Lofton to interview Monday
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, January 25th, 2008 at 3:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
James Lofton will interview with the Raiders for the third time in three years Monday.
According to senior executive John Herrera, Lofton will interview as a position coach with head coach Lane Kiffin.
The same Kiffin who reportedly is locked in a “fire/resign” battle of wills with owner Al Davis.
Herrera insists the Kiffin-Davis feud isn’t the juicy story ESPN’s Chris Mortensen made it out to be.
“It’s not an issue. Lane’s the coach. It’s not an issue,” Herrera said. “I think the one accurate thing he said is that James Lofton will be interviewed. He will be _ as a position coach _ and he will do it with Lane on Monday because that’s when he gets back from Mobile and the Senior Bowl.”
Herrera also refuted the notion that Kiffin has been stripped of all personnel authority and control of his staff, conceding only that Davis was “irritated” when rumors of Kiffin’s interest in Arkansas surfaced four games before the end of the season.
“But that’s ancient history and this is now,” Herrera said. “There has never been any question about Lane being the coach. It hasn’t been an issue.”
Herrera also said Dennis Green has not been contacted by the club, noting that Green already said he hasn’t been contacted and that his name is always connected to the Raiders.
Lofton was fired this week as wide receivers coach of the San Diego Chargers. He interviewed for the head coaching positons that went to Art Shell and Norv Turner.
Kiffin has done nothing to refute the reports, saying, “I’m not going to comment on anything that’s transpired in the last three weeks.”
That three-week time frame coincides with the Raiders issuing a release saying Rob Ryan was still the defensive coordinator.
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January 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Don’t be scared.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN CIRCUIT COURT
COUNTY OF ALAMEDA JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
RAIDER NATION,
Plaintiff,
v. ORDER FOR PSYCHIATRIC
AL DAVIS EXAMINATION
Defendant.
A motion has been made by Raider Nation, the aggrieved party in this case, requesting the Defendant to submit to a psychiatric examination and the Defendant has entered a plea of not guilty and not guilty by reason of mental illness to the charges against him.
It is, therefore,
ORDERED, that the Defendant be committed to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 for examination to determine the following:
1. Whether the Defendant has the present ability to understand the nature and purpose of winning in the National Football League;
2. Whether, at the time and place of the request for the resignation of Lane Kiffin as head coach of the Oakland Raiders, the Defendant was capable of knowing the wrongfulness of that act.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that such determination be promptly communicated to the Raider Nation. It is further
ORDERED that the Sheriff of this County transport and convey said Defendant, Al Davis, to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 and deliver him into the custody of Satan, or his representative and that said Defendant remain in the custody of Satan until the examination is completed.
Dated this 25th day of January, 2008.
BY THE COURT:
_______________________________________
Circuit Court Judge
ATTEST:
______________________________ Clerk of Court
(SEAL)
January 25th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Yeah right…let the spin begin.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I hate to say Nation, I told ya so, but, I told ya so about Ryan too.
And Dogg, you’re right about Holmgren. Complete control.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
This is becoming a total joke. The only thing more interesting than the RAiders season is the Raiders offseason. I hope this nonsense is set straight by Monday with kiffin as HC and Lofton as WR coach.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Too much smoke…
I amfraid there is a really big fire.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
The only thing worse that Davis firing Kiffin would be making Kiffin coach next year against his will. Lame Duck Kiffin would have no control over the players.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
hey its all good, they are just going to hire James Lofton as the wide recievers coach under Kiffin. If Kiffin were really in a battle with Al Davis over firing/resigning he would have commented to the media to really piss Al Davis off, instead he continued to take the company stance of silence. Sounds like Scheffer just heard about a raider interview and started a nasty rumor. As I recall Al Davis hired Lane Kiffin over James Lofton last year.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Ok, WTF is happening? I was getting all defensive because Al Davis was firing Kiffin. Now I’m reading that Kiffin & Davis would be together interviewing Lofton? I feel like a jackass right now.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Even if Kiffin is staying, Al Davis is still the as*hole responsible for the pathetic state of this team.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
I not firing Lane on Monday.
…I promise.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
MADAME Shefter can kiss our Raider silver and black bolzz!!!
Show me the gdam letter you beetch!!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
JERRY - You wrote: Kiffin has done nothing to refute the reports, saying, “I’m not going to comment on anything that’s transpired in the last three weeks.”
That three-week time frame coincides with the Raiders issuing a release saying Rob Ryan was still the defensive coordinator.
_________
And that statement can ALSO MEAN that he is not going to comment on any of the RUMORS that’s transpired in the last three weeks.
You are too fast to draw conclusions or lead people to your conclusion. What was the question being asked of him? Put it in context will ya’ Someone could’ve been asking him about a rumor and he’s saying ‘he’s “not commenting on any of the rumors that transpired in the last three weeks”
Put his answer in context will ya. Damn I just can’t stand when reporter take things out of context.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
It gives things an entirely different meaning.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
As well you should..
LMAO
# Memo Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Ok, WTF is happening? I was getting all defensive because Al Davis was firing Kiffin. Now I’m reading that Kiffin & Davis would be together interviewing Lofton? I feel like a jackass right now.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
I called Raiders Headquarters and asked if the Raiders are going to release a statement. The lady asked, “about what?”. I told her there were all sorts of rumors flying around like that Al Davis wants Lane Kiffin out. She responded, “Yes, that’s exactly, that’s what they are, rumors.” I responded,”So Al Davis is NOT trying to push Lane out of the organization??”
“No sir, we don’t have anything like that in front of us.”
January 25th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
RaiderDogg,
From previous thread, I understand.
I was just trying to make the point of those who decide not to pay $$$ this year, aren’t really going anywhere in terms of Raider loyalty, just not going to support Al Davis’ income.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I am going to ask a very very simple question: Why would Lane Kiffin want to bring in a new WR coach? And do you really think Kiffin’s first choice is James Lofton? This is an interview set up by AL DAVIS, not Lane Kiffin. Clearly they have different visions and are not aligned. Words can’t describe how pathetic this is. Last time I checked this guy was coach of the WR unit:
Charles Coe, III is in his first season as an assistant with the Raiders, where he will coach wide receivers. Coe, 58, spent the past four seasons as head coach at Alabama State University, leading the football team to a 29-18 record and two conference titles. Alabama State went 5-6 in 2006, Coe’s only losing season as Alabama State’s head coach.
I agree - there’s a LOT of smoke. Period. And there is fire. This is kind of how it went down with Gruden. Deny, Deny, acknowledge, then part ways in a settlement. Quite sad.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Lane Kiffin had me up beat and looking foward to the team getting better.Now this!!!!!!!!! send your complaints to the Raiders at mailto:feedback@raiders.com
January 25th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
We are certainly more interesting during the off-season
than the regular season. That’s a fact.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
John Herrer,
Did you give that hack writer McDonald the line I told you to give him regarding the Kiffin situation? Do you think the Nation will buy that load of crap? They are fools, so maybe they will think everything here is hunky-dorey? hahahahaha…as long as the idiots keep buying tickets I don’t care what they think!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Jerry, being a Raiders fan is so maddening right now. I don’t think I can take much more of these underground leaks and rumors. I know Al Davis is probably loving this seeing as we are somehow relevant way into the post season but the fans want us to be relevant because we are still in it not because of this media circus junk.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
This is great news. Hire Lofton asap. All I’ve heard is great things about him. Maybe our WRs will finally learn how to catch. haha …and develop Higgins. I’ve seen way too many body catches last year.
Now let me speculate: Its Al’s idea to bring in Lofton in for an interview and its Kiffin’s decision to hire him. Please take note of that sentence and what it means.
So a Raider exec comes out and tells yall whats the deal and you believe the PRESS over him? Kiffin the coach - case closed. Yeah there was some “irritation” over the rumors of Kiffins interest in college jobs. But thats by gones. Over. You guys know Al - all he wants is LOYALTY.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I hope this is true.
is Al Davis really think a guy is dumb enough to resign when you owe him 4 Million Dollars.
Who knows, But I hope all is well.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
You people love turmoil right.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
I think if you guys start talking about the draft again, this will all go away.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
If the media is pulling a quick one on us we should march on BSPN stations.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Fuk you John, your last name is now Herrer…not Herrera, accept it or resign!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Memo Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Ok, WTF is happening? I was getting all defensive because Al Davis was firing Kiffin. Now I’m reading that Kiffin & Davis would be together interviewing Lofton? I feel like a jackass right now.
***************
Congradulations Memo ..at least you can admit it. Don’t worry though …I can get worked up off these rumors too sometimes. It just gets under your skin after a while. But we should be seasoned vets by now in the Raider offseason rumor mill. Ain’t nothin’ like it.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Oakglenn Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
“I hate to say Nation, I told ya so, but, I told ya so about Ryan too.
And Dogg, you’re right about Holmgren. Complete control.”
OG -
I told you last night that you are right more often than not. So will Lofton be our WR Coach/Assistant HC or what?
January 25th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Raider Chris, how do you know this, did you sit down with Lane and ask him all his favorite position coaches?
January 25th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Okay! Any other questions????? Good.
On to Lofton: the discharge receivers looked good. Someone asked, why is Lofton any good??? Well, Gates was a basketball player, has been there the whole time Lofton has and he’s now All Pro. Coincidence?? Vincent Jackson has played pretty well considering he came from that vaunted factory of great NFL players Northern Colorado. Plus Lofton has the entire SD Dischargers playbook and signals. Think that could help??? Plus he’s an ex player who I am sure could help our new receiving corp with their routes and timing with Jamarcus. Hire him Al and Kiff.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
terrapin, you feel me!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
I encourage everyone in the Nation to do as Raider Buck did and call the hd quarters or e-mail or whatever and express concern and displeasure with what everyone is percieving to be true.
Then tell them what a mistake it would be to let him go.
show your support, if he takes players votes into consideration then let him hear what the Nation thinks!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Now he ’s forcing Lane to interview his successor, just to rub it in, and try to force him to quit.
Al doesn’t give a shit about winning. Poor myopics.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Are you people really buying this crap? This story is not over just because an Al Davis lackey said there is no issue. All the warning signs have been there for weeks. Wake up people.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Geez Oakglenn,
What does it take, a baseball bat?
January 25th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Krowlz Says:
January 24th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
KoollKell
Wasnt that same thing reported 2 or so weeks ago… BSPN is mixin old rumors and trying to revamp them… i thought this was all settled. Dont even listen to this crud…waste of time even posting it.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Good idea, Kool kell.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
And YES, Al I am sure did call Lofton and asked him to come here. Why would you NOT want this guy???? He could play the game as a player, he understands offenses, he has a very good track record in SD. Kiff had to throw a staff together in a couple of weeks. When guys like this come up, you grab ‘em. Hire him Lane! Pay him, Al!!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
If i remember correctly didn’t Lofton say the 2 yrs he was in Oakland were the worst of his career in!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Let me tell you guys how much these bozos DON’T know …I read on SI.com this guys thoughts on Senior Bowl practices …who helped themslves vice versa. And I just couldn’t believe he wrote Godser Cherilus hurt himself and didn’t look good. What the fuk was he watchin’? Or was he watchin’ at all?
Must not have b/c any silent observer could see that Godser was lookin’ pretty good out there.
Just an example of the clueless writers you read.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
ok oakglenn gotta stop you there…his track record in SD is great? the chargers leading WR is a friggin TE and has been for years, what’s he done so spectacular in SD? McCarddell was the best WR they’ve had in years, and he was a previously successful nfl vet
January 25th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
I’ve been a diehard for 44 years. I had my fun. I was there. But, If I can look forward, you youngsters, who weren’t even born during the Raider Dynasty, should be able to as well. Faith is admirable if it’s not misplaced. But, rather, you myopics, are enablers, part of the problem.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
“Now he ’s forcing Lane to interview his successor, just to rub it in, and try to force him to quit.
Al doesn’t give a shit about winning. Poor myopics.”
KK -
If what you said about interviewing his successor is true than Al Davis is freakin’ Tony Soprano. If it turns out that you are completely wrong about this situation will you admit that you were wrong? Just curious…
January 25th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
It doesnt make sense that Al Davis would ask Kiffin to resign at this time, he has justed coached the senior bowl and scouted the crap out of all those guys, the college vacancies are filled, most of the pro positions are filled, there is absolutely no motivation for Kiffin to give up his million dollar contract, and Al Davis would know that. These stories seem fabricated by imaginative people, that have nothing to do all day but create stories that will excite people into purchasing their periodicals.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
KoolKell - You’re only 44 years old???
I always thought you were closer to 144 years old.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
As I remember COE was NOT Kiffin’s 1st choice as WR coach. I think the other guy declined and went back to Hawaii or something. I am almost certain of this. It was somebody else. And you ask why we need a WR coach?
Did you not witness all those body catches last season? I was just struck by their consistent body catches.
But who cares if its WR or QB or whatever coach. If Lofton’s a great coach, HC material, then you find somewhere to put him - simple as that. Can’t never had enough great coaches!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Thats why the Raiders are so dysfunctional, the fans! I get it now old wise one…
January 25th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I’m 55, been a diehard for 44.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
KoolKell is god.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Will, I didn’t say they were great but I did say their receivers look good. They run crisp patterns, the hold onto the ball, they have a good passing game, look at crappy Rivers. Either that guy is absolutely unbelievably great, the recievers are very good, (neither of which I believe) or someone is doing something right. To me, that’s Hall of Famer Lofton.
Chef, he may have said his two worst years were with the LA Raiders but he was on that 5-10 team with Marc Wilson and Rusty Hilger. That would ruin anyones year.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Just more evidence for the myopics, that Kiffin has no control over his own staff, no wonder he wants out.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Speaking of age - a lil off topic - but I briefly overhearded on the Science Channel that they could potentially expand the human life by another 100 years or more. Something about diminishing free radical cells or something. It worked on worms or something and now they’re going to try rats. Next humans? I recorded it and will watch it later. Interesting hell - at least to me.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Raiders contact info.The more we call and e-mail the more we are noticed.
510.864.5000
Email us at feedback@raiders.com
January 25th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
KK -
If what you said about interviewing his successor is true than Al Davis is freakin’ Tony Soprano. If it turns out that you are completely wrong about this situation will you admit that you were wrong? Just curious. This is an honest question. No malice intended.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Terrapin -
What channel and when? That sounds very interesting…
January 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I have to say no matter that the Raiders are 4-12, they are not boring. Of course, I want the Raiders to win, but the worse thing was when Norv was here, and you could see this slow death. The Raiders, Kiffin and Ryan are all alive and kicking. The Raiders make you forget about the Superbowl. The Superbowl is more predictable than the Raiders….that is for sure!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
[...] Terrapin wrote a fantastic post today on “Comment on Lofton to interview Monday by Terrapin”Here’s ONLY a quick extractMemo Says: January 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm Ok, WTF is happening? I was getting all defensive because Al Davis was firing Kiffin. Now I’m reading that Kiffin & Davis would be together interviewing Lofton? I feel like a jackass right now. … [...]
January 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Dude (oakglenn) Rivers throws up plenty of ducks. That much is for sure. Man those ducks be flyin all over the field. Just a puni arm.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
[...] silver and black chef wrote a fantastic post today on “Comment on Lofton to interview Monday by silver and black chef”Here’s ONLY a quick extractI encourage everyone in the Nation to do as Raider Buck did and call the hd quarters or e-mail or whatever and express concern and displeasure with what everyone is percieving to be true. Then tell them what a mistake it would be to let … [...]
January 25th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
You guys know nothing about Al, if you think e-mails and calls will influence his decisions in any way.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Sactown Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Fire Kiffin is quite the idiot. Have never posted here before but you are clearly an idiot. Must be a Bush follower as well. Al Davis is clearly an old paranoid mob boss threatened by anyone with a plan. You talk of firing Kiffin with your stupid handle, tell me jackass, who would you hire? Now you can say something to try and piss me off, but really, who should Al Davis hire to fix the Raiders? I have been reading this the entire season and have never heard that from you except for cynical stupid responses just to fire people up. Who?
January 25th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Draft McFadden and let him coach too.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Just win…please
January 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Yo, Dakota, post #2^^ and its request for the psychiatric examination for Old Al is the most COGENT, LUCID, and PROPER post in the history of the Raider Nation, and, hell, the history of the Internet. God Bless you.
Thanks,
Mike J.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Koolkell, you believe everything the media spoons you well they say AL is going to promote RR to head coach and you say Lofton is his successor, do you want to pick a fantasy & stick to it or is it just any way the wind blows with you ?
Either support the media blindly or stick to your story but you cant have your cake and it too..
January 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Sactown Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Sactown Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Fire Kiffin is quite the idiot. Have never posted here before but you are clearly an idiot. Must be a Bush follower as well
ShawnRaiders81:
Hey we can keep our politics out of this some of us are not loney Sanfran freaks who have morals.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
various comments… one reason that Al has a long tether for Rob Ryan is that Al likes Rob’s father who is dealing with the Alzheimer’s of his wife. Al’s own wife is reported to be ailing. It is a quite human juxtaposition whether you like it or not.
if Lane Kiffin did not realize the bs perpetrated by bspn upon the Raiders before, he does now. Al Davis is not a member of good standing in the good ol’ boys/corporate complex ruling the NFL. I, for one, am glad of that.
Hire Lofton, fine. Make him the head coach if Kiffin doesn’t want it. I don’t see why Kiffin would not want the opportunity, one of thirty-two in all the world to hone his craft.
The f@*&%+g s#*t that comes out of the Robert Kraft fawners on a certain sports network is as disgusting as his effing tuck rule championship.
If Al was pissed at Lane for considering a life in Arkansas, I have no problem with that. Anyone who would prefer to sooey pigs in that wallow of the backwoods rather than to engage the Global Team and live in the Bay Area is worthy of anyone’s scorn.
I for one appreciate Kiffin’s efforts over the past year and I hope he continues to be and learn as head coach of the Silver and Black.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Just for the record I think (fire Kiffin guy is an Idiot too.)
But also a republican follower.
Maybe he supports Hillary……
January 25th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Sac town -It is my duty to warn you that there are strict rules and regulations around here.
#1 Don’t feed the trolls.
#2 see #1.
#3 No name calling.
Just Win Baby.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Shawnraider81
BUSH = AL DAVIS=FIRE KIFFIN=NO MORALS
January 25th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
SD has a below average passing game to me, but I see what you’re saying reguarding holding on to the football.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Sackless town - No morals?
Care to explain?
January 25th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
SD has a below avg passing game but more importantly their WR core rivaled the 49ers in lack of talent. Until Chambers joined mid season it was the Vincent Jackson show! Are you kidding me?
Bring Lofton aboard!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Its on the Science Channel - a series called Time. But I just skimmed through what I recorded & its the wrong series show. Anyways, I stopped the series I recorded when they were testing rats on Saline, Weed, and Cocaine - that sht was funny how they were acting.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Shawnraiders81 Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Just for the record I think (fire Kiffin guy is an Idiot too.)
CANT ARGUE THAT POINT
January 25th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
I’V BEEN A DIE-HART RAIDER FAN FOR 34 YEARS AND THE MESS THAT IS GOING ON NEEDS TO STOP. AL LEAVE THAT DAM COACH ALONE. YOU ARE TO DAM OLD TO KEEP MESSING WITH COACHES THE WAY YOU DO. I NEVER THOUGH I WOULD SAY THIS BUT BUT THE RAIDERS AINT SHIT AN WONT BE SHIT UNTIL AL LEAVE HIS COACHES ALONE SAD DAY FOR ME AND RAIDERS FANS ALIKE.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
mistabrown
he’s been there 6 years as WRs coach right? what unbelievable talent he’s developed
January 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
How about this scenario:
Al and Kiffin meet after the season ends. Kiffin wants to talk about the coaching staff and Rob Ryan in particular. Al says to Kiffin, “That’s all well and good, but what happens if you take the next college job that interests you? Where will that leave me?”
Kiffin gets testy and tells Al that Al promised he would have control of his own staff.
Al comes back with, “Don’t BS me, we both know you were interested in the Arkansas job.”
Al continues with, “Hey, I’m not willing to fire Ryan if I can’t trust you’re going to be here for the duration of your contract…that’s just the way it’s going to be.”
Kiffin loses his temper and tells Al he’s reneging on his promise (and the contract).
Al says to Kiffin, “Hey, if you don’t like it, you can quit. I’m not firing Ryan until I feel like I can trust that you intend to be the Raider coach and aren’t just using this job as a stepping stone to the one you want. Don’t blame me…I didn’t tell you to get in line for the Arkansas job.”
Kiffin says, “Well if you don’t trust me, why don’t you just fire me.”
Al says, “Nope, we have a contract…the same one you ignored when you entertained the Arkansas job. You want out, quit…I’m not paying you to leave.”
They hash it out and come to some type of understanding. Al succeeds in making his point that he won’t accept disloyalty or being played. Kiffin realizes Al has nailed him and he can’t really argue the point.
Three weeks goes by and the media gets bits and pieces of this exchange and fills in the blanks with what we’re hearing today. Kiffin doesn’t want to talk about it for two reasons:
1. Al told him to zip it; basically insisting that what happens in Al’s office stays in Al’s office.
2. If Kiffin wanted to talk about it, he would have to either tell the truth or lie. If he told the truth, that would include an admission about the college jobs and Kiffin would rather not talk about that fact. If he lies about the situation, Al will nail him big time for lying to the media to make Al look like the jerk.
Bottom line:
Kiffin blew it when he entertained college jobs. Al called him on it and backed Kiffin into a corner. Kiffin doesn’t have any better alternative and realizes he overplayed his hand with Al. Al had given him enough rope to hang himself and Kiffin got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Now he’ll have to earn Al’s loyalty in order for Al to give him the keys to the franchise.
Plausible? What do you think?
Daniel
January 25th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
FIRE KIFFIN Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
KoolKell is god.
GOD HELP US
January 25th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
lmao!! Man people went off the hook! ESPN has too much pull here in the Raider Nation. 20 or so people said they wouldnt support the team anymore…I have to admit if Kiff was gone I’d be pissed too, but look at where all of this drama is comming from. That should end the worries…
I wish there was a west coast all sports channel. Im sick of hearing about east coast stuff all day everyday.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Al thinks everyone works harder when he is yanking their chains. My old boss told me years later thats why he gave me the toughest jobs that noone else would do and why he yanked my chains all the time.
He said the more I yanked the harder you worked.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
I long for the good old days when the Raiders showed up on Sunday and played hard and I was no wiser to the inner workings of the organization between games. Now I am not sure who is more fooked up, me for caring what happens to the Raiders other than just watching the games or Al Davis. I sure hope big Al drinks hard because then when he sobers up he might make sense of things.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Sorry, but I will not believe that this story is dead until I see a press conference where Al and Kiffin kiss and make up. Until then these rumors will not die, and our misery will continue.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
this is soooo pathetic. AD RULES. lets see how much longer he can drill this franchise into the dirt.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Get it through your thick skulls, Al is god.
When will you accept Al as your personal saviour?
Raider Nation - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Sactown Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Shawnraider81
BUSH = AL DAVIS=FIRE KIFFIN=NO MORALS
Shawnraiders81:
Well Some want to save the trees and Kill the Babies some might think that is imoral.
At least we agree on the Fire Kiffin guy is an idiot.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
im drained. but its like im a crack addict. i cant quit the raiders.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
im going bald loving this team.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Take that Sactown…Shawn burned your @ss on that one! Keep politics out of this blog, please.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Great job Jerry,
I DEMAND ANSWERS AL DAVIS!!!!
NOT ANOTHER FN MEMO EITHER!!!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Daniel, I wrote a book last year on a premise completely unrelated to football or the Raiders but I must say that you have the author in you to envision such coversation as you offered in ‘80′. Much better’n the crap made up by the east coast hype machine.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN CIRCUIT COURT
COUNTY OF ALAMEDA JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
RAIDER NATION,
Plaintiff,
v. ORDER FOR PSYCHIATRIC
Fire Kiffin EXAMINATION
Defendant.
A motion has been made by Raider Nation, the aggrieved party in this case, requesting the Defendant to submit to a psychiatric examination and the Defendant has entered a plea of not guilty and not guilty by reason of mental illness to the charges against him.
It is, therefore,
ORDERED, that the Defendant be committed to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 for examination to determine the following:
1. Whether the Defendant has the present ability to understand the nature and purpose of winning in the National Football League;
2. Whether, at the time and place of the request for the resignation of Lane Kiffin as head coach of the Oakland Raiders, the Defendant was capable of knowing the wrongfulness of that act.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that such determination be promptly communicated to the Raider Nation. It is further
ORDERED that the Sheriff of this County transport and convey said Defendant, Fire Kiffin, to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 and deliver him into the custody of KoolKell, or his representative and that said Defendant remain in the custody of KoolKell until the examination is completed.
Dated this 25th day of January, 2008.
BY THE COURT:
_______________________________________
Circuit Court Judge
ATTEST:
______________________________ Clerk of Court
(SEAL)
January 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
RE post 88: lol
January 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
stretch Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
im going bald loving this team.
Thats some funny crap right there!!!! at least we can use that as an excuse.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Daniel
I like your theory. I was thinking something more or less similar. The only unbealivable part is that you make Al Davis seem too rational.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
OK, OK, what I’M gonna do is reserve judgement on this bullsh!t!! BUT if this turns out to be ANYWHERE close to true, I’m gonna fly to Cali and kick Al’s wrinkled, senile azz myself. A good ol’ fashioned Philly-sized azzwhooping!!!!!!!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
M - What’s the name of your book?
I’m sure the Nation will support you if you let us know the title and author.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
M
Seriously, and we wonder why this stuff keeps swirling.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
And after I kick that azz, I’ll buy everyone on this blog a cheesesteak from Pats!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Jesus, here we go again…troll alert fellas.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Heres a copy of the email I sent…Please everyone that cares voice your displeasure by calling or sending an email!!!Please!!! We as fans have no other recourse!!!
I would like to inform the Raiders Organization that if these rumors of Coach Kiffin’s dismissal are true, I will no longer be attending a single Raiders game until control of the organization has been turned over to someone who has at least half of a clue of how to run an NFL franchise. I also will not purchase any team merchandise or follow the team on television. I will encourage every fan that I come in contact with to do the same. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF ROOTING FOR THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL!!!! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF HAVING MY SUNDAYS RUINED BY THIS TEAM. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED WITH THIS ORGANIZATION!!! We as fans finally had a glimmer of hope with the progress shown by Lane Kiffin and his staff and players this year and now you want to take it all away? If this happens I’m done.
Anthony E.
sec. 333 row 1 seats 1 and 2
January 25th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
The beatings will continue untill morale improves.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
dude im freakin starvin… cheesesteak sounds great… theres a great hogie place here im tempted but wify is makin lasangna..
January 25th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Jesus, here we go again…troll alert fellas.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
now i know why the defense sucked so bad this year, with R Ryan blowing big Al behind the desk he knew his job was secure and took the season off. RAIDERS FOREVER… .with or without BIG GAY AL.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Yeah right…let the spin begin.Jesus, here we go again…troll alert fellas.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Krowlz, you only get it if Al is sane! Hopefully you will keep eating lasagna… but I got a sinking feeling you might be getting Pat’s best… and Al will be tradin’ Silver and Black for Black and Blue!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Raider Nation - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Gotta see the latest pics from http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
Al’s holding Kiff classic!!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
I am sick of all you Al haters, I am going to go service my boyfriend so I can forget about all you haters.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Amy Trask was just on KNBR. Anyone hear the interview??? If so, what did she say??? I turned it on as they were thanking her for her time.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Nio she was not they were just quoting her
January 25th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
No*
January 25th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
This is a freaking soap opera.
Come on, Al… Speak on it.
http://mvn.com/nfl-raiders/
January 25th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
What was she saying???? In the quote
January 25th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
If Davis fires Kiffin I may very well leave it.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Ok, so is this still an issue? Or should we expect any “league source” that says “Ryan is carrying Kiffin’s child”?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Just denying the reports kiffin still has control of hiring and firing coaches. Tom and Raulph say she is not in the loop of football day to day business.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
I just caught the tail end of Nancy Gay on KNBR bitching about raider fans sending her hate mail did anyone here the whole interview?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
WTF? Draft McFadden!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Sactown Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Sactown Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Fire Kiffin is quite the idiot. Have never posted here before but you are clearly an idiot. Must be a Hillary follower as well. Al Davis is clearly an old paranoid mob boss threatened by anyone with a plan. You talk of firing Kiffin with your stupid handle, tell me jackass, who would you hire? Now you can say something to try and piss me off, but really, who should Al Davis hire to fix the Raiders? I have been reading this the entire season and have never heard that from you except for cynical stupid responses just to fire people up. Who?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I LOVE MCFADDEN GULP GULP SLOBBER SLOBBER LICK AH NICE AND CREAMY
January 25th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
You guys have to admit with all of the other rumors comming out the Raiders orginisation have not come out so fast denying the rumors. With everything said the last few weeks that has to say something…..Theres practically new news everyday and the only other thing they denied was Ryan being fired. That didnt happen. Sure they could have come out sooner but I dont think it was a big of an issue, as those who keep a daily eye on the Raiders had seen it. Now it is more of a national thing they straigtend things out. I hope a press conference is scheduled or will be soon just to keep some peoples hair from falling out.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Dakota, who do you want drafted?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Ask KoolKell he is Ralph Barbieri.
# Holy Toledo Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Amy Trask was just on KNBR. Anyone hear the interview??? If so, what did she say??? I turned it on as they were thanking her for her time.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
You are right, I am an idiot. Al Davis’ nutz have hit me in the head too many times and now I can’t quite think straight.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
I am McLovin McFadden.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Dakota - you might as well come to the realization that at this point its Dorsey, Ellis or Long. And I’m thinkin’ about putting my money on Ellis. He can play NT in a 3-4 or DT in a 4-3. He’s versatile which would allow Ryan to mix his defense up a lot more. Ryan is probably salivating right now (3-4 / 4-3 hybrid).
January 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
FIRE KIFFIN Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
You are right, I am an idiot.
>__________Thought so, PLEASE EXPLAIN
January 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
rereading my post…man i sound like an idiot… lol… i should reread before i send…. :/
January 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Terrapin,
You are probably right, but I can’t shake my man-crush on McFadden.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
I heard that the pats are going to give us their first round pick for free since Moss robbed us. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN DRAFT DMAC AND D!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
I’m gonna take Terrapin’s lead on this and just ignore the rumors (and troll accusations/fighting) and stick to football talk. Something that came up earlier… we need a BADAZZ SS something awful. Some have suggested a small OLB, anybody found a good prospect draft or FA that Jerry can leak to the S&B scouts!?!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Terrapin, the only thing Ryan is salivating about is a 40 piece from KFC, we been sending him high round draft pics for 4 years and he has no idea what to do with them.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Good one Mista. LOL
January 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
phillyraider…i will keep saying it…watch feb 3rd..giril wilson of the nyg, would be the ss we’ve been looking for
January 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
After all of this BS goin around keeping Ryan sounds like a freakin dream if that the only thing goin on..or not goin on.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I LOVE MCFADDEN GULP GULP SLOBBER SLOBBER LICK AH NICE AND CREAMY
January 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
I ain’t gonna lie. When I saw Ryan runnin’ across the field (more like gettin’ left behind), I was like DAMN that mutha effer’s got a huge stomach. lol.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
during the Senior Bowl practices.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Good one and done
January 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Funny Mr.Brown!! Just more proof that Lane should have the sayso in firing non-producers… players and coaches alike!! Problem is, in the NFL dead weight decisions are tougher to get rid of than a nutty azz girlfriend!!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
GULP GULP SLOBBER SLOBBER, geez Mr Davis, you only made me gulp twice. Maybe you should step down, sir.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Dakota, some of the funniest things in life are true.
BTW, what did you find funny KoolKell = Ralph Barbieri or RR/KFC ?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I think Gay’s quote about Davis being pissed when he watched Moss catch a TD pass is meaningless and comical. What fan hasn’t said exactly the same thing! Davis didn’t say, “what an idiot Kiffin is for letting Moss go.” We all know the performance difference had more to do with Moss’s attitude than anything else.
Until I see real evidence that these rumors are true, i’m going to keep on looking forward to next year.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Yeah right…let the spin begin.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Yeah, you’re right RW1980, his bio reads good as hell but we definately need DL help first!! After that, Gibril will be gone.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
I have been a Raider fan for 30 years but if this is true I’m gone. I can take the losing, the penalties, but I cant take the firing of Kiffin. He goes, I go. I cant believe that Al would do this. Al Davis: Dont ruin our franchise. I have defended you for years but this is the last straw if its true.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Fender, I though the very same thing, also AD had the final say on Moss.
Nancy Schmancy
January 25th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Mistabrown=brown eye
January 25th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Who cares who looks like what as long as they produce. Dude could look like michael jackson in a ronald mcdonald outfit, if he helps the d then who cares. Well maybe that goes a bit far but you know what i mean. With that said I think Ryan looks Raider…
January 25th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Its time for Al, Kiffin, and Ryan to have a joint press conference and show a united front. They need to close ranks and show the players that they are all committed to winning.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Mista, #152 was not me…fyi
January 25th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Mista, #152 was me…fyi
January 25th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
How do I know #155 isnt you either ?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I agree with you K-rock, just for the sake of the season ticket holders.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I think Al Davis’ depends are on to tight,he’s getting no blood to his paranoid addled mind,if he does get rid of Kiffin for Dennis Green, another retread, i’m done as a fan until Davis dies or gives the keys to someone who cares about winning.Kiffin has the team on the right path,like a certain coach Davis hired about 9 years ago.Davis has become a bitter old man and the team and fans suffer because of it.Please excuse me i’m watching a real organization on tv right no GO LAKERS
January 25th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
K-Rock, they are at the senior bowl coaching & scouting.
Kiffin is interviewing an upgrade WR coach on Monday, do you think they have time or even care to address this bologna ?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
How do we know whether or not Al Davis is even Al Davis?
January 25th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
His teeth.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
WOW!!!!all this hate for AD. i love it. if this goes down, all you AD lovers got no leg to stand on no more.you can tell me all the great sh!t hes done in the “PAST” but ill take it and whip my hairy ass with it
January 25th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
if all you AD lovers dont think this is borderline senile, your not a passionate fan
January 25th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
and your in complete DENILE
January 25th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Thats fine stretch just be aware there are AD lovers and there are those who just say wait for something to happen before getting your panties in a knot.
Dont confuse the two.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Yup the raiders commitment to excellence continues!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3214665
If Kiffin is let go i predict next year’s raiders record will be 3-13! So much for the future of the raider nation!
Raiders suck donkey nuts!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
STOP POSTING GARBAGE.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
my panties are sooo knotted from all this crap that they have grown into my dingleberrys
January 25th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Stretch
You are right, idiot
January 25th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Stir up some shit at http://www.oaklandraidersdarkside.com
No frills, no editing and one thread. Bring it.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
ESPN lacks the integrity that they seem to pretend to have. Journalistic integrity should be void of this kind of tabloid type rumor-mongering. Morten Andersen is the journalistic equivalent of US magazine. Check your sources and then check them again before you spew any more of this garbage on the air, Mort. Jerry, I am disappointed that you stoked this fire. I understand that there isn’t much to report during the offseason, but at least do a special interest piece on a player’s charity work or tell us what Jamarcus Russell does in his spare time, just don’t feed me another spoonfull of this bulls#!t.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Krowlz Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Who cares who looks like what as long as they produce. Dude could look like michael jackson in a ronald mcdonald outfit, if he helps the d then who cares. Well maybe that goes a bit far but you know what i mean. With that said I think Ryan looks Raider…
STOP POSTING GARBAGE.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
sorry if i OFFEND you AD fanz, but im sick of IT. am i the only one?
January 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Stretch, we are having a serious conv here this is not just sports & entertainment this is life & death for some.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
I meant garbage links….
Who here hasnt seen that crap a million times today.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
ya, i know. i work with alot of niner and pat fanz. this is the last thing i need to get crap about from them. it bad enough to defend our record the last 5 years. now this they throw in my face……..its tough
January 25th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
The record speaks for itself: 19-61. It is going to get worse before it gets better. On Ryan’s watch our defense has become awful and this year we allowed the highest yards per rush in the league. Plain and simple that should get you fired. Kiffin had us in position to win some games and the defense could not get the ball back. Firing Kiffin will certain assure us a few more top five draft picks. Kiffin should be able to fire Ryan and bring in his own guy, because, clearly , Ryan can not get it done. What ever Al had is now lost. Hiring Walsh and Shell was clear and compelling evidence that he has lost whatever edge we had. All of you Al Davis supporters are letting blind loyalty obscure from accepting reality.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Alright guys, wifey has got that PRETTY KITTY look in her eyes and my little guy is stiffer than Al’s resistance to common sense. I’ll see you guys later!
PS - I really mean it Davis, that AZZ KICKIN’ will be express mail if Kiff is on the outs!! Punk AZZ!!!!!!!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Let all the Raider hater’s have their fun. The Super Bowl is now taking a back seat to the Oakland Raiders. (just the way Mr.Davis wants it)
January 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
[...] Dakota wrote a fantastic post today on “Comment on Lofton to interview Monday by Dakota”Here’s ONLY a quick extractStretch You are right, idiot. [...]
January 25th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
hahaha. loved it too
January 25th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Who is posting those “Fooball >> Comment on..” posts?
January 25th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Football*
January 25th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Well if Kiffin does interview loften, then that shows he is In for next season, as if all this was true, why would he interview him if Al wants to fire him.. he would be giving Al the finger and say, if you don’t like it .. fire me
January 25th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
i may be an idiot but im a die hard raider fan
January 25th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
just like the rest of you
January 25th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/25/SPJPUM98P.DTL&tsp=1
January 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Lofton worked wonders for that Charger WR Corps. Im excited to see what he can do for ours.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
If Al can’t land Dennis Green maybe he will go after Mike Tice or Jerry Burns?
January 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
BigWorm ..read some more up to date news…thats old
January 25th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Stretch, #170 was not me…some troll seems to like me.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
no worries. im just frustrated as hell.im venting with yall
January 25th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Stretch, #170 was me.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Gee, missed a few hours and come back to find madness….Sorry for the long post but please bear with me, I think we all have to wonder:
1.- Knowing what we all know about Davis (never affraid of a fight or a lawsuit..the whole Shanahann firing-money owned deal)….then I don´t get this:
If he decided that he wants Kiffin out, why not just fire him, refuse to pay him a dime and let Kiffin make the next move?.
If Kiffin wanted to go to court to get his money, do you really believe AD would cave? AD and his attorneys would fight back with their own breach of contract allegations regarding the alleged college jobs and even if Kiffin were in the end awarded the money, AD would probably look at the fact that he put him trough that whole ordeal as a win, let alone the fact that it would take a long time to actually pay him, if at all.
2.- If Kiffin is so unhappy, why wouldn´t he just quit and move on?. He´s 32, I´m sure he does not need the money and I´m even more certain that he´d have a job very soon.
In reality, when a coach is in a situation like the one that´s been ”reported”, the only thing holding him back from quitting is the fact that he has a contract and he´d be subject to repercusions for failing to fulfill his commitment and the Raiders would actually still have his rights and would be subject to some sort of compensation if another NFL team were to hire him.
He´s essentially being given a free pass to get out of such a ”horrible” situation, he certainly would come out of it smelling like roses, the media would make him the latest victim of a mad man, he´s rightfully viewed as a guy with a bright future and he would get a good laugh out of all the bashing AD would surely take.
I don’t get it, what would make him wanna stick around?..the money? really?…I honestly don´t see Kiffin as that kind of man, I´m sure he´d rather have his freedom and dignity than the money, which by the way he´ll earn somewhere else for sure.
It just doesn´t seem right to me, I´m not claiming to be a completely made-up story either, it´s just a little hard to believe the way it´s been portrayed.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Why are we interviewing coaches who have been fired from other teams right now? Isn’t it possible that frugal (maniacally tight-assed) Al Davis could locate a better “position” coach in the college ranks for less money than Lofton? It’s also funny that John Herrera did not state in the report from the Sacramento Bee what “position” Lofton would be coaching. If it were to be receivers wouldn’t he have stated that?
January 25th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
I hear ya man, I just want this nightmare to end.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Draft McFadden and let him coach too.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
That being said….
I´m gonna say it, I´m a bit worried here, I have always liked Kiffin, I praised him all season long. If he actually does resign or gets fired it would be devastatting and there would be no one to blame but Davis, I certainly hope Kiffin stays and things work out.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Raiders Rule! They are the best Team in the world!!
January 25th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Kiffin will stay things will work out and next year it will be much prettier than last.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I LOVE MCFADDEN
January 25th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
i hope he stays. poor JR will never develop in new systems every year
January 25th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Win,Lose or Tie Raiders till I die. (Words I live by)
January 25th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Dakota Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Post #202 was not me…some troll seems to like me.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
John Clayton claims the Raiders sent a mass e-mail to the National media reminding them of how great our past is? WTF is up with that? That is just pathetic if true. We have become a joke!
January 25th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
has anyone been here? i like it…..http://www.raidernationpodcast.com/
January 25th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Strech..yeah its not a bad site.
Dakota.. You still listening to ESPN reporters? Have you not learned anything today?
January 25th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
By the way, why does Al want Ryan to stay if Kiff wants him gone? Shouldn’t Al be just as po’d with the play of the defense?
I throw that, along with the Dennis Green rumors and Lofton innuendoes on top of the evidence indicating things aren’t as bad as they seem.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Krowlz,
They couldn’t lie about that could they? That would be verifiable by any media outlet if true.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
ATTENTION POSTERS!!!!!!
You are being lied to by the Media!!
Please do NOT buy into this propaganda that Al wants to Fire Kiffin.
This is another feeble attempt by an unintelligent headline seeker to take a cheap shot at our organization.
Lane has not lied to us all year long he has been brutally honest with us and until I hear him say that he has a problem with Al or that he wants to fire Ryan then we must stop reading this shotty grade school journalism.
Again this is just an attempt to try and cast a dark shadow on our bright future with Kiffin and JaMarcus.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Who cares what they sent though… Raiders and reminissing of past and reminding others of it is just standard. Reporters just want to make us sound more and more pathetic.
anyone like Top Gear?…Check out this VW Golf…with V12
http://quicksilverscreen.com/watch?video=23720
..not a bad site for vids either..
January 25th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
i hope you are right sheep
January 25th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
me too!
January 25th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
If this is true…the nation is screwed again. Complete insanity. The timing is perfect, our coaches have been scouting the senior bowl all week and have no input who’ll be drafted? Brillant!
Not that I think that Lane is John Madden re-incarnated but 1 year and out! So much for continuity. I hope AL has something up his sleeve, but I doubt it.
We won’t know the truth until Lane Leaves or Al dies. B/C neither one of those guys talks to the media.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I hope Adam Shitfter is not some where laughing his ass off!
January 25th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
I heard that Jeff Garcia is replacing Brett Favre in the Pro Bowl. They couldn’t get anyone better? WTF!
January 25th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
such wimps on this blog now except Bipolar Bob and a few others.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
C’mon Bob,
You don’t see Kiffin as a man who likes money? He’s supposed to walk away from 2 Million to accomodate Al Davis? Some kind of honor thing? His dignity? sheesh.
The whole football world is out to get the Oakland Raiders?
January 25th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
nice that kiffin gets to inter view the guy davis interviewed for the last 2 openings at HC….and when kiffin goes the HC already with the team????? lofton was a possible hc 2 times and now will be a position coach EEEEEEEKKKK yuck, not cool
January 25th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Lofton wasn’t even considered for the opening at san diego. Off cordinator or hd coach.I would hope davis is not that stupid
January 25th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
I DO HOPE that AL and Lane are sitting back laughing thier asses off!!
January 25th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Troll…
Actually, he´d walk from 4 million, yeah, hard to believe..it´s all speculation on my part.
But you think he´d rather stay and collect the money when according to the reports he´s been stripped of every decision making power, told he´ll have no say in the draft, free agent signings, coaching moves or anything else??.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Michael Jackson in a Ronald McDonald suit playing D??
We have that guy already, he wears #40 and his name is Stuart….Oh I am an ass, just had to break up the drama w/ some Stu bashin’…
January 25th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
any coach that plays mccown and isnt thankful for his chance to be nfl hc at 32 can get fired- al is right
January 25th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
I will believe that there is an ounce of truth to this rumor when I see the press conference. The media loves to stur up stuff just to try to gain readers or viewership and doesn’t care an iota about truth, or who they may hurt in the process. They view AD as a villan and so they jump on any unsubstanciated rumor to promote their stereotype.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
has anyone email amy trask and let her have it? i did….atrask@raiders.com
January 25th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
One thing i also noticed…. was that none of kiffin’s outfits had raiders symbols on it… i could be wrong on it… but it is something i noticed when i watched it, tho i didn’t watch the whole thing….
January 25th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
what outfits?
January 25th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
his underarmor jackets.. all the assistants had on raiders gear
January 25th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
at the senior bowl?
January 25th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Dennis Green has not been contacted. Both the Raider and Green said so. That much of the story is a lie. How much of the rest of it is a lie is to be determined. Right now, the only substantiated part of the story is wrong. Makes me doubt the rest.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
kiffin has pissed me off since he played mccown over walter- if he goes so be it- raiders will get someone else and return to winning- the media hates al- and the media are completely fabricating many things- not just about the raiders-
January 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
This is the only place