Safety-challenged
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, February 24th, 2008 at 9:40 am in Oakland Raiders.
Will this be the year the Raiders either sign or discover a playmaker or a big-hitter to play safety?
The safety class is not considered particularly strong. When the first round is complete, Miami’s Kenny Phillips could be the only named called, and it’s possible no safeties at all will be taken. Alabama’s Simeon Castille was an intriguing playmaker for Nick Saban at Alabama who played cornerback but seemed to do his best work inside as a nickel corner and safety.
Other than one last great year out of Rod Woodson in 2002, safety play has been a problem for the Raiders since they came back to Oakland in 1995. One of their more remarkable accomplisments was making it all the way to the AFC championship game in 2000 with Marquez Pope and Anthony Dorsett manning the last line of defense.
Stuart Schweigert was displaced by Hiram Eugene as the starter last season, and it wasn’t much of an upgrade. Eugene missed tackles at roughly the same rate as Schweigert. Michael Huff has one interception in 32 games at strong safety.
At the season-ending press conference, Lane Kiffin hinted that Huff, slightly built for a strong safety and more of a form tackler than a big hitter, might be on the move to free safety. Since then, it remains to be seen just how much input Kiffin will have with regard to Huff or anyone else, and two league sources said during the week that it is no secret in league circles that Huff is available by trade.
I’m skeptical about pulling that off, because the Raiders, the justifiable Randy Moss giveaway aside, usually ask for way more than teams are willing to give and Huff, while decent in coverage against tight ends, has not been a playmaker or much of a help in the box stopping the run.
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February 24th, 2008 at 9:43 am
FIRST HAHAHA YEAH BABY
FIRST FIRST FIRST FIRST FIRST FIRST FIRST
February 24th, 2008 at 9:48 am
They couldn’t give Huff away, he flat out sucks.
February 24th, 2008 at 9:48 am
No FA’s worth a damn and few prospects in the draft, where we gonna find a safety?
February 24th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Huff reminds me of Najee Mustafa or Elvis Patterson. He sucks, how he even receives and NFL check is beyond me. And to think this waste of roster spot was a first round pick. What a complete bust. He is probably one of the biggest busts the Raiders have ever drafted.
February 24th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Trading Huff makes sense - as he would be an excellent fit in a Tampa 2 scheme - which we should play but don’t.
February 24th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Huff was a strange pick - especially as we asked him to do a role (marking out TEs) that didn’t suit his talents.
At least Al can’t blame Kiff for Huff. Art Shell took the fall…because Al never takes the blame for anything. Just like Castro.
February 24th, 2008 at 9:54 am
I was hopeful that Huff’s lack of playmaking was just due to fact team asked him to focus on covering tight ends. Everyone knew he was too small at draft time, that’s why he played corner and safety in College.
Huge disappointment so far, but I can’t give up on him yet. Maybe he pulls a nmandi and turns it around in year 3. Recall we all thought nmandi was a bust until he shocked the nation two years ago.
February 24th, 2008 at 9:56 am
DeCoud of Cal and Haffney of Tennessee would be good middle round picks…but we absolutely need at least one decent vet FA if we let Huff go. And the FA market for safeties is very thin.
Unless they want to player-exchange for Huff?
February 24th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Dan,
Good point. I am curious why Kiff didn’t at least try Huff at FS and/or CB towards the end of last season.
But then, Kiff never seemed to have any say over the defense.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Hopefully Ryan figures out best way to use Huff this year. Huff and Ryan must realize need to make changes. Recall Ryan thought last year that Huff would be his breakout player. Let’s hope he’s just 12 months late.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:05 am
I still have nightmares of Shannon Sharpe scoring that long touchdown in the 2000 AFC Championship game. I still can not believe no one caught him.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:08 am
before considering to trade huff, we should start finding the right spot for him. All here, heck, everybody can see he would be best at FS, but if he wasn’t good there I would try him out at CB2 before trading him.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Well, someone must be making decisions on personnel in Alameda. Rumours are now circulating that Sebastian Janikowski is going to be cut or traded this offseason.
Ridding the roster of two ex-first round picks is serious surgery. Almost Kiffinesque. Perhaps we are all misreading the Alameda tea leaves?
February 24th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Darnell Bing…
too small to be a linebacker…
what??? too big to be a safety???
Mario Henderson…
to small to be a defensive tackle???
what??? to big to be a defensive end???
this list could go on, but i’m going to stop…
no…
one more item…
cause it’s what we do…
Michael Bush…
too big to be a halfback???
too fast to be a fullback???
oh, did we fail to draft a person of absolutely perfect size, shape and color again???
what’s wrong with this???
February 24th, 2008 at 10:18 am
too much stuff up in the air. crazy drama being relayed to us fans by who knows. all this soap opera bull shit belongs on daytime tv.
Gotta respect Jerry for finding material when there isn’t much to report but all of this speculation is gettin annoying. I understand sources want to stay anonymous but how credible is this information.
I mean how “in the dark” could Kiffin have possibly been with his dad working directly with Jon Gruden? I can’t imagine that Gruden couldn’t or didn’t provide oceans of information regarding the job. Especially since they couldn’t co exist. Seems like bull to me. There has to be something else.
And what value could mike huff possibly have?? I can’t imagine they’d pull the plug on him this early. And if they did deal him, who would take his place? Are they gonna start Stu and some middle round rookie?? Maybe I’m missing the logic and the sense but if you read this Jerry or anyone, please offer a frustrated Raiders fan some sort of LOGICAL FOOTBALL insight.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Pete,
We used to blame the evil Lombardi for all the drafting mistakes - especially the fascination with white midwest tweener farmboys - but perhaps we should be looking to reapportion blame.
And hold Al Davis accountable.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Play Huff at FS or CB before we do anything with him. I prefer FS for he has excellent range and can catch the ball rather than knocking it down and he can tackle which is what we definitely need. Hell,he is too wrapped up covering these 250+ TE’s and weighs less than 200 so how can you make plays? Place him in position TO MAKE PLAYS and the Committment to Excellence will be in full effect.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Scottish, you saying “Kiff never seemed to have any say over the defense” is as absurd as Adam Schefter saying Kiffin didnt interview Lofton.
How do you know Lane didnt pull the plug on Stu or Fabian ? You are as irresponsible as the media for that assertion.
Dan post #10. When has RR ever figured out what to do with a player on defense ?
February 24th, 2008 at 10:22 am
2sense,
Its called ‘clearing the decks’ or ‘emptying the trash’ or ‘lets start again’.
The odd thing is that neither Davis nor Ryan have ever been fans of the big clear-out. As that would involve admitting mistakes.
Could this actually mean that Kiff has finally got his hands on the defense?
Did Al Davis do a deal with Kiff. You must keep Ryan but you can do what you like with the roster.
We live and hope.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:25 am
sctottish raider, who is your source? Because that is a flat out lie.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:26 am
I should read your comment more carefully. You said rumor. So let me rephrase that. Where did you hear that rumor?
February 24th, 2008 at 10:26 am
no…
it is ridiculous to draft people with serious talent and then pop them into a situation where they do not do well…
since when do college safeties try to convert to linebacker???
and when the experiment fails, cut him and say he was no good???
all we succeed in doing when we do such things is steal away some of the talent the young man had…
when you don’t hone your craft, you start to lose that skill…
this is upsetting to me…
cause i just know M Bush is gonna get cut… and it will be the Raiders that ruined what could have been an amazing career…
February 24th, 2008 at 10:31 am
I think huff is a decent safety. To call him a bust is crazy. There are very few safeties in the NFL that are great. but there are pelenty of good ones.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Cho Be..I’m with you on that one. Move Huff to FS and he’ll be fine!
February 24th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Huff did a very good job against TEs.. he didnt make alot of plays and get alot of Ints.. but he held Gonzo and Gates in check.. Gonzo moreso then Gates.. his role on this defense was to cover TEs.. but he would be much better suited as a FS and bring in a real SS even tho i dont know of any in the draft or FA that would make the impact needed…
February 24th, 2008 at 10:42 am
exactly or rely on our new strength coach to bulk huff up and lets see if he could transform to the safety everyone wants him to be.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Huff is a play maker, not a SS, he should be a CB or FS. Saying he sucks is ridiculous.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am
I’m offended that after attending every home game in the late nineties that none of you give any props to the best player on the Raiders at the time- Eric Turner. Far better than Woodson was in ‘02. Do you guys watch the games? or just talk nonsense about team issues you can’t possibly know anything about? Oh..and worst safety Raiders had- Dorksett.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Breaking news!…
NFLN cameras just caught Tony Dungy, Jeff Fisher and Sean Payton in the stands watching the WR drills, they are NOT wearing any team gear.
Dumb, I know, but last night I recall some people seriously wondering why would Kiffin not wear Raider gear.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Scottish Raider Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Well, someone must be making decisions on personnel in Alameda. Rumours are now circulating that Sebastian Janikowski is going to be cut or traded this offseason.
—
And how does that make any sense?
Seabass is a top 10 kicker and arguably in the top 5. His high percentage within 40 makes him a reliable weapon and hs potential on freakishly long attempts gives another option in the right situations. His kickoffs the last two seasons have been finding the end zone more often.
The only knock on him is that he was a 1st round pick, and that’s not his fault. Possibly that has him being paid too much?
Regardless of where he was picked and what the expectations are, if he’s performing why cut him unless his contract is extravagant? What’s the better option if they do get rid of him? Is Cole Ford out of jail yet?
February 24th, 2008 at 10:50 am
The deal with Mike Huff is once again, he was one of those “bridesmaid” players we always some how end up with. The Raiders had Vince Young targeted. That was the guy they wanted after his performance in the national championship game. It was kind of a surprise Tennnessee took him, so we took Huff after HIS performance in the national championhsip game. If anyone remembers Mike Huff had a great game, and his run support against Lyndale White was superb.
Huff has done an EXCELLENT job covering the TE’s in the division. That was what he was drafted to do. Don’t you guys remember Gonzales, Gates, even those Denver scrubs like Jeb Putzier just killing us? Well, at least THAT doesn’t happen anymore. Our only hope is as someone above wrote, the light goes off, and Mike becomes a pro bowl type safety in year 3.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:51 am
I dont know about CB. Too much mam on man coverage against great receivers
February 24th, 2008 at 10:54 am
But seriously…
Andre Caldwell ran a 4.31 and showed his skills at the Senior Bowl.
Mayock likens Early Doucett to a poor man´s Anquan Boldin.
James Hardy ran a 4.48, Devin Thomas a 4.36, DeSean Jackson a 4.31….
That´s what I recall right now for the guys who are interested in a WR.
February 24th, 2008 at 10:58 am
First of all lets be realistic, it is a total mess in Oakland right now. First thing we need to do to clear up all this coaching madness is either Al or Lane come out and say something about this huge distraction. If Lane isnt gonna be the man, then fire him now and let Rob Ryan take over the head job. I believe the players would rather have him anyways, as was apparent when Art was fired. Get the coaching mess settled first, then worry about player movement. Oh by the way, Huff should definitely stay, no questions about it. Get him to FS where he belongs Rob!
February 24th, 2008 at 11:02 am
maddenraider=ignorant troll
February 24th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Yup, we have to fix the coaching situation, no one wants to play for a dysfunctional team.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Finally watched No Country For Old Men last night, if Kiffin and the team move along and nothing happens I´m gonna track down Anton Chigurh and sent him after some people….
February 24th, 2008 at 11:05 am
send him
February 24th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Nancy Gay wrote an article on SFGATE about the combine with her usual negative, baseless and nebulous information. She even said JOSH Booty’s hands were measured and were considered small. She’s got her Booty’s mixed up. John is at the combine not Josh.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:14 am
she sucks….so does Ostler and Ratto
February 24th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Wow…a Najee Mustafa reference, you don´t hear those often, my compliments to you Einstein.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:15 am
I hear you all on Huff doing a good job vs TE. I agree. My problem is he hasn’t had the big impact you would hope from a #7 pick. When you draft a guy 7th, or 2nd (Gallery) or 1st (JRuss), you can realistically hope they turn out to be stud players. I’m hopeful JRuss becomes a stud, but we have precious little to show for our last four high draft pics:
2004: Gallery - decent to good guard. Should have had consistent probowler at #2 (joe thomas)
2005: traded for Randy - Josh Bowie to show for it
2006: Huff - decent safety with jury still out. Should have consistent probowler for that pick
2007: JRuss - glimpses of bright future - need #1 pick to be franchise turnaround type player.
Not saying their haven’t been many busts across the league drafted highly, just that its reasonable to hope that you would have two cornerstones from those high draft picks.
As for RR. Not sure what he’s done, just expect he realizes he needs more production out of Huff - and finds a way to do it. If we view FS as obvious, I can’t believe RR hasn’t considered it.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:18 am
FloridaPete…
Enlighten me please!!! Mario Henderson, is a OT right?? Do you say he played DT or DE in college???
I cant believe that.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:20 am
post 18 Mistabrown- Ryan thinks every one of his players is a pro-bowler.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:20 am
While also being frustrated over this continuing coach/owner cloud of rumors … I’m also hoping the Huff on the block rumor is false. Agree with all above who want to see him move to his more appropriate FS pro position, even if he did play more SS in college. It’s only his 3rd year. Asumugha was worth waiting for (and as Jerry noted sometime ago, the Giants were close to firing Coughlin and fans were hostile to Eli Manning … and now?). Keeping Huff, and adding a hard hitting strong safety to supplement him, would be key, and given the potential draftees, I am still hoping that’s a key FA move. Oh, and let’s take Ellis with the 4th pick …
February 24th, 2008 at 11:36 am
McFadden
4.27 in the dash
let’s see Al Davis pass that up (assuming McFadden’s there at #4)
February 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Newsflash:
Mcfadden just ran a 4.27 at the combine!
Put those Chris Long, Dorsey, Ellis comments to rest
February 24th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Question to the Raider Nation: regarding the Davis/Kiffin rumor … does anybody know of a coach ever getting fired so late in the year, after the combine, etc? I really have no idea. Anybody know?
February 24th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Guys you can go on Fox Sports or CBS sportsline and look at potential free agents for yourself. There are several decent prospects out there including one that really played well for the Giants down the strectch. FA is really strong on WR and saftey this year and not bad for OTs either. Unfortunately Fox is not keeping up with the tags so you kind of have to look at both because CBS does not rank them but I am not getting the FA ranks are “thin at Safety this year.” But I guess I am an idiot because I just look at the names and recollect how they played vs. letting some talking head tell me what to think.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 11:18 am
FloridaPete…
Enlighten me please!!! Mario Henderson, is a OT right?? Do you say he played DT or DE in college???
I cant believe that.
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i’m horrible with names sometimes… (ask my employees)…
i was thinking of Quentin Moses… got confused…
February 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Mcfadden will be the first player picked running that fast. The Raiders will never have a chance at him.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Going to watch Nascar so I can stay withing realm of confusion going around @ nearly 200 mi an hr. Just like the Raiders at this point.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:47 am
NC Raider
I think Shotenhiemer (sp) for San Diego got fired late the year before but generally if they are going to make a move it is usually before the SB and usually much sooner than that (i.e. first week after season). They are not going to fire someone in the middle of FA and in prepping for the draft although a few times AD has taken his time in hiring someone into this period.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Marley, I appreciate the combine updates.
Why on Earth would Michael Huff be traded? After two years? I guess IMpatience is a virtue around here.
4.27 for Dmac. I’ve never watched him run. Has he ever broken a tackle? I don’t know. Has he ever picked up a blitz? I don’t know. Has he ever gotten the tough yards when he needed to? I don’t know. Lot more to being an NFL running back than nifty cllege crap, ask R. Bush about that.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:51 am
“Michael Huff has one interception in 32 games at strong safety.”
Asomugha had ZERO interceptions in his first 47 games. Zero.
I remember the days clearly. Asomugha the bust, why is he even on the team, revoke his scholarship, Al Davis is a senile old fool.
People should take a step back and remember that it takes a few years for players to develop. Huff will develop and become a great player, as will Fab. Washington.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:51 am
BHP
But who would take him? Will Maimi choose to rebuild on McFadden? Will St Lois take him when they already have Jackson? Will Atlanta when they really do not have a QB yet? Will someone really trade up into one of the first three slots for him? I mean if the Texans would pass on Bush why whould someone come in hard for McFadden?
Just a question… I am not trying to be retorical here…
February 24th, 2008 at 11:52 am
AutumnWind, which exact FA safety is there? I saw Doss’ name, other than that I am unfamiliar with others who have been any good.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Man, you´ve read DMC´s time already…
4.27 at 6′1 211, looked awesome.
Mendenhall at 225 ran a 4.43
Looking at both, it´s hard not to be impressed by DMC´s sheer speed, there´s something about him too, he acts like he´s better tah everyone but in a good way.
Mendenhall´s body is just something else, he looks like the strongest guy out there and 4.43 is great for a RB too.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Let me sub for Dakota
Draft McFadden!.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Does he hold onto the ball?
February 24th, 2008 at 11:58 am
When you have a talent like his with that kind of game breaking speed all bets are off. There will be teams from all corners of the earth trying to get this guy. That’s unheard of speed at the halfback position. That’s almost as fast as Bo. He just lacks the toughness that I like but he does have size. If you can use this kid the right way and that wont be hard. He can be a fantastic weapon that you must account for.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:58 am
all you guys who say Huff sucks really don’t know what you’re talking about.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
d mac second run wow 4.33
February 24th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Just read on BSPN Dorsey has a stress fracture in his tibia and has had this since ‘06.
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-5-544/Report–Dorsey-s-stress-fracture-still-a-concern.html
February 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
huff dosent suck try it
February 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
The Raiders scouting department needs an overhaul,they have missed on more than they have hit.Look at the winning teams draft history and you will seldom see a safety drafted so high.Now the team is stuck with this player that is over paid due his high draft position.No team is likely to pay more than a bargain price for a player
in this salary category if he’s not an outstanding contributor.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
mendenhall 2nd run 4.37
February 24th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Mayock was impressed, but that doesn´t take away from his very valid points on fumbling and contact concerns.
4.33 in DMC´s second dash.
Damn, Mendenhall just ran a 4.37 in his second try.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Mendenhall and Stewart ran extremely well. I would draft Stewart in a heartbeat, 235 running a 4.44 40 that’s flat out crazy. With his ability to cutback and carry the ball 30 times a game man I’m re-evaluating the talent at RB this is good stuff.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Oh yeah, now people become convinced, lol…it just took a 4.27 for you people to realize McFadden would look good in Silver and Black? He had me at hello!
Not having the #3 pick probably keeps McFadden out of the S&B unfortunately.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
To put those numbers in perspective…
DeSean Jackson ran a 4.31 at 5′9 169….
February 24th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
now everyone wants mcfadden!
February 24th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
did d mac bench ?
February 24th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I agree Pirate #55…Huff has been a good player for the Raiders…just not highlight reel stuff. Aso, had more trouble but still showed coverage ability in his first few years.
With the T.E.s the Raiders face in the AFC West, Huff has done what was needed…keep Gonzo and Gates from entering the endzone with the ball (on a regular basis).
Since when is the primary responsibility of a SS to stop the run at the line…and interceptions do not come as often to the SS as other db positions. George Atkinson was ferocious especially for his size, but he did not get interceptions on a regular basis. Separate the ball from the receiver…that is what Atkinson and Tatum did…
Huff has done a good job.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Dakota- Nice to have someone who had my back with DMac.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
mcfaddenwagons
February 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
i dont want him rb come a plenty espically w/zone blocking scheme i say ellis or long
February 24th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Never on the wagon Cho-Be, been talking about DMac for months.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
DSM,
Hey, I took two months worth of insults for wanting McFadden, but he who laughs last laughs loudest my man.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
judge judys
February 24th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I think I like he big guy at 4.3 more than McFadden at 4.27.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
but some are
February 24th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
We could pick up Mike Hart in the 7th round with those numbers, lol.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
game won in the trenches go long or easy ellis
February 24th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
we dont need a running back with that high of a pick.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
we
don’t
need
a
freaking
running
back
!!!
February 24th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
I sure hope we don’t get distracted from upgrading the Dline. We just HAVE to use that #4 pick on the D line.
Just have to.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
BHP, I agree, whoever gets J. Stewart is going to be very pleased.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
john stewart 2nd run 4.49 vert 36 inch bench 28
February 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
The good thing about McFadden running so well is that it pretty much guarantees that he will go in the top 3. If Matt Ryan goes in the top three as well we will be able to choose from at least 2 of the 3 top d-lineman…Man, I hope we can find a decent DT in free agency so that we could draft Chris Long if available.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Dakota,
I know and to think about how we discussed taking the best available player and people laughed.
“No, no, we have Bush & Fargas and the zone blocking scheme. Anyone can run in this scheme so why take DMac? We need Ellis or C Long before we focus on RB”
I never understood taking C Long over DMac because the same rationale they used was hypocritical because we’re set at DE as well? Obviously no studs on both sides but definitely adequate, but our weakness on D is obviously with our DT’s.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
D-LINE
February 24th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
M
Here are some ideas:
I think these are still available…
Pos Pos
Rank Rating Name Type Yr Ht/Wt College 2007 Team
S Sammy Knight UFA 8 6-1/215 USC Jacksonville
S Oshiomogho Atogwe RFA 3 5-11/210 Stanford S. Lou.
S Deke Cooper UFA 5 6-2/210 Notre Dame Carolina
S Mike Doss UFA 5 5-10/207 Ohio State Minnesota
S Tank Williams UFA 6 6-2/223 Stanford Minnesota
S Eugene Wilson UFA 5 5-10/195 Illinois New England
S Gibril Wilson UFA xxxx xxx xxxx NY Giants
The one who intriques me is Atogwe although he is restricted. I think with a restricted you make an offer and the other team can top it (or not). Anyways all these guys are larger safeties that can play the run. There are other guys as well just not sure if they are suited to SS. Sammy Knight is experienced and would probably be an upgrade. Eugene Wilson is probably a FS if we trade Huff. Did you know that G. Wilson of the Giants actually led his team in tackles in two of the playoff games!
February 24th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Dakota Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
The good thing about McFadden running so well is that it pretty much guarantees that he will go in the top 3. If Matt Ryan goes in the top three as well we will be able to choose from at least 2 of the 3 top d-lineman…Man, I hope we can find a decent DT in free agency so that we could draft Chris Long if available.
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now that’s the best plan!!!
too bad my boy Corey Williams got locked up…
February 24th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
running back dont matter if you cant stop the other teams rb
February 24th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
C long! b/c im bias
February 24th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
ditto DSM 91
February 24th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
lets see dmac catch
February 24th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
C Long makes sense if you bring Kelly back at DT alongside Warren, or if we switch to a 3-4 with big boy sands in the middle.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
AutumnWind, thank you very much for the posted list of safeties.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
coming up
February 24th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Jhill, just in case you did not notice, Kelly and Warren both missed significant time last year. Having more than two good DT’s is a good idea.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Everyone has been talking about DMC, there´s a reason he´s been sitting atop draft boards for months.
There are still very valid questions on him, 23 fumbles on 3 years, drops the ball in traffic, lower body strenght and what Mayock keeps saying, his legs stop at contact.
Faulk says he can´t carry a team and needs someone else to share with.
But even with all of that, it´s just hard not to be impressed when you watch him sprint like that.
Even if he´s not gonna be a 320 carry guy, you just won´t find people who can do what he does.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
If we don’t somehow draft McFadden in the first round, I don’t see why we need to draft a RB in the draft at all. The point in drafting McFadden is that you are picking an elite player that can change games…one you shouldn’t pass up for a NEED position, even if you have players already in place. If we don’t get him, we have no need at RB and the other RBs in the draft do not live up to elite status, so you pass them up to pick players that fill a need…just my opinion.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
I wasn’t aware that Gibril Wilson was on the market.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Agreed, but Sands is still on the squad. If Kelly comes back, I think he’d be a better fit at DT than DE. Warren and Kelly would surely start, so Long at DE would be an upgrade over Richardson.
I actually think we should move Richardson to Burgess’ spot, and trade that dude for a 2nd or 3rd round pick, draft Ellis or Long, and resign Clemmons and Kelly.
I could live with Kelly at DT with Long at DE, or Kelly at DE with Ellis at DT.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
the burgess trade talk is killing me!
February 24th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Don’t get crazy I’m still not sure He will be an every down back. I know that Mendenhall and Stewart will be the times they ran are flat out crazy at that size I probably would still take one of them over McFadden. That kid Mendenhall is very impressive we’re talking potential dominance here. Backs with that kind of size speed ratio are extremely rare.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Why?
February 24th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
For those pining for Dmac … since Miami has Ronnie Brown, and STL has Steven Jackson, seems like the question is ATL. And there the character Q and lack of QB might really matter to Arthur Blank … after the Mike Vick affair. There is at least a chance that he’d be there at 4 for the Raiders. Still doesn’t help the D-line. Or O-line for that matter. But they would still have a high pick in round 2, maybe #35 overall (?) and get best DT there. I’m still leaning Dline with first pick … but I have to admit: Russell, McFadden, Miller, an improved O line, and some stud WR to be named later … sounds good.
Autumn Wind; thanks for response on the coach firing Q. I don’t think I will feel like it’s finally put to rest until July training camp starts, at this point.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
LoanAdvisor Says:
February 24th, 2008 at 11:14 am
she sucks….so does Ostler and Ratto
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I read Ostler because of his humor. He tries to be funny and tends to get a snicker or two out of me.
I read Gay because of her humor too. Not that she intends to be, but because she’s so clueless that in itself is a good laugh.
I rarely read Ratto, but when I want a different angle to laugh at I watch him consistently apologize for the Whiners poor play and then inject blind optimism into his perennial prediction that they’ll be the most improved team in the league while the Raiders will fall from worst to worst minus one.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
????
February 24th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Burgess’s run defense doesn’t concern you? Even the most non critical Ryan said Burgess needs to get bigger and do more. Unless we are going to switch to the 3-4 and use him like a Merriman, then something has to give. That RDE position needs to be addressed from a run defense perspective just as bad as SS needs to be addressed. At the very least, why not at least switch Kelly or Richardson to RDE as they are a lot better against the run.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
chris johnson ran a 4.24
February 24th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Whew!!! Dexter Jackson the kid from ASU who smoked Michigan ran a 4.27 forty at the combine today!! Can I say deep threat we need!!
February 24th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Thank you McF!!
Now that you have solidified yourself as a top 3 pick we don’t have to worry about that old koot selecting you over Ellis, Dorsey or Long. I don’t know if Long will be there but if he is he’s the #1 pick for us. I will let the scouts determine if Dorsey or Ellis will be the pick for us. Better yet I better do that as well, let’s trade down and get Ellis and get a 3rd rdr. WE can get a WR like a Devin Thomas or Deucet in the second.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
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February 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
It is the sole province of the reader to determine the credibility of the poster.That being said , perhaps there is much being said about nothing , to misdirect the shallow thinkers , and instead of being in a state of confusion we are forging the future behind the scenes.I have a dream…..
February 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Either one we could take but Jackson showed his stuff against big time competition all year long, he’s no workout wonder.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
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February 24th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
I got distracted if Chris Johnson ran that time. He in my mind is an extraordinary player. He’s much more impressive to me I’ve been singing this kids praises to everyone that wants to listen he’s is IMO the most electric player in this draft. He is so elusive and agile he was a WR for 2 years and made the change to RB his JR year I’m telling you this kid is majical.
Mayock keeps knocking him and I’ve disagreed from the start and I’ve been vindicated, because I tjhink the world of his talent I compared him to Marshall Faulk and they thought I was crazy. He is the untimate scat back.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Dakota, should we draft Chris Johnson? He’s faster than DMac.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I’m sorry I meant magical.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
If McFadden fell to #4, and if AD could suck it up and pass on him, would it be reasonable to think that the Jets might trade their #6 overall pick and their 3rd rounder this year as well as a 3rd next year to trade up and pick McFadden? We would then hope that Ellis fell to us at #6 or Vernon G. or settle for Jake Long??? Jets might be afraid that KC will select McFadden.
Of course it would be an unprecedented move for Al Davis to 1) Pass on a talent like McFadden, and 2) trade down from a high first round draft pick.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I’m know I shouldn’t glat but you have no idea who I had to argue with for this kid.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I meant gloat.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
BHP, if the kid runs a 4.24 and his name begins with a J, majical is just fine.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Official results to combine events are at the link below, the NFL network has been incorrect in some of their broadcast results.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers
February 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Brother few will believe this but Chris Johnson is more talented and a better football player than McFadden.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
They had Johnson running listed at 4.25 before the combine.
Not quite sure what round he was projected to go in though.
February 24th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
ChargersChoked, do they list their Wunderlic scores?
February 24th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
i think we should try to get rogers from detroit and jenkins from atlanta. if we succedd in that, by all means, draft mcfadden, but if we cant stop the run of the other team 1st, there is no point taking mcfadden because he will never see the ball.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
I’m not watching the combine right now (because the Sharks vs Penguins is more interesting to me) but it from what I’m reading here it sounds like everyone is putting up great numbers in he 40. Which means that it’s a real fast track so the numbers should be viewed accordingly.
DMac’s sub 4.3 was impresive until I heard about Mendenhall’s sub 4.4. I can’t wait to see what Felix Jones puts up.
As far as this impacting Dmac’s draft value, remember that in his pro day workout that Michael Bennett ran a 4.13 40 at 5′ 9″ - 207 lbs. That’s better speed with body better suited to an every down back. All that speed and potential earned him the 27th overall pick. He did manage to break 1000 yards in his rookie season, but then things like injuries, trouble holding on the ball, adn limitations in the passing game ultimatly relegated him to backup / change of pace. I see DMac have a similar career when all is said and done due to his build and reliance almost exclusively on pure speed.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Chris Johnson had a great year and racked up big yardage against “Powerhouse” teams like Boise State, Tulane, Memphis and Houston, and he only produced last year, whereas McFadden did his thing in the SEC and did it for four years…I don’t know that I think Johnson is better than McFadden, but he looks like a solid back.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Simms needs to go too, i dont think we really need a top pick to replace him though, he is washed up, anyone would be better than him.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
M, I’ll take it he really is special but he didn’t play in the SEC so scouts will doubt him but I’m telling you he reminds me of Terry Metcalf, not Eric but his father Terry. They are virtually the same player. Great hands can flat out juke you out of your shoes, lots of wiggle and a willing blocker to boot.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Dont try to change the subject so fast Jerry. What you typed before in the previous blog entry was completely irresponsible.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Did they ever announce Felix Jones’ official height and weight? Ark has him listed at 6′ 200lbs, but somehow I think they might be stretching the numbers on him.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Remember people, those times are hand times. Track meets and the Olymoics use electronic times.
I wonder why they use electronic times?? Hmmmmmmmm
Let me see.
Maybe because they are accurate. That makes sense.
Hand times are fraudulent at best. If there are 10 people with stop watches, guest what, there will be 10 different times.
Anybody out there feel me???
February 24th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
I meant McFadden did his thing for 3 years in the SEC (post #134)
February 24th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
who agrees with post #132?
February 24th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Unknown — hand times are just fine. I mean, if you’re only measuring to the degree of accuracy of hundredths of a second, surely that’s easily within the reaction time of the highly skilled individuals working the combine — and yes, that is intended to be dripping with sarcasm
Speaking of phenomenal times, here’s the latest sleeper for Al to reach for in the 2nd due his time:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/tyler-schmitt?id=2702
A long snapper that ran a sub 5.0 40! Just imagine his ability to get downfield on punt coverage. He’s a potential game breaker I tell ya! Forget the team needs at DL, OL, S, WR. A player of this caliber only comes around once a decade. His ability to impact Lechler’s history making net punting average by up to possibly an extra 0.5 yards could be all the difference in field position and thus wins and losses.
Al just can’t pass up on that kind of talent . . .
February 24th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I for one, have a very positive outlook for the Raider’s upcoming season. I’m counting down to the opening day kickoff already. The reason for my excitement is simple;I honestly believe the Raiders are only a few moves away from returning to “Greatness.”
Now bear with me and try to contain your laughter if possible. One of the main reason for my optimism is what I percieve to be a weak AFC west. I also think the remainder of Raider’s schedule (AFC East and NFC South) will prove to be favorable.
Of course the offseason will be crucial but I believe if the Raiders play their cards right, they can challenge the Chargers for the AFC west–NEXT YEAR.
#1.Defense- In my opinion the defense is one good defensive tackle and a decent safety away from being an elite group. Throw in a strong side linebacker for good measure and then we will have a defense to contend with. If the Super bowl proved anything, it proved once and for all what many in the nation have been saying all along…There is nothing wrong with the Raiders defensive scheme. They simply didn’t have the horses to get it done.
#2.Offense- As far as the offense goes, I fully expect Mr. Davis to bring in some playmaking recievers to compliment Russell’s formidable skill set. As we all know—Al is addicted to speed. The Raider’s are in a desperate need a fix immediately. In addition, hope they find a way to hold on to Mr. Rhodes and find ways to better utilize his specific skills. I thought when called upon, he stepped up and displayed what this team is severely lacking—veteran leadership and professionalism.
#3.Special teams- The Raiders need to aquire a serious return threat once and for all. Look no further than what Hester has meant to the Bears if you don’t think ONE man on a football team can’t make an immediate and considerable impact.
P.S. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, most importantly…. FIRE KIFFIN.
Just Win Baby.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Anyone watching the Suns/Pistons game on ABC? LOL, I think Steve Kerr might be second guessing the Shaq trade!
February 24th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
He did his thing at the WR position and stepped in and ran away with the RB position. He’s just a very talented football player. One I would love to have on the Raiders and they could use him all over the place same a Reggie Bush.
If we somehow get this kid let me tell ya’ he will ignite this offense with JLH. It will all be over with Russell arm and those two kids catching it.
GooooooRRRRaaaiiiiidddeeerrrrss!!!!!!!!!
February 24th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Huff completely sucks. He’s not a playmaker at all. He’s a bust. How do you spell T-E-X-A-S in the NFL?
S-O-F-T.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
BHP,
What round do you think Chris Johnson will go in?
February 24th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Here are the 40 times for those interested.
Johnson, Chris 4.24
McFadden, Darren 4.33
Alridge, Anthony 4.36
Charles, Jamaal 4.38
Simpson, Chad 4.42
Mendenhall, Rashard 4.45
Forte, Matt 4.46
Jones, Felix 4.47
Parmele, Jalen 4.47
Stewart, Jonathan 4.48
February 24th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Mendenhall is definitely a beast, he´ll likely end up with a better carrer, but DMC will bring something else to the table.
If you need one guy at RB you take Mendenhall, but if you have a system in place and proven backs who can contribute, take McFadden.
I´m also wondering how far was DMC pushed in college, he was a superstar and was probably asked only to show up and do his thing.
In the pros he´s gonna be pushed to reach his full potential, we may have seen only his natural talent so far, with the proper training and motivation he could get better.
We´re still 2 months away from the Draft but I have to say I might just climb on the DMC bandwagon.
Dakota, move your butt, I might be jumping in….
February 24th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
murge
You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Its hard for olympic sprinters to run sub 4.3s.
There are no such thing as highly skilled timers.
If the gun sounds and I’m .5tenths of a second late on the watch, well I just dramatically affected someones time.
If I stop the watch before someone crosses the finish line, I just screwed-up again.
That good-ole human element fails everytime.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
I thought he was a late 1st or high 2nd then Mayock came in with his opinion and I understand it. But let me tell you Walter Payton played in a weaker conference than Chris Johnson. This kid will probabaly last until we pick in the 2nd rnd because he’s only played the position for really one year so he could still be there if he is we MUST take him. He’s just too talented.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
NFL.com doesn’t list the Wonderlic scores but nfldraftscout.com does list unofficial wonderlic scores, ther’s not any scores there now but should be in a few days.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com
February 24th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Observations from the Combine
Marshall Faulk was going nuts about D-Macs time
D Sanders said Jerry Jones would be “Nuts” if he gave up his 2 No 1s and Barber for McFadden
Jamie Dukes said D_Mac has moved up draft boards and is a “Home Run Hitter”
MIke Mayock sounded like he was starting to re-avaluate picking D-Mac as the no 2 back on his board.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
I’ll tell you I wouldn’t shoot the TV if we drafted McFadden but the rest of the HB’s in the draft just doesn’t let me totally support it, and with what we already have at the position I just don’t want a HB that high unless he is Bo Jackson. JMHO
February 24th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Whoa! I didn’t know that Dorsey was damaged goods , he was sent from the combine to the hospital for further analysis of his previously hurt leg by a NFL doctor.
http://www.mysportspage.com/news/home/index.html?article_id=114194
February 24th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
A 4.27 is extraordinarily impressive and even made me give McFadden a second thought. But wait till you guys see Dorsey/Ellis/and Long. You’ll forget all about McFadden. Right now you all are in the euphoria of the momement. Let if marinate a bit before jumping on any bandwagons.
Then I take a look at the highlights they showed of McFadden in traffic and the guy goes down too easy.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Unknown….Olympic sprinters are timed in different manner aside from no hand held timers…reaction time plays into it etc. ….here is a link to wikipedia on the 40 times…they have as good an explanation as anyone…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash
February 24th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
If Dorsey is failing physicals at the combine then I see us taking Ellis.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
That’s my point about him Terrapin it’s the football player in him that I’m concerned about. He just wasn’t as dominant as he should’ve been. You watch Reggis Bush’s film and he just flat made your jaw drop. McFadden will WOW you on the perimeter but he just doesn’t dominate consistently. Micheal Bush was flat out awesome I don’t think McFadden was any better than Stewart or Mendenhall in fact I was more impressed with them
February 24th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
We needed a QB in the 2006 draft and we take a safety! WTF????? What do all you Leinhart haters have to say now? It just further proves that the old man has lost it. Oh, I forgot Davis blames shell for taking Huff. I cannot even count the wasted draft picks over the past five years. We are doomed until Al moves on.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Terrapin,
The reason Mike Mayock has D-Mac #2 on his board is the same reason as you stated.
Marshall Faulk did bring up a good point. He stated maybe the reason D-Mac went down on contact was he knew he was going pro and wanted to avoid injury.
One other interesting thing D Sanders said when asked is there any big difference between a 4.0 and a 4.4 guy. He said that it is huge Its like when you say if he only had that one more step to get by a guy or if he only had that one step on a pass. That good a time is that one step.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
If I were to even attempt to predict McFadden’s future I’ll venture to say he’ll have a damn good 1st year equivalent to Reggie Bush’s until defenses figure him out. Figure out how the team is using him and game plan against him better. Then he’ll go into the same slump as Reggie Bush. But there’s no tellin’ what they’ll do long term but it looks like they won’t live up to the hype from my eyes. Reggie Bush needs a starting RB at this point in his career and so may McFadden.
I’ll also give this caveat: If McFadden were to improve his lower body strenth there’s no tellin’ how good he can become. But he must get some meat on those bones to do it.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Matt Lienart impressed you? The only player that has really lived up to the billing in that draft is the MLBer from OSU, VY has along way to go, Bush has been in consistent and the other two QB’s are struggling. Maybe they will be great but I’m not impressed yet.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Chappy - I like Huff. Give him time.
Leinhart Sucks.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
The good news about Dmac is he has an excellent understanding of sophisticated defenses. No one really talks about that, but that’s what I like about Dmac even more than his athletic ability. Bad news is Luigs and Felton who both Jones and DMac ran behind are tremendous O linemen. Who gets the cred there?
The numbers that jump out at me early in the combine:
check out my boy, Josh Johnson’s 40 time. The QB from U of San Diego, is an absolutely stellar player. Honestly, even with our QB situation, and there is not a bigger Jam fan on the planet than me, I would LOVE to have this guy. + he’s a local guy!!! Get him, get him get him!!!! He’s a perfect fit for what Kiff is trying to run.
Andre Caldwell has Oakland Raiders 2nd round selection written all over him.
Duane Brown the LT from Va Tech will probably be there in the early 4th round. Nice 40 time!! Very athletic guy would be a nice fit at LT in the ZBS.
But the number that jumps out at me more than any other is 169!!!! Desean Jacksons weight. What did I say two days ago about him being another Tedd Ginn Jr. or JL Higgins?? Devin Thomas is a much better prospect.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
ChargersChoke, if Dorsey is failing his physical whats you think Ellis will be there for us? If we should pass on Dorsey I imagine the 3 picks in front of us will do the same and take Ellis.
Terrapin, did you want Fargas back? JF doesn’t exactly carry linebackers with him down down the field.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
BHP, are you talking about AJ Hawk ?
#163
February 24th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Yes sir!
February 24th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Com’on Brown …as I remember Fargas is a punisher - whether he punishes himself or the defender thats another story lol - but nonetheless he runs damn hard, averaged over 4.6ypc as I remember against PRO defenses. He wasn’t going down all the time on 1st contact. He can get better with breaking tackles but he DID break tackles. That statement was uncalled for and I expect more from u.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I’m sorta outta here gents …playing the dating game and gotta interview these chicks
February 24th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Fargas runs hard yes but he goes down faster than a tiajuana hooker. He punishes himself more than anybody else on the field at least DMAC can run around somebody. Im not a Fargas fan Terr..
Dont expect more from me lower your expectations!
February 24th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
McFadden will be a great player you just have to use him right. He just doesn’t fill our needs especially when you have the type of talent that’s in this draft you can’t play games, you have to biuld a football team. Ellis and C. Long are going to be stars in this league and our RB situation doesn’t warrant him. there are some very talented RB’s that will be available later. It just doesn’t make good sense IMO
February 24th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
my criticism is not just about huff vs leinhart it is about Al no longer having a clue. He has allowed our team to become one of the LEAST TALENTED in the league.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
q
February 24th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
LOL
February 24th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Chappy buy a clue. We need some pieces but that’s way off. Anyway I’ve had enough. here comes the Al Davis talk ………..boring.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
I don’t know whats going on with Kiffin. He should be wearing Raider gear. Those things seem kind of odd.
All this question about whether Kiffin will be the Head Coach or not is just plain boring and tiring and makes the Raiders uninteresting. I hate following something with so much unrest.
In all honesty, not having stability at the Head Coach position makes the Combine, Draft and any added players irrelevant at this point because that is not above having the proper leadership to lead this team. Many will feel that players will make this team better and not coaching but I am of the opposite thought.
This information needs to be clarified and revealed otherwise…nothing that happens with the Raiders currently even matters. Its pointless. Its action without reasoning and without goals or destination.
Whatever.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Mistabrown, in terms of need Ellis should be there for us, Miami needs a DE to replace Jason Taylor who hasn’t lost step but can’t play forever so they’ll likely take Chris Long. The Rams need defensive help also and DE Vernon Goulston is ranked higher on all boards than Ellis, Atlanta would be crazy not take a QB and Ryan looks like he’ll be going them. So it’s our pick next if Al doesn’t trade down and we can take McFadden or Ellis or whomever the football gods decide to give us.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Unknown — you might want to re-read my post #142 on the accuracy of hand timing. There’s a word that I put in there explicitly to preempt the type of response that you came back with.
For your edification: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm
For extra clarity on the intent I even added one of these
I’m not sure what else I can do to help the humor impaired, but I’ll keep it as my life mission to increase the levity degree in the world by whatever small amount that I can.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Oakglenn, Duane Brown is very athletic but he needs a ton of work on technigue. I’m not sure if he’ll get drafted, maybe in the 6th or 7th.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
There is no need for Al Davis talk.
Al is god. Enough said.
I’m sure the decision has already been made but just for conversation’s sake:
Who would you rather have as the Head Coach next year; Ryan, Lofton, or Knapp?
February 24th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Some earlier posts were talking about WR Dexter Jackson and his speed. I work at Appalachian State U. and go to all home games and can tell you the guy didn’t just smoke against Michigan. He has for several years been a really talented receiver, fast, and the go to guy for three different QB’s. Jerry may be right in comparing him to Carlos Francis, and that would be worrisome, but he’s also the kind of guy who could be a steal for somebody. Worth gambling on in my opinion …
February 24th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Im not sold on Ellis he looks too small NFL guards can nuetralize him I think. As the draft gets closer im leaning towards Jake Long. Barry Sims replacement finally has to come to fruition this year. If Henderson is the answer fine but SOMEBODY please protect Russells blind side who doesn’t get flagged or pancaked repeatedly.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
boring is winning 4 games a season like we have over the past 5 seasons! priest-take your head out of Al’s rear for a minute and look at our team for what it really is (weak OL, DL, WR and secondary). You have to agree that we need more than a “few pieces”. I have not even mentioned the Kiffin fiasco so far. Any bashing Davis gets is well deserved. I hope next year when Lofton leads us to 3/4 wins you are equally “excited”.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Trade Mike Huff that’s malpractice at this time. He will come around, it takes time to develop certain players/positions in the N.F.L. I think they are to laid back with him covering tight ends all the time. Some of you Raider fans are so smart but others need to relax and take a deep breath. The one thing about Kiffin he made the worst mistake you can ever make with Mr. Al Davis and that is look for another job while your in his employ.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Raiderforlife if its true Kiffin looked at Arkansas or any where Al should put his jimmy in a meat grinder but we dont know if the rumors are true do we ?
I tend to think if he did look elsewhere Al would have showed him the door the second the season ended.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I hope no one in our divison takes Chris Johnson, we don’t need another LT to torment us for years.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Im with you Huff-
one of the two of them need to step up to the mic and make a statement for the fans. They say nothing’s going on. Well someone go public! I hope…..HOPE…..Kiffin is sneakin around to avoid distraction or negative press but this isnt college and it isn’t recruiting. Players don’t have a choice at this level as to who they play for. So why??
he’s going to have to address the press at some time. I won’t speculate like the rest of the world but if he’s sneakin around Indy and not addressing it now it can’t be good. at least from my point of view. If they are rumors and theres no jeopardy of him gettin axed come out and set the record straight.
WE DESERVE THE TRUTH!!!!
February 24th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I know it might look like we dont need a running back now but Darren Mcfadden is a no brainer. Hey you can fix the defense with the offense, the kid can take it to the house bag 6 points. The Raiders need to be more exploseive and have the type of back that can score anytime he has the ball. If you watched some of the runs Fargus made if its Macfadden those are touchdowns. We will not have to worry about teams running the ball on us when where up 21 points early. You have a young
February 24th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Right on Zsense! I am tired of this nonsense. Our team is a soap opera right now.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
[i]test[/i]
February 24th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
being we are bringing up najee mustafa lol what was him name before he changed it to that?
February 24th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Reposted from last thread:
Shadowing Terrapin and BHP, - I want to go on the record to say that the dysfunction within the Raider organization is 99.87% media created.
I have not seen the Raider organization do anything to suggest that any personnel upheavals or changes are in play. In fact, most of what has been reported as info received from those darn ‘inside sources’ or shadowy ‘individuals in and out of the organization’ has been proven over and over to be false. When the whole Kiffin In UA Gear Instead Of Raider Gear @ The Senior Bowl fiasco broke, we were promised by ‘those close to the situation’ that more would come of the status of Kiffin as head coach within the next week or so…
Then Coach Kiffin interviews but somehow didn’t know that Coach Lofton had been hired. We were then told that we would know more of his status as head coach by the Combine. Well, the combine is here, and the only thing we get is that Kiffin’s shirt again lacked the Raider’s shield, supposedly placing him (again) in direct opposition with the rest of the Raiders personnel.
Now the Day of Truth has been pushed to sometime in March. From what I know, it seems as if there was to be a new coach, he would already be on board setting priorities for his staff at the Combine. But then again what do I know, I’m not the one posted up outside of the elevators hoping to get some smidgen of a story from the most elusive ex-HC in NFL history.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Raiderforlife, if we have a nice offense and get into shoot outs you know whats going to happen?
Ryans defense will take the field at the end of a game with a lead and fold up like lawn chair. We have so many holes I just dont know where to start no wonder Kiffin is hunkered down going into this draft.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
More on the Combine results:
Dorsey damaged goods not looking good.
We need a dominant player at DT that can go day one.
we’ve not had much of an interior presence since D.Russell.
DMac looks good, damn damn good with a 4.27. But with a pourous DLine, we will be in the same position a last year, making third stringers with their first start ever looking like ProBowl material.
That is all for now.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
where there is smoke there is fire. I am sick of the “everybody is out to get us” excuse offered by many fellow Raider fans. Al or kiffin needs to step up and end this
February 24th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
RAIDERS SHOPPING MICHAEL HUFF by Michael David Smith
The Oakland Raiders are sniffing around to gauge interest in a potential trade involving safety Michael Huff, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT.
Huff, the No. 7 overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, has started all 32 games of his NFL career and would be a solid addition to any team that needs help at safety. Like all Top 10 picks, however, Huff has a hefty contract that would be a factor in any trade.
As Jay Glazer of Fox reported early in the 2007 season (and as PFT noted at the time), the Raiders were calling teams in September and saying most of their defensive players, including Huff, were available via trade. After taking defensive backs in the first round of five of the last seven NFL drafts, the Raiders may feel that they’ve invested too many resources at that position.
The Raiders also reportedly believe Huff hasn’t tapped his potential, so if there’s a team out there that thinks it can tap Huff’s potential, this is a trade that could make sense.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
I have my opinion you have yours bash him all you want I couldn’t care less because I’ll just go to another site. I want to talk football…………period
February 24th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Where there is smoke there is someone smoking something
It cannot be denied that most of us are being led around by our noses looking for some closure. I was hoping that the ‘Catching up with Kiffin’ thread would yield some info.
I’m getting tired of speculative reports yanking my chain.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
We have a young QB give him one of the best backs in the N.F.L. and a decent receiver and hey will see. Al Davis cant get rid of Kiffin or he will have to pay him that’s why he wanted him to sign a letter of resignation. I want Raider fans to take a look at one thing Mr. Davis has a great vision of picking young head coaches, did Lane Kiffin think I have it made now I can write my ticket anywhere now thanks to Al Davis. He was an assistant coach no one in the world new who he was. Is this taking one job to get another? I am a Lane Kiffin guy I think he puts us in the super bowl in 3 years if he stays. If Lane Kiffin doesn’t want to coach the Raiders he should just leave Baby.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
at least RR has the balls to go on record and speak about it.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Dorsey played most of his senior year with various injuries. Actually showed his toughness. His was a top rated pick going into the year and could’ve just sat it out. There is really nothing major there.
Priest you’re right about Brown being a (God I hate to say this) project. With all the projects we’ve drafted over the years, most of which have NOT panned out, why take another one?? He’ll definitely get drafted probably 4th or 5th round, just because extremely athletic 6′5″ 300 lb guys don’t fall out the sky every few seconds.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
You’re right Oak this kid plays more like a DE than an OL he is nasty. But if he ever gets coached up he will be something to watch. So we’ll see.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Chappy we’ve heard that “where there’s smoke” statement a million times. Most recently with RR getting axed. With regards to the Raiders most of the smoke is coming out of Adam Shefter or Peter Kings ASS.
Think about it all of you: If the entire organization with the Godfather front row center, sat down at the convention centre RIGHT NOW to hold a presser to refute all the rumours you know what would happen??? It would legitimize all the rumours!! The Raiders do the right thing by not even addressing it. Kiff is doing the right thing by avoiding the press because the more you address, the more it legitimizes it, and the more it takes on a life.
February 24th, 2008 at 2:51 pm