Ryan gets big bucks
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008 at 1:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders’ contract talks with running back Darren McFadden got a little more complicated because of the size of the deal struck by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan.
Ryan, according to the NFL Network, signed a six-year contract with $34.75 million in guaranteed money. That’s more money as the No. 3 overall pick than top pick Jake Long got from the Miami Dolphins ($30 million).
McFadden’s representatives, no doubt, will attempt to slot their pick somewhere just short of what Ryan got. They probably also took note that Raiders coach Lane Kiffin said Oakland was considering trading up to to take McFadden if they feared someone else was going to get him.
Ryan’s deal pays him more money than No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell got last year.
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May 20th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
you already know
May 20th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
RAIDERS !!!!!!!
May 20th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
LAST
May 20th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
he isnt a raider
May 20th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Whew,I thought this headline meant ROB Ryan was getting big bucks.
May 20th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
can you imgine what McFadden would do if he were paid say:
$3,000 per yard ????
i like it !!!!
May 20th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
4th , damn you Arthur Blank !
May 20th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
8th ?
May 20th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
where did u read that STU was cut
May 20th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Time for Tyvon Brnach to step his game up
May 20th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This is not good
May 20th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
STU CUT
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=26657
May 20th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Bill Callahan was wrong.
The FALCONS are the dumbest team in America.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
“Schweigert was informed of his dismissal Tuesday morning when the team returned for voluntary workouts.”
Informed = “Hey Stu, see the team bus out in the lot? Be under it.”
May 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
That Ryan might be the bust of the decade he’s already shaky and he’s gonna throw a lot picks to our guys when they come to Oakland.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Hey Ro Schem Bo, Al will have to give Stui Run-Run Jones’ old job…lol.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
McFadden should only receive a little more that what the player in his slot received last year. If his agent thinks he should get money close to what Ryan got, he should have to turn in his license.
Hold out here we come…Al, maybe you will have to cut some more guys to sign McFadden? May I suggest Rob Ryan?
May 20th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
We can’t afford that kind of money! The team can’t drop off that much from the total Ryan got! McFadden is going to want more aaaaaaaaagggggggghhhh!
May 20th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
THANK YOU DOE DOE
May 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
LOL @ Quag
May 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
“Schweigert was informed of his dismissal Tuesday morning when the team returned for voluntary workouts.”
Informed = “Hey Stu, see the team bus out in the lot? Be under it.”
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good one…
May 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
McFadden deserves what he wants
May 20th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Spawn no he doesn’t! He deserves a DECENT salary. He has to earn #1 money.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
he could have her
May 20th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
In an uncapped year you can bet Al will offer up all our sisters.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
24th
May 20th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Mcfadden is the man decent my ass
May 20th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I wonder what Stu will say about the Raiders?
Maybe:
“Oakland? Man, I loved it there. I mean, Rob Ryan let us have pizza parties and naps during team meetings and I never had to practice tackling or even angles of pursuit! Heck, it was a great work environment. Very little was expected of me and I performed up to Rob Ryan’s expectations! Everything was just fine till that little weasel Kiffin arrived and raised expectations. Rob went to bat for us after last season and tried to convince Al to let him be the head coach, but I guess Rob failed at that too. Oh well, I like Denver better anyhow.”
May 20th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
If you’re a draft pick and wanna get paid, go to the Falcons. They will pay top $$$!
As far as McFadden, odds are, he’ll get about $32 in guaranteed money after Atlanta’s horrendous deal.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
McFadden will get signed on time. If AD jumps all over giving one-leg Walker big money, DMC will get whatever his heart desires..
May 20th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
As far as McFadden, odds are, he’ll get about $32 MILLION in guaranteed money after Atlanta’s horrendous deal.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
for how many years
May 20th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Look guys, who cares how much DMC gets? Al is the only owner to realize it big contracts mean SQUAT once the cap is gone. Thats why he is the visionary Al Davis, signing good players to backloaded contracts like he is printing money.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
BaaaaaaaaaaaaVISIONARYALDAVISaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
May 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
He is the man, but you pay the player to the slot he fell to. The Falcons are idiots to give Ryan that much money at 3. That obligates us to pay way more out of pocket! We were estimated to pay 10 million less than what Ryan received no we have to get closer to the deal he received. (what if he asks for more?) say goodbye to your favorite raiders! Raiders roster equals J-Mac and D-Mac and that’s all folks
May 20th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
There will be a salary cap in place in 2011 or there will be no football…so how will all of these back loaded contract affect us then? Didn’t the 49ers do this in the 90s and eventually it caught up to them???
May 20th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
32M huh? According to my calculations, that’s more than JaMarcus got.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
You hope there is a capless year. I’m going on right now not maybes
May 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
No Dakota, they will play in 2011 without a cap. Likely to be a luxury tax as in baseball, and Al will be praised for loading up on talent BEFORE the uncapped years. There will be no more “dead money” if you cut an underperforming Walker, Kelly, etc.
Whether we WIN with the extra talent is another q…
May 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Hey, where is that poster that said Charlton Heston got what he deserved (Alzheimer’s and death) for dedicating his life to promoting guns? Don’t you have anything to say about Teddy Kennedy?
May 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
I hope Stu starts in the AFC West somewhere, without williams here to miss blocks and stu wiffin’ Fargas and DMC are gonna break a bunch of long ones.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Speking of uncapped, can’t Al afford a decent dentist? His press conferences make me floss…
May 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
that’s way too much, he hasn’t even played a preseason down yet. these dudes are running an f’in racket!
May 20th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Finally Stu gets cut and gets what he deserves!!!!!!!!
I am glad that i will not have to see him whiff on any more tackles. The d just got better!
May 20th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
That contract is ludicrous. The only way it makes sense is if the non-guaranteed money isn’t that great. That’s probably the case since Ryan isn’t expected to be a problem with off-the-field issues, so the Falcons will likely pay him his full contract anyway unless he’s beyond atrocious.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Darren McFadden will be a damn rich rookie.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
well we dont want what happen last season losing our 1st round more than half the season..
so we need to sign this kid now
May 20th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Al Davis has a damn good dentist.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Charlton Heston? Dakota you’ve been sniffing too much Soylant Brown. Like most gun freaks, he was just compensating for his (real or imagined) undescended testicle.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Dakota is right these contracts are going to kill us in 3 yrs! I’m not happy I want to bitch! Don’t let the door hit you Stu… Oh why not! stand there sucka
May 20th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
May 20th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
No Dakota, they will play in 2011 without a cap.
Wrong, there will be no cap in the 2010 season which ends in 2011, so again, there will be no football in the 2011-2012 season without a cap, so how will all of these prorated signing bonuses affect us when the new cap is put in place for the 2011-2012 season?
May 20th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
The Players Union is going to prevent the capless yrs to happen they are working on it right now
May 20th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
You think there will actually be a lockout that lasts in 2011? Fat chance.
They will negotiate an agreement that does not include a cap, but helps the low-income teams with a luxury tax. The players will get the same free agency rights, and a guaranteed minumum amount of revenue. BUT there will be no limit to spending, just disincentives, and no dead money or salary cap hell.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
WOW No1: I am staggered that the Falcons are paying Ryan that much. I thought they would cut a deal about $27m with a lot of performance bonus options (SuperBowl, ProBowl, etc.). $34m is just a vast over-payment for a QB with so much to prove and one with a performance ceiling way lower than JaMarcus. Brady Quinn must be spitting tacks - as he would have been graded higher than Ryan if leaving this year.
The Raiders will now struggle to hold McFadden below $30m - the best option may be to cut the guarantee in favour of some stellar bonuses.
WOW No2: A swift and unsentimental decision about Stu Schweigert. A truly nice guy, a 100% effort player and just an example of someone whose talent level was just that little too low for the NFL. This is not the time to criticise Stu. Lets thank him for the commitment and wish him well.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Wonder if AD is putting up anymore non-voting shares up for sale so he can sign McFadden?
May 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Keep in mind, the NFL owners usually come out on top in these things, so it is likely that the cap will actually be a smaller percentage of revenues than it is right now, so unless NFL revenues go way up, the cap is likely to actually get smaller…so again, how will these deals hurt us in years to come?
Scottish, were are you?
May 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Hey Bo, Charlton Heston had more courage than you’ll ever have, keep the faith Raider Nation
May 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Where…ooops me English aint to gud.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
The NFLPA has had it WAY too good for years, when compared to other major sports. The owners know it and so does Al.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Charlton Heston was an ACTOR, with no measurable courage. Separate movies from reality, and go Raiders.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I honestly don’t think that will happen. parity in the NFL will desolve.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
The rookies are going to get their money now before a rookie salary scale kicks in like in the NBA.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Dakota, any cap will be similar to the NBA, meaning no dead money. There may be a yearly minimum and maximum, but each year will be independent. If Kelly or Walker suck, they are cut with no lingering financial consequences.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Anyone heard from Tommy Trojan?
May 20th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
And the cap will NOT get smaller. The owners almost uniformly want to spend more and protect parity by spreading revenue to small market teams.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
BSJ,
You think the owners are going to allow a capless league where high revenue owners can raise the market value of players, thereby allowing certain teams to accumulate all the talent and effectively ending the NFLs ability to claim parity and retain fan interest year in and out?
Fat chance.
There will be a cap, and it will be a smaller percentage of gross revenue. There will also be a rookie salary cap. Maybe the NFL throws Upshaw a bone and grants more secure contracts for veteran players.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Hmmm NBA …. $5000 End Zone seats sounds great! (Crap)
May 20th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I can just here the conversation. “Stu, we wanted to tell you this in person, not by a 3rd party. Oh by the way, do you have your playbook?”
The four-year veteran got the news when he arrived for voluntary workouts on Tuesday. He was due to earn a base salary of $2.6 million in 2008, and $545,000 in 2009.
May 20th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
whats up nation good thing this post is about the falcons cuz i was trippin
May 20th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Sorry gang, this is a football blog, but a nerve was struck and I got sidetracked. Our RAIDAHS!!! are gonna kick some serious AFC West butt this year and also serve notice to the rest of the league…
May 20th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
I am well aware of the difference between reality and the ficticious world of Hollywood Bo, Mr. Heston’s courage came from sticking by his convictions just as you have a right to voice your opinions, secured, by the way, by the second amendment and peolpe such as Charlton Heaston. Go Raiders loyal RAIDAHS fan!!
May 20th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
And you’re right, you think Al could find a decent dentist!!
May 20th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Stu wasnt that bad, neither Sims. But honestly i dont gonna missed them.
The only bad thing of this, its Now whos gonna be guilty about all the bad things in the Nation.
The strongest candidates now are: Rob Ryan, Kwayne Harris, Robert Gallery, and maybe Michael Huff or Lane Kiffin.
May 20th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
I forget to mention Terdel Sands, i think next year, all of us are going to hate that fat ass
May 20th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Also we are going to hate J. Walker and/or T. Kelly
May 20th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Bye, bye all stu jokes, hello t.sands jokes
May 20th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
This is where speed would have counted for something, like signing him before the Quarterback. It really ok though, he’s not a Quarterback. The money would fall no more than 10 percent above a straight line between 2 and 5. That’s it, sit out a year and you might make money next year from somebody else but McFadden will never get a full years pay back. So a generous offer would be 10 percent more than the 2 to 5 numbers.
May 20th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Ryan is a QB.
Everyone knows that QBs make more money than any other position.
Al Davis demonstrated last season that he would accept a holdout from the #1 overall pick rather than give in to the unreasonable demand that all “guaranteed” money be an option bonus. This was in marked contrast to the tradition of the Raiders signing their draft picks.
Ergo, McFadden’s agents are on notice that he’ll get a contract within reason, but not more. In his presser, McFadden was asked if he intended to be in camp on time, and he said that was his intention. When the followup came, asking whether he would instruct his agents to getthe deal done so he could be on the field, he said, “Yes, sir.”
May 20th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
1. McFadden is not a Quarterback and shouldn’t think he’s going to get Quarterback money. 2. If McFadden is not a team player, it’s good we find out now. 3. The regular money is available but not the Ryan money, period. 4. McFadden will never make back a years pay if he sits out a year. 5. Getting a 33 next year to make up for it, is better than being held hostage.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
man..the dirty birds are stupid to pay ryan that much more than the #1 overall pick Long and more than JMarc last year. What is wrong with the ATL?? Weirdos…
May 20th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Stupid Atlanta Falcons. Upsetting the salery structure when they could have just slotted him in somewhere between Dorsey and McFadden. What was he going to to, go play in the arena legue?
May 20th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Stu,
You gave it your best and that was not enough in Oakland. You played hard but also made some whiffs that forced the coaches to have you take a seat. It’s not all on you. The Raider D-line did’nt do you any favors, nor did some of the game plans. But the blame falls on you because the safety must make the play when others don’t. You know this. So do the fans. Learn from it. A fresh start elsewhere will do you much good. Thanks for your effort and good luck in the future.
RW
May 20th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Jerry: becareful w/headlines. I thought it was Rob Ryan!!!! I was thinking his only year of a good defense was when we had the worst offense in NFL history. Every team (except dumb ass steelers) ran because they didn’t want to chance a turnover. THey knew we couldn’t put up 10pts so why do anything risky. They scored on the first drive of every game at will and then went conservative. We thought Ryan did a good job. hahahahha
I do like him, personally, though.
ILL RAIDER
May 20th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
I just read that sims wasn’t that bad. are you f’n kidding me. how about a 6 min drive, into opponent territory, all going well and then (whistle blows), “illegal procedure, number 65, OFFENSE. 1ST AND 20″ Good bye drive! or a 20 yard pass play, announcers say, but there is a flag down. Officials say, “holding, number 65, offense!” 1st and 25. GOd forbid he doesn’t hold and then you hear the announcer say, “down goes (add in qb name) for a 7 yard sack. BOy, (add in DE name) really came hard around the corner to crush (add in qb name). What a great defensive play!” Every DE who played against Sims has hall of fame numbers because of sims.
ILL RAIDER
May 20th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
Rick: Well said!
ILL RAIDER
He was a tough guy
May 20th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Three words: rookie salary cap.
This is beyond ridiculous, paying mega-salaries to kids who haven’t played a minute in the NFL yet. Somebody please stop this madness.
G.
“Pillaging just for fun”
May 21st, 2008 at 1:08 am
What this means for us is if McFadden’s agents aren’t willing to do a reasonable deal based on a 5-10% increase in gauranteed money for the #4 guy last year, then we have to hold firm and let Chris Long sign at 2 and Glen Dorsey at 5 - that might involve waiting for lower picks to start signing - McFadden might be a holdout for a week or two - he was arguably the biggest name/best talent in the draft, so we’re going to have deal with the “hype premium” as well. I’d rather he held out for a month then pay him based on Atlanta’s desperate deal with that no talent a## clown Matt Ryan. What a stupid franchise - just say no - wait for the others to sign around you and work from there. We should have been golden with the number 1 only taking 30 million and already being under contract - this should have been quick and painless.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:21 am
Ryan = overrated, and he stole JaMarcus’s number, I hope he is playing when we play Atl, unless our defense sucks.
May 21st, 2008 at 9:02 am
Good luck to Chris Carr with the titans, his comments about not winning a lot of games in Oakland is kind of strange though since he contributed to all those losses at least the 3 years he was here.
May 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pm
thats why ONE OF MAIN REASONS the owners opted out of the CBA is to get a freakin rookie salary cap…pronto!
May 21st, 2008 at 1:12 pm
So what the heck was Lane thinking then?!?! Say that stuff AFTER he’s signed.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Spend more and more and more money on so called “talented” peeps. You guys are the Jokes of the NFL. Another 4-12 year for the one eyed pirate hookers. Sorry Faider Nation.