them in the Reg season. He just made 1 costly error at the end of the game - very un-Manninglike - and thats the only reason why they lost the game. But thats how I remember it.
Indy’s D plays the Patriots a lot better than the Jags did today. I’ll say that B’More’s D played them the best all season. Them and Philly. Gotta mix things up and get to Brady.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Raiderfrom Birth - thats an interesting take.
January 12th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
That 4th and 5 play in the Pats 1st series where Jax rushed only 3 guys was all you needed to see.
Jimmy Johnson said it best, every team in the league will try to beat you with what they do best, only Belichick adjusts his gameplans from weekly to add new stuff aimed to stop the opponents best weapon.
Yeah the D may not be dominant, but they take away the one thing you can´t win without….tonight, Jones-Drew and Taylor combined managed 116 total yards, gameball.