Hammerhead pays a visit
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, March 6th, 2008 at 2:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Linebacker Danny Clark, a fan favorite who was displaced as the middle linebacker when Kirk Morrison moved inside for the 2005 season, visited the Raiders facility Thursday.
No word on the level of interest on either side.
Clark was a fairly stout run defender who had problems in pass coverage. Morrison is one of the NFL’s best pass defenders at his position but struggled last season getting off blocks against the run.
Clark played for New Orleans in 2006 and Houston in 2007.
Carr visits Titans
Defensive back/return specialist Chris Carr met with Tennessee, but as a restricted free agent, the Raiders have the right to match any offer.
As an undrafted free agent, Carr brings no draft compensation if the Raiders decline to match. Same with linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba. Defensive tackle Josh Shaw, if signed by someone else, would net a fifth-round draft pick.
Carlisle under contract
Not sure where the story got started that Cooper Carlisle is on the open market.
Carlisle signed a two-year contract and there was no void involved. He remains the Raiders right guard.
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March 6th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
FIRST!
March 6th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
nice to know you pay attention to the bloggers jerry
March 6th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
someone’s got to say it. first.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Finally a real answer about Carlisle. Man oh man, that’s great news.
Thanks Jerry.
Go Raiders.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
First? Wow. You guys are slippin if MaddenRaider gets it.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I can deal with 5th, too. You guys are quick. I swear there wasn’t a post here less than 5 seconds ago. Look, all of our times say 2:09.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
first! bring Danny back!
March 6th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
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March 6th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
clark has always been a favorite of mine, because of his attitude, work ethic, and consstent, solid production, he would be a decent add for leadership purposes, but as far as talent he offes about as much as thomas and williams
March 6th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Oakglenn -
He’s baaaaaaccckkk! We were right. I would love to see Clark back in the S & B. He still has a place in the East Bay plus Clark and Morrison are pretty tight from what I understand. Good chemistry between Morrison, Clark & Howard. I like it.
Jerry -
Thanks for addressing the Cooper Carlisle mystery.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Wow. Does somebody in Alameda actually read this blog?
Have we been arguing for months that we needed a real, run-stuffing MLB and that Morrison needs to return to strongside OLB?
Danny Clark should never have been released, but he would be a fine addition to the roster. Even if he only holds down the MLB spot for a year - until we can take a run at Laurinaitis or Manaluga next year.
Pleased about Carlisle. He was my player of the year last season.
Chris Carr would be no loss. Too short.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Dogg, high five!!!! How many millions of times have I said this: What have the Raiders done in the last 5 years to bolster the run defense???? Answer: They CUT DANNY CLARK, arguably their best run defender. They’re gonna sign him. Excellent job!!
Sorry to Repost:
Scottish I’ll take a crack at this. Good to hear your “voice” BTW.
I’m with you I don’t see us drafting a RB in the second round. I see either Sam Baker LT from USC, Lawrence Jackson DE USC or Trevor Laws DT Norte Dame, somewhere along those lines.
To get our third round pick back, we have to trade Andrew Walter. He’s the ONE roster spot, we don’t need, he has value, there’s an absolute DEARTH of QB talent not only in the draft, but in the league. I would think a 3rd rounder for that guy would be a complete no brainer for some team. Guys coming out like Brohm, Andre Woodworth have actually fallen in scouts estimation. For some team to pay a 3rd for the Pac-10 passing champ who broke Elways records, who seems healthy, is a complete no brainer.
Lastly, who do we take??? If we get a 3rd rounder probably someone like Steve Justice the Center out of Wake Forest, consensus best center in the nation, or Steve Slaton the RB from West Virginia, possibly Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State or Lavelle Hawkins WR Cal. In the fourth round, I like my guy Josh Johnson the QB out of Un of San Diego, or Duane Brown LT Va Tech, possibly Josh Barrett SS ASU.
So, you’re gonna go into camp with one QB??? That’s crazy. No. Trent Dilfer is gonna retire in a week, he would be perfect or Steve McNair to come in NOT PLAY, and mentor Jam. And we have Josh Johnson, who is MY GUY!!
March 6th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
BTW Scottish, they DO read this blog.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
OLB Morrison
MLB Clark
OLD Howard
Much Improved over Sam Williams
March 6th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Well, he can tackle and we do need depth. I thought Rob Thomas was so so at best.
I’d like to see him at MLB to help again the run.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Clark played at the Sam spot for the Texans, so I wouldn’t be so sure we’ll be moving Morrison out of teh middle.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
20 again wheee
March 6th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
wow you guys are a bit slower than I thought…19 ?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
This would be a nice move to solidify the linebacking depth, so that we can draft all D-line for the defense.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
For your info, Clark is not in Alameda for a tryout,..stupid Jerry too dumb and out of touch to know why hes there,..simply a friendly visit,..likely a Raider coaching staff position in his future…Jerry wishes he had the inside info at the Alameda facility that I have….Jerry is a Raider Hater by the way,…a scorned little pipsqueek who is about as trusted in Alameda as Adam Sheffter.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
OakGlenn, good call.
Steve Justice is probably the best Center prospect and we need depth/options behind Newberry and Grove.
Jordy Nelson is an intriguing prospect. I got trashed when I compared him to Wes Welker, but he does have that smart, go-to qualities.
Could I add:
Heath Benedict (Newberry): Very raw and very under-caoched but has genuine potential. I think he could be more OG than OT.
Jeremy Jones (UTEP): I think he is one of the better ILB prospects - good size and decent agility.
Thomas DeCoud (California): A serious prospect at Safety. Still developing but could be a smart pick-up.
I agree that AW should be traded. He is worth a 3rd and as teams seems to be marking down this QB draft class, he could get some attention. I would look at Joey Harrington as a decent back-up for JR.
I would also trade Fabian Washington.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
If we improve this year, we will never be in the position to draft Laurinaitis as he will be a top 5 pick! Go Bucks
March 6th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Tommy Trojan
I think you sold me my seats last year or was it two years ago…I remember a “Tom” calling me at work to get my tickets renewed and getting my seats upgraded slightly…if you are the same Tom…nice to know you are one of us…interested in the runmblings of the Raiders fan base
March 6th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I’m sure Al is listening to all offers for AW right now, getting another draft pick in the rounds 3-5 would make a huge difference in who we can get in the other rounds.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Actually ATL, it was your mother.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Clark Would Be Great!!!
He was a defensive leader and I felt like he left a bit of his heart in Oakland when got cut.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Wow, Clark is visiting and Carlisle is still on the team. Things are looking up in Raider Nation. Now if we can land a starter or 2 in this years draft, I’d say we look like we can be competitive.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Jerry McDonald! thanx man good news and clarification!
I suddenly feel more relaxed about putting Jammy on the field!
Hope Carr signs somewhere else! I would like to see Isaiah Ekejiuba back - and of course Newberry.
If we sign Clark and draft a MLB as Lofton I would be comfortable about the middle of the field. Clark has heart! He has brain too, something our D lacks!
March 6th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Jerry since you have been obviously responding to some of our questions I have one that needs an answer here for everyones number one interest here seems to be the draft.
will we get a “compensatory” draft pick this year from Goodell due to the large number of starters lost to FA this year….???
What are the exact perimeters for these allotted picks?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Trojan, you a tix rep in Alameda?…you know Gigi?..shes my rep….comes to our tailgate in “A” lot.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Hey Raider nation…what about Napoleon Harris ??? He had 116 tackles 1 FF and 1 INT last year for KC.
Don’t you think it’s time to get him back in Silver and Black ???
March 6th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
good calls Scottish. DeCoud can’t play. I don’t know why. Someone will draft him highly, but I don’t think he has game. and I’m a HUGE Cal guy. The guy to look at is my boy, Josh Johnson. This kid is just flat out fantastic.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
We are upgrading at every position, QB, running back, safety,tight end, now we need to draft an offensive tackle and a defensive tackle in the first two rounds.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Kearse resigned with the Eagles. what were they thinking?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
so now that we know carlisle is coming back, anybody think he could be in the mix to play left tackle next season.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I don’t know why Scottish anyone would trash you on Jordy Nelson. He’s got size, GREAT HANDS, runs very good routes, 2nd or 3rd team All American, not blazing but OK speed, but the best part to me at least is he knows how to get open. He’s a good player.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Nickatina, in a word, no.
Carlisle and Gallery are fixtures at OG. Harris will be tried at LT, McQuistan will start at RG, with Green as back up. The big unknown is Henderson. If Henderson is a serious prospect, then he could give Harris some competition.
I still think we would be smart to take someone like Sam Baker at No35. Baker played all along the USC line and would be a valuable addition.
My biggest worry is at Center. Newberry is still unsigned and Grove is too injury prone. There are no decent Centers left in FA and the draft class looks weak. Perhaps Morris is an option?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Oakglenn, do you mean Titans instead of Eagles?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
What are chores?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Kearse is a Titan according to the AP.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Nickotina…
NO! he stays put at RG, he did a great job there, we need him there - Period!
I think Kwame Harris will be our LT with Gallery LG. Henderson and McQuistan will battle the RT job!
March 6th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Nick,..the Raiders will try very hard to get Harris to be starting left tackle…Im sure Cable thinks he can turn him into one, a good one…hopefully that will happen,..not only to protect Russell, but to give the middle finger to the niners.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
“Harris will be tried at LT, McQuistan will start at RG, with Green as back up.”
You mean RT
March 6th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
scottish
“Harris will be tried at LT, McQuistan will start at RG, with Green as back up.”
You mean McQuistan will start at RT, right?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Sorry you guys!!! Titans.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Hey, newbie who reads the blogs e’ryday and can’t keep out any longer because I’m sick of just defending the organization on any other blog spot (with no other true intelligent to be found). Any thoughts on the possibility of the tampa-2 on its way, wouldn’t be the first defense switch for Rob “someone please give him an eye-patch” Ryan. It just seems like we’re being extremely sneaky behind the scenes, and recruiting players with money and hopefully new schemes. Just a thought…
March 6th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
This is My shot at who’s going to be our starting lineup
LT - Kwame Harris
LG - Robert Gallery
C - Hopefully we bring Newberry back
RG - Cooper Carlisle
RT - Henderson/McQuistan
Green will be backup..
March 6th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
I read about Carlisle going to LT in an article and was surprised but it makes sense:
1. Carlisle was our best lineman last year
2. he has played every position but center in his career
3. Why would we cut Barry Sims without a vet lined up to replace him
4. Kwame Harris is Gallery’s twin brother
5. Henderson is essentially a rookie
6. Sam Baker/Chris Williams are rookies
7. Rookie Left Tackle + Rookie QB = problems
March 6th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
# 46… Recruiting players with money?…what the F do you think these players want to be recruited with Einstein?
March 6th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Anynody know Danny Clarks age now, where did he play in 2007 and what his stats were ?
Nice work again Raider management on Carlisle. I cant believe how a dysfunctional organization conducts functional business, any thoughts on that Jerry ?
March 6th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Nick,..Harris will be given all mini camps and Napa time to win starting left tackle job.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Nickatina who or what article is your source on Carlisle?
March 6th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
No sir, you misunderstand, what I was saying was reflecting on how the perception of the media is focusing on Davis throwing a lot of money to bring players on board (which all einsteins would agree with). Now as a practicing einstein i thought (amazing concept) that we might be having as much acquisitional success because of developing schematic changes.
Thanks for the warm welcome.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
I agree that Harris could be in the running for the job, but I think the raiders would have to be pretty confident to cut Sims, and Kwame Harris does not inspire confidence.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
we need a center.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QhEFxYxTXrk
MICHAEL BUSH HIGHLIGHTS if any1 intrested
also Vernon Gholston running thru Jake Long and Mike Hart below
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yot9ClPvZDg
March 6th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
its at bleacherreport.com not the most reliable source, but what is these days regarding the raiders. Its in an article called “why the raiders should draft darren mcfadden”. Just an opinion piece but it makes you wonder.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Clark is 30, out of Illinois. Played behind Demeco Ryans and Shante Orr. 13 games 8 started, 40 tackles, 11 assists, 1 Int, 1 Forced Fumble. Not bad, for a part time player.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Clark would be better than sam williams or robert thomas
March 6th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
If the Raiders don’t go with McFadden, and it seems like the Rhodes/Fargas/Bush/Echemondu combo suggests that they won’t … I would love to see them cut the deal with Dallas and then get the 21, 28 picks in addition to their own 34. They could grab the best DT available at 21, and then still get OT Sam Baker and WR Manningham or Doucet or whoever seems best available. That would be a huge upgrade in addition to the FA signings.
If they stay put, like most of us think they will, I can see best available DE or DT in round 1. But that would make round 2 a tough choice. Thoughts? Preferences?
Oh, and I am so glad we’re back to talking football and not dissing one fifth of the human race like yesterdays, um, unfortunate episode.
Hey S&B SOB, seriously: welcome.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
We got 2 pass protection linebackers - Let’s try and get at least 1 incredible run stopper - Kirk Morrison was doing better on the run towards the end of the year
March 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Your new Starting Left Tackle..
……Drum Roll……..
Mario Henderson!
March 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
—”Rams signed TE Anthony Becht, formerly of the Buccaneers.
Becht, 30, was the Jets’ first-round pick in 2000, but has made his mark in the league as a blocker. He’ll compete with Joe Klopfenstein behind Randy McMichael. This should finally end Dominique Byrd’s run in St. Louis. Mar. 6 - 5:54 p.m. ET”—
I had small hopes for him, because I like the blocking skills he has, a position neglected, our FB cant handle that role because they are not tall enough. So I don’t know if we should settle with Wakefield and Stewart to battle it out…
March 6th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Robert Thomas did a great Job! him and Clark will be great together
March 6th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
If we make that trade with dallas I say we grab a de in round 1 as well as desean Jackson - especially if carr gets signed by some1 else - I could see Jackon being the next hester and in the slot - But I really want another # 2 reciever for JMakcus cuz curry wasn’t very sure handed last year -
March 6th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
SB SOB,…no change in D scheme anytime soon,…Al will die a man to man press guy,..period…thats more important to him then the vertical game…and I have a feeling Harris may shock the bay area, (niners), with a great job under Cable.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
No doubt about Man to Man coverage til Davis is gone
March 6th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Who’s the next Patrick Willis in this Years draft??
March 6th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
It’s hard to compair anyone with Pat Willis, but probably Curtis Loftin is the closest thing to him.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
there is no Patrick Willis in this draft, but I hope the Raiders look at Jameel McClain from Syracuse. He is a former boxer from north philly, and played MLB and DE in college. Apparently he trained with Dwight Freeney this off-season, and Freeney was raving about his work ethic. He wouldnt be an everydown type, but can really stuff the run.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Al Davis would rather be consistently right than consistent, but I know that the d switch is a stretch to say the least.
Stats on DCLARK:
Houston: 51 tackles, 40 solo, 1 ff, 1 int (13 games)
New Orleans: 29 tackles, 24 solo, 0 ff, 0 int (16)
His Oak days were his best, supassing 100 tackles in both seasons. His 3rd best was 90 or so in Jax year 3.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Well its now up to Jammy to fire the ‘Boss’ and make ‘Champ’ a loser!
Then we will drink the Baileys! =)
LOL
March 6th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Gholston will probably be the #4 pick. I doubt we will take McFadden now that rhodes restructured. He is a proven RB that we just got pretty cheap, not to mention Mike Bush will probably be a beast as well. I can’t pretend that i wasn’t dreaming of a black jersey with a silver McFadden printed across the back of it, but if we could somehow get Gholston and Curtis Loftin, we would be a top 10 Defense, even with RR’s rediculoud scheme.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I wouldn’t get too geeked up over Clark, I liked him too btw, but ask yourself why the Saints and Texans haven’t tried to keep him if he’s so stout.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
of course his oakland days was his best, he was a starter in Oakland, he was OLB and backup and ST on the teams after his Oakland days. Furthermore in Oakland he had a D-line in front him who kept guys through… and AFC West was a *Run* division!
March 6th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
would is Curtis Lofton’s or Jameel McClain projected picks in the draft ??
March 6th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
jameel will probably be there in the 7th round, great value pick because he is so versatile.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
right on nickatina - Oren o neil turned out Great for a 6th rounder
March 6th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
well tackles also isn’t an official stat, so take such with a grain of salt.
Personally, I love the development of our young linebackers and would like to let them be.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
nobody knows squat about bush because Mr. conservative Kiff did’nt let ut happen. I’m starting to understand why Davis wants this dude gone!! He held back jr and Rhodes + many other rooks that should have been playing during a throw away season!!!
March 6th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
this site say oakland will cut Jano
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/41035
March 6th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
I believe we should beef up the defense this year to make a run at the playoffs. I am glad we have G. Wilson to help with tackling, but when the secondary have to tackle, a team normally have the first down. If we can get C.Long in the draft and get D.Clark back, we can mix up the “D” with 3-4 and 4-3 to stop the run. Tommy Kely should be good with the 3-4 or the 4-3 since he can play DE/DT. NY Giants showed the world that a dangerous front seven will make you a competitive team. I can’t stomach another year of teams running all over the Raiders week after week and quarter after quarter. We need to be patient with J.Russ and that is why I think we should beef up the defense. What I am really hoping for is J.Russ to give us what Ben Roth did for Pitt his first full year at starting QB. Make Burgess and Asomugha happy and show them the money. Thay earned it already!
March 6th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
If we really wanted to blow our load over injury prone guys with huge upsides…
Takeo Spikes
March 6th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Raider Ninja
I agree with you 200% regarding Clark!! Here we are again falling for the same stop gap players we already have.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
The mock drafts still have us taking McFadden, maybe we still will…
March 6th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
DoeDoe Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
“Who’s the next Patrick Willis in this Years draft??”
Nickatina Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
“there is no Patrick Willis in this draft, but I hope the Raiders look at Jameel McClain from Syracuse. He is a former boxer from north philly, and played MLB and DE in college. Apparently he trained with Dwight Freeney this off-season, and Freeney was raving about his work ethic. He wouldnt be an everydown type, but can really stuff the run.”
This years Patrick Willis will be LB Keith Rivers from USC. The only difference between the two is that Rivers is better than Willis!
The problem with Rivers is that he is a reach at the #4 pick but he won’t last past the top 10. I’ve been saying for weeks that we should trade down for another top 10 pick with an additional pick included so the Raiders could draft Rivers and also get a 3rd round pick in exchange for our #4. If there were any takers on a deal like this I would pull the trigger in a heartbeat!
Also I would like to toot my own horn a bit as well. I don’t know if any of you remember but on the day Kearse became available I told y’all he would end up back with the Titans. I knew he couldn’t resist going back home.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
good positive article for once about the raiders…
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/161415
March 6th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Unknown -
Would you prefer Napoleon Harris or Takeo Spikes over Clark? I like the chemistry aspect with Clark back in the mix, but is Clark washed up?
Personally I would like to at least give Clark a shot and see if he can still bring it.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Finally a place where I can get some info about the Raiders. Noone on tv talks about them except for us “overspending” on the fa’s. I myself like what they’ve done so far. I’m looking forward to the draft to see what direction management is wanting to go. By the way, Too many kiffin haters out there. Give the guy a chance. It’s been too much of a problem going from HC to HC lately. Have to have some consistancy to develop our players.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
“Give the guy a chance. It’s been too much of a problem going from HC to HC lately. Have to have some consistancy to develop our players.”
Tell that to Mr. Allen Davis!!
March 6th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
anybody heard if #2 is in the facility learning all he can to start for us and make a splash?
March 6th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Just heard Warren Sapp on PTI. He says sometimes there are things that you don’t expect in a football org that happens in Oakland. But he did say it is a great place to play football and Al is a legend.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
BTW Dogg
I appreciate the link regarding Walker. He cleared up a lot of things I was concerned about, as far as, the injury and his pretentious attitude about being a #1 WR. Now, I see where he’s coming from. Good educating material for the nation Dogg!
We need a 1st-3rd down MLB due to the high level of man-to-man defense we play. Clark is only a 2 down backer. Also, Raider Ninja raised a good point that he has been ineffective since he departed the Raiders.
I believe Harris would be more effective over Spikes only because he is more mobile. But Spikes brings a knock-out hit that the others don’t!
March 6th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I remember D.Clark with the Raiders and the Jaguars before that. He was a bit lost against the pass, but a beast against the run. I believe we should take D.Clark because Morrison and Thomas are great against the pass and the linebacker corps will complement each other plus hammerhead knows Rob Ryan’s defense.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
So you guys are creaming your Raider boxers for a backup LB from the Houston Texans. I agree we shouldn’t have cut him when we did but we can pass on Danny Clark id rather keep KM out of position in the middle.
BTW was it the genius RR that cut Clark ?
March 6th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
everyone is guessing that Clark would be back at MLB.
I do not think that Morrison is a bad MLB, anyone that knows about football, knows that the DT are the MLB’s best friend, Ray Lewis knows just ask him.
Get a big bad DT that takes up 2 lineman and Morrison is the new Ray Lewis.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
One on each side? Hmmm…
March 6th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Rhodes restructured his deal.That makes him more tradeable.Al loves speed I still think he will take McFadden.I would love for the Jets and Cowboys to get into a bidding war for the #4 pick.Sign Clark Always liked that dudes style.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
BTW Danny Clark played MLB when we had……
DT- Ted Washington.
DT- Warren Sapp.
Funny how that works, I would be good vs. the run with those two.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
It’s funny how many people will blast young Raider players…….
Everyone hated Namdi for his first few seasons, look how good he is now.
Everyone is blasting JLH for his rookie season, only time ill tell.
Everyone is saying Morrison is just an “ok” MLB, what a bunch of crap, give the kid some time and talent at DT.
Just a funny, we ALL do it. Players need time to develop.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
raider just landed bryant johnson
March 6th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Good to see you posting, Once Upon A Time…I can’t help but hear that harmonica playing in the background as I read your posts…I also agree with you on Danny Clark–he just hustled his A** off when his was here…whatever happens, we need that run-stuffing MLB…
Shawnraiders81–yeah, I was all over Nnamdi two years ago…I just got so sick of seeing the back of that guy’s jersey all game, as yet ANOTHER RECEIVER was going deep on him, and he was racing back to recover after biting on the WR’s fake…your other point about Washington and Sapp being the tackles wasn’t missed, though…
Dorsey or Ellis…plain and simple…
March 6th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
davis isnt gonna trade away our #4 pick to get a bunch of average guys at 22-28-34….he will trade it away for a proven player…or keep it for a playmaker…gholston
March 6th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Bryant Johnson! Really? If so, WR is set with maybe one in the draft.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
More clarity
Took a break at the barber shop to take a call from the Raiders from a team official that clarified the salary figures on Javon Walker after getting a better explanation.
He still gets $16 million in the first two years, but it goes like this:
$11 million bonus this year along with $1 million in salary.
$4 million in salary in 2009.
There’s also a $5 million roster bonus next year.
The $11 million is a big number, but is spread out over the six-years of the deal when it comes to the salary cap.
The $11 million divided by six plus the $1 million salary gives Walker a $2.38 million “cap number.”
No matter how you look at it, Javon got paid nicely.
–Jason Jones
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/
March 6th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Daniel-where did u c that?
March 6th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
0tt0, Look at the Colts last 5 yrs picks in the high 20s and low 30s and tell me guys like that are avg.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
YES!!! I have been sayin all along that I was pissed about Danny Clark getting cut 2 years ago. We need to make up for it and sign that monster back. I would LOVE to see Morrison play Weakside, Clark in the Middle and Howard on the Strong side. Thats how I had envisioned it from the start and it was stolen from me so they better freakin fix it so I can finally be happy. Clark is a tackle machine and having quick guys like Morrison and Howard on the outside will help us in the coverage department. PLEASE SIGN DANNY CLARK!
March 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
lol just kidding, dont believe everything you read
just a lesson
sorry
March 6th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Kearse signed with the Titans. Alot of guys are joining their old teams this year. Strange.
Takeo Spikes (LB) got released by the Eagles. He was a bad mo fo at one point. He’d be worth a look.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Daniel is the devil.
I don’t believe anybody who doesn’t have a URL attached to their message about someone signing.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Daniel -
You are like the 4 year old who says “look at me” when you arn’t getting enough attention.
Pathetic.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
huff just kidding !!
take it easy
March 6th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Isn’t it ironic that a team like the Panthers, who can’t keep their QB’s healthy, signed a guy like Barry Sims, who can’t protect his QB? What a bad combination. If Delhomme thought he was injured alot before, just wait.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Daniel - No worries. That statement was light hearted. I knew you were dicken with people.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
i know you were kidding, but people here take everything very seriously and i hate that
March 6th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
These Brett Favre stories on NFL Network are hella funny. You guys gotta watch this stuff. Classic.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
ryan you are the pathetic one because you are paying attention
March 6th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
my name is not tom, and tommy trojan happens to be my internet alias, tommy trojan is the statue/mascot resting on the campus of my USC trojans, i already told you, i don’t work in at 1220, or even in alameda, or even live in northern california, i am a lifelong raiderfan, current raider employee, and live in southern california
March 6th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Typical 4 year old response. I’m done with you.
Am I the only one that feels the Packers will be better now without Favre? Don’t get me wrong, I respect the hell out of Favre, but Green Bay can now play to their strengths at RB, D, and WRs that can take the short pass and roll of the YAC.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
I would not like to see Carr go. He did a heck of a job against Chicago when he was needed to start at cornerback, even though he did get beat for the TD late in the game. I think having a backup corner of that ability is a rare thing. He is limited and I wouldn’t want him as a starter.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Very nice jerry mac, adressed the bloggers nicely, very good info value, and very low bs value thank you sir
March 6th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Brett Favre took his team to the NFC Championship at 38 after a million consecutive games. The Packers have lost alot without Favre. You can’t replace heart and Favre had plenty of talent to go with it. That team may still be competitive but not nearly as good.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
nnamdi has been as good as he is since his 2nd year in the league, now he’s mainsteam because the media and general public only define DBs by how many INTs they make, he has been one of the top 5 man-man cover corners in the NFL for almost his entire career, and this year, nnamdi’s side of the field was only thrown to 18% of the time(stat i compiled myself after evaluating film), he should have gone to the pro bowl the last tw years, and morrion as well, and sapp should have been there last year, and howard should have been this year, but they’re raiders, so they have no chance of getting the credit they deserve
March 6th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
I could care less if Carr is gone. Hes mediocre at everything and could be replaced pretty easily in my mind. His returning skills might have earned him the record on the team but thats only because hes had the job for longer than other players…on a team that has sucked for 5 years. Whoopdy doo. He hasn’t returned one freakin kick so its pointless.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
ryan-
I don’t think any team is better off without a sure thing hall of famer. Favre isn’t washed up, so it’s not like they’re losing a has been hanging on to long gone glory. They will miss him. His crazy wtf was that ints, and his wtf is he doin!!? great play brett moments as well. Aaron rogers MAY be ready, but better without Favre? at least in the short term, i don’t believe so
March 6th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Nothing excites Raiders fans like an over-the-hill released vet whose name they recognize as being good five years ago.
thank goodness the posters here don’t run the Raiders. We’d trade away all our good young players and replace them with 37 year olds who have been released at least two teams.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
so and so got released. He was great in 2003!!! Let’s sign him. whoooot
March 6th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
i’d tend to agree with you huff, bowie should assert himself and step into the dime, while jlhj should step up to the slot/KR/PR, he was a 3rd and is expected to have a significant role, and bowie was a fourth, so is expected to at least play, if carr leaves, so what
March 6th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
great point about carr. he’s a gamer,but his limitations in all facets are replacable. he’s a fast guy, which is why he gets adequate kick return yardage, but he doesn’t have the ability to make people miss. and while he tries hard, he was routinely picked on from the slot[just get a 6'2 wr matched up on him, run a slant or in...voila]. everyone gets attatched to guys and wants to keep them, but unless the guy is a pro bowler, or a dam near pro bowler, he’s replaceable
March 6th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
favre was a good QB this last year, but if he cotinues to stay, rodgers will never develope and their defense great front 7 would be old by the time rodgers got any significant playing time, favre icked the right time to retire, they’re a young team and should develope as a cohesive untit, QB included
March 6th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
pirate arrgghhhh Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Nothing excites Raiders fans like an over-the-hill released vet whose name they recognize as being good five years ago.
thank goodness the posters here don’t run the Raiders. We’d trade away all our good young players and replace them with 37 year olds who have been released at least two teams.
AMEN…preach brother. young vets welcomed. over the hill gang, no thanks
March 6th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
raiderwill, i am a lifelong raiderfan, and if i were in the position mr. davis were in, we would be a dynasty right now
March 6th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Raiderwill -
Maybe better off without Brett was a little harsh. His heart will not be replaced by Aaron. However, that team got really good really fast when it didn’t depend on the gun-slinger. In recent years, the lived and died by Favre’s wtf plays. Now I see them being able to be more conservative and taking a week NFC.
Enough about teams I don’t really care about…
With all the OL the Raiders have signed, I don’t expect them to grab one unless the T from USC or the C for ND fall to the 2nd round, then I don’t think they can resist.
I could see Al doing whatever it takes to get C.Long or Gholston, even if it means trading up.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
If I was in the position of Al Davis…I would win the Superbowl every year…just like I do on Madden. lol.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
The Raiders have never lost a game when I play Madden…
March 6th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Just curious. Whos the 37 year old vet that keeps being mentioned?
March 6th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Ryan - Have you played online? Its just ridiculous.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
ryan, w/all the OL we signed? we signed one guy, released one, resigned one and are hoping to resign one, so right now, that leaves us with one less offensive lineman than we had last year, the 2nd rnd is loaded with quality offensive lineman, the 1st rnd is loaded with quality defensive lineman, and the later rnds are loaded with quality WRs(as is the 2nd), but the 4th, which would be our 3rd pick, has several quality DTs, so the best route may be to take a DE 1st, an OL in the2nd, a DT in the 4th, and a OLB and WR or OL in the 6th and 7th respectively
March 6th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Favre really kicked our butts after he lost his father. Thats the one game I didn’t mind losing. Let the guy do his thing.
Plus…his wife is hot.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
madden is easy, i mean in todays NFL, we would have won at least 3 or 4 SBs in the last 6 or 7 years if you had given me complete control of the team in the late 90s
March 6th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
What I think is funny is that we have a million RT’s at this point. Kwame Harris, Cornell Green and Pat McQuistan with Henderson as the lone LT. Is McQuistan going to try out at LT? He played LT in college I believe. Basically…
LT - Mario Henderson, Pat McQuistan
RT - Kwame Harris, Cornell Green
March 6th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
i don’t mean to be arrogant, but i truelly believe that
March 6th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Huff -
No I haven’t. We got the PS3 this year, so I will have the try that when the next Madden comes out. As long as I can turn off injuries so Walker, Fargas, and Burgess can’t get hurt.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Tommy Trojan - 3 or 4 SB’s? Thats nothin. Give me 7 years and I’ll give you 7 straight. No doubt. I’d just resign Moss again because his attitude doesn’t matter in Madden and I’d just throw deep on every play. Who could stop me?
March 6th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Ryan - Let me put it this way…You think you’re pretty good, and then you play online. Seriously.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Yeah it’s no sweat to let Carr go, cuz we can get another college specialist in the 7th round or undrafted free agent to replace him. I believe the Raiders are gonna draft a corner in the draft anyway if we trade fabian washington.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
What do you guys think about signing David Carr as our 3rd string QB? He’d be alot cheaper this time around and hes a local guy. Why not?
March 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Its Call of Duty time. Peace.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Tommy, maybe a break in ego talk would help…otherwise you tend to overplay your so called role as a raider exec
March 6th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
obviously in madden your going to go 19-0 every year, although, has anyone actually spent enough time to play 7 franchise mode seasons?
March 6th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Huff -
No, I think I’m pretty good, because I make a new player, max him out on abilities, put him is place of Sam Williams, and blitz him on every play.
I figure I see enough losses by the Raiders in real life, so if I am going to play a game, then the Raiders are going to win every time and break QBs while doing it.
March 6th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
IM THE MADDEN KING AROUND HERE JUST FOR THE RECORD
March 6th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
my current madden rec is 169-6, i’d cream you
March 6th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
2 of those loses are DCs
March 6th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
The moves the Raiders made doesn’t surprise me at all. With all the turmoil that our team is in, I knew Al Davis like always would over spend on free agents. We have to because of the perception of our team as reported by the Nfl Network and ESPN medias. Having ex players saying that it’s the worst place to play and all kind of crap. Some of it may be warranted but I think it’s way overboard. Anyways, I like what we have done now we’re pretty much ready for the draft. I hear that LB Danny Clark came in for a visit? Is he trying to get a contract again seeing how Oakland is giving away alot of money to free agents? People can say what they wanna say about the Raiders but u see now that veteran players are complaining about the money that is not being shown to them and that their owners are paying all these new free agents all this money? Believe me, these players are paying attention to the money that the Raiders are spending on their players and free agents. Bottom line, money talks, and *ullshit walks! We will always have players cuz AL Davis doesn’t mind spending his money for players. U see how all of sudden SS Greg Wesley from the Chiefs wants to be released or traded now huh? It’s because of the AL Davis affect.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
like i said, i know i’m coming off as arrogant but i prefer to see it as confident, tend to know what i’m talking about, every year i target players in the draft for every rnd, and most of the time, those players work out very well
March 6th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
raiderkev, if we cared what anyone thought about us, we wouldn’t be raider fans
March 6th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
What do guys think of getting Elam & dumping Seabass? Broncos are gonna cut him.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
% aside seabass really stepped up this year
March 6th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I find it interesting Denver Post report the Raiders are close to cutting Seabass, when the Donkeys don’t have a kicker. Elam is a FA.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
broncs already cut elam…though i saw that a few days ago, and to be honest jano is not my fav player,,,,hes hot when it never matters and always misses the right one that matters
March 6th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Elam would make 100% 40yds in but mile hi air exaggerates his long ball. Plus, he can’t kick it in the endzone on kick offs. He would still out kick Jano’s %.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Were keeping Fatty - other than the Lions game he did pretty good last year
March 6th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Seabass lost the Bronco game, I’ve seen many kicks make it twice in a row, Jano should be one for the money.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Robert Thomas came in for Sam Williams when Williams was hurt.. When Sam was able to play again we kept in Robert Thomas.. But yet we re-sign Sam Williams.. I dont understand that.. I hope the reason we re-sign him was for a backup
March 6th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Mc Clown lost that game for us when jp was wide open - Fatty made the first fg - and that time out RatFAce called was after the ball was snapped - He’s gets a poss on that one for me - it would be hard for him to kick again after he thought he just won the game for us - all the other kickers after him already new what was coming
March 6th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Move Morrison outside and get Takeo Spikes on the next plane to Oakland. AS we don’t have the wide bodies like we once did we need a stout MLB that can shed blockers and Spikes can do just that. Morrison has good cover skills. Morrison-Spikes-Thomas would be a damm good LB corps. If we shore up the run D a few more wins would be a definate.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Not to get off the subject, but as a Raider fan I’ve had enough of the media’s ever persistant dissing of the Raiders and it is the media fueling this dysfunction, just like it was the media who crowned NE and wanted everyone to believe they were invincible, unbeatable, whatever, and in the quest to be right only proved themselves wrong, just like they will when it comes to this team..you ask any football fan, what other NFL teams who went through losing spells simliar to ours were still able to attract quality free agents? No one wanted to play for CIN, AZ, DET, etc., etc when they sucked, but no one reports on the fact that this team that has a combined record of 19-64 (or whatever) still can bring in quality players, who cares if they “overpay”? I don’t understand this over paying thing..if anyhting, Al Davis is telling players that owners do have the money, and instead of ridiculing the Raiders, the media needs to make fun of all these teams like the freaking Patriots who have the $$$ and don’t like to pay their players..how funny is that the we can spend more $$ on FA’s than teams in the top 5 in the league with tickets sales, etc…it boggles my mind..and all these old AZZ retired, lame “repeat what the next man said because I don’t have enough BALLS on the national stage to have a different opinion than anyone and I’ll get laughed at by my peers if I don’t go along with it” ex-players who keep saying the “overpaying, etc, etc” WOULD BE THE FIRST IN LINE if they were playing still…and big face Darren Woodson, Mark Schlereth, all the guys know it…..
March 6th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
I wouldn’t mind Morrison Spikes Thomas as our linebackers next year
March 6th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Warriors suck @ss.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
We Believe Baby!!!! Baron Davis Mr 4th Quarter
March 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
come on why get rid of seabass,they time he has a hard time fisrt of the yr when we still have the dirt mounds from the A’s.dont they open there new park this yr? Besides 65 yards and hit the middle of the post come on!!
March 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
He goes this Dakota guy again…the Warriors, suck, huh..?
March 6th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
ERIC FARRELL
We all feel your pain - Raider Nation vs the World
March 6th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
WERE KEEPING FATTY AND THATS ALL TO IT - AL DAVIS KNOWS HE WOULD REALLY HEAR IT IF HE CUTS HIS FIRST ROUND KICKER
March 6th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
No Eric, they suck @ss, lol, learn to read.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
GHB Bass
March 6th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
DoeDoe Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
ERIC FARRELL
We all feel your pain - Raider Nation vs the World
THATS WHY ITS 1 NATION RAIDER NATION
Not all these wanna be nations!!
March 6th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
What year was it that Shannahan got hit in the head with a duracell battery?
March 6th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
This was very hard to watch.
Kwame Harris is _____________.
http://www.milehighreport.com/story/2008/3/6/13537/29452
March 6th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
2008/2009 He’s gonna catch another one to his head
March 6th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Warriors don’t suck azz, they kick azz…
March 6th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
What’s the record of your local NBA franchise, Dakota?
March 6th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
#179…is Denver even trying anymore?
March 6th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Mr. Davis we just need to complimentary players and we are set for the draft. I would ask that u sign TE Jason Dunn from the Chiefs and LB Kendrell Bell.
Now I have two different scenarios for our draft. See if u like this draft I would like us to have.
1) DT Dorsey or Ellis- LSU or USC (whomever is available at 4.
2) DE Lawrence Jackson- USC(cuz Burgess may act up and don’t wanna play because of not getting a new contract, and he could be traded if this happens. This would be a great value pick for us just in case.
3) WR Dexter Jackson- Appalachian State (If we get a 3rd round pick for CB Fabian Washington as we should, I believe we use this pick for a wide receiver. He would take over Chris Carr’s duties as a punt and kickoff returner.
4) LB/DE Marcus Howard- Georgia (Hybrid lineback that can take over Chris Clemons spot as a pass rush specialist and I think he’s more versatile and could supplant Sam Williams at the LOLB position. (Note: 4.47 at the combine.)
6. Leon Hart- Auburn(Versatile offensive lineman that could play every spot on the O-line.)
7. DT Jason Shirley- Fresno State- Run Stopper to compete with DT Josh Shaw.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
i dont know but i look forward to more games with Fargas runnin all over them down after down
March 6th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Okay, after watching that video, fck McFadden, DRAFT JAKE LONG!
March 6th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Dakota
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yot9ClPvZDg
Watch Jake Long get ran over by Vernon Gholston
March 6th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Poor Eric, crying like a girl as usual. I was just kidding about the Warriors, they don’t suck, they are average…GO LAKERS!
March 6th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Was that a video of the one sack he gave up last year?
March 6th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Pretty frightening, eh?
Whatcha think Jamarcus is thinkin?
March 6th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Mo Collins Matt Stinchcomb — -Robert Gallery finally came alive last year - but i dont think another lineman is coming in round 1 again- They take to long to develope - Al knows he dont got the time - his days are numbered - Just hope Cable can do the same for Harris as he done for Gallery last year -
March 6th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Can Harris play DT?????????
I bet we could put together a 25 min lowlight of Sims.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
no disrespect to the warriors, but they are not a contender, the lakers are the greatest team in the history of basketball, period. you can’t even debate that fact, and they are most likely going to win the championship this year, and kobe will most likely win MVP, since the GM for memphis can’t win it, you gotta give it to the best player in the NBA, who happens to play for the best team in the NBA, can you imagine when bynum comes back for the playoffs……..fish from perimeter, bynum, gasol, and odom inside, and kobe all oer the place, not to mention one of the best benches in the NBA, i’m not going to bash the warriors, i respect the run they made last year, and i respect b.davis, but they have no chance with the LAKERS dominating the NBA, kobe will finish with 7+ titles
March 6th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
you could make a video just like that of tom brady if you spet enough time on it, harris has all the skills neccesary to be a success in cable’s system
March 6th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
7+ titles? Cool, I could handle that Trojan man. I would settle for two more, but if you say 7+, I am down with it.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Im glad we canned Barry FullStart Simms - and F$#% the Lakers
March 6th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
I hate to say it but the Lakers will win it this year
March 6th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Sorry Warriors fans, Rick Barry ain’t walkin’ through that door…
March 6th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
They got around 10 to many weapons
March 6th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
this team is young, kobe will play for another ten years, you have to figure at least 4 more, farmar and bynum are the core of the future, they will be around for the next 15+ years, gasol plans on retiring with the lakers, and he has another 10 years at least, 4+ more tilte await in kobe’s remaining career, which he hapens to be in the prime of
March 6th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
So Drew Carter visited the Titans, is he off the list? What about Bryant Johnson, he seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth. I guess getting one of them might be asking too much.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I don’t know Tommy. That was pretty bad and that was just from ‘06.
I hope there isn’t another video like that for ‘07!!
Sims could be up there!!
March 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
The only team that has a chance will be the Celtics in the Finals
March 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Tommy Trojan, whats up hope you have no hard feelings.
You have good insight to whats up in the Nation so
props to you.
We should run at Takeo Spikes if he can get past his injury.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Fakers go down again.
Spurs take home the trophy. Again.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Who had more false starts Sims or Harris. Harris looks like crap. I hope Cable is on board with Harris.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
I think Drew Carter is trying to get as much $$$ he can get
March 6th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Tommy, it all depends on how much $$$ Jerry Buss wants to spend. Kobe will opt out after next season and re-sign for an even bigger contract. Bynum will want his soon. Same with Farmar. Pau is already making big bucks. That means they have to cut back somewhere and I imagine it will be getting rid of Odom, which will knock us back a little. Hopefully they can keep the current team together through next season.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Thax for the link Saint
March 6th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
dakota, why lower your standards, no need to bash these people’s home team, these are people you communicate with on a dailey basis, many people in my immediate work environment are NASCAR and dodger fans, i hate both, but say nothing, why? because it’s not smart to sh!t in your neighbor’s cereal, have some class man, your a fan of the greatest football and basketball teams in the history of sports, act like it, by which i don’t mean brag about it, but have some dignity and allow everyone else to do likewise
March 6th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
What’s with the Carlisle “mystery”. The guy was always under contract.
As for the Compensatory Picks from as Flores said “losing a large number of starters” to FA: Porter is probably the only one. If it goes by the end of season, DC, McCown, and Clemmons were not starters. Sims was cut - not lost because his contract hadn’t expired. I may not have it exactly right but it probably won’t be much.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Tommy, they know I am kidding, at least the ones I care about know I am kidding, (Mista and Dogg)…to all the other Warrior fans…well, sorry you are not Laker Fans, lol.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
it’s a different story if they root for the queefs, cowgirls, donkeys, dolts(SD), or dolts(IND)[couldn't think of nicknames for SD and IND that both sound good], or UCLA
March 6th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
YOU KNOW YOUR DEFENSE STINKS WHEN -
Your fans lose their minds over the possible signing of Danny Clark.
Your fans think they don’t need to draft a DT because Gerard Warren and Tardell Sands can start.
Everybody else on the team is so bad your fans think Kirk Morrison should’ve went to the pro bowl.
The rest of D-line is so bad your fans think an injured Tommy Kelly is worth any price to keep.
Oh man this is scary…
March 6th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
morrison is one of the top 5 MLBs in the NFL
March 6th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=39697@kcnc.dayport.com
Javon Walker talks about becoming a Raider, his deal, his knee, and what happened in Denver.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Last!!!
March 6th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Seriously… I hate the “first” thing. I do want to say thaT THERE ARE SOME OUTSTANDING POSTERS HERE. really enjoy 99% of you… Keep it up.
In since 1957…
March 6th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
COW…
Who were all the super stars on the Colts D when they won it all?
They don’t have to be super stars, just ball players. Warren can play at a high level, Clark could help with the run (20 or 30 yards less per game would be a huge change), and Morrison is great LB.
How many games did we lose by just a few points? One or two stops could have made all the difference in the world.
That being said, I am hoping for a DT or DE with the 4th pick and more D lineman with some other picks as well.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
freeney, mathis, june, sanders were among the natable stas, while everyone else was a good-decent player
March 6th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Hey alameda insider? since you know quite a bit about the going-ons with the raiders,whats up with the parking prices this season? i heard they are going up to $25.00. just wondering……season ticket holder…have to budget ya know!
March 6th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Kirk Morrison needs to actually EARN that top 5 distinction on the field. No MLB on a team that is last versus the run in yards per carry can make that claim - even behind Sapp and Warren. WAIT A MINUTE! When someone says we need to draft a DT, Warren is good enough to start. When someone criticizes Morrison it is because our DT’s stink. HOW IS THAT!?!
SO If we don’t draft a DT, Morrison will not stop the run but it’ll be okay? Just clarifying.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
people who criticize morrison have no idea what they’re talking about, and our run d struggles because our best d lineman were injured
March 6th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
“and Morrison is great LB.
How many games did we lose by just a few points? One or two stops could have made all the difference in the world.” - Great LB’s make a stop when the game is on the line.
We don’t need superstars. We need guys who make actual plays.
Why is Warren good? Because he made three sacks? Because he looked good for little bursts here and there? That’s been his knock since day 1. He’s a Darrel Russell. Two great plays and poof - don’t see him for two weeks. I’d take a consistant DT like MacFarland over Warren any day - that’s why the Colts win and we give up SIX 4th quarter leads.
Morrison, Warren, and company cost us a 10-6 record. 7-9 if they held on to just 50% of their leads.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Yea, but every time the defense needs to make a stop, they dont. Whenever someone needs to score on the Raider defense they do. The only time they didnt is when Kelly blocked a FG and when that fourth string RB on the Chiefs got stuffed (even though the cut back lane was gaping.)
The Raider defense is overrated. The scheme is way too old. Rob Ryan is not running his defense. He’s running Als.
Kelly is a solid player. Not spectacular in any one area. just all-around solid.
I personally dont think Burgess is all that. He’s ok, but where is he when u need him?
Warren’s inconsisent.
Sands is consistent, only because he doesnt do anything.
Richardson was only a rook. but he’s a promising talent.
LBs can’t stop the run but are sick against the pass.
What good is all that when u play LT, LJ and Denver three times a year?
March 6th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Tommy who was injured? Kelly? Our run D IMPROVED after he went down. Burgess? He stinks against the run.
No it is the safety’s fault. Hate to break it to people who know what they’re talking about but in Ryan’s defense a FS can’t miss a tackle until AFTER the LB’s have blown it.
Morrison is good. If he wants to be great he needs to stop the run and make plays in the fourth quarter. Man I hope nobody on our D (including Morrison himself) is as content with how they played last year as people on here are.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
the scheme is wha costs us games, morrison, howard, burgess and asomugah are all members of the elite at their positions
March 6th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
i’m not content with how the team played, i’m content with the level of talent that more than half the players on our team have
March 6th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
When the men up front do their jobs for once, Morrison & Howard will get their due and will be swarming to the ball.
All LB’s who have to face the O line consistently get labeled as “can’t shed blockers” etc.
If Kelly, Warren, Sands and whoever we sign/draft can plug holes you’ll see Howard just flying around and his numbers will increase dramatically.
Our D starts and ends with the men up front and until they can plug the holes and create a pass rush Howard, Morrison, Nnamdi, Routt, Huff, & Wilson won’t get their due.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
If things dont shape up Aso’s shippin out and Burgess is right behind him.
Cant blame everything on the scheme. Players gotta execute and so far they proven nothing when it counts.
Couldnt stop the Lions.
Got bailed out against the Browns.
Couldnt stop the Colts’ back ups.
And the list goes on.
Aso is the only “elite” player on this team.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
we have one of the best secondaries in the nfl and one of the best lb core in the nfl, and an average dline
March 6th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Even though our record has been horrible over the past 5 seasons, for once just based on talent alone I can see the light at the end of the tunnel:
Offense- If Gallery continues his good play at LG and can cut down on his penalties, he could become a mauling LG in any system.
QB- Russell
FB- O’Neal
TE- Miller
LG- Gallery
RB- Bush/Fargas/Rhodes
WR- Curry
Defense- Expect to see a great 3rd year from Routt and a good second year from Richardson unless C Long/Gholston are drafted.
DE- Richardson
DT- Kelly
LB- Morrison/Howard
DB- Nnamdi/Routt
SS- Wilson
FS- Huff
Considering this draft and what we’ve done with FA, we have several future star players on each side of the ball compared to old veterans when we went to the SB.
There is light at the end of the tunnel.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
“Obviously when Mr Al Davis approached what he approached the only thing you can do is step back and say “Wow”.
Javon Walker
2008
March 6th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
DSM, now your seeing it
March 6th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
ok saint kaufman…. that was funny (179) but since I’ve never seen Harris play, thanks, I gotta say he’s a physical specimen I guess Harris had sh***y coaching. no matter what the dudes an upgrade over sims!!!! Now back to the real question’s how long will Kiff survive? would anyone want he’s conservative approach another year? who will replace him if he’s let go? and finally who would we prefer ryan of lofton, personally I’m going with Ryan, over lofton at least he looks like he will get in someone’s face.
One thing’s for sure all this negative image crap regarding players not coming to Oakland because we are not a stable franchise that’s deffently out the door! “show them the money” money talks baby!
March 6th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
I have heard a lot of people say that Burgess is elite because he puts up some sacks, but he is playing out of position on the strong side, and is non-existent versus the run, I gotta think that is a big part of our line problems. I think we need to get Gholston, Harvey or Merling and use Burgess on 3rd downs only.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
NFL Network Film Session Friday at 5:30 Eastern
Chronicle of the Early Years of the Oakland Raiders - Their move to Los Angeles and Their Return to the Bay Area
March 6th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Tommy Trojan- “Now I’m seeing it.”
I’ve been preaching since the first game of ‘07 when we didn’t give up 3 sacks in a row that we were on the right path and wasn’t surprised to see Miller excel as I’m a Pac 10 guy.
Just watch, O’Neal Cousins drafted in the 4th by Oakland to be future LT.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Please don’t forget Clark and lack of discipline protecting his gaps. That is why he wasn’t resigned. He made a lot of tackles at other players expense. We don’t need to add to our problems. But maybe, we can sign him for 22 million with a 10 million signing bonus..We have to start signing solid players like Kawame Harris,YEA RIGHT… we should of just kept Sims, because there is not difference between Sims or Harris play, because they have the same game. No pass blocking ability, offside penalties, forget the snap count. What the hell are we doing. I guess we wasted another draft pick with Henderson. When was the last time we fired anyone in the pro personnel department, or our scouts who evaluate college players? Forget signing players we need to clean out the whole scouting department unless they give Al good evaluations and he still selects his choices based on track speed. We need to do everything we can to trade the 4 pick so we don’t draft another Gallery..and please don’t tell me Gallery is doing fine at left guard. Its not happening. Just watch how he is taken to the ground by much smaller players..
March 6th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Everyone doggin on the Harris signing need to remember that no one has seen him play in Cable’s Zone Scheme.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
burgess is actually solid against the run, however, he is a pass rusher, and sapp was a situational pass rusher who was average at best against the run late in his career, having them both on he same side will hurt you
March 6th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
i hope your right about drafting cousins, he has been one of may favorite prospects for a while
March 6th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
exactly, he cant be on the strong side its idiotic, I have heard that Ryan prefers it that way, and I have also heard that Burgess played on that side in college and is more comfortable there. Either way you cant him over there every down.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
bob, are you sure your not a donkey fan?
March 6th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Oniel Cousins:
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/onielcousins.html
March 6th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Strengths:
Extremely athletic…Very quick and agile…Light on his feet and slides well…Mobile with good range…Has long arms with some size potential…Flexible and a natural knee bender..
That sure sounds like a zone blocking LT that won’t get drafted until at least the 4th.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
peace for today
March 6th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
late
March 6th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Hi. I pick my nose and eat my boogers.
March 6th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Bad Ronald = Alameda Insider
sorry bro but you got…
Aced Out!!!
March 6th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
hey burgess sticks guy… you gotta admit it’s pretty cool when burgess gets a sack and does some gangster pose.
March 6th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
I cant stop crying someone plaese help me! or find me a handsome fella. call me @ 867-5309
March 6th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
i hope we dont trade AW, I think he can become a great player as well, hopefully we will be up by a bunch so he can come in get experience with a real line and show what he can do- if we end up with two great qb’s, we can either keep them or get much more than a 3rd rounder for AW next year- maybe even a first if all goes well
March 6th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
After watching that Kwame Harris video, I think we better draft Jake Long. We can always pick up a defensive tackle in the second round. Ay Caramba!
Harris looks more like a tight end. He has is quick, but his center of gravity is too high to be a good tackle.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
A team with an “elite secondary, elite LB’s, and an average D-line” doesn’t collectively stink as bad as our defense did. Period.
Teams ran stretch left and when the backs cut back RIGHT AT BURGESS - he whiffed. Constantly. He is terrible against the run.
In the GB game Morrison and Howard had Ryan Graham bracketed in the open field and Graham just ran around both of them. No o-linemen, no sfety in the way - no excuses.
Asomough is the only elite player on our Defense.
The mentality on here is the exact same mentality that kept Whitted and Morant around. When these guys were cut nobody signed them - that’s not talent.
Talent is judged by what they do on the field. It is not based on 1) how popular they are (Eche), 2) when they were drafted (Moses), 3) if they looked good in college (Bing), their “potential” (Morant) or if they had one big season in 2003 (Crockett).
It’s a pretty good indication if when they get cut nobody else wants them, they had no talent.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Correct me if i am wrong but was Dannys Int against us. I would love to see him back playing for us. And I agree with Harrington as a back up I think he may fit the system well. That is if it is the same system next year.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Coach I completely agree with you, and I catch a LOT of flak about it. when I breakdown tape of opponent offenses going at our defense I see our guys losing their individual battle 75% of the time. The secondary actually plays pretty well. when you take the secondary out of it, the front 7 lose their individual battles about 85-90% of the time.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Drray don’t worry we aint tradin’ Walter for no #3, now is nt the time to shop Walter. Get him to camp and showcase him. That way you operate from a position of strength and not weakness. He could possibly get us a first as yu mentioned because that kid can play.
I say we keep him until Russell is established bonafide star. And then you might want to keep for insurance. I know Oak wants his boy Josh Johnson and for good reason that kid is going to be one of the few very good QB’s that come out of this draft, but he’s going t be a rookie.
COW everyone knows and has said at least a million times and counting we need defense. What else is new. They are addressing the defense and will continue to do so. It’s early relax
You might nt agree that we have talent on defense but put these kids on the open market and it would shock you what the rst of the league thinks about them. Look how quick Brayton got a buyer. You guy’s love to rip the players on this team. But every team in the NFL is trying to get better not just the Raiders, no one has allstars at every position. We have a very talented young defense wether you agree or not Howard and Morrison and Burgess are very high level players and Huff as well.
And that aint speculation these guy’s are very talented. So is the secondary. Name one secondary that’s better outside of GB.
A commn theme in here is the underappreciation for the talent on this team. Because you just don’t understand how critical good consistent QB play is on a team. Russell will elevate the entire competitiveness of this team and you’ll see we will win games that we’ve been losing for years due to his leadership and playmaking ability.
The QB is HUGE in this league, and with Walter and Russell we’ve got that thing solved and working on the rest.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
“A couple things we saw and heard on Wednesday, the sixth day of free agency …
– Thought things couldn’t get any stranger in Oakland? They could. In the wake of driving the market out of control — and the league’s other owners crazy — the Raiders have taken the very unorthodox measure of going public with full details of the contracts handed out to Javon Walker, Tommy Kelly and Gibril Wilson. Hopefully, they have someone to wipe the drool off Al Davis’ jumpsuit, too.
The Oakland Tribune’s Jerry McDonald also notes is that post that on none of the team’s press releases to trumpet these signings is there a comment from Raiders coach (for now) Lane Kiffin. And yes, usually there is one from the head coach.”
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/this-and-that-1.html
March 6th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Oh ya,..ok,…and how many of me are in here now old friend?…last time I was in here you were warning me of the “real” AI…how many AI`s are there now?…I can tell you,..just one….dont know a Ronald….but as I always tell you,..think what you want, but we all know its YOU with the multiple personality disorder….and by the way, my contact on the island tells me tonight there will be no removal of Kid Kiffin at owners meetings as I was previously told,..so there you have it. Good night all.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
“IT’S GOING TO be intriguing to see where the Oakland Raiders offseason maneuvers go from here, because at the moment, it’s hard to see how they are appreciably better than the 4-12 team that ended the 2007 season.
Some would argue the Raiders actually might be worse, considering there have been far more subtractions to the roster than additions. And that doesn’t even include head coach Lane Kiffin, whose status remains a mystery.
Yes, the Raiders made a nice, much-needed free-agent signing of safety Gibril Wilson on Friday. Wilson could play either free or strong safety, and he’s a major upgrade over either Stuart Schweigert or Michael Huff. Wilson might be Oakland’s best signing since Derrick Burgess.
That said, everything else the Raiders have done so far has simply maintained the status quo — Nnamdi Asomugha, Tommy Kelly and Justin Fargas were re-signed at significantly higher prices — and they still have to fill several glaring holes at key positions.
It’s a bit daunting to consider all the familiar faces who have left town. Longtime starting wideout Jerry Porter is gone. Starting left tackle Barry Sims is gone. Daunte Culpepper and Josh McCown, the two men who played most of the time at quarterback
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last year, are gone. Chris Clemons, who logged eight sacks in limited end duty last year, is gone. Tyler Brayton opted out of hisfrom Sports 1
contract and is gone (and probably won’t be missed). Tailback LaMont Jordan will be gone, and it remains to be seen about Dominic Rhodes. Then there’s Warren Sapp, who has gone into retirement. ”
http://www.marinij.com/ci_8447207?source%253Dmost_emailed.26978592730A3B8C7F471EACE0DA4EF2.html
March 6th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Maddenraider, who hasn’t seen this piece of crap you just posted it’s outdated as you should’ve noticed by the comment on Rhodes.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
sad dumb raider no one cares what you think
March 6th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
“Can anybody think of a more absurd NFL contract than the one Al Davis just gave Javon Walker?
Walker is a good receiver coming off his second serious knee injury in three seasons. Randy Moss is completely healthy and on the tier under Jerry Rice of elite receivers in NFL history. And Walker got a bigger contract.
Unbelievable.
The disaster Al Davis has created in Oakland keeps getting worse. Poor Lane Kiffin.”
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/if-there-was-any-doubt-that-al-davis-was.html
March 6th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
“Al Davis. He always will have his core of loyal supporters. But that’s five people. What I hear from a lot of fans sounds like disgust and outrage. They can’t believe the way Davis is jacking around his kid coach, courting catastrophe. And the way Al deflects blame makes Roger Clemens seem like a stand-up fellow.
One more Raiders season in the four-win range and the angry cries of the mob will drown out Davis’ ramblings about the greatness of the Raiduhs.”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/06/SPP8VE9C1.DTL
March 6th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
“On the eve of free agency, the Raiders should be thinking about how to make the necessary fortifications to a talent-starved club that went 4-12 in 2007. They should be devising a strategy to determine how to resuscitate a defense that fell from third in 2006 to 22nd in ’07. They should be scouring the list of available wide receivers to come up with a guy or two who could aid in the maturation of last season’s No. 1 overall draft pick, QB JaMarcus Russell.
But because of the ambiguous job status of head coach Lane Kiffin, the Raiders can’t do this. Their head-coaching conundrum overshadows everything. For those of you who choose to get their daily dose of drama via “Days of Our Lives,” here’s a quick refresher on how we got to the current impasse:
1) Kiffin wants to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, not surprisingly after Ryan’s stink-job of a season.
2) Owner Al Davis says no.
3) Kiffin, pissed off that Davis blocks the move, flirts with the University of Michigan and the University of Arkansas about their openings.
4) Davis, pissed off that Kiffin would think about leaving, reportedly asks for a letter of resignation from Kiffin, a rumor that the Raiders vehemently deny.
5) Days later, Kiffin shows up to coach the Senior Bowl, sans Raiders paraphernalia. He was recently seen in Indianapolis for the Combine, again doing his best to showcase as little affiliation with the Raiders as possible.
So here we stand, a day before the annual NFL job fair opens, and the Raiders are in a football purgatory of sorts. Instead of getting ready to hand out fliers enumerating all the benefits of signing up for the Silver and Black to all the window-shopping free agents, they’re instead consumed by the overarching headache of who will be calling plays for them in 2008.
Say what you will about Kiffin’s lousy job on the sideline in 2007, the Raiders’ precarious predicament falls squarely on Davis’ shoulders. Year after year, decision after decision, Davis has proven ill-equipped to handle the demands of leading a modern-day NFL franchise. Within the last year, the blunders have become too big to ignore.
For starters, the appointment of Kiffin was doomed from the start.
Raiders head coach Lane Kiffin
Lane Kiffin
To say that Kiffin was an out-of-left-field hire would be a significant understatement. Here’s a guy who merely shared offensive play-calling duties at a college program for all of one year before getting the chance to head up an organization. Not that Davis exactly had his pick of the litter. After all, his overture had already been rejected by Steve Sarkisian — the man with whom Kiffin shared offensive coordinator responsibilities at USC.
But the bigger problem is that Davis fails to recognize what an NFL head coach’s responsibilities entail. A head coach is not merely a man on the sideline wearing a funky headset who decides whether to go for it or punt on 4th-and-2. Head coaches need to be intimately involved with personnel decisions, from players to assistants. That’s not to say that the owner shouldn’t have a say in the decision-making process. They should if that’s what they desire. After all, they’ve earned that right.
But on game day, the owner is the one eating his shrimp cocktail in a luxury box, and the head coach is the one who has to manage the talents and personalities on the sideline to create a cohesive unit. Davis has consistently failed to grasp this point. He wants to play owner, coach and general manager — but picks and chooses his spots.
Alas, there is a remedy to the situation. Davis needs to fire Kiffin, and he needs to do it now. Sure, he’d have to pony up a couple of million in what would amount to a contract buyout, but such a move is the necessary one if the Raiders are to harbor any hopes of trotting out a competitive team next season. The hostility Kiffin harbors toward Davis is enough to doom a team.
Davis would then be able to promote newly installed WR coach James Lofton as head coach, a man who presumably left San Diego for Oakland with this in mind, and therefore a guy who is excited about the prospect of leading a team.
That is, until Lofton realizes what a nightmare working for Davis really is.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Commentary/Columns/2008/sohn022808.htm
March 6th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Sigh
March 7th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Madden,
Al is waiting for the fans opinion of Kiffin to wane before he makes his move. If he was to fire him at the height of controversy there would be hell to pay from all sides, but if he waits for public opinion to sway then maybe they can deal with it. I don’t think the Kiffin issue is resolved either.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:19 am
Yeah I think this team always expects the unexpected. We know its a
business and we know that there is no owner out there that can compare
to Mr. Davis charisma so it won’t be able to shake our focus.
God Bless
March 7th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Well I spoke with Gibril before he signed and he was wondering what kind
of coach Robo was and I told him Robo was the kind of coach everyone
wants to play for. But I haven’t spoke to Jevon yet but I’m excited to
see him in action once he is ready
God Bless
March 7th, 2008 at 12:22 am
Trade Down. Believe it…The Arkansas connection too strong.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Two top 5 draft pick salary = too much loot
March 7th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Maybe, it would be a smart thing to do considering the lack of draft picks for a rebuilding team, however they never rebuild.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Never hear a word from or about JRuss. Anyone have any idea what the young man is up to? Maybe Javon will go pay him a visit and introduce himself.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Morning Hobs Gnarly.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:22 am
I have to give the Organization their props….they are making moves and trying to get better right away and win next year.
Yeah, there’s chaos, but there is also a plan! Screw the Media and focus on business and make them eat their words with performance on the field seems to be the deal. I like it.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Danny Clark always had good years here…
some say that was because he was poaching tackles that should have been made by others…
still, 120 tackles a season is hard to ignore…
i do believe Morrison’s speed is best used on the outside…
and on the inside we need a LB who likes to wrap up and tackle… that would be Clark…
so… my feeling is if we are not intending to draft a top flight MLB… Curtis Lofton would be my pick…
then signing Danny, who already has played with Morrison… and for Ryan… would probably be a good idea…
i do not think Takeo Spikes (awesome name for a player) is a good answer for us…
i like the path we are on… we are not signing thirty-somethings to wrap up their career…
oh, and that is what got us into this 5 year hell-hole…
it got into the Super Bowl, yes… but we have been paying the price ever since…
March 7th, 2008 at 5:32 am
JERRY,
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!!
You addressing Carlisle, Car, etc. That’s exactly why Raider nation respects you. You listen to us.
Concerning Carlisle opting out, I saw two different reports saying he opted out. Going back looking for them again, they were no where to be found. I’m guessing there were some typos by the associated press or something. But it’s comforting to know Carlisle is present and accounted for.
Thanks again Jerry!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 6:07 am
Florida Pete: How does one go about ‘poaching tackles that should have been made by others’? It seems to me that ‘tackles made’ is a pretty cut-and-dried, even ‘pure’ statistic. You see somebody wearing the other team’s colors carrying that brown, elliptically shaped thing in his arms, you force at least one of his knees to the ground. What somebody else should have done doesn’t really figure into it.
March 7th, 2008 at 6:34 am
i was merely addressing a criticism made of Danny Clark early in this thread…
and that is: he was often playing out of position and hence was making tackles that should have been made by others…
personally, i agree with you…
in a typical season, a defense makes about 650 tackles a year…
in my book anyone making more than 80 tackles in a season is doing a damn good job…
March 7th, 2008 at 6:52 am
if Clark signs with us again we can definately run a 3-4 defense successfully. now go for Dorsey or Ellis, if they’re gone, Chris Long, he can play DE & LB (3-4) WOW!!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Good Morning RaiderNation!! So, I hope talk of McFad is now over. We can concentrate on defense with the draft and finally stop the run which we’ve been trying to do since Ryan got here. I could care less if the last 3 picks in the draft go to off line but the Raiders have got to try to get c Long even if we bride to move up with trading Jordan, Fabian, Seabass, etc. OR at the least we have to get Dorsey or Ellis,Gholston.
March 7th, 2008 at 7:20 am
RaiderTW:
Absolutely correct. I am hoping for Ellis. Mobile linebackers need stong Dline play inorder to be effective. Danny Clark ,though a hard worker, is too much of a one dimensional player to really help. Build the Dline with the draft and team defense will improve tremendously.
March 7th, 2008 at 7:48 am
At this point I must say that the team is likely to go DE in the 1st. I wouldn’t be suprised to see Mr. Davis attemt to trade up if Long is within striking distance. We all know Al’s loyalty and Long’s abilities. The question is how big are they on Gholston.
I would’ve loved to see Ellis too since I didnt think Long would be there. I just thought he would’ve been stellar at the DT position. I’m not so sure at the NT vs NFL linemen. He must be double teamed for sure but at that spot the Raiders can get someone like Red Bryant later in the draft.
So I’m not so sure they’re going to go with Dorsey or Ellis in the 1st. More like:
1. C.Long/V.Gholston
2. OT (Baker/Williams) or NT - Likely trade down for a 3rd here
3. NT (Bryant/Moore type) or WR (Caldwell, Avery, Nelson, etc)
4. WR
March 7th, 2008 at 7:49 am
I asked this last night, should the Raiders offer Elam our FG kicking position & cut Jano? The FG % would go up but Elam can’t kick in the endzone. What do you think? I’m tired of losing because of FG misses & it screws Shananhan.
March 7th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Terrapin…why do you think we’ll pick a NT? Are we switching to the 3-4?
March 7th, 2008 at 7:53 am
i like 4-3…
i’ve always felt the 3-4 relies too much on a single monster clogging the middle…
and it’s hard to find monsters to clog the middle…
4-3
four linemen…
3 backers…
yeah, baby, that’s Raider football!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Florida Pete…some of the best Raider defenses have been 3-4….we won 2 super bowls with the 3-4
March 7th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Second and 7 at the Broncos’ 45 yard line. Jamarcus Russell takes the snap, handoff to Justin Fargas, he’s got a hole to the left, he breaks free at the 35, 30, 25, 20, oh, caught from behind at the 17 yard line. (three plays later: Well folks, this Raider Drive has stalled, here is Janakowski for the FG, the kick is up, and it is good, the Raiders take a 10-3 lead. Raiders go on to lose, 13-10)
OR
Second and 7 at the Broncos’ 45 yard line. Jamarcus Russell takes the snap, handoff to Darren McFadden, he’s got a hole to the left, he breaks free at the 35, 30, 25, 20, 15, 10, 5 TD RAAAAIIIIDERS!
Raiders win 14-13.
DRAFT MCFADDEN! (Or Chris Long)
March 7th, 2008 at 8:02 am
ooops, Janikowski…sorry you Polish cannon you.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Second and 7 at the Broncos’ 45 yard line. Jamarcus Russell takes the snap, handoff to Darren McFadden, he’s got a hole to the left, he breaks free at the 35, 30, 25, 20, 15, 10, 5 TD RAAAAIIIIDERS!
Raiders win 14-13.
OR
Raiders McF scored 14-10. Broncos run the ball 7times, Raiders DT can’t stop the run. Broncos run out the clock & score on the ground 17-14 because we look like the 1980s Chargers all offense no defense.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:15 am
I just used that terminology to distinguish b/t the two DTs in a 4-3 scheme.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Pick your poison, lol. Although TW, if we draft McFadden we could pick up DT help in round two…Fix both problems at once.
And yes, our running game is a problem…we only scored something like 6 rushing TDs if you take QB’s rushing TDs out of the equation.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Cutting Sea Bass hardly maks sense. the Rat would have him in Denver that same day. would kick 85 yarders at mile high.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:26 am
what we need to do is ….. trade our 4thround to the jets for there first round … there dt and there third round…. its insurance just in case kelly isn’t ready .. .. then with our pick we can take a defensive tackle or gholstein the hibrid outside linebacker ….. we can still bring in .. clark because we shouldn’t of never let him go …. thanks art shell…. and the reason our linebackers struggle against the run … is because the deline wasnt keeping the oline off our guys … so if someone agrees holla at me …. also we need another cornerback.. routt and washington are suspect … especially washington … and we need another reciever to go along with walker….
March 7th, 2008 at 8:28 am
another thing rob ryan should run the 4 6 like his dad and leave huff in the back to get grab happy and get those interceptions…. yeah
March 7th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Don’t shoot the messenger, just passing info along:
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080307/WIRE/803070344/1010/SPORT01
March 7th, 2008 at 8:35 am
ace_douche40 Says:
would kick 85 yarders at mile high….
….and miss, as well as the 40yrders. But they’d have highth & length.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:40 am
i just read that dakota. then i emailed him and called him a fu%$ing retard
March 7th, 2008 at 8:42 am
Just for giggles, the Raiders should change their pirate to a clown.
—What a crock, how bad is Arz? Detro? the last 30 yrs? They get a pass? How about the Rams? 49er2? Clev, Bills, Dolfins? As Homer would say, “Kiss my hairy yellow butt!”
March 7th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Musing, just wondering if Favre will be a unanimous HOF selection. How can anyone not like the guy? He represents everything that is good about the game of football.
It was the one criticism I always had in myself with Gannon. He never seemed satisfied, never seemed to get a kick out of the game on the field. He laughed so rarely that I found his demeanor to be tiresome. Yes, each deals with things a different way, but hell man, you’re being paid millions to play a game. Isn’t that worth at least a smile?
Don’t blame SeaBass for the O’s inablity to put the ball in the endzone. His kick-offs are fine. Score some red zone TD’s and even Ryan’s boys will look better.
Just rambling. Good morning.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Morning
I´ve been reading some opinions on the Walker deal where people like Mike Florio and others say: ”you give a guy with injury concerns a one year, prove it deal”.
Ok, say we give Walker a one year deal for 5 million or something, if he has a good year in 2008 he´s a free player again and we have to outbid every other team interested in his services in an uncapped year. How is that a good thing?.
The way it is now, we have the option to keep him a Raider by picking up his 5 million bonus on 09, if he plays well, he´s ours.
If he´s cut, we take the cap hit on an uncapped year.
It´s a risk and we may loose good money but if he shows he´s healthy and produces he would command even more money in the open, uncapped 09 market.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:50 am
i wonder what team this fool writes for. i bet his team is winning for now. once they are losing he wont have a job.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Broncos now have Boss & Champ Bailey, when they were born the Dr. should have slapped their mother. I wonder what their sisters names are? Sissy, Missy, & Pissy?
March 7th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Hey Dakota:
I just saw your post from yesterday where you say that the Warriors suck @ss…
Well what was the outcome when the Lakers came to Oakland earlier this season and played the Warriors? Or have you forgotten? What is Phoenix’s record against the Warriors this year? What is San Antonio’s record against the Warriors this year. What happened when the Celtics last played the Warriors? What happened when Cleveland last played the Warriors?
Do your research, and then when you do, get back to me with the answers to those questions.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:51 am
I’ve hated Lowell Cohen since I read him first time! He is not a journalist, he is a tabloid writer, nothing more…
RaiderTW…btw Detroit is called Lions because “its the strongest animal in the jungle!” !? I always found that funny, why doesn’t anybody write a story about that? I’ve never heard about a Lion in a jungle, perhaps in cartoons, but never in real life =)
March 7th, 2008 at 8:54 am
The Lion is also the LAZIEST animal in the jungle.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:54 am
RaiderTW…
see post #72
http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/03/06/hammerhead-pays-a-visit/#comment-130283
March 7th, 2008 at 8:55 am
RaiderTW…
well they are lazy, but still not in the jungle…
March 7th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Lowell Cohn is a whiners beat writer, thats the funniest part. They are more pathetic than us right now, I guess misery loves company.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Any Bronco fans out there…try to dispute the fact that your coach is not a rodent.
http://s2nblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/coachratfink.jpg
That’s a Rat if I’ve ever seen one.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:00 am
La Milicia Negra, good one, hell Howard got more INTs than champ.
I’ve only seen them at the zoo, maybe Detro’s problem is they’re too domesticated,huh?
March 7th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Kush,
According to you the Warriors have never lost! Wow, the first ever undefeated NBA season!!! How come I haven’t heard more about these Warriors?!
March 7th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Anyone read about Ocho Cinco actually punching Marvin Lewis in the face?.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Yalls Trippin is THE KING.
Long live YALLS TRIPPIN.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:09 am
I just read that Bob….and they still wanna keep him or so they say.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:10 am
what about taking it back to the days or yore and acquiring malcontents like Chad and Pacman? Pac would come cheap…
March 7th, 2008 at 9:11 am
NOTICE: NBA Content, please forgive me!
Jeez Kush, yeah they beat the Lakers last time they played…so they are what 1-9 in the last 10 against the Lakers? Lol. Do your research, please, before you embarrass yourself and all the other Warriors’ fans.
Yeah they beat all of those good teams…but they must be losing to some pretty bad teams if they are still in 8th place, right? Why do they play so well against the elite teams and then choke against the scrubs?
Admit it, the Warriors will never be in the same class as the Lakers. Sure, they might make the playoffs, maybe an upset or two, but they will never have the sustained winning that the Lakers have had over the past 30 years. When was the last title the Warriors won? 1976?
GO RAIDERS!
March 7th, 2008 at 9:18 am
the warriors are 37-23, that’s respectable, but they’ll barely make the playoffs, if they do at all, it could take 50 wins to get in, and if they can pull that off, they’ll be out in the 1st rnd anyway, the lakers will win the title, dakota is comparing the warriors to the lakers, which isn’t fair, because compared to the lakers, the warriors do suck, but they are a respectable team, and they have a chance of not being swept by the lakers if they play in the playoffs, but they can’t win, and won’t
March 7th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Mike Florio said he´s gonna take an in-depth look at the Raider organization today in sporting news, should be a ”fun” read.
Allright, later.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:24 am
I cant stand how the NFL and all its media pour on all the negativity and exploitation it can about the Raiders and the the Nation.
I feel they are jealous because they will never command the fandom and power we do.
Power is in the People Nation!
Like I tell everyone, to be a raiderfan is not just being a fan its a lifestyle, Win or Lose.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Well said, R8R_ERN
March 7th, 2008 at 9:32 am
R8R..
which story?
this one?
http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/07/panthers-grab-johnson/
March 7th, 2008 at 9:32 am
# Hobs Gnarly Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 12:15 am
“Madden,
Al is waiting for the fans opinion of Kiffin to wane before he makes his move. If he was to fire him at the height of controversy there would be hell to pay from all sides, but if he waits for public opinion to sway then maybe they can deal with it. I don’t think the Kiffin issue is resolved either.”
………..
Hobs Gnarly,
If fan interest is keeping Al from firing Kiffin, then that’s all the more reason for me to keep bringing it up! I don’t want him gone. Thanks for the memo.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:36 am
“We know Al Davis tried to dump Lane Kiffin. There was that letter of resignation Al tried to jam down the kid coach’s throat. Kiffin regurgitated the letter. We assume Al is working on a buyout. In the weird funny world of the Raiders, where no normal logic applies, this would be logical.
Let’s pause a moment for a wacky Raiders aside. When Al introduced Kiffin to the media last year, Davis called Lane Kiffin Lance Kiffin. You know that, right? All year, I referred to Lane as Lance. I couldn’t help myself. It was part of the hilarity. I mean, Al didn’t even know his coach’s name. A friend of mine — a columnist for another paper — went on TV to discuss the Raiders and right there on camera he called Lane Lance. “It was your fault,” he later told me, laughing. I guess it was my fault.
But it’s not my fault the Raiders are pure comedy.
Anyway, it’s fair to assume there will be a buyout, although it seems awfully late to bring in a new coach now. The two frontrunners for next sucker coach are Rob Ryan and James Lofton. Ryan is the hefty defensive coordinator Lance tried to dump before he himself got semi-dumped. Are you following this?
Switch to Bill Walsh. When Bill was in the hospital — dying, sad — we would talk on the phone and sometimes, if he needed cheering up, he’d say, “Let’s talk about the Raiders.” I could hear the laugh in his voice. He was not feeling malice. He was feeling the fun — the pure giddiness of the Raiders. He liked and admired Al, but he saw what was going on with the Silver and Black and, well, it was wackiness to the max.”
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080307/WIRE/803070344/1010/SPORT01
March 7th, 2008 at 9:39 am
“I bring up Bill because a moment ago I brought up Rob Ryan. One day Bill said to me, “What do you think of that defensive coordinator?”
I could see where this was going. I said something like, “You mean the heavy-set guy?”
“Yeah, that’s the one.”
Bill, who always was proud of his appearance, said the guy didn’t cut the right image for a coach of athletes. I asked if Ryan could have been a coach on Bill’s staff. That’s when Bill started chuckling. “No way,” he said, although he didn’t say, “No way.” He uttered an exclamation I’m not allowed to print in this paper.”
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080307/WIRE/803070344/1010/SPORT01
March 7th, 2008 at 9:41 am
i wonder what the reporter looks like? and did anyone ever mistake Madden for a supermodel?
March 7th, 2008 at 9:44 am
The reporter isn’t a football coach, Payback. Rob Ryan is. Also, he was quoting Bill Walsh. If he’s quoting Bill Walsh correctly, what Walsh was saying is that someone who’s out of shape shouldn’t be a coach of athletes.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:46 am
That Cohn article is pretty inflamatory. Sure, there’s some truth riddled in there, but damn man.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Madden had a gut when he was coaching here, but he looked nothing like Rob Ryan. Ryan looks ridiculous. Madden didn’t really start to balloon until he retired. And, I’m not saying I agree with it all, anyway. I don’t think being in shape is a requirement for being a football coach. But when you suck (Ryan does), and you’re out of shape? Kind of a double whammy. Madden was a winner.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:47 am
I was writing about the CJ pic @ pft.com.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:47 am
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
The only funny thing on this page I saw was the Sprint “all inclusive package” for….$99!!!!!!!!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 9:47 am
I get that, and RR is a bit over the top, but there are plenty of good football coaches who are overweight. my point is its a cheap shot. maybe fat reporters shouldn’t comment about overweight DC’s.
he also says things like “we know” which we actually don’t know. if they “knew,” they’d put it in print and prove it.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Same thing with this blog’s comments section, Ninja. Regarding how people respond to Davis’s critics when they post here. Pretty inflammatory, with a little bit of truth therein. What’s good for the goose…
March 7th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Parcells and Wade Phillips comes to mind, They are really in good shape so thats why they can coach athletes? Or what? those fat pale old men can coach it doesn’t matter if they never wore a tie…
March 7th, 2008 at 9:50 am
So if our coaching is’nt so rebelious looking the NFL and media will get off our backs?
Come here son, I gotta bag of rocks I can sell ya! Lets do work!
March 7th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Al daivs has made a mockery of the NFL and the media for so long that no mater we do, it will never stop.
Thats all Im saying.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:53 am
You mean fat coaches like: Lombardi, Stramm, Buddy Ryan, Wade Phillips, Knoll?
March 7th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Cheap or not, he claims to be quoting Bill Walsh. We’ll never know obviously. So, it all boils down to rather or not you believe Walsh would say such a thing. I know this much: Walsh would never keep a defensive coordinator on his staff, either as HC or GM, for a 4th season after raking low 2 out of the previous 3 seasons, including the most recent. That’s for certain. Walsh wanted to win before all else. Personal grudges and power plays were far down the list of priorities, considering Walsh even had such priorities. We can’t say the same for Al Davis, can we? The only reason Ryan is here right now is to spite Kiffin.
And, agreed, there are plenty of good football coaches overweight. But that’s just the thing: They’re good. Ryan isn’t.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:54 am
I like RR the way he is, its like giving everyone the big “F1″ on the camera,lol!
March 7th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Correction: Make that 3 out of 4 seasons for Ryan’s defense playing poorly, and with him being granted a FIFTH season…I knew my earlier assessment sounded too light.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:57 am
No pun intended with the “too light”, btw.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:58 am
I loved the NFL Newtork cip where Rod Woodson takes a shot at RR’s defensive scheme. Hopefully Al Davis & that fat slob Rob Ryan were watching:
http://www.nfl.com/teams/oaklandraiders/profile?team=OAK
March 7th, 2008 at 10:00 am
# RaiderTW Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 9:53 am
You mean fat coaches like: Lombardi, Stramm, Buddy Ryan, Wade Phillips, Knoll?
…………
How could you possibly compare Rob Ryan to Vince Lombardi, Buddy Ryan (in regards to coaching ability), or Chuck Knoll?
That would be like me comparing Josh McCown to Rich Gannon or Steve Young, because he likes to flush out and throw underneath.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:03 am
# R8R_ERN Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Al daivs has made a mockery of the NFL and the media for so long that no mater we do, it will never stop.
Thats all Im saying.
………..
How has Al Davis made a mockery of the NFL and the media?
Seems to me it’s the other way around. Except in that Al Davis is the one making a mockery of his own team, while the media just calls it as they see it.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Just likea schizo, talking fat, changing it to coaching ability.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Reg.Blog # 20 What a hater
Keep it up JMac good info.
Closing
Lanes
Against
Running
Kansas, denver, diego, and the rest…
March 7th, 2008 at 10:07 am
“They have to change their philosophy on defense to give them a chance”, Rod Woodson.
Hall of Famer that played on the BEST defense of all time (2000 Baltimore Ravens). Rob Ryan would probably say Woodson doesn’t know what he’s talking about
March 7th, 2008 at 10:08 am
this picture is worth a thousand words and we just signed this player to protect JaMarcus,
Go to this link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3278405
March 7th, 2008 at 10:10 am
and woodson is too thin to be a talking head!
March 7th, 2008 at 10:10 am
I guess I am going to go into the fray here, because I am tired of the ignorance:
The following column copied and linked at post #268 is pure garbage:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Commentary/Columns/2008/sohn022808.htm
Why?
1. The article at times tries to be a chronology but has bad chronology. For instance the writer thought that the reason LK expressed interest in the Arkansas and Michigan jobs was because Davis blocked his move to fire Ryan. Problem with this is the season was not over yet. If the writer understands football (which he does not!) a head coach is not doing big picture lets fire the DC in the middle of week to week preparations especially when you are trying to bring out a rookie QB at the end of the season.
2. The article not only follows up on rumor as if it was fact it extends rumor. For instance now Lane is interested in Michigan and Arkansas not just Arkansas.
I could go on there are about 15 problems like this but my 12 year old probably knows more about football than the person that wrote the article. It ticks me off that “Profootball Weekly” has such low editorial standards to 1) let this guy write an article and 2) not at least edit the ignorance out.
Bottom line the poster who keeps posting this crap as whole quoted articles plus gives the links, at times says the media are idiots etc… and yet posts this stuff whole hog and at other times forms opinions on poorly vetted articles and sources. Please think a little before posting and accepting as fact pure unsubstainiated garbage. It does not add to knowledge here it just keeps us going around in circles.
Jerry, if you read this, one of the reasons I come here is I find your vetting better than most and at least you really cover the raiders unlike some of the writers on some of these other sites that are constantly being quoted and linked to by the posters here.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Great link, ATL Raider.
But of course, Rod Woodson needs to visit our comments section here, so he can be schooled on just how great our defensive scheme is, right? Because what would Rod freaking Woodson possibly know?
March 7th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Madden raider you look through your looking glass, I’ll look through mine.
Are we on the same team? You seem to biatch about the team alot, you can move your azz right across the bay.
Al Davis will be Al Davis, the Raiders will be the Raiders, if you dont like it, get the !@#$ out!
Thats all I’m saying…
March 7th, 2008 at 10:14 am
What? Who cares how fat a coach is? It’s not MTV it’s the NFL…..
March 7th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Tom Coughlin, disciplinarian, team always choked and players were very negative toward him.
Tom Coughlin, relaxed, invited veteran players to give him any input they felt to offer, team wins Super Bowl.
Lombardi, no nonsense approach wins championship after championship.
Walsh, intellectual approach, challenged team to be very focused on the details, results were…
There are many ways for coaches to get through to their men and to have success. Saying that RR has to do this way or that way doesn’t hold water. If his schemes are unsuccessful that is one thing, but accusing him of being decent to his players as a reason for failure is unlikely.
BTW, he IS the DC, whether y’all prefer it or not.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:17 am
1960AutumWind Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 10:10 am
“Please think a little before posting and accepting as fact pure unsubstainiated garbage.”
…………
Are you referring to me, or people who quote statements from Raiders headquarters?
That breakdown the Raiders initially tried to give us regarding Walker’s contract? Talk about unsubstantiated garbage…
March 7th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Slob Ryan is a jacka$$…wheather he is fat or skinny.
His grotesque physique only adds to his repulsion.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Reg.#361
Excellent response to crap enforced by
Succer
Oblivious
Heartless
Nothing
Keep em in check
March 7th, 2008 at 10:22 am
I think Al Davis is making this team a joke and I eagerly await the day for him to step down, but he is still 10x the man that Lowell Cohn is even in his 70’s. For this hack writer to make a personal attack on Al just because he is getting old is pretty low. I wonder what Bill Walsh would think of that story about a close friend of his.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Now on to football
LT - Harris and Henderson vs. Sims and Rookie Henderson (upgrade!)
LG - Gallery improvement second year (upgrade!)
Center Grove Morris (downgrade)
RG Carlisle (steady)
LT McQuinstan-Green (Upgrade! McQuinstan played better at end of year than Green and should only improve with Green being good LT-RT upgrade
WR1 - Curry (Steady!)
WR2 - Walker over Porter (Big Big upgrade if Walker is truely healthy)
WRX Depth Higgens (should improve 2nd year but what else? downgrade)
TE - Second year for Miller (Upgrade!)
RB - Bush Rhodes and Fargus upgrade! With Bush and the other two better undersanding system.
QB JR and AW (upgrade with more prep time and AW improving!)
Overall big potential upgrade!
March 7th, 2008 at 10:24 am
I’m trippin meant #356
March 7th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Madden
The difference - Raiders retracted and admitted mistake and media just keep it rolling!
AW
March 7th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Copenhagen, the reporter was supposedly quoting Bill Walsh, who was talking about how he feels someone that out of shape shouldn’t be a coach of athletes. Obviously, we could come up with numerous successful coaches with a little bit of a roll above the waste line. But let’s face it, Ryan looks like a beached whale. Add to that the fact that Ryan obviously is not a winner, where as many of the coaches named above were. Hey, winning makes anyone look better. But when you lose, and you’re out of shape, and you’re supposed to be a coach of athletes? I could see where Walsh was going with that, assuming he said it.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Steady retention with so far keeping
Fb-Griffith & Oniel
wonder if Griffith will get the cash to stick around.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Of course, 1960 ,this is assuming the media is wrong about what they’re saying regarding the Raiders.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:27 am
You know, Walsh was probably an opinionated and arrogant f*ck, but he always seemed to be a gentleman and professional, and i doubt he would have said it was ok to use that conversation in an article blasting davis and the raiders. not his style. let’s ask the reporter.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:29 am
M, I’m sure you were making a good point. But I had to stop reading once you compared Rob Ryan to the likes of Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:32 am
If Kiffin makes it through this offseason, I hope he builds on the experience to become a great coach.
The guy has probably ages 10 years in the past 2 months.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:32 am
So, payback, when you say Walsh was probably opinionated and arrogant, does this mean we shouldn’t take his opinions seriously, right up to his opinion on Al Davis being one of the great football minds?
March 7th, 2008 at 10:34 am
R8R_ERN you are so right, we’ve been asking that question for months. Post #355
March 7th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Ignore the fraud.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Now I know the rest of the story.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Man, I cannot get that bull rush Vernon G. made on Long and HArt in the youtube clip.
If we had him and Burgess creating that much havok. One could only imagine.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:44 am
I have seen one mock draft that has C. Long going first and then V. Gholston second to the Rams, and then Atlanta taking Matt Ryan. Nation, who do we take in that scenario?
March 7th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Madden > Nolan is a coach who’s in shape and even wears a tie and looks real spiffy…that dosen’t mean he’s a winner.
And if that’s Bill Walsh’s opinion fine. It’s actually discrimination. Fat-discrimination!
I don’t give a rat’s ass what a coach looks like, as long as he wins. Ryan has to perform this year…..end of story, but it’s not rational to associate his value as a coach based on his appearance.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Ellis, Dorsey
March 7th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Stupid Doo Doo…if that happens then Dakota’s wet dream becomes reality! McFadden!
March 7th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Copenhagen, I agree with you to an extent. I don’t care what a coach looks like, either; WHEN they win.
But if a coach loses, and he’s out of shape, I could see where Walsh is going with that.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Hey Dakota,
We agree on football and disagree on basketball. I agree with your analysis of Mcfadden being able to convert big runs into touchdowns and being able to turn 3points into 7 at a much more consistent rate than Fargas.
I agree that theWarriors beat elite teams and then lose to mediocre ones. However based on their performanxe in the playoffs last year and their performance against the elite teams in the NBA THIS YEAR, including your beloved Lakers, I really find it hard to refer to them as SUCKING @SS! Holla at ya later Dakota. I’m off to work.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Madden the fact of the matter is that Ryan should have been gone. He’s here now, and he has to perform otherwise he’s out next year.
If we don’t have a top 10 D this year and Al doesn’t fire Ryan then Al’s just a crazy old pimp.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:50 am
we just secured a D-tackle, 2 running backs and 2 RT’s during FA, is there another option behind ellis/dorsey, Jake Long, and McFadden in that scenario?
March 7th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Now the Miami Heat and the NY Knicks… Now THEY Suck @ss!! hahaha
March 7th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Copenhagen,
The Insanity behind the Al Davis/Rob Ryan situation is that it doesn’t seem to matter how the defense performs…Ryan’s job has been safe.
He could be heading into 2008 with his 4th head coach (Turner, Shell, Kiffin, ??). That is unheard of.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Copenhagen, I’m not clear on your most recent comment.
You’re saying Ryan should have been gone.
Then you say that if he can’t perform this year, he should be gone.
If Al Davis would be a crazy old pimp (your words) for keeping him after this year, wouldn’t he already be one now, considering that, according to you as well, we should have already gotten rid of him?
March 7th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Rex Ryan 5-11 fire him?
March 7th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Hey Dakota,
Here’s another question for ya:
Who made it farther in the playoffs last year? The Lakers or The Warriors? Do your research and get back to me.
But on the real Dakota, I got much respect for you man, just not in basketball,lol. Go Raiders!!
March 7th, 2008 at 10:56 am
I don’t see any other option (trade down excluded). If Gholston is gone to the Rams then we have to take McFadden. If we take DMAC, then round two needs to be best OL available, then best DT available in round four. Notable DT’s that could be available:
Frank Okam
Jason Shirley
Frank Morton
All of these guys are Big and would help against the run. Slide Kelly outside with Burgess on passing downs, and let Sands, Warren, and rookie DT eat up space in the middle.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Rob Ryan is probably a great position coach, he gets his guys motivated and teaches some technique, but he doesn’t seem to have a cohesive scheme to teach a whole defense. Have you ever noticed that when the Raiders are on defense it just seems like every man for himself.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:58 am
The definition of Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Al Davis is heading into 2008 expecting different results with Rob Ryan leading the defense.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Madden yeah..He should have been gone, but we’re stuck with him. Sometimes the Organization makes decisions that we all don’t agree with and we have to live with them.
Another factor is that we don’t always know WHY they do what they do. It would be pretty unwise to judge all the decisions that are made based on the limited info that we have.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:59 am
I’m not so sure Ryan gets guys motivated. He’s definitely a player’s coach but that’s due to personality and not so much motivation. If he was a good motivator, Terdell Sands would be the next Albert Haynesworth.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Kush,
You got me on that last one, lol. I hate the Suns.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Vernon Gholston DE
March 7th, 2008 at 11:01 am
Ryan was probably not fired because Al didn’t want another team to get our advanced and top secret defensive playbook
March 7th, 2008 at 11:03 am
That top secret defensive playbook would probably be incredible if we had all the players.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Cope,
You mean our vaunted FFQ defensive Scheme? (Fold in the Fourth Quarter)
What about our aggressive RRPP offense? (Run, Run, Pass, Punt)
Al probably does think teams are lining up trying to get at his playbooks, lol.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Rod Woodson played on probably the Best Defense of all time. If he doesn’t think that Rob Ryan’s defense works…. IT DOESN’T
March 7th, 2008 at 11:06 am
RaiderTW yeah..if we had the players then our scheme would be incredible
March 7th, 2008 at 11:07 am
*Beware NBA Content*
Reality check for all of you delusional Laker fans:
Only 5 games seperate the Lakers and the Warriors in the standings. 5 games! So if the Warriors had 5 more victories than the Lakres then the Warriors would be an elite team and the Lakers would suck? Get a grip. I can’t wait to see the Warriors beat the Lakers in the playoffs, hopefully in the first round.
Laker fans need to realize that you will never win another ring without Shaq! NEVER!
I wonder, if the Warriors do happen to beat the Lakers in the playoffs, how many Laker fans will have every excuse in the book. I know Dakota is man enough to take his lumps, but I get the feeling after living in LA for 5 years that most Laker fans will either run and hide or make lame excuse after lame excuse.
Your day will come and when it does you will never hear the end of it! So much smack talk, let’s hope for the Laker fans sake, that they can back it up. We shall see and I, for one, can’t wait!
Did the Lakers even make the playoffs last year?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Vernon Gholston, DE…
Curtis Lofton, MLB…
make me happy !!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 11:08 am
I vote for Rod Woodson as our DC…he’s in shape and good looking. Bill Walsh would be proud.
Dakota! Don’t mention that 4th quarter stuff! That kills me. I prefer the “the other team scores when they need to” D.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:09 am
my sources are now telling me that the Raiders are working out a deal that would bring Anquan Boldin to the Raiders. This is going down by the end of this weekend. You heard it here first, I am the man. You all will be kissing my ass after this weekend! ha
March 7th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Or, maybe if we had a defensive coordinator that could teach our young players how to tackle and how to use angle of pursuit, maybe then our defense would improve? How many 1st round picks and big money defensive players does RR need before he “puts it all together?”
In my mind, keeping RR as D-coordinator is a worse mistake that Al pushing Kiffin out the door.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Dakota..yeah instead of eating pizza those dudes should have been out there doing tackling drills using Stu as a tackling dummy.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:12 am
I could care less about Rob Ryan’s appearance. If he put a good defense on the field, I would be a fan of his…but he doesn’t, so I’m not a fan of Mr. Mullet.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Alameda Insider Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 11:09 am
my sources are now telling me that the Raiders are working out a deal that would bring Anquan Boldin to the Raiders. This is going down by the end of this weekend. You heard it here first, I am the man. You all will be kissing my ass after this weekend! ha
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wow… but… what’s it going to cost us???
howard, morrison, huff, and bush???
March 7th, 2008 at 11:14 am
You’re crazy Alameda. The only WR leaving AZ would be Fitzgeral as his contract is ridiculous. How would Boldin’s departure give them much needed cap space? I hope you’re right but I don’t see it happening.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:15 am
*Fitzgerald
March 7th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Save your puckers, why would ARZ trade Anquan Boldin when they can’t sign Fitzgerald?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Exactly
March 7th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Dogg,
Too funny. But way to stick up for your team. To tell you the truth, SOMEDAY the Lakers will suck, just like every NBA team. They can’t keep winning and winning and winning. Eventually they have to go through a major downturn just like every team right? I dread that day…hopefully it will not happen in my lifetime (next 60 years I hope)!
I saw an interview with Jerry West and he made it clear that the Lakers can’t keep getting these great players all of the time, eventually there will come a time when they fail to pull off the Shaq, Kobe, Pau, Worthy, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Thompson etc. deals and they will turn into the Hawks. It seems unimaginable, but it has to happen someday…but not today, or tomorrow, or anytime in the next 5-7 years!
March 7th, 2008 at 11:18 am
The only way Boldin comes here is for us to give picks and players in return as they might feel that the only way to build talent on their team is to trade someone with high enough value to land enough top level talent to help fill the roster as they have no money to play with in FA. I don’t see Al giving up anyone. He gave up Nap Harris and a 1st round pick for Moss. There’s no way he gives up Kirk and the 4th pick for Boldin. Moss was a dream player for Al to have.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:19 am
If you need to be taught how to tackle, you shouldn’t be playing in the league, period. I’m tired of hearing people say that it’s the coaches job to teach players how to tackle.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Hey Alameda….most asses have a hole in them …hang yours on a hook and kiss it yourself!
March 7th, 2008 at 11:19 am
whatever, you guys don’t know what I know. I am the inside man. One day you suckers will realize that! I own Alameda!
March 7th, 2008 at 11:20 am
A couple of loaded sentences there, Copenhagen. Why not keep it simple? But heck, I’ve got a few minutes.
You said that if Al Davis keeps Rob Ryan after this year, he’s a “crazy old pimp”. Considering that for now the second time you’re saying that Ryan already should be gone, doesn’t this qualify Davis as a “crazy old pimp” at present day?
Agreed, sometimes the organization makes decisions and we just have to live with them. But according to you, if the leader of this organization keeps Rob Ryan for one more season, he’s a “crazy old pimp”. Sounds like you can’t live with some of the decisions, either.
Agreed, we don’t always “know why” the Raiders “do what they do”. It sounds like we’re a bunch of girls now talking about a guy that we all have a crush on, doesn’t it? Sorry, but Al Davis just isn’t that important, to me. So, although I don’t know “why” he does what he does, I know it’s not working. I know it’s not successful. Considering the years of documented grudges Al Davis has had, I’m free to draw my own conclusion that he’s keeping Ryan on to spite Lane Kiffin, and/or because Ryan is simply loyal to him and easy to control. We know this, however: He’s not keeping Ryan here because Ryan is a good coach.
It would be unwise to judge the decisions Al made based upon the information that we have? Well, you just went from the girl in the bleachers talking about Mr. Magic Man, who just does what he does because he does it, to President Bush’s press secretary, all within one paragraph. Whenever someone says, “based on the information that we have”, you can just start smelling the bull…
Here’s the information we have, Copenhagen.
- 5 straight last place seasons.
- 3 out of 4 poor defensive seasons, including the most recent.
- Lane Kiffin voicing his desire for a Tampa 2 type of defensive scheme.
- Rob Ryan being kept on the staff.
- James Lofton being hired as an assistant coach, despite him having no known connections to Lane Kiffin, whatsoever. It’s also well documented that James Lofton is a good friend of Al Davis’s, and is considered a “Davis guy”.
- Lane Kiffin is practically on a milk box. He’s hardly spoken to the press, not even about our free agent signings, which is not only unusual by NFL standards, but bizarre. Coaches always talk to the press about FA acquisitions.
These are facts, Copenhagen. There is not one thing in there that’s a rumor. Now, based on this “little bit” of information, would it all too presumptuous to say that Kiffin and Davis are on the outs, and that Ryan is being held on to either spite Kiffin, or because Ryan is just loyal to Al Davis? Like I said, it sure as heck isn’t because Ryan is a winning coach.
But of course, like you said, we don’t know why Al Davis does what he does.
*roll sound: “Leader of the pack” by the Shangri Las
March 7th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Alameda - Did you break the Walker story here first?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Don’t fall for it guys…we are not trading for Boldin. Now, if Yall’s Trippin said that, I might believe it! (I can’t believe I just said that.)
March 7th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Since tackling stationary targets teaches nothing…Maybe one of you Junior GM’s or Psuedo Head Coaches can tell us about an effective tackling drill that doesn’t risk injury to the players.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:23 am
OK Al’s a grubby old crazy pimp…what do we do to win this year?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Quagmire’d,
I would agree with you about the tackling thing, but if Al is going to keep drafting and brining in plays that can’t tackle then we should probably have a defensive coach that teaches those players how to tackle, lol.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:24 am
players, sorry.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Isn’t that what studying film is for…To see what players are good at/do well? If tackling isn’t one of them then what the f’ are they doing? Drafting for looks?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:26 am
The best tackling drill ever, “lovers lane”. We did it in high school. Talk about building toughness.
There were two pairs of guys. One pair consisted of a blocker and a ball handler. The other pair consisted of the destroyer and the tackler. The destroyer ties up the blocker and the tackler takes on the ball handler. Keep in mind that these four guys are working within a 5 foot wide lane. Tackling dummies are layed down on each side to create the lane. Our entire school would come out to practice on Thursday’s to watch this drill, that’s how competitive it is.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Our high school team ate pizza LOL
March 7th, 2008 at 11:30 am
yeah right….they’re going to risk injury to players in a lovers lane drill….get real
March 7th, 2008 at 11:31 am
I was asked to provide a tackling drill, not a tackling drill that risks injury
March 7th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Are we there yet??
March 7th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Inside The Bung Hole of the Raiders!
March 7th, 2008 at 11:32 am
We don’t run the lovers lane drill because Stu is a lousy destroyer
March 7th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Inside Al Davis’ sphincter?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Draft Beer - No tackling drill will work unless you have unpredictable moving targets. All of which will risk injury. It was said best by someone earlier, if you can’t tackle by now then you don’t belong. This goes back to my statement’s of us needing to draft Football Players and not Athletes.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Dakota -
Most of that venom was reserved for the Laker fan base in general, not specifically you. I am still a little pissed because the W’s looked like crap on Wednesday against the Boobcats. You are right, the W’s have a way of playing to their opponents skill level. If the team that they are playing is really good then they seem to step it up and match them. But if the team they are playing is not so good, the W’s have a way of playing down to their level.
Another road game tonight in Miami, lets hope that they can raise their level of play and not lower it to the level of the Heat.
No one answered my question, did the Lakers even make the playoffs last year?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Quagmire’d,
You would think so wouldn’t you? So if guys like Fabian and Stu could tackle on film, and now they can’t tackle in the NFL, well maybe someone needs to try and give them a refresher course in tackling once in a while? Just seems logical too me.
A good 40 time is only half the battle. I would take a guy with an average 40 that can make plays over a guy that has a great 40 and “potential” every day of the week. I think that is what NE does too; they look for football players, not super athletes that might be able to be trained into decent football players.
Now McFadden and Chris Long are both great athletes that also have proved themselves on the field. Al’s wet dream.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Stu couldn’t destroy a paper banner coming out of the tunnel.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Quagmire’d Says:
Isn’t that what studying film is for…To see what players are good at/do well?
—I remember Stu Schweigert on college film looking & hitting like Jack Tatum.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:35 am
read it again
Draft Beer Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Since tackling stationary targets teaches nothing…Maybe one of you Junior GM’s or Psuedo Head Coaches can tell us about an effective tackling drill that doesn’t risk injury to the players.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Please draft MCFadden and start him and bush in a two back set w/ russell,anyone of them can throw and pass and both russell and bush are good blockers for mcfadden because of thier size…..reinvent the way football is played, people will bow to us.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Who’s going to be our “Wolverine Back” then?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:37 am
throw and run*
March 7th, 2008 at 11:37 am
After they stop laughing.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Raidersraw..are you advocating a airial wishbone? HA HA HA
March 7th, 2008 at 11:40 am
I know that Dogg, no worries. All in good fun.
Yeah, they made the playoffs last year. As a matter of fact in their 59 year history they have been in the playoffs 55 times! Only missed in 2005, 1994, 1976 and 1958.
14 NBA Championships…
Wow, we Lakers fans are spoiled.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:40 am
I read it again and I’m with you. You’re asking a question that can’t be answered. If there’s such a drill I’d like to see it. If a guy has good change-of-direction technique but simply can not wrap up. The only thing you can do is ask him to wrap up a moving target. I don’t think any drill requiring that kind of movement is risk free. Interested in what everyone else has to say about your request as I’ve never seen a drill that meets your requirements.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:41 am
http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/07/panthers-shopping-peppers/
Perhaps we could trade LaMont Jordan for Peppers.
I think we should collect players with names like pepper, curry, and other spices =)
March 7th, 2008 at 11:42 am
With those players it would decimate, these type of players dont come around to often, talk about a young core of players built through the draft ha, mcfadden returning kicks as well, insane
March 7th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Hoist another banner in Bean-town the Celtics are back.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Throw and run!
HAh, isnt that the manual to a molotow cocktail?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:43 am
I see your point, Dakota…for players like that it makes sense. They should be put on display at the end of practice for all to see- how embarrassing….lol. No one likes to singled out. I agree with you on the “playmaker” vs. “potential” thing too.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Have a nice weekend all! (Except the fraud of course)
March 7th, 2008 at 11:44 am
LMN are you sure it wouldn’t offend any muslums???
March 7th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Celtics!?
no way, they got beat by barca…
Pun intended =)
March 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Why haven’t the Raiders ever pulled a reverse with Curry passing? Wasn’t he a star QB?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am
RaiderTW, Stu may have looked the part in college but the speed of the game is much faster at the next level…not to mention the size of the competitors and skill levels are tops.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Dakota…
Hi I guess, if i’m not the fraud =)
March 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am
No LMN thats standard basic training for the French and Danish Military…throw down your weapons and run.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:47 am
LMN - I don’t think we can afford him if we had to take on his bloated contract. We still need space for the draft.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:50 am
yea thats why noone ever throws with anyone other then their qb…..oh wait……stfu u guys are idiots on this board sometimes you have to think outside the box
March 7th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Dakota- Jerry Buss has won 8 championships in 29 years as the Lakers owner.
That’s mind blowing when you consider he’s won a title basically less than every 4 years.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Alameda Insider,
Tell you what. If the Boldin rumors are false (which they probably are) how about you never show your ugly mug on this board again.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Have a good weekend Dakota
See you at the Kum & Go
March 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am
I just thought of another great reason we signed Wilson.
I won’t have to listen to you animals who promoted the idea of moving Thomas Howard to safety anymore!
That’s why Al signed him! He reads the blog!
March 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Anyone else here think that Alameda Insider is one of Rob Ryan’s boy toys from Castro?
March 7th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Sean…he did indeed request that we kiss his ass actually……could be.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:54 am
When I go visit my family in Washington state I always bring a couple of Kum & Go lighters as they don’t believe it’s an actual convenience store, like it’s a gag gift.
When I first moved to Iowa I saw a Kum & Go and couldn’t stop laughing. I had the ask the clerk, “May I.”
March 7th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Draft Beer…
I wouldn’t joke if I was you, there is an arsenal of jokes about your army…
All wars you’ve been in alone you’ve lost, makes you think doesn’t it? furthermore how young is your nation? come again in 750 years time, then we’ll talk =) ohh thats not true you won wars against canada and mexico. Thats nice, talk about pixie wars =)
or what about you choose to fight a war when you own population are being crippled. Smart money spending there?…
I think I’ll stop here, but Kiddo, don’t throw stones when you live i glasshouse…
March 7th, 2008 at 11:57 am
LMN Hey man! We won the War of 1812 ha ha……..
March 7th, 2008 at 11:58 am
I O W A ???? LMAO idiots out wandering around
March 7th, 2008 at 11:59 am
LMN and nobody has ever been in a war with Canada ha ha…..
March 7th, 2008 at 11:59 am
tell us the wars your army won in the last 100 years without the help of the US … KIDDO
March 7th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
hmm Kum and Go? Sounds a lot like my sexlife
March 7th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
raidersraw Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 11:42 am
With those players it would decimate, these type of players dont come around to often, talk about a young core of players built through the draft ha, mcfadden returning kicks as well, insane
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is Sharapova a spice ???
March 7th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
your damn army is afraid of your own muslum population
You arrest your natural born citizens who print cartoons at the risk of upseting your cheap labor
March 7th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 11:41 am
http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/07/panthers-shopping-peppers/
Perhaps we could trade LaMont Jordan for Peppers.
I think we should collect players with names like pepper, curry, and other spices =)
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lemme try this again…
is Sharapova a spice???
March 7th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
I may not be the moderator, but like a few bloggers including myself stopped a stupid political conversation from escalating.
I see another one with LMN & Draft Beer. One must consider where most of these bloggers are here in the US and therefore are going to be pro US in any debate about military.
It can only get ugly so why continue when you can just avoid the talk when it’s a lose-lose situation for everyone?
Lose out on good Raiders/sports talk and bring politics (US military vs Danish) into the conversation which ruins everything because it can get heated and personal, really quick.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Hey Salisbury -
Why don’t you go take a nother picture of that little cock of yours with your camera phone and e-mail to everyone at ESPN. You are a complete moron. As for the rest of you, F you if you don’t believe me, I don’t really care one way or the other. I know I’m the man, thats all that matters.
Me and Madden Raider are the only real mf-ers on this blog anyway. The rest are just a bunch of moronic pretenders.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Alameda Insider’s favorite song…
IT’S RAININ’ MEN…HALLELULIAH IT’S RAININ’ MEN
March 7th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Draft ..come on. Don’t get into a pissing match about the U.S. military.
Our military and the use of force and how ever many people we can kill is not making us very popular in the world. A bunch of dudes with the gung ho attitude makes the United States look ridiculous in the rest of the world.
American values have gone the the tube, and the rigteous convictions that we thought we had were destroyed by the way that our government has lied to us and we bought it, and now hundreds of thousands of people are dead and our economy is going into the toilet. Maybe it’s time to focus on something else the U.S. can do to retain what’s left of it’s status and maintain some dignity after 8 years of Bush.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Hey DSM….MYOFB…if you don’t like it ….buzz off
March 7th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
FLPete…
I Would say she is SUGAR or Honey =)
March 7th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Oh here we go another coward that thinks that life is a popularity contest…..
March 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
CopenhagenFan…
1812 was against Canada
March 7th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Let’s get back to football….
I don’t want to engange in a geo-political conversation with you guys.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
hey copenhagen maybe football is a little too violent for your taste….find a water ballet blog
March 7th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
you couldn’t engage anyone in a geo political debate for long….you can barely comprehend football
March 7th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
DaftBeer…
Go find you toys then, go play
March 7th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Oh here we go another jerk-off that thinks life is a pissing contest…
March 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
# Draft Beer Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
you couldn’t engage anyone in a geo political debate for long….you can barely comprehend football
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and that comes from YOU!?
Muhahhahaha, pathetic.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
LMN nope..the war of 1812 took place primarily in Canada, but it was against the British. Now that I think of it, we had help from the French in that war, so it doesn’t count
March 7th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Draft no football is not too violent for me. I played the game. I do admit that I was too small to play NT in college so I played Lacrosse in college.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Guys…
I’ll join you later, this blog is at the moment on a level that only is a waste of time…See ya later
March 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Draft Beer- Being a Navy veteran and having lived overseas as a military brat, I believe CopenhagenFan is correct in his talk about how the world feels with regards to our military.
We may have the world’s best stockpile of weapons, aircraft, & naval equipment, but if you want to talk about a badass military, it’s Israel.
When it comes to pin-point airstrikes, both England and Israel are more on target than we are. Their instruction is much more rigid and their accuracy reflects their practice.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Draft > You have no idea about what my background is and what my educational level is.
I’m pretty sure that your capacity to debate any subject with me is not sufficient to make me sweat at any level.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Alameda insider is a Troll
March 7th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
CopenhagenFan…
Okay fair enough, in our schoolbooks is it called war against Canada…Because Canada was a part of british empire, but USA didn’t attack other british possessions, ships and stuff in international waters…
March 7th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
You should all go read this article at the link below, and then join together against a writer who frequently uses his column to spew anti-Raider rhetoric with very little in the way of fact or objectivity. Today, he even decided to use an off-the-record “quote” from a man who was on his deathbed (and is since deceased.) How ethical!
But, you probably won’t cuz you’re all busy calling each other trolls and coming up with “hilarious” ways to insult each other.
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080307/WIRE/803070344/1010/SPORT01
March 7th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
LMN: Do to our great location and inability to attack our nation due to significant distance of water on both sides, we’ve had the luxury of not having to fight an individual country.
Unlike in Europe where every country has been in a war due to close proximity.
No reason to get into a pissing contest though as we can argue forever.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
LMN the Americans didn’t really attack anybody in the War of 1812 (also known as the 7 years War). It was the British trying to get payback and trying to fight Napoleon and hit him where he was weak (in Canada). They he sold Louisiana to the U.S. because he didn’t want any more b.s. in the Americas.
The War culminated in New Orleans in the Battle of New Orleans which was actually fought 2 weeks after the official end of the war because there were no method of quick communication.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Alameda Insider:
http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/troll.jpg
March 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Me and Madden Raider are the only real mf-ers on this blog anyway. The rest are just a bunch of moronic pretenders.
—-You can be frank & you can be earnest but usually you’re just d!ck.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Draft Queer -
STFU you don’t know jack. The Marines are only good for one thing, dying first. The Marines are the canary in the mine shaft. Only good for dying! Semper Die!
LMN -
Your country is only good for one thing, donuts! Thanks for the worldy contribution of cinnamon rolls!
March 7th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
LMN…jeg må sige, at jeg er glad for, at jeg ikke deler de meget ignorante holdninger af mange af mine eks. landsmænd. Men nu er de fleste her nok fra et lavt socialt lag….sådan er det når der er noget med sport, at gøre. Man må leve med kødhoveder i dette miljø.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Alameda…hey dude..what about Skype, Mærsk, B & O stereos, etc.
Denmark is one of the only allies the U.S. has left. All of the other countries except for the UK have bailed out.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Salibury -
I found an old video on You Tube from your days with the Vikings as a back up QB. My apologies btw, you actually had some skills back in the day…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2jG8kfPS-I&feature=related
March 7th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Alameda Insider will always be loyal to his first love…..
ROB RYAN
March 7th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Alameda…you would love Denmark…any red blooded American that has actually been to this country would only see it as a “mecca” for hot chicks, legal prostitution, free health care, free education, social-ecconomic equality for all races and the list goes on. Many of the values of the American constitution are actually put into action here.
You know nothing dude
March 7th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Just got off the phone with my inside source. The Boldin deal is all but a done deal, just a physical and some signatures on the dotted line.
You guys all better bow down and worship me when this news becomes official! You heard it here first…
March 7th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
One can be for America and criticize it, to whomever made the point above that most people here are Americans, so that therefore they’re going to support America. I do support America, which is why I want us out of Iraq, and why I believe we never should have been there. It’s also why I don’t want to see any Republican remotely connected to the Nixon/Reagan/Bush tree (oil tree…) in charge of this country, ever again. Ron Paul is the only Republican I would ever consider voting for. McCain is a joke. Unfortunately, we’re stuck between a candidate that, while being charismatic, really doesn’t talk much about his plans, and a woman who thinks that because she’s a woman she’s entitled to the white house. Lesser of two evils. That’s how it works.
Frankly, I’m for Obama. I didn’t care too much for Hillary’s “3am” ad. Pretty low, and reeked of that Bush style; Labeling your opponent as being weak and impotent. And, as if she’s really more experienced….
7 years in the Senate, doing nothing but laying over for BushCo. Just keep Billy Boy out of trouble, Hill. I think Obama’s fit for the job.
Alameda, thanks for the props, but I actually think that you’re the only real “mf’er” here. I just give opinion. You seem to know what’s going on…at least with everything Raiders.
Dakota, I do hope that you have a nice weekend, on the other hand.
Sincerly,
“the fraud”. LOL.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Chris Clemmons’ replacement?
Jeremy Geathers UNLV
apparently the raiders showed some interest during his pro-day.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
But the attitude that American is better than everything in the world (mostly stated by people who have never ever really been to any other countries) is what makes being an American a dangerous thing in these times.
Think it over.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Alameda…that’s why I switched to General Snus baby!
March 7th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
once in a while I would “freshen” my breath with a little pinch of Skoal.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Alameda ….I know you’re a loser that craves attention….even that of other losers who waste their time in this blog.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
A defense for keeping Ryan
A while back I gave a coherant reason (i.e. not one that involves AD pimping
) why we might keep Ryan this year.
1. Ryan is in the last year of his contract and we do not want to pay him for nothing if we fire him.
2. The best upcoming cover 2 coach who has been studying under Pa Kiffin is in the last year of his contract and won’t be available till next year.
3. Why bring a guy in for one year if the guy you really want is not available.
This also gives another year for AD to evaluate Kiffin to see if he is the real deal before handing over the keys to the defense.
Having said all this I disagree with the decision but I can understand this logic and all the facts given above are true. There is some reading between the lines but it is nothing compared to the speculation regarding Kiffin.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
It’s all about the Kodiak baby!
March 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
If the Boldin rumors are true, you will get some respect.
Until then, you seem very troll-like.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I have some inside information - Inside Alameda is Kool Kells love child after his 8th marriage….
March 7th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
1960AutumWind- thanks for that post. That makes sense to me.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Cope
Which one? The one about Ryan or the one about Kool Kells love child ? LOL
March 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I say Alameda Insider is Rob Ryan’s “Boy Toy”.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
DSM..
So true, I just got a bit pissed, I made a joke about the throw and run, that is the instruction for a molotov cocktail… I found it pretty funny myself =)
But then suddenly my country and my army was under attack by Daft beer(pun intended). I’ll stop my part of the pissing contest now, but its pretty annoying when people talk about something they don’t know squad about… Like i apparently dont know enough about the 1812 war - or I cant remember enough…
March 7th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
1960AutumWind both ha ha
March 7th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
“I’ll stop my part of the pissing contest now, but its pretty annoying when people talk about something they don’t know squad about”
That sentence reminds me of when you talk about football!
March 7th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
CopenhagenFan…
ja, jeg ved godt at det ikke er de klogeste vi har samlet på denne blog. Jeg er lykkelig for at ha sådan een som dig. Når min argumentation eller engelske kunnen ikke holder er det rart med en rigtig amerikaner.
Tak
March 7th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
One Troll two personallities.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
LMN…der er nok kun 20% af befolkningen som kan tænke logisk ha ha.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
LMN, it’s not “your” army. It’s mine, Draft Beers, Copenhagen, Inside Alameda, Dakota, Marley, Oakglenn, Jerry McDonald, Al Davis, Amy Trask, William Hung, Ron Jeremy, Toby Keith, Kanye West, and every other American’s army. We all pay taxes and we’re all American citizens. And, we all elect the commander in chief of this army.
Having more of a nationalist view of this country and it’s place in the world does not make the United States Military more yours than anyone else’s. Our military is as much Michael Moore’s as it is yours.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Alameda insider….
yeah yeah, i’m foreign and don’t know football. Heard it before. But it doesn’t bite me, I know football and I can still learn more. thats why I’m here. But I never learned anything form you, hmm….
I’m gonna watch 1990 week 16 Dec 22, Oak@Min now… A fantastic game =)
March 7th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
MaddenRaider….
When I talked about my army, I was referring to the army that I worked for, that I served for and the lone allied you got…
thats why I got pissed…
well now im outta here
March 7th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
lekker pik?
March 7th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
ive only been on here for 2 weeks are there really insiders on this board who know things before many other do?and who are they?
March 7th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Eazy E,
Here’s a hint… Alameda Insider is not an actual insider
March 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Maddenraider…
i am amazed…
i’m agreeing with just about everything you have written in the past hour…
now…
i’m going to have to reconsider everything i have ever believed…
March 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
The only melt down that has ever happend was MaddenRaider 2 days ago!
March 7th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Chernobyl and Three Mile Island Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
The only melt down that has ever happend was MaddenRaider 2 days ago!
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
oakglenn ???
is that you ???
March 7th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
reguarding bill walshes comment on coaches out of shape shouldnt coach athletes; have you seen bill the tuna parcells he’s no jack la lane
March 7th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Eazy E
There are outsiders that pretend to be insiders and I am coming to believe there are insiders that play along on the blog but they tend to not appeal to their insider status all the time. Some of them even will try to detour us away by saying I am just line you I really don’t have anything etc… But if a really nasty rumor comes out someone they in the past have been able to confirm or deny. I am not going to name names here but if you stick around it becomes fairly obvious.
Another thing there is are outsiders that have been Raider fans for long periods of time and kind of get to know the MO of the Raiders and the press around the Raiders and like to speculate on their next moves. With the last few seasons we have had - it is kind of fun to think about the future becasue the past has been pretty bad.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Shhh MaddenRaider!
The secret might get out; California’s economy is the US economy, they cant give us back.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Florida Pete, same here, now I will spend the weekend reconsidering my paradigm. Whoooo…
March 7th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
I would be curious if there are any actual “Insiders” that frequent this blog.
Is the Raiders organization so out of touch with reality that they don’t know or care what outsiders think or say?
Or, as the Javon Walker contract rebuttal may suggest, they actually do care how tarnished their image and reputation has become..and may observe what the public is thinking here at the blog.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Vic Carucci’s mock draft: Top 5
No. Team Player Pos. College
1 Dolphins Chris Long DE Virginia
Carucci’s take: It wouldn’t be a shock to see the Dolphins go with a quarterback.
2 Rams Jake Long OT Michigan
Carucci’s take: Long could very well be this year’s Joe Thomas, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie.
3 Falcons Matt Ryan QB Boston College
Carucci’s take: This allows the organization to hit the reset button on what has been a disaster at the position.
4 Raiders Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
Carucci’s take: The Raiders will need to be satisfied that there are no lingering problems with Dorsey’s tibia stress fracture.
5 Chiefs Aqib Talib CB Kansas
Carucci’s take: Chiefs might have interest in Ryan but there’s a glaring need at cornerback and Talib can have an immediate impact.
» Complete first-round mock draft
*****
Yet another draft prognosticator’s predictions…I happen to agree with Carucci’s pick for us, but I would also add Ellis as a possibility…
Interesting deviation from the usual Raider football talk; geo-political history…hmmm…the Pax Americana during the 20th century is simply yet another world power exercising its might and cultural hegemony…I suppose that is what makes the current state of affairs so dynamic…all of the world’s superpowers throughout world history have eventually found the limits of their power and influence…the debate currently simply features the Americans and the limits on their power…
most interesting…with the US being the only remaining superpower, and the only country to have used nuclear weapons, it is interesting to note that there are still limits on its power and influence…
i suppose that would suggest the power of the human spirit…despite their obvious disadvantages against history’s most powerful military, insurgent movements still exist and continue…
the more things change, the more they stay the same…
March 7th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Vernon Gholston…
we want Vernon!!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
i know that yalls trippin called out the walker signing and he ws right on the money with that one.So i sense he’s a valuable source.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Eazy E, 1960AutumWind is correct in his explaination but there are trolls who don’t really like the Raiders & they bash Al Davis in EVERY post & get other posters to stop talking football. They hijack the conversation and the interesting thing is it’s two personalities occupying the same hemisphere of the brain. There are known. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns…wait a minute, that didn’t make sense when Rumsfeld said it. Any way you will know these(this) troll by the subject matter I spoke of.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
My favourite mock is WalterFootball.com.
Their latest has us taking McFadden, Baker and, most interestingly, Jason Jones, DE, Eastern Michigan in the 4th:
http://walterfootball.com/draft2008.php
Well worth a look.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Raider TW
Agreed… Eazy Look at today for instance, this is really not the place to talk Geopolitics. I do some of this at regional scale in my day job and I come here to escape not to do more of it with people not holding any cards….
Another symptom: When people try to get to far inside the motives/mental stability of Al Davis without giving any reasoning for it and then just bash him. I understand the frustration with some of his decisions but no one who has been with him recently have indicated that his mental faculities are anything but extremely strong.
I like the Raiders because I have been a fan litterally since I can remember which is around 1965 or so. Watching them play brings back memories of my childhood and it is something I share with my sons. One of my sons actually plays Guard on his HS football team and they won state this year. He is always wearing Raider stuff and getting crap for it but since he is bigger than everyone else he just smiles… Sometimes we get so hung up on the agst of everything we forget why we even care about this stuff…
March 7th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
More on Jason Jones:
Jason Jones - DE, Eastern Michigan (6′5″, 272 lbs.)
Jones originally played tight end when he first came to Eastern Michigan (who was his only football scholarship offer, by the way) weighing in at just 219 pounds. Four years later, Jones has gained over 50 pounds of pure muscle while still maintaining the incredible athleticism which he originally came to EMU with. That athleticism and quick initial burst, or his “get off” as Jones likes to call it, is what has made him into one of the top defensive line prospects in this year’s class. Much of his career was spent at the defensive tackle position, but he definitely projects as more of a defensive end in the pros due to his quickness off the line.
Throughout his career at Eastern Michigan, Jason Jones has steadily been improving and making people take notice. Each year, he has improved on his tackles and finished this past season with a career-high 70 tackles to go with 19.5 TFL. His 19.5 TFL were 7th best in the entire NCAA and were 1st in the MAC conference. Jones has only been playing organized football for six years now and it is obvious that he still has a lot of upside. Jones had arguably his best game against the Michigan Wolverines when he accounted for 6 tackles (3.5 TFL) and blocked an extra point attempt which was returned for a defensive PAT.
Jones’ main strengths are his ferocious competitive edge, strength, athleticism, and premier intangibles. At the next level, he will have to improve his pass rushing technique, which he readily admits, because right now he relies mostly on his pure strength. However, with his intelligence and work ethic Jones should have no problem getting even better and still has a lot of potential. This guy is the definition of the word “sleeper”. He’ll turn some heads in the coming months.
This kid is worth watching if he slips into the 4th Round. He is forecast to go late 3rd.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
We better not pick Jason Jones in the 4th, that would be useless. Jerome Simpson WR in the 4th, unless Red Bryant is still there.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Takeo Spikes?
March 7th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Scottish
Interesting post but I still can’t see us going McFad when everything is pointing towards another direction in that we have Fargus, Bush and Rhodes all lined up. Our big need as of this moment are DE or DT (whichever Kelly is not playing). There is no doubt a good DT or DE will be there a #4. I am still hoping that Dallas has some real desire to move up and give us some picks because I do not think the talent level difference between who is in the 4th spot and who is in the 22nd spot is that great unless McFad is still on the board and that is not a need position for us.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Posted yesterday about moving up,Alot of you fellow raider fans share the same idea.Did a little research and this is what I came up with.Years 2000-2007 The #22 pick and the #28 pick both of Dallas 1st rounders.
2000 Chris Mcintosh O-Tackle Seahawks,Rob Morris LB Colts.
2001 Will Allen DB Giants,Derrick Gibson DB Raiders
2002 Bryan Thomas DE Jets,Jeramy Stevens TE Seahawks
2003 Rex Grossman QB Bears.Andre Woolfolk DB Titans.
2004 JP Losman,QB Bills,Chris Gamble DB Panthers.
2005 Mark Clayton WR Ravens,Luis Castillo DT Chargers.
2006 Manny Lawson Lb 49ers,Marcedes Lewis TE Jags.
2007 Brady Quinn QB Browns,Joe Staley OT 49ers.
As you can see #22 and #28 are very pedestrian.There are many great players in the later rounds but I am going to re-visit my thoughts and break down the later picks 20-32 to see if there is really a competative advantage by moving down..
Desert Raider 24,How does that harmonica sound.
Apoligies to Sergio Leone But I Will re-phrase the best line in Once Upon A Time In The West”The Raiders will be a great team someday…………yea someday.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
SDDD,
Bryant will be long gone by the 4th.
Would you really take Simpson over Mario Urruttia,
Marcus Monk, Keenan Burton and Oakland’s own Davone Bess?
I like Urruttia size and potential, but bringing Bess home could be a smart move. Simpson? No, thanks.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
1960AutumnWind–would love to talk geopolitics with you…agreed, this may not be the best forum for it, but really–until a FA is signed or until the draft starts–how many times can we go over and over what all of us believe what our team needs?
ScottishRaider–McFadden? Really? Still? After the signing of BOTH Fargas and Rhodes, there are STILL prognosticators saying we’ll draft McFadden? I suppose it is possible; the team is owned by Al Davis, after all…but still…
March 7th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
There’s an adage in business that we promote someone until they become incompotent. Ryan was a firey LB coach who has become a poor DC. Of course, Al recruited him from the Patriots D and promptly Had him run the same old Raiders D.
Ryan’s dad was a great DC who got promoted to pathetic head coach. Guess Rob just was a little short.
Of course if Ryan is successful running a different D after leaving Oakland, like Shannigans, we will see again it is Al’s medling - not the coaching.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Should we spend a ton of money on Takeo Spikes as well?
March 7th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
1960,
I have always been wary of taking McFadden. He is potentially a star, but we have much greater needs (LT, DT, DE, MLB).
What I like about the walterfootball mock is that they see the whole draft. And if we get very sensible in Round 2, 4 and 6, then maybe we can take a bigger risk in the 1st.
Given Al’s ‘rebel’ mentality, he will want to shock and gamble. Just to prove everybody wrong. Unless he knows that he’s going to get some interesting phone calls straight after the Falcons pick?
At least most mocks are agreed that we will get a shot at Sam Baker at No35. He would be a great fit in Cable’s system.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Scottish,
Agreed, Bryant will be gone, but I can still hope.
I like all of the guys you listed, I am thinking a few will be there in the 6th as well. Dont sleep on Jerome Simpson though, he is gonna be the real deal.
Later Round DE pick Adamm “the machine” Oliver this guy was born to be a Raider.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Desert
You are probably right. The problem with discussing Geopolitics though is for people really involved a miscalculation can cause food, water or energy shortages if you get something wrong among many other problems. If you are a company it can make or break you. In essesnse you really can not tolerate dumb ideas or half baked opinions. You really have to vet and refine them and work them through. In football you just have a 4-12 season and have to endure some ugly plays.
About the comment on going through FA and Draft picks over and over… My wife at times is about to kick me out of the house because I cut over to this blog and ignore other things I should be doing on my day off or on sick days or during breaks etc… She does not like this hobby!
But if this is my worst habit I think I am doing ok….
March 7th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I’d take Takeo Spikes over Danny Clark any day!!
March 7th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Hell Yeah! Takeo is a beast!
March 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Once upon a time…thanks again for the reference…I still have a hard time seeing Henry Fonda (HENRY FONDA?!?) being as cold blooded as Javier Bardem in “No Country for Old Men…”
So some of us propose trading down to stockpile picks…hmmm…would love to see what the Nation thinks we could get if we traded down…WRs? LBs? OTs?
March 7th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
it take’s alot of hard work to be at the bottom of the NFL year after year and we deserve to be rewarded for our outstanding sacrifice’s. With that said, our reward should be a shinning star like mcfadden who cares if it’s defense that we really need. We want guys we can bragg about right, right!
March 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Scottish
You are right about AD… He sometimes likes to do something unconventional but this year the conventional wisdom is we take McFad on many of the mocks. After watching the Raiders operate last year I think we may be doing a lot of manuevering on draft day. For instance, if we take McFad we just made Rhodes contract marketable and could trade him and Fargas for that matter. I don’t think we would get much for Bush because of the question marks. You can say the same about if we take a DE at 4. Instead of assuming were set with Burgess and the new guy we may trade Burgess for a pick. The last few years we have been like that. I remember how we got back into the first round the year we traded for Moss and also this last year how we dropped back a little and picked up a 4th rounder and traded for McCown and Williams.
I think if we can not trade out of that pick we are probably going with someone like Ellis or Gholston. If someone like Long drops he will be a Raider. Once we make that move it creates a shift that will open us up for trades. Thats why there will probably be a lot of action on draft day.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Sith,
I like Spikes, but he might be over-the-hill. Just like Darius last seasons..
We should be looking at LBs who have never really had a chance to start. Players like:
1) Rocky Boiman (Colts)
2) Brandon Chillar (Rams)
3) Chaun Thompson (Browns)
These three were all drafted in the first four rounds, but have never had a real opportunity. Some very good players get lost in rosters.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Our LB’s should be:
Morrison, Howard and anybody but Sam Williams.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
1960…too funny…but seeing that it is only the first week of March, I would have to agree with your wife…LOL BUT…I would also have to agree with you, in that you COULD be doing other (and consequently, more self-destructive) habits–and being out here in Vegas, there’s a TON of them…
I would also chime in on Takeo Spikes…get him…but only if the money is right…we’ve already commited a dump truck full of money to Kelly and Walker…otherwise, let’s resign Danny Clark…
March 7th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
1960,
I totally agree. This is a very volatile draft - because there is no obvious No1 pick and because Parcels is notoriously unpredictable.
I can’t see Miami trading down, but they could take Ryan or Jake Long or Chris Long or Glenn Dorsey….
I have a sneaking feeling that Tuna will take Gholston because he reminds him of a young Laurence Taylor.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Scottish…
I’ve taking a lot of heat for suggesting Brandon Chillar. Packers wil probably sign him, but I would love him. I’ve liked this kid since the draft =)
This game is Wild, man I would love to see us play like that again =)
March 7th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
15 min till history of the oakland raiders on nfl network! finally some quality tv.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Sam Williams career stats….UTTERLY PATHETIC.
Obviously he is another player on the RR Scholarship:
http://www.nfl.com/players/samwilliams/profile?id=WIL514940
March 7th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
LMN,
I also think Chillar is still untapped potential and this is the sort of player we should be fighting for.
I am really worried about the depth of our LB corps. I have always wanted to send Morrison back out to the strong-side, but I am also worried what would happen if we lost Morrison or Howard to injury. We need more strength and more depth.
Chillar would be great. Boiman would be a cheaper alternative - he was a 4th round pick out of Notre Dame, and they usually develop decent LBs.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
It’s amazing the amount of money that players like Sam Williams, Stu Schwag, Tyler Brayton, Philip Buchanan and Derrick Gibson stole from this franchise.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
totally agree!
March 7th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Sean…
Stole? nah, we gave it away! If we drafted better, then they would have got their proper 4th round paychecks =)
March 7th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Easy E - Yalls Trippin is the KING.
Yalls is only inside man I trust.
Long Live Yalls.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
They will be airing the Packers-Raiders game tonight where Favre torched the defense in 2003.
A first hand look at some of our colassal draft busts in action: Buchanan & Gibson.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
It’s On!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Rumours are circulating that JaMarcus Russell’s weight just topped 300lbs. Without the bling.
Brady Quinn is vain, shallow and can’t beat out Derek Anderson….but at least he seems reasonably professional.
Russell’s attitude is such a worry.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Scottish: what rumors? Banks includes it in his thumbs down bashing of the Raiders’ Free agency moves so far, suggesting we might not have a qb for 08. It would be easy enough for any real reporter to get a picture of the guy.
so much of all these rumors just drive me insane, and then they get repeated.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
I agree with you Scottish on JR
March 7th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
What JR doesn’t have a weight problem?
March 7th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
If that’s true about Russell weight, it’s further evidence that this organization is out of control.
Your $60 Million QB needs to be training at the facility…not stuffing his face with Popeye’s Fried Chicken in N’Awlins.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Scottish
If JR does not work out it is going to set back this franchise even more than it already is. I really wished we did not take him but we did and now all we can do is hope he works out. What was the source of the Rumor - Alameda Insider? Just kidding LOL…
March 7th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
You know what they say, repeat it enough and it becomes fact.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I just hope he is keeping up on practice, wasn’t he playing with high schoolers last preseason?
March 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
1960AutumWind Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Scottish
If JR does not work out it is going to set back this franchise even more than it already is. I really wished we did not take him but we did and now all we can do is hope he works out. What was the source of the Rumor - Alameda Insider? Just kidding LOL…
Shawnraiders81:
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SAYS JaMarcus is over 300lbs does not mean that is the truth.
JaMarcus was the best thing this franchise had done in a very long time, pure beast of a Man.
I can say all day long there is no God…. but it does not change the fact that there is!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
I really don’t concern myself with athletes gaining weight over the off season. Athelete’s bodies are different from the average person. It’s alot easier for them to get back into shape & quicker than the average person. So I wouldn’t be too concerned.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
JaMarcus built a new Home in the offseason. Here is a picture:
http://www.99w.com/evilsam/ff/popeyes.jpg
March 7th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Im sad that KAdy Malloy was voted off last night. She was by far the hottest idol
March 7th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Shawn
I did not think that rumor is true but I still am concerned that we are building our whole offense around a Junior QB that I think only started something like 16 games in college. This is water under the bridge but history is not kind to Junior QBs drafted really high coming out early (aka Ryan Leaf). Having said this I was really encouraged at the San Diego game and am hopeful that Kiffins bring him along slow strategy works. I am hoping I was wrong about Russell. I wanted to trade down and get AP but apparently there was no one that wanted to trade up for CJ or Russell according to Kiffin after the draft. I sure hope Kiffin begins to talk again!
March 7th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
I have to wait until he plays before I annoit him
March 7th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
too many high draft picks go bust especially QB’s
March 7th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
shit…I cant believe I missed most of this show…my TV is usually on NFL network most days I am home…just so I can hear any news that may pop on between shows…unbelievable..
Hopefully they will have it available on their website…I think I saw it last year anyway…
Jamarcus Russell better be working out like a beast and not getting his weight up to a 300 lb D Lineman…that was the one big knock on him and still remians a concern…
March 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
I can’t recall, did Chad Johnson get traded yet?
March 7th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
In regards to the mute coach Kiffin. I find it strange (maybe comforting) that all the new free agents have yet to speak to the media regarding signing with the Raiders. It’s possible that there is nothing to the Davis VS Kiffin rumor. Maybe the Raiders want all personnel to stay away from making comments to the media.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
JaMarcus Russell has a very special, some might say ‘god given’ talent. He will never bust for lack of ability - just play the tape of the TD throw to Porter. He might bust because he doesn’t have the will-power to stay focused or the determination to make the best of his talent.
We need to surround him with good advisors and strong mentors. That is why I would be looking to hire a good-character veteran QB to replace McCown and DC. Someone like Mark Brunnell, Trent Green or even Tim ‘Mr Media’ Hasselbeck.
I would also draft a QB in the 6th or 7th, just to give JR some company and competition. Someone like his old LSU buddy Matt Flynn.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Sean Sailsbury - With all due respect, you seem a little negative today.
What’s your problem?
March 7th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
beating the Steelers in the ’70s to just get to the SB was no easy freakin’ task…if Al Davis could get it done then…he can surely get it done now…I predict we get another SB victory in 2010.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
JR showed up to the combine overweight. He quickly lost it for his pro day workout. So even if he did gain some weight, he should have no problem getting back in shape.
Keep in mind gentlemen, that we are talking about phenomenal athletes with the best traininers in the world.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Salisbury you are a complete MORON!
here’s a pic of Sean Salisbury:
http://theimaginaryworld.com/rnn33.jpg
March 7th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Anyone know if they will have any compensatory picks this year?
March 7th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
The Point is JaMarcus will NEVER be a small man, it’s just not going to happen.
He is built to carry 250+
If he was skinny and 6′6 he would look like the guy a stick.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
This is great..all the conspiracy theorists should be proud…but having to relive the moments that the Raiders have been robbed by BS officiating or just plain old ripped off is painful. How many SBs would the Raiders have, if not for the Shams perpetrated against Al Davis’ “Team o’ The Decades “.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
he would look like Manute Bull the old center for the Bulls
March 7th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
True to that Shawn. Besides, you cant have a name like “Jamarcuss” if you are thin….you just cant.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
AT least TWO
March 7th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Nah my son’s 6′5″ 240, he doesn’t look like a stick
March 7th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Hobs Gnarly Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Nah my son’s 6′5″ 240, he doesn’t look like a stick
I’m 6′4 225 and im not a stick, but I do not play pro football either where 300lbs men run 4.5 40’s either
March 7th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Shawn are you sure? lol
March 7th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
c’mon someone has got to know about compensatory draft picks, anyone?
March 7th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
you guys are right…Russell…has the best trainers…but self discipline and better eating would be a much better option…he would be much quicker and stronger with a six pack instead of a spare tire !!!
He could have probably thrown it 90 yards down the field on his pro day if he had worked a little harder once his final LSU season ended !!!
March 7th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
sure of what…..?
that i’m 6′4 225?
or that 300lbs men run 4.5 40’s?
It’s a good thing JaMarcus is 6′6 260lbs he can take a good hit froma big DT.
When your 6′6 200lbs your a tall skinny guy that will get cut in half buy guys like Albert Hansworth
March 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Yup.Julius Peppers is 6′ 7” 280 & runs a freaking 4.4! Imagine a dude who outweighs you can still kick your ass in a foot race! Even the sucky players are physical speceimens.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
My friend got drafted by the Redskins and….
320lbs
4.8 40.
Got cut in training camp…..
that should say something.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Hobs,
Are you asking if we know if the Raiders will get some comp picks, or if we know what comp picks are?
March 7th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Hobs -
A team is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks if it is determined that they lost more or better players than they were able to acquire during the previous year’s free agency period. The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents (maximum of four).
The Raiders will probably get at least one pick when it is all said and done. I don’t know what round the picks come from, most likely the 7th. Thats something Oakglenn would know.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
nah, forget it Shawn I was just trying to ask you if you were sure you didn’t look like a stick, lol
Can we get some of these 300lb 4.5 guys on our team?
March 7th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Damn your probably right, Al Davis loves 7th rounders too
March 7th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
HOBS
I been asking all week and still havent heard but I believe if you look at how many FAs we lost in ‘07 and compare them to our losses in FA this year…I think we are gonna get a 3rd or 4th rounder more than likely…although I believe it is also based on playing time seen by those lost FAs and their draft status…like for instance…if we lost a bunch of undrafted FAs thsi year…the result would be ZERO…compensatory picks…??? While had we lost several 1st or 2nd rounders that were starters…we would get a reasonably high…3rd or 4th round pick.
Does that make since at all ???
It is a tricky deal..thats why no one really knows the answer or is willing to explain it anyway…
I asked our dear Jerry to explain it and still have no answer….
March 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
hobs ok it’s more like 4.6 - 5.0 40’s these big fat DT’s can run nowadays.
That Trevor Laws guy looks good in round #2…..
March 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Shawn,
Your example of your friend being cut just goes to show what kind of animal you have to be to even play at the pro level. Does not matter what size you are. Remember the hit Reggie Bush took in the playoffs against the Eagles? Bush is about 5′10” maybe an even 200lb & he just got whacked! But he was still able to play.
No offense to you Shawn being 6′ 4” 225, but that hit probably would have killed you.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Knowing how the NFL treats the Raiders it will probably be the Mr. Irrellevant pick, last pick of the draft.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
memo.
I was knocked out my first play in highschool football from this guy i’m talking about
March 7th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Hell yeah, I’ve been saying 1. Gholston 2. Laws 4. Goff LB or Franklin WR or both if they get any decent compensatory picks
March 7th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
4 any1 that missed JAVON WALKER interview last night - here goes again - He say the KNEE IS DOIN PERFECTLY FINE
http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=39697@kcnc.dayport.com
March 7th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Al loves the mr. irrelevent pick, his chance to find the ultimate diamond in the rough
March 7th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Come on guys; we all saw the video of JR throwing from one knee. ESPN played it ad nauseum; the kid threw the ball FIFTY YARDS FROM ONE KNEE. The arm is there; Scottish is right–it’s the kids DESIRE TO SUCCEED that is the big question. I could care less if he’s 300+ pounds; if the kid can move the chains, score TDs, and WIN GAMES, then that’s all that matters…
March 7th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
MCFADDEN JUST SAID IF HE HAD TO CHOOSE HE WOULD BE A COWBOY - I HOPE AL IS TALKING TO JJ AND WORKING IT OUT
March 7th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
any1 that missed JAVON WALKER interview last night - here goes again - He say the KNEE IS DOIN PERFECTLY FINE
http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=39697@kcnc.dayport.com
March 7th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
In high school I was about 5′5” 125..& I played FS. Lets just say I didn’t lead my team in tackles. But it just amazes me how the smallest percentage of athletes can play at this level. I’ve been around guys who I thought were beasts, but who will never be able to even get a splinter on the bench in the pro level.
It’s crazy how baseball pays its players more than a NFL player
March 7th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
My son was at 270lbs, then in the second game of the season, he had his own teammate thrown into him by a RB from the other team, fractured both tib/fib and required a nail and screws much like our friend Woodson did. Now he looks better at 240
March 7th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
YOu don’t have to be ripped to play QB. I think Tom Brady is the only starting QB with a 6 pack, & the only reason why he has one is because he won’t get on the cover of GQ without a six pack
March 7th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
D-HALL WORKING ON A TRADE WITH RAIDERS
March 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
D-HALL WORKING ON A TRADE WITH RAIDERS PER ESPN MICHAEL SMITH
March 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
I would take him instead of FW
March 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Baseball is also a sport that you can play well into your forties…
March 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
even trade?
March 7th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Maybe the Godfather is serious about winning again? We will see, if he is, I will kiss the ring.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
So McFadden wants to be a Cowboy? Big deal…we don’t need him anyway…
March 7th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
They didn’t say who the Raiders were giving up with that trade
March 7th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
then he’d take me out back and shoot me, hehehe
March 7th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
I think a straight up trade for D-Hall & Fabian is fair. Maybe Fabian & a conditional future pick. But D-Hall has some charecter flaws as well
March 7th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
D-Hall for fabian any day of the week.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
So does FW, at least his Gf thinks so
March 7th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
What do you think if we Trade Fabion and a 4th or 5th for D-Hall
March 7th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
No we don’t have the picks an even trade
March 7th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Maybe DeAngelo should take a swing at whoever the hell is their coach.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Funny how all these old timers talk about “camaraderie” is that code for we are calling “chemistry” since Al Davis doesn’t believe in it…
I think Al Davis just believes that you dont need it to win an SB…but all great teams develop it over time…whether or not you need it…well Al Davis has been trying to prove otherwise for years…and I think he has changed his tune…but I will wait and see what happens the next few years with Jamarcus Russells development. Getting him more than one top receiver would spur his growth tremendously…as well as him dedicating serious time to the film room….we will see this year and next, just how deep his “commitment to excellence” is.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
throw in stu
March 7th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
I agree. Maybe a future conditional draft pick. But D-Hall should come cheap giving the way he reacted towards his coach on tv.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Receivers in the draft we need to get either Doucett or Nelson. Trevor Laws needs to be drafted by us as well.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
well the great Raider teams in the seventies sure knew how to have fun, that’s chemistry isn’t it?
March 7th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Whoever posted the link to M.Bush highlights earlier thank you never really seen him play before. For such a big back he has amazing burst.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Does anybody have any word on what is going on with B.Johnson? I heard he liked it in Buffalo the other day but haven’t heard anything since in the last few days.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
If we can get D-Hall…..
#1) Gholston/Long.
#2) Laws.
#4) Nelson.
rest of the draft WR’s/LT…
March 7th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
funny
even Mayock is saying that Al Davis takes either Gholston or DMac….I guess thats it folks…one way or another we are gonna have to live with whatever the real pick turns out to be…and hope…it all works out…either way it is an upgrade…but where we need an upgrade most is defense…even Al Davis can’t deny this.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
I might be alone on this, but Im getting a lil annoyed talking about the Raiders of the past. I wasn’t even born when they were “The Team of the Decade”.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Its snowing like crazy here.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Hobs Gnarly Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
throw in stu
I would take as well Stu & Fabion,for D-Hall,then we have 2 shut down D/B’s just like with Hayes & Haynes
March 7th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Hall Asomugha and Routt as our corners - Thats pretty shut down if you ask me
March 7th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
where iz the article saying hall is working on a trade with the raiders???????????
March 7th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Hobs
I agree with you…building some camaraderie or “chemistry is gonna be key the next few years…and of course having fun..on and off the field !!!
Guess thats where Pacman would come in handy in Oakland…he can bring the whoopass at CB and the strippers for the hot tub party that follows the home games !!!!
YO BABY YO BABY YO
March 7th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
If Al trades our 4th picks for Dallas’s 22nd and 28th 1rst rounders - D jackson in the slot and who else do youll see?
March 7th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
o/~ The Number Of The Beast o/~
March 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I don’t consider DeAngelo Hall a shut down corner. Hall is all speed with average coverage ability. He is Fabian Washington with more exposure and a better agent.
With that being said I wouldn’t be upset if he became a Raider, I just hope that they don’t give up too much to get him.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Michael SMith just said so on espn (Raiders and Redskins working trade with Hall)
March 7th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
How do you guys feel about going after Takeo Spikes?
March 7th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
take a look at Will Franklin starting at about 6:09 in the video. I like that he goes in the middle and he is blocking when he is not the receiver, also the guy had a very good combine. Jordy Nelson won’t be available in the fourth but he might.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qMZi119YvTw&feature=related
March 7th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
DoeDoe,
Phillip Merling DE with one of the picks
and Chris Williams instead of DeSean Jackson fa show
March 7th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I would sign him (spikes).
March 7th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
# Memo Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
“I might be alone on this, but Im getting a lil annoyed talking about the Raiders of the past. I wasn’t even born when they were “The Team of the Decade”.”
__________________________________________________
well, thats a twin bladed sword. If you bash a charger fan with arguments like “how many trophy’s do you got?” or “how many Playoff wins do you guys have”… then you got to stand by it. We were evil then, and its good to have those memories and references when we are in a slump like we have been past years.
But on the otherhand, I hear you, I too get a bit tired of “ohh the old times” talk, but I believe its a symptom of our situation
March 7th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Hey
I said Hall should be a Raiders when he was jawing at the combine….but I thought like so many others that the Giants had already locked him up…are we really talking to him ? SHEEEEIIIT….if I see that go down before a trade for a solid LB I will think someone in Alameda has lost it…we have a decent group of guys at CB…not that I would complain too loudly if we get a top CB opposite Nnamdi…
but we have already let several top LBs slip past us…what are we waiting for…the DRAFT ???
Besides…I thought AL Davis was a freak for offense and super stars at WR ??? Where’s the beef ? One star at WR with question marks ain’t gonna get it done…even though we are in a pretty weak division right now…
March 7th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
DOE DOE…what do the redskins have to do with Hall ? Have I missed something this week? Has Hall aready been traded from the Falcons..??? Christ where have I been ???
March 7th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
LMN, don’t let draft beer piss you off, he’s an a-hole. he did the same thing with me yesterday only it was the USAF sucks and career retirees are worthless bums collecting checks.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
FIRE KIFFIN Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Sean Sailsbury - With all due respect, you seem a little negative today.
What’s your problem?
****************************************************
When this team wins more than 5 games in a season (which hasn’t been done in 6 years!) I will then have a more jovial attitude.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Takeo Spikes is just what the doctor ordered…and would complete a LB group that would be dominant for years…gives us more time to work a late round prospect into the rotation in a year or two…
March 7th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Tom Flores
Not sure of the details - all I know is Michael Smith just said 30 minutes ago on espn that Thee Raiders and Redskins were trying to work out a trade for Hall - He didn’t say what players or picks would be involved though
March 7th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
DoeDoe did they say that on Sportscenter or on the website? I just checked espn.com and couldn’t find anything about Hall in the talks with the Raiders.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
looks as if everyone has been having a good time on the blog today. Lots of banter and ideas. Very cool. (I did not read all of y’alls comments but I got the tenor of it. Good things are happening and the naysayers, as they always are wont to be, are in the minimal realms, as they are always wont to be.)
March 7th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Sailsbury - Fair enough.
By the way why would a Raider fan use the name “Sean Sailsbury.”
Just curious.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
They said it on Sportscenter
March 7th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
When you shine a light on something in a critical way you are essentially saying, hey I want you to change. If critizing Al has it’s rewards in putting a decent product on the field then I say naysay.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
get ready for the announcement about Boldin joining the Raiders, it may be as early as tonight! Man you suckers are going to be begging me for info after this goes down. I am the MAN!
Hall isn’t coming by the way, according to my source thats a bunch of BS.
I also heard that the Raiders have been in contact with Lincoln Kennedy. He may be on his way bak y’all!
Y’alls Trippin ain’t got nothin on me!
March 7th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
As well as first take this morn
March 7th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
LMN,
by now you should realize that barely .01% of the US population even knows there is such a place as Denmark. Beyond that they think that Danish, Dutch and Deutsch are all the same thing. Buncha teenager minds over here. Never mind the lack of coherence from some.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
M
Come on everyone knows Denmark is in the North Bay!
March 7th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
cryptkeeper
March 7th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Naysay Knarly,
that was a good one. Primarily I was referencing those who, no matter what occurs; price of cheese, girlfriend’s choice of movie, climate change are all going to be blamed on one man. Anything good that occurs in the world will be despite the undermining wishes of the same man.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Doe Doe
this would have to be a mega 3 way deal..curious who we would be kicking into the deal or what picks??? Who do the Redskins covet on our team other than Javon Walker ??? Please tell me its Lamont Jordan and that we are actually getting some value for him…wheee!
March 7th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Touche, AutumnWind.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
We did dangle Huff out there at the combine…please AL..dont trade Huff for DeAngelo Hall..its just a wasted move…we can still get Huff to play once you slide him to FS he will be a rockstar !!!
March 7th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
LMN…surely you did not mean the Raiders of the past were evil.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I hear ya
March 7th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Oh crap I forgot about Huff. Hell no!
March 7th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Monday is Vernon Gholstons path to the draft day…can’t wait…
March 7th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
these jack @sses that have highjacked our franchise for money have to live with themselve’s and their incompetence. I only think of them, well, never! all professional athelets put or shut up!
March 7th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
We don’t need Hall people our defense is starting to get some chemistry to them we don’t need to bring Hall in and start whining once we lose the first couple games.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
explain to me why the cards would give up boldin?
March 7th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
well, it’s after midnight here. think I’ll be calling it a day.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Who Knows..maybe Al is getting ready to throw away our top draft pick on an established player today… as Almeda Insider is insisting…that would be a travesty if we dont get a top Dline guy in this years draft or at least land a supstar D Lineman in FA or via trade…I like the fact that Al Davis is making moves though..it gets the Silver and Black blood pumping thats for sure !!!
March 7th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I don’t know who Anquan Bolden is, but Anquan Boldin is an absolutely fantastic football player.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Rob Ryan & Schwag tag team “Alameda Insider” and make him their own personal “Rotisserie Chicken”
Alameda Insider gets spun line a dradle.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Hobs…
maybe its all BS but Boldin is probably getting cranky about his teammates 15 M a year average salary ???
Maybe its the only way the Cards can afford to keep Fitzgerald…who knows…
March 7th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Flores, good afternoon,
who knows what offer are out there for a shot at the one-man population explosion. Skinny legs and all.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Ooooohhh… Anquan BoldIN. It’s all so clear to me now, I wasn’t sure who Bolden was. Yeah, right. Dude’s not coming here. As much as I’d love it, we’d have to give up too much (unless they really love Lamont Jordan).
March 7th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
does anyone know how much DJ Hackett is trying to get and why no one including us is even making a play for him???
March 7th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Brown81,
my sarcasm was directed at the wannabe know-it-all AI.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Hey M
you are probably right…but the last person I would see wanting Dmac is Daniel Snyder…unless he was willing to say goodbye to Clinton Portis…which Atlanta would LOVE to have…hmmm…maybe there is something to talk about with a blockbuster deal…
then having Jordan or Walter as a backup in Washington would make sense…or maybe Andrew Walter is a target for ATL…who knows..lets just see what happens…
March 7th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
An interesting nom de blog that rarely shows is ‘Copy Boy’. He’s gotten Gibril, Kwame and Javon right, if memory serves.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
That was me, I am Copy Boy. That was my name here until I changed it to more suit my status as an insider.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
thanks for the props M
March 7th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Mad Road Dog…
with Evil, I mean something like ‘Nasty’, ‘Tough’, ‘Mean’ and from another dimension… =)
March 7th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
As interesting a Boldin acquisistion would be, I smell complete BS on this. Man up, Alameda Insider, how ’bout you just leave the blog if this doesn’t happen? I’ll gladly get in line and eat crow if it goes through.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Trust me, you all will bow down to me as the MASTER!
March 7th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Sure AI, sure. We’ll all now breathlessly await your pronostications.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
#693
you sound a little jealous.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Jesus … it all makes since now…Daniel Snider will do anything to make sure Jerry Jones does not get DMac and run all over the Redskins…man o’ man this is gonna get good…there could actually be something to this trade rumor stuff involving Redskins and ATL..after all …but where do the Raiders fit into the equation ???
March 7th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Prognostications.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
If Boldin does not sign with Oakland, which he most surely won’t, “Alameda Insider” needs to be removed from this blog.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Andrews Mom -
You’re just mad cuz I wouldn’t spend the night last night. I understand that you just wanted to be held but you got the bonus plan honey! I don’t have time for ho’s like you. Bang em and bounce, thats my motto.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
I’d be pretty shocked if we get anything for Jordan. Since we haven’t cut him yet, I’m sure we’re trying to swing a deal.
A late-round pick would be good enough for me.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
#717
They might lose Warner so trade my boy to them and I bet he beats matt out of the starting job.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Dude, you are the one posing a John Clayton & Copy Boy. You aren’t too bright, are you Alameda Insider?
March 7th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
so AI…
let me get this straight we are getting AZ’s Boldin..for who or what ??? I would love having that acrobatic WR on our team…that will really gives us a winning combo on offense ! What time do you expect the Raiders front office to announce this mega deal ???
March 7th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Andrews Mom -
Fair enough. You know I love you babe.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I have a bad case of the Smallcox
March 7th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
I remember the Mexico City game…Boldin was a superstar that day…and I think McCown threw most of the passes because Warner was hurt…
what a crazy deal that would be like getting Russell right atfer we lost Moss…you know…we just lose McCown who used to have chemistry with the guy…very funny the way the NFL works out…kinda like LIFE.
WEIRD
March 7th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
way to show one side of the story LMN. Typical Danish BS. Just isolate the parts that suit your argument. Danish people are disgusting as a whole. You typify that statement.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
# Memo Says: How do you guys feel about going after Takeo Spikes?
the last thing a rebuilding team needs is a 10th year underperforming linebacker who just got released.
over-the-hill players will do nothing but set this team backward. Think of all the snaps given to Tim Dwight that could (and should) have been given to Johnnie Lee Higgins. Every moment Tim Dwight was on this team was a wasted moment. Takeo Spikes would be just as much of a waste.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Now Alameda Insider is posing as “Eric The Midget”
March 7th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
NFL is airing Favres’ best game at the expense of our embarrassment…
geez there is another bust we had at QB …Rick Mirer….please Football Gods…let Russell be the Black John Elway !!! Only dont make him wait so long to have success here in Oakland !!!
March 7th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Alameda Insider…
Sorry to disappoint you but I never said I had a side of the story… I just cleared out that your statement didn’t compute…
It was YOU who claimed that “All YOU have talked about is football”. I never claimed anything…
But I do talk off topic, thats a fact! =)
March 7th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
LMN,
anyone with a brain appreciates your contributions here. No need to respond (although it can be fun :)) to the witless.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Pirate
I agree that Tim Dwight was a waste, but remember Kiffin was playing for his job and rep as hi sfirst year as HC…and wanted to win anyway he could…and that wasn’t next year…it was then and now…so having a solid LB crew is an improvement over last years…look at the LB position on our roster…its pathetic…really…even if Spikes ended up as a back up who cares? He was cut for salary cap reasons..and had a roster bonus due…with a salary of 4.5M or something like that…thats why he was cut…and we should give him a year to at least help us stop the run until we get our 3rd LB in the draft and are set at the position…believe me I hate the over 30 crowd on our roster…but I also want to win more than 6 games this year…
March 7th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
I am getting phsically ill reliving this game…its no wonder AL starting picking CBs in the first round after that disaster…
March 7th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Hello Fellas,
Wusup Mr. Flores, LMN, M, FLORIDA (yeah)! Pete, Dakota and all other faithful bloggers…had a lil hiatus soaking up the good news of our acquisitions and looking forward to the Draft.
Has anyone seen Mayock’s Mock Draft?? Pretty interesting if you ask me.
1. Dolphins Matt Ryan
2. Rams Jake Long
3. Falcons Glen Dorsey
4. Raiders Vernon Gholston
Hate to say I told you so but Ive been thinking this FOREVER.
Anyways…How in the He&^Y( Does Chris Long fall to our lap and we pass on him.
What do you guys think about Mayock’s Mock?? As I think he is a pretty good measuring stick despite last year’s claim that we would probably take Calvin Johnson.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Tom Flores…
then you should watch, week 16 Dec 22 1990 Oak@Min…
I watched it earlier, great game, I got it from a british feed, with Bill Walsh commenting. Gannon was benched but due to injury Gannon comes in, its funny to hear walsh talk about how he likes Gannon if he gets the right coaching =)
March 7th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
MIA…
good to see you back =)
March 7th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
The game was at least good to see so I could remind me that Shell in fact could win games =)
LOL
March 7th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
MIA
well if Miami really does take Matt Ryan with the intention of trading him…and If Chris Long drops…we may end up with him..but that is alot of IFs…
I am already over it..I am looking at all the WR talent coming out in ‘09 as sophomores or ‘10 as juniors…whoa…we get one of these guys as our number one then, and I guarantee I will be in Vegas throwing down my bet on Raiders to go all the way…
March 7th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
there is a link on yahoo’ front page…
March 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Tom Flores
I hope the Hall trade would be 4 fabian washington and a 4th rounder - That would be worth it to me - I just hope Huff is staying
March 7th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Mayock didnt have Chris Long or Dmac in top 5 ??? I am surprised since he was trumpeting Chris Longs name everywhere leading up to the combine…and then Brandon Flowers as top CB…
I would take any defensive guy that is in anyones top 10 and be “stoked”, at this point they are all better than what we have…and guranteed to make a positive impact on our D…
March 7th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I was also thinking the same thing you were about Boldin - Maybe they have to get rid of him to free up room to 4 Fitzgerald
March 7th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
yes..please Al, do not let Huff get away and become a star somehwere else…
March 7th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I just hope AI isn’t bluff on the entire Boldin thing cuz that sure sounds like a strecth to me
March 7th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
LMN
Watching Packers game and just witnessed Javon Walker toast Buchanon and Dorsett for a Touchdown…Priceless.
Flores
Tell me about it! Too many what freakin iffs..going to let it rest and let this pan out already
**Is there any validity on a DHall Trade?? Havent heard this anywhere at all???
Monday - Gholston Path to Draft…Sweet.
March 7th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
maybe AZ wants to get in the game for DMac too…Edgerin James isnt exactly killing it there…and I believe they would rather have a home run RB like DMac than another great receiver…besides… they could bring back Bryant Johnson if they trade Boldin or Fitzgerald…
March 7th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Did anyone see Javon Walker just burn us for a long TD..???
Hmm…hope he comes back to that form this year
March 7th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Night Fellas,
Going to hit south beach.
Check everybody later during the weekend.
March 7th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Never thought of the scenerio - That jus may..
Walker Boldin Curry Higgins
I can live with that!
March 7th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Have you guys heard the interview with Walker going to the Raiders yet??
March 7th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
MIA I would rather wait and grab Howies other kid anyway…I thought it was funny the way he described…him…being… “the one that would grab you by the throat when the light goes out !!!”
WE Need some guys with mean streaks on D right about now…
March 7th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
see ya MIA…get a word in with your pal Jason Taylor and see if he has anything left in the tank and wants to play two years for a team on the rise…
March 7th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
doe doe
where is it ?
March 7th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Flores
10 min JJWalker interview if any1 else intrested
http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=39697@kcnc.dayport.com
March 7th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Testing the water…seems pretty tepid round here.
Memo to everyone…check in at http://www.oaklandraidersdarkside@yuku.com
No hype. No bullshit. We talk Raiders 24-7-365. No rules. Straight up. Hardcore Raider fans get the standard welcome.
March 7th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Trade the wife beater Fabian for DeAngelo Hall, move Wilson to strong safety and Huff to free safety. Then draft McFadden in the first round and the best available defensive lineman in the second round. Add a run stopping MLB, and you have a terrific defense and a scary offense.
March 7th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Straight up?
Why and how could that happen?
Come on man….
March 7th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Frank Booth - That’s an email address isn’t it?
March 7th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Doe Doe
thanks for that…I loved the whining by Lombardi at the end…about Walker staying in the division and playing for MR AL DAVIS hhahahahaha
March 7th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
I’d like too see Dangelo hall as Raider, perfect Type of @$$ kicker we need around there. I dont care if he starts whinning when we lose I’m sick of all these gentle wuss’s that go with flow and end up getting flushed!!! The great ones demand the same from everyone around them or there’s hell to pay!!!! So far Kiff ain’t nothing but a little preppy who refuses to wear his shirt’s untill he gets his freaking way.
remember al is a native new yorker a sanatra fan and he say’s “I DID IT MY- WAY”
March 7th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Negative dullard. Does it sound like one?
You riding the short bus with a plastic football helmet on?
March 7th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
I need info.
Yalls Trippin,
WHERE YOU AT?
March 7th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
catch yall later
March 7th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Alameda Insider
still waitin’ for the big news on Boldin to appear tonite…what gives ???
March 7th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
This is off topic but wanted to bring it up anyway. I promoted a late round ILB that was productive in college and just had a great pro day. His name is Stanford Keglar, he’s big, he tackles, 39″ vertical, 4.5 forty, and led his team in tackles. I prefer Curtis Lofton who will probably be gone by round 4, this kid’s a good fit. Al will look at him because of his speed, and we’d like him because he can actually play the run.
March 7th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Whats up Alameda Insider
Any News on Boldin??
March 7th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
this chat room is too dead for me, tonight! we gotta start hearing from some players in here. out!
March 7th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
No relation. Florida Pete and I were exchanging draft scenarios yesterday and we were talking about the possibility of drafting late round players that could compete to start. A position of need in the later rounds should be a MLB. Pete and I liked Curtis Lofton but realize he won’t be around in the fourth round. I suggested Stanford Keglar after reading up on him based on his production and size he’d be a good fit. KFFL reported his pro day results today and he ran a 4.5 forty with a 39″ vertical. The guy is big and fast which Al loves, perhaps he might make our radar.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
sweet… assasin, It would be interseting to know just how much influance forums like this have on the powers that be. Problem is, most could handle all the criticism!!
March 7th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
In Too Deep - Doubt this blog has much influence, however, we’ve seen a couple of so-called Raider personnel in here blogging. It’d be interesting how much info makes it back to Alameda.
We need to get a list of name to Yalls as he appears to be the only legit link we’ve got
March 7th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
jerry write something fast were flamingt around here. Last weekend my wife and I caught this comedy routine in temecula cal. were the comedian was straight out booed off stage the fool just about had a heart attack on stage he definintly lost his body weight in sweat!! lol
March 7th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
assassin I had this image of some pip sqweek pr guy walking into ad’s office and reporting to him about the subject matter in this blog. just to see ad covering his ears going la, la la, la I’m not listening to you. oh yea, by the way, your fired!!
March 7th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
nice link doe doe
crazy blog today, full of fun though
March 7th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
What’s up with the picture on the “Raiders Report” video link on the Raiders page? Is that Al Davis in the middle?
March 7th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
AI
not calling you out just hopeful that you are right…Boldin and Walker with JLH, Watkins, Holland and Curry would be a very decent WR group…
March 7th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
hey kirk do we have shot at getting Hall? what you know, give it up!
March 7th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I only know what is talked about here. Hall wants out and said he won’t play for the Falcons again. ESPN is saying we are in the hunt. I hope we can work out a trade, something like Fabian and a pick. We would have a great secondary then!
March 7th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Tom Flores
I asked Alameda Insider about Boldin -
Check out his response # 780
March 7th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
NFL network talks a couple of minutes about Thee Raiders off season moves..
http://www.nfl.com/teams/oaklandraiders/profile?team=OAK
March 7th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
i would love to have danny back, but why would they sign him when they signed williams to such a contract? sorry but not going to happen!
March 7th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Seattle signed Julius Jones the RB from Dallas. Not that Jones was ever gonna stay in Dallas but the DMC to Dall-ass rumours are gonna heat up.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Especially since D-Mac said he wants to play for Dallas
March 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Pacman wants out of Tennessee.
That would be an old-school Raider pickup. In all seriousness, he would help our return game as much as our secondary.
Any takers?
March 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
A trade down with Dallas would be for their #22 & #28 but now that Julius Jones is gone to the Emerald Triangle there’s no way Marion Barber is still part of the equation.
So what about our #4 for the #22, #28 and the Cowboys 3rd round pick? Seems like decent value, but if the Cowboys were dangling Barber with the 2 first round picks already, then maybe the Raiders could get something more than a 3rd round pick.
Any thoughts?
March 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
The news of Clark makes me think two things:
1) He would be added in a backup role and play in short-yardage situations.
or
2) The Raiders are thinking of playing some 3-4 in 2008 and Clark would man the middle with Morrison.
The third possibility would involve moving Morrison outside and putting Clark back in the middle. I kind of doubt that, but it’s a possibility — that is, if he signs, of course.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Id Take PAC - Im sure he’s gonna go cheap
March 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Well Justin they play different positions and I’m sure Sam Williams has a clause that says he must make the team. So taking Clark is kinda without risk. And let’s say Williams somehow plays really well and the Raiders stay with their LB’s as they are now. Well, just cut Clark, like Darius last year. No fuss, no muss.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
According to pft.com Pacman wants to be a Cowboy as well. He has skills for sure, but let Pacman be someone else’s headache.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Chris I think you’re right in all of those. He could back up, play MLB in a 4/3, play inside in 50, play inside in a 3/4. Lot of versatility there.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
No way the Cowboys give up Barber and two 1st rounders to get McFadden. I heard that rumor somewhere but it sounds ridiculous.
I’d rather have Barber straight up over McFadden. He’s a beast and he’s already proven he can play on Sundays.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Chris again I completely agree. That’s a question I’ve asked here a bunch. No way is a pro bowl back in that equation. So, that being said, would you trade #4 overall for #’s 22 + 28????
March 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
We could get Desean Jackson with the 28th put him in the slot and return kickoff’s - as far as the 22nd. The best DE’s on the board would be Calais Campbell out of Miami and than Derrick Harvey out of Florida
March 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Chris -
I heard that rumor a few weeks back, but it was a deal bewteen the Dolphins and the Cowboys. Supposedly that’s what the Cowboys were offering. Who know’s if it’s true or not. But if it is even close to being true, if the Cowboys do want McFadden that bad then they will do whatever they think is necessary to do so. Think new stadium, McFadden wearing the STAR for years to come. I can hear Jerry Jones heavy breathing from here.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Calais Campbell out of Miami and than Derrick Harvey out of Florida not nearly as impressive as Chris Long or Vernon Gholston - Id keep our 4th pick for either Chris Long or Vernon Gholston
March 7th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
There’s no way that LB Keith Rivers would last to #22, so for me personally #22 & #28 wouldn’t be enough for our #4. Thats what I was saying before, I’m not sure if an addtional 3rd rounder would be enough in addition to #22 & #28.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Oak,
I would make that deal, but I’d try to get a 3rd rounder thrown in too. That’s reasonable. I’d at least want another pick thrown in from rounds 3-5.
To me this deal makes perfect sense for both teams. The Cowboys are on the verge and another explosive weapon like McFadden could probably do more to put them over the top than drafting a few lesser guys who will wind up playing behind the likes of Witten, Barber, Romo, T.O., their top notch o-line, quality defense, etc.
Meanwhile, the Raiders need help on the o-line, d-line, LBs, WR, kick-return game, etc. So they would benefit more by adding three players between picks 22-80 than just one guy at pick 4.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Dogg, what is up??
DoeDoe, I completely agree. I’ve been saying on this board for months that Desean Jackson is gonna be this years Johnnie Lee Higgins. And I’m a BIG Cal guy. I think Desean in just too small. I really like Lavelle Hawkins tho.
Right now Mike Mayock has Matt Ryan #1, Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey, us taking Gholston and Chris Long falling to 6. Wow. I don’t see us passing on Chris Long.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
I dont see anyway Al passes up on Chris Long - We all know how Al lives in the past -
March 7th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
we are not passing on Long. al would make too much money off of Long to pass. Mayock is an idiot to say that Al would pass.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Sometimes I think Mayock is on crack. No way Long sits till No. 6. He’s the only player the Raiders might want to stay at No. 4 to take if he was there rather than trading down.
At least Mayock is willing to go out on a limb, unlike most “analysts” who regurgitate consensus predictions as if they put a lot of thought into it.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
I’m looking at you, ESPN.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
What up OG? I’m just getting ready to hit the road first thing in the morning, thinking about unwinding to a leg copy of Semi Pro my buddy tossed my way.
I’m not too high on DeSean Jackson either. Good call on the JLH comparison.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Another comparrison for DeSean Jackson: Desmond Howard.
I think DJ’s too little to be a great receiver but may have a decent career as a return guy.
I know Steve Smith is short but he’s built solid and much stronger than Jackson, so I don’t think you can look at SS and expect that kind of production from DJ.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I’m out y’all
everyone have a good night.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
On the other hand, DJ might not be a terrible pick for us late in Round 1 or in Round 2 though. We really need a return guy and a deep threat. I don’t see him as an every down WR, but we are lacking an explosive playmaker like that.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Hey there they are showing the Raider game against Green Bay after Favre Father passed away and he ate us up.It is on the NFL Network.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
RaiderDogg, Oakglenn
Dogg
Hope all is well, and shout out a hello to SNB666, if he posts “for me”, I can’t blog when he is.
Great post today, stay hopeful.
Glenn, I thought you were going to get run off, reading all the blog entrys it is real amusing, and entertaining.
You take many hits, you remind me of a shooting gallery target, stay upright.
I’m outta here, lots of work and more boring stuff to do, peace.
I forgot, any trade down is fine with me, as long as we get another pick in any round.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Nighty night people!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
I would not make the deal with Dallas unless they give us fair value according to the draft value chart. That would be numbers 22 and 28, their second round pick and their fourth round pick. Also, I would not be willing to give up much to get Packman Jones. He is just one mistake away from getting suspended from the league possibly for life.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Bring Carr back here!
He plays with a lot of heart. IMO CLark would be nice for putting a hat to the run game. It’s all we really need or ask of a third LB.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
This game is effing ridiculous…They were catching everything. I actually thought we were playing pretty good.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
regarding the mocks, I don’t believe M.Ryan will be drafted #3 or anywhere near there. He’s not even as good of a prospect as B.Quinn, definitely not as good as Lienart, both guys who freefell. The fans and media think, Oh Ryan’s the top QB, he has to go at the top of the draft. NFL execs are smarter than that (a little). JaMarcus went #1 because he’s a unique talent, the kind of guy who’s not going to come around very often. But M.Ryan, teams will pass on him, even teams like Atlanta needing a QB. Just like the Raiders passed on Leinart even though they needed a QB. MAYBE he gets picked by Balt at #9, though I doubt it. He’ll drop just like B.Quinn. R.Clady will drop as well.
So in our guessing as to who the Raiders take, we should get M.Ryan out of the picture in the top 3 (though I wish he would get picked).
A lot might come down to Dorsey’s leg, whether it really is a concern. This guy was the universal #1 pick until the combine. So his stock dropped, but is it dropping in the eyes of the media and fans or is it dropping in the eyes of NFL execs. I think it would have to be pretty serious to cause him to drop precipitously, and it’s hard to believe that he has such a dominating year if it were serious.
So it could go C.Long, J.Long. G.Dorsey, V.Gholston.
I thin most likely we end up with J.Long, G.Dorsey, or V.Ghoston. I’d be fine with any of them provided Dorsey’s let isn’t as serious as speculated.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Yeah Bo jack, I saw that game live, very close to the action. I thought we played pretty well too. They just made the plays. Definitely one for the ages.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
“It’s rare for a team to throw cold water on contract numbers being trumpeted by the agent for a newly-signed player. It’s unprecedented for a team to set the record straight by giving out blatantly incorrect information. The Raiders admitted they were wrong, but the mere fact that they got it so wrong reveals a shocking level of incompetence — and that has to point to the man in charge.
And it makes even more curious the stream of denials flowing from the organization regarding the status of coach Lane Kiffin. The team claims that no rift arose in the wake of the 2007 season regarding the status of defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, that Davis didn’t ask Kiffin to quit, and that Kiffin wasn’t frozen out of the decision to hire receivers coach (and possible future head coach) James Lofton. But how can anyone put any stock in anything that the team says in light of the Walker fiasco?”
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=376304
March 7th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Whoah….
More from Florio:
“Meanwhile, Raider Nation finds itself unwittingly trapped in a Black Hole of denial. Check the comments that will be posted at the bottom of this item. Plenty will again chastise the “media” for having an agenda against the Silver and Black.
The truth is that, if the media wanted to see the Raiders fail, the media wouldn’t say a thing. Instead, the media would sit back and watch it all continue to crumble.”
Daaaaayuuuummmmmmmm…….LOL!!!
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=376304
March 7th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
we need deangelo hall & pacman and all other pissed off cast off’s with monster chips on their shoulders. I want guys driven by somthing more than a PAYCHECK!
March 8th, 2008 at 12:04 am
you’d think Florio could come up with something original to say if he’s going to devote a whole column to the Raiders. Really not an original thought in that there. The sporting news should ask for its money back.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Pro Football Weekly
March 7, 2008
The Raiders raised more than a few eyebrows around the league when they signed WR Javon Walker to a six-year, $55 million contract — a deal that, at first glance, seemed a bit outrageous considering he was just cut by the Broncos and has been plagued by knee injuries in recent years. However, the deal is backloaded and Walker is guaranteed just $25 million over the first three years — a fairly standard price for a bona fide No. 1 receiver when healthy. Oakland could release or attempt to trade him before the contract escalates to $10 million per if the knee in question is acting up. A close observer of the Raiders said acquiring Walker was a wise move to make considering that the six-year veteran, if healthy, gives second-year QB JaMarcus Russell a go-to receiver — something Oakland has been searching for since Tim Brown left after the 2003 season. Aside from his knee, the biggest concern regarding Walker is his attitude, which has earned him ugly exits from Denver and Green Bay, but Raiders owner Al Davis never has shied away from taking players with character issues.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:13 am
Maybe not an original thought, but that’s about the best I’ve ever seen a journo call out the Davis worshipers. He’s spot on in his statements that I quoted in #819. Spot on.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Ok, Ill say this, he’s wrong to say “Raider Nation”, because not all of us are Al worshippers or in denial for whatever reason. Most Raider fans are fed up with Davis. So, he should have been specific. But we know where he’s coming from.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Don’t get “MeAngelo” Hall. He is a cancer and is not a great corner, got beat many times in Atlanta. I am a former Atlanta resident and everyone is wanting to get Meangelo out of Atlanta. If he comes to the Raiders, he will be crying that the better other corner gets more media attention than him.
March 8th, 2008 at 2:01 am
copy boy also said we would get larry triplett and bryant johnson his source was wrong
March 8th, 2008 at 6:54 am
QUESTION OF THE DAY:
The coaching staff cut Barry Sims before signing any other tackle - quite a move to say the least! You don’t cut a starter unless you have somebody in mind to replace him. And if you already know who that person is, in the normal course of business, you sign him BEFORE cutting the starter - otherwise you give the player more negotiating leverage. With that said, here’s the question of the day:
Who does the coaching staff have in mind to replace Barry Sims? (this person is likely the shoe-in to start this year)
A. Mario Henderson
B. Kwame Harris
C. Draft Pick
D. Paul McQuistan
EDUCATED DISSERTATIONS ONLY!!!!
March 8th, 2008 at 6:57 am
2nd question of the day.
Where will the Duece end up?
March 8th, 2008 at 6:59 am
With Dueces roster bonus coming due, what a slap in the face of dedicated player. Yes he slowed due to injuries but what a way to be treated.
March 8th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Hahaha …maybe the QOD is easier answered than I thought …Raider Rule #1: Cheating is encouraged. A look at the Raider depth chart on Raiders.com http://www.raiders.com/team/Default.aspx?id=102
ORT: Green / Henderson / Palmer / Wilson
ORG: Carlisle / McQuistan
OC: Newberry / Grove / Boone / Morris
OLG: Gallery / McQuistan
And drumroll please …..
OLT: Harris / Henderson / Wand
OR MAYBE THE WEBMASTER GOT IT WRONG!!! or this was his interpretation of what has occurred insofar - i.e. it could be wrong???
March 8th, 2008 at 7:24 am
The depth chart also has Hiram Eugene starting over Gibril Wilson. So, I wouldn’t take it too seriously.
March 8th, 2008 at 7:30 am
The only thing I find wrong with Florio’s article is this…
The 2002 Super Bowl was not a fluke. The Raiders won 3 Division titles in a tough AFC West and played in 2 AFC Chapionship games during that span.
They also went to the AFC Chapionship game against Buffalo when Bo Jackson played with them.
The Eagles have never won a Super Bowl, but no one is screaming for their owner to step down. What about the Cards, or the Lions, or the Titans (Oilers).
Bret Farve and the Packers went to 2 Super Bowls and came out with a 1-1 record. Other than that, what have they done?
I don’t hear people screaming for their owner to step down. Al might spend too much, but that guy refused to get Bret help, even to the point of running Bret off.
How many bad player moves have the Lions made?
I am sick of everyone in the media centering on the Raiders. They were in the Super Bowl 5 YEARS ago. They had 3 Division Titles in a Row this decade!!!!!!!!
How many other teams can say that?
How come you don’t see any articles on hw far the mighty, once proud 49er franchise has fallen?
Florio can suck some nuts as far as I’m concerned. Typical East Coast BS from a want-to-be hack who thinks he knows it all, when in reality he don’t know shit!!!!
March 8th, 2008 at 7:31 am
4 things come home when I look at the WEBMASTER’S depth chart referencing the DEFENSE
1. He/she got the Safety depth chart wrong
2. The DE cupboard is bare (Burgess & JRich). That means AT LEAST! 2 more DE’s will be drafted or signed by Training Camp. DE is very likely in the 1st round now! Maybe even the 2nd too.
3. DT is in need of 1 more big body but not as much as DE. To me that means this position is likely to be filled later in the draft. Round 2 on back. The positin I think they’ll draft is at Sand’s position. That means the Bryant/Moore types.
4. LB corp could use some suring up. Clark would be a very good signing cause if Captain Kirk goes down the LB corp will have problems.
DEFENSIVE PRIORITIES: 1.DE - 2.NG - 3.LB
March 8th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Also as far as defending this team:
They have had a very bad bad luck run with draft picks that ANY team would have made, all of the bust 1st rounders were direct area of need players that were at the top for there position. They simple drafted alot of busts….and bad coaching moves at the same time also added to these players not making it.
Although a very bad 5 year run, you have to consider that Gannnon had a few years left, and the team had loaded up to make a few more runs for the title, veterans and expensive FA were the norm, the raiders were in cap hell for several years, along with unlucky draft picks and a COACH who wanted to live closer to his family in tampa, and simple would not sign for any amount.
Easy to point fingers, but being real, looking back you have to admit it, there are other reasons….and frankly the media and nfl hate davis even more than guys who love the team and hate him do.
March 8th, 2008 at 7:40 am
sam baker,might be a good fit out of usc in the 2nd rd.
to compete for the starting spot .
presonally i have a hard time seeing kwame harris as
our starting LT. tom cable and al must really know something we don’t . i hope JR is convinced …… hmmm.
March 8th, 2008 at 7:42 am
Regarding 827, toss up between Henderson and a draft pick.
Though it is tempting to see what Cable could do with a number four, the fact of the matter is our defensive line is in much worse shape than the Oline.
We need a starting DT at number four otherwise our offense will not see the ball in critical situations. Depth on the Dline is also questionable with Sands and Warren.
My bet is Cable’s line will be enhanced with an OT in the second round. After that let’s see if we can get a WR. Forget running backs.
March 8th, 2008 at 7:54 am
Onto the OFFENSE.
This is straightforward too. Three positions are in need: WR, OC, and OT. The WR position goes without saying. The Center position must be a concern as its headed by 2 injury prone players (Newberry, who’s yet to sign?? and Grove)and the rest are unknowns (at least to us). Problem is I’m not so sure if there are any Centers the Raiders want to draft in THIS draft. Better Centers suppose to be coming out next draft so I’ve read, which may be a good reason to bring New back for 1 more year.
The OT position is intriuging. How far along is Henderson in his developement? Enough to start at RT or LT? Did Harris get a starting LT garauntee? They can’t be satisfied with Green - can’t be. Are they gonna go into the season with Harris @ LT and Henderson @ RT, vice versa or Green? McQuistan does provide versatility for depth at RT now. Suffice to say, I can’t anwser anything here with confidence. We’ll have to use the wait and see approach - see what comes outta mini TC. With the versatility that these OL players have this day-n-age its hard to know at what “classified” position on the OL they are likely to draft 1st. OGs can play OT and OTs can play OGs nowadays.
Bottom line: Referencing the Oline - I’m not sure if they’re drafting starters here or depth …not until mini TC ends. For now I’ll say this is a later pick. All Offense picks are likely later picks. WR will be for quality depth and OL is likely to be for quality depth EXCEPT THE RT SPOT IF HARRIS PLAYS LT AND HENDERSON IS NOT READY YET, vice versa, Harris plays RT and we don’t have a LT - can’t make the call. Gotta wait and see.
March 8th, 2008 at 7:59 am
I’d like to think that it would be McQ who starts at LT with Harris filling in at RT.
McQ was solid at T last year, I mean solid. He played LT in college so with him having a year under his belt under Cable already, let’s see what he can do.
I’m sure it will be a competition between McQ, Harris, and Henderson in the upcoming OTAs to sort it all out.
The thing that concerns me about Harris at LT is his one year contract. If he wins the job and plays stellar, I can see us being right back in the position of needing a LT as he would surely chase the biggest paycheck.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:04 am
snake excelllent points..
suckers in the media are laughing now ,
but i see the ship turning around . i look at this team and we still got some young talent .we do have some holes . what i dont here is how oakland were in alot of tight ball games. the offense didn’t have the play makers to put points on the board. if you go by stats only te ‘D really sucked . but if you go by points 8 out of 12 losses were by 7 points or less.
i’m not an avocate for gruden,( he had no game plan with the ravens in the championship game). but he started by concentrating on the division first .
if you look in our divison going into next year
i see us better than kc and denver (should have beat them both twice) we were very competitive against SD
( defensively ) we shut lt down….
i say this to say that with a good draft on either side of the ball , protecting our qb ,oakland can win the afc west this year.
‘the greatness of the radahs is in it’s futcha …
March 8th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Don’t know if this has been addressed but props to Gallery for restructuring his contract. I’d have to imagine that his salary is more in line with a guard now, and I’m sure that scored big points with the organization. Gallery will surely be around at LG for years to come. Maybe he’ll turn into our long awaited Wiz replacement.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Interesting thoughts there Jhill. I didn’t know McQ played LT in college. Before you said that I had McQ as a “long shot” at LT. I still do but he’s closed the gap just a bit there.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:09 am
I hear you brother …
It’s clearly wide open, sort of like last offseason.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:13 am
question …
somebody wrote oakland and arizona are talking about a trade regarding our no.4 pick for larry fitzgerald. anyone got a heads up on this or was this somebodys wish list ?
March 8th, 2008 at 8:32 am
unless fitz cut his salary it wouldn’t be realistic, there’s no doubt he’s well worth the 4th pick in the draft, and would give Russell one of the best WRs in the NFL for the next decade, but his cap number for next year is $14 M AND $17 M next year, there’s no way we could aford that, he would have to take a pay cut, and if he were willing to take a pay cut then the cardinals wouldn’t trade him, it’s not realistic and won’t happen
March 8th, 2008 at 8:33 am
I must admit ..if the coaching staff is looking at Henderson to start at LT? I’m just giddy at the prospect. That means last years draft is looking even better as time passes.
Giving it some serious thought I think either 1. they believe Henderson’s ready, 2. Harris will start at LT (cross fingers), or 3. they believe a number to tackles in this draft can start over Sims (thats rollin the dice too much imo). McQ being a long shot possibility in my book at least. Did he give up any sacks last year at RT? They played some great teams towards the end and I distinctly remember going through a stretch of zero sacks.
Based on the history here with Harris blocking for Gore in SF, it seems like he’s the RT and would be absolutely solid there in this scheme - a stone. Fargas, Bush and Rhodes must be giddy at the prospect! So Henderson at LT? Thats what I’m looking at.
Cutting Sims before the draft is rollin the dice a lot imo. I just can’t beleive the Raiders are trying to be good samaritans (sp?) and give Sims an early release without insurance.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:43 am
Although a huge risk the sims move was later rather than sooner, I loved the guy he played as well as he could and in his early years was good. Past his prime, not the answer and well overpaid. Good guy though and wish he woulda stayed as a backup, he pleyed hard, just didnt have it. The raiders need to clean house, its what has held them back for years, you cant keep paying guys that hurt your team. With the youth at both QB spots we need to get a younger O line that can grow and mesh at the same time, a vet here and there to plug holes.
Anyone else notice the age of the FA the raiders are picking up,,,,,all are about the same, and if the pan out could be stars for along time. Not raw prospects, but vets with alot left in the tank, one of the reasons all the lotto cash doesnt scare me as much.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:52 am
I just can’t look past McQ …
At a minimum, he keeps his job at RT. You’re right about that stretch of games with no sacks. I’m not preaching that he was perfect, as I do recall a sack or two, as well as a few false starts. But the right side of the line was super solid with Carlisle and McQ. I see no reason to break that up unless McQ is moving to LT.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:54 am
K-Rock
Bo did not play in the Buffalo playoff game. He was injured the previous game against Cinn at the Coliseum in L.A. never to play football again.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Cutting Sims before the draft tells me that Cable and company know something we don’t which is why I am thinking Henderson. As I said, a high second round pick could also do well in Cable’s system and they have a pretty good idea of who will be available at 35.
Projecting out that far is not that big of a reach.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:56 am
I think Green and Henderson will end up as the backups. It would be a total godsend to have a guy going from the inactive list to starting at LT. Not saying it can’t happen, but I’d say it’s more likely that he elevates himself to clear B/U LT this year.
Let Harris play his one year, then move Henderson in the starting lineup. Flip flop it if you want to, but RT or LT, I see Henderson and McQ as our guys of the future. Or at least the organization hopes it goes that way.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:08 am
sam baker willl most likely be there at #35 and he is the perfect prospect to lock down the LT position, he was an All-American 3 consecutive seasons, played in a ZBS throughout his career, has experince with kiffin and knows the offense, he could start day 1 and we could stop talking about “filling our need at LT” for 10 years or so, baring injury
March 8th, 2008 at 9:13 am
yup its a tough one to think about. The only way I can see them cutting Sims to replace him with a draft pick is if they are gonna draft either J.Long or Clady irregardless - case closed. Otherwise, its just too much of a risk to take. Thats the only gaurantee - Long or Clady will be there with the your FIRST pick. You just don’t know who’ll be there with the 2nd or how much it’ll cost to trade up for the player you want. Remember, not every tackle is made for the ZBS. Most are not! Planning to pick an OT with the 2nd pick and not knowing who’ll be there or the cost involved to trade up is a fools errand.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:17 am
You only find out who’s swimming naked when the tide runs out. Are the Raiders swimming naked here? Planning to pick an OT with the 2nd pick in hopes of landing “the one”? Thats a big risk to take and we’ll know as soon as the tide runs out - it could be quite embarrassing if they are. I just don’t think so.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:18 am
sims is replaced by Kwame Harris
March 8th, 2008 at 9:22 am
Boldin news coming very soon guys
I am the MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 8th, 2008 at 9:32 am
terrapin,
I tend to believe what you wrote is true. Post combine the Raiders have targeted a LT in the first round as the Franchise’s protector. Too much of a crapshoot to wait until round 2. Spend 30 mil on a home, a security system is in order.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:33 am
why would we get boldin when we just got walker and spent mega bucks to get everyone else too?
March 8th, 2008 at 9:35 am
people say that our D is a greater need that our O, but they underestimate the relationship between the two, they reference the success our the colts D which has roughly half the talent of ours, however, their D is more successful because of their O’s success, THE BEST DEFENCE IS A GOOD OFFENSE, the offense scores points and makes the defense one demensional, by putting points on the board you are forcing the other team to keep up with you, forcing them to pass, teams run on us more than on any team in the NFL, why? because our offense is not going to score, so, if the other team can put up 14-20 points, they win, our offense is forced to leave RBs and TEs in to block on every play, because our OL is sub par, our WRs are(were, before essentially trading porter for walker) only average, a shotage of weapons on offense, combined with an inability to utilize those weapons, and the fact that our weapons were only average to begin with does not bode well for an offense that is given roughly no to exicute it’s offense, our offensive line and previously average assemblance of weapons makes our offense one demensional, our offense does the defense’s work for them, and their offense can take the slow, steady, sure route of pounding the ball and winning a close, low-scoring game, our D is formulated perfectly to shut down anyone who attempts to pass, we have an elite pass rusher in burgess, we have a very good coverage S in huff, we have someone who can lay the wood and intimidate WRs in wilson, he have two LBs with great hands and coverage skills who can dish out pain, we have one of the best CBs in the NFL, and two solid CBs in route and washington, teams are actually scared to pass on us, BUT, because they have nothing to fear on our offense, they don’t have to, they can run all they want and after a long, painful, close game, more often then not they will walk away with a W, what we need to do is strengthen our offense, we have dramatically helped out our own passing game with Russell taking over as the full time starter, developing a chemistry with a very solid TE in miller, in turn giving curry one QB, consistently, throughout the entire season, and adding a legit #1 WR in walker, however, the question mark on offense is the OL, more accurately the OT position, our interior line is solid, which is why we are successful in the running game despite our one-demensional offense, however, mcquistan, harris, green, and henderson do not, in my mind, inspire much confidence, the best friends of a young developing QB are the underneath routes, provided by a possesion WR(curry), a pass catching FB(griffith) and pass catching TEs(miller and madsen), howver, because our OTs are mediocre(despite their potential), we must leave our FB and TEs in to block nearly every time we pass, that leaves curry on an island to get shut down, russell forcing the ball and getting picked off, the d in bad field possession and getting run on and at the very least giving up a FG because of the field possesion, am i bringing up any bad memories? we have some solid weapons now, and solidifying our offensive line with a legitimate LT(2nd rnd) and allowing our current plethora of contenders to compete for the RT spot, for which they all are a better fit, our offense will be more dynamic and russell will have a better opportunity to be successful, and because we will be scoring, the opposing O must do the same, and will not be able to run on every play, forcing them to pass and being picked apart by our defense, this relationship between O and D, and an understanding of it, is what has made the colts D successful and propelled them to a title, solidifying our O-line, finally, would in turn help both our O and our D, and in turn, our record
March 8th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Who is this MaddenRaider fellow, and how can you people just let him throw so much BS around? Taking it post by post:
(Post 261) What does the supposedly “very unorthodox measure of going public with full details of… contracts” have to do with anything? First, is it really that unusual? Second, so what if it is unusual? Third, people are always jumping the Raiders’ shit for being too secretive, but when they finally say, “Ok, fine, have it your way. Here’s what we paid the guys,” they get hammered.
The line about Davis drooling on his jumpsuit, well, do I really have to comment on its introduction into a (hopefully) reasonable and civilized discussion? What do you expect from a Cowboys blog, though, and, more importantly, anyone who would actually reference one in the first place?
(263) The Carl Steward column is ridiculously outdated. At least Blackholepriest pointed that out. Plus, remember this is a guy who predicted that Moss would be the Super Bowl MVP and that his dogging it in Oakland could be excused, so that pretty much tells you all you need to know about that guy’s opinions.
(266) Then comes more from the Cowboys blog, which begs the question: Since when does anyone really care what they think, anyway? This time they’re saying Al Davis overpaid for Walker. Maybe so. I understand the relevance of contracts in this age of salary caps and free agency, but come September, when these guys are lining up for real, who cares how much money they’re making? The only questions will be, can Walker perform and can Russell get him the ball?
(267) Next, he trots out a Scott Ostler quote. Ostler has had it in for Davis since the latter told him, after a game one day, “If I was twenty years younger, I’d kick your ass,” and never misses a chance to rip him.
(268) The PFW rant is probably my favorite, in terms of mangling one’s facts. According to their timeline, Kiffin, upset that Davis wouldn’t let him fire Ryan, began sniffing around the Arkansas job at that point. In fact, the whole Arkansas rumor circus took place weeks earlier; by the time Kiffin tried to fire Ryan, Petrino (Bernard!) had held the job for almost a month. But why should we expect people to get their facts straight in a hit piece?
(327, 328) Then comes the cherry on top, Lowell Cohn attacking Rob Ryan for his….wait for it… appearance! That’s right, the way he looks! I mean, there’s probably a hundred legitimate criticisms one could level at Ryan (and at Davis, by extension, for continuing to support him), but the way he looks? Are you kidding me? And then Cohn resorts to his new favorite trick, the quoting of a dead, former coach, knowing full well that, were that coach still alive, he might very well beg to differ with how the interaction went down. Plus — and don’t get me wrong, I admired Bill Walsh — but just because he (allegedly) said he wouldn’t keep a coach based on appearance, that doesn’t mean that that’s the right criteria on which to base such a move. Far from it.
“There was that letter of resignation Al tried to jam down the kid coach’s throat.” You mean the letter that nobody’s ever seen and nobody is sure exists and, if it does exist, nobody knows what it says? Is that the letter you’re talking about?
March 8th, 2008 at 9:36 am
M…
Good analogy…
March 8th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Boldin to retire,..however, the Fitz deal is on,…big Al working on trading # 4 for Fitz,..stay tuned!!!
March 8th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Carlisle is starting at Left Tackle, thats the only reason they could cut sims this early.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:42 am
I am actually MaddenRaider bro,…you got a prob with my insights?
March 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Good discussion this morning on the OL. I’ve got to think that Newberry is getting a good offer to come back. But if McQ is left as odd man out at RT/LT, I wonder if the coaches are exploring his ability to play C. He is 6-6 (quite tall for a C), but so is Russell. When McQ’s college coaches put him at LT (with his brother at LG), he was obviously their best OL. Kiffen, Cable, and Knapp have not hesitated to move people to the best fit.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Hey!, LMN,
the analogous mind works in mysterious ways
Fritz,
the MaddenRaider thing is something most of us simply learn to scroll past. A rash best left unscratched for it does inflame from time to time.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:49 am
graider, mcquistan went to weber state, saying he was their best OL is not saying much, although i do agree he should be given an opportunity to win the RT spot, and should be the favorite as the opening day starter at RT
March 8th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Thanks, Tommy– My point was simply that because he obviously was the best lineman at Weber St., he was automatically slotted at LT, regardless of whether his skills would fit at C or G.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:56 am
I am telling you guys Cooper Carlisle is gonna start training camp at Left Tackle. He played every spot on the line in college and in the pros. He is out back-up plan if Henderson, Harris, BAKER? or Seth Wand can’t cut it. That is why Cable was comfortable cutting Sims this early in the off-season.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:02 am
the dream draft scenario would be c.long rnd 1 and sam baker rnd 2 with okam in rnd 4, the trade down scenario would also be a great option, long probably wont be there, in which case i’d settle for gholston, as he has a higher upside, but i wouldn’t complain if we got Run DMC, but Chris Long, Sam Baker, and Frank Okam, with our first 3 picks(and adding a WR or 2 in the late rnds) would be the best possible outcome, that is actually possible, and bordering on likely
March 8th, 2008 at 10:03 am
if baker were gone, gosder cherilus or anthony collins would be other options as very good LTs who fit the system
March 8th, 2008 at 10:04 am
and also, outside of the o-line, mcfadden would sufficiently provide opponents with enough fear, and more importantly, us with enough talent, to be successful on offense, and in the win column
March 8th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Tommy Trojan,
The only thing you didn’t cover was time of possession. When you get the TOP in your favor with the offense, the defense remains fresh and does’t fade in the last part of the game. That’s why teams like the Colts and before the SB the Pats always win the close games. TOP cost the Pats the SB as their D wore down.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:08 am
I am thinking that the raiders might be looking for another Tommy Kelly DE/DT Hybrid in the later rounds as well, like Eric Foster from Rutgers. Also those Rutgers O-linemen should be on the radar; Zuttah and Sosa, they play the zone and are very mobile.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:09 am
gholston clocked a 4.58 at his pro day, with a 42 inch vertical, those are WR measurables for a 265lb defensice end who is also the strongest player in the draft, so to conclude, he is the strongest(38reps) and most explosive(42in) player in the entire draft, and has WR speed at 265lbs!!!
March 8th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Fritz…maddenraider is the most hated blogger who posts regularly..he is crafty and wishy washy and makes no sense..just like his hero barrack huessin obama..no substance and all talk…maddenraider will be after you for your comments..your on his radar..look for a blistering attack and will not try to address any of your comments..to do so will be to difficult…maddenraider was kicked off another blog that I participate on..raiders.net..he was asked to tone his points down regarding his hatred for Al Davis..he continues to write the same crap over and over..his football smarts is not at all ever shown in his blogs..his comments are always the same..he has been called out many times and failed to respond..only then does he use name calling when he is defeated…maddenraider has many different names on this blog..he is afraid of debate..look for his blog entrys early morning as he works a late night shift..maddenraider is a piece of work..wait for his response..my points will be seen..good job Fritz…
March 8th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Boldin to retire? WHAT?
I thought you were The Man, Alemeda??
March 8th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Yeah Tommy! I want Gholston!
March 8th, 2008 at 10:14 am
exla(im not typing your whole name), we were one of the best teams in the NFL when it came to time of possession, and we still only one 4 games(despite nearly winning 8 or 9, but that goes back to my previous rant), by making our O more dynamic, we wouldn’t be giving up running and time of possesion, we would have an option between running and passing, rather than being forced to run as we have been
March 8th, 2008 at 10:15 am
alameda outsider..your to stupid and pathetic to be maddenraider…you are just a moron…are all crazy people like you live in placerville…I know section 127..who cares were you sit..get some real seats…
March 8th, 2008 at 10:16 am
technically that should say 37reps, which is tied for strongest with j.long, but you get my point, guy is officially more of a freak than mario williams was, and i think those measurables at least tied him with c.long on my board, and he definitely can not be considered a reach at #4, in fact, the dolphins may be able to justify him at #1, especially being a 3-4 team
March 8th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Al is kicking ass and taking names today ha ha
March 8th, 2008 at 10:18 am
I want to watch maddenraider melt down again. its fun
March 8th, 2008 at 10:21 am
AD won the Raiders a lot of games in the past with the great “O” lines that he and his staff built. He also caused the Raiders their greatest embarrassment when he failed to do the same when after our last Superbowl. The Raiders “O” line talent is still marginal if you consider that it took a ZBS to actually get a running game. The pass blocking is still marginal when up against playoff calibre teams and there is little or no quality depth.
LT requires the best athlete on the line as it covers the QB’s blind side and is a complete unknown with the Raiders right now.. How important is it to keep JR, our 60 million dollar prize off his back?
Gallery at LG (flag monster) has turned out to be a good run blocker in the ZBS but is marginal at best in the pass blocking. He needs a very good LT and center to fight on his flanks.
At center we got a very aged but consumate warrior in Newberry. But how long will his knees hold up? and is Grove the answer for his replacement? I think not as he does not have the over all ogre like stout build and strength to hang against the premier NTs in the league.
Carlisle is back at RG but is gone in 2009 and Green at RT was marginal (another flag monster) but McQ did do a reasonable job the last three games. However, I did not tape the any games this last year and have no way to evaluate him so I am still a little leary.
Since AD has spent a ton of guaranteed money on free agency the available funds are low and the need for playoff type “O” linemen is not only obvious, its imerative. The “O” line is not a skill position and requires the least monies spent and it is our greatest need in my opinion.
Kill two birds with one stone by drafting J. Long for the tackle position and then Brandon Albert or Sam Baker with the 2nd pick. The “O” line is solved for years to come.
Jordy Nelson, WR with the 3rd pick (pick acquired in a trade) or at the 4th pick (if he is still available).
Draft DT in the 6th and 7th. Jason Shirley (6′5″,340lbs) a DT that anchored the CSUF Bulldogs D-line in Fresno will be a walk on…hear that AD?
to the “Unsung Heroes”…may you find your way to Oakland.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Oh yeah…Henderson and Harris are a complete question marks but could compete for reserve positions.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:27 am
ExLA,
Al Davis and a lot of Raider fans don’t necessarily believe in time of possession. They believe that you get the right players, and you score as much as you can. Then, you wear the opponent down that way.
You’re absolutely right, though. The way to win is to keep your offense on the field as much as possible. The last winning team we had, that’s certainly what we did. Every Super Bowl winner has won that way, including us. Now I know these guys are going to fish up stats showing Super Bowl winners having less TOP than the losers, but what they’ll conveniently leave out is the amount of times those same offenses ran the football, and the obvious fact that the losing teams had the ball when the game was already far out of reach, and the winning team was in a prevent defense, giving them everything underneath.
But, for some reason, Al Davis, and his loyal following, really do believe that if you get the right players, you can win by scoring as often as possible, giving no attention whatsoever to ball control. They also believe in the 11 on 11 defense. No zone coverage, no blitzing. You get the right players, you don’t need deception. The pressure game.
It all sounds nice. The problem: We NEVER win with it. We haven’t ever won with it, since Al Davis was head coach. In the 1970s Madden allowed Stabler to call his own plays. In those days, Davis would have been committing career suicide if he were to have fired Madden or released Stabler because of this.
Remember, the idiotic Davis worshipers didn’t come around until the ’80s. Back in those days, Raider fans demanded winning, and Davis was accountable. Therefore, whatever won games, Davis rolled with. But even after the success, he still found a way to run Stabler out of town, and replace him with Dan Pastorini. By that time Al was gearing for a move to LA and didn’t care what Oakland fans thought, anymore. He still doesn’t care what they think.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:30 am
“The only problem? The information disseminated by Da Raidahs was, well, dead wrong. Walker actually received an $11 million signing bonus, and he’ll get a $5 million roster bonus in early 2009. The roster bonus is fully guaranteed against injury.
It’s rare for a team to throw cold water on contract numbers being trumpeted by the agent for a newly-signed player. It’s unprecedented for a team to set the record straight by giving out blatantly incorrect information. The Raiders admitted they were wrong, but the mere fact that they got it so wrong reveals a shocking level of incompetence — and that has to point to the man in charge.
And it makes even more curious the stream of denials flowing from the organization regarding the status of coach Lane Kiffin. The team claims that no rift arose in the wake of the 2007 season regarding the status of defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, that Davis didn’t ask Kiffin to quit, and that Kiffin wasn’t frozen out of the decision to hire receivers coach (and possible future head coach) James Lofton. But how can anyone put any stock in anything that the team says in light of the Walker fiasco?
Meanwhile, Raider Nation finds itself unwittingly trapped in a Black Hole of denial. Check the comments that will be posted at the bottom of this item. Plenty will again chastise the “media” for having an agenda against the Silver and Black.
The truth is that, if the media wanted to see the Raiders fail, the media wouldn’t say a thing. Instead, the media would sit back and watch it all continue to crumble. ”
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=376304
March 8th, 2008 at 10:31 am
“We know Al Davis tried to dump Lane Kiffin. There was that letter of resignation Al tried to jam down the kid coach’s throat. Kiffin regurgitated the letter. We assume Al is working on a buyout. In the weird funny world of the Raiders, where no normal logic applies, this would be logical.
Let’s pause a moment for a wacky Raiders aside. When Al introduced Kiffin to the media last year, Davis called Lane Kiffin Lance Kiffin. You know that, right? All year, I referred to Lane as Lance. I couldn’t help myself. It was part of the hilarity. I mean, Al didn’t even know his coach’s name. A friend of mine — a columnist for another paper — went on TV to discuss the Raiders and right there on camera he called Lane Lance. “It was your fault,” he later told me, laughing. I guess it was my fault.
But it’s not my fault the Raiders are pure comedy.
Anyway, it’s fair to assume there will be a buyout, although it seems awfully late to bring in a new coach now. The two frontrunners for next sucker coach are Rob Ryan and James Lofton. Ryan is the hefty defensive coordinator Lance tried to dump before he himself got semi-dumped. Are you following this?
Switch to Bill Walsh. When Bill was in the hospital — dying, sad — we would talk on the phone and sometimes, if he needed cheering up, he’d say, “Let’s talk about the Raiders.” I could hear the laugh in his voice. He was not feeling malice. He was feeling the fun — the pure giddiness of the Raiders. He liked and admired Al, but he saw what was going on with the Silver and Black and, well, it was wackiness to the max.
I bring up Bill because a moment ago I brought up Rob Ryan. One day Bill said to me, “What do you think of that defensive coordinator?”
I could see where this was going. I said something like, “You mean the heavy-set guy?”
“Yeah, that’s the one.”
Bill, who always was proud of his appearance, said the guy didn’t cut the right image for a coach of athletes. I asked if Ryan could have been a coach on Bill’s staff. That’s when Bill started chuckling. “No way,” he said, although he didn’t say, “No way.” He uttered an exclamation I’m not allowed to print in this paper.”
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080307/WIRE/803070344/1010/SPORT01
March 8th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Ignore maddenraider
March 8th, 2008 at 10:33 am
“But the bigger problem is that Davis fails to recognize what an NFL head coach’s responsibilities entail. A head coach is not merely a man on the sideline wearing a funky headset who decides whether to go for it or punt on 4th-and-2. Head coaches need to be intimately involved with personnel decisions, from players to assistants. That’s not to say that the owner shouldn’t have a say in the decision-making process. They should if that’s what they desire. After all, they’ve earned that right.
But on game day, the owner is the one eating his shrimp cocktail in a luxury box, and the head coach is the one who has to manage the talents and personalities on the sideline to create a cohesive unit. Davis has consistently failed to grasp this point. He wants to play owner, coach and general manager — but picks and chooses his spots.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Commentary/Columns/2008/sohn022808.htm
March 8th, 2008 at 10:36 am
The more I think about it, the less credibility that article has.
My God, how can a journalist stoop so low, as to use Bill Walsh’s opinion of the appearance of our DC as argumentation to show that Al is screwed up. It is irrelavant and it’s grasping for straws if you look at it logically.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:36 am
maddenraider based on your age..you were still being held by mommy and daddy..how then can you talk about the 70s and 80s..unless you read articles or you came up with this crap all by your lonesome…first were told not to believe writers when they provide opinion over fact..thats when its convenient for your arguments..but when they bash davis its good opinion and fact..they said it ..in your eyes its valadation of your points of hatred..so dont tell us what happens in the 70s or early 80s..you were sucking on a nipple back then..
March 8th, 2008 at 10:42 am
# K-Rock Says:
March 8th, 2008 at 7:30 am
The only thing I find wrong with Florio’s article is this…
The 2002 Super Bowl was not a fluke. The Raiders won 3 Division titles in a tough AFC West and played in 2 AFC Chapionship games during that span.
They also went to the AFC Chapionship game against Buffalo when Bo Jackson played with them.
The Eagles have never won a Super Bowl, but no one is screaming for their owner to step down. What about the Cards, or the Lions, or the Titans (Oilers).
Bret Farve and the Packers went to 2 Super Bowls and came out with a 1-1 record. Other than that, what have they done?
I don’t hear people screaming for their owner to step down. Al might spend too much, but that guy refused to get Bret help, even to the point of running Bret off.
How many bad player moves have the Lions made?
I am sick of everyone in the media centering on the Raiders. They were in the Super Bowl 5 YEARS ago. They had 3 Division Titles in a Row this decade!!!!!!!!
How many other teams can say that?
How come you don’t see any articles on hw far the mighty, once proud 49er franchise has fallen?
Florio can suck some nuts as far as I’m concerned. Typical East Coast BS from a want-to-be hack who thinks he knows it all, when in reality he don’t know shit!!!!
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All good points, K Rock. But what you leave out is: The Raiders are the worst team in football over the last 5 years (possibly the worst team in all pro sports?). When you’re bad for 5 years straight, blame has to go to the top. So, the press is actually doing their job in focusing on Al Davis. The Niners, Lions, and especially the Packers aren’t as bad as the Raiders. When you’re the worst team in the league over the course of 5 years, coming off a last place season, with obvious organizational turmoil, the press must cover it. I say, kudos to them. Silence is the last thing we need. This organization needs to be scrutinized with a full court press until it starts winning again. As a fan who wants to see the team win, I’m all for it.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:45 am
maddenraider..you cant handle the truth…
March 8th, 2008 at 10:46 am
# CopenhagenFan Says:
March 8th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Al is kicking ass and taking names today ha ha
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Oh, indeed he is. Word has it that the Maras, Irsays, and Bob Kraft are all just shaking in their boots. Al Davis is grossly overpaying free agents to give the appearance that the Raiders don’t need Kiffin, and can just reload with talent. Like the other owners haven’t seen this before…
March 8th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Might be late, but i heard the Raiders are interested in pacman!
March 8th, 2008 at 10:48 am
“But because of the ambiguous job status of head coach Lane Kiffin, the Raiders can’t do this. Their head-coaching conundrum overshadows everything. For those of you who choose to get their daily dose of drama via “Days of Our Lives,” here’s a quick refresher on how we got to the current impasse:
1) Kiffin wants to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, not surprisingly after Ryan’s stink-job of a season.
2) Owner Al Davis says no.
3) Kiffin, pissed off that Davis blocks the move, flirts with the University of Michigan and the University of Arkansas about their openings.
4) Davis, pissed off that Kiffin would think about leaving, reportedly asks for a letter of resignation from Kiffin, a rumor that the Raiders vehemently deny.
5) Days later, Kiffin shows up to coach the Senior Bowl, sans Raiders paraphernalia. He was recently seen in Indianapolis for the Combine, again doing his best to showcase as little affiliation with the Raiders as possible.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Commentary/Columns/2008/sohn022808.htm
March 8th, 2008 at 10:49 am
MaddenRaider…I meant the blogger Al Davis…:-)
You have a tendency to make quick conclusions and not pay attention to detail. Maybe that’s why you just copy and paste the same articles written by others instead of writing something yourself?? ha ha ha
back off Joe Stalin!
March 8th, 2008 at 10:49 am
I got a thought or two…
Denver has been talking to Musa Smith, former Ravens. Lets hope he ends somewhere else than the AFC West. I liked him a lot how he played for the Ravens.
Joey Harrington, was let go by Falcons in a cap move, they think about bringing him back. I know many of you would disagree, but I would like him as our backup.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:50 am
“Alas, there is a remedy to the situation. Davis needs to fire Kiffin, and he needs to do it now. Sure, he’d have to pony up a couple of million in what would amount to a contract buyout, but such a move is the necessary one if the Raiders are to harbor any hopes of trotting out a competitive team next season. The hostility Kiffin harbors toward Davis is enough to doom a team.
Davis would then be able to promote newly installed WR coach James Lofton as head coach, a man who presumably left San Diego for Oakland with this in mind, and therefore a guy who is excited about the prospect of leading a team.
That is, until Lofton realizes what a nightmare working for Davis really is.”
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Commentary/Columns/2008/sohn022808.htm
March 8th, 2008 at 10:52 am
“Reports out of Oakland indicate that Kiffin isn’t even on speaking terms with either owner Al Davis or defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. Kiffin wanted to fire Ryan after the season and was told by Davis that he couldn’t, Davis reportedly asked Kiffin to resign and was told that he wouldn’t.
Where is all this going? My money is on Kiffin coaching the Raiders in September. But the Raiders have been such a mess of a franchise in recent years that it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Davis fired Kiffin now, or in April, or in July.”
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/02/27/oakland-raiders-could-still-fire-lane-kiffin/
March 8th, 2008 at 10:53 am
LMN yeah..Musa Smith could be a stud in with Denver with the Zone Blocking Scheme.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:54 am
maddenraider…you said you only go to one game a year..sounds like your a great fan haha..your less than two hours away..you only attend one game a year..i say find a part time job..and be a real fan…that is just to hard for you..its easy to be on the sideline and bash davis..come on mr self employed like we believe that..
March 8th, 2008 at 10:55 am
LMN Joey Harrington could be an ok backup, better than McClown. But don’t you think we need a guy who maybe WAS very good and has the mental game down and can teach JaMarcus?
March 8th, 2008 at 10:56 am
# snake Says:
March 8th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Also as far as defending this team:
They have had a very bad bad luck run with draft picks that ANY team would have made, all of the bust 1st rounders were direct area of need players that were at the top for there position. They simple drafted alot of busts….and bad coaching moves at the same time also added to these players not making it.
Although a very bad 5 year run, you have to consider that Gannnon had a few years left, and the team had loaded up to make a few more runs for the title, veterans and expensive FA were the norm, the raiders were in cap hell for several years, along with unlucky draft picks and a COACH who wanted to live closer to his family in tampa, and simple would not sign for any amount.
Easy to point fingers, but being real, looking back you have to admit it, there are other reasons….and frankly the media and nfl hate davis even more than guys who love the team and hate him do.
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Decent points, Snake. But are you suggesting that there is one single person more to blame than Al Davis for our record over the course of the last 5 seasons?
March 8th, 2008 at 10:58 am
“The biggest loser is JaMarcus Russell, the $30 million kid quarterback, who is finding out what it means to be a Raider.
Russell will either be working under a new coach, with a new offense, or he will be working under a lame-duck coach with no control or authority. He will expend energy trying to decipher the situation, and probably will learn to distrust any coaching or advice. It will be a period of wasted time and false starts - a tense and confusing situation not conducive to developing as an NFL quarterback.”
http://origin.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_8365640
March 8th, 2008 at 10:59 am
“The RTB (Raiders True Believers) insist that this all is an invention of the media. They flood blogs with assurances that everything is fantastic in the Nation, ignoring the reality: Where there is silver-and-black smoke, there’s usually a fire that burns entire seasons. The people the Raiders like to dub “false rumor-mongers” are usually dead-on in their reporting.”
http://origin.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_8365640
March 8th, 2008 at 11:04 am
madden….read the last line, was for you man
March 8th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Madden now THAT makes no sense at all. Kiffin’s level of authority is meaningless. Let’s assume that he’s a “lame duck” (But of course WE DON’T know that for sure). Kiffin is not the quarterback coach. He won’t be teaching him mechanics, he will merely be calling the plays that suit JaMarcus’ ability and level of maturity.
It’s up to JaMarcus to get in shape, watch film, learn the offense and get it done on the field.
Even if Kiffin is a lame duck, Al nor anybody else is going to tell JaMarcus what to do on the field, above and beyond Kiffin, Knapp or the QB coach.
If JaMarcus comes through, then Kiffin will most likely stay, so he determines his own fate.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:05 am
hey madden no offense, but some actual ideas of your own that you thought up would be nice,,,,possible? probably not huh
March 8th, 2008 at 11:06 am
I don’t want to get in a p-ssing contest but why all the repetitious posts and repastings by MaddenRaider. The same AD rancid pts. The same Kiffs fired crap. The I know more than everyone here. I thought this was to be a rational exchange of ideas of where the Raiders should go with FA and the Draft and of being a Raider FANatic. Not pointless diatrabs. There, I feel better now.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:10 am
CopenhagenFan
“But don’t you think we need a guy who maybe WAS very good and has the mental game down and can teach JaMarcus?”
Absolutely, but who? i dont see anybody like that out there, Trent Dilfer perhaps, but else no.
and the backup still needs to has his abilities. both talk the talk and walk the walk!
We could offer Favre a job as QB coach =)
March 8th, 2008 at 11:11 am
The fact of the matter is, that Al Davis raped and pillaged the NFL for years. He worked his opponents over and he did it his way, all the time and it worked.
Then the Raiders hit a rough patch and he brought in Art Shell, and got Bo Jackson. Bo, the perhaps greatest player ever, had a freak injury and we got creamed in the AFC Championship. We imploded.
Then Al built it up again, this time getting Gruden on board and picked up a washed up Rich Gannon, who became MVP. They went to two Championship games, and a Super Bowl in 3 years. Then Gannon went down and we imploded again.
Now Al is getting old and the Raiders are down and people (the Media especially) are giving him payback and finally can bust his chops because we suck right now. Big F’en Deal……….
I’m looking forward to this year and I see us improving, and I see Al dishing out cash to get it done. Let’s see how we fare. Calling for the ouster of Al Davis is not going to make us win this year.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:12 am
# snake Says:
March 8th, 2008 at 11:05 am
hey madden no offense, but some actual ideas of your own that you thought up would be nice,,,,possible? probably not huh
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Regarding Davis/Kiffin, some actual ideas of your own would nice, too, instead of regurgitated the spin from Alameda. I’m repeating the op ed and reporting, you’re repeating the Raiders press releases. In recent memory, the media has been far more right in regards to everything Raiders than the Raiders press releases have. (”Art Shell will bring back the toughness…”?!?)
I’m only interested in discussing the coaching situation. That’s it. I don’t care about anything else because unless our coaching situation is in tact, I don’t believe anything else matters. We can sign good players. Without a system and someone to run it, we won’t go anywhere.
I’m discussing the single most important issue facing this team. You guys are playing fantasy draft.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:13 am
tommy…..nice article on bspn giving props to scouts….which has been my assumption about you lately…if not oh well just a guess
March 8th, 2008 at 11:13 am
LMN > yeah good question! WHO? I don’t have that answer for ya! ha ha
March 8th, 2008 at 11:16 am
madden…a few weeks ago i said my piece bout kiffin…al fires him I am done till al dies,,,,was a easy decision…not that kiffin is all world, just think the team responded and he deserves the 3 year plan. Love the raiders man cant help it, always make my own opinion based off what I think, you on the other hand spam this site with crap, so who cares what you think.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Oakland Raiders - Change in Defensive Philosophy?
Going into the 2007 season it was felt that the defense could carry the team until the offense was ready, a lot of things didn’t work out as planned. The Oakland Raiders like several other teams with similar records have needs to fill and changes that need to be made to achieve a better win-loss record. The fastest path to a turnaround for any team is to improve the defense. This article will focus on the defense and the changes that need to be made on that side of the ball for a quick turnaround.
Having the ability to quickly figure out what your opponent is trying to do offensively and put a halt to it. Going back a few years the 3-4 scheme– once nearly extinct-has been revived, mostly as part of multiple-look schemes. That process has already started in Oakland when the team re-signed some of their own free agents at CB, DT, and OLB and acquired sought after free agent SS Gibril Wilson.
Raider Defensive Coordinator Rob Ryan, son of infamously feisty defensive guru Buddy Ryan much maligned in 2007, and this off-season, came to the team from the New England Patriots and probably knew more X’s and O’s as a teen than some assistant coaches. Working for three years as an Outside Linebackers coach under Head Coach Bill Belichick and Defensive Coordinator Romeo Crennel Ryan knows the 3-4 and attempted to employ a multiple front defense in Oakland and failed miserably. This was partly due to the lack of the proper personnel to run the scheme & several players not knowing the defensive philosophy. Some people might think that I’m out of my mind suggesting that the Raiders try this again but I think it is time for the Oakland Raiders to change their defensive philosophy & revisit the hybrid 3-4 & 4-3 multiple front scheme.
My reasoning for saying this is that the Raiders need to stop being predicable on defense. As an example the corners play tight man-to-man coverage 99% of the time. There is that rare occasion that the Raiders will play a little cover 2 or cover 4 zone but every team in the league knows what the team does and plans accordingly which is why a change is necessary because it will be unexpected. The Raiders were in several games last year and had leads in the 4th quarter of several games before being defeated for several reasons. Not being able to score or more importantly stopping the opponent from scoring. The Raiders lost 3 games by a total of 7 points better play by both the offense and defense & the Raiders would’ve been 7-9 which is respectable for a team that’s re-building. There are several reasons to like the 3-4, such as having and extra linebacker means an additional defender who is on his feet with a clear line of vision. It also gives the defense more options for zone blitzing, with four wild-card rushers as opposed to three, and better ability to drop eight players in coverage against multi-receiver sets.
Some might not know but the Raiders played a 3-4 defense in 1977. Today’s NFL has an abundance of young, athletic pass rushers in the 240 – 260 lb range that excelled as defensive ends in college. Steelers’ Defensive coordinator Dick Lebeau and longtime proponent of the 3-4 once said “It’s easier to find a 250-pound gifted athlete than a 350-pound gifted athlete.” The Raiders have the personnel now to make both the fronts work. The 3-4 begins with an immovable NT, the Raiders in my opinion don’t necessarily have that guy but it would be a perfect position for Terdell Sands to play after being taught to use better technique and leverage. Positioned directly over the center, with two gap responsibilities he will be double teamed on practically every play, his job will be to force running plays outside. LE can be manned by Tommy Kelly having a responsibility of the gaps to his left and right.
RE a key position, can be manned by Gerard Warren, Jay Richardson who’ll have two gap responsibilities but will frequently get a one-on-one matchup against a left tackle. OLB the vital “crash” or “jack” Rush linebacker spot can be manned by Derrick Burgess (or Vernon Gholston if he is selected at #4).
The SLB can be manned by Thomas Howard still positioned over the TE where he can cover, rush the passer, contain the run. The two ILB positions can be manned by Kirk Morrison & Robert Thomas. If the Raiders could implement a multiple front that will show both a 3-4 and 4-3 front with offenses not knowing which one they’ll run and being able to switch on any given down.
I think a switch is necessary for the corners as well having them play zone as well as man-to-man would be a good change and have the play in front of them so if it is a run the corners are in better position to support the run. The Raider defense needs to improve dramatically at stopping the run and the element of surprise would be a new twist for the Raiders but the above mentioned changes would make the defense un-predictable and in better position to slow the opponents running game and limit the long runs which are the big killers.
The secondary for both fronts will remain the same Nnamdi Asomugha & Stanford Routt starting at the corners while Michael Huff and Gibril Wilson man the safeties free and strong respectively. The backups in the secondary are Fabian Washington, Jon Bowie, and Chris Johnson at the CB position. Hiram Eugene & Rashad Baker at the Safety positions. CB/S Chris Carr is a Restricted Free Agent and the Raiders have the right to match any offer hopefully he’ll be re-signed and return for 2008.
The drafts defensively will more than likely add a DT, DE, and LB. Morrison led the Raiders in tackles for the third straight year and is one of the best pass defenders at his position. Howard ended 2007 with 6 interceptions. Some may question the drafting of a linebacker, one reason is even with the fact that Morrison & Howard are 240lbs. there is the occasional inability to get off blocks one of the reasons the Raiders gave up more than 100 yards to 10 different runners.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Copenhagen Fan,
You are so right. All teams(except for the Lions) go through cycles but some teams with great mgnt and leadership manage to keep their good times longer and their crappy times shorter. We Raiders have been fortunate. Only due to a player imploding the night before a SB and a qb getting a career ending injury the next did we get into a position of not being able to sustain our dominance. The cowgirls and Bills teams took as long if not longer to return to contention and some teams never do. The Bears were thought to be a coming team but look what injuries did to them. Do your thing AD and make it work. 5 yrs is not a long time
March 8th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Peter King of SI.com says Matt Ryan will be a better pro than Jamarcus Russell, i hate the media raider haters
March 8th, 2008 at 11:30 am
I think Peter King is actually “Alameda Insider”
March 8th, 2008 at 11:30 am
i mean, matt ryan last year wasn t even rated a 1 round QB, he had a “good” senior year with 19 INT playing in the ACC, Jamarcus played in the SEC against tougher compettion, peter King = asshole
March 8th, 2008 at 11:32 am
If matt ryan was in the same draft as jamarcus and brady quinn, he would fall to the 3 round, jamarcus would go 1st overall this year, the next year, the year after that, and the year before we took him, and before that too
March 8th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Peter King was probably liked Ryan Leaf.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:38 am
All I care is that one of the three teams picking ahead of us agrees with Peter King’s opinion.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:40 am
no, the team that picks him its because next years draft is anemic at the QB position, if tebow doesnt declare probably there is no 1 round QB
March 8th, 2008 at 11:42 am
matt ryan isn’t even a 1st rnd prospect in this draft, let alone last year’s, the only reason he’s being considered is because teams are desperate for a QB and think he can be successful, flacco, brohm, and henne are the 3 best QBs in this draft respectively, flacco is the only one who might have 1st rnd talent, but only late in the 1st rnd
March 8th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Thoughtful discussion, FRR. So where does that take you in the draft? C. Long? Gholston? Dorsey?
March 8th, 2008 at 11:45 am
i m with DMAC, i love ghlston but he has to put about 15 lbs more, or trade down for dallas 2 firsts and marcus spears
March 8th, 2008 at 11:47 am
i think its more possible to trade with the jets or with the bears, than with dallas, but i dont think anybody want to trade up because there are a lot of good RB in this draft
March 8th, 2008 at 11:49 am
It’s past your med time maddenraider
March 8th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Draft Priority:
Option 1: Chis Long
Option 2: Glenn Dorsey
Option 3: Gholsten
I hope we get Chris Long.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:52 am
next year harper(clemson) and boekman(OSU) are the top senior QBs, tebow won’t be taken seriously as an NFL prospect because his passing game relies on his athletic ability to draw attention, which it won’t in the NFL, he is more of a power runer and he will be broken down in the NFL, not a desireable trait for a QB and one that will drop him far down most boards, he has a lot to prove as a passer and will need to stay for his senior year, the top prizes as juniors would be mark sanchez(USC), stafford(georgia), and mccoy(texas), they all look like 2nd rnd picks right now but there is a year to go, and QB is the most fluid position of all when it comes to draft projections, especially since sanchez has two years of starting eligibilit at USC, and this year USC will likely win the title(it wouldn’t be a surprise if it was against OSU) and he will be a heisman favorite, if he were to win the title and the heisman, he may come out early and would be the top QB, it’s too fluid to project, but you’re right, the senior crop of QBs for next year is weak, and that does weight ryan’s stock
March 8th, 2008 at 11:53 am
A question for the Raider insiders……
What is the deal with Michael Bush? Has he recovered from his injury? Is he the equivalent of a top 5 pick now? Is he working out at the Raiders facility?
March 8th, 2008 at 11:58 am
gholston doesn’t need to add weight, 265lbs is good weight for a DE, 275 is prototype because it is expected that size is a byproduct of strength, but gholston is stronger than many 315lb guys, and he is faster than most LBs and more explosive than everyone in the NFL except for calvin johnson, if he can hold is own at 265 than there’s no need to add weight, and risk losing some of that speed/explosiveness, he is a sleeker, swifter merriman, without the steroids(i think, but don’t really care unless he gets caught because everyone’s doing it anyway)
March 8th, 2008 at 11:58 am
i heard a rumor that he was very slow , so dont be surprised if we take DMAC
March 8th, 2008 at 11:58 am
WHAT IT DO RAIDER NATION
Anything new on the Deangelo Hall trade to the Raiders??
March 8th, 2008 at 11:59 am
I’ll put my neck on the line and say that Matt Ryan will never amount to anything in comparision to JaMarcus. I’m not even that high on JaMarcus because he’s done nothing to win my support yet.
Matt Ryan has a rag arm and threw 19 picks in the ACC. Peter King is smokin’ big time hubba rock !
By the way. ESPN and other sites are making Chris Clemmons out to be a huge steal ha ha…….If he was still with the Raiders they would give him no respect whatsoever!
March 8th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
bush is healthy and working out, he is slated as the 2nd RB and has a chance to win the job from fargas if he lives up to his talent, he is a small step below mcfadden and before his injury was considered to be neck-and-neck with AP, but him and mcfadden together would in theory be the next Marcus and Bo(who are both among the top 5 most talented RBs in NFL history, allen being a legit HOFer and Bo being the most talented of all time), but then again, in hindsight, that situation may have worked out better if it were just Marcus, or just Bo
March 8th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
YEAH again Tommy…Gholston has a Michael Strahan body with Derrick Thomas speed……….I need this guy to be picked by the Raiders.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Everybody sprouted a woody after Gholston’s measurables at the Combine.
Draft Long.
March 8th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
news on deangelo hall?
March 8th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
bush is not slow at all, he may not run a 4.3 but he has legit 4.48 speed, at 6-2 245lbs, he is a good reciever out of the backfield, is shiftier than most 200lb RBs and is a beast to bring down, think of a more nimble jamal lewis with better recieving skills and no jail time
March 8th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Just Pacman baby…
March 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Besides, they have Vernon Gholston on video in North Carolina:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23504235?GT1=43001
March 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
i didnt mean that slow, i meant because of the injury, and that was just a rumor, so dont even p