Sapp on Al
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, May 2nd, 2008 at 5:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.
In an interview on Dan Patrick’s radio show Friday, former Raiders defensive tackle Warren Sapp was asked if Al Davis was still in control of the Raiders.
(I like Patrick, his sense of humor and his perspective, but it’s pretty clear he hasn’t spent much time examining the Raiders this offseason to even ask that question).
“Fully. When I went there a few months ago, no doubt about it. Sitting there, talking with him about my plans, right before the last game of the year, watching Randy Moss and Tom Brady go get a 16-0 record. He had a big-screen TV, and we were there watching it,” Sapp said. “He’s definitely in full control. Don’t kid yourself because you see the man in a walker. There’s nothing wrong with his brain.”
Sapp, one of the few Raiders who was critical of Randy Moss during his tenure with the Raiders, has a different view now.
“Tom Walsh was the offensive coordinator, he hadn’t called a play in this league in 12 years,” Sapp said. “You know your job would change, and we know the NFL has evolved into something totally different. We didn’t even have a three-step drop. C’mon, you know this game is timing, putting the ball in your great athletes’ hands and letting them work. It was crazy to watch the man get done like that and make those comments about him.”
Patrick asked if that wasn’t at least in part Davis’ responsibility, since he’s the boss and can mandate that Moss be utilized.
“Al Davis is in charge, but Al Davis don’t wake up until we’re halfway through practice,” Sapp said. “He’s on different hours. Al Davis is on Al Davis time.”
Sapp said he had two regrets in his career _ that he didn’t finish his career in Tampa and that he failed to reach 100 sacks, finishing with 98.5.
He said he is still on good terms with Jon Gruden, but blamed Monte Kiffin for his departure, explaining that it was Kiffin’s suggestion to sign Anthony McFarland to a big contract and that Gruden simply went along with it.
He also said he has no thoughts of coming back, even if Tony Dungy or Gruden were to come calling.
If Sapp were to consider coming back, any team that wanted him would have the Raiders to deal with. He is on the Oakland reserve/retired list and still property of the Raiders.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Yup.
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:15 pm
never
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:15 pm
deuce
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:16 pm
is Al in charge ? rhetorical question if i ever heard one
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Can we get a Grady Jackson update? Anyone have any “INSIDE” information about him?
P.S. - I can see Hartwell making the final roster, but I can also see him getting cut in camp. This move has Donovan Darius written all over it.
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:22 pm
The Buck stops at Al Davis’s desk.
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Grady Still out there, any takers?
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Sap rips into Mort ans BSPN. Go to SI and click on the Pat link. (from cnn)
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
CT -
The other day, One of the networks (can’t remember) reported the Raiders had talked to Grady. So far nothing has happened.
Bring back GRADY TRAIN!!!
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:50 pm
I guess this is probably old news, but according to ESPN, Marvin Harrison is involved in a serious shooting in a bar that he owns. The gun involved also belongs to Harrison, seven shots were fired from it and it was found in a bucket at a car wash that Harrison owns as well. Wow.
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3378829
This is some crazy news about Marvin Harrison.
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Riverside - You were quick to draw.
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Could Harrison be on Steroids perhaps? Maybe he has a personality disorder?
May 2nd, 2008 at 5:55 pm
RAIDERS NOT SNIFFING AROUND SAMIR
Posted by Mike Florio on May 2, 2008, 2:15 p.m.
In response to media reports that the Oakland Raiders are seriously considering hiring Rams front-office employee Samir Suleiman to handle cap compliance and contract negotiation, a source tells us that the Raiders have not talked to Suleiman about working for the team, and that he is not expected to be pursued for a position.
So what in the heck is going on?
Apart from the fact that the San Francisco Chronicle has reported that Suleiman is being considered for the job, Suleiman himself was quoted as expressing optimism that he’ll be hired. “It’s a great organization, so anybody would be lucky to work for them,” Suleiman said.
It could be that Suleiman is trying to leverage the Rams into giving him a better deal, or that he’s trying to spark interest from another team, like the Saints, who have yet to replace Russ Ball, who is now working for the Packers.
Regardless, it’s bizarre that Suleiman would be linked to a position in Oakland. Especially since there’s also no indication that the Raiders are even looking to hire someone to supplement (or to replace) the cap and contracts structure they currently have in place.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Sapp says Al Davis still has it upstairs, then rips the Raiders for not having a timing pass offense in ‘06. Evidently he hasn’t heard Al Davis’s views on timing routes. He hates them. He believes in the receivers defeating their coverage and getting open, and then having a qb with the arm to get the ball to them. Methinks Sapp knows this, but doesn’t want to bite the hand that feeds him…and owns him, if he’s considering a comeback.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Basically, I’ll translate Sapp’s comments as him saying that Al certainly does NOT have it upstairs. Every shot at Walsh was really a shot at Davis.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Even softball questions like “Is Al still in charge?” can get great responses, and Sapp didn’t disappoint.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Sapp fell off a while back I thought he was weak the whole time he was with us.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:14 pm
If anyone on the team melted-down when Shell/Walsh II was running it, I thought it would’ve been Sapp. Sapp proved a lot to me under that regime — that he was more of a team-player than I ever imagined he would be.
Too bad Moss didn’t keep the same attitude.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Mr is my sister. truth
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:20 pm
RR never used Sapp right — he seems to have a problem putting the right guys in the right place a lot.
This sounds like I’m the world’s biggest Sapp fan, but I’m not. But, he gave us a lot of effort, and stayed loyal to his team — when we were in as bad a condition of any team in NFL history.
Sapp was a good Raider, too bad the timing wasn’t right for him
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:22 pm
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May 2nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Sapp would have been alot better with more talent around him. Unfortunately, our offense sucked during his tenure and his defense was developing with young talent. His departure helped open up the check book however and it was just timing that Kiffin showed up at the time he did because Sapp is leaving at the wrong time for himself but the right time for this team. Its not important how good Sapp played on a bad team as much as its important how Kelly plays on a better team. Is Kelly as good as advertised? Thats what really matters. Sapp is yesterday’s news on yesterday’s bad team.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:26 pm
MaddenRaider Says:
November 1st, 2006 at 12:29 am
Yeh, you know, the media should have us pegged as Super Bowl favorites, because god knows that we never fall apart once we get rolling…
Our offensive philosophy is still a joke. Still forcing deep when we have windows underneath, for first downs in many cases. The old man is still tinkering with game plans.
Rob Ryan is obviously a breath of fresh air. He, his defense, and Bill Cowher deciding to play Rosthesberger are to credit for this win. I like what I see in our defense, but until they keep us in a game vs. a good offense with a healthy qb, the jury’s still in.
Plus…let’s say our defense does turn out to be good in the latter of the season? That means Ryan is now in demand. That means Al Davis will eventually have to pay him when his contract is up. We know how well that’s gone for this organization in recent years. Just, please, Al, don’t trade him to a team we might have to play in the Super Bowl.
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
MR - Do you like the band Tool?
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:06 pm
So I guess it’s true.
Watch out for the quiet ones.
Marvin has 25 guns registered in his name, owns a bar, a car wash??? Would have never guessed it.
Think he’s got a 2nd family caged up in the basement too?
I hope it was a Pats fan. I guess I could see that!!
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Why are we still talking about Sapp? Seriously, he is yesterday’s news. Give the man the opportunity to say something ignorant and he will run with it. Same old ignorant, goat mouth, country dumb Warren Sapp.
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Sapp had to have a dominant DT who could plug up 2-3 lineman and give him room like he did with TB.
If he didn’t like he did with us (Sands, etc), he was horrible against the run but a good pass rusher.
Had Sands played up to his contract last year we wouldn’t be talking of Sapp’s retirement as he probably would’ve had another career year had he had a Haynesworth/K Williams type DT to hide his stats against the run.
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
#24 — MR, what’s the point? To show us you were wrong about Ryan 2-years ago?
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:42 pm
DSM, I agree. Sapp could still be playing in the right system, with the right players around him. RR blew it.
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:48 pm
So Warren Sapp’s the official spokesman for the Raiders now huh? It seems the sports reporters want to get more dirt on the Raiders so who better to ask than the one who’ll never bite his tongue. What Dan should’ve asked Warren is if he was a big reason the Raiders run D was so terrible being that teams ran right up the middle most of the time. I still got a lot of respect for him though. 11 wins. Keep Kiffin.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Anonymous who pulled up my post from 2 years ago:
Had a car that ran well in ‘06, too. Thought it was a steal. Same car started having all kinds of problems in ‘07. Now I’m not satisfied with it, and shopping around for a new one. How contradicting of me, huh?!? There goes my credibility…
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Huff24, post 12:
Just a lucky draw. I guess I fell into it.
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Another Stupid Raiders Penalty, #27:
What a great name for a post. Your name is so right on.
If we could just be more disciplined and cut our penalties in half, we could add another game to our win column.
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Talking about another win for us. Isn’t it a FACT that since Norv Turner is coaching another year for the dischargers, that that’s an automatic, extra, loss or two for their team. Norv has no rapor with his players, he keeps himself at a distance and relegates
direct contact to his players through his coaches. Norv is a loser and he’ll find a way to bring the discharges, DOWN, DOWN AND DOWN. You can take that to the bank.
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Also, Huff24, Bob Marley, TT, Assassine or anyone
Has anyone hear what has happen to Marty. Does he plan to come back to coaching? If he does, I hope it’s in a different division. I hated him when he was a Cooks coach, as he usually found a way to beat us, and the same when he was a dischargers coach. At the same time I hated him, I surely RESPECTED HIM. He could sure game plan against us. I’ll give him credit for than
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:11 pm
And Marley, since you were the one infamous for fishing out old posts of mine, and you were the first one I noticed trying to hang me up on my flip flop over Ryan (and I’ll admit, it is a flip flop. I thought the guy was the real deal), I think it would be fair for me to ask if the person posting as MaddenRaider is you?
Rather it is or not, since you’ve openly signed onto the theory that my credibility here is done due to my change of view on Ryan, let me ask; How?
Do you realize how many Raider fans thought Rob Ryan was good in ‘06? How many were naturally fooled by the impressive numbers, not paying attention to the fact that opposing offenses were calling off the dogs early on us? More than half of the people posting here went the same way I did on Ryan.
Anyhow, whatever works for you, man. And if it’s not you, then let me say, whatever works for you and the two or three other people that are posting as anonymous (mockingly as MaddenRaider), and fishing up old posts of mine. I’m not going anywhere. I’ll remain a fan of this team as long as they’re in Oakland. And until the team starts to show real improvement in the win column, my blame goes top-down, starting with Dysfunctional Al. You guys are just going to have to calibrate yourselves around that.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Hey MR..I’m a life long Raider Fan…Good Times Bad Times…whatever…The Last thing I would ever do is “calibrate” my thoughts…feelings…opinions around You.
You are certainly entitled to Your opinion and are free to post as You please, but this blog is certainly not about you.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:19 pm
# HayesDaze#37 Says:
May 2nd, 2008 at 7:39 pm
#24 — MR, what’s the point? To show us you were wrong about Ryan 2-years ago?
…..
That wasn’t me who posted today under MaddenRaider. But, the post pulled up from 2 years ago (as you can see from the stamp in the post), is. I thought Rob Ryan was good. What can I say? I fall into that small minority of about 80% of the Raider Nation that thought the same thing of him. We are such contradicting fools, aren’t we? No credibility, what so ever.
But….
The homers in here that insisted Art Shell would “bring back the toughness”, and to “mark” their “words on it”? Credibility is still in tact. Marley hasn’t said a word about them yet…
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:22 pm
RaiderLen, it was more directed at whoever’s pulling up my posts. They’re obviously trying to discourage me from posting here. I’m staying. End of story. The fact that I’m not leaving is what they need to calibrate themselves around. And, I stated that pretty clearly. Either you’re having trouble with the old attention span tonight, or you’re disingenuously putting words into my mouth. Either way, who cares? Keep it coming. If I really couldn’t take the heat here, I would stop posting. No offense, but you guys aren’t the sharpest Al worshippers I’ve debated with. I come here because most of the time I think Jerry’s spot on. Debating with you guys? Compared to some pretty hard core Davis guys at some of the fan sites? Sparring practice.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Mr..LOL… keep punching at shadows
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:26 pm
# Huff24 Says:
May 2nd, 2008 at 6:38 pm
MR - Do you like the band Tool?
……
Assuming your implication is that I’m some sort of “tool” (and it was brilliant comic relief, Huff), who am I a tool for, and how?
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:28 pm
I’m not punching at shadows. Somebody is posting the stuff, and they know I’m talking to them.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Whatever commitment Art Shell made to Tom Walsh back in the day, when Shell brought Walsh in as OC the last time around, Shell was writing checks with other people’s money (including ours).
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Sure, GRaider. Absolve Dysfunctional Al of all accountability, until we actually win more than 4 games. Then it’s all Al…
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:40 pm
10 wins kiff stays SB in 3
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:42 pm
I predict 8 wins.what do you guys think?
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Easy there.
One (41) doesn’t follow from the other (42). I think there’s a share of responsibility, although many critics constantly complain about the owner’s frequent role in selecting assistant coaches.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:43 pm
lamont has to go!! he is a p.o.s
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:43 pm
yyyyaaaaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:44 pm
All Big AL’s fault MR? What a Raider hater. How can winning only 4 games be all Big AL’s fault? The coaches and players had no part in the losses, right?
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
MR — you’re contradicting yourself here…
You supported RR — I did and do, too, but he shoulda been fired already — and Al hired and re-hired RR.
Had RR been the real deal, had the team been better, and had the defense played to their potential, you’d be loving Al like the days of old.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Candidly, if — before the season starts — you don’t expect at least 10 wins, what’s the point of being a fan?
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
anybody?????
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Joshyfan…lamont will be traded, or after June 1st…be cut
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:52 pm
being modest sorry. of course they can win 10! da!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:53 pm
What I’ve found is that most Raider haters get most of their hate from the Raider hating media. The media will find every negative angle it can find or if one isn’t readily available it will create one. The haters become consumed with this hatred and do nothing but spread that crap to anyone who will listen. The fact is the Raiders are still one the winningest franchises in pro football, despite our last five seasons. Just something the Raider haters want you to forget.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:54 pm
McFadden #20 ……..i was thinking 32
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Josh — If Lamont isn’t gone real soon, he’ll re-do his deal like Rhodes. Then, he’ll be traded or cut.
G — nothing wrong with hoping to win every game, but being realistic about it. If these guys show they’re competitive early, then I’ll actually believe they can win every game they play before it’s played.
Until then, to say 10-wins even before they’ve seen the field together is way premature. If we’re 8-8, and the team’s on the rise at the end of the year, this will have been a good season.
10-wins would be one of the greatest turn-arounds in history, and it sure would be sweet.
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
after kiffen is fired next year! who will be the new coach???
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
# HayesDaze#37 Says:
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:46 pm
MR — you’re contradicting yourself here…
You supported RR — I did and do, too, but he shoulda been fired already — and Al hired and re-hired RR.
Had RR been the real deal, had the team been better, and had the defense played to their potential, you’d be loving Al like the days of old.
………
You get dumber with each post.
Of course I’ll love Al when we win. Heck, I’ll love him when we lose, for a couple of years and if I can see clearly that he’s doing what it takes to win.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
james Lofton !!!! LOL !!!
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Joshyfan…Kiffin will be the coach…imo if not Knapp?, Lofton?, Cable?
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
# joshyfan Says:
May 2nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
after kiffen is fired next year! who will be the new coach???
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Probably Norv Lofton.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:02 pm
MR — so, again, what is your point? You’re so boring with the same old crap over and over in here. ZZZzzzz.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Now I get it, HayesDayz…
I’m arguing with someone who thinks we’ll win 10 games this year. You’re nuts.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:04 pm
sapp was a decent raider but whos taking his spot Sands!! come on .
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:04 pm
So here’s a topic: How soon will DMac line up as a receiver? Will it be wide or in the slot?
Kiffen says he will bring DMac along steadily, one thing at a time. That starts with running the ball, which necessarily includes pass blocking. Next is working on passes out of the backfield. Will that be safety valve work? Or designs with DMac as the primary target? If the latter, don’t the WRs have to go downfield to open space underneath?
I’m guessing that by late 2nd or early 3d quarter of the first game against Denver, we will see DMac split wide (with Bush or Fargas at RB). We need speed to open up the running game and to take advantage of Russell’s cannon. It’s too easy to obstruct the slot. A fly pattern is not so complex that we need to run it is pre-season. I’d like to see the battle of Bailey or Bly trying to bump DMac and then to keep pace.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:05 pm
If I’m so boring, why do you feel so compelled to respond to every single comment of mine?
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:05 pm
nice MR
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Here’s your M.O. MR:
You regurgitate something about Al (that we’ve all seen and heard before), then wait for somebody to step up so you can spar with them. But, you never say anything!
Then, when you’re confused for things to say, you start calling names. Oww.
What a fan.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm
And, what is your point? That we’ll win 10 games, HazeDaze? Half of your name is right. You are dazed and confused if you think Norv Lofton will lead Javon Talker and co. to more than 4 wins, let alone 10, while Kiffin’s hands are tied.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:07 pm
GRaider, get a life.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:08 pm
HazeDaze, you said I was boring, remember? So scroll along and don’t respond. It’s hard for me to believe that you think I’m boring when you respond to every single comment I submit. Seems to me I’m quite exciting to you. I certainly strike a nerve. Don’t be so easy to control.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:08 pm
hey thats not me
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:08 pm
MR — get your targets straight…I never said we’d win 10. Could it happen? Why not, it’s been done before. Ask the Rams if things can turn around quickly.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
quit posting in my name
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Back at ya, Paine. I’m out.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Who the heck does crap like that
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm
I was just at the sissy discharger site. Man thier site sucks. A was readeing what happended earlier today. It seems like a member of the NATION went in and got hammered. we need to do a planned site invasion one day. Were we all go in and lambaste those arrogant B@sTurds. ……I hate the dischargers hope they move to the pacific ocean
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Hazed And Confused,
even suggesting that we could win 10 games is insane. Yeh, you could hit the Super Lotto, too. You won’t. And, the Raiders will not win 10 games this year, not with this chaos in the organization and our needs, like run stoppers, never being addressed this off season.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Again MR, get your facts straight. I didn’t do the predicting. Methinks you just wanna argue with somebody. What, is your mirror broke?
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
I said we would win 10, i wil stand by that. If we dont i will come in and say hey we will be back next year, but we have to fvCkin beat the dischargers…
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
G-Raider: I never complained when I saw your name pop up a few weeks ago. I’ve been on this blog from the outset. I have always been interested in posts on football — not the rash of insults.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:13 pm
there is a G-raider imposter my only post today was that Sapp was weak.. the fake G posted everything else screw that guy…
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
I heard about you you’re a loser
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:15 pm
I should post some of the s#!t that the dischagers silly bandwagon fans post. That should get you guys to not focus so much on tearing each other up but tearing up the real enemies.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm
The funny thing is when a pathetic SOB posts in more than one name — then starts to argue with himself, just to get a thread started. That’s lonely and sad.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm
SB in 3
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:17 pm
give me the website
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:18 pm
I’ve been Hazed and Confused,
for so long it’s not true..
I think the Raiders will win 10 games,
I’m also so high I’ll eat a shoe…
Led Zeppelin 1. Great album.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Thec, I took the liberty of correcting some of your grammatical mistakes. I hope you don’t mind.
I was just at the sissy discharger site. Man their site sucks. I was reading what happened earlier today. It seems like a member of the NATION went in and got hammered. We need to do a planned site invasion one day. Where we all go in and lambaste those arrogant bastards. ……I hate the dis-chargers and hope they move to the Pacific Ocean
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Hazed and confused, grow a sack, would ya? Don’t do the Oakglenn thing and start accusing people of posting under multiple names whenever you get owned. So what if they are? Attack their points you disagree with. Believe me, every time I debate in here it’s against people posting under like 5 different names. I don’t complain. I’ll kick all 5 of their asses.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Raiders will win 10 games this year, I am so convinced I will put money on it!!!!
SB in 3 will double down on that to.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:20 pm
G-Raider (18 and 82):
I have to agree with your comment on Sapp. A couple years ago, I refused to believe he was done. It was fun to see him break out for a while last year, but then it fizzled.
The shame is that if Sands had shown up to camp in shape and played to his potential at NT, we might have seen a little bit more from Sapp at 3-technique (that is, against the pass if not the run).
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:21 pm
MR, that is rich. Pure comic genius. You are the Weird Al of this blog. Kudos.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Paine I admit my typing sucks!!!!! No excuses
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 pm
OWNED? By MR??? What a pathetic joke you are. Scroll up and see that I never predicted 10-wins, and pick something else to argue about. You are so stubborn. Once again…you just wanna argue, but don’t say anything.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 pm
If I’m the Weird Al of this blog, that would make you guys the teletubbies.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Thec, I understand. We all make mistakes. But, it is unprofessional to submit your work without first having proofread it.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Paine, I have to admit it does read better when you typed it
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 pm
What does that even mean MR (post #96). I think maybe you are getting tired. Your usual caustic wit seems to be lacking tonight.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Paine, Your right thats why I have a secretary. We need to get spell check on this site. But no excuses bro. Hey paine didnt you and i get onto about this before?
Anyway after reading what i read about the radiers on the discharger site i am not going to take anything personal on this blog.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 pm
come on MR, the usual stuff is annoying, but you just ruined one of the top 10 songs in the history of music…………WTF
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Hazed and Confused, you are owned because you keep back peddling on the 10 wins. You’re now saying we “could” win 10 games. Yeh, sure, a flying saucer can land in the coliseum during the 7th inning stretch of the next A’s home game, too.
And, for the umpteenth time, Dazed, it wouldn’t be an argument if you didn’t respond. How boring can I possibly be when you respond to every single post of mine? Are you responding to me out of pride? Do you honestly think you’re sticking up for yourself? My god, with the dumb points you’re making, you would go much further to defend yourself if you didn’t say a word. Every time you post you reveal more of your stupidity.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Yes we did Thec, I occasionally like to provide some constructive criticism. Unfortunately, Mr. Tommy Trojan does not seem to appreciate it so much.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:30 pm
I’ve been Hazed and Confused,
for so long it’s not true…
MaddenRaider, you’re boring..
But I keep responding to you..
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Paine I cantake it from you guysno prob, but from a discharger, cooks or donkey fan will spit a lot of venom at them.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
The D-line is already there. we’re a Grady Jackson away from being the baddest…Burgess, Joseph, Warren, Kelly, Richardson, Edwards, Al is doing what he can with the D-line…free agent pool was slim…and these rook D-linemen don’t make an impact until they have time to catch up to the speed of the game…and I know I left someone out of the D-line rotation so anyone feel free to add who I left out… this year will be a new year…and we won’t be punked on the run this time around
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Paine I can take it from you guys no prob, but from a discharger, cooks, or donkey fan I will spit a lot of venom at them.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Have a good night Thec.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 pm
What’s that song, the Supremes, is it?
You keep me hangin’ on….
MaddenRaider,
set me free, why don’t you babe.
Get out my life, why don’t you babe.
(ooh oooh ooh oooh)
Cause you don’t really love the Raiders
But you keep us hanging on…
We try to ignore you…
But you keep us hanging on…
Ooo ooh oooh ooh.
LOL.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 pm
MR — twisting other peoples’ posts to support your weak arguments won’t help.
See post #50, you spin doctor of a phony. I never said we’d win 10, someone else did. But, I won’t say we can’t.
Do you have any real argument with me MR? No, because you can’t think of one yourself. ZZZzzzz
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:32 pm
LTR Paine be safe bro
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Get out…get out of my life..
And let me sleep at night….
Because you don’t really love the Raiders..
But you keep us hanging on….
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 pm
G-Raider (106): I think it’s a question is whether Sands shows up to play. I sure hope he does.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Sure, we *could* win 10 games…
And, we *could* win 16 games…
We could do anything!
In the meantime,
This is dedicated to MaddenRaider,
from the Davis kool aid drinking homers at Jerry’s blog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMKaRKbsswM
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 pm
nothing’s guaranteed in this league and what makes you think Sands will even get that far…after last year i wouldn’t be sad to see that guy go…when we cut him we can use that money to pay Grady, a proven run stuffer
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Tommy Trojan Says:
May 2nd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
“The Raiders also maintain, despite their (only) five-year down period, a very high standard in terms of the product that is put on the field.”
Are you just going to change “despite their five year down period” to “six” when you post the same thing next year, and so on?
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Tommy Trojan Says:
May 2nd, 2013 at 2:18 pm
“The Raiders also maintain, despite their (only) ten-year down period, a very high standard in terms of the product that is put on the field.”
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm
We wear the silver, we wear the black
Don’t get in our way
We wear the silver, we wear the black
And we’ll be coming after you
We rock the stadium with all our might
That is what we do
We wear the silver, we wear the black
And we’ll be coming after you!
Ten wins 2008!
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
We signed Ed Hartwell, LB.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Hahahaha, now that’s funny!
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Joshyfan: whether you love us or you hate us, you’re always thinking about us!
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/02/SPMM10FTVF.DTL
Ed Hartwell stats:
YEAR TEAM G TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2001 BAL 16 6 6 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
2002 BAL 16 144 110 34 4 3.0 2 0 0 0 0
2003 BAL 16 94 69 25 5 3.0 1 0 1 26 0
2004 BAL 16 97 58 39 0 0.0 1 0 0 0 0
2005 ATL 5 22 16 6 1 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
2006 ATL 8 40 30 10 0 1.0 1 0 0 0 0
Career 77 403 289 114 10 7.0 5 0 1 26 0
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Hey Dakota. Hartwell could be a great find.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm
MR — how about some football talk?
Of the veterans who may become Free Agents, or those who might be trade-bait, which one/s do you think we should target for the D-line?
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Sands signed a big contract before last season. Anyone know the cap hit if he gets cut?
Kiffen’s DT comments yesterday:
Tim Ryan: “Not taking Dorsey, how do you feel about your defensive line? Terdell Sands, Gerard Warren, how comfortable are you, Lane, and I guess you must be, that those guys are going to show up and be real consistent for you on the inside?”
Kiffin: “Yeah, they’re both here working out now. We’re going to need them to step up and play really well and play consistent along with Tommy Kelly. Those are three guys that have done some really good things at times for us. Now we need them to play more consistent and hopefully they can be dominant for us inside.”
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I remember hoping we would sign the guy a couple of years ago, but he went to ATL and disappeared.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Three lost seasons later, he hopes to rejuvenate his career with the Raiders.
Hartwell agreed to a free-agent deal with Oakland, two NFL sources confirmed Friday, giving the team a veteran presence at middle linebacker and the player a chance to get back into the league.
————
awesome pickup
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
that means this just might be Sam Williams last year I really want that guy to step up…come on Sam you’re representing Fresno…Go Dogs! later guys the Real G is out..
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
HD#37: i’m still working on troll identfication, but once i discern one, that’s the end of communication.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Lol, I see you guys knew about Hartwell hours ago…well, I tried…
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Kobe won his first MVP…it should be his third consecutive, but that is another story.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
If Hartwell still has it, we might finally have our inside run stuffer. Morrison always seemed better suited to outside where he can use his speed and skills.
Hartwell got to shine when Ray Lewis was out. Because he’s suited to the middle, I understand Hartwell’s leaving Baltimore, but what happened in Atlanta?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:04 pm
GRaider,
I think this is Hartwell’s Atlanta story:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2577568
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:05 pm
hartwell gives hope. now if we do something about our OLT, 10 wins.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:06 pm
They are already chanting BEAT LA in Utah…bastuuurds.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:07 pm
I don’t know if 10-wins would get MR to take off his Chiefs jersey?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 pm
let’s pray BOS can pull out game 7, i really want to see that LA v. BOS finals, now it seems BOS won’t be there, that’s ok, a title is a title, regardless of who the lakers beat in the finals
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:09 pm
We still need some fresh competition on that D-line, even if Hartwell pans-out.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 pm
MR is funny
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 pm
MR, if(i mean when) the raiders win 10 games this year, will you give the pessimism a rest?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 pm
whats going on
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:11 pm
grady jackson and rod coleman each fit the standard al davis ex-raider reclamation project, expect one of them……….
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:12 pm
hartwel keeps getting injured
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Any other players available with knee injuries? Sign them up Al.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:14 pm
grady is old, it wasnt the players, it was the scheme
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:15 pm
rob r needs to get his schemes better, and not keep our fast lbs in coverge
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Thanks, Dakota. An achilles and debris in both knees. When he spent so much time on IR after signing what was probably a pretty goo free agent contract, they probably just could not get past it in Atlanta. And last year was such a mess there.
Well, its been two years since those surgeries. As long as he still had cartilege tissue, he should be good to go.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 pm
do you guys agree
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 pm
it’s a low risk investment to add some decent depth at LB, judging fro our UDFA signings that seems to be the current goal, that, and finding a 3rd starting LB, thomas is servicable but ideally we could find better, the front office apparently sees this as a major priority
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 pm
*good
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:18 pm
SO NO ONE HERE THINKS ITS THE SCHEME?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 pm
raider o, i agree to an extent, i think we have very talented players but believe we should be running a 3-4, but it won’t happen, nonetheless we can still be very successful with the current defense, expec a top 10 pass defense and a top 15 overall defense
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Raider O
ROB RYAN FUKIN SUX!
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Raider O: On third and long? Two-minute drill? Yes, I agree. We have an excellent nickle.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 pm
dakota, RR doesn’t run the defensive schemes, he just calls the plays on d, davis implements the schemes on defense
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:21 pm
WOW BLAME THE PLAYERS? LBS HAD 2 SACKS, SO AS FAST AS T HOWARD IS HE COULDNT GET AROUND THE EDGE FOR MORE SACKS, SO ITS HIM NOT THE SCHEME THAT HAS DROPED IN COVERGE, AND HUFF SUCKS AS CAUSE HE HAS TO PLAY MAN ON TES, CMON?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
TT, IMO we dont have the lbs for the 3-4, ok morrison inside TH is two small for 3-4 who else, williams, has the size but i dont know ans rt too small.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:24 pm
240 is not too small for inside
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Warren Sapp is the MAN! If there is someway, ANYWAY, he plays one more year for us, we’re a lock for the playoffs.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 pm
we have the lineman for the 3-4 and burgess olb and morrison inside, but TH is more fit in a 4-3. and who is your other lb?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 pm
TT,
I blame AD for a lot, but our failures on D, are not his fault. Yes, Davis may tell the coordinator what to run, but he has been doing so forever, and we have has some decent defenses even in the last 15 years, so the fault lies with RR and his inability to teach the players the basics of defense: tackling and angles of pursuit.
AD is not at fault…unless you blame him for retaining RR.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Gosh, Neemska. Here I thought I was homer.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:27 pm
burgess, edwrads, and scott could rotate at LEO, Morrison is a prototype TED, thomas can play MIKE, or maybe hartwell, and howard would be a great SAM, our LBs are actually great 3-4 fits and sands is a prototype NT, kelly an ideal SSDE and warren and richardson can both alternate at WSDE, our personnel are perfect for a 3-4, but unfortunately it’s not likely
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
TT, morrison is 240, and no thats not really small for a lb but if he couldnt shed blocks with 4 lineman infront of him you think he can do it with 3?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Ryan should’ve been replaced before last season, more-so after.
TT — Is that really you? You know Al’s not calling the plays. Paying the players, yes, but not calling the plays. Every coach in Raiders history has de-bunked that claim.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 pm
TT, i forgot all about edwards, im sorry, ya between him and burgess we have ouysides but i dont agree with howard inside.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 pm
TT, I see what you said. Still disagree, though. Ryan’s calling the schemes and the plays, and he teaches his defense the way he wants them to play.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
i’m not blaiming AD, i blaim last year’s D struggles on stu, inconsistency opposite nnamdi, and kelly and burgess getting injured, while i give AD and RR credit for the 2006 D, which was very good, RR is a good coach, but he’s not the X’s and O’s coach everyone wants, he’s a motivational coach, and that he’s good at, i think we should run a 3-4 in order to maximize our talent on D, but we have enough talent on D to field a great defense regardless of fromation, it’s just a matter of staying healthy and executing, and the 06 team proved we’re capable of both of those, and our current D is FAR more talented, so if we stay healthy on D then we will field a very good defense
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 pm
l liked TT argument about the 3-4 and agreed with most of it except the howard inside deal, IMO that wont work
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:33 pm
imo rob gives the ryan family a bad name.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
how many people here dropped when we picked dmc, and are high on him now? be honest cause im one of them.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Lester: Give Tommy an ID test. Make him tell you in 20 seconds 20 players who will go in the fifth or sixth round next year.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
3-4? Lol, yeah right. If we only had a 26 year old Ted Washington and more than 2 LBs that were worth a crap and had traded Burgess because only on Madden 09 could he be converted to a LB…then maybe a 3-4.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 pm
No matter what base defense we run, 3-4 or 4-3, we simply do not have enough able bodies on the D-line.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
why is TT an insider??
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
morrison hasn’t been the one struggling to shed blocks, howard is the culprit there, becuase of his lanky frame impedes his ability to hold the point of attack, but he’ still a great all around LB, but these claims didn’t surface until our two best DL got injured, so i’d say there’s little to worry about there
and hayes, i never said AD calls plays, he installs his own philosophies and dictates to RR what schemes will be run, while RR executes the play calling, subsitutions, and adjustments, RR is the DC, but AD plays a significant role in the D
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
dont go crazy on me but i think(THINK) our line will be ok
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:38 pm
raider O, i said thomas howard should play SAM if we were to run a 3-4, robert thomas would be a decent MIKE
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 pm
TT — caught it, see #167. Still disagree — Ryan should’ve been held accountable for his boring schemes that didn’t work.
RR needs to learn to attack.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 pm
RR is a complete idiot…if you can’t see that from his recent statements and his statements at the end of the regular season, then you are blind. He is a clueless buffoon who has no idea hope to fix our defense. The 2006 defense was a mirage and Ryan deserves NO CREDIT for that season, or anything else he has done since arriving here. He has done nothing but fail time after time.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:39 pm
O, I was done before the Saturday started. I liked the remainder of Dorsey/Gholston/C. Long, but I was pushing a trade for Chad Johnson with a later pick of Chris Willams for LT. Then Hall and Harris gave their interviews, which were pretty impressive, and became a believer that Harris is Cable’s choice.
Now? I’m all in.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 pm
davis doesn’t let him attack, he’s calling plays in line with AD’s defensive philosophies, and our D has little problem attacking when our DL is healthy
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 pm
raider o, who said i was an “insider”?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 pm
i like AL! i cant help it!
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:43 pm
there is a creature out there, who many have interacted with tonight, who was all about politics last night. i see now that his/her politics were phony, and that this person only wants to disrupt this site. i fell for their act last night. as someone said: let’s not feed the trolls!
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Here’s what Al wants to see: A team that wins. A defense that does whatever it takes to win. He’ll accept anything RR does to the schemes if they work. RR has been given the tools, and he keeps failing.
IF…IF the team starts slowly, and the defense is the reason, Ryan will be gone by the Bye.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
i was reading a blog from 2 days ago and someone said you work with the image or something?
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Under RR our LBs had what, 2 sacks last year? Why? Because Al Davis will not allow RR to blitz?
Well, then something certainly has changed. Al Davis must have believe in LB blitzes in 2002, because under Chuck Bresnahan our LBs had 15.5 sacks.
So, either AD has changed, or Chuck B. said FK U AD in 2002, or RR is a clueless moron.
My vote goes to RR being a clueless moron.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 pm
i agree with hayes post #186 by signing gibril and hall, there is no nrrd to drop lb in coverge alot, and then ryan has to step up his scheme.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:49 pm
i like budy and rex, rob im not dold on.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
i work in marketing as a socal marketing director for the raiders, but yeah, the image is a part of that department, but my responsibilities are not limited to the image stores, but that hardly makes me an insider, i just tailgate with a long-time buddy in the scouting department, that’s about as inside as i actually get in terms of the football aspect of the team, but on the bright side i’ll be applying for a job in scouting this summer, so, we’ll see how that goes, i got most of our draft picks right this year and suddenly i’m an “inside source”, but i’m really not
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
sorry, sold on
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:51 pm
i like youe honesty, TT, good luck.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 pm
dakota, in 02 we had a high powered offense that forced teams to pass and allowed our D to attack, unfortunately we ddin’t have great DE, so our outside pass rush HAD to come from the outside
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Having been witness to some of the greatest Raiders defensive teams ever, I’ll tell you blitzing played major roles in every one of them.
The myth of Al not liking the blitz EVER is just that.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Tommy Trojan: i respect your research: now that we know we didn’t trade down or aquire some lower round offensive linemen: how far do you think “trust in cable” will go to protecting our rookie quarterback, who, with our current line, every team is going to be teeing off on? we need an OLT. Harris? do you really think so? i’d appreciate your views.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
we have a good YOUNG team, and with JR and DMc and bush, we can build on that for years to come.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Still searching for that great DE, too.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 pm
TT,
So Al Davis said “attack” in 2002 because we didn’t have a great DE, but in 2008 he is telling RR not to allow the LBs to blitz because we have the great Burgess and Richardson??? Yeah right. Face it, AD may tell RR to play a 4-3, but he is not dictating from the owners booth the play by play decisions on defense during the game. RR is the one not calling for the LB blitz.
Our defense will never be top notch as long as RR is here.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:57 pm
2007, not 2008…oooops.
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:58 pm
our oline is more fit for run blocking, but jr is big and has good footing with a cannon arm that might just kill yhe opposing D. plus i like theDMC draft cause teams have to stack the box wich is better for JR.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
i think harris is nearly the prototype for a ZBS LT, he’s big enough that he won’t get thrown into anyone on cut blocks but agile and athletic enough to function in space, he’s highly intelligent and uses his hands well, but he got the gallery treatment in terms of switching coaches every year and he was overpowered in the more trditional OL scheme, he just doesn’t fit on the same type of OL as larry allen, i honestly think he will more than live up to his draf statuc with us, and should he fail, we have henderson and either mcquistan or green to compete as well, it’s not just about trusting cable, it’s important to evaluate the decisions themselves rather than blindly trust in a coaches ability based on his past success, i played LT for two years in HS in a ZBS scheme and my trojans operate a ZBS scheme, also, likel i said, i get some decent tape from my buddy to do my own scouting, so i have little more experience with and understanding of the ZBS system than the average fan, and i agree with cable’s/kiffin’s/knapp’s decision to go with harris
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
C’mon you guys. Unfortunately, I’m backing TT on this. RR is a solid coach. Sorry to everyone that does not understand coaching, or defenses, or the National Football League. What I love is no one said anything about Ryan in 05. Everyone loved Ryan in 06. No one said an effing thing about Ryan thru most of ‘07 til the end of the year and then here comes disgruntled idiot, saying somehow this Ryan guy doesn’t know what he’s doing.
During the Air Coryell years the Discharge had a very good team. They were losing games 45-41. That fat ass piece of crap Tom Bass, DIDN’T KNOW what he was doing. Last year we lost games 12-10 and 13-9. Now just winning those two games would have put us at 6-10 coming off a 2-14 season. When you’re losing games 12-10 it’s not that the defense isn’t doing it’s job!! Any one criticizing the defense for losing 12-10 or 13-9 doesn’t know what the fukk they are talking about. Sorry.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I assume the plan is to bring Edwards in on third down and two minute as a pass rusher opposite Burgess. (For a 1st rounder, I’m sure the Lions demanded that Edwards be an every down player.)
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
this RR last chance, eveyone knows kiffin almost fired him so he has 1 more year to prove himself. not even AL will save him next year?
does anyone know how how many years he got on his new deal< i hope its 1!
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Anyone who thinks RR knows what he is doing is the clueless fukin idot Oak, I guess that would be you…sorry.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
i never said RR was great, he’s not an Xs and Os guys, he’s a motivator, and a good one at that, and yes, burgess is a great DE, but richardson has to develope and until he can do that he will be rotating with edwards and scott
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:03 pm
C’mon Glenn — How about the other scores that weren’t 12-10? And, you know this already…it’s not always how many points you give up, but WHEN you give them up.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
this is RR’s last year, he’ll leave on his own after this year, but after a very good performance from the D this year, there may actually be some demand for him
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
oak, in 05 and 06, our offense was so bad we barely scored, so other teams didnt do much on offense but you can credit thar to RR.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
He is not a motivator. A motivator would have the D ready to play week in and week out. Players like him…that does not mean he is a motivator. It just means he is easy on them in practice, he gives them pizza breaks and nap-time during meetings, and he never says a bad word about his players in the media so the guys adore him…who wouldn’t want to play under him?
He is a loser and he is the main thing that will hold back our D. I’ll trust Kiffin on this one. RR if a shite coach.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
His year will have to be spactacular for any team to offer Ryan close to what Al’s been paying him. he hasn’t earned the dough.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Okay so you guys think you give up 9 points as a defense that’s not good??????????? Who says that??? Dakota, Daze??? ????????? We lost and we gave up 21 points in 2 losses. Speak up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 pm
so TT, he only got a one year deal? are you sure?
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Those are 2 games, dude. What about the others that were higher-scoring? And, in those 2 games, did we give away the game with poor D at the end?
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
He has a year left coming into this year.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Are you really Dakota, or are you asswipe pretending???? Dakota is normally not up at 2am his time??? If you’re really Dakota, who is the ‘09 draft pick???????????
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
the players respect him, trust him, and play hard for him, but when you run a defense relient on a push from the DL and your two best D-linemen get injured, your d is put in a bad situation, add in inconsistency at the #2 CB spot and the FS spot and you get problems, those problems have been corrected, although i would still like to see more depth added
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Jesus, a couple of decent games that our D blew in the end and you want to put RR up on a pedestal? Low standards I guess.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Daze, break it down for me!!!!!!!! The two highest scoring offenses we faced we’re Green Bay in Lambeau and Indy here. do you remember the scores of those games at half time??????????????
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
oak, 9 points, the colts , chargers,lions, jaguars we gave up more than 28 points, cmon oak, it wasnt just oneor two games.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 pm
hopefully the 09 draft pick is Rey Maualuga, but we ma have to have the #1 overall pick to get him, and we would have to trade up close to 20 spots, so we can settle for jeff byers or brian cushing in the high teens to low 20s
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Fili…and it is only 12:10 am here, lol.
RR sux azz and I want to kick AD in the balz for retaining him out of spite for Kiffin and because he didn’t want to pay RR’s salary while he consulted for the Jets.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 pm
wow it is late, i’m out
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 pm
See, that’s ridiculous. I don’t believe you’re Dakota. Those defensive players played hard til the end. That was the argument I had with that complete moron mistabrown. You CANNOT DIVORCE the offense from the defense. Brown in his very limited mental capacity cannot see that. If you’re offense does absolutely nothing, how can you expect your defense to continually hold the opponent over and over and over again????????????????????
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 pm
oak. games dont end on half time.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Sweet!!!!!! Dakota, I actually totally dig your posts. some hate Ryan. as TT said, I’;ve said repeatedly, he’s gone anyway. As long as you are really Dakota, I’m OK with it.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Glenn, that’s why I asked you. Without digging-up stats, I know this, The D let us down over-and-over last season, no matter how hard they tried. I still love ‘em, but they weren’t close to good enough.
I want Ryan to field a great D this year. I like Ryan. He just hasn’t done the job.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 pm
oak, for post #225remmember the ravens, offense barely scored.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:17 pm
oak DOES have a point though, the D played great for the 1st half of the game, but because the O continually put them in bad situations, adn injuries only worsened it, the D never had a chance, a health (and improved) DL, a dramtically improved improved secondary and a complete offensive transformation will do wonders for this defense
now, i’m out
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:17 pm
O, you can’t expect the defense to do everything. Against GB, we were down 14-7 at half, only because of a 65 yard punt return. We lost the game because of two special teams blunders. Same thing against Indy. You can’t just blame Ryan and the D for that.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 pm
i think we will finish no less than 8-8.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
My main point of contention with RR is our inability to tackle and to pursue the correct lines of pursuit, which when coupled together, end up resulting in huge rushing games against us. RR even said he had to work better on fundamentals…maybe this year he will spend a little time on teaching players how to tackle…believe it or not, it is not all natural talent in tackling, practice really does help. I just hope RR understands that this year. Maybe Wilson can teach the guys how the Giants learned to tackle, lol.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Against Chicago, I thought we would at least get in position for a field goal. That pick was painful — and unnecessary.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
O, if you are talking about the World Championship Ravens team, my cousin was a starter on that defense. So I know that team fairly well. The difference was that was a great defensive team with a mediocre offense. We were a decent defense with a poor offense.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
If JaMarcus takes us to the playoffs, I say he gets NFL MVP honors. Screw Brady and the Mannings.
Quick List your top QB is in the league as of today.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm
#230 –
That is a good point, and one I have haven’t forgotten. Ryan still failed, and it wasn’t the first year he was bad.
But, he’s the D-coordinator — and I’ll believe he’s got it figured-out this year until he shows he hasn’t.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Here’s a little something for anyone who wants to chew up and spit out, and I posted it on another article about Tyvon and his Raider dad. I think it was Patrick Patterson’s article. Have at it…
# GuamanianRaider says:
April 30th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Man… we have the returns on this year, and it’s about time to have that as a weapon again. Tim Brown came in as a rookie and smashed the total yards gained as a rookie, a record that stood since Gayle Sayers hit it in his rookie campaign. Now, we have this kid whose dad bled Silver and Black for his life, Tyvon Branch, who not only has legs to carry the rock kicked off but runs the gunner ship around the outside. This guy’s our “reach” or “value” pick, a guy with the element of surprise: a diamond in the rough or plain tough luck, kid. He IS an upgrade. (I loved Carr’s motor but his tank couldn’t carry him the distance.) On another vain (or is that vein?) we have DeAngelo Hall (of Fame) with his trophy pose and trash-talk, and he brings the funk to the field. Before (either of) our new rookie(s) donned the black cap, Hall was the pick to return the punts if the opponent kicked from their (say about) 25 yard line. McFadden adds a whole new dimension that will only have an exponential affect to our (special teams potentially and) offense. Nothing like a little field position and running game to enhance JaMarcus Russell’s first season at the helm. Number 20 will have a big impact for our team, and no I don’t want him to have an Adrian Peterson type of season. I want #20 to hit the field like Darren McFadden does and no other, like the brothers before him in Marcus Allen and Bo Jackson did for themselves. Same goes for Michael (don’t think he’s Reggie) Bush. This time we have our running back duo stepping on the gridiron as (essentially) rookies together. What better support (we have a tight end—and it’s Miller time, baby) than a running game that can tighten a defense for our gunslinger to rifle at his outside targets, showcasing his new weapons? What made our pass defense number one in 2006? Our offense. What could change the perception (lies, damn lies, and statistics) as a run defense? Our offense putting us in the lead. This year, we may lead the league in coverage sacks, all of a sudden bolstering our perceived pass rush. I think over the next two years we address the depth and talent of both our lines, and we hit the field this season with what we’ve got and whomever June brings with our cleats on our feet. No more running without our feet on the ground (thank you, Fargas, and last preseason Echemandu). I don’t buy into the media spin on our run defense. Football teams are dynamic. Maybe we already have our big three: quarterback, running backs, and the tight end. How you like dem apples. Thank you New York for Gibril Wilson and McFadden and the rest of our team’s speed depth.
Just a thought.
Raider on,
Guamanian Raider
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm
oak, i dont blame the d for lack of offense, but coming into last season our d was suppose to be our strenhth and it wasnt.
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Dakota, you are exactly right. We tackled very poorly, we did not shed blocks, we did not create turnovers, in other words, as I broke down tape, I thought we lost the individual battles, 90% of the time on defense. To me that was personel more than coaching. I saw guys in their right assignments. They, then did not execute the assignment.
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