Roster numbers
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, May 1st, 2008 at 12:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The roster on Raiders.com has assigned the following numbers to new draft picks:
No. 20–Darren McFadden
No. 33–Tyvon Branch
No. 82–Chaz Schilens
No. 84–Arman Shields
No. 91–Trevor Scott
The Raiders have made any official announcements regarding the signing of undrafted free agents, and typically don’t confirm such signings until they attend the rookie minicamp.
The Raiders rookie minicamp begins May 9.
Multiple outlets have reported the Raiders have signed 12 free undrafted free agents, all of which have been posted on this blog. It’s unlikely that more than one will actually make the 53-man roster; most are hoping for a shot at the practice squad or an invitation to another camp.
The signees:
TE Chris Wagner, South Dakota State; LB Shane Simmons, Western Washington; LB Malik Jackson, Louisville; C Adam Spieker, Missouri; S Darrick Brown, McNeese State; QB Brian White, Portland State; TE Darrell Strong, Pittsburgh; OL Brandon Rodd, Arizona State; FB Matt Hahn, Penn State; DE Greyson Gunheim, Washington’ DE Derrick Gray, Texas Southern.
Darrick Brown is the prototypical Raiders free agent signing. He and his brother Marcus, who signed as an undrafted free agent with the Arizona Cardinals, are also track and field athletes. They rank 1-2 in the long jump in the Southland Conference, with Darrick’s best at 25-0 3/4 and Marcus at 24-5.
Darrick, 6-foot-4, 200 pounds, was the Southland Conference triple jump champion in 2006.
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May 1st, 2008 at 12:08 pm
hey!!!
May 1st, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Blam
May 1st, 2008 at 12:09 pm
3rd!
May 1st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
McFadden number 20? Ok.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
foooooooore!!!
May 1st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
RFnet rumor mill-Jason Taylor trade talk for…..LAMONT?!?!?!?!?!
May 1st, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I read this, this morning… http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080501/SPORTS/805010362
This kid may be a great steal…
May 1st, 2008 at 12:16 pm
I’d surely give up Lamont for Jason… now that’d be way cool…
May 1st, 2008 at 12:17 pm
link please
May 1st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
It would take at least 3 Lamont Jordans for that trade.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:21 pm
What about Lamont and a 2nd next year?
May 1st, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Read away:
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakland-raiders-rumor-mill/132348-trade-rumor.html
May 1st, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Dominic Rhodes is a cry baby, we paid him a ton of cash to come here and all he did was pee himself in a taxi cab and get suspended for 4 games and then complain like a little school girl because he got punished for it.
When we sign you as a free agent and we pay you more than any other team will, we expect you to make an immediate impact and not come to town to party get drunk and get suspended then complain about the way your benched because you let the team down.
What a victim, cry me a river you loser. Lets see who takes him and how much they are wiling to pay him.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Isn’t Jason Taylor some dancer? Why the eff would we trade one dancer for another? Ha! Oh! Ha!
May 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pm
One of the comments from raiderfan.net:
The Raiders would have to cut quite a few players to make enough cap space for that deal. It would be an awesome trade for the Raiders, but Lamont’s contract is over $4 million for 2008 and Jason Taylor gets paid quite a bit as well.
And yes, Bill Parcells would have to be VERY drunk to do that trade.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Is Trevor Scott gonna be the new Tyler Brayton? Maybe…
May 1st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
KoolKell Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
It would take at least 3 Lamont Jordans for that trade.
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May 1st, 2008 at 12:34 pm
What up, Thro. How’s Utah treating you?
As far as RF.net goes, if it’s not from a guy named “WillisdaRaider”, it’s fan gossip. Willis is their inside guy, and all of his rumors are in their premium section.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Yeah, haven’t read that thread yet over at RF.net, but I just cannot believe Parcells would even THINK of doing that trade, as much as we’d all love for it to happen…
May 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
That article can’t be right. It said we would get Taylor and a conditional draft pick for Jordan?
May 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
And let’s hope Scott is NOT the next Sparkler, errrr, Brayton. And I don’t mind McFadden being #20- gives him his own Raider legacy to live up to, rather than taking Bo’s #34 (although it’s been defiled quite profusely by Cartman the last few years anyway)…
May 1st, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Raiderkoolaid Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 12:41 pm
That article can’t be right. It said we would get Taylor and a conditional draft pick for Jordan?
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the only way that would be right is if Taylor had his legs and his testicles amputated…
May 1st, 2008 at 12:45 pm
And we got them legs and testicles only
May 1st, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Is Trevor Scott gonna be the new Tyler Brayton? Maybe…
Last I checked we didn’t draft Taylor in the 1st round
May 1st, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I mean Trevor
May 1st, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I don’t know why anybody is taking anything from RF.net seriously. There is only one person there who has a clue, and that’s Willis. The rest of that place is just a sewing circle.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pm
I think that Spieker, Gunheim and Strong have very good chances to make this team.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pm
C Adam Spieker, Missouri may make the team, if the Raiders decide to part ways with grove and keeping Morris as the #2 backup.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I am sure Scott will be no Brayton. Brayton was not ever a good pass rusher even in college. Scott is a very inexperienced DE, but he is a best as a pass rusher at least at lower level D1.
May 1st, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Actually, the Raiders signed Rhodes with the knowledge that he would be under a four game suspension from testing preceding the signing. Therefore, they knew from the beginning that he was only a 12 game pickup, at least for last year.
If Jordan had lasted two more games, it may have been Rhodes rather than Fargas who stepped in and had a great season. But Fargas had that great game against Miami before Rhodes was eligible, and from there, the writing was on the wall.
As for Jason Taylor, it would be great to have him, but I don’t think the Raiders can afford the trade value. We already sacrificed most of this years draft. I’d rather not see us start sacrifice next years draft for guys on the back side of 30.
Jordan will be released as a cap casualty, because there is literally no one stupid enough to pay the trade cost when they can potentially have him on a veteran minimum contract. His injury history simply makes him not worth the risk. You also have to consider that if Miami wants him, they just have to wait, because they sit first in the waiver wire queue.
BTW: Did anyone else notice Mel Jr. saying he didn’t expect McFadden to have the top RB season because of the Raiders unsettled QB situation and the O-Line? That’s so funny, since the one thing under the current system (Cable’s version of cut blocking) that the O-Line does well is run block, and, barring injury, the Raiders will have only one QB next season. Mel knows college dudes, but I’m not sure he really knows pro teams, especially West of the Missippi (The old East Coast Bias raising its ugly head).
May 1st, 2008 at 12:56 pm
What happened to Grove… … he was supposed to be the steal of the draft that year… … could never get the strength to be a center…
May 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm
In today’s “So, what does Amy Trask do, anyway?” news:
(05-01) 11:49 PDT — Raiders owner Al Davis is reorganizing his front office and could bring in a new salary capologist and contract negotiator, a league source said Thursday.
Rams executive Samir Suleiman, the team’s director of football operations since 2000, is among those being looked at. A source within the Rams organization confirmed his candidacy Thursday.
Suleiman said he hasn’t been contacted by the Raiders and was unaware of any opening. Asked if he’d be interested, he sounded very much so.
“It’s a great organization, so anybody would be lucky to work for them,” Suleiman said in a phone interview. “And, black is my favorite color.”
Suleiman, 32, was a finalist for a similar position in Green Bay earlier this year.
His expertise lies in salary-cap management and player negotiations. He was also involved in Rams’ trades, pro personnel and player procurement.
Suleiman served on the NFL Management Council in 1997, monitoring the league-wide cap and analyzing player contracts. He then spent two years with the Jaguars as manager of contract information.
He was involved in controversy in 1995 when the Rams reprimanded him for leaving a threatening phone message with a newspaper columnist.
For the past year, finance executive Marc Badain and director of football operations Mark Jackson shared salary cap and contract duties, though Davis became increasingly hands-on during the recent free-agent period.
The job was previously held by Michael Lombardi, who was let go after the 2007 draft.
If Suleiman is hired, his priority will be keeping the salary-cap books in order. One reason the Raiders released running back Dominic Rhodes this week was to offset the cap hit from the Fabian Washington trade, which threatened to push them over the limit.
He’d also assume a lead role in pending contract talks with No. 4 overall draft pick Darren McFadden, who will command a contract in the $50 million range with at least $20 million guaranteed.
The Raiders hope to avoid a repeat of last season’s holdout by No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell, who was not signed until after the season started.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/01/SP6D10F8E1.DTL
May 1st, 2008 at 1:01 pm
DC Madam “commits suicide” today.
I swear to god, the world is nothing more than a ghetto. We’re just the biggest pimp with the biggest caddy.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:02 pm
“He’d also assume a lead role in pending contract talks with No. 4 overall draft pick Darren McFadden, who will command a contract in the $50 million range with at least $20 million guaranteed.
The Raiders hope to avoid a repeat of last season’s holdout by No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell, who was not signed until after the season started.”
THIS cannot happen again- let’s hope they get it done.. McFadden needs to be in camp from day F’ing one, none of this bullcrap like last year..
May 1st, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Truth is, this was Mark Jackson’s job. Another indication that the media wasn’t making up the Kiffin/Davis drama. Oh, this and Rhode’s input two days ago, which also concurred with media reports of Kiffin being snipped of any control.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Jordan for Taylor???
They paid McCown. Enough said.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:07 pm
But I don’t expect Jerry to elaborate on this. He would never be so impolite to his readership…
May 1st, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Apparently Mark didn’t do his job well (see J Russell)…
May 1st, 2008 at 1:17 pm
I thought Javon Walker was #84. Why did he switch to #17?
May 1st, 2008 at 1:18 pm
MR - Dude. Get over it. Its never going to change. Why do you continue to persist all the time? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again while expecting different results.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
He(Samir) was involved in controversy in 1995 when the Rams reprimanded him for leaving a threatening phone message with a newspaper columnist.
Sounds like our kinda guy!!!
May 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
PFT.com
BOWMAN ISN’T A BIRD
Posted by Mike Florio on May 1, 2008, 2:51 p.m.
We’ve been flooded today with e-mails from PFT Planeteers in Philly asking about Internet reports (man, I hate those) that the Eagles have inked Oklahoma State receiver Adarius Bowman.
Per a league source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles have not signed Bowman. We’re also told that they will not sign him.
Bowman was expected to be a first-day draft pick. An April 14 guilty plea to marijuana possession hurt him, and he ultimately wasn’t drafted.
(We should bring him in…hes a good WR with my last name.)
May 1st, 2008 at 1:22 pm
The only way marijuana is a performance inhancing drug is if you put a giant snickers bar in the endzone.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Huff, ever considered practicing what you preach?
May 1st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
# Huff24 Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
PFT.com
BOWMAN ISN’T A BIRD
Posted by Mike Florio on May 1, 2008, 2:51 p.m.
We’ve been flooded today with e-mails from PFT Planeteers in Philly asking about Internet reports (man, I hate those) that the Eagles have inked Oklahoma State receiver Adarius Bowman.
Per a league source with knowledge of the situation, the Eagles have not signed Bowman. We’re also told that they will not sign him.
Bowman was expected to be a first-day draft pick. An April 14 guilty plea to marijuana possession hurt him, and he ultimately wasn’t drafted.
(We should bring him in…hes a good WR with my last name.)
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Huff - Dude. Get over it. Its never going to change. Why do you continue to persist all the time? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again while expecting different results.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
I see Spieker, Jackson, and Gunheim all making the roster, the rest will likely either be cut or end up on the practice squad, but hopefully some of them prove me wrong…………..in the good way……….
May 1st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3372132&univLogin02=stateChanged
Well…this is a 2009 Mock Draft by Todd McShay and he has us picking 6th overall. On top of that, the last teams picking are the Cowboys at #31 and the Patriots at #32. Its obvious hes a patsy fan. According to McShay, we take the top OT. I guess Kwame and Mario don’t work out? What an A-Hole.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Hey Huff (post #42) that’s GREAT news!!! I really like that guys size, athletics and attitude. I have been telling the Iggles guys around here all week that that was a great UDFA pick-up for them. Now Al, let’s get him in here!! BTW, I use that insanity quote all the time, Einstein coined it!
May 1st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
# Huff24 Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 1:26 pm
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3372132&univLogin02=stateChanged
Well…this is a 2009 Mock Draft by Todd McShay and he has us picking 6th overall. On top of that, the last teams picking are the Cowboys at #31 and the Patriots at #32. Its obvious hes a patsy fan. According to McShay, we take the top OT. I guess Kwame and Mario don’t work out? What an A-Hole.
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Huff - Dude. Get over it. Its never going to change. Why do you continue to persist all the time? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again while expecting different results.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
MR - At least I have some pride in something.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:28 pm
let’s hope we can get bowman, the kid has pro bowl potential, he could just as easily be out of the league completely before the season even starts but he has more potential than any player in FA, rookie or otherwise…………
May 1st, 2008 at 1:28 pm
# Huff24 Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 1:27 pm
MR - At least I have some pride in something.
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Huff - Dude. Get over it. Its never going to change. Why do you continue to persist all the time? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again while expecting different results.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:29 pm
LoL huff… I didn’t even look at that mock of a mock… figured they’d diss us (again)
May 1st, 2008 at 1:31 pm
# RaiderTW Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
He(Samir) was involved in controversy in 1995 when the Rams reprimanded him for leaving a threatening phone message with a newspaper columnist.
Sounds like our kinda guy!!!
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He’s only being brought in to replace Kiffin’s guy, Mark Jackson. Yes, he is our kind of guy. He’s going to do whatever Davis tells him to, as opposed to what needs to be done to win.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Davis is the “boss” … opposing opinions are always welcomed… not always adhered to…
May 1st, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I’m well aware Davis is the boss. And, his record as the boss in recent years would indicate that him being the boss is the problem. We need rebels underneath him, like Kiffin and Jackson. Not another yes man.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:41 pm
I posted the other day that i hope we draft somewhere in this range in the espn mock.. any of these players will help..
19. Washington Redskins — Greg Hardy*, DE, Mississippi
Hardy is flying under the radar right now despite notching 10 solo sacks the past two seasons, and the Redskins will be looking for a young pass-rushing threat after failing to land one during the latest draft.
20. Minnesota Vikings — Percy Harvin*, WR/RS, Florida
Staying healthy for a full season would all but guarantee Harvin a spot in the first round of the NFL draft, either next year or in 2010.
21. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Ciron Black, OT, LSU
The Bucs will be looking to enlist the services of a talented left tackle prospect such as Black, who displays quick feet for a 6-5, 315-pounder.
22. Green Bay Packers — Max Unger, OT, Oregon
Unger, who projects as a first-day pick in next year’s draft, is the type of versatile lineman the Packers typically covet.
23. Cleveland Browns — Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson
Sapp is an up-and-coming talent with outstanding speed and pass-rushing potential. He should fit perfectly as a rush linebacker in a 3-4 scheme like the one employed in Cleveland.
The guy i really want is this guy just for the fact his dad was a road warrior..
James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State: Is he the next Andy Katzenmoyer or the next A.J. Hawk? I’ll go with the latter. The son of former WWF star Animal (of the tag-team The Road Warriors) is a two-time All-American with a great NFL frame. A tackling machine, he’s already won a Butkus Award.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Sac Raider, the draft already happened. It was last week. You must be from Elk Grove…
May 1st, 2008 at 1:43 pm
These guys are in 2009 draft genius..
May 1st, 2008 at 1:43 pm
MR Says:
Dude. Get over it. Its never going to change. Why do you continue to persist all the time? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again while expecting different results.The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again while expecting different results.The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again while expecting different results.The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again while expecting different results.
Davis is the boss. And, his record as the boss in recent years would indicate that him being the boss is the problem.
—-Dude, GET OVER IT. It’s the same with you over,over,over, over, again. We get it YOU’RE INSANE!!!
May 1st, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Time will tell MR… I think this year will prove to be much improved…
May 1st, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Sac Raider, I know you’re mocking the ‘09 draft. I’m just making fun of how pathetic it is that people are mocking the ‘09 draft when there’s a whole season in front of it. Who wants to bet NY, NE, and Indy fans aren’t spending a whole lot of time mulling over NEXT YEAR’S draft?
Want to guess why?
May 1st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
# Tonio Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Time will tell MR… I think this year will prove to be much improved…
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Had I not heard that statement the previous 4 off seasons, I might buy into it. Sorry.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Shocked that no one has noticed the most interesting bit of symbology in the assignation of numbers:
Schilens, and NOT Shields, got James Jett’s #. To me, that raises the odds that he sticks.
Peace.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Ok madden raider, i forgot you are the almighty blog king who dictates what people talk about on a blog. much apologies great one.. This is such a busy time for football now i better not waste my time by reading something thats going to happen in the future..
May 1st, 2008 at 1:53 pm
RaiderTW, it’s you and Huff who need to get over it. I’m talking football just like everyone else. If you don’t like what I have to say, then just skip to the next comment. Whining and crying about it isn’t going to stop me. So, as long as we’re talking about trying the same things over and expecting different results, it’s obviously you guys who need that lecture. Believe me, I know what results to expect when I come in here. And I enjoy it. It’s fun debate. Every now and then, I go too far and get called on it. I’ll admit it. But I’m right most of the time.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Sac Raider, I’m not dictating to you. You can talk about whatever you want. But I have the right to poke fun at it. I mean, you guys are going over …next year’s draft, when the previous one just happened. It’s kind of nutty. But to each his own. Like I said, though, you won’t catch fans of winning teams wasting their time with it. So what does that tell you?
May 1st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Another UDFA LB signed:
Ronnie Pentz, OLB, San Diego
Name: Ronnie Pentz
College: San Diego Number: 37
Height: 6-2 Weight: 230
Position: OLB Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2008
40 Time: 4.70 40 Low: 4.66 40 High: 4.78
Projected Round: Stock: High: FA
Rated number 97 out of 232 OLB’s / 2553 TOTAL
Combine Results
Pro Day Results
Combine Invite:
Height: 6016
Weight: 230
40 Yrd Dash:
20 Yrd Dash:
10 Yrd Dash: 225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump:
Broad Jump:
20 Yrd Shuttle:
3-Cone Drill:
Dates: 03/07/08 03/13/08
Height: 6016
Weight: 230
40 Yrd Dash: 4.69
20 Yrd Dash: 2.67
10 Yrd Dash: 1.58 225 Lb. Bench Reps:
Vertical Jump: 34
Broad Jump: 10′00″
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.37
3-Cone Drill: 7.13
May 1st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
And Sac Raider, you didn’t contest my assumption that you’re from Elk Grove.
My apologies…
But hey, it was nice 20 years ago, wasn’t it?
May 1st, 2008 at 1:59 pm
MR Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 12:33 am
Oh, and to respond in advance, believe me, I’ve taken it to the Chronicles comments section a long time ago. I’m done with this blog. The violins on the titanic approach by all of the homers in here, along with Jerry’s caving in to your guys’ demands, has made this place worthless.
Jerry, I’ll check back in from time to time to see if you’ve gotten your huevos back. As long as you’re catering to these homers, though, forget it. I’ll go to the Chronicle staff to get the dirt on the inner politics in Alameda that have contributed to the Raiders being the worst franchise in the NFL over the last 5 years.
DON’T GO AWAY MAD MADDEN LOSER! JUST GO AWAY!!!!!
May 1st, 2008 at 2:00 pm
i think fans of a team, whether a winning team or not, will look and see who may be available for them in the future.. why not? It helps keep me interested in college football as well. i don’t have much ties to teams like LSU, Clemson, Missouri, or Florida so i can at least root for a player i think may help my team in the future.. i don’t look at these players as saviors, just future contributors..
May 1st, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Well, Bugs Bunny, this is one of those times I’m checking in, as I promised I would. Deal with it.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:02 pm
And no, i’m not from elk grove.. i’m not even from sacramento, i just live here now.. not that it makes any difference..
May 1st, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Sac Raider, it’s all good. And I apologize for calling it nutty. God knows there are worse people in this world than football fans going over their potential 4th round draft pick…in 2011.
I just feel the organizational issues are a bigger priority.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Mcfadden is wearing #20 A fellow by the name of Barry Sanders wore #20 as well, he was pretty good.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Good for you, Sac Raider. ..That you’re not from Elk Grove. I thought you were too pleasant to be from there.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:05 pm
What up Nation!
I believe I was the one who predicted D-Mac’s jersey #20. Not to toot my own horn but,,(insert horn from Dukes of Hazard). Anyway allow me to make some more predictions:
Justin Fargas will start the first few games eventually becoming trade bait.
D-Mac will take over the way Peterson did last year and will rush for at least 1,200 yds.
The Raiders win 11 games this season.
Lane Kiffin will be named coach of year.
Media will be upset because they will be forced to give the Raiders respect again. I hope Im right. YA KNOW?!
May 1st, 2008 at 2:06 pm
But those issues aren’t going to change. Davis runs the show. period.. Would you rather just sit here and vent about it over and over again?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Rick The Hunter, I think McFadden starts from the gate.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
I’m buying a Dorsey jersey, and tearing off the Chief logo. Protest Davis’s poor drafting, while staying loyal to the Raiders. Drastic times require drastic measures.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Sac Raider, why do you whine about my being here? Why can’t you just skip my posts and go to the next, if they get to you that bad?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Question for you RTH. If Kiff wins 11 games, you think he remains coach or you think Davis fires him anyway? Or you think he quits and takes another job?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Maddenraider says:
Like I said, though, you won’t catch fans of winning teams wasting their time with it. So what does that tell you?
—We shouldn’t catch fans of OTHER teams on this blog but here you are. Beautify America, take some of AlamedaInsiders’ pills, toss back some Jack & take the DC Madam way out.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:09 pm
DeBartolo Raider: TW just smoked you. You come here saying the same thing over and over and over and over and you expect different results. Everyone knows your little game. Everyone here laughs and pisses all over you. don’t you have any self respect??
May 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
you were born inthe wrong position wrong day wrong time
May 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Raider TW, I’m a Raider fan.
Alameda Insider is a pill popping drunk, flip flopping on practically a daily basis, and getting his “inside” predictions wrong at about a 100% rate. Why should I take his advice?
And, only someone who believes in Al Davis would also believe the DC madam actually killed herself. No surprise, there.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
only 1 roller here
May 1st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
HolyRoller, sssssshhhhhhhh, if he had any self respect he won’t take the DC Madam course.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:13 pm
HolyRoller, TW didn’t smoke anything. He’s just another Davis homer whining about my being here.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:14 pm
blog faker flash time huh???
May 1st, 2008 at 2:15 pm
talking to u maddenfaker!!
May 1st, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Per the LA Daily News UCLA lineman Shannon Tavega and Noah Sutherland have been invited to training camp. Both played under Tom Cable when he coached o-line/offense at ucla. Under Cable, Tavega was projected as a high draft pick. Two o-line coaches later he is a free agent signing.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Maddenraider says:
Like I said, though, you won’t catch fans of winning teams wasting their time with it. So what does that tell you?
10 minutes after they lost the AFC Championship game, there were 4 Chargers fans blogging away. What does that tell you??? It tells you their fans suck. That’s what it tells you. Here, months after another losing season we have hundreds of fans blogging every day. We have a great fan base. DeBartolo Raider, you’re not one fo them.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Sorry, TW, I now realize you were telling me to take the Alameda Insider “path”, as opposed to any advice of his. But, the answer’s no. I’m going to drop in from time to time and talk about this organization. If you don’t like it, I’m always open for debate. Or, you can just ignore me. You’re whining about me being here isn’t going to accomplish anything. See Huff’s lecture about trying the same things over and over…
May 1st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
if u ever are willing 2 buy a chiefs jersey u are a puss faker
May 1st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
HolyRoller, are you coming undone already?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
i live undone and off the grid
May 1st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
I’m buying a Dorsey jersey, to protest Davis’s lousy drafting. Then I’m going to tear off the Chiefs logo. That’s correct. Killing two birds with one stone. Who knows, I may wear it to a game this year.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Obviously, Holy. Just don’t get mad when I mock you for it.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
fake
May 1st, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Raider fan? Who was the Running back from Colgate with the Raiders in 1968?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:19 pm
and get ko ed like every other chief fan wearing 1
May 1st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Holy Roller, routinely discussing issues that have nothing to do with why this team is losing is not being a great fan, it’s being a homer in denial.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY TALKING NATION FOOTBALL
May 1st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Holy Roller, I’m real scared, internet tough guy.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:22 pm
RaiderTW, how many Raider fans do you believe could answer that question off the bat, especially today’s homers?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Yeah, I wasn’t too thrilled with the draft, but we’ll win at least three more games this season just by NOT having Josh McCown around.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
The ones born before 1960. Marv Hubbard #44
May 1st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
RaiderTW..I believe that is Marv Hubbard
May 1st, 2008 at 2:25 pm
And, Roller, just so you know, I was at the ‘97 Monday Nighter vs. KC, when they torched us at the very end. I was on the top deck, right above the black hole. The beer cups pelting Rison as him and the Queefs danced in the end zone were from our section. Moments later, there’s a Chief fan walking through the parking lot with a bright red, shining Chief jersey, yucking it up while walking past everyone. Nobody did anything. And, actually, I think that’s a good thing. You can’t condone thuggery and then complain when the press labels the Raider Nation as thugs. Truth is, most Raider fans are good people, and would get the Dorsey jersey joke. For those that don’t? I’m not afraid of them.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
1 and only
May 1st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I have a trivia question, TW. Which former Raiders personnel assistant built a Super Bowl champion in the 1990s as GM of the Green Bay Packers, in a decade where the Raiders couldn’t crack the 8 win mark?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Whats up Sac Raider.
If ,,oops I mean when we win 11 games, I think other teams will try to push up on him. He’ll be the new pretty girl that all the guys compete for, he’ll be tempted (silently) but he will have a chance to become the man who brought back the Raiders to respectability again. Plus the action fan support will be too strong allow Al Davis to let Kiffin go. He will become the new face of the Raiders. Remember to get some Keep Kiffin T-shirts made and wear the to the games. I hope Im right. Peace Sac.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I must agree with Saint and Tommy, the two most likely UFAs to make the roster are:
Adam Spieker: Because we are not settled on the back-up to John Wade and because Speiker was a real powerhouse in the middle of the Missouri Oline. I was staggered that he wasn’t drafted. If he responds to Cable’s methods and fits the scheme, I think he could replace the less-than-stellar Mr Groves.
Greyson Gunheim: Because we need cover for Burgess and Richardson and because he has the physique. We hear all the good things about his character, the issue is whether he simply is a good enough footballer to play at the proLevel. The fact that Keith Millard got so involved to bring him to Alameda must mean he has a chance.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Rick The Hunter, I wish I could share your optimism on Kiffin’s longevity as HC. But it’s obvious you haven’t been paying attention to what’s been going on with this team since January. Or, you’re in denial of it.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
i am a fan just think the way u go about it is u just want attention and just cuz i dont bow down to your ? asking fake name entering and the troll tendencies u still get the attention u so die 4 dont complain u set yourself up
May 1st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Maybe those fans didn’t do anything but if I see you with that Chiefs jersey, Well Let’s just say the story ends with that jersey hangin out of your can
May 1st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Your cyber tough talk is just chilling, Runnin with 20. About as intimidating as Al DAvis’s won/loss record since Super Bowl 37.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
HolyRoller, you’re no longer making since. Put on some coffee.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
“making sense”. Guess I’m not, either. But at least I’m not drunk this early in the day, like you obviously are, HolyRoller. Sober up. Come back tonight when your head’s clear.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
gunhiem all the way hell make the team
May 1st, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Post 77 you are right.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
excatly raider 20 he hasnt seen or been to enough raider chief games to know you dont wear achefs jersey in the O
May 1st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
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May 1st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
always sober
May 1st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
He will learn soon enough!
May 1st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
MR Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Raider TW, I’m a Raider fan.
Oh my God!!! After almost vomiting, I have laughed myself silly.
I know thousands of Raider Fans and Raider Fans Do Not:
1) Habitually Whine
Sh** their own bed
2) Only talk about everything Wrong with the Raiders
3) Blame Al Davis for everything wrong in the world
4) Would wear Chiefs gear
5) Lie
6) Steal other identities
7) Steal other identities over and over and over
9) Fight when their opponents back is turned
10) Do not have an ounce of trustworthiness in their bodies
11) Have no pride
12) Have no poise
13) Meltdown worse than Chernobyl
14) Are insidious in every way
May 1st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Imagine all the feathers from his Chiefs headdress scattered on the floor in THE BLACK HOLE! I hope you bring you Tomahawk! WOAH O OH WOAH O OH! LMFAO
May 1st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
HolyRoller, I’m just telling you what I saw. Granted, this was 1997 and back in those days you had a lot more real Raider fans, as opposed to so many of the young wannabe thugs that like the Raiders just for the unis, and that they have “Oakland” in their name, like “Runnin with 20″.
Wannabe thugs don’t scare me, anyway. Believe me, I’ll be at a game this year with my Dorsey jersey, with the chief emblem ripped off. I’m 6′3″, weigh 270, and am in decent shape for my mid 30’s. My last street fight was 7 years ago, but I do spar at the gym on occasion and I am in shape for it. Whatever wannabe thug takes a shot at me, I hope he knows how to fight. But I doubt anything will happen. A lot of these wannabe thug Raider fans are just that, wannabe thugs. All talk. Real thugs don’t take sports seriously. They just go to the games to have a good time. They’ve got enough on their plate with hood business. Whoever confronts me, I know they’ll be easy to handle.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
I’m down w/ Greyson G too.. I think he’ll be a steal for sure… not to mention he’s fairly local… from Sonoma co.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Excerpts of Kiffen’s interview on SIRIUS yesterday, on Jason Jones’ SACBEE site. They won’t let me put the address up. You guys have it any way right?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Well MR I’ve got news for you!
I’m Chuck Norris!
May 1st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
LOL, sure, Runnin with 20. With all of the smack you talk on the web, you’re probably more like Irkle.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:48 pm
I am #1 in the world in the art of defending the tomahawk attack. Even when blinded by feathers
May 1st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Your Link: http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/
May 1st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Irkle! LMAO
Good One
HA HA HA HA HA
May 1st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
A read headed bearded Irkle ! HA HA HA HA
May 1st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Inserting a Chiefs jersey in your can.
LMFAO
May 1st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Players under threat. Some 2007 Roster members who should be worried:
John Madsen: We know he has talent, we know he can catch and has good speed. But he is still a weak blocker and Kiff and Knapp don’t seem to have the greatest confidence in him.
Jake Grove: Too many injuries, to many missed opportunities. Clearly has talent but has never been the stud we thought/hoped he would become. Will be pressed had by Spieker and Boone for the No2 Center role.
Johnnie Lee Higgins: Great speed but looked like a rabbit in the headlights on the pitch. He should improve after another off-season but the competition has got much, much tougher.
Sam Williams: Lost out to Robert Thomas last season and never threatened the starting line-up. Another big disappointment - all the tools but not the instincts or the apparant desire.
Stuart Schweigert: Nice Guy, tries hard but doesn’t make the big plays and showed a worrying weakness in the tackle. Wilson, Branch and Baker have all joined the squad and Schweigert needs to really impose himself in camp to stand a chance of making the 53.
Chris Johnson: This has to be the breakthrough year for Johnson. Hall and Asomugha are set to start, Routt is the nickel and the prime backup CB. John Bowie will press for the next spot, leaving Johnson competing with Waddell and Starks. They are both proven vets and we need experience. Johnson needs a great camp.
Tony Stewart: John Wakefield will be fit and pressing hard for the blocking TE role. Stewart needs to hold him off and convince Kiff that a 3rd TE is a better than a 4th RB. Tough ask.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
LOL.
At the games this year, look around for the Dorsey jersey with the Chief emblem torn off, Runnin with 20. It’s me. I’ll buy you a beer. Believe me, when you see me you’ll realize I’m the wrong person to pick a fight with. But I am a decent guy, and forgive easily.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Now that would be a sight to see!
Talk about getting famous on youtube imagine if you broadcasted that
May 1st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Cool with me MR,
I’ll be back later have a good one guys, you too MR
LMAO
Chuck Irkle
May 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Hey, the phone cams will be rolling. But if you’re coming at me with violence on your mind, just realize it’s not going to be me looking stupid on youtube.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Alright, Chuck. LOL.
May 1st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
MR Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Raider TW, I’m a Raider fan.
Oh my God!!! After almost vomiting, I have laughed myself silly.
I know thousands of Raider Fans and Raider Fans Do Not:
1) Habitually Whine
Sh** their own bed
2) Only talk about everything Wrong with the Raiders
3) Blame Al Davis for everything wrong in the world
4) Would wear Chiefs gear
5) Lie
6) Steal other identities
7) Steal other identities over and over and over
9) Fight when their opponents back is turned
10) Do not have an ounce of trustworthiness in their bodies
11) Have no pride
12) Have no poise
13) Meltdown worse than Chernobyl
14) Are insidious in every way
……
15) But most importantly, tell the truth about Al Davis, and how his management of this team keeps it below the 5 win mark.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I’ll admit, Oak, I’m not like most of the Raider fans who post here and hang out with you. But I’ve seen for myself that the majority of Raider fans in the real world are just like me. Fed up with Al Davis’s management, aren’t afraid to say it, and shake off the Davis homers like fleas.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Alright Nation, 4 months of draft talk put me behind at work, so it took me a couple of days to catch up, but now I am back…what are we talking about these days?
May 1st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
im sick of hearing from everyone that we need o-line. I mean sure theres room to improve but we are in good shape with this crew. with one solid year of the zbs behind us we should be even better. last year every team we played knew we would run the ball 80% the time and we still did it effectively. Now with our obvious upgrades in our skilled positions we are set for an exciting year.
PREDICTIONS:
-Our offense plays at a similar caliber to the 2006 raiders defense
-Our defense plays even better then the 2006 group b/c there on the feild lot less of the time with our improved offense
-finish the season 10-6 with a wild card berth. dont count out taking the division from the chargers who i thinking tossed there chances away with there head coach hire
-LAST PREDICTION: I FEEL BAD FOR THE TEAMS THAT FALL BEHIND EARLY TO US AND HAVE TO PASS ON THAT SECONDARY, I HONESTLY CAN’T SEE WHERE A HOLE WILL BE……. (BESIDES THE BLACK HOLE)
IM OUT
May 1st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Dakota Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Alright Nation, 4 months of draft talk put me behind at work,
……….
I did notice the drive though line at Carl’s Jr. was pretty long for the past 4 months…
Joking, Dakota. I’m sure you make more than me.
Anyhow, I’m out.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
MR,,
Im not in denial at all. Ive paid attention like everyone here on this blog. Every losing NFL team has tension with owners and coaches, thats why every year sports shows always have the coaches on the hot seat segments. The thing is its Al Davis’ Raiders so it’ll be magnified and blown out of control. Kiffin’s still here so it proved to be more headlines than actual truth. Plus the off season signings and the draft is suspose to bring out optimism for the team as well as the fans. Thats why rather than take shots at fellow fans I choose to share optimism with my Raider fans including you my man. PEACE!
May 1st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Dakota Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Alright Nation, 4 months of draft talk put me behind at work,
……….
I did notice the drive though line at Carl’s Jr. was pretty long for the past 4 months…
Joking, Dakota. I’m sure you make more than me.
Anyhow, I’m out.
_______________________________________________________
I work at the Kum and Go, not Carl’s Jr!
May 1st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Madden Raider, are you on the internet again? Your going to have to get out of my basement and get a job. i have some pills to take..
Love,
Your Mom.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Jeez…we couldn’t sign an undrafted FA defensive tackle? Why does it seem to me that the one area that we needed the most attention is the one area that we have ignored the most? I guess Turd Sands and Tommy Kelly are going to be the answer. I hope so.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Hello…anyone out there???? Did MR scare everyone off again, or is there simply nothing to talk about?
Go Lakers!
Draft Fili!
May 1st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
??????????
May 1st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Should have drafted Dorsey.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Is # 20 DMAC`s official number?…or a number to have during mini`s til he decides on one?
May 1st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
I dont think mr scared any one off. I think people are logging on to talk about Raider football and all people see is ridiculous threats being made on a computer. Its a bad look, imature, and just plain stupid. Funny at times but still stupid. So here’s an idea,, talk about football without the high school antics. PEACE!
May 1st, 2008 at 3:39 pm
I have a question for Kiff about my boy.
Is there any hope for Andrew in your system?
If not and he is actually worse then DC and McCown then you are probaly screwed if you go into the season with him as your backup.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
MaddenRaider weren’t going to quit coming to this website? The fact that you’re gonna buy a Chiefs’ jersey tells us all about you.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Listen to Rick the Hunter. Yeah, did I want Dmac??? No, I actually wanted Sedrick Ellis who New Orleans traded up to get. The Saints already had two first rounders on the line in Smith and Grant when they went for Ellis. Have they been to the playoffs recently??? Well, they played in the NFC Championship game two years ago, so they have to be doing something right. Am I pissed beyond belief??? No, I agree with the choice and I agree with Rick that you have to be optimistic at this time in the year. Now if we had the overall number 4 and it went down like this:
Roger Goodell steps to the podium.
Goodell: “With the number four selection, the Oakland Raiders select, Aljozy Treblinka, Holder, Volograd Punchers, Russian League of American Football.”
Gasps from the crowd in Radio City Music Hall.
ESPN’s Mel Kuiper: “Whoah, we have the first surprise of the draft!! Treblinka is a 5′9″, 155lb, holder out of the Czech Republic. In four years Treblinka has never blown a hold, and in the Russian Federation Championship game, threw a touchdown on a botched snap that is still talked about as the greatest play in Russian League American Football history.”
Now if Davis did that…..We’d all be parading out side the Alameda facility with torches and pitchforks. I wanted Ellis. Jesus, we drafted Darren McFadden. What am I to do?? Cry?? Darren’s a great choice, and he is going to really help the team win. Should I be optimistic like Rick the Hunter??? Hell yeah!!!
May 1st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I don’t think Grove ever played an entire season since he got in the league.??.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Exactly, McDonald posts an article about jersey numbers and yet MaddenRaider posts under his 20th name about how Al Davis is horrible, and so many people think like him–which is scary–. Probably because this is all he can do.
May 1st, 2008 at 3:59 pm
MRS, there are about 10 people on this blog that consistently agree with MaddenLoser. Sadly, they’re all him posting under different names.
May 1st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Terrapin I think Grove actually played the entire 06 season. Not that that’s a good thing.
May 1st, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Maybe ..but you know the 2006 season was one someone hopes to forget.
May 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Kiffin speaks
Since I don’t have SIRIUS NFL Radio, I rely on transcripts to be emailed to me, like the following from Raiders coach Lane Kiffin’s appearance on “Movin’ The Chains” with Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan yesterday.
The following are excerpts from the interview.
On Raiders QB JaMarcus Russell:
Lane Kiffin: “[His off-season] has been great. He’s working extremely hard. He’s here from about 7:30 in the morning until about 2:00 in the afternoon. He starts with football stuff in the classroom and then he goes into the weight room, lifts with the first group, and then goes out on the field and runs with them and then stays out and throws and goes through all the quarterback stuff on the field after that.”
On the team’s selection of RB Darren McFadden in last weekend’s NFL Draft:
Host, Pat Kirwan: “All kind of speculation that you were going to take [Glenn] Dorsey and you were going to do this that and the other thing. When it is all said and done was this the favorite all along for the boss and everybody else over there?”
Kiffin: “Yeah, we weren’t doing anything. The only thing we were doing was if Darren was gone we had a couple things pretty much in place to go back, to move down and pick up more picks because we didn’t have very many picks. But if Darren was there we were going with Darren. He’s a fabulous player and really gives us an added dimension to our offense and so we’ve got to look at a number of different ways to use him.”
Host, Tim Ryan: “Talk about some of those dimensions. Historically, I think the fans immediately start thinking of LenDale White and Reggie Bush from the USC days. Any of that type of stuff, pony backfield or whatever it is? Talk about what some of those possible roles may be for Darren McFadden.”
Kiffin: “There are a lot of things to looks at. One would be him back there with another one of our tailbacks. Another would be him outside the formation as a receiver. We did some of that with Reggie. But the thing we don’t want to do, and we kind of made that mistake with Reggie - and I think that Sean [Payton] would probably tell you they maybe did their first year with him, too - is with a guy like this there are so many things you get excited about but you don’t want to take away from what he’s there to do and that is to run the football and be back there in the I-formation. So we’ll look at a number of things but we do not want to hinder his progress as a true running back.”
On new WRs Drew Carter and Javon Walker:
Kiffin: “Drew Carter is just a fabulous worker in the way he goes about it and the way he’s in there watching tape and working. So we’re real excited about him. Gives us a big target, a 6′4″ guy. And then Javon is so explosive. We think that he’s going to be the best he’s been in years as far as health-wise and I know he’s excited about this upcoming season and to prove a lot of people wrong in his mind. So we think we’ve got him in a pretty good place right now.”
On 4th round draft pick Tyvon Branch:
Kiffin: “He’s going to be a safety for us and we hope he’s going to be a fabulous special teams player. He’s got all the tools to do that and he’s done that as he was younger and then also a kick returner, too. So we may look to put him back there as well so there are a lot of roles he can help us with.”
On the defensive line:
Tim Ryan: “Not taking Dorsey, how do you feel about your defensive line? Terdell Sands, Gerard Warren, how comfortable are you, Lane, and I guess you must be, that those guys are going to show up and be real consistent for you on the inside?”
Kiffin: “Yeah, they’re both here working out now. We’re going to need them to step up and play really well and play consistent along with Tommy Kelly. Those are three guys that have done some really good things at times for us. Now we need them to play more consistent and hopefully they can be dominant for us inside.”
On the running backs corps:
Pat Kirwan: “Most team would keep three running backs, barring injury. Some might keep a fourth but most don’t. Michael Bush must be really ready to go in every way for you to cut Dominic Rhodes.”
Kiffin: “Yeah, he really is. And it was a timing issue that helped Dominic as well. We really wanted to make sure that we did the right thing with Dominic. He didn’t get much chance to play last year. When he did, we started him two games, both games he went over a hundred yards and played really well for us. The way I look at it, to keep Dominic around just as an insurance policy really wasn’t fair to him after the way he played for us and also what he had done with his contract this off-season.”
Tim Ryan: “Do you feel like, as the head coach of that football team, in that building, in that organization up there in Alameda, do you guys all feel like you’re all on the same page, headed for the same thing?”
Kiffin: “Yeah, we’re headed for the same thing. We’re trying to win. Everybody here wants to win and so we’re doing our best to get that done.”
Pat Kirwan: “What’s the number one thing you feel like, going into your second year, you learned from your first-year experience?”
Kiffin: “Well, I think that you want everything to be so perfect right away, your off-season workouts and everything and a guy being in shape, a guy coming in a little bit out of shape. And as much as that doesn’t mean you still don’t stay on everything and look at everything, these guys, their bodies are a little different than college. They know their bodies well. Last year I got discouraged at this time of year when off-season program started because a lot of guys hadn’t done anything from the last game of the year. Well, in college that doesn’t happen. They’re working out the next week. As opposed to getting down on it right away and worrying about your team and your players and stuff you give them more time to get back into shape before you completely evaluate them.”
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/archives/012291.html
May 1st, 2008 at 4:15 pm
They should give McFadden his jersey with the number sewn-on backwards…
…so when he looks in the mirror, it reminds him that he’s only 20-years-old, and he needs to stay away from the bars.
May 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
#20, means 20 million guaranteed! You got that, Al?
May 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
that ain’t Koolkell. you shouldn’t post under his name
May 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Does anybody sense a change in tone with Kiffin when he talks to the media now as opposed to last year?
Does anybody sense a change in media availability of Raider personnel as opposed to last year?
May 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Theres definitely more access to personnel this year it seams… I like it… I’m so looking forward to training camp…and the “stories” from there
May 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Russell, Miller, Walker, Carter, McFadden, Bush, O’Neal …its hard not to get excited about the upcoming season.
One more thing I’ve always wanted to mention but keep forgetting: The team may have only moved from #32 to #25 statistically in Total Offense; but trust me man they made really significant progress. The ‘06 team was much worse than a 32nd ranking if you could imagine what I’m talking about. With the additions that were made this offseason along with a stable QB (hopefully no injury) I can definitely see this offense moving up another 10 spots by season’s end - that’s if the Oline holds.
May 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Add to that … Hall.. Nnamdi… Gibril…
May 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
I think so too Tonio, there seems to have been a change in Raider SOP’s re:media.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I think Sapp said it right when he said Al’s pushing for one last hurrah… while he’s around to see it… it’s showing in many ways… … he’s always ‘tried’ to do right by the team… getting whomever he can that he felt would help him “now” … but this year (and last’s experimental year) seems to be a push for sustained strength…as well as getting over the hump now…
May 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
I’m thinking Al Davis has indeed heard some of his critics, like me.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Here you go OakGlenn, just like I told you he was drafted to play safety not CB.
On 4th round draft pick Tyvon Branch:
Kiffin: “He’s going to be a safety for us and we hope he’s going to be a fabulous special teams player.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
lol KK… yeah… I’m sure he’s heard ya
Branch… … I’m thinking he’s gonna be good in a year or so… nickel back/safety
May 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
OakGlenn,
Who is stupid ? Who is the dumbest person in here?
Now that Kiffin has said “he will play safety for us” seems like its you that is stupid.
Oakglenn Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
We “think” he’s going to be…..
What is wrong with you brown????????? Are you just plain stupid??? You are the dumbest person in here. Look at what Ryan says. He’s never even seen Branch. Branch plays both. They’ll find a spot for him I’m sure. God damn you are dumb
May 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I think what you see in Kiffin is a young man who became a grown man over the past year. like any first time coach he went through growing pains, made dumb mistakes, found out that he still has a higher authority to answer to. He probably tried to pull the trigger too quick with the firing Rob Ryan thing and learned that before any coach makes a major personel move that you still gotta check with the boss. the media turned it into a drama movie, but I think him not talking for a minute even though we wanted to hear a response sooner was the best thing for him to do because you know the media will take your words and twist’em around to make it a hot story. Lesson learned. He’ll be that much better this year because they (media) tried to kill him but failed, and for that he’ll only be stronger. Get those Keep Kiffin shirts made. YA KNOW?!
May 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Here’s your growth shown Rick: “Kiffin: “Well, I think that you want everything to be so perfect right away, your off-season workouts and everything and a guy being in shape, a guy coming in a little bit out of shape. And as much as that doesn’t mean you still don’t stay on everything and look at everything, these guys, their bodies are a little different than college. They know their bodies well. Last year I got discouraged at this time of year when off-season program started because a lot of guys hadn’t done anything from the last game of the year. Well, in college that doesn’t happen. They’re working out the next week. As opposed to getting down on it right away and worrying about your team and your players and stuff you give them more time to get back into shape before you completely evaluate them.”
He’s learned … and learning still… we’re lucky for it
May 1st, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Last year, he wouldn’t even tell the fans/media who the QB was going to be on a Friday afternoon.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
He said McFadden will be a RB first and a general offensive threat later, that quote straight from kiffin just makes john clayton look stupid, which, considering his already Al Davis bobble-head-like appearance, doesn’t take very much, the same usually goes for BSPN in general………….
May 1st, 2008 at 5:36 pm
# Rick The Hunter Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
MR,,
Im not in denial at all. Ive paid attention like everyone here on this blog. Every losing NFL team has tension with owners and coaches, thats why every year sports shows always have the coaches on the hot seat segments. The thing is its Al Davis’ Raiders so it’ll be magnified and blown out of control. Kiffin’s still here so it proved to be more headlines than actual truth. Plus the off season signings and the draft is suspose to bring out optimism for the team as well as the fans. Thats why rather than take shots at fellow fans I choose to share optimism with my Raider fans including you my man. PEACE!
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Peace be unto you to, brother.
Now, to address your points:
Kiffin still being here does nothing to refute the stories by the press. The press reported he was drafted a resignation letter, and refused to sign. That’s it. Almost everything that has happened since indicates the likeliness of this report.
-Kiffin’s silence throughout most of the FA period.
-The Raiders signing malcontents like Hall and Walker, despite Kiffin being a believer in team chemistry.
-The Raiders drafting McFadden, despite Kiffin’s hinting that he didn’t want him.
-Rhodes’ comments to the press two days ago.
-Davis looking to hire a new cap specialist, a job presently held by Mark Jackson, a Kiffin guy.
Frankly, Hunter, I don’t see any indications that Kiffin is on board here. All of the moves we’re making are Al Davis moves, and anti Kiffin moves.
Kiffin is not here to be a puppet. He has made that clear from day one. He is not Norv Turner. He is not Art Shell. Yet at this point, judging by the moves the Raiders are making, he has even less control than they do. I don’t care what coaches he was allowed to hire. The results are all that count.
As far as optimism goes…I don’t believe it’s any more relevant that pessimism. It’s what’s realistic that matters. I don’t deal in emotion. I deal in reality.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:38 pm
# Dakota Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 3:12 pm
“I work at the Kum and Go, not Carl’s Jr!”
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At least your restaurant’s honest, because I’m certain Carl’s is serving up the same product…
May 1st, 2008 at 5:41 pm
# DC Madam Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Madden Raider, are you on the internet again? Your going to have to get out of my basement and get a job. i have some pills to take..
Love,
Your Mom.
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My mom’s a business women, but not like that. And, sorry about what happened to you, DC Madam. Let it be a lesson for Madams across the world to cut off all Republicans.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:42 pm
All you guys season ticket holders?..Im in section 114.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:42 pm
True indeed Tonio;
One thing about sports is that you never stop learning because the game is forever evolving. So yes he will continue to learn. I think the best thing he’s learned is how not to fall into the trap of the bloodsucking media. Yeah there’s still some issues to irom out in Oakland but you know the saying in sports; Winning cures everything. So once we start winning again everything will be all hugs and kisses, and I think the moves made this offseason gives him the best chance to prove all doubters wrong. YA KNOW?!
May 1st, 2008 at 5:43 pm
The Swarco Raiders are 3-1.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:44 pm
# MaddenRaider Slapper Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
MaddenRaider weren’t going to quit coming to this website? The fact that you’re gonna buy a Chiefs’ jersey tells us all about you.
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I said I’d check in on occasion. I never said how often. Why are you so bothered by it? Even naming yourself after me…wow. I’m flattered. Why can’t you just skip my post and go on to the next? Could it be because I’m right, and you feel you have to downplay my statements as damage control? If so, you poor thing….
And, I’m buying a Dorsey jersey and tearing off the chiefs emblem. It’s a protest move. I’m a Raider fan, as long as the team’s in Oakland. Come to terms with it.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:46 pm
The Media is not what stands in the way of the Raiders winning, everyone has to deal with the media. As far as I know the media does not run the Raiders’s franchise.
May 1st, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Adding to how bad our offense was in 2006, just compare the Raiders with the Browns at #31 that year and you can see how bad it was.
RNK NAME YDS YPG RUSH RUSH YPG PASS PASS YPG PTS PTS/G
31 Cleveland 4233 264.6 1335 83.4 2898 181.1 238 14.9
32 Oakland 3939 246.2 1519 94.9 2420 151.3 168 10.5
May 1st, 2008 at 5:46 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 3:59 pm
MRS, there are about 10 people on this blog that consistently agree with MaddenLoser. Sadly, they’re all him posting under different names.
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Oakglenn, I don’t think that many people care. There’s only a few people here who really get worked up by me, you being one of them. If anyone wants to know who’s doing the multiple posting, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to start there with you guys…
May 1st, 2008 at 5:49 pm
# KoolKell Says:
May 1st, 2008 at 5:46 pm
The Media is not what stands in the way of the Raiders winning, everyone has to deal with the media. As far as I know the media does not run the Raiders’s franchise.
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2-shay.
Al Davis’