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Spires prepares move West

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, May 12th, 2008 at 3:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

No announcement yet from the Raiders, but defensive end Greg Spires told the News-Press of Fort Myers, Fla., he has signed with the Raiders and is making arrangements to move his family to California.

Spires, most recently with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, wore a silver and black uniform in high school at Mariner High School.

Spires will participate in the Raiders’ organized team activity which begins Tuesday and runs through Thursday.

A 10-year veteran, Spires was in New England for three seasons when Rob Ryan was there as linebackers coach, and played seven seasons for Tampa with Monte Kiffin as his defensive coordinator.

“I want to go out on my terms,” Spires told the News-Press. “Oh yeah, I’m hungry.”

Spires told the News-Press, “They’ve tweaked the defense a little bit. That’s why I’m here.”

The Spires signing, presumably a one-year deal at or near the veteran minimum, is similar to one the Raiders made last week in bringing in Edgerton Hartwell. If it pans out, they’ve got a productive role player at a minimum price. If not, they’ll be like last year’s signing of Donovin Darius and fail to make the 53-man roster.

Spires will compete as a rush end. He has 39.5 career sacks with a high of eight in 2004 _ the same amount Raiders co-leaders Derrick Burgess and Chris Clemons had last season. Clemons left in free agency, signing with the Philadelphia Eagles.

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507 Responses to “Spires prepares move West”

  1. They Call Me Assassin Says:

    What the hell does “tweaked the defense” mean?

  2. RaiderZ Says:

    Good to hear.

  3. Fanatic Says:

    1st - Silver and Black for life!

  4. Mistabrown Says:

    Jerry why was this guy available so long before we scooped him up ?

    “They tweaked the defense so Im here”

    “Oh yeah, I’m hungry.”

    I like this guy!
    :)

  5. Mistabrown Says:

    Assassin, has to be 3/4 defense.

  6. BART Bridge Balla Says:

    any tweak to our defense can only be a good thing.

  7. They Call Me Assassin Says:

    “…Spires was a member of the Superbowl Team and has been a rock over the years, but he hasn’t been healthy and wants (or believes) to start, so the Bucs had to cut the ties…”

    St. Pete Times

  8. They Call Me Assassin Says:

    Now you’re gettin’ me excited Mista! If we come out in a 3:4 I will take back everything I’ve ever said about Al and RR. This would lend hope as it would indicate they haven’t lost their marbles over there in Alameda.

    Unfortunately, I think he is referring to the addition of talent (i.e. Hall and Wilson) and feels like the Raiders are putting together a good defense that he want’s to be a part of.

    I sure hope your assumption is right and I’m wrong.

  9. Bo Jackson's Hip Says:

    Wtf

  10. They Call Me Assassin Says:

    You bet BBB.

  11. Quagmire'd Says:

    Spires is gonna have to beat out Trevor Scott for a roster spot first.

  12. Mistabrown Says:

    Bringing in talent isnt a “tweak” every off season teams upgrade talent.

    Its only a tweak so we wouldnt use 3/4 exclusively just a change of pace..

    We’ll see, Jerry know anything about a 3/4 ???

  13. They Call Me Assassin Says:

    At 6′1″ / 265 lbs he can only be situational, so I hope his intentions are not to start because he’s not taking Burgess’ spot and he’s too small for us to pair him with another 265 lb DE. It’ll be nice to have a plethra of pass rushing DE’s to compete. Edwards, Spires, Scott, Gunheim…I’m sure one of these guys can win a job. I’m all for competition. We need to do more of it and it looks like we have at all positions with the exception of backup QB.

  14. Mistabrown Says:

    Quag, maybe its Richardson that needs to beat out Trevor Scott? Doesnt Kalimba play right end too ? We have alot of bodies going into camp.

  15. CT soreloser Says:

    LOW risk HIGH reward

  16. They Call Me Assassin Says:

    I don’t think Richardson has much competition. I suspect he’s slotted for the base end and everyone else is competing for the situational pass rushing role.

  17. Quagmire'd Says:

    Mista, I was being sarcastic about Scott….lol.

  18. Mistabrown Says:

    Richardson didnt impress me at all last year.

  19. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Tweaked - Are they going to try tackling guys this year? Any tweaking is good.

    Takeo Spikes only makes sense if we go to a 3-4 to play inside next to Morrison. He’s not OLB material.

    The Raiders signed Morant from the rookie camp. What about all the other studs and freaks and steals?

  20. BART Bridge Balla Says:

    the guy they just signed; Tranell Morant is a DE/DT hybrid, maybe he will compete with Richardson. Besides the two of them, we have nothing but pass-rushing DE’s.

  21. Quagmire'd Says:

    COW, and duds…

  22. UPPER CASE Says:

    3-4? Spires played in the Tampa 2. Why would we bring him in to run the 3-4? Why would we sign Tommy Kelly to a billion dollar contract to run a 3-4? I think they plan on running more stunts and twists like they did in the Colts game.

  23. CT soreloser Says:

    spires,richardson,scott…donzo.. boy a friggin 3-4 sounds perfect with kelly to DE

  24. Coach on Wheels Says:

    LOL Yes, during the last few days it sounded like every guy in camp was going to the pro bowl on here….now ugly reality sets in. Hate when that happens. Scrubs beating scrubs and the guy nobody mentioned (Morant) gets signed. Too funny.

  25. Dakota Says:

    Are people still talking about signing Chris Henry? You do understand that as soon as this guy gets nailed for assault on his pending case the NFL is going to ban him for at least 1 year? So why sign him? Why waste a roster spot on a guy that will be gone at some point just prior to or during the season?

    Or do you guys really buy into that innocent until proven guilty line of crap society throws at you? lol.

  26. CT soreloser Says:

    was the wolverine package in a 4-3 or 3-4?

  27. Mistabrown Says:

    Dakota, nobody mentioned Henry till you hit the keyboard, thanks!

  28. Thec Says:

    Post 19 comment,

    The Raiders signed Morant from the rookie camp. What about all the other studs and freaks and steals?

    ROFLMFAO.

    COW= the voice of reason, that was funny as all hell coach. anyway how are you?

  29. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Upper Case - We aren’t running a 3-4. I started pimping the idea the day Sapp retired. Tweaking could be anything. Maybe they’re going to blitz once a game instead of every two games…who knows?
    Spikes isn’t a good fit period because at his current age etc he is inside LB material.
    Only an idiot would move Morrison outside and stunt his growth at MLB to give Spikes one more season.

  30. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, here is your rookie_only_mini_camp SUPERSTAR!

    Drum roll…….
    Tranell Morant

  31. Dakota Says:

    Mista,
    I guess you must have just shown up, because people were talking about Chris Henry on the last thread, just a few minutes ago. Thanks to you too.

  32. Dakota Says:

    3-4? Lol. Did we sign a bunch of quality LBs and a NT that I don’t know about or something? 3-4! LMFAO.

  33. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Doing good Thec. Getting a good laugh outta the blog of late.

  34. Thec Says:

    Did the dischargers sign newberry? Hardwick will be out another 4 months with his surgery.

  35. Dakota Says:

    Thec,
    I don’t think they signed him yet.

  36. Mistabrown Says:

    A tweak could mean anything when you’re talking about RR’s vanilla D so who the hell knows what the tweak is!

  37. Thec Says:

    COW, I have been wanting the raiders to sign spikes, what you say about him makes sense not a fit for our system.

  38. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Chris Henry, Takeo Spikes, shoot can we drag Joe Theisman outta retirement and end his broadcasting career please?
    This is a young building team. Throwing tired old castoffs into take reps away from our young guys is not good.
    Sign that Ranklin what’s his face RB from rookie camp before wasting time on Henry. What purpose does benchwarming Henry serve? Not like he’s going to develop…

  39. Dakota Says:

    Maybe Scott and Burgess can play LB in our new 3-4 defense??? LMFAO! Turd will be the blocker eating NT we would need right? HAHAHAHAHAHA

    Maybe we should play the run and shoot offense too!

  40. Thec Says:

    Tweaked, does that mean 3-4? Can someone explain this to me, do we have the personel to run a 3-4 base?

  41. Dakota Says:

    Thec,

    People talking 3-4 are nutzo…we have the personnel to run a 4-3, not a 3-4. We do not have the depth at LB nor the all important run-stuffing NT to play a 3-4, it would be a disaster like in 04 or 05 (whichever year it was that RR tried the 3-4)…not quite as bad of a disaster, but close to it.

  42. Mistabrown Says:

    Sapp said we have 3/4 players.

    Rob Ryan doesn’t care about players playing out of position.

    Athing is possible, just stay tuned!

  43. Del53 Says:

    Thanks for the updates Jerry. As a Brit following the Raiders I need a daily fix of news and notes to keep my sanity until august/sept.

    I like the moves we have made so far this offseason and only pray that we can maybe unearth a gem or two from these FA at camp.

  44. Coach on Wheels Says:

    NO! Dakota is right Thec. We have not the people for the 3-4. If we had decided early in the offseason to switch we could have gone after the people.
    This guys a tweener. Maybe they stand him up to rush from LB sometimes? Tweak could just mean, “We’re moving Kelly to play 3 gap and haven’t decided who’ll play DE yet. You want a shot?”

  45. Thec Says:

    Cow, what you say does make sense. We have gotten young really fast we only have 7 players over 30 that have signed. Makes sense to develop in house.

    Coach thats why you are the voice of reason.

  46. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Of course Mista is right, that doesn’t mean they won’t try it. If Kelly is the next Sapp, they could put him at DE and have the same disaster they had when RR tried to put Sapp at DE and run 3-4.

  47. Thec Says:

    COW, I am not tall enough to play DE, only 6′1″. don’t have the weight either only 250lbs. I dont run a 4.5 forty either.

  48. Thec Says:

    Post 40 was more of a rhetorical question. All roads have allways pointed to a 4-3 base.

  49. Raider O Says:

    hey Thec, long time no see, man.

  50. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Guys, really, if they were going to go 3-4 with Burgess and Kelly at DE they wouldn’t be signing so many DE’s. They’d be signing more LB’s.

    All that’s happened is they know the D-Line stinks and they are throwing a bazillion guys at the problem hoping one pays off.

  51. Raider O Says:

    Damn Thec you can play LB.

  52. Thec Says:

    If we were going 3-4 it would have made sense to get a run stuffing DT, either in draft or FA.

  53. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Thec you can play for the Raiders - You’re a Freak! Just put on a black practice jersey and step one toe on the training grounds and the bloggers will grant you the coveted “freak” status!

  54. Thec Says:

    O, what up brotha????? I have not been posting just reading. We have a lot of NATION members who give great insight. Coach on wheels is one of them. He has coached I beleive on an NFL level though he wont admit it.

    How you been O? I am at work talking NATION.

  55. Raider O Says:

    i have to agree with COW, we may used it in some downs, but not always.

  56. Thec Says:

    COE, Post 53 ROFLMAO…. thats some funny S#!T, you are going to get me fired….LMAO.

  57. Raider O Says:

    i been good man, this weather man, its been bad lately.

  58. Raider O Says:

    Thec did you play college football?

  59. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Tweak= Tackle the guy with the ball.

  60. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Right as rain Raider O. Actually, the Nickel and Dime packages are technically 3-4 packages with LB’s replaced by DB’s. On obvious passing downs we’ll see Burgess - Warren or Kelly - (Pass rusher TBD)

  61. Thec Says:

    No, I picked up weightliting after high school.

  62. Raider O Says:

    hey Thec you go to sprots bars to watch the raiders?

  63. Thec Says:

    No, I like watch in the privacy of my own home.

  64. Raider O Says:

    Dude, you would have been a monster LB.

  65. Coach on Wheels Says:

    Amen 909.

    Well, gotta go for a bit b4 Thec gets canned. Cya later Raider fans.

  66. Thec Says:

    LTR COW be good

  67. Quagmire'd Says:

    The “tweak” being referred to is RR’s haircut.

  68. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Coach…. take care.

  69. BART Bridge Balla Says:

    maybe the tweak will be more of that wacky 5-2 defense that Rob ran a few times last year. That is the only time that Sands was effective last year. That might explain all the pass-rushing DE’s that they are bringing in.

  70. Raider O Says:

    me and my friends go to a bar in La jolla village dr, next to a ralphs, i forgot the name.

  71. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Out here in the beautiful “Inland Impire”. Tweak is not a good thing.

  72. Raider O Says:

    they used to do the chargers post game report from there.

  73. darkknight01 Says:

    it’s good to load up at the DE position….

  74. Raider O Says:

    ya dark but he is 34, can he still play?

  75. Raider O Says:

    and, he only gets about 4 sacks a year average.

  76. Raider O Says:

    in 6 years he hs 26 sacks.

  77. 909raiderlifer Says:

    As the old saying goes: “Keep throwin cr@p at the wall until some sticks”.

  78. Raider O Says:

    i say give the rookies a chance.

  79. Raider O Says:

    well i hope this one doesnt stick.

  80. Raider O Says:

    we have Scott,morant, gun..,and others lets develop the rookies.

  81. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Kiff is bringing in some vets, to help show the kids in camp, how to go about being a “pro”.
    And to add competition in camp. Kiff is big on that.

  82. eldirty Says:

    we could use all the DE as OLB in the 3/4

  83. Raiderwoj Says:

    Posted by ESPN.com’s Bill Williamson

    The Raiders reportedly are bringing defensive end Greg Spires on board. This is a move to upgrade their defensive end position and replace Chris Clemons, who signed with Philadelphia as a free agent.

    It would be asking a lot of Spires to take over for Clemons, who led the team in sacks last season. Spires had two sacks for a well-coached defense in Tampa Bay last season and his career is winding down. Spires has been on the open market for nearly three months and he didn’t get much attention. No offense to Spires, but this move smacks of desperation.

    Another piece bashing the Raiders from this guy. He acts like we signed this guy to save our D. Guess what his background is:
    Bill Williamson joined ESPN.com in 2008 after four seasons covering the Denver Broncos for the Denver Post.

  84. eldirty Says:

    we still need that massive DT

  85. K-Rock Says:

    What is BSPN’s fascination with ex-bronqueers?

  86. KIrk Says:

    Tweaking the defense = Getting rid of Sapp.

  87. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Figures, Trotter was a hack in San Diego for years also. BSPN is loaded w/ haters.

  88. K-Rock Says:

    With the addition of Hall and Wilson there could be a lot more blitz packages.

  89. Raider O Says:

    Eldirty, rodney bailey and ethan kelley are still out there.

  90. Thec Says:

    Winning will smash the mediots being content with bashing the NATION.

  91. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Bill Williamson is a bum.
    Spires is legit when healthy. Bottom line, we have an arsenal of d-linemen to choose from. My Projected starters are Burgess, Kelly, Sands, Spires.

  92. Raider O Says:

    they are both well over 320.

  93. Thec Says:

    I like the Blitz idea. Lets blitz at least once a seires. That would be easiest way to paremedic a QB.

  94. eyen Says:

    “909raiderlifer Says:
    May 12th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
    Kiff is bringing in some vets, to help show the kids in camp, how to go about being a “pro”.
    And to add competition in camp. Kiff is big on that.”

    EXACTLY! The only thing missing last year, was DRIVE! With more DESIRE and stronger work ETHIC, we WILL play an entire football game from start to finish! Nobody should be tired this year. this is football, so bring on mroe competition! PLAYOFFS baby!! I refuse to have the same mind set as last year, and the year before…oh, and the year before that too…i think you get the picture!If we can have a black man and a woman run for president of the united states. The Raider nation can have REAL OPTIMISM as well!! GO NATION! Only LA Raider fans have this pesimistic crap in their heads…hence the LAKERS! hahaha, GO JAZZ on that note! YEAH I SAID IT!

  95. Raider O Says:

    Spires is a bum, he averages 4 sacks a year as a starter on a good deffense, he is a bum.

  96. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Linebackers are:
    Howard, Morrison, Hartwell

  97. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Maybe the “tweaks” are, RR is lifting a page or two from his Dad’s playbook.

  98. Thec Says:

    At all cost this year we must smash rivers head into the ground. “If” he gets up he sohud be carried off on a stretcher….

    We should paramedic him first play from scrimage send all 11. F it if they score a TD i am okay with it.

  99. eldirty Says:

    that’s what I’m to talking about O!

  100. Raider O Says:

    we can have competition between our rookies or other Fas we pick up, but not a 34yo bum.

  101. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    Secondary:
    Hall,Wilson, Huff, Asomougha

  102. Raider O Says:

    Thec spoken like a true SD raiders fan, you tell’em man.

  103. Joey Bee 1 Says:

    The Defense will sell a lot of jerseys this year.

  104. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Thec.. We’d get a ambulance on the field penalty for that also….

  105. Thec Says:

    O, I dont hate anyone but i cannot stand rivers…..at all. If aliens were beating the hell out of him I would hand then a 34in 30oz aluminum….
    same thing goes for LT, merryman, cooper, gates all the f in dischargers,

  106. eldirty Says:

    I live in SD I can’t stand rivers. ever since I saw him jawing at Sapp. he’s a punk!

  107. Thec Says:

    POST 104, ROFLMFAO……. That penalty would be well worth it. byt the way is that a 15 yard penalty? Also is it taken from the point of the infraction?

  108. Thec Says:

    El, O, and I both live in the area. I love it when i see a member of the NATION down here. If I see you flying our colors i will walk up to you and start a conversation. Its the NATION way. we can talk NATION all day….

  109. Raider O Says:

    Dude, no one likes the mouth from the south, that is all he does is talk, he gets under my skin, you dont hate him thats fine, I DO.

  110. 909raiderlifer Says:

    That would be POINTS of infraction do to the multiple, hits and personal fouls. But worth every one.

  111. KoolKell Says:

    Maybe by singing D Hall, thew will be able to attack the box more on D. Tweaked!

  112. Thec Says:

    O, Its only because i have been taught not to hate. I do have a very strong dislike for him…. I probable do hate him just cant put the 2 togather.

    but i like yourt comment mouth from the south…thats priceless lol

  113. Raider O Says:

    EL, Thec you guys should go to that sports bar im talking about in la jolla village dr next to the ralphs, they do the chargers post game show from there and we(the raiders fans talk a lot of SH!T) with raiders haters,

  114. eldirty Says:

    Thec/O I rest out in East County we should drink one

  115. Raider O Says:

    hey Thec i’de like to get credit for it, but i heared it somewhere i just cant remember where.

  116. Thec Says:

    Kell, what up bro. Yeah I am hoping to see 8, 9 in the box. Looking forward to lots of blitzing. that is a good way to keep guys like rivers quizin what we are doing. his reads are lousy, he will get lucky every once in a while, hopefully we get to him and get his A$$ often.

  117. La Milicia Negra Says:

    No Spieker, means less mistakes by the reporters =)

  118. Raider O Says:

    Dude, the sports bar.

  119. Thec Says:

    I will have to take U up on that offer O.

  120. KoolKell Says:

    By signing D Hall they will be able to attack the box more. Tweaked!

  121. Raider O Says:

    I’ll wear my F the raider hater t-shirt.

  122. eldirty Says:

    I used to bartend at a sick Raider bar… Casa Picante in Santee 4 yrs ago that place was filled wall to wall with the NATION!

  123. Thec Says:

    gotta go punch out time, yeah nice to get paid to talk NATION get work done and talk NATION now thats the american way.

    Will holla at you guys ltr on tonite

  124. Raider O Says:

    chargers fans go grazy when i wear it, i love it.

  125. Raider O Says:

    later bro.

  126. Raider O Says:

    do they show pre-season games there?

  127. Raider O Says:

    hey EL, is it just for the raiders?

  128. eldirty Says:

    they show any game televised for the raiders or that’s on NFL ticket

  129. eldirty Says:

    Only the Nation allowed! Huge flag out front. The last time I saw some one else there he got chased out the bar for yelling chargers lol it was great

  130. Raider O Says:

    dude, this place sounds great.

  131. Raider O Says:

    i’m gonna start going there.

  132. eldirty Says:

    alright I’m out

  133. Raider O Says:

    how do i get there from la mesa? or do you know if its listed?

  134. eldirty Says:

    you need to the foods great too

  135. Raider O Says:

    i found it.

  136. Raider O Says:

    man you made my day, didnt know such a place is in SD.
    i’ll start going there.

  137. radraider Says:

    maybe Tampa Bay tweaked thier defence and thats why he’s here. just another take on his comment

  138. eldirty Says:

    Dude I used to live in La Mesa now I stay in Lemon Grove take the 8 to the 67 get off on the exit after bradley I think its mission gorge make a left off the exit then your first right take it down to mission gorge make a right its on your right hand side not even a 1/2 block away

  139. Raider O Says:

    so its not on woodside?

  140. eldirty Says:

    Mission Gorge turns into Woodside

  141. Raider O Says:

    its 14 miles away from my house, i love it, man thank you so much.

  142. Raider O Says:

    just for that, first round is on me, or better yet, first 3 pitchers are on me.

  143. eldirty Says:

    No worries the owners are huge fans I’ll see you there ok now I’m out later O

  144. Raider O Says:

    gotta get Thec to go there.

  145. Raider O Says:

    later man.

  146. Jhill Says:

    ok …

    I think we’re almost done. Maybe 1 more DT or LB.

  147. Jhill Says:

    Then again, since we just picked up a DT outta rookie camp, maybe were just down to one more LB.

  148. Jhill Says:

    mildly surprised that Spieker got waived. I think I remember him getting talked up a bit after the draft, and for him to be waived already? Wonder what did it?

  149. No More Infield... Says:

    Here in Tahoe it’s mostly Whiner fans… Did find a good Raider bar and a sick Raider booster club in Carson City though… It’s a good thing because I won’t be able to make many games this year…

  150. La Milicia Negra Says:

    maaan, 4 minutes from direct qualification to the Olympics, dammit

  151. DoeDoe Says:

    Have youll been to Ricky’s in San Leandro

  152. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Denmark just beat Belarus in the world cup, in icehockey. weirdly that meant we lost a home game for the qualification to the olympics, If Latvia wins over Germany, we will get a home game…

  153. M Says:

    No more infield,

    you never went by Brothers?

  154. S.R.RAIDER Says:

    we should of kept clemons

  155. daaraiders Says:

    DoeDoe- Ricky’s is the Raiders hangout, especially game day.

  156. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Michael Bush the Wild Card for the Raiders

    Posted May 12th 2008 6:42AM by Michael David Smith

    Filed under: Raiders, Oakland

    If he hadn’t broken his leg in the first game of the 2006 college football season, Michael Bush might have been a first-round draft pick in 2007. Instead the Raiders got him in the fourth round, and he spent that entire year rehabbing from the injury.

    Now he’s healthy (the photo was taken at the Raiders’ minicamp on Friday, when Bush ran at full speed), but can he get on the field with Darren McFadden now the main man in Oakland? He tells the Sacramento Bee what he thought when McFadden was drafted:

    “At first I was like, Why do we need another back?, because, at the time, we did have Dominic, and LaMont still on the roster, and (Justin) Fargas and me,” Bush said. ” … It kind of bothered me, but it didn’t because he can help us. … I’m glad that he’s on our side.”

    McFadden says he was watching the Louisville game when Bush broke his leg, and he seems to think highly of Bush. When you draft a running back with the fourth overall pick, you’re planning to hand him the starting job, but I like the options the Raiders have with having McFadden and the 245-pound Bush as a 1-2 punch. If Bush is as good a player as people thought he was two years ago, the Raiders have two of the NFL’s most talented young runners.

  157. SC Raider Says:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3392047

    Damning patriots / spygate timeline.

    Ha Ha

  158. Brien Says:

    please lets get rid of burgess please

  159. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    Efen, post 94:

    You’re a joke. Better to keep you’re yapper shut when you’re comparing the Jazz to the Lakers. Ask all NBA players, who is the one teams you would prefer to play on.

    Lakers by a big margin. One of the top franchises, followed by the Celtics. The Jazz, they have never won an NBA title and probably never will.

    Ya, the Jazz are tough at home and it may take us 7 games to rap it up. But it’s the moving forward to the next round that matters. All the yapping, it may make you feel good but it’s not going to change the results.

    Back to Raiders football. I’d like to say that the Inland Empire has thousands of Raiders fans. You see them all over. We have a Raiders Image in the Ontario Mall that’s does huge sales in Raiders gear. We
    also have another Raiders Image in the Mall at Moreno Valley. Ya, we don’t live in Oakland, but we’re still part of the Raider Nation and we’re proud of it. Go Raiders.

  160. drray Says:

    its so nice to see the raider fans talking about the raiders in a good way again -
    Bush and Mcfadden are going to be awesome- and they both can catch, as can Miller!!!! If Cable gets the O Line just a bit better every game- we will be a solid offense half way into the season - with th etall speedy recievers clearing out the middle - it should open up the backs and TE for 15 yarders routinely

  161. the real G-raider not the imposter Says:

    get rid of Burgess what the hell are you talking about! what kind of rocks are you smokin’

  162. Raider O Says:

    ya, “lets get rid of burgess please” Brien says, and lose our best D-lineman, what else should we do man? get rid of ASO, maybe Hall?or maybe JR?

  163. Raider O Says:

    his stuff puts our kool aide to shame.

  164. K-Rock Says:

    ‘83 Raiders on America’s Game Thurs on NFLN.

  165. the real G-raider not the imposter Says:

    good looking out on that K

  166. the real G-raider not the imposter Says:

    IN Al I trust…good nite Nation

  167. Dakota Says:

    S.R.RAIDER Says:
    May 12th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
    we should of kept clemons
    _______________________________________________________

    The guy was out of the NFL at one point. So what if he came in and had a bunch of sacks…the guy got lucky and the Raiders knew he was not a keeper, not the real deal, so they let the Eagles over pay him and we are not looking back. I bet the guy does not have 4 sacks next year. FLASH IN THE PAN TWEENER…that sucked against the run…no loss, quit crying about his departure.

  168. Dakota Says:

    Saint, Exla

    Should I be worried about our Lakers? The refs are letting Utah play physical and we do not seem tough enough to match their intensity. We need Bynum in the middle…but I have a bad feeling about his long-term prognosis. The knife is in his future, and Kobe’s too, so even next year could be troublesome.

  169. Mistabrown Says:

    Dakota, the Lakers recent slide has you a little testy ?

  170. J Money 2 Says:

    you think spires will be a starter?

  171. Mistabrown Says:

    J Money, I guess you’ll have to wait for pre-season and find out like the rest of us!

  172. Dakota Says:

    Mista…what are you saying about my testies?

  173. J Money 2 Says:

    thanks… nice response

    how bout you dont respond to me ever… no one cares what you have to say

    lets see how good you listen

  174. Mistabrown Says:

    172- LOL
    173- LOL

    Sorry J Money but pre-season football is where the depth chart gets decided!

  175. Dakota Says:

    J Money,

    I think Spires will be a situational pass rusher…you know, on obvious passing downs, like 3rd and 7 etc…so knowing Rob Ryan’s defense, Spires should get about 17 plays next year lol.

    AL THERE IS STILL TIME; FIRE ROB RYAN!

  176. R.A.W. Says:

    Green Bay just released wide receiver Koren Robinson, we have to get him, it’s either he’s in silver and black or a chief! I hate to see a guy in a divisional opponent uniform when he could’ve been in ours!!!

  177. Dakota Says:

    Let the Queefsd sign the drunk. They can have Chris Henry too.

  178. Mistabrown Says:

    There you go J Money read # 175

    I gave you reality (171) and Dakota gave you pure 100% speculation. On a blog you can get a variety of information.

    :)

  179. Dakota Says:

    Mista, it is not speculation if you are always right like me!

  180. Dakota Says:

    China offered no help during Katrina…we better not lift a finger to help those people. Quid pro quo baby.

  181. Mistabrown Says:

    Yep, you are testy!

  182. Raider O Says:

    spires will not make the team.

  183. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    118 days, 21 hours and 48 minutes until we kick the butts of the Donkeys on Monday night football. Shanna-rat will walk out with his head in his butt and the season opener on the Loss column. Go Raiders.

  184. Mistabrown Says:

    O, will Jano make the team ?

    New kicker AL or wider goal posts!

  185. Raider O Says:

    how about that for speculation?

  186. Raider O Says:

    this hurts me to say, but yes.

  187. R.A.W. Says:

    did anyone read my comment on Koren Robinson? He’s there for the taking!!!! The KC Cheats can’t have him!!!!

  188. R.A.W. Says:

    did anyone read my comment on Koren Robinson? He’s there for the taking!!!! The KC Cheats can’t have him!!!!

  189. Jesus Cedeno Says:

    This is what im seeing….

    if its a 3/4 D he will make the roster and possibly start opposite side of Derrick Burgess and we will only need 3 DT’s

    if its a 4/3 D he will make the roster aside Trevor Scott,Derrick Burgess,Jay Richardson and Kalimba Edwards.

    I think he’ll make it either way so that way all of them veterans:DB,KE and GS,will help rookie Trevor Scott understand the position better and help him blossom better also! remember Trevor only has 2 years of experience under his belt as a DE!!

  190. Raider O Says:

    i hate kickers.

  191. Mistabrown Says:

    Im going to join in on the speculation..

    I think our running game will be so good we can release all our WR’s and reimburse the season ticket holders 50% from all that cash we save.

    And free parking.

  192. Dakota Says:

    RAW

    Koren Robinson:

    YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
    2004 SEA 10 31 495 16.0 33 2 23 0 0
    2005 MIN 14 22 347 15.8 80 1 10 0 0
    2006 GNB 4 7 89 12.7 24 0 6 0 0
    2007 GNB 9 21 241 11.5 43 1 11 0 0

    What, are watching tape on this guy from 2002 or something? He is worthless, let the Queefs have him.

  193. Raider O Says:

    we signed UFAs gray,gunhiem,morant, and drafted scott, we have veterans in KE,DB, e dont need a 34yo bum that averages 4 sacks a season.

  194. Bob Marley Says:

    Greg Spires is not a pass-rusher, he´s been a starter at LE on a usually stout TB defense over the last 5 seasons because he could usually hold his own vs the run, he´s been a decent two-way player but getting to the QB is not his thing.

    Spires will give you 100% all the time and Gruden called him the most physical player on the team, so despite not being very big he managed to make up for it.

    Point is, Kalimba Edwards is the one brought to fill the pass-rushing role as DE, not Spires.

    If Spires makes the team, he´ll likely back up Burgess at LE and should see some playing time as he´s a better run defender than Burgess.

    Last year in TB Spires played alongside Kevin Carter, Gaines Adams and Greg White in a 4 man rotation at DE, could be the same here with Burgess, Richardson, Edwards and Spires, if he makes it.

  195. Raider O Says:

    4 sacks as a starter is not good.

  196. Mistabrown Says:

    This hurts me to say, but Dakota is right. He is also right about Henry, and that hurts me to say too. He is right about PacMan, also hurts.

    Are we in agreement on C Johnson, let him slide.

  197. Dakota Says:

    Mista, don’t forget about me being right about Don Nelson and Rob Ryan too!

  198. Dakota Says:

    And about our taste in women Mista!

  199. Mistabrown Says:

    Rob Ryan was on the tip of my tongue but I didnt want to pump you up to much just before bedtime…

    What about Nellie ?

  200. Bob Marley Says:

    He did start in TB last season, but that won´t be the case here, I assume.

  201. Raider O Says:

    spires is an old bum, he needs to go get his last pay somewhere else.

  202. Mistabrown Says:

    Women, yes but women are better left off this particular blog…

  203. Dakota Says:

    Don Nelson is a shite coach with an ego that is going to break up the Warriors if he does not place himself in check…you know I am right.

  204. Mistabrown Says:

    So Marley is that the big “tweak” Burgess comes out on running plays ?

    Wow Ryan is just a mad scientist these days! That new haircut has him thinking beyond himself. Whats next blitzing on 3rd and 9 ?

  205. Raider O Says:

    i’m sure one of the rookies we have can do the same for us in rotation. morant is big and strong.

  206. Mistabrown Says:

    After 12 or 13 years of no playoffs its hard for me to bash Nelson.

    Having said that, Id like to put out a cigar out in his ear from time 2 time.

  207. Raider O Says:

    RR is the worst DC from the Ryan family.

  208. Dakota Says:

    Speak of the Devil, espn is reporting that negotiations between the Warriors and Davis have stalled…I bet he wants Nelson to kiss his azz for a while before he re-signs with them.

  209. Mistabrown Says:

    Buddy Ryan called the fridge a waste of a draft pick after they drafted him so evaluating talent does not run in the jeans of the Ryans!

  210. Mistabrown Says:

    Baron is under contract next year he can walk after that. Whos going to give him a new deal with larger money?

    1 more year is all we need from him unless he shaves that beard, then we should pay him.

  211. Raider O Says:

    you would think he learned from his father how to blitz, and then you think he’ll learn from Rex and use Huff the same as Rex uses ED, but no he has to do his own thing. Hey Rob has it been working man?????

  212. Dakota Says:

    Someone needs to buy the Fridge a toothbrush.

  213. Raider O Says:

    where is the damn cool aide? im starting to lose it.

  214. Mistabrown Says:

    I saw the fridge a couple years ago @ SFO he isnt very tall but he is round!

  215. Raider O Says:

    this RR last chance.

  216. Dakota Says:

    Sorry Mista, but he can opt out of the last year of his contract as of July 1…sometimes walking away from a bad situation (Nelson) is more important than money…not usually, but sometimes.

  217. Mistabrown Says:

    If thats the case we should probably pay him but Im glad Im not the GM on this one..

    You know if he gets a huge deal he will probably get hurt.

  218. Bob Marley Says:

    Mista…204

    I think that by “tweaked” Spires was referring to the player movement on defense. I don´t see what else could he mean, I guess we´ll find out in training camp but I wouldn´t get my hopes up.

  219. Mistabrown Says:

    Dakota
    shite coach - Isiah Thomas
    good coach - Nelson
    great coach - Open for debate

    He wont win you a championship but at least you will be in the playoffs or in the hunt.

  220. Dakota Says:

    I am going to watch Clash of the Cavemen (I bet M produced the show!)…I DVRed it off of the History Channel…I think the premise is wrong; Cro-Magnons wipe out Neanderthals. We all know Neanderthals still live…just look at the Ryan clan!

  221. MR Says:

    Greg Spires.

    Reminds me of Major League II, when Roger Dorn tore off his suit with his uniform underneath and announced he was activating himself.

    So, now that Greg Spires is a Raider, let me go back to 2003 and find my excitement…

    Hey, there’s a reason to buy another seat, AI. Greg Spires. My god, when you come down from your months long alcohol and norco binge, it’s going to be a tough fire wood sell, buddy.

  222. Dakota Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    May 12th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
    Dakota
    shite coach - Isiah Thomas
    good coach - Nelson
    great coach - Open for debate

    He wont win you a championship but at least you will be in the playoffs or in the hunt.
    ______________________________________________________

    Sounds a bit like dry humping. I guess it is better than nothing, just put some ice on your blue balz afterwards.

  223. MR Says:

    Did we outbid another team for Spires, or is he washed up?

  224. Holyroller Says:

    Isn’t there some forty whiner highlight show on maddenloser

  225. wva raider Says:

    You mostly know some things about football but if chris henry is allowed to play he is the best wr we have.2nd If we sighn a henry or robininson no money lost just a gain in wins.3rd its not your money spent n half u guys r drinking while u read this site n who hasnt had a dui or speeding ticket hey even pacman has never been convicted of one thing just arrested 12 times love to have chris henry catching 12tds next year

  226. wva raider Says:

    this season rest on 1 thing n thats all jmac playing like a vet n if he does we r n the playoffs then its anyones game hell if brady n mannining go out its anyoes sb

  227. MR Says:

    Raider kool aid drinker/homer translation book, chapter 34:

    “You’re a Niner fan” = “I don’t have an answer”

  228. bill Says:

    i think we should sign Hulk Hogan

  229. MR Says:

    HOLY S**T!!!!

    I was just getting ready to log off, going over the day’s post, when I crossed this gem:

    # Tommy Trojan Says:
    May 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    2008 NFL Power Rankings
    1 New EnglandPatriotsNew EnglandPatriots
    2 JacksonvilleJaguarsJacksonvilleJaguars
    3 IndianapolisColtsIndianapolisColts
    4 San DiegoChargersSan DiegoChargers
    5 DallasCowboysDallasCowboys
    6 Green BayPackersGreen BayPackers
    7 New OrleansSaintsNew OrleansSaints
    8 ClevelandBrownsClevelandBrowns
    9 New YorkGiantsNew YorkGiants
    10 OaklandRaidersOaklandRaiders
    11 SeattleSeahawksSeattleSeahawks
    12 WashingtonRedskinsWashingtonRedskins
    13 PhiladelphiaEaglesPhiladelphiaEagles
    14 HoustonTexansHoustonTexans
    15 MinnesotaVikingsMinnesotaVikings
    16 Tampa BayBuccaneersTampa BayBuccaneers
    17 PittsburghSteelersPittsburghSteelers
    18 TennesseeTitansTennesseeTitans
    19 New YorkJetsNew YorkJets
    20 St. LouisRamsSt. LouisRams
    21 BuffaloBillsBuffaloBills
    22 ArizonaCardinalsArizonaCardinals
    23 BaltimoreRavensBaltimoreRavens
    24 CarolinaPanthersCarolinaPanthers
    25 DetroitLionsDetroitLions
    26 CincinnatiBengalsCincinnatiBengals
    27 ChicagoBearsChicagoBears
    28 DenverBroncosDenverBroncos
    29 San Francisco49ersSan Francisco49ers
    30 MiamiDolphinsMiamiDolphins
    31 AtlantaFalconsAtlantaFalcons
    32 Kansas CityChiefsKansas CityChiefs

    ……

    That’s right, people.

    Tommy Trojan has the Raiders ranked #10 on his power rankings…just one behind the Super Bowl champion New York Giants (which he puts at 9…).

    I don’t think they have a name yet for that Kool Aid flavor…

  230. bill Says:

    NFL live ranked the raiders at 26 or 24 and those guys said that is to high

  231. MR Says:

    They obviously don’t know what Trojan knows.

  232. K-Rock Says:

    If Raiders play up to potential they could be at 20 by the end of the season.

    If they play over their heads all year they could crack the top 15.

    If they play like losers and don’t play 4 quarters they could be 28 or worse.

  233. bill Says:

    so now these guys we have signed hartwell and spires that should fill in the graps that the raiders were missing

  234. MR Says:

    K Rock, if any team plays to their potential they can be at 20. Why don’t you just admit that we’re one of the worst teams in football, and have only made minor tweaks to change things? I’m not buying that any of you truly believe otherwise. You guys are confusing belief with ideology. You don’t believe the Raiders are better. You’re just saying that, to fall in line with the troops. Right?

  235. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    Paper tigers. We always look good on paper. I will wait and hope to see if that evolves.

  236. K-Rock Says:

    MR…

    You are completely wrong. The Raiders are stacked with young talent.

    I watched the Cowboys go from 1-15 to the playoffs to the Super Bowl in the early 90s. They built a young team that took a few years to learn to win but was a great team for many years.

    Raiders have that potential.

  237. K-Rock Says:

    MR…

    You are a hater. You are not a Raiders fan. You only come on this board to stir up trouble and down the Raiders.

    The fact is, no matter what the Raiders did or who they drafted, you would find fault with it because you are a hater.

  238. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Raider O…

    Well I’m sure most kickers hate you too, but we got to admit, having a good kicker and even a good punter is equal to having a great O-lineman or a great D-lineman…

    KC will lose even more in ‘08, now that they lost a good kicker… Special Teams is 1/3 of the team, more than ever, in modern football

  239. La Milicia Negra Says:

    o/~ Men Keep Cool har altid været mit Motto
    Mit navn er Günther, men folk hernede kalder mig Otto o/~

    o/~ Men den dag rød-russerne kommer, og det gør de jo nok igen, har jeg solgt min hacienda og købt en ny i Californien… o/~

    ahhh dette vejr er bare så godt =)

  240. MR Says:

    K Rock, keep guzzling. Oakglenn Orange, or Tommy Trojan Tropical Punch? How about K Rock Kiwi?

    Maybe tomorrow you can give me a laugh by comparing and contrasting our young “talent” with that around the league (I’m assuming you realize that we’ll be playing actual games, against other actual players…)

    Any fan of any team can take the homer approach and pretend that their team’s younger players will blossom into pro bowlers. Only a few do. And it takes smart GM’s that understand today’s game to find those diamonds in the rough. Dysfunctional Al is not one of them.

    Lane Kiffin is our only hope. And, it’s well known that he’s gone after this season.

    Being a fan doesn’t mean being blind. I’m just being realistic. You say that no matter what we do, I’ll criticize. WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THE PAST 5 YEARS?!?!?

    Forgive me for using WINS AND LOSSES as a measuring stick…

    The last winning season we had was 2002. Back then, I was at the San Jose Mecury board under the name “MatuzSAC”. If they’re available, you can dig up my posts from then and see that I was giving the team props, left and right. Heck, dude, I was on board in ‘03. It was when we hired Norv Turner when I saw the light. Up till that point, I was signed on to the theory that Gruden had sold us out. Norvell’s hiring was when I realized that Davis just ran Gruden out for a puppet. I’m still a fan, but I’m just keeping it real. Sometimes the truth hurts. But I promise you, my words won’t be nearly as painful as those losses this fall. Don’t kill the messenger.

  241. MR Says:

    LMN, that post would be illegal in the state of Arizona.

    Oh, wait, only Spanish is illegal there. They’re just racist against Mexicans. I keep forgetting. European languages are fine. Carry on.

  242. La Milicia Negra Says:

    MR…

    its just a silly song, with great lyrics, but it really gets me in the summer groove, like Jazzy jeffs (&the fresh prince) Summertime…

  243. La Milicia Negra Says:

    o/~ Keep Cool always been my Motto
    My name is Günther, but people down here calls me Otto o/~

    o/~ But when the Red-Russians comes, and the most probalby will again, I’ve sold my hacienda and bought a new one in California… o/~

    its from the 80’s =) and its about the “asocial-ness” in the 80’s

    …sorry =)

  244. Eyepatch Says:

    MR the 49er fan commenting again? Get real.

  245. The Dude Says:

    Henry pleaded innocent. If he is innocent then sign him for cheap. He has talent and we are in a position where we cant afford to hand pick the best behaved talent we need quality young players now. Hes only 24, is a real deep threat and would easily be our number 2 reciever and 1 in the future or when Walker gets injured which he will.

  246. Florida Pete Says:

    maddenraider is the worst troll on this blog…

    there are no boundaries to his stupidity…

    he is happiest when he is trashing the team, the fans, and especially Al Davis…

  247. Charlie Says:

    Tranell Morant, Greg Spires, Hartwell.
    Strong indication that our defense is still a bit thin and we may again have trouble stopping the run this year.
    I have accepted the fact that McFadden will be a huge asset to Jamarcus and we have a tremendous foundation for a great offense. We will be a better team in 08 and I can see eight wins. We will score some points but the key to success will be Sands, Kelly and Warren.
    If we still can not stop the run this season we need to build a foundation on the defensive line. That can be done drafting at the 15 to 20 spot in the 09 draft.

  248. Dakota Says:

    Yeah lets sign Chris Henry, not only is he “innocent”, lol, he has monster stats…I mean he did have a career high 36 receptions once! Lets expose all our young players to guys like Henry, Jones, Robinson, ect ect ect…what could go wrong? I mean it certainly didn’t destroy the Bungholes did it…oh wait it did, but the Raiders are different right? The Raiders have a much more stable environment for our players so I am sure those troubled players would straighten up, besides, after they ruin all the young players on our team we could cut them…so no risk, duh.

    Some of you guys are complete fools.

  249. FIRE KIFFIN Says:

    R.I.P. Chris Whitely.

    Just Win Baby.

  250. Dakota Says:

    This is some funny shite!:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355268,00.html

  251. Eyepatch Says:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=3391828

  252. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    I’m not worried about the Lakers. We will win in 7 games. This year, most home teams have won in this round. Even Boston has lost all their road games in the playoffs. Did you read the cr$p on post 94

    “Only LA Raider fans have this pesimistic crap in their heads…hence the LAKERS! hahaha, GO JAZZ on that note! YEAH I SAID IT!”

    What a dild$

  253. JerseyRaider Says:

    the key to the season is JaMarcus and Kiffin. Coach and QB.

    Kiffin has to show he can get the most out of the roster and not lose players like he did last year with Rhodes. And not coming across as a grumpy ingrate would be a good thing too.

    And the QB has to lead.

  254. Eyepatch Says:

    http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=6524616&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.2.1

    I smell a blowout of the Broncos in week one.

  255. RaiderTW Says:

    Joh Clayton:
    [+] EnlargeGreg Trott/Getty Images

    After spending most of 2007 on the sidelines, JaMarcus Russell will get his chance to lead the Raiders.
    JaMarcus Russell is the wild card here. No one knows whether he’s ready to be a winning starter. Last season, Lane Kiffin wisely kept him on the sidelines until late December, giving him a chance to learn without failing. Now it’s time for him to prove himself.

    —How many times have you heard critism of not starting JR before they did? I’ll bet even Clayton called the Raiders out for not getting him in there earlier.

  256. Raider Buck Says:

    Sports writers seem to write what ever to get people to read what ever trash they are spewing.

  257. Raider Buck Says:

    Except for Jerry of course :)

  258. La Milicia Negra Says:

    RaiderTW…

    how many raiders fans criticized Kiffin for not playing Jammy before he did? most here as I recall…

  259. Dakota Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    May 13th, 2008 at 7:41 am
    RaiderTW…

    how many raiders fans criticized Kiffin for not playing Jammy before he did? most here as I recall…
    _______________________________________________________

    Guilty as charged. But for good reason…we were starting The Clown!

  260. Dakota Says:

    Exla, I hope you are right. Game 5, as always, must win! I am starting to worry about the long-term consequences of Kobe’s injuries and Bynum’s knee! Okay, I am losing it. One step at a time….win against the Jazz and worry about next year when September-October rolls around.

  261. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    In case you don’t read Peter King every Monday at Si.com, here’s what he wrote about the Spires signing:

    “ I think, of all the signings the Raiders made this offseason, the one that will be most worth the money is defensive end Greg Spires, who signed a one-year deal close to the NFL minimum Saturday. Spires, one of the five best players on the field in the Bucs’ Super Bowl win over Oakland five years ago (a sack, two pass deflections), will be in the rotation at end for the Raiders and should be able to be a five- or seven-sack guy playing 20 snaps a game.”

    See, not all the press about the Raiders’ offseason has been negative.

    And in more positive pub, ESPN’s John Clayton lists the Raiders as his No. 2 “surprise team” of 2008:

    “They go from having a .516 strength of schedule to a projected .438, giving them optimism for a four-game improvement. The only team with a 2007 winning record that the Raiders will play in the first 12 games is the Chargers, in a Sept. 28 home game. Until December, they play a .395 strength of schedule. How can they not “Just win, baby”? They should have a winning record going into their final four games.”

    http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/

  262. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    I’m being moderated for post 262? I don’t get it!

  263. Dakota Says:

    Exla,

    How are they moderating you? Did they change your post in some way?

  264. La Milicia Negra Says:

    xLA…

    it could be because it contains a url, sometimes that raises the flags

  265. eyen Says:

    post 159……oh rabbitt ears, have i touched a nerve?? yeah doggie, your lakers (franchise) is a great one. why you went to the history books i dont know.i’m sure its because thats all you really have. you want to point out next round talk…JAZZ in 6 son! yeah…I SAIDWHAT IT-AGAIN! We are the best BASKETBALL team! just for that, i’m caling Spurs in 6 too! RAIDERNATION is rampant….let’s just not let others in i.e the patriot fans. TRUST me…We WILL beat SD this year! We WILL make the playoffs! WE WILL BE FEARED again! not to mention…ADMIRED! rrrrRRRRAAAAAaaidddDDEERRRS!!

  266. The Dude Says:

    The cowboys franchise has hardly been destroyed by signing players with bad reputations. It has made them a much better team. Henrys stats arent great because T.J and Chad are there and everyone knows the Bengals will pass. He would be great for the raiders.

  267. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    It just said my commemt was awaiting moderation and then it slightly delayed its posting. I did not swear or post anything offensive. And they did not change it in any way.

  268. The Dude Says:

    + Henry is from Cinncinati so is around a bad crowd that he grew up with. Bring him to Oakland let him start fresh

  269. Dakota Says:

    Exla,

    Yeah, they do that sometimes when you post a link to another site…mine usually never get through because they are non-football related most of the time, lol.

    Eyen,

    You are a Jazz fan? How is your family ranch doing in Texas? Say hi to your momma/aunt for me!

  270. Dakota Says:
    <