Low-key Lane
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, May 23rd, 2008 at 2:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.
It was about 30 minutes or so into the Raiders’ practice Thursday at the so-called organized team activity when someone asked, “Where’s Kiffin?”
I had no idea. Hadn’t heard him, seen him or even looked for him while checking off roster numbers to get an idea of who showed up and who didn’t to the voluntary workout.
I looked harder, and there he was, standing alone, taking it all in, no more noticeable than than a member of the support staff charged with making sure there was a constant supply of footballs.
Which brings us to the column in today’s Oakland Tribune and Contra Costa Times written by Gary Peterson (misidentified initially on the Internet as having been authored by Steve Corkran).
As you probably already know, Peterson came to practice Thursday, watched low-key Lane’s act and surmised the coach knows he is on the clock and is simply awaiting the offer of a cigarette and blindfold.
Bringing up much of the tumultuous offseason as a backdrop _ the non-firing of Rob Ryan, the hiring of James Lofton, the wardrobe selection at the Senior Bowl, etc., etc., etc. _ Peterson used his license as a columnist to reach his conclusions.
I can state with certainty that less than three months ago, Kiffin really didn’t know if he would be the Raiders coach in 2008. As to what Al Davis was thinking, I would be far less certain, but can give at least an educated guess.
The owner probably thought the kid coach was being pretty ungrateful for having been given the opportunity of a lifetime, responding with a 4-12 record, and then telling the boss the best way to go about fixing his sorry franchise.
Probably not Kiffin’s best move, in retrospect.
But Kiffin, rather than quit in anger, dug in his heels and kept coming to work. He accepted his medicine, gave his input, and watched as Davis went on a spending spree to remake a roster Kiffin has said publicly was short on talent.
How much Davis listened to Kiffin, only he knows. And he’s not saying. Whether Kiffin agreed with every move, only he knows. And he’s not saying.
But there is no denying Kiffin has much more talent at his disposal, not to mention a far less daunting schedule.
He is continuing to run the offense he wants, a zone-blocking running game combined with rollouts and safe passes designed to build passing percentage, before layering in the deep strikes Davis loves.
Kiffin’s on-field demeanor has been a topic of discussion among those of us who have been at the rookie minicamp and OTAs. I’m not ready to think it’s overly significant for a few reasons.
First, Kiffin wasn’t exactly a fireball last season until training camp hit. He was similar to what we’ve seen so far _ wandering from position group to position group, supervising rather than dominating, allowing his assistants to do their work. The practice tempo hasn’t changed.
Whether Kiffin will appear more authoritative when the Raiders adjourn to Napa is anybody’s guess. He might not feel he needs to come on as strong with a program already in place. And while I may be in the minority here, I thought at times last year his enthusiasm looked forced, almost contrived, as if he were trying to resurrect Jon Gruden.
Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian used to journey to Tampa each year to study offense with Gruden, and there were times it seemed as if Lane was operating straight out of the Chucky handbook.
The problem is, Kiffin is not Gruden in terms of personality. Having done extensive background on Kiffin when he was hired, talking to old high school coaches, former teammates, coaching colleagues and family members, he is more to the Tony Dungy or Bill Belichick side of the scale than Gruden.
What Peterson sees as Kiffin “marking time” could be the coach simply showing more of his true self.
I didn’t even notice Kiffin wasn’t wearing a Raiders emblem Thursday, and while I have no doubt he was sending a message not wearing the shield during the Senior Bowl, he has worn Raiders gear publicly in recent weeks.
For now, the worst is over and everyone seems to have moved on and is concentrating on 2008.
It is going to be all about how the Raiders perform, whether they can stop the run and at the same time get an efficient performance from a quarterback in his first full season as a starter.
A poor start, and Kiffin could be shown the door before midseason, because the players will be out for themselves, knowing the coach is a short-timer. Kiffin is the only Raiders coach under Davis to survive a 12-loss season. He won’t do it a second time.
A good start and a winning season, and Davis will at some point make a public appearance and tell everyone how good he is at identifying young coaching talent.
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May 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm
O.K. then
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
hmmm
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Heres what the Viqueens did with the picks for Moss.
Armed with two picks, thanks to the Randy Moss trade, the Vikings landed receiver Troy Williamson and defensive end Erasmus James.
Three years later, both are gone.
Williamson was traded to the Jaguars for a half-pack of M&Ms, and James was waived on Friday. The move came after the oft-injured James failed a physical.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Kiffin is the right coach for the Raiders. Can anyone attribute any of last years losses to a bad coaching decision. There were plenty throughout the league last year, but none I can recall with the raiders. Continuing to change coahes will just prolong the losing.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Just get it over with Baby.
Go Raiders
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Ian…I agree, to this extent…if the coach has “the ear” of his team and progress is made, then stay with the Man.
System continuity has a snowball effect thru-out the entire organization.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Lane Kiffin actually had the balls to say what talent was really on the roster. He was clear that the Raiders did not have to worry about players not making the 53 man roster being taken by other teams. There certainly was not an excess of talent.
Rob Ryan on the other hand is kidding himself and anyone esle when he sings the praises of his mediocre defensive players. The guy is a cheerleader and probably too much of a players coach. I think his schemes could use some work, but more importantly the Raiders need a defensive coordinator that holds his players accountable. I think a couple of “bad cop” type coaches on the staff woulf compliment Kiffin.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Exactly raiderlen we are on the right cant go wrong with guys like that on your team. Even if they are the 3rd string who probably wont play. Its the attitude around that decision that is gonna make our team better.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Whatever,…wake me up when the season starts.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
If you look on the raiders.com site and view thursday’s interview with Kiffin, is that a raider emblem below the neckline of his shirt?
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Jerry Mac… Thanx again for the good work, and putting this Kiffin’s body language nonsense to rest.
Do tou have any comment on Corkran’s earlier post here. That basically threw Peterson under the bus??
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
*you* errrr..
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Lane Kiffin is a used car salesman.
He is an ingrate.
He is not a leader of men.
He must go.
Al is God. Kiffin’s a fraud.
Just Win Baby.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
I hear Art is still for employment. He plays a mean bad cop.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
As the kids say today…
…It is what it is.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
i love talking football i am already gettting “the fever” cant wait until we whallop the donkeys on that first monday night. to me every sunday is superbowl sunday as long as the silver and black lace em’ up!
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Fire Kiffin…Help Me out…why is Kiffin a problem.
Thanks in advance.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
“A good start and a winning season, and Davis will at some point make a public appearance and tell everyone how good he is at identifying young coaching talent.”
Ummm…Jerry, when has this have ever happened? I realize you hate Al Davis, but let’s not make up crap like your head cheerleader mmmmm-k?
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
…which is to say, not much.
Body language!?!
This is the bigs, people.
Kiffin is the coach. If they don’t win, he won’t be next year.
There’s really not much else to say, is there?
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Al is good enough to win with or without Kiff. Its time to get on board the bandwagon.
You wont enjoy this season if you whine and moan all year long.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Seatown…Can’t wait to see the “new” O and the revamped D. It’s like being a kid at Christmas.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm
maddenraiderslapper: Al has done this many times. Don’t be so protective of the old goat — he doesn’t need your help.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
How can these guys report whats happening behind the shield when the Raiders are the most secretive franchise out there. Peterson’s piece today tells of (body language)?and sources ? It sounds like a tabloid reporter speculating on Britney Spears’ next rehab stint. I would like to know how the running backs and wide outs fared in practice than this kind of stuff. Kiffin will get his shot to prove if he’s head coach or still an apprentice in this league, Al will decide that for sure. It’s still early and you can begin the Kiffen hot seat watch as soon as he loses two in a row. This kind of conjecture is why Raider fans are so paranoid and frustrated.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Andrews Mom…whining is for men. PLEASE (foreplay) moaning is for Women. Crap! Alright.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Good job Jerry. Kiffin will have to earn his keep this year; however, the schedule could not have broke too much better for him. I think he will survive this season. The Raiders have above average talent and I think the coaching staff is capable of getting them ready to win ball games.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:29 pm
“I have no doubt he was sending a message not wearing the shield during the Senior Bowl.”
Jerry, Mike Nolan is wearing the same Under Armour gear during the game that Kiffin did. Is it possible that they were required to wear Under Armour because they sponsored the senior bowl?
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Davis Sends Message with Aggressive Moves
by Christopher Scheer
Here’s what’s weird about my Raiders these days: You could summarize their last season in a single sentence – “Not good, but some hopeful signs” – but it would take a Tolstoy a thousand pages to do justice to their offseason.
We only significantly less space here, but we’ll do our best to grapple with a bizarre few months which started with media reports telling us defensive coordinator Rob “Department Store Santa” Ryan had been fired, only he hadn’t been, then telling us head coach Lane “The Kid” Kiffin would soon be fired, only he wasn’t either, then telling us nobody would come to the cash-strapped, chaotically run Raiders – before Al “Who Said I Was Dead?” Davis went on one of the all-time free agent spending sprees.
Before the draft, Davis had already netted top safety Gibril Wilson, fallen first round LT Kwame Harris (from across the Bay), DE Kalimba Edwards, on-again-off-again WR Javon Walker (to huge $$), veteran center John Wade, and role players WR Drew Carter and DT William Joseph. Overshadowing all of these, however, was the blockbuster trade for Pro Bowl cornerback DeAngelo Hall, a potentially amazing bookend to pair with home-grown stud Nnamdi Asomugha for years to come.
Add to this the resigning of breakthrough running back Justin Fargas, the return of a healthy RB Michael Bush, the re-signing to big money of DT Tommy Kelly and the #4 pick in the NFL draft, and you have a the makings of lively off-season. The national media rather predictably panned the Raiders’ moves, citing chaos inside the team’s Alameda HQ and claiming they overpaid mediocre players to come to the East Bay. They even trashed Hall as overrated.
Whatever. It’s not my money, and the Raiders have never been bothered by a salary cap that is likely to be phased out after next season anyway. Davis is clearly upping the ante for his besieged coaches, no doubt miserable about the recent dismal stretch of that began at kickoff of the 2003 Super Bowl. He’s saying, here are your damn thoroughbreds, now get me into the playoffs.
If it doesn’t work, we can at least look forward to another pyrotechnic offseason next Spring!
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:30 pm
alright every1 have a good nite ill check in with u 2moro u guys have been a big help for me as i await 2 level lumbar fusion in the coming month or two. So I may be out for the night but “I’M IN 4 LIFE!”
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:31 pm
RaiderLen - Show some respect.
Andrew’s mom is the bomb.
Just win baby.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Post #26…Madden Raider Slapper…Stop that! That would make too much sense.
Didn’t know that by the way. Thanks.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
chill the f out Says:
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm
maddenraiderslapper: Al has done this many times. Don’t be so protective of the old goat — he doesn’t need your help.
—-
Sure, right when you get off Jerry’s beanbag. Al Davis is a guy who RARELY gives press conferences, yet I’m all ears to know when Al came out early in Gruden’s tenure, Flores or Madden’s time as well, and said ‘Look at me, I found a great young coaching talent, so shower me with praises’ I mean if it’s happened many times, it shouldn’t be too hard to give me some feedback as to when it ACTUALLY happened.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
whats up with Namdi. When will this kid get his doe. He is better than D. Hall and he is a stand up guy.
Also what up with Jason Taylor, he is worth a 09 second rd pick: get him on the other side of Burgess. Granted the raiders will be really soft against the run, but Kiffin is supposed to be a an offensive guru that can score points: especially with the infusion of talent Al got him: Javon Walker, McFadden, Drew Carter…and to a lesser extent Kwame Harris at LT.
I am excited about the 4th rd pick Arman Shields. when I saw he ranked at the top of almost every combine workout measurable, I instantly realized that the Raiders found a diamond in the rough. Granted he has done little on the field: Richmond University, but it is up to the coaches to coach the kid. He seems like a bright kid, and he obviously is a hard worker based off his workout results.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Fire Kiffin…Ok..certainly no disrespect intended.
Andrew’s Mom…My apologies?
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Hey Len you’re welcome, within the first 10 seconds of this clip, you’ll see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2laN7_enwQQ
It’s amazing what a little research does for a person. If only the media tried it once in awhile.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
If you look at the football dynasties throughout the existence of the NFL, the one thing those teams had in common was stability. The Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys, even the old Dolphins (hate em). We might’ve had as many headcoaches as all those teams combined. Something’s wrong with that. Like I said last blog, the only thing thats been consistant with the Raiders are the uniforms. We need the evolving door of headcoaches to be closed for at least 3-4yrs so that the players dont have to keep learning new playbooks every year like rookies and can actually perfect the system they’re currently in. For the love of GOD please create a stable environment so we can become a Dynasty and reign dominant for years rather than go 12-4 one year, then go 3-13 the next year, then 9-7 the following year. Yet,,, I still love the Raiders. YA KNOW?!
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:41 pm
MaddenRaider Slapper
was Nolan given a resignation letter to, he has no forty niner emblem on, what’s up with that?
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Slapper…Thanks…Do You realize that NOLAN may be fired any day now. Hell the RAIDERS ARE GONNA HIRE HIM. He was wearing Black afterall.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Hunter…You are absolutely right…gotta have a stable coaching situation. the raiders success has always followed this path.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:45 pm
No need to apoligize. Just your veggies and get on board
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Maybe when the so called “Media”, has access at the mini. Kiff should put a sheild decal, smack dab in the middle of his forehead.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Post #36, I can state with certainty that Nolan was given a resignation letter. And when I say ’state with certainty’ I mean I’m making it up.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Andrews Mom… I’m In… : )
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
#41 Slapper…LOL
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Obviously, changing coaches every year makes it tough to get in a groove. Al’s been changing coaches like he’s on rock of love. We need to get a system in and stay with it .
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Al says dynasties are overated. The real test of a team is its ability to go to the SB or dam close to it on a more consistent basis throughout the decades.
The flounders, crackboys and gayniners all suck. Al would slap you with his cane for comparing the Raiders to such vapid whores.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Nice response, Jerry. Reasoned analysis always resonates more true than the sort of vitriolic tosh written by Peterson.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
“vapid whores”….. LOL…
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
This team is still weak in the offensive and defensive lines. They will probably win 4 or 5 games this season and we will have another head coach for 2009.
Kiffin just shows he is unhappy but cannot leave.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
4FER…Yes…Competent or Great CONTINUITY…lets not re-invent the wheel every other year or so.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Jerry, your OTA Wrap was weak, like you weren’t even there. After reading Petersen’s article, yours seems even weaker.
You didn’t notice Kiffin wasn’t wearing Raider gear???? After all the off-season talk???
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Raider Len, you’re “in” Andrew’s mom?
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Manu Gianobli, has a ripped off fingernail ooouch… On his shooting hand..
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:07 pm
O’Shea…The D was weak against the run
The O ran the ball real well.
So if We can give up fewer sacks and contain the run we might be pretty good.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Thats hillarious. Nolan didnt even have on any S.F. colors, Gold or Pink…I mean Red.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
909, and the growing bald spot to prove it.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Jerry, why would anybody, particularly someone who coaches at USC, seek guidance from YOUR BOY, Jon Gruden about Offensive football?
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Quags..LOL…NO… I’m on her bandwagon…was the a metaphorical reference by Her?…I wonder…
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
#54 Tay…Pink…LOL
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Oh, ok….just checkin’, RaiderLen…lol.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Jerry, since ALL THINGS RAIDER stops at Al Davis’s desk, why do you ignore him as a topic?
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:16 pm
KK, cause Jerry has a well-documented, secret man-crush on Al’s wrinkled ass, but he just won’t give him the time of day…lol.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
You gotta to be kiddin. Now were analyzing Body gesture to get a story out. Can Gary Peterson be any more of a Raider Hater. Thanks Jerry for laying it on the line. If the Raiders lose .. Kiff will be gone. If they win Al will need to kiss and make up to keep him. Does anyone remember Bill Callahan, Art Shell. Not just anyone can be a head coach and I’m sure the only thing G. Peterson has ever done is been the water boy for his middle school badminton team.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
I think Jerry sleeps better at night when he isnt worried that Al may go RayLewis on him.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I realize the Raiders are a major advertiser, but does that trump journalistic integrity?
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
How foolish of me, of course it does.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Gary Peterson is an idiot , period. I wander if anybody in the media saw the senior bowl. If so, I wander how much is being said of Mike Nolan (who coached against Lane Kiffin in that game)wearing a Raiders colors Under Armor jacket just like Lane Kiffin?
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Lets set one thing straight.
Al aint slapping nobody with his cane. He cant lift it to begin with.
Those teams mentioned before were examples not comparisons. I know the Raiders are in a class by itself. But the truth is those teams did it the right way, even though we may hate those teams they still kept all the players and coaches on the same page, and thats something we need to do.
Yet,,, I still love the Raider Nation. YA KNOW?!
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Im not related to Gary Peterson.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
66, you’re a little late on that, look at post #34
But nice post anyway, LOL
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Jerry and his paper, slink around with their tails between their legs, when it comes to asking tough questions regarding the Raiders.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Kevn — vitriolic tosh. That was perfect.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:32 pm
It seems to me, Lane Kiffin is just one of about 30 other head coaches on the hot seat in 2008,…I never put any weight on what a media hack writes,..they have no sources,..make things up…are without credibility,..hated and ignored by all players and staff of pro sports teams,…players and coaches only get interviewed when required to…media days and whatnot…for fans these days to believe anything written by sports writers is silly.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Then Scott, where do you get your info from?
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm
The National Inquirer.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Ahhh!
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Once again they figured out how to get attention. GP probably lives in SF
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Honestly,..I remember at the combine,..Jerry peeking around corners of hotel lobby,..hiding by elevators,..trying to snare Kiffin for a chat,…when he was ignored he took it out on the coach in this blog and in his fishwrap for quite a while…thats an example of the typical sports writer.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:43 pm
For that weirdo GP to write about body language,..crap like that,..shows hes a clueless person,..grasping at anything,…in my opinion, Kiffin is thrilled he was not canned after going 4-12,..presented with superior talent in the offseason,..drafted the stud running back that he wanted,…just because Kiffin wasnt seen doing cartwheels at the OTA Gary Peterson came to the conclusion hes sad and getting ready to be fired,..total hogwash….Garys an idiot and other sportswriters now know it.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 pm
If I gave you a typical example of the fan who consumes the product of sports writers, it would be just as silly.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:48 pm
@KoolKell:
“Jerry and his paper, slink around with their tails between their legs, when it comes to asking tough questions regarding the Raiders.”
How interesting is it to hear “No comment” 5,000 times in a row no matter WHAT kind of question you ask?
I’d like better info too, but until Uncle Al passes, it just ain’t gonna happen.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Sam,
Pointed articles regarding The operation of the Raiders would force the organization to respond. Being intimidated by the advertising dollars does not inform the fans.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Moobs,…how about dont ask questions then?…Jerry and the others dont deserve anything but a no comment,…they twist things,..lie,..make things up,…I applaud the Raiders for not giving them jack squat.
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
koolkell, the ota coverage left me wanting more… it did fell like jerry wasn’t there. barely a peep about the running backs.
since ota start, we haven’t heard anything on the line, d’hall, fargas, how warren is looking, etc.
I know there isn’t a ton of activity, but some quick snippets on more of the none rook’s would be nice.
last years ota coverage was great… the reason I started coming back every day. this years is more of a drive by approach. just enough to shut us up.
I hope traning camp is better.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Kiffins got to be loving this and playing head games with the writers
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Good post Jerry,
the media wants to keep bringing this up because it is a story.
1) Kiffin and Davis are not “best friends.”
But I don’t think thats what you want in the NFL anyway, at least Kiffin has enough balls to stand up to Davis, and Davis has keept the coach. = 50-50 so far.
Listen if big Al wanted Kiffin gone, it would have happened by now, why is the media missing that?
For God sakes the man (Al Davis) drafted a KICKER in the first round, he will do whatever he wants. If Kiffin was going to be fired, he would have fired the man.
this maybe just maybe will be a match made in heaven if the Raiders start winning games.
Jon Madden
“winning is the perfect deoderant.”
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I don’t belive that the Raiders would pull ad dollars from a newspaper because of something somebody wrote.
Unless of course the stadium is sold out and the season ticket base is 60,000.
Jerry is not “slinking around” He’s reporting what He see’s (from his perspective) within the exposure the Raiders provide.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:07 pm
ShawnRaiders81…Yep
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:09 pm
if the Raiders start winning some games……..
Jerrys posts will be …..
“Kiffin and Davis seen kissing eachother in the press box.”
the media, ESPN, NFL network will all jump on the bandwagon.
Don’t you see the media will never be wrong, they just jump on the easy side and act like they had everything figured out in the first place.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm
don’t forget the media had said Rob ryan was fired…
not the Raiders.
When the story never happened, who had to take the fall?
Al Davis vs. Lane Kiffin =
TOTAL SPECULATION, i’m not saying Lane and Al saw eye to eye. but about what? no one knows.
I do know if Davis wanted Kiffin fired it would have happened.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Al Davis drafts “The Foundation” ,and locks him out of camp, depriving him precious development coming into this year. (wasted year)
Al Davis goes out this season, brings in noted head cases DeAngelo Hall and Javon Walker, then very publicly castrates his very young coach, can you say Undermine? (Randy Moss perhaps)
No need to applaud a 19-61 record over the last 5 years.
No need to applaud a losing overall record since the advent of Free Agency.
No need applauding 5 coaches in the last 6 years.
You need to be asking questions and, asking for better.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Well as a Raider fan i am going to fire Al Davis
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:40 pm
KK…19-61 speaks for itself. 5 coaches in the last 6 years assures turmoil.
I do believe however Hall and Walker need to be “judged” on what they say, do and contribute from here on out.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:46 pm
I hope for the best. But you shouldn’t be weakening your coach when he has to deal with guys like that.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Great write up as always, Jerry.
http://mvn.com/nfl-raiders/
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:55 pm
KK..I hope for the best too. Lane Kiffin is a grown Man. It’s my opinion that any coach will have His preference as to the personell provided…but to suggest that He is weakend..if true… would indicate that He’s not the Man for the job.
Based on recent history, cutting scholorship players etc…I think Kiffen has the balls to stare down any prima donnas
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:04 pm
No, he’s weakened because it’s widely reported Al Davis has asked for his resignation.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:15 pm
How so? How is He weakened. Everybody in the Raider organization know’s the buck stops with Al.
It’s always been that way.
The players gotta play…and they will play for Kiffen.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
To follow up…Hell the player played for Shell and (susie homemaker what’s His name.) Walsh.
Other than Moss. loser.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
If you call 19-61 playing, so be it.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
no…i call that 5 coaches in 6 years.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:31 pm
KK…what I would like to see is 1 coach for 10 Years and a 110 - 50.
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
KK - What I would like to see…is some of your legendary, world famous, Koolkell RAP.
Just win Baby.
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:03 pm
so wassup raidernation we have a new generalation
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:19 pm
How ’bout this…have some real Bay Area folks get in there and cover the team, and not these quasi surburbanites who weren’t even in the Bay Area the first time the Raiders were here…
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:49 pm
I read the article by Gary this morning when I opened up the paper. Given the manner in which it was written, it could easily be said that he is just another “media guy” piling on the team and its coach. I’m sure that’s exactly what many Raiders faithful felt when they read the article.
But, here is what makes more sense: in a bay area market where there is no playoff basketball team, and the two baseball teams are full of guys that you could sit next to in a bar a never know they are MLB players, the paper needed to make “news”. A narrative built outward from the well-publicized strife of the offseason between Kiffin and Davis can be easily constructed. What’s more, if one mentions any rift between the coach and Davis, people involuntarily conjure up all the beliefs about the oppressive dictator (Davis) that they’ve been told to believe. Kiffin is a likeable guy for the average joe, so most people will take his side. If the reader takes Kiffin’s side, then they have a vested emotional interest in hoping/believing he can turn things around…yada yada yada
What all this means is that a story like this makes for great drama and will sell newspapers, regardless if it is based in fact or not.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:07 pm
The only inflammatory thing in that article was the title of it. The article itself was nothing but a hit-job of old news and conjecture.
Just another alleged journalist I won’t read, knowing he won’t present a (mostly) fair piece of work.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Andrews mom Says:
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Al says dynasties are overated. The real test of a team is its ability to go to the SB or dam close to it on a more consistent basis throughout the decades.
The flounders, crackboys and gayniners all suck. Al would slap you with his cane for comparing the Raiders to such vapid whores.
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bay sports publishing Says:
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Davis Sends Message with Aggressive Moves
by Christopher Scheer
Here’s what’s weird about my Raiders these days: You could summarize their last season in a single sentence – “Not good, but some hopeful signs” – but it would take a Tolstoy a thousand pages to do justice to their offseason.
We only significantly less space here, but we’ll do our best to grapple with a bizarre few months which started with media reports telling us defensive coordinator Rob “Department Store Santa” Ryan had been fired, only he hadn’t been, then telling us head coach Lane “The Kid” Kiffin would soon be fired, only he wasn’t either, then telling us nobody would come to the cash-strapped, chaotically run Raiders – before Al “Who Said I Was Dead?” Davis went on one of the all-time free agent spending sprees.
Before the draft, Davis had already netted top safety Gibril Wilson, fallen first round LT Kwame Harris (from across the Bay), DE Kalimba Edwards, on-again-off-again WR Javon Walker (to huge $$), veteran center John Wade, and role players WR Drew Carter and DT William Joseph. Overshadowing all of these, however, was the blockbuster trade for Pro Bowl cornerback DeAngelo Hall, a potentially amazing bookend to pair with home-grown stud Nnamdi Asomugha for years to come.
Add to this the resigning of breakthrough running back Justin Fargas, the return of a healthy RB Michael Bush, the re-signing to big money of DT Tommy Kelly and the #4 pick in the NFL draft, and you have a the makings of lively off-season. The national media rather predictably panned the Raiders’ moves, citing chaos inside the team’s Alameda HQ and claiming they overpaid mediocre players to come to the East Bay. They even trashed Hall as overrated.
Whatever. It’s not my money, and the Raiders have never been bothered by a salary cap that is likely to be phased out after next season anyway. Davis is clearly upping the ante for his besieged coaches, no doubt miserable about the recent dismal stretch of that began at kickoff of the 2003 Super Bowl. He’s saying, here are your damn thoroughbreds, now get me into the playoffs.
If it doesn’t work, we can at least look forward to another pyrotechnic offseason next Spring!
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MaddenRaider Slapper Says:
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Hey Len you’re welcome, within the first 10 seconds of this clip, you’ll see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2laN7_enwQQ
It’s amazing what a little research does for a person. If only the media tried it once in awhile.
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RaiderTay Says:
May 23rd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Thats hillarious. Nolan didnt even have on any S.F. colors, Gold or Pink…I mean Red.
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May 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 pm
And he would be in the right to let everyone know how good he is at selecting young talented coaches. Who has done it better?……Mr Davis knows he has a potential great young coach Jerry but for a minute that yung coach was feeling and smelling himself a little too strongly, in Grudenesque fashion.
It was important for him to understand the tremendous opportunity he was getting and start listening better in order to benefit from what was at his disposal. Now he has a chance to do great things with the talent he has, and be known as ne of the great young talents of his era.
Big Al is biulding him a very talented team while navigates the more important business at the NFL offices to save the league from itself. So don’t you think it’s time that you and your cohorts gave him just a tad bit more respect if he pulls this off. because he could’ve brought it all crashing down on Kiffin’s head for being so ungrateful and some would not have blamed him.
Kiffin has one of the truely great young talents at QB in NFL history(yet to be proven)IMO, very few young coaches have that to look forward to, it will save his career. Ask Bill Walsh and Belichik.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Wasteland well said but it has been said over and over again. Some of us are just sick and tired of bein g sick and tired of these shanangans from the media.
We know why they do it, but can’t they come up something different occasionally, based on fact but yet provocative and insightful.
Yeah I guess your right, look at who we’re dealing with. No chance I guess………..well one can always hope. WOW what was I thinking???
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:39 pm
If JaMarcus can become one of the league’s top-5(ish) QB’s, he and Kiffin might just enjoy a great, long ride together. There are fine-lines between bad teams, average teams, and great teams. Confidence will help obliterate those lines — for Kiff, JaMarcus, and eventually everybody on the team. It will be great to see a confident team again.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:47 pm
HayesDayes, it’s just around the corner my friend everyone who has some understanding should remember these times because they will be a distant memory but they will serve you well in understanding the process.
The usual suspects need not heed but those that will jump the bandwagon can become quite intoxicated when the winning starts.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
FIRE KIFFIN Says:
May 23rd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
KK - What I would like to see…is some of your legendary, world famous, Koolkell RAP.
someone else was asking KK to spit down some of his rap instead of spewing MR like quotes. Guess we know who has taken the KK name.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
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May 23rd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
i have a ?? does anything that kwame harris will win the job at LT i feel that he can happen it
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Dating myself, but I watched the Raiders build from a small-league, small-market team into a sports icon…spoiling generations of fans by giving them a winner almost every year.
Fans of this generation haven’t seen anything except one single, sub-par Super bowl effort. They don’t even know what it’s like to feel the team’s confidence exude from a TV screen. Better yet, in-person.
Back in the day…when the Raiders came to town, other teams didn’t want to face them — all false bravado aside. That is the respect this young team needs to earn, and then they need to bottle the feeling — it’s so tantalizingly within this team’s grasp.
Is it September yet?
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:38 pm
We’re five years removed from getting dismantled in the SB as a finesse team. The days of dominance are long long gone. We still have the softest offensive and defensive lines in the league. That #6th ranked rushing attack is a mirage. Our passs blocking is beyond pathetic. I shudder to think what our run defense will look like this year without even Sapp, who wasn’t great against the run but was our best linemen. Sorry guys but it’s going to be another long season. 6-10 even with the easy schedule is my prediction.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Blackholepriest Says: “Kiffin has one of the truely great young talents at QB in NFL history(yet to be proven)”
Priest there is no doubt the kid has some talent, but your assessment seems a little over the top. Based on last years performance what am I not seeing that tells me he is the next Montana?
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Johnnyrocko,..with all your doom and gloom, why not commit suicide?…you must be fun at parties.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Anything near .500 is success, and will keep kiff in his job. Might not do the same for RR.
More than .500? A great dream, but one that could happen in one year. Think all the way back to last year…a relative no-name in Cleveland took a 4-12 team to 10-wins, and almost to the playoffs.
The Raiders can do the same thing. Likely? No, but it absolutely could happen. And 10-wins in the AFC West this year will probably vie for the division title.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:51 pm
The west is ours,…SD will fade,..KC and Denver will fight for the cellar,…we will win the west,..I dont care about prior records.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:55 pm
# Scott Peterson Says:
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:51 pm
The west is ours,…SD will fade,..KC and Denver will fight for the cellar,…we will win the west,..I dont care about prior records
Come on man- SD is a BETTER team, I will take second place but be realistic.
May 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 pm
I’m kinda with Daze on this one. I think .500 is do-able. Anything more is gravy. To me the first game of the season is going to be huge. Expectations are going to be high, the Raiders HAVE to roll the Donks.
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Hey I wear a black dress: You go ahead and hope for 2nd place,..I dont roll like that…and why do you need to copy my post and attach it to yours?
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:27 pm
do you really expect kiffin to get in everybody’s business? like art shell did? telling the o-line what to do (which was opposite of what the Oline coach was telling them) it’ll just confuse them. his job is to come up with those plays and give speeches before and after practice(for the most part)
May 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 pm
IDIB my assessment has little to do with what I saw last year, he barely played. It’s my picking his game apart prior to his becoming a Raider. Last year confirmed some of that but wa just glimpses here and there. This year yu should start to see some of why I say what say. It may take 30 to 40 starts before it really materializes. But his skill set is better than anything I’ve ever seen……….period.
If his coach harnesses his wealth of talent and allows it to grow properly you may see a top 5 QB in NFL history by the time he’s finished. They are putting premium talent around him but they’re not close to finished. The backfield is set but the WR’s largey underdevelped and the defense has yet to be biult. when those are in place look out, our future is going bring about unprecedented success for the Silver & Black. We have never quite put it together like we have the chance to do now.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
With this schedule n the teams in r div we win 11games if JR is 3400YD 25TD 14 INT SEASON.
May 23rd, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Taht’s very optimistic for young QB starting his first season. He more than likely will have some 3int games and will have some 3td games 20 td’s 17 int’s is more realistic 3000, yards. His second season will be the unleashing of his immense talent. Kiffin will keep him under wraps so that he’s progressing to his liking.
But you will see some unbelievable throws and some drives where you think he’s unstoppable. that’s where the inconsistency will drive you nuts because he will do things no other QB has ever done.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:05 am
I’m glad Kiffin is still on board. God knows Dysfunctional Al can’t win without him.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Giving MistaBrown props for prior support on Stu and the scheme - just wanted everyone to know - there are three types of bloggers/comments here - Know Nothings, Know Somethings, and Knowalots. All of us are Raider fans, and this IS the most intelligent football forum in all of the NFL bar none, but if you don’t realize scheme is important is today’s NFL, then you are a knownothing - scheme and continuity are the most important things in the NFL (period emphasized). Every team has its up and downs in the salary cap era, and we’ve done well to rebuild a contender in five years, especially given the fact that we wasted 3 years on trying to reload with half a** coaches and players.
This year, at the Mac, we should expect nothing less than a playoff caliber team - SD has one year left (how sad that they didn’t even make it to a super bowl with all that talent), KC is rebuilding, and Denver is a year away from firing Shanahan and realizing it needs to rebuild, so we are prepped for a long run -
F’n Go Raiders!
May 24th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Well, looks like it was never substantiated that Gannon2Brown was MaddenRaider, but boy did we jump the gun to celebrate. How many times now have we celebrated fraud boy’s departure, only for him to return within hours? But hey, that’s the life of a Raider fan. Stay in denial.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:23 am
LOL. Even the posts by “system moderator” were removed. And, btw, it’s pretty obvious that it was RaiderDell who posted as a mod. Expect that idiot to be the one disappearing, soon. Fraudulently posting as a mod is a no no, too. We’ve got some real idiots in here.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:26 am
Oakglenn, stop talking junk about me when I’m not here. Be a man. Alright? We’re supposed to be boys.
But, I agree, we do suck.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:40 am
Johnny Rocko, post 116:
Johnny…not so. This is the year everything gets turned around. Almost all the pieces are together and that’s all we need….look for 11-5 minimum.
Our running attack, passing attack (missels and rockets in small spaces) and our multiple options with Darren & Bush, we’re going to do just fine. Don’t let the last five years lean you toward conservatism. Just look at whats in place and ENJOY the show.
SHOW started 9/8/08, against the donkeys. Can you think of any other team (even the dischargers & cooks) that you would want to destroy more than them and Shanarat. It’s going to be great. We win 34-17.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:50 am
Blackholepriest post 125:
Well said…nothing further to add.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Blackholepriest..post 127:
You’re leaving me speechless…nothing further to add.
EX-CEL-LENT-TE!!! GO RAIDERS. 11-5 minimum, 13-3 possible.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Well, it looks like everyone is calling it a nite. Not much happening until June and the next mini-camp.
Besides Jordan, I wonder who else is going to get cut?
Maybe Jake Grove?
Good nite too all the Raiders fans, also good morning as it’s now Saturday am. Have a super Memorial weekend.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:04 am
hey i am here
May 24th, 2008 at 1:05 am
who is still there
May 24th, 2008 at 1:06 am
me
May 24th, 2008 at 1:07 am
Jorden i know there should be more they just jorden i also think Walker too
May 24th, 2008 at 1:08 am
June 1st should be an important day for Jordan.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:08 am
hey k-rock wassup
May 24th, 2008 at 1:09 am
You think Walker should be cut?
May 24th, 2008 at 1:09 am
i think we also have to many Tight ends you know
May 24th, 2008 at 1:09 am
Not much…
not far from sleep.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:10 am
yea i believe there will be enough talent there in that group
May 24th, 2008 at 1:10 am
An interesting fact is that these “stories” always come out just when we get some momentum flowing and need to get to work.
Last time it was at the Senior Bowl and through the Combine. Now we’re in camp and another creep rears his ugly head with more junk on a done story.
The fact of the matter is that Davis made some demands and put Kiffin in his place (right or wrong). Then Al and Kiffin got to WORK and had probably the most active off-season of any team in the NFL, attempting to categorically address every need we had in some way.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:11 am
so besides jorden who do u think should be cut
May 24th, 2008 at 1:13 am
what are you talkin about
May 24th, 2008 at 1:17 am
where is everyone
May 24th, 2008 at 1:42 am
Jedi, I’m going to try to get this across to you one more time. There is no football without a scheme, which means schemes are obviously very important. Get it? very important that means you can’t play without them. But schemes don’t make players, players make schemes successful. If you don’t understand that then I can’t help you. What’s more important the WCO or the QB that runs the WCO? What’s more important the Tampa2 or the players playing the Tampa2? Do I need to make this any simpler?
A retard should be able to answer that. Have I dummied this down enough for you?………now move on because this is getting very ignorant.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:48 am
And petty I should’ve said.
“If you don’t think schemes are important in todays NFL”, as if they weren’t important in yesterday’s NFL. Any 5 year old would know you can’t play football without a scheme.
Please from this point on leave me out your references. OK pumpkin.
May 24th, 2008 at 1:53 am
Let’s see….
1)no football without a scheme…
2)Schemes important
3)Schemes don’t make players
4) Players make schemes successful
Your attempt to dummy it down is pretty convoluted and unintelligible.
I’ll take a guess and postulate that you mean…
“as long as we have the best players in the league with SPEED, then we’ll win no matter what antiquated “scheme” we run?”
Don’t be such a prick…….
May 24th, 2008 at 1:53 am
The upside of Jamarcus Russell has not yet been displayed. At no point last season, or this off season, has the media or public seen a trademark Russell BOMB. Sure, there was the 40yds in the air LASER to Porter, but we have yet to witness a towering skyscraper-high sideline pass. But besides the deep ball, Jamarcus can rifle 20-40 strikes splitting defenders like nobody’s business. There have even been reports of receivers in minicamp not being able to handle the heat. Don’t worry Nation, Jamarcus is not the 2nd coming of ANYBODY. He’s a unique talent and he will leave his mark on the NFL.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:01 am
I would venture to say that a scheme can be made successful by plugging the correct players in.
If you don’t have the right players with the appropriate attributes to carry out the scheme then the scheme is useless.
Last year we had no playmakers on offense, and Kiffin was forced to play it safe almost all the time. His scheme was limited because of the lack of people who could threaten the defense.
As a result he was forced to go for it on 4th down, go for long FG’s, rarely streched the defense etc. The focus of the offense was to NOT turn the ball over and not get sacked.
So in essence, last year we didn’t have the players OR a complete and well functioning scheme. Let’s hope that the new players meet the demands of the scheme we’re on the way to implementing so the scheme can reach it’s true fruition.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:10 am
What about the zone-blocking scheme?? That seemed to work pretty well. I think COACHING is just as important as Scheme or Personell. Tom Cable is awesome. Rob Ryan SUCKS.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:12 am
Listen all, How many times do you remember a brand new group of players along with a brand new coach, comming in and doing miracles. I dont remember any. Im not comparing the niners to the raiders with this im giving an example of what it takes to get rolling, what was Bill Walshs w/l record his first year, 2nd yr. How long did it take before he got things going. Like i said im not comparing im stating the obvious. It is going to take a couple yrs before anyone should expect things to turn around. Since Chucky there really hasnt been a fresh coach with fresh ideas that you would really care to give a few yrs to set things up. Those coaches were doomed from the start. This kid Lane is someone who is worth the investment of a few yrs to fully implement a system that could carry over for yrs to come as in a Madden tenure. He has the new tools in his tool box thanks to AD. A QB that will last a good long career for both himself and Lane. The raiders have a tradition of doing what they gotta do to win. And if that dont work throw it long baby. All the pieces are in place my friends so kick back grab a cold one dont let any whinner fans in your house on sunday and enjoy the next ten yrs. Its going to be fun.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:28 am
Raider Raul…yeah the zone-blocking scheme was the only thing that worked out for us last year.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:29 am
Was that meant for you?? or did I hurt your feelings because I insulted your girl friend?
I don’t care what particular scheme you want to run, TALENT will make it go not necessarily SPEED chump. Speed helps, Talent is what wins games and makes schemes successful.
So you obviously didn’t get it, but I forgive you since you obviously suffer from the same disease.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:38 am
Old School, I wonder why didn’t Bill Walsh’s WCO work wnoders from the outset, It was a great scheme s these guy’s want to believe but it sucked until he got some talent t run it and breath life into.
But excuse me for being logical that obviously has no place here.
And Bill Walsh was as close to an innovator as they come but until he got the talent he couldn’t win. I wonder what the Patriot offense would look like without Tom Brady?
May 24th, 2008 at 2:39 am
I responded to your post, not because of any homo-erotic relationship, as you so pedestrianly try to infer, but I responded because I found your it offensive. You’re an abusive power hungry cretin who believes that he knows it all.
If you truly believed in your own intelligence you would have no need to throw around terms like, “retarded, stupid etc”.
If you can’t make your arguments logically, in a coherent form of English so people can understand, maybe that makes you “stupid”.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:40 am
Maybe things would be different if you hunkered down and got yourselv a high school proficiency degree
May 24th, 2008 at 2:49 am
Maybe this forum doesn’t require that I do that or even care for that matter. How ’bout that pumpkin.
And sense they’re so unintelligent maybe you should just skip them, does that work for you
Mr Grammar and BTW do you also do spell check? because you could use the help
May 24th, 2008 at 2:49 am
Nice…CF mixin it up with BHP!!
Look, an ideal system would have a great scheme run by great coaches that fit talented personell. The difficulty is getting all 3 ingredients to work together. Last year, we brought in some good coaches. We even upgraded our WR coach to Lofton. What’s missing on defense is a Good coach running a good scheme, cuz God knows we have talent on D. This is make it or break it year for Rob Ryan. Our offense is gonna be AWESOME.
May 24th, 2008 at 2:56 am
EgoCreep…I master 3 languages better than you so spare me for the spell check.
If talent is what counts and what makes a scheme successful then is it also your opinion that Al has been a failure as “GM”?
May 24th, 2008 at 2:59 am
Hey Copenhagen!! buddy, what power would derive from this forum by the way because I’m suddenly interested.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:00 am
hop i seng gammel sur kælling efter du gokker din usle pik
May 24th, 2008 at 3:01 am
Al has good years, and Al has bad years (as GM). This offseason, Al has really stepped it up and is holding nothing back. If we are 8-8 or better, Nancy Gay, ESPN, Gary Peterson, Kawakami, and ALL the Haters better own up and kiss Big Al’s you-know-what!!!
May 24th, 2008 at 3:02 am
Blackie…if you go around bashing people and abusing them verbally, calling them stupid or making off color comments questioning their sexuality then it reeks of somebody on a power trip.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:03 am
Speak english!! how rude, name calling in whatever langauge is still name calling, come correct or bow out.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:05 am
Adios, see I can do that to. Hey!! Copenhagen say goodbye to sweetie for me.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:07 am
Muhahahhaa
good one =)
May 24th, 2008 at 3:10 am
Does that go for everyone in here because when someone insults me, then get ready because I probably will respond. But obviously you ignored his insults to me and jumped all over mine but hey! he’s your baby.
So I’ll leave you two to confer since that’s where your heart is.
!
Adios again I’ve gotta get some sleep. Whitie!!
May 24th, 2008 at 3:10 am
you know we all have our opinions on what will make for a winning season. You are all right in what you say. And a good old narly debate is good for the soul. But just remember this were all on the same side..
In order for BWs system to work it took time to impliment that system into the team as much as it took the team to get into the system. The talent showed up allright but that system was going to florish regardless.. You could plug any “able body” quarterback into New England and have succsess.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:10 am
BHP…
all he said was go to bed… more or less =)
May 24th, 2008 at 3:11 am
LMN jeg blev træt af, at høre på hans pis og hans bedrevidende attitude. Du må undskyld mit sprog.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:17 am
LMN I really don’t need anyone’s help explaning anything I couldn’t care less what he said because I can’t read it and he knows that, so he can jump for all I care, And stay out of my discussion when they don’t concern him. Just to protect his comrad. OK!
May 24th, 2008 at 3:19 am
Hey bhp lets find this dude and kick his ass all the way back to whereever
May 24th, 2008 at 3:20 am
BHP…
Sorry mate… I don’t know why you are pissed, I just translated the post you were b1tching about, but Okay I’ll stay out of your discussion
May 24th, 2008 at 3:20 am
Whatever I’m consistent at it’s not for you to interfere so take your sorry ass down to the beach and check out the hair, because you don’t run me or what goes on in here.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:24 am
Adios fellas!!
May 24th, 2008 at 3:29 am
Old School
Hahaha, so he isn’t a raider fan because of the way he talks? who decides who is a raider fan or who isn’t?
just because he he comes with an intelligent tone, and uses logic, then he isn’t a raider fan???
well thats exactly what most raider haters say about us, that we doesn’t use logic or that we are
intelligent… but CP clearly is a fan and intelligent, I speak 3 language and understand 2 more and I’ve been a fan of the raiders from the first second I saw that weird looking ball…
but just come around and kick his ass, I bet you need to save money for a year to get here =)
lastly, real men, doesn’t need to threat anybody… those who do, well, they are just as pathetic as men hitting women.. A sign that they don’t master the skills of communication, their frustration for not being able to say what the mean and feel, results in threats and violence…
May 24th, 2008 at 3:32 am
Glad to know I’m not the only gay, here.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:34 am
Show me, old school. Show me, baby.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:34 am
All up in the kool aid and don’t know the flavor. Shoot.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:36 am
CopenhagenFan Says:
May 24th, 2008 at 3:10 am
“look up “latent homosexuality” on the Net. Then you’ll realize that people that who use such insults are most likely to have undercover gay tendencies.”
…..
Duh! See: “Oakglenn”.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:38 am
Hahahah… we all for equality, aren’t we?
I just read, that our green and red men, light signals that show you that you can walk over the street (idon’t know what its called but you know what i’,m talking about) they will now be changed so 50% will be tiny red and green WOMEN =) hahaha I would probably have used the money on something else, but Okay =)
May 24th, 2008 at 3:38 am
This is the real RaiderDell. MaddenRaider, I’m contacting the FBI about you fraudulently using my name. I was a junior G man when I was a kid and still have my coloring book with my pledge to say no to drugs…signed. I know people, and now you’re in trouble.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:40 am
Come and get me, sweetie. That goes for you and Oakie Poke. And, what ever happened to the moderator putting out my ip address? Oh, his post got deleted. What a rough day it’s been for Oakglenn.
FRAUD BOY LIVES!
May 24th, 2008 at 3:41 am
Oakglenn is just like Al Davis; Out of touch, delusional, and pretty much a retard.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:57 am
Why the dig at Davis at the end? Why doesn’t anyone bring up the fact that coaches at the senior bowl wore shirts with sponsors logos on them, especially the two head coaches? I just hope these writers keep bashing the Raiders after they start winning just as much as they love to bash them when they are loosing.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:00 am
I’m gonna do as CP, go to the park check out the topless chicks, God I love this time a year
May 24th, 2008 at 4:07 am
Here is a link to settle this shirt thing once and for all. Notice in the youtube video above Nolan and kiffin were wearing identical white Armour shirts because they were one of the sponsors of the Senior Bowl.
http://www.underarmour.com/
May 24th, 2008 at 5:40 am
Another excellent article Jerry, you are concise and provide the best opinions of what appears reasonable - thanks!
Your comment about awaiting the “cigarette and the blindfold” had me rolling.
Also, when you said “He is continuing to run the offense he wants, a zone-blocking running game combined rollouts and safe passes designed to build passing percentage, before layering in the deep strikes Davis loves.” This is exactly what I like to hear, and Mr. Davis doesn’t just love the deep strike, all of Raider Nation loves the deep strike!
Carter/Walker down the sideline w/McFadden and Fargas as split backs - who do you cover? Best of luck JaMarcus and let’s stop the run (wrap ‘em up early)!
Go Raiders!
btw - Still waiting to punch your ticket at as Raiders “fan” Jerry…come on in, the water is fine in Raider Nation.
May 24th, 2008 at 5:55 am
Thank you Jerry for bringing some clarity to the situation. You are also correct about winning solving alot of problems.
About the only time I did not see that happen was with Marty down in SD.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:09 am
Please keep in mind that The Autumn Wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you ’round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:46 am
Jerry, great article. Very logicial, i think it speaks the truth. This year will be about winning. Period.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Next blog will be about how the team looked I hope, especially Russell and McFadden.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:50 am
I remember it well that day on September 9, 1962 Frank Youell Field when the Raiders lost that day to the NY Titans 28 to 17. I had just moved from a small town in Colorado to the Bay Area. It was the first professional game for me. I was immediately taken in by the Raiders. Since then through the blinding shine of their performance to their stumbling and bumbling of recent years I have remained an undaunted fan. Over the course of my travels, I have lived in Cleavland, Houston, and now NYC. I have watched from stadium to stadium and no matter who is out there, not one team stacks up to the Raiders in my blood. But when I see an article that was recently written about Kiffin, it makes my blood boil and I have to put my comments out there particularly to this generation of sports reporters that can’t seem to fill their satiety receptors for browbeating the Raiders. My response to the Peterson Article that portends to tell the future of Lane Kiffin in the most negative light is this. If Mr. Peterson had any analytical depth he would have shone that light on the weak link in Kiffin’s system which Kiffin tried to correct last season, which Al Davis blocked…Rob Ryan.
That is where the Peterson Light should have been aimed, Rob Ryan. What I see and what was misinterpreted by Mr. Peterson is a coach that is organizing a team to win. How to motivate a Defensive Coach to coach rather than win a popularity contest with his players. Do you think Parcels is popular? He is loathed. But where he goes he leaves in his wake, success. Rob Ryan is too easy. Al Davis is too stubborn but he knows football, his flaw, he has his favorites. But if he were to give Lane Kiffin his head, he would win a Superbowl in three to four years with this recently acquired talent. Let Kiffin coach!
May 24th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Kiffin is coaching thats the whole point. Even in the blog above Jerry still takes a jab at the shirt myth at the senior bowl saying Kiffin was trying to make a statement when Armour asked the two head coaches to wear their shirts and both did. In a nutt shell Kiffin shopped around last year for other jobs, probably at the advice of Gruden whom he had been seeing during the summers at USC to discuss football, which is safe to assume pissed off Davis. Kiffin patches up the team and goes 4-12 and wants to fire Ryan. Davis objects and Kiffin throws a fit and Davis tells him if he does not like it, quit. If Davis truly wanted him gone Lofton would already be the head coach. Obviously they have patched things up because Kiffin is still here.
May 24th, 2008 at 8:06 am
I would like Jerry to tell us how Bush is on the field, and which team he practices with
May 24th, 2008 at 8:36 am
BHP - I’m three steps in front of you on this argument - you’re stating the obvious, yes, everyone has a playbook so everyone has a scheme, it’s just that some are longer than 1 page (look back at comments made last year by QB’s that faced us, one actually said he got “bored watching film because they do they (raiders d) do the same thing almost every play - but put the entire indianapolis colts in Shell/Walsh’s scheme and watch the same thing happen that happened to Walter. You need good players obviously, but scheme allows you to reduce the number of good players you need a certain positions (using you example, the cornerbacks in a Tampa 2 don’t have to be good cover guys, so they are easily replaceable). You also need to have the right players at the right positions, and when you factor in salary cap issues, you can’t have studs at every position, which is what a man D forces you to have beause it requires each man dominate the man in front of them. This is fundamentally flawed in modern D - go check out Stu Schwag’s comment about playing cover 0 and what a joke it was - I believe he called it a gimmick must teams will use rarely on blitzes, not as a base - not that most of us who know something about football and scheme didn’t already know that and haven’t been complaining about it for 3 years.
It’s great to be able to play good man D - they do it in Philly a lot but they also blitz the hell out of the other team - I would love to run that style of D rather than depend on our line to apply pressure on every play, but until Rob falls on his face this year running his lame man d with no blitzing, I’ll be pointing this out every week when the season starts.
May 24th, 2008 at 8:52 am
From Stu - say what you want about him, but this is a fact:
”I would make a bunch of tackles, but the highlight on (ESPN) SportsCenter would be the one that I missed because that was the one that went for a touchdown. The Raiders are the only team in the NFL that uses the cover-0 defense, which puts eight men in the box and man coverage on the receivers.
Some teams will use the cover-0 as a gimmick defense on rare occasions, maybe to blitz. But nobody uses it as their standard defense like the Raiders do.”
May 24th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Did any one feel the wind shift? Media boy don’t feel bad, even the t.v. and radio guys are doing it. Shifting to neutral that is. Yea, before the season started it was AL is throwing money a round. Al is grabbing for a last hurrah, and the all time lamest, the game has passed Al by. Now that it is apparent to even the most naive of citizens, in the last two years, Al Davis and Lane Kiffin have put together a juggernaut! I love it, yesterday on Sirius, while they were talking about Ryan’s new $77 million dollar contract; they actually slipped and said this makes the contract with Russell seem good! Yea and all of a sudden all the other money he was throwing around just seems like he was first to the fire sale. Don’t forget to add that unless their is an agreement their will be NO FREE AGENTS available after 09. Holy Homer Simpson, you mean Al Davis can predict the future! Again Al Davis is running circles around the rest of the league and is so far ahead of the media, it’s pathetic. I am sorry to say, that the media is back pedaling so fast, that by the time the season starts, the Raiders are going to be favorites on opening day against Denver and after blowing them out, the odds makers will swing the points where it’s going to be hard to make a buck. Really I expect a 4-1 start and don’t think a 5-0 start is impossible. After aggressively addressing all of the Raiders needs and pulling talent like Russell, McFadden, Fargus, Bush, Walker, etc, etc…out of his hat, and having the right coach at the right time, it’s going to be a 12-4 season or better. Given all the variables and the energy we are going to bring to the game, it would be poetic justice if we actually knocked New England out of the playoffs with our 13th win! So media boy, bring it, because you all ready flipped, you might as well flop!
May 24th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Touche Steve,,..but dont bother with Jerry, he rarely even attends the games hes reporting on.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Just goes to show you can’t always tell what’s going on with a person’s body English. What you say sounds reasonable, and I hope like hell it is, because any more upheavals in the Raiders organization will blow this whole thing up. Most people think Al gave Kiffin a mulligan for the first season. Now let’s all pray that there’s enough talent and desire on board for things to work out. 8-8 would be a minimum requirement for Al, I think. The one thing the Raiders need most of all is continuity. And that is what performance would give them this coming season.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:42 am
The constant change of coaches the past few years has proved to be part of the problem. I have yet to feel Kiffen myself, but although the record did not look good the raiders did improve. I hope Al Davis will keep him in place long enough to build a team chemistry. He has almost all of the right players. Al just has to be patient.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Lakers f-ing RULE!
May 24th, 2008 at 9:53 am
Rest assured Lofton will make a good head coach if Kiffin decides to take a hike.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:59 am
And Richard the Raiders have traditionally been above average to Champions when there seems to be chaos in the clubhouse. They used to run remote control cars into Maddens office with firecrackers going off on them if you want to call something chaos.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Lots of coaches, one owner and lots of losses. And the problem is the coach? Please……. Al is a lot closer to being with God than being a God.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:04 am
Lots more wins than losses.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Eyepatch…
no he will not, he isn’t HC material! perhaps in Al’s head and in some fans, but if we want to win, then Lofton would be a bad hire as HC… But Lofton is a helluva assistant…
May 24th, 2008 at 10:07 am
What really mystifies me is that if we have 8 guys in the box, then why we can’t stop the run or preasure the QB.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:09 am
The record speaks for itself 4-12 with Kiffin calling the shots with the players he wanted. The one rumor I have read is the defense is changing which points to Kiffin gaining more authority over the defenses that will be utilized.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Lofton is going to be a head coach somewhere.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:11 am
The thing about Lofton is that he is smart and the players respect him because of his accomplishments on the field. Don’t under estimate him.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Eye just like Art Shell?
May 24th, 2008 at 10:14 am
I think you will see a difference this year in the d-line because we will have guys that can move and produce effective stunts, something similar to the o-line of Cable, not just brute force guys like in years past.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Art was stupid you know that from his first go around if you have been a fan that long.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Eye> Why didn’t Al figure that out then? ha ha
May 24th, 2008 at 10:17 am
The linebackers have problems shedding blocks too.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Maybe because he is in a walker and has maybe 20-40 vision? That monumental mistake is one only Al can answer. But he has corrected it with Kiffin, just prey for blowouts so we don’t have to play the refs too.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Dakota,
Your in 5 games prediction may be closer than mine of in 7 games.
Thank you Champion Air for your contribution. lol
May 24th, 2008 at 10:36 am
It seems many fans missed how much it takes to rebuild a team. When Kiffin came in last year, he had limited time to weed out players and there was limited pool of talent to chase after and there was budget limitations specific to last year. He got a few people he wanted in the draft and had to work with the rest. He and Davis and Ryan and the players were also all learning to work together. This is like managing a business when a new boss comes in. It takes time for people to learn each other’s expectations and decide whether to live up to them or leave. The first year is always transitional.
Looking back, the Raiders could have been easily 6-10 or even 8-8. They were ahead so many times only to lose in the second half with a suddenly less-aggessive defense. It was not even the defensive scheme in some cases, it seemed a few defensive players were either taking plays off, or the opponents were adjusting without our defense adapting. This has been a typical Raiders problem for so many years, it went back even before Gruden got here. COnstant changes in coaching staff did not help and will not help to correct this situation.
For Davis to fire Kiffin after the improvement last year, it would have proven that Davis had lost touch with the game. Thankfully, Davis saw through the losses and proceeded to rebuild the team this year. The rest, we can now say, is finally up to the coaches.
I was positive last year but did not think the Raiders could win many games because they lacked the players and the stability. Kiffin also said many times that he left defensive decisions to the defensive coaches. Last year was a transition year. This year is the real “Kiffin” team year. Now Kiffin can teach his system to the offensive teams. Hopefully, Kiffin now also has more say in the defensive scheme and approach after a year spent watching the defense played away leads in so many games. With the departure of Schweigert and arrival of WIlson, it will hopefully mirror the arrival of Rod Woodson. THe corner change hopefully mirrors arrival of Eric Allen.
This year is the first year we get to see the true Kiffin system at play. Davis can then judge if Kiffin is up to the task. This year, I am confident we can hit at least 8-8. If that happens and Kiffin stays, we can hit 10-6 or better next year and reach play-off’s soon after. Then I hope Davis keeps Kiffin for as long as the team continues to win. Even Shanahan took years to build a Super Bowl team, it is not an overnight miracle. If we hit 8-8 and Kiffin is fired, then I am done watching the Raiders. We will see…
May 24th, 2008 at 10:46 am
eyepatch…
Kiffin had a 4-12 season with a team totally without self esteem… so of course lets fire the guy.. lets hire Lofton, when he reaps on what Kiffin has made and gets a 6-10 season, lofton will be a genius, but 6-10 isn’t good enough then lets fire Lofton, lets hire Mora Jr - and fire him after one season too and on and on…
Let the Coach get his time and space, at least 3 years to get us out of the abyss or quagmire….
I rather have calahan or turner for a 3 year period than this merry-go-round of coaches… we need structure and stability so we can find an identity again.
Sorry to disappoint you, but Kiffin is the answer…
May 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am
ANother point on what many claim to be Kiffin’s “ungratefulness”.
I have read nowhere that Kiffin was “ungrateful”. What I saw was a young coach who wanted an opportunity to coach in the league, is confident of what he can do, believes in his approach, and is pushing and shoving his organization to get moving. Any leader worth his or her salt would love to have a young feisty leader as a partner.
Davis has not proven himself to be adapt at selecting players and coaches all the time. He does make mistakes. One example is of Tim Brown and that no-name Olympic sprinter wannabe “receiver” who stayed on the roster for YEARS! Year in and year out, even when Brown was the only viable offensive player, he did nothing to build the team and that no-name sprinter stayed on the roster. It was sad and hilarious when I watched him sprinted down the sideline time and again with only one corner chasing him because teams knew he could not catch and no QB could get the ball to him.
My guess is Kiffin went to Davis and gave a no non-sense assessment of “talent”. Davis, having been in charge so long, probably did not like someone telling him his mistakes. Kiffin, in his youthfulness, probably did not use carefully chosen words. Any good leader though, would listen to criticism and hear the facts and act accordingly. To Davis’ credit, he acted accordingly.
TO accuse Kiffin of being “ungrateful” is wrong for we have no facts to support that just no facts to support Davis wanting to fire Kiffin after last season. Fairness and logic cuts both ways. We should not let blind loyalty to Davis blind us between right and wrong. In the end, it is our hard-earned cash that pays for the ticket to see an entertainment product. The Raiders need to perform up to our expectations else I will keep my cash to myself.
Let Kiffin do his thing this year and watch it all with fairness. Then we can decide if Kiffin is a competent coach.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Dakota - You toothless, dirty, gun loving hick, How’s it going?
Nice game last night. Oh, thats right, you missed it. You went to the movies with the wifey. How was Ironman? Did she let you get some Skittles?
Typical FAKER FAN.
Okay Faker fan, here’s the wager:
LOSER LEAVES TOWN MATCH
After My Celtics beat your Fakers in the finals you agree to never post your pointless drivel in here EVER, EVER again.
If by some miricle,and the Fakers somehow win the finals, I’ll agree to do the same.
I’m calling you out, Faker fan.
Are you a man or a mouse?
Ask your wife, I mean,…what do you say?
GO RAIDERS.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:57 am
kenny king wow good blog very touching look i am with you king and i am sick of people talkin crap about kiffin i believe he can lead this team to playoffs and better
May 24th, 2008 at 10:58 am
La Milicia is right.
In any organization of professionals, even in the services, motivating your team is paramount. If leadership keeps changing, tactics keep changing, mission goal keep changing, soon the team will stop putting their hearts into it because they know things keep changing.
If we keep changing coaches, the players that come in will naturally gravitate to short-timer mode. Professionals have to look out for themselves too. Why play so hard when the BOSS fires the coach every year and the scheme and wording changes every year? Even the most dedicated professionals will find it difficult to perform after two years. Tim Brown was the exception. He was loyal to the core and performed year after year. Players like him are rare. If we could get two, three or four on both sides of the ball, we will have leaders for years.
It takes time to build chemistry, weed out poor performers and change attitude. Players must see that the organization wants stability and value constant improvements. If not, they will work to prepare for signing with another team and not focused on playing for the Raiders long term. This is true in all businesses and true in the NFL.
I say give Kiffin his time and space, as La Milicia put it, and let him try.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:01 am
so if anybody wants to talk raiders and has a yahoo messager my name is Spawn211 and lets talk raiders only
May 24th, 2008 at 11:02 am
ohh another thing…
To other sports addicts like me..
If you get the opportunity to watch Formula 1 Monacos’ Gran Prix… you should watch it.. Motorsport right in streets of a city…
May 24th, 2008 at 11:02 am
kenny king did u play pro ball
May 24th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Jerry,
Your best article of the year so far. Well laid out, with actual facts, vs. the Kawakami, Gay, Peterson 100% speculation articles. Let’s put the Kiffin coaching issue to rest and focus on the team.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Kenny King…
I agree with everything you’ve said…
for the first time in over five years, i can get up in the morning and be honestly optimistic… I didn’t like the walker deal, but I wanted tall receivers to Jammy so he has some easy targets. we got the exact guy I wanted for the D, in Wilson, got Hall as a bonus, the O has 3 potential probowl studs in Jammy, Bush and McFadden. Next draft the D-line will get even better, I say Kiffin will get the Coach of the year award…
/LMN
May 24th, 2008 at 11:09 am
The boy blunder has it coming. He has been reduced to an over paid hype man.If he had any integrity at all, he would simply step down.
He’s NOT WANTED.
Just Win Baby.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:11 am
“Fire Kiffin” is an idiot. After we complete a winning season this year and make the playoffs next under the tutiledge of one Lane Kiffin, everyone else will know that as well.
Raider for life.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:14 am
about the formula one thing, the race starts here at 1400 so I think its a bit early in your part of the world, it will be around 0500 or so…
well if some sports channel shows the race later sunday you should watch it.. greatest motor race in the world…
May 24th, 2008 at 11:15 am
you know whats funny i know Lane Kiffin is doing his best with a team that he adopted from a coach that didnt give and 2 sinces and a bunch a guys that didnt know how to win .. its kinda like taken a team like the bad news bears
May 24th, 2008 at 11:22 am
spawn we were worth than them… =)
May 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Lane Kiffin doesn’t need to be grateful of anything. He has friends all over the league. He knows Al Davis is a crook. Al offered the money, Lane took it, end of story. Lane figured he would do whatever he could for a couple of years, and basically go at it Gruden/Shannahan style, just try to build his own regime under Al Davis (according to author Mark Ribowsky, John Madden did the same). If what the press has been reporting on Kiffin/Davis is true, then it looks to me like Davis was determined this time around to not allow another “Chucky” uprising under his nose. He’s trying to keep Kiffin in check, which is fine by Kiffin, he’ll just collect his check and walk after this season.
If all the reports are b.s. and Al is really letting Kiffin call most of the shots, then hey, cool. Kiffin might be around for a few years. But make no mistake, he’s going into this with the philosophy of Gruden and Shannahan. He will factor Al Davis’s expertise into absolutely ZERO football related decisions he makes as head coach.
Oh, he’ll shine Al on, and tell the press how he had goose bumps in his first interview with the elderly one, and of course the kool aid drinkers will postulate those quotes as solid evidence that Kiffin is an Al Davis guy through and through.
But at the end of the day, as far as Kiffin is concerned, the cheerleaders know more about the modern day NFL than Al Davis, and Kiffin will run the team under that mindset until Al runs him our. So will any coach worth their weight. Only the puppets will do it Al’s way.
PS.
What happened to “system moderator”? You know, the guy who was going to prove that I’m MaddenRaider? His posts were deleted. I’ve never heard of a system moderator deleting their own posts.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am
whoops correction…
…I believe we were worse than them…
May 24th, 2008 at 11:30 am
but they both are looking for that leader
May 24th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Correction, I meant to say, “Al Davis’s SUPPOSED expertise”, as opposed to, “Al Davis’s expertise”.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:37 am
I agree with Gannon2Brown. Couldn’t have said it better, myself.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Gary Peterson is just trying to stir the pot. creating something out of nothing. btw the raider logo was on his sleaves. check out the picture in pererson article.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:49 am
i like that name THE THREE HEAD MONSTERS FARGAS BUSH DMC
May 24th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Spawn…
do you know about Cerberus? =)
May 24th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
WHATS aghashf
May 24th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
yea thats a good way of saying it LA
May 24th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
STFU, MR. Get a life son.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Kiffin’s getting his chance, its upto him now.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
This year should be much improved with a QB in place and a system in place. If Dmac is half as good as they say he is the offense should move the ball better with more weapons and a safety that tackles. Plus the division is not that good anymore .
May 24th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
We’ll have a fine season this year. Kiffin will be gone afterward no matter what. Al will not give him a raise and more control, which is all Kiffin will accept. Then Al will do the song and dance about how Kiffin “wanted to leave, anyway”. The kool aid drinkers will fall in line and shill the mantra in comments sections like these. Norv Lofton…excuse me, James Lofton will be our next coach; And you can expect the same results we had with the previous “norv”.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Eyepatch, Kiffin is doing what he wants no matter what “chance” Al gives him. He came here to coach the team his way, and he’s going to coach the team his way until Al runs him out the door. It’s not a matter of who’s to blame if we’re bad; Kiffin or Davis. Hard core fans will obviously blame Kiffin. The Raiders, on the other hand, will continue to lose and lose and lose. The blame game won’t change that.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
3 headed monsters are going to run down d-fences
May 24th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
does anyone know if online has footage of last years games i just want to watch KC and raiders game
May 24th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Anyone watching the huge storm on Fox xews?
7 tornados have touched down already today!
Wild stuff…
May 24th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
fox news…
May 24th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
hello…hello…hello…
is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me…
is there anyone at home?
May 24th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
the tornate got me
May 24th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I bet Javons mama is ashamed of him.
Its one thing to get a huge contract that you have not earned. Its another to show up out of shape and possibly have a lackluster attitude after trying to come back from injuries and saying you want to prove to everyone that Denver did you wrong and you really are a premier WR.
Some peoples children are just shameless. Prove me wrong Javon and I will apoligize but so far it appears you are a has been who probaly deserves to be classified as a never was, to begin with.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I’m optimistic that our run defense will be significantly improved.
Good to hear that Ed Hartwell will be evaluated for the middle. Can’t wait for preseason to see if he still has that tough run-stuffing presence. Morrison can better use his quickness outside where shedding linemen will be less of an issue.
With Asomugha & Hall, it looks like Wilson will spend a fair amount of time up in the box. In terms of run defense, Wilson will be an upgrade over Huff at SS.
The big questions are whether Sands will show up to play and whether Warren will stay consistent. I’m a lttle nervous that they’re talking about Kelly’s being ready for the start of training camp — hope there’s no slippage in that schedule.
May 24th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
i think javon should be cut save that money for DMC
May 24th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Walker probably has too much guaranteed money: one report says $11M for his first year.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Two months to training camp. Here’s hoping everyone on the roster comes ready to play.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
The workers control the means of production.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
– but I think that coaching has something to do with it, too.
May 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
the beatings will continue until morale inproves…
May 24th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
What’s up nation?
I was gonna watch the Eastern Conf finals but then I thought, why?? Man, those Lakers are pretty damn good I must admit.
Anything new in Raiderland??
May 24th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
yes are going to the playoffs
May 24th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Cool. I was REALLY hoping that was part of the playbook!
May 24th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
well what do u think
May 24th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Well, anything is possible.
I believe we are improved in the secondary, the QB, RB and WR positions. I guess we’re gonna try to improve the trenches by getting former first rounders that have underperformed with other teams. Not my favorite recipe for winning, but that’s where we are.
Last year was great being able to run the ball, much better than my expectations. Of course we suffered through another year of horrible run stuffing and tackling. That, as many have commented in here the past few months is the rub. Then there’s Jamarcus….
But hey, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
May 24th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
wassup Jim plumpket
May 24th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
wassup he a first rounder on another team and sucked and came to the raiders and did well
May 24th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
******************************************************************************************************************** IMPORTANT NOTICE****IMPORTANT NOTICE************
In my eyes the following suggestion is very important and ever since the draft of Darren MaFadden I’ve been doing (IT). As you know over your years of following the Raiders and the NFL that we have run across many
“jumpers.”
“JUMPER” = An “A-HOLE” who is a Cowboys fans for a few years, them a Steelers fan while their on top and lately, Patriot fans. They also look you dead in your eye balls and deny that they were “ever” anything else than who they are currently cheering for.
I’ve been going around and making these guys sign my list: Their Team____________Their Name______________ and then their signature:_____________ & Date_______
WHY**********WHY**********WHY***********WHY*********
Because these same “A-Holes” are going to be jumping on our band-wagon. They’re going to be wearing Raiders gear and claiming that they have been Raiders fans all
along. You’ll be seeing a lot of this next year and the year after, though some later on at the end of the year when they see our Raiders our playoff bound.
Then you’ll be able to stick it to them big time. You’ll be able to expose them for the rats and “jumpers” that they are.
Remember, I reminder you…so go do it and do it now.
May 24th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Well, Jim was the #1 overall pick that year. He also went to a horrible team that had a lousy offensive line and got killed.
However, I was referring to the O and especially the D lineman. We’re banking on fixing the worst part of our team by bringing in guys that couldn’t cut it on other teams. I understand jumping on Hall but there was also some very good DT’s out there that we could have used to shore up our biggest deficiency.
Guess we’ll see…
May 24th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
That’s funny Riverside!
May 24th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
whats up nation, hope all is good.
yeah those lakers are pretty damn good.
but its hard to beat the laker 5 on the court AND 3 refs. its not the first time spurs go 0-2 then come out on top, not worried, they still need to come to texas.
its like i tell my uncle, the spurs are the raiders of the nfl…..bspn and any sportscaster NEVER have anything good to say about us and we never get any respect…..NEVER!
May 24th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
must be cause of the silver and black!
May 24th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
boo!!!!!!!1
May 24th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
yea riverside i like that myself .. when you wrote that i member people did that when we went to the SB and after the SB game against tampa bay everyone put away the raider stuff
May 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
wassup with stu Scotts cock eye
May 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Well STR, I can tell you that outside of Texas the Spurs get alot of respect, even by most Laker fans. Definitely not very Raiderish.
I have to concede the calls though. This sucks and is getting worse. I guess we just have to hope that they continue to give the home team the calls to even things out. But, you guys are in trouble and looked really bad yesterday. Not much the refs could do about that kind of performance.
I expect a big charge tomorrow, but you guys have got to score more points.
Good luck!
May 24th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
saint, thats good to know we get some respect out of texas. i meet more mavericks fans in texas than i do rockets or spurs, even some laker fans.
but bad you say…we looked like schit!
yall have made a defense that stopped us from going inside. did you notice almost all game we ran the same play, too much running around on our part and good defense on yalls. true the refs didnt have much to do with it yesterday but with the first game….. lets just say it should be 1-1 right now.
but home court does and always will hold the advantage, like the sixth man. if yall get us atleast one of the next two at our home….. i think we may be done.
good luck to you as well partner.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Boston is kick but
May 24th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Steve post 204:
Good post and so right on. I agree with you. We’re going to really do great, but some people are reluctant to see the obvious because of the last five years. This is going to be a fun year and sales on Raiders gear is going to go up and up.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
the other night my 4 year old had father’s night at his pre-school…
i wore my southwest florida raiders t-shhirt with the big shield on the front…
my son wore his raider’s outfit, black v-neck with a big raider’s logo on the front…
believe it or not… i ran into another raider die-hard…
i knew he was a die hard because he knew what was going on with the raiders…
naturally, we both agreed Gruden was over-rated and the raiders are going to the super bowl…
why am i telling you guys this ???
because for 42 years, i have followed and cheered for the raiders, through good times and bad…
and i will never turn my back on this team….
now… can i have a pint of Raiderade…
May 24th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Gannon2Brown, post 255:
If you truly believe that the Raiders will continue to lose and lose and lose, then you need a seeing-eye-dog, maybe more than that. The writing is clearly on the wall. No use repeating the numerous reasons why we’ll be going a minimum 11-5, probably 12-4 or 13-3 as they’ve been stated over and over…some can see them and obviously others can’t as they’re stuck in the previous 5 years. Go Raiders.
May 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Gannon2Brown, aka maddenraider is not a raider fan…
really, he is a bitch…
he is happiest when he is bitching…
if he couldn’t bitch, he would have to invent something that sounded a lot like bitching…
it is not easy being G2B, MR, etc…
the only thing he has to contribute… at all… is CO2…
May 24th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Anyone out there watch that ass-whipping we call the Eastern Finals????
Celts in 6! Like I said before game 1 and after game 2!
CT RAIDER
May 24th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Florida Pete: hahaha that was pretty good! (Co2 comment)! I enjoyed that!
CT RAIDER
May 24th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Florida Pete, sorry I struck such a nerve with you. If you’re that upset about my comments, I can only imagine what you’re like late in the fall when it becomes evident that the team is tanking, again.
Riverside Raider, 13-3? Wow. Nothing wrong with optimism, bud. But that’s a tall prediction.
But understand my point; Rather you’re right or wrong, Kiffin’s gone after this season. He will only stay for a pay raise and more control. Al won’t give that up with his cold dead hands.
13-3 is ridiculous, anyway, Riverside. We’re not playing the games on Madden. They’re real games, against real teams. 9-7 is a long, long, loooong shot. 13-3 is pure hyperbole. Might as well just predict we’re winning the Super Bowl, while we’re at it. Again nothing wrong with being an optimistic fanatic, but don’t expect anyone outside of the hard core Raider circle to take you seriously. In fact, expect many of them to gasp holding back their laughter, as well. Most of them aren’t that crazy.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
G2B” admit that his Co2 comment was funny.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
And seriously, Pete, how many times are you and Oakglenn going to say that I don’t have anything to contribute while still responding to me? If I’m that boring, scroll along. The fact that you guys respond to every single one of my posts, in lockstep, tells me that I must be saying something of substance. Again, thanks for the attention.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Florida Pete: i went to a local bar (cutters) and i was having a drink (or 2) watching the celtics. I was also waiting for the dodger/cardinal game to come on. a girl came in w/a dude and they both were wearing cardinal gear. I promptley said (living 15 min away from stl), cardinals suck. hahaha The chick gave me a stare down that would drop some guys. the dude laughed. i told them i’m a dodger fan. anyway, after talking i found out the ckick is also a RAIDER fan. It then made sense of the attitude! hahahahah
May 24th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Jim, you guys admit that I’m right most of the time about Al Davis, and surely I’ll admit the Co2 comment was funny.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
G2B: honestly, i don’t read most of the posts. when i sign on i go back about 4 and if they’re not too long i’ll read them and then i start.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Gannon2Brown Says:
May 24th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
And seriously, Pete, how many times are you and Oakglenn going to say that I don’t have anything to contribute while still responding to me? If I’m that boring, scroll along. The fact that you guys respond to every single one of my posts, in lockstep, tells me that I must be saying something of substance. Again, thanks for the attention.
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actually, i wasn’t responding to you, i was making the comment to Riverside Raider guy…
i actually don’t respond to you very often… especially after the comments you made about my wife and little boy..
i find you tedious, tiresome and annoying…
you repeat the same old crap… using a different label…
oh, i suppose i should give you “credit” for expelling the occasional bit of methane…
but everyone can see that for themselves by reading your posts…
May 24th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
What is up Nation???
IRON MAN….was okay, I was a little disappointed with its pace, but a sequel should certainly have legs.
Indiana Jones was decent too, but nothing special.
$4/gallon gas sucks.
May 24th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Maddenraider,…are people in the real world, who see you regularly, aware of your double life?…do you let them in on this part of your life?,..the part where you spends endless hours in a blog, having to continually change your identity,…Im willing to bet this is your secret,…they have no clue about this side of you.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
whats up nation!
May 24th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
dakokat: did you watch the Cs?
May 24th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
sorry one too many “t”s
May 24th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Jim (ct raider) Says:
May 24th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
sorry one too many “t”s
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hey, can i have it ????
May 24th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
? i wrote dakotat with a “t” at the end. i didn’t know i did that until i read it on line. but yeah, you can have it.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Gary Peterson
I didnt read your article. I dont feel it will informative. I also dont care to hear your personal limited understanding or opinion of Raider Football.
…how do you like them apples!?
Football is played between the hash-marks. Unfortunately our society and media likes hype od a sensational and often negative overtones.
These kind of articles take less talent so you know where to stick it!
THANKS JERRY
I think your real.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Fla Pete: I might as well write you a check right now because i’m going to use that Co2 comment!
it still kills me.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
you’re
May 24th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Pete, I don’t go there with the moms and daughters jokes. I leave that to others in here, like Dakota, evidently, who’s using such shots at me right now. Are you critical of him for it? I don’t expect you to be. This comments section is pure mob rule and hypocrisy is par for the course.
I don’t know why you guys are convinced I’m MaddenRaider, but whatever. Ignorance is bliss. My guess is that he’s someone who’s here quite often, and every time someone comes in with a view similar to his, heck, it might as well be him. Maybe it’s your guys’ way of convincing yourselves that there’s only one or two people in the entire world who think that Al Davis has lost his fast ball years ago. Whatever the case, knock yourselves out.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
you know what Gannon2brown you coulld be right davis will never give kiffin in rights not any coach rights to his team even if he goes 13-3 or 16-0
May 24th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
but dont hate on Kiffen ok
May 25th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Desert Pirate, post 237:
You’re right on…I totally agree with you….he is an idiot.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Well, I guess it’s time to say good nite to all you Raiders fans and good morning as well. Have a super tomorrow and good food and drink on Monday, Memorial Day.
It’s almost been 30 minutes and no posting, so I guess it time to sign off.
Hope the Lakers can win game #3 in San Antonio. However, that will be really tough. The Spurs will come out slamming and banging, as it’s do or die for them.
May 25th, 2008 at 1:06 am
Go Spurs.
May 25th, 2008 at 1:14 am
dakota-try over $5.00 a gallon for diesel in Calif.that really sucks.
May 25th, 2008 at 6:45 am
During the Senior Bowl both Kiffen and Mike Nolan wore the exact same clothing, promoting UnderArmour, this years sponsor. I heard the announcing crew talking about Kiffen’s choice of clothing but, never noticed what coach Nolan was wearing.
May 25th, 2008 at 7:29 am
Dakota - You toothless, dirty, gun loving hick, How’s it going?
Nice game last night. Oh, thats right, you missed it. You went to the movies with the wifey. How was Ironman? Did she let you get some Skittles?
Typical FAKER FAN.
Okay Faker fan, here’s the wager:
LOSER LEAVES TOWN MATCH
After My Celtics beat your Fakers in the finals you agree to never post your pointless drivel in here EVER, EVER again.
If by some miricle,and the Fakers somehow win the finals, I’ll agree to do the same.
I’m calling you out, Faker fan.
Are you a man or a mouse?
Ask your wife, I mean,…what do you say?
GO RAIDERS.
May 25th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Jerry McDonald..
“I have no doubt he was sending a message not wearing the shield during the Senior Bowl”
Look man, NOBODY at the senior bowl wears NFL logos. They ALL wore Under Armor this season and even the SF Niners coaches had only UA gear on without Niner emblems.
Were Nolan & Martz on their way out too?
May 25th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Bill Pickel: I’m a fellow Cs fan but damn you’re swinging hard on Dakota.
CT RAIDERR
May 25th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Thought we killed the gear kiffin wore several weeks ago.
Nobody flew their colors that day. How about we get a report on what D we are going to be running?
May 25th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Bottom Line - We improved for the first time in a while under Kiff. Games were close, the running game showed up with no new players being used. Al is going insane and hasn’t done much but throw his weight around lately. He wasn’t a very good coach when he gave it a shot why does he feel he needs to keep coaching.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge A.D. fan, but dang man, give the man a chance.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Last time I will say this. All these mediots just create all this drama just so we will infiltrate this blog.
Whether their opinions are true or not, they continue to talk trash about our beloved team where they are reporting in Raider country. This is BS!
I would call the Nation to boycott this blog. Maybe frequent JJ’s blog. He’s from Sac, but at least he doesn’t bad mouth our Raiders.
I’m from the Central Valley and a fan since 75′. To see all the bay area fans and Raider fans in general put up with this crap is a disgrace.
We have the power of the people not the mediots. And to you so called reporters. Get off the couch and put that gut and laptop away, get off your azz’ and get some real news for us. From the real people instead of speculating BS to draw the NATION to this blog.
WE deserve real news from the main sources. Godo your job or get out reporting RAIDERS News. AZZholes!!!
May 25th, 2008 at 9:51 am
mikeybaberaider Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 9:30 am
Al is going insane and hasn’t done much but throw his weight around lately. He wasn’t a very good coach when he gave it a shot why does he feel he needs to keep coaching.
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Al Davis 1963-1966 23 Wins 16 Losses 3 Ties
he turned around a team that was 1-13 in 1962…
i’m not going to say you don’t know what you’re talking about…
i’m just going to say that I don’t know what you’re talking about…
May 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am
This is a good spot to get day to day news.
http://www.raidernews.com/x/
Forget this toilet bowl til they decide to do some real reporting on ourbeloved team.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Greg and 49Dan,
We have been over this time and time again. Jerry thinks we have no memory and continues this idiotic dribble.
Ralph Barbieri was still talking about the phantom resignation letter last week on KNBR as if the story had just broke.
The bay area media is pure diarrhea.
# Greg Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 6:45 am
During the Senior Bowl both Kiffen and Mike Nolan wore the exact same clothing, promoting UnderArmour, this years sponsor. I heard the announcing crew talking about Kiffen’s choice of clothing but, never noticed what coach Nolan was wearing.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:23 am
R8R_ERN…. But where else can one get a daily dose of juvenile vitriol, except on this dump? as you call it.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:43 am
It’s fun to see all the haters falling for the misinformation the Raiders love to spit at the media.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:52 am
R8dern: that was pretty well said.
CT RAIDER
May 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
# Eyepatch Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 11:43 am
“It’s fun to see all the haters falling for the misinformation the Raiders love to spit at the media.”
……
What disinformation is that, Patch?
May 25th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Only the Raiders have denied the resignation rumor. I haven’t. I said “no comment”. I also said that “something was there”, and that “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”. Perhaps that’s what Barbieri and others are working with? Whatdya think?
May 25th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
The press stopped taking the Raiders press releases seriously YEARS ago…
When the Raiders insist that nothing is happening, anyone in the press with more than 3 stinking days of experience knows it’s b.s., and that it’s time to start delving. The only people who believe the Raiders press releases are the Davis loyalists. Even most Raider fans don’t take them seriously. They’ve learned long ago not to believe Al, as well.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Knapp is on the outs with the Niners, too. We both opted not to wear our team colors for the same exact reason.
Come on, guys. I thought Raider fans were the most knowledgeable in the game. You guys probably are, when you’re not in denial.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
I meant Nolan, btw, not Knapp. Have fun with it.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
http://www.raidernews.com/x/
^^^^ WTF kind of a website is this?!?
Why not just go to Raiders.com, the official website, as opposed to getting information from loyal Davis fanatics who are just propagating whatever the Raiders are saying, and cut out the middle man?
At least Raiders.com has cheerleader pics.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
You guys must be watching the Indy 500. I don’t take it seriously. Auto racing is not a sport. A girl’s in 9th place, for crying out loud.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Whites find one sport that they can beat blacks at (only because blacks opt not to play), and women wind up taking the sport over. God bless America.
May 25th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Lane Kiffin,(I know it isn’t really Lane Kiffin)
I’m reading your posts here, and the total lack of common sense that they display is appallin. If this is the level of intelligence that you display behind closed doors within the Raider organization, it will be no surprise if you’re fired after this season. Actually it would be quite welcome.
By the way, your Lane Kiffin impersonation is quite lame.
May 25th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
appalling rather. Either way, you sound ridiculous.
May 25th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Florida Pete, post 325:
Wow, I wouldn’t want you prosecuting me if you were the district attorney. That was a slam dunk. Case closed, case won. Florida Pete for DA.
May 25th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
DA ??? as in District Attorney ???
i prefer the respect and reverence accorded a Raiders fan…
i’ll have a Raiderade now…
May 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
lane kiffin you are devoid of intelligence.
May 25th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
oh and the best racing driver in the worlds name is Lewis Hamilton. He drives F1 for Mercedes Benz McLaren. And he is black.
May 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Hey Pete, make that two.
May 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
1 part gatorade, 3 parts jimmy beam
May 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
one ice cube
May 25th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
We need a new thread already.
Only 348 on the post count and this one is slippin fast.
By 700, it will be really ugly…
May 25th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
I would really love to see Danica Patrick die in a race someday,..was hoping it would happen today,…oh well, theres always next year.
May 25th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Post 349 is just an ignorant thing to say. Sad having you as a fellow Raider Fan.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
You guys who do you think is spewing this Racist, sexist garbage??? Who has been known to spew that??? Who has posted as me and done that????
The question you have to ask is why would anyone come in here over and over and over and over just to spew garbage??? What mental derangement would one have to have in order to do that??? That’s the question you have to ask when fraud boy comes here. Not how good would the Raiders be without Al Davis but why are you here so much spewing crap? Fraud boy don’t you have anything better to do??? Seriously.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
i got rhymes that are rough
and rhymes that are slick, i’m not
surprised you’re on my …..
countdown to armegeddon,2008 raiders bringing the rukas in full effect.
10 wins 6 losses . wild card believe that!
we will also challenge s.d for the division for real !
like my man run would say…. it’s like that and thats the way it is ,huh !
May 25th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
hey scott peterson what a jacked up thing to say about a beautiful woman Scott Peterson i hope you get raped in prison
May 25th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
theres one thing i can say about writers that write in newspapers they like to add words to peoples mouths . I have a nephew that plays high school sports and he is really good and a reporter wrote something about a team schoool and said they was easy and my nephew said he never talked to that reporter and i was like it makes you think what these writers got balls to write you know
May 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Florida Pete, post 342:
I hope you didn’t mis-understand me. I was giving a big time complement…stating that you kicked butt with your points…you won by a slam dunk. I was giving you respect, wouldn’t think otherwise.
Anyway, I just got back from an hour and a half walk to the top of Mount Rubidoux here in Riverside. Got home and read your response. Again, my compliments.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
I like Danica. I thought it was too cute when someone wrecked her and she got out stomping her tiny little feet and swinging her itty bitty fists.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
I just wanna scoop her up and bring her home.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Raider Serious, post 350:
Don’t even response to idiots posting such as 349. And don’t say that they’re fellow Raiders. Garbage like that is just sick and childish, surely a Raiders hater longing for responses.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
yea i hear ya Riverside i hate garbage like that
May 25th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Rukas, aka: old ladies, post 352:
You’re absolute right, just a little conservative. We’ll go 11-5 minimum…possible 13-3 and we’ll take our division.
LT isn’t going to be able to take a dink pass from Rivers out in the flat for 20 or 30 years. All that nonsense is over and done. Plus the dischargers have Norv Turner to deal with and that’s a negative. And, they’re owned by the Spanos. The Spanos probably have their sights on the LA market and that may be why they moved their training facilities to LA county. They’re on the down swing, while we’re on the up swing, except for us it’s going to be a long, successful up swing with many, many TD’s and thousands and thousands of yards gained, division titles, playoffs and Super Bowls. Go Raiders.
May 25th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Rukas…post 352…correction on my post 360…meant to say yards and not years.
May 25th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Sitting here trying to think of something positive and interesting and stimulating about our Raiders, as our postings today are a little slow. Guess we need a new topic, but Jerry’s probably out of town or on the barbarque and drinking a cold beer.
Nothing comes to mind that hasn’t already been said. We get a lot of opinions and insights here, and then a few stupid comments like post 349.
See you guys later…Lakers’ game coming up soon.
May 25th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
ribbit…..ribbit ribbit…..
May 25th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
ribbit……………GO LAKERS!!……ribbi ribbit…..
May 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
I never thought Tuiasosopo would be a Raider again. Strange how things turn out sometimes. I really thought he was unhappy here and wouldn’t ever want to return. I guess things change when nobody else wants you. In the end, getting paid becomes more important.
May 25th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
im tired of these kiffin articles, about his moping and whining, just fire his useless a.ss, al davis should have just hired rex ryan, and allowed the ryan brothers to clean house and bring some disipline.
May 25th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
8-8 definitely seems realistic. 10-6 would put us in the playoff hunt. I think we are going to have too many new players in too many new positions to have a solid 11-5 run. But then again, Rothleisberger won the Super Bowl in his first year, so anything is possible.
May 25th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
WHEN IS CLIFF BRANCH COMING BACK? BRING BACK TOM FLORES AS HEAD COACH, AL DAVIS YOU OLD FART WAKE UP, GET RID OF THE JUMPSUITS AND CLEAN HOUSE
May 25th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Riverside Raiders Fan Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Florida Pete, post 342:
I hope you didn’t mis-understand me. I was giving a big time complement…stating that you kicked butt with your points…you won by a slam dunk. I was giving you respect, wouldn’t think otherwise.
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i did take it as a compliment…
you just got my reaction to the notion of being a DA…
since i don’t want to get into my feelings about a broken down justice system…
anyway, thank you for the compliment and the feedback…
take care…
May 25th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Oakglenn Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
8-8 definitely seems realistic. 10-6 would put us in the playoff hunt. I think we are going to have too many new players in too many new positions to have a solid 11-5 run. But then again, Rothleisberger won the Super Bowl in his first year, so anything is possible.
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man, i just can’t shake the feeling that we are going to stomp…
more Raiderade please… and take care of my compadre Oakglenn…
Raidering on…
May 25th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Pete…that’s “Raider on Dude”…and ya gotta do the devil sign with your hand and bang yourd head Ozzy style…
May 25th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Here’s to ya Pete!!! (glasses clink)
May 25th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Hey Tui sucks,…you like to bag on athletes who actually have made it to the pros,…what have you done?…where have you gone?…you are probably just a loser sitting at home critisizing others when you yourself have never done anything….your jealousy is ruining your meaningless life.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Lowdown in Beijing Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Pete…that’s “Raider on Dude”…and ya gotta do the devil sign with your hand and bang yourd head Ozzy style…
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banging one’s head “Ozzy style”… i’ve done enough of that over the past 5 years…
doing the devil sign… personally, i think that’s what got us into this mess…
“Raider on Dude”… clearly i am not up to date on the latest exchanges of comraderie between two consenting Raider fans…
one can only promise to do better…
(sigh… so much is expected these days…)
May 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Losers like “Tui sucks”,..they have never strapped on a jock,…they were the wimps in high school,..now in blogs they talk tough,..”Tui sucks” hates the fact that guys like Tui are in the NFL,..while they still live with their mom.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
sup nation
May 25th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Scott Peterson - Doesn’t your name signify a guy who killed his pregnant wife?
May 25th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Scott Peterson Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Losers like “Tui sucks”,..they have never strapped on a jock,…they were the wimps in high school,..now in blogs they talk tough,..”Tui sucks” hates the fact that guys like Tui are in the NFL,..while they still live with their mom.
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Marques… didn’t you promise Al, if he brought you back, that you would stay out of chat rooms and off the blogs ???
run along now…
May 25th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
What difference does it make Huff?….I hated her,..she was in the way,…it had to be done,..so she suffered…bfd,…it should be legal to get rid of your wife.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
I like tui pluss now we can try and trade andrew
May 25th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Pete,..thankfully dorks like you are in Florida,…and not here…stay there,..we dont want you here.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
i’m sorry to the “fire kiff” types, but unless we commit to some system- any system- for awhile, this culture of losing will not change. i’ve been a Raider fan since the ’60s, and we always had success because we were consistent. players need to understand and perfect what they are to do. we used to make miracles: such as a useless fullback like billy cannon: when he came to us: instant all-pro tight end. where has that magic gone? to a new coaching system every year or two. tim brown, who bled s&b, didn’t want to spend his last year with us because he didn’t want to learn a new system at that stage of his career. who would? what porter said about our play-action becoming a sad joke made sense. i didn’t want that arkansas halfback, but maybe some of you guys were right. we have to become feared again. maybe harris can become our qb saving lt (i wanted clady). ok, i don’t mind being wrong if you guys are right. but we’ll never know if we don’t stick with our coach: win OR LOSE. if we do this, we’ll be winning soon enough. from an old RAIDER fan to the Nation: GO RAIDERS!!!!
May 25th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Nope,..sorry San Jose Raider,..Andy will not be traded.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
I like the pick up of Koren Robinson if he comes cheap. We’d cannot start a rookie or Curry as 1-2 WR cause that don’t SCARE anybody in the secondary. We’d need speed and Walker ain’t there yet.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Coinman,…you think someday you can post something that doesnt start with the fact you have been a fan since the `60`s?
May 25th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Walter may NOT fit Kiffin scheme, but, if another coach comes in he would flourish IMO. Oh well.. I still like Walter as No.2 cause Russell could get injured if not well condition.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Hey Oaktown,..f-u and Robinson.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Hey Oaktown Raider,..you are the current vagina posting here,..grow a pair and come back later you female dog.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
I like the billing of DMC v. LT of the Bolts too. The Raiders gonna get alot of national exposure. It’s gonna be like old time 1980’s football.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Koren Robinson got SPEED. Let’s be realistic, Curry and the rookies are SLOT WRs. They’d scare NOBODY and with Russell arm we’d need the deep threat again.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
This year’s Oakland Raiders gonna resemmble alot like the 1980’s Raiders with Allen and Bo Jackson. Offense with high octane and decent defense. The Raiders gonna score alot of points and running the ball will give the defense time to rest. Sounds like old time Oakland Raiders football to me.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Scott Peterson Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Pete,..thankfully dorks like you are in Florida,…and not here…stay there,..we dont want you here.
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oh, no…. oh my god… somebody help me…
i’m a DORK… there must be a cure…
wait… i hear a noise… what is it…
It is I, the Big Raider in the Sky…
and i can help you with your dorkitaciousness(1)… here, try this… (hands that idiot dork Fl Pete a drink)…
wow, Big Raider, i no longer feel the dorkitality(2) with which i have been afflicted… that’s good what is it…
it’s Raiderade… 1 part Gatorade and 3 parts Jimmy Beam… you can make your own…
this guy Scott Peterson, he hurt my feelings really bad when he called me a dork…
Scott Peterson ??? Blogger boy Scott Peterson ??? you gotta be kidding… he used to go out at night and make money by betting he could fit his fully erect pecker into a shot glass… he won a lot of money… go ahead and use it kid…
gee, golly, Mr Big Raider in the Sky… thank you…
(1) whatever
(2) whatever
May 25th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
I like Chris Long but the pick up of DMC at No. 4 might be a blessing in disguise. DMC is immediate impact on offense. Chris Long will take time to dominate and develop IMO.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Tui is OK as No.3 QB. He’s used to holding the clipboard and come in as immediate backup QB. He’s better than Otis because of his NFL experience.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
I don’t like to attack posters, but, please just keep up the football talk.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Pete,..as I said,…..stay in Florida,..we dont want you here….you are unwanted….by the way, your attempt at a funny post failed.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Poor Pete,..took all that time..biiiiiig effort,..thought it would come off as funny,..sorry,….it didnt,…hey maybe in Florida thats funny,…as I said Pete,..stay there.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Scott Peterson Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Pete,..as I said,…..stay in Florida,..we dont want you here….you are unwanted….by the way, your attempt at a funny post failed.
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are you kidding??? i’m still laughing…
you want to put that to a vote ????
Post # 392, gentlemen…
Funny ??? or Not Funny ???
May 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Kiffin offense resemmble the WCO of the late 1980’s 49er’s team. I like it as long as it scores alot of points. The great Raiders teams always rack up the points if you watch old Raiders football games in the past.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Lakers look good yo
May 25th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
I like the Lakers! Kobe’s the man.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Pete,…its sweet that you feel the need to copy my post and attach it to yours,..you will notice I have no need to copy yours.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
It is unfortunate the posting has degenerated into name-calling. Why don’t we focus on just discussing the team and simple accord each other room to voice different opinions? Name calling and personal squabbles on BLOGS are not useful.
I agree with many who say 8-8 is probable. Last year, with QB-by-committee, with a half-broken defense and an offense with rookie star and half-broken veteran, we nearly won 8-8 and could possibly have eked out a 9-7; that was how close the games went. This season with a whole new cast of talent in QB, RB, SS, CB and some changes in LB and the DL, 8-8 is a definite possibility. 10-6 if we get a couple of lucky bounce or a few timely turn-overs.
It does not seem we can make the play-off this year, the DL does not induce a lot of confidence. It may surprise all of us but it may still be full of holes as before. Sapp did say Kelly has very good three-technique, so hopefully Sapp was not exaggerating. With our offense scoring points this year, the defense should stay off the field longer and be fresher and hopefully, it can perform better. The same happened when Gruden was here. It was the offense that helped the defense.
Last year, Kiffin’s system was hamstrung, unable to really get going. It reminded me of Gruden’s first year. It took Gruden two years to install and the third year was when the team jelled. Kiffin may need the same. This season, the team will jell, become really good at executing his system. Defense will jell with Hall hopefully being a leader. If we get to 8-8, 9-7 or 10-6 this season, next year will be a real special year.
Let’s hope it all works out and the team plays hard, then win, lose or tie, it will be worth going to the Coliseum! I can smell the grass already!
It will be so refreshing to finally have a year after year improvements all over again.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Joe Montana would be a great fit for Kiffin’s offense even if he’d makes a comeback. Kiffin offense don’t require a strong armed QB IMO.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Why do some of you use name calling? Please post something worth reading.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Kenny,..I would,..but we get women like Pete,..posting as men,…thank God I would never visit Florida,..likely the whole state is full of losers like Pete.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I say 8-8 is possible. That’s probaly the best this year’s Raiders team could do if they all jell together.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Oaktown,..stop your whining.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Kiffin’s system is very much like Walsh’s or even Gruden’s or Shanahan’s. JeMarcus sort of reminds me of Elway. If he really can play like Elway, we may be Bowl-bound in four years.
I was frustrated by the lack of short and mid range passes last year. It probably was just lack of good quality QB plays and lack of productive WR work. This year, with a new crop of WR and good QB work, may be that will change. The short passes open up the runs and the runs will open up more short and mid range passes. Once those two get rolling, throwing deep becomes a viable options.
Long time fans will remember the old “Three puffs and out” days when we would try to throw long for three downs and punt. We had ineffective QB who could not throw good short- or mid-range passes and that killed our running plays.
The WR corp is looking good on paper this year. We will see…
May 25th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Scott Peterson ???
Blogger boy Scott Peterson ??? you gotta be kidding… he used to go out at night and make money by betting he could fit his fully erect pecker into a shot glass…
he won a lot of money…
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i read it again… and it’s as funny as the first time !!!
May 25th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I believe Kiffin and Gruden system are the same. They all derived from Walsh WCO offense of the 1980’s. Alot of rolling out etc. just like Montana and Young of the 49er’s. They all were MOBILE.
May 25th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Jell?…hmmm,…..is that a new word?
May 25th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
I say if the rolling out buys time for the QB to throw, then, this is a good offense for this bunch. Plus, DMC is a threat as RB or receiver coming out of the back field. I just like to see a healthy Bush. I cannot wait to see the pre-season games this summer. It’s gonna be exciting Raiders football again. Fargas is Fargas, the kid always runs hard.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Pete,..nope,..failed again,..better luck next time….actually you should stop trying to be funny,…its not happening for you.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
scotty…
careful if you come to florida…
you would have to register, you know…
even if the child you molested was yourself…
May 25th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
We’d hard alot of DROPS last season. The WRs corp needs to hold on to the football. Alot of new faces at wideouts. Let’s hope they make impact.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I’m out…you guys don’t talk football enough.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Strike three Pete,..you just proved that you cannot be funny,..witty,..clever,..nothing,…just the typical dork in a blog…but please keep trying to be funny,..hey look, your lack at being humorous isnt terrible Pete,..thats why you are hangin in a blog not being funny,…instead of being on stage being unfunny.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
BTW… my other poster name is Raiders Fanatic. Just Raiders baby!
May 25th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
hey scott peterson: after the sickness you posted about the race car driver, do you think your drothers should matter to me?
May 25th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Goodnight all,..Pete has bored be enough,..hes good for insomnia,…thanks Pete,…by the way, the people in your house are bored of you too.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Coinman,..I couldnt care less what matters to you.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Pete i’m on wine and narcos and I think your funny, scott get some narcos man and live!!
May 25th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
scott peterson: then we are agreed in our respect for each other.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Narcos?…what the hack is Narcos?
May 25th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Madden,..your gag would go over better if you refer to the mas Norcos….sorry man.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
scott i’m messed up man and i can spell better than you hack -heck, man you are useless dude.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
Night “people”,…Im headin to the bar,…Pete,..Madden,..you both need a lesson,..actually you both just got one….night.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
scott what is madden? you are wierd.. man get some reading glasses.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Madden,..maybe you have had to many Narcos…lol….but hey, Madden,..Norcos are much better then Narcos.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Oh,..sorry Agrium….what was I thinking?….lol.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
scott..yeah lol..whatever
May 25th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Florida Pete, post 369:
If you even want to talk about a broken justice system don’t get me started. Just remember, I live in California, The “prison capital of the world,” second to none in regard to “long term imprisonment.” We have so many prisons and people locked up that the “Prison Guards” have the strongest union and the most powerful lobyist with the biggest bankroll in California.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
US = 5% of world’s population…
US = 20% of the world’s prison population…
(although i must admit… surely, surely… there must be room for Scott Peterson the Blogger)
May 25th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
yeah and most people in prision are ther for nonviolent crime
May 25th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
408RAIDER Says:
May 25th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
yeah and most people in prision are ther for nonviolent crime
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that’s the most upsetting of all…
i gotta get some sleep…
take care, guys…
May 25th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
scott..who is madden your bud, loser or dog..man you are messed up
May 25th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
meanwhile, it would be interesting if someone passed on personal insults and commented on my call for somekind- anykind, of consistency in the philosophical system of Raider coaching…. i’m for it!!!(meaning, let’s hang with a coach regardless of record for at least three years: (with all the new players, this is kiffin’s first).
May 25th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Oaktown Raider:
You’re so right about Chris Long. At first I wanted him to fall to us because his dad is “howie-baby” and one of our Hall of Famers and to have his son with his same old number seemed the way to go.
But you’re so right about Darren MaFadden being an immediate impact. After watching him in action and reading all the insightful information on this site, there was no question. He’s a unique running back with multiple abilities and multiple options. If we need a DE we can pick one up next year…second, third or fourth round. GO Dmac….GO RAIDERS…11-5 minimum.
May 25th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Coinman
agreed we have to give Kiffin a chance this is truly his team now in regards to the O and we must give him a chance to do his thing with our O
May 25th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Kenny King, post 403:
Good post…I agree with most of your observations. On the positive side and so we as Raiders fans can feel more optimistic, can you think of a better five offensives players than: Jamarcus Russell, Darren MaFadden, Michael Bush, Justin Fargas and Zack “freaking” Miller. Other than Fargas, the other four are just “babies-in-the-rough.” They’re so “freaking” young and their up side will keep getting better every year. Darren is so young, he can’t go into a California Pizza Parlor and order a “cold-beer” with his pizza. I don’t know about you, but I can’t eat pizza or “mexican-food” without a cold beer. In fact it might be against the law to attempt to do so, I’m not sure. Our offensive backfield are diamonds in the rough, and their sparkle and brilliance will continue to increase game after game, after game. CORRECTION: Win, after win, after win.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
40braider: thank you. the Raider Romes of the past were not built in a day!!!
May 25th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
a lot of hate on this website! I just want to say to Dakota…. the longer your series goes.. the better chance my Cs have!
CT RAIDER
WHERE’S THE LOVE?
May 25th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
actually Jim as I have said for months its one person who thinks he’s funny coming in here making a mess. Scott Peterson sold manure than killed his pregnant defenseless wife and unborn child. Looks like he’s back to selling manure on this site. The question you have to ask is why anyone would take a useless, gutless loser as his name?
May 26th, 2008 at 12:11 am
og: I agree. that is sick. i haven’t read his posts but it’s uncalled for to have that name.
CT RAIDER
Although, i think i’m kind of funny. that’s ha ha funny.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:24 am
alright, then, God bless the real Raider fans, and may he give the rest of us the light to recognize them. good night to the real Raider Nation!
May 26th, 2008 at 12:30 am
GO SPURS!
May 26th, 2008 at 12:46 am
i should say: in view of all the hatred on this site from those who are not real Raider fans… God bless the real Raider fans , and may HE give us all the light to recognize and only converse with our true friends. the rest we should completely shut out, and no longer dignify with any arguement. good night to the Raider Nation!!!
May 26th, 2008 at 1:04 am
coinman: That’s deep. Do you do negotiations as well? I need a negotiator for my salary tuesday at 9am. let me know if you’re available.
Go Spurs! Go Celtics!
CT RAIDER
May 26th, 2008 at 1:46 am
yes god bless us raider fans
May 26th, 2008 at 3:42 am
Gary Peterson is an attention getting writer.It’s like this,with all of the money that Al Davis spent this off season for his Raiders,that current coach who happens to be Lane Kiffin must have at least a 8 win season plus that coach who happens to be Lane Kiffin must have a good start to that season.Beating Denver will definitely be great in the eyes an mind of Al Davis.If those two things doesn’t happen then that coach who happens to be Lane Kiffin probably will be let go.So,all these rumors an hogwash B.S. about Lane Kiffin being let go before the season starts are nonsense an don’t pay them any attention especially wheres Gary Peterson is concerned.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:46 am
We should give Kiffin the chance to show us he has the mindset of a good young coach. We need youth to get over this old slump we have. We gave Gruden the chance and he didnt take us to the Super Bowl.We came close. It took him a few years to get it right. I think we are on the right track with Kiffin,get off his back. We dont need a coaching change every year! Damn!
May 26th, 2008 at 4:14 am
I’m definitely giving Lane Kiffin a chance,it’s the Haters that come on our blog saying negative B.S. trying to get into our heads with back and forth nonsense.They know that we are passionate about our Raiders and they try to take advantage of that knowing that they’re going to get attention from us.It’s tough for us not to say anything back and they know that.They hide behind the computer on our blog by trolling,changing names from time to time,just trying and saying anything that they think will bother us.It’s sad but,some will even copy names just to get into that raider fans heads-now thats Sick.Go Raiders.
May 26th, 2008 at 7:00 am
good morning, nation…
remember veterans on memorial day…
think of the soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines on this Memorial Day…
let’s bring them home, the sooner the better…
first order of business this morning…
a good description of the beating Denver is gonna get when they come to visit the Raiders to start the season…
who wants to go first???
May 26th, 2008 at 7:31 am
For all the haters, enjoy a lesson about winning.
http://www.raiders.com/history/Default.aspx?id=874
May 26th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Denver at Oakland, Monday Night Opener:
First drive for Denver, 3rd and 5, Cutler drops back to pass, but what is this? An unexpected blitz by Kirk Morrison from his new outside linebacker position! Cutler fumbles, Tommy Kelly picks up the ball and rumbles 19 yards for a TD!
7-0 Raiders.
Broncos FG.
7-3 Raiders.
Broncos kick off to the Raiders, the rookie takes the kick to the 45 yard line. Behind Bush and McFadden the Raiders drive to the Broncos 25 yard line. On a 3rd and 7 Russell drops back for his first pass of the year and hits Miller for 14 yards. McFadden takes it to the house from the 11 on the next play.
14-3 Raiders.
Late second quarter, Broncos line up to punt. JLH takes the punt at the Oakland 35…with confidence he streaks up the middle of the field, makes one cut and is gone.
21-3 Raiders.
Raiders receive the second half kickoff. Russell drops back to pass, but is picked off by Champ, who takes it back for a TD.
21-10 Raiders.
Russell immediately redeems himself by hitting McFadden for a 20 yard gain and then hitting a streaking Drew Carter down the right sideline for 43 yards. McFadden and Bush take the Raiders down to the Broncos 3 yard line. Bush takes it in for a TD.
28-10 Raiders.
Early third quarter, FG Raiders.
31-10 Raiders.
Broncos fumble on the next drive. Russell hits Miller in the back of the end zone for a TD.
38-10 Raiders.
Middle of the 4th quarter, FG Raiders.
41-10 Raiders.
Kiffin calls off the dogs.
Final Score 41-10.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:53 am
Dakota, i have to disagree with you on post 256…..
We continue the ground and pound score another TD as
Kiffin does not call of the dogs we score again 48-10.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:06 am
eyepatch: I remember the pitt game in 80. my bedroom was down stairs and i would sneak (literally crawl) through the kitchen and peak into the living room to watch that Monday night game. I believe we were down 17-7 before plunkett went off. We also had a kick return (ira mathews?????). i believe halftime was 28-24. All my friends were steeler band wagoners and wore their gold and black jackets (similar to HS jacket material). I was happier than hell when we whipped that ass!
CT RAIDER
May 26th, 2008 at 10:07 am
I can’t wait until the season starts even the NBA Playoffs aren’t pacifying enough for me.
It’s goingto be fun watching the young talent develope especially Russell, it’s just that it’s been soo long since we’ve had a home grown talent at QB really develope into something special.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:12 am
BHP: Celts tonight!!!!!!!!!
I knew you’d like that!
CT RAIDER
May 26th, 2008 at 10:14 am
okay, nation…
awards time…
the award for best psychic goes to… envelope please….
Dakota !!!! yes, yes, yes…
his post at 8:46am on May 26th was the very best lockdown prediction of the upcoming season !!!!
second place goes to Thec… (c’mon Thec… we’re trying to be realistic here…)
May 26th, 2008 at 10:15 am
BHP: I’;m thinking of this commercial for this coming NFL year.
a guy sits at his computer having difficulty in school. His mind in whirling. He has counselors trying to help him make it through the coming year. Then his attitude turns neurotic. The connect him to a religious leader to snap him out of it. then they find out it’s the priest who turning the clamps on his head.. the black hole priest!!!!!!!
are you ready for some football!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what do you think?
May 26th, 2008 at 10:18 am
time to grab the little guy and throw him into the pool…
you guys take care…
have a great Raider day…
oh…
i was instructed last night as to the proper way to urge comraderie amongst the Nation… (this will be my first attempt utilizing this new information… please keep in mind i’ve never done this before…)
ehem…
RAIDER ON DUDE !!!!
(how was that… okay ???, could use some work ???)
May 26th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Oh yeah!! I’ll have the kid signing the “Autumn wind” with rest of the class in chorus.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:22 am
i just reread and it needs a lot of clarity. not the same image as in my head. crazy ass bhp would be controlling the kid through the computer. friends and family worry for the well being of the kid… etc.etc.
i’m not a producer.
CT RAIDER
May 26th, 2008 at 10:22 am
hahahaha
May 26th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Sorry I swung and missed. Oh well!! we tried.
May 26th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Gonna get somethin to eat, check back later.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Hey fellow raider fans i dont know about you guys but i would like the Raiders to beat the crap out of the Pats. the Bolts the Donkeys and them damn Chiefs you problem why say Pats cause i still have nightmares about that one game the one game we could have went to the Super Bowl
May 26th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Dakota -
Nice post #456
Sorry about your boys last night, just a speed bump on the road to the championship.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:47 am
try not to go to fast over those speedbumps, they might make you spill something and ruin your week!
GO SPURS!
May 26th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
You guys get way ahead of yourselves with scores like 41-10 against Denver. We haven’t become a dominant team yet people. We have to be realistic. That game is going to be close and both sides will have their share of mistakes. If anything, it will once again come down to who makes the final field goal or who calls that last minute timeout to ice the kicker. Scores like 41-10 make me believe that we’re a great paper team once again. When it comes to the Raiders, you can’t believe anything until you see it so even though I hope we win like that…the score will more likely be 23-20 and you know it.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Isn’t it great, Huff? It used to be that just believing the Raiders could win was the only qualification for being a “real fan”. Now, you have to believe they’ll beat Denver by 31 or more in order to be a real fan. Pretty soon, the standard will be that if you don’t truly believe the Raiders will win the rest of their games until the NFL ends or the world ends, whichever comes first, you’re not a real fan.
There’s a reason why Raider fans blindly loyal to Al Davis are the most ridiculed fans in all of sports.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Dakota, did you pull that mock Raider/Denver box score from a game you played on Madden, on the rookie level?
May 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
That’s funny you did that though, Dakota. I haven’t done anything like that since I was like 10 years old. I forget how fun it is. I used to make my own standings and everything. Playoff results and Super Bowl.. I guess when you grow up, though, you get more realistic. Well, at least some of us…
May 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Anyone knows any news from oddell thurman. Did hes gonna dress some silver and black uniform in 2008?
May 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
well for me on rookie level the score is 119-0 raiders win over the donkeys
May 26th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Dakota fantasizes:
“First drive for Denver, 3rd and 5, Cutler drops back to pass, but what is this? An unexpected blitz by Kirk Morrison from his new outside linebacker position!”
…..
Raider blitz? LOL! Right off the bat you’re in fantasy land, Dakota.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
http://www.rivals.com/video.asp?section=fbrecruit&pkey=&vidtype=amp&vidid=3394
Jerry Rice Jr.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Spawn, I rarely score more than 35 to 38 pts on Madden. I really do call off the dogs when I get a big lead, even though it’s just a video game. I believe the football gods are always watching.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Remember…it was an “unexpected” blitz. NOBODY saw it coming. lol. Denver just happens to screw up on the very first drive and we score right away. Morrison playing outside linebacker is another wish. Did we forget the part where Travis Henry rushes for 90 yards on the first drive because thats what teams do against the Raiders?
May 26th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I scored about 255 points in one of the older Madden’s by just throwing the deep ball on every play. I can’t remember how many minutes per quarter I did or what the other teams score was if any but the older Madden games were easier to dominate the score. Its much more difficult to do that in the newer games. I remember Barry Sanders being unstoppable in the older games as well.
As I got better playing Madden and thinking I was all that and a bag of potato chips, I went online with one of the newer games and got crushed 101-0. What a blow to the ego. I can’t spend as much time as a kid who’s 10 years old and has all the time in the world.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Does anyone else think the “All MAdden” level on ‘08 is too easy vs. CPU? I’m not even an experienced video gamer, I only play when I’m bored, and I’m killing even Indy and NE by half time. Actually, Indy will give me a game. Manning always hits Clark and I swear Maddens’ programmers think that Clark is Carl Lewis or something when he gets in the open field. But I usually put them away midway through the 3rd quarter. All you have to do is run the ball then use that weak I play action to Porter, and it’s a 50 yard gain. I swear, Russell can throw that thing on a dime for 70 yards. I threw a bomb for a TD right before the half, from my own 20 yard line, and Porter caught the thing right on the goal line! Oh, it’s a blast. But come on, a bit unrealistic. You can talk about anti Raider bias in the press all you want, but there are definitely some Raider fans in that EA programming dept.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I really suck at running franchises, too. It’s amazing I have the gall to criticize Al Davis. I couldn’t sign any of my draft picks for my current season, because of cap space. Had to cut all of them before week one.
May 26th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Al’s got his problems, but I’ve never recalled him having to send an entire draft home. I guess I have to admit, it’s harder than it looks. But on the same token, Al makes the big bucks and if he can’t take the criticism, he knows where the door is.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
MR - Sign all the big time players to long term 7 year contracts and you will be able to afford everyone. Every year, re-sign them again and they will always play on their 1st year salary without reaching the later years at alot more money. I will exceptions with certain players and if I sign a better player, I won’t keep re-signing the backup and he ends up being trade bait. I always trade people and draft picks for the highest draft pick I can possibly get and I don’t sign all my other draft picks because they’re usually scrubs.
I went 7 years with one of my drafts and had a #1 overall pick QB, #1 overall pick RB, #1 overall pick WR, #1 overall pick TE and so on. I sign the best players in free agency, sign them to 7 year deals and draft the highest best player in the draft and the team is awesome. I put up some mean stats over time. The 1st year is the hardest because you have to play with the current crappy team and I played every single game going 16-0 every season and winning the Superbowl every year. Fun stuff.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Also…don’t ever trade people you’ve signed to long term deals because you will get HUGE salary cap penalties of up to 25 Million against your cap. Make sure you have certain players you want to trade on 2 year deals or something like that so you can trade them with your draft picks to teams with the highest draft pick.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Of course…Madden 2008 menu’s completely suck and aren’t as user friendly as the older games but oh well. For those that want to criticize Kiffin, go ahead and buy NFL Head Coach 2009 when it comes out. That should be a really interesting game. The older version sucked but the people who make the Madden games have gotten together to make this game MUCH BETTER and I believe it will be.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Dakota, post 456:
Good post…it appears that we had the same dream, almost. My dream was a little different.
Raiders receive the second half kickoff and JLH returns the ball to the 34 yard line. First and ten and JR handsoff to McFadden going right, he slashes right and cuts in off tackle for 7 1/2 yards. 2nd and 2 1/2 yards to go. MaFadden from the I formation, goes in motion right, Russell takes the snap and quickly fakes a pass to MaFadden in the right flat, then turns left and hit Bush, who had faked into the left side of the line, but then slanted out back into our left flat where he catches a a backwards pass from Russell. Bush runs about 7 to 8 yards, left and towards the line of scrimage, when he stops and throws down field to a wide open Drew Carter who catches the ball and runs for a TD. Score after the extra point, Raiders 28, donkeys 3. Then my dream continues more or less like yours. My final score 56-10 Raiders win big.
Shanarat walks off the field with his head down and refuses to walk to mid-field and congradulate a smiling Kiffen. In our media booth, Flores turns to Plunkett and says: “Did you see that, Shanahan refused to give Kiffen his winning congrad.” Plunkett responds: “Doesn’t surprise me, I expected as much.”
May 26th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Floride Pete, post 454:
Good post and good way to open up the areas of discussion. Have a good Memorial Day and make sure your beer is served at 32 degrees. Same to all Raiders fans and hopefully we don’t have the haters posting their garbage on a day of importance to all our Vetrans.
Special thanks to all the vets and to all the men and women who have served or who are currently serving.
May 26th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Jim(CTRaider): never tried a salary negotiation- however, as you are one of us, may i wish you the very best and a RAIDER victory tomorrow…
May 26th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Florida Pete: post 461:
Can I get an “honorable mention for my dream sequence on post #489?”
May 26th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
i agree the denver game is going to be tight- special teams will be important and many pro bettors won’t bet on the first 6 games as teams are still getting the kinks out, esp. on defense. however, i see a great Raider win which will get us on track and the donkeys playing catch-up.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
can i call them the “ponies”? i am a democrat and am getting symbolic schizophrenia…
May 26th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Dakota Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Denver at Oakland, Monday Night Opener:
Kiffin calls off the dogs.
Final Score 41-10.
Postscript to the game accounts from Dakota:
While Shanarat is in the bathroom of his office vomiting, a very very distraught Pat Bowlen comes into the post game conference room and fires Shanarat on the spot saying, “the team needs new direction.”
May 26th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Coinman, post 494:
Call them ponies if you want, but consider that ponies are positive in nature and young kids love them and enjoy their pony ride…it’s too positive to give to our rivals and Shanarat.
Donkeys, Mule-rats, Shanarat, etc, etc, just go with the nature of the beast. Besides, with Diebold, Inc.,
counting the votes (Republican manipulated) chances are your vote will not be counted, or it will go to the McCain side. HBO has a special going this week showing how many elections are stolen. It’s a must see.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Oakglenn, add to that Al Davis firing Kiffin despite the victory, for not getting the ball to Walker enough, and we have our fantasy recap of that game ready to go.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Eyepatch: thanks for the comeback memories!
May 26th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Riverside,
Watched “Recount” this morning. It’s really sad. It’s amazing what we tolerate in this country, just because we have SUV’s and cell phones. In lesser developed countries, if a court ruled against a recount like that there would be bodies burning in the streets. We just went on with our christmas shopping. We keep it up, and we’ll be an underdeveloped country before we know it. The middle class is vanishing thanks to the very people that stole that election.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Riverside: think i’ll go with shanarat’s boys. thanks. and i will try to catch that special. i feel (w/o making this site about politics) that your warnings are right on target…
May 26th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
we need a new fix jerry
May 26th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Another interesting point made in the film, though, is that the main reason Gore finally gave up was because it was made more than clear to him that the same people who lobbied (and ruled…) against a recount were the same people that would sabotage his presidency. Look what they did to Clinton…not to mention Clinton’s circle. Never mind what they put Bill through. They threw Susan McDougal in a max security federal prison because she refused to testify…about consensual adult sex! They threw her on the main line with women who’d murdered. Gore has family and friends to think about, too. And there was no doubt they would be in danger of the same harassment if the recount was allowed and the results went his way, which they obviously would have.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
i see MR: (Mentally Retarded) is going to try to throw us off the Raiders. let’s not cooperate, true fans! lets have some more Raider material!
May 26th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Coinman, who is this MR you speak of??? I don’t even see his posts.
May 26th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
booring
May 26th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Sorry, guys. I’m done talking politics. Didn’t mean to ruffle any feathers. But take it easy on Riverside Raider for starting the political discussion. Seriously, you guys, chill out. Ease up on the insults directed at him.. Come on, he’s just trying to make conversation…
May 26th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
even if i agree, MR, Madden Raider, etc. is a MISERABLE ally. i’d rather this person, while hating the Raiders, would also hate my political side…
May 26th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
So, who’s got another fantasy box score for this upcoming season? Why don’t one of you guys break down the play by play as to how we beat San Diego 127-0 the first time we play them next year?
May 26th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Coinman, ever occurred to you that I’m right about both this country and the Raiders?
May 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
“Coinman, who is this MR you speak of??? I don’t even see his posts.”
……..
That’s courageous…
May 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Oakglenn: i didn’t see your comment on time. now that you mention it, i don’t recall this creature’s posts either… on the other hand, i’m worried about the o-line in general and harris in particular. any thoughts, NATION?
May 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
I’ve heard of Niner fans using filtering software to block posts that might hurt their sensitive little feelings, but never Raider fans. I’ve always assumed the Raider Nation to be willing to take anything, and throw it right back tenfold. Guess times are changing. Have fun under your rock, Oakglenn. I’ll be here bashing Al Davis, as usual, if you want to step up and defend his honor. I’ll understand if you’re too timid, though. I’ll admit, I can get pretty rough. I don’t blame you for not wanting any.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Coinman, you joining Oakglenn under his rock? Wow. How soft… What has become of Raider fans any more?
Anyhow, you girls stay nice and cuddled under that blanket. I’ll be here ripping the worst owner in professional sports, Al Davis, as usual. I’m sure somebody in the nation will have the courage go take me on.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
kwame harris: aside frome those who advocate complete confidence in cable to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, are there any concerns out there for the safety of the “Foundation”, NATION?
May 26th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Actually coinman while I have EXTREME concerns about the Oline, if you go back and watch the tapes from last year, the oline played better and better and better. That’s a good sign. Late in the season the offensive line played incredibly well. Sims was starting to get a little long in the tooth, Harris doesn’t have that much mileage on him, and remember, Cable did coach at Cal, altho I think he had left Cal before Harris went to Stanford.
BTW, I hear some baby crying in the background. Maybe his mom will get him some juice.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
MR Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
“Coinman, who is this MR you speak of??? I don’t even see his posts.”
……..
MR Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
……………………..Oakglenn.
MR Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Coinman, you joining Oakglenn……
*****Everyone of loser boys posts stars “ME!!!!!!!!” Sweeeeeeeet!!!!!!!
May 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
MR: i’m going to break my own rule (rules are made to be broken, i guess), MR, you sound different today. hating al davis doesn’t take a rocket scientist, it’s too easy for a pure hater. he has not seen his former success in the last years, few can deny, but he’s trying. this raider team should be greatly improved, but our lines are suspect, and great line play has always been a raider hallmark. so i challenge you: tell me what we’ve done RIGHT, and what you think we should do with team personnel after June 1. pretend (sorry) you want a successful Raider team. if you don’t answer, i’ll understand.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Don’t do it Coinman!! You’ll hate yourself in the morning!!
May 26th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Oakglenn: i think #516 is a fraud. so you really think harris has it? why? i’m asking because you seem to know your stuff.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Oakglenn and MaddenRaider-
You are both pathetic.
Call your friends and and try to have a little…
Oh, sorry.
As you were.
Go Raiders.
May 26th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
ok, perhaps my attempts to get some positive Raider discussion were “forlorn hopes”. but i’m new to blogging, and i just had to try. GO RAIDERS!!!
May 26th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Actually Coiman, and I had this discussion last year during the regular season with Raider fans, Harris would just get lambasted by the Whiner fans the second he stepped out onto the field. Personally, I am really against blasting your own guys. It doesn’t help. In other words, I think Harris will do well with a change of scenery. That happens quite often. 2ndly, while I can’t personally say Kwame Harris has it, clearly Tom Cable does, so right there are two reasons I think harris can be successful. Kwame is also big, athletic and quite smart, so we do have something to work with here.
May 26th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Oakglenn: the Raiders have been long known as the team where misplaced and unappreciated players get new lives. but, as much as i love the team, that rep has taken a beating as of late. if harris is provably big, measurably athletic, and (hopefully) smart, i’ll give him a chance. now to the d-line. what do you say here? i’ll admit: i wanted clady, or, if not, then ellis.but after reading porter (on the laughability of our play-action), i began to think that maybe mcfadden made sense after all.
May 26th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
The Nation: everyone seems to have gone to their barbeques. but i wonder: why do you lump Oakglenn and MR together? do you think they are the same person? this doesn’t seem likely to me. if so, i wouldn’t want to converse with either. but Oakglenn doesn’t seem to deserve this treatment. what say you?
May 26th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
MR: i see you have declined my challenge. that’s cool. it will be my last to you.
May 26th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
hey did u hear the rumor Al Davis was rushed to the hospital
May 26th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
dont we wish
May 26th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
coinman is right. I have always found okaglenn to be knowledgable and informed. MR is just plain stupid and dull.
May 26th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Wow. Thanks coinman and 3 trophies. I think Oakglenn has got it down too, while MR is loser boy.
May 26th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
nfl network showing the 2004 snow game. Raiders won on a blocked fg.
May 26th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Not too much going on today, on this site, so maybe it’s time for a reminder:
Mini Camp is 8 days away…
First pre-season against the winers is 74 days away on 8/8/08…
Season opener against Sharnarat and his donkeys is 105 days away, 9/8/08.
Our first win of the season is 105 days away.
The “biggest comments” date on this site is 106 days away when Raider Nation goes crazy recapping the trouncing we give the donks on Monday nite, 9/8/08.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
At 6:00 PST, this friday,..I will perform a human sacrifice on myself. While blogging. Im not kidding.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Thanks for the dates Riverside.
I certainly look forward to that nights blog!!
BTW, I still have a wicked scar from that Mt Rubidoux of yours. The cross still up there?
May 26th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Wasssssup Raider Nation?????????????????
May 26th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Wasssssup Kauffman?????????
May 26th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
I performed an abortion for Sharon Tate.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Man there sure are alot of weirdos in this place.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
No kidding John,..this is an oddball message board.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Actually Scott Peterson, John Wayne Gacy, Tex Watson Gannon2Brown are all me. Plus I have to continue to have Oakglenn in all my posts and post as him. Otherwise my life would be unfulfilled.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
MR,..quite the ego you have.
May 26th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
celtics burn! SOBs!
good night.. big day in the morning! if i get the job and right salary i may bolt up to chicago and watch dodgers/cubs tomorrow night.
CT/ILL RAIDER
May 26th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
i guess “bolt” is a curse word in this forum. i meant i might drive quickly up to chicago.
CT
May 26th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Dakota: 2-2. you must be happy regardless of who wins the east.
CT RAIDER
May 26th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
i guess it’s time to say goodnight. historical note: memorial day began as “decoration day” in the south, when people turned out to place the “stars and bars” on confedederate graves. the occupying northern soldiers were a bit irritated, and asked for a general day for civil war soldiers. the whole practice died out in the 1880’s, as it became apparent that the north had won the war and the south had won the peace. but it gained new life after WWI, when, although few Americans actually fought, many of those who came back were in terrible shape due to the horrific nature of that conflict. WWII, considered by many historians as WWI, part II, cemented this day in american culture. and yes, before you ask: MR, i have the requisite degree to offer this information. have a great day, RAIDER NATION, and don’t forget our sacred dead and our brave veterans…
May 26th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Jim(CT RAIDER): before i go, all the luck in the world tomorrow morning. i’m sure the NATION stands with you!!!
May 26th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Raiders anyone???
May 26th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
coinman: thanks for the caring. I need your number tomorrow morning. 9am ect. i guess that’s 7am west (if you’re out west). i’ll call you in time to clear your throat and represent me.
good night gentlemen.
CT RAIDER
May 26th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
i meant 9am cst (not eastern central time hahahha) I’m used to the east coast!
May 26th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Oakglenn: what say you about our prospects on the defensive line?
May 26th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
anyone (but MR, i already know your opinions, you hate us and al- how original) what think you all about our prospects on the defensive line?
May 26th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Jim (CTRaider): i’d be delighted to help represent you, but you’d have to put your number here (in this land of hate) for us to exchange details. i am in the west, but that’s all i can say in this hostile environment. i’ll be thinking of you tomorrow, and will be hoping for a RAIDER victory for you tomorrow.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Coinman, I think our defensive line is going to be the exact same as it was last year. Not good at stopping the run, and using the same scheme. Teams are going to run on us, so we’d better hope this quick strike offense works. Well, if it doesn’t, we’ll blame Kiffin anyway, right? Because of course Al Davis loaded him up with a pro bowl offense…
And, Coinman, I have no reason in the world to hate you, or anyone here. Frustrated at times? Yes. You guys take criticism of Al way too personally and it’s troubling, knowing Al hasn’t done anything for any of you. Might sound condescending, but hey, I’m a caring person. But mostly, I’m just amused at you guys.
Oh, and sorry to respond to your question even though you asked me not to. But come on, we don’t need dictators here. Everything’s up for grabs.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
539 is not me.
Oh, and Coinman, glad to see you’re not ignoring me anymore. We may disagree but you at least have the balls to respond to something you disagree with and express your opinion. We can’t say the same for Oakglenn anymore. Not to mention, he’s now posting under my name, too, as he did in post 539. It must be a stage of emasculation for him. Really sad to see. He used to really put of a fight, that Oakglenn. A feisty one. But I guess he got tired of losing. Everyone has to hang it up at some point. But not me. To quote Doc Holiday, “I’m in my prime”.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
# coinman Says:
May 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
“hating al davis doesn’t take a rocket scientist, it’s too easy for a pure hater.”
…..
Rather it’s your intention or not, what you’re really saying is that it’s easy to hate Al Davis; And I don’t mean in the cool way, like “playa hatin’”. I mean like hating, as in him being despicable.
“he has not seen his former success in the last years, few can deny, but he’s trying.”
…
Every GM who’s ever been canned has tried, Coinman. Trying isn’t good enough. To quote Jerry Glanville, “This is the NFL, which means, ‘Not For Long’”.
Unless you’re Al Davis, I guess. He’ll be here to keep the Raiders in last place forever.
“this raider team should be greatly improved,”
……
Minor improvements on offense. No improvements on defense. Our only problem, and it’s a big problem, is run stopping, and we did nothing to address it. You’re going to find out very fast this coming season that Stu was right, it was the scheme that made him look bad.
“but our lines are suspect, and great line play has always been a raider hallmark. so i challenge you: tell me what we’ve done RIGHT, and what you think we should do with team personnel after June 1. pretend (sorry) you want a successful Raider team. if you don’t answer, i’ll understand.”
….
Your definition of a fan evidently is someone who walks around with rose colored glasses thoughout the day, even when faced with a hurricane. That aint me. I deal in reality, not fantasy. I want the Raiders to succeed. The problem is that Al Davis hasn’t built a team that can succeed, so to hope for that is to hope on the hopeless. Again, not into that. If you want to go out there every Sunday convinced we’re going to win only to be dejected by 4 pm, that’s your business. I have a female coworker that always dates the wrong guys. They always break her heart. I asked her why she keeps dating these kinds of guys, and she says, “It’s the thrill of it”. Maybe Raider fans who truly believe in Al Davis have the same personality trait as she does?
May 26th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Ok, I may be changing the subject a bit but I met the Raiders 4th Rd pick, Tyvon Branch, the other day. I talked to him for about an hour before I knew who he was. Well based on our time conversing I’m convinced he has a 3rd grade education. Way to pick ‘em Al.
May 26th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
MR: i love doc holliday. his story is actually more interesting than his legend. as to the rest, it is one thing to disagree with current raider policy. in some ways, i also do. but to continually hate the raiders, this seems winer activity. ok, i’ll play. what do you think the raiders have done right, and what do you think they could do to improve themselves come june 1st? i’m approaching you as if i have no previous experience with you. (note: i thought that post 516 was a fake-not you, and i challenged you to talk real Raiders with me earlier- and i took your silence as a refusal).
May 27th, 2008 at 12:06 am
MR: i see you did answer me, but i’m a very slow typist. i wanted clady, or, if not, then ellis. i think schwiegert was purely a scapegoat. i think that what porter said about our play-action being a sad joke rang true. ok, than maybe this arkansas halfback (who i didn’t want) was a good idea if he helps give our offense some zip. what say you?
May 27th, 2008 at 12:09 am
MR: what say you, or is everyone right about your having nothing to say in a positive nature?
May 27th, 2008 at 12:26 am
allright MR, may the good lord grant you happiness in whatever universe you may find satisfaction. and to the RAIDER NATION: good night…
May 27th, 2008 at 4:26 am
Blargh!!1
May 27th, 2008 at 4:56 am
Now thats funny MR defending of all people Al Gore. There are 31,000+ scientist around the world who dispute global warming while Gore goes back to Carthage to smoke weed with his buddies. Boy we sure did need him to be president lol.
May 27th, 2008 at 5:44 am
This isn’t the place, Eyepatch but I can’t leave it, you’ll have to prove to me that”31,000+ sceintists” dispute global warming & that they don’t work for oil companies.
Are the scientists and economists who ask these questions just a fringe group, outside the scientific mainstream? Not at all. A 2003 survey of 530 climate scientists in 27 countries, conducted by Dennis Bray and Hans von Storch at the GKSS Institute of Coastal Research in Germany, found:
82 percent said global warming is happening, but only
56 percent said it’s mostly the result of human causes, and only
35 percent said models can accurately predict future climate conditions.
International report details impact of global warming
By James Kanter and Andrew C. Revkin
BRUSSELS: Earth’s climate and ecosystems are already being affected by the atmospheric buildup of smokestack and tailpipe gases that trap heat, and while curbs in emissions can limit risks, vulnerable regions must adapt to shifting weather patterns and rising seas, top climate experts said Friday.
The conclusions came in the latest report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which has tracked research on human-caused global warming since it was created under UN auspices in 1988.
Eyepatch, you also believe the Swift boat A$$h*les who have been proven liars. A simple google will disprove both of the core beliefs you have on the subjects. If you can’t talk Raider football then quit distributing disinformation because most of us educated citizens know how to google & aren’t stooopid! You probably think Bush won both elections too. Give it up.
If you don’t want to watch Gore’s film then don’t talk about it. Watch “Recount” on HBO this week & get a clue.
The worst part of this is I side with Maddenraider, YYYeEEEESSShhhh!
May 27th, 2008 at 6:01 am
RaiderTW…
lol, last remark was great =)
you forgot the copenhagen consessus… Lomborg, is the Anti-Gore, he have the same beliefs as gore, but is disagrees with the solutions gore made and the sudden clima hype, he says it would do us more good to eraticate some other problems, because that would do more for the environment than finding another fuel source…
May 27th, 2008 at 6:34 am
Oh yeah, Milicia? At least they recognize the problem & don’t even look at the proof. Eyepatch is entitled to his own opinion but he’s not entitled to his own facts. Hate Gore all you want but the US isn’t alone in these sceintific FACTS! It wouldn’t surprise me if these people don’t believe in evolution!
May 27th, 2008 at 6:51 am
Sorry, I meant Republicans don’t even look at the proof. I say do both, eraticate some other problems, because that would do more for the environment AND find another fuel source.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:57 am
I agree with you on everything, and I find the things eyepatch said very naive….
I dont hate gore, i think we needed his cartoon science to wake up the earth! but when you use double as much energy to make a non-fossil liter fuel, then they missed the, point.
If there were less poor people the C02 gasses would decline further than if US alone did something…
But as long as US won’t sign the Kyoto-agreement none the talk coming from the US has any weight… its really sad, but Gore did get most americans up to par on environment talks, it was about time, and a great job…
May 27th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Jerry Mac…
see what you have done?? we gonna talk environment untill you give us an update?
deal?? suddenly htis is the worst football site =)
May 27th, 2008 at 7:06 am
http://globalwarmingcause.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/32000-scientists-dispute-uns-global-warming-claims
Read and enjoy
May 27th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Gore would like to tax farts.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:08 am
yEAH, BUT I wouldn’t go anywhere else for Raider news on the net. It’s still the best discussion for THE RAIDERS!!!!
May 27th, 2008 at 7:09 am
TW you need to read credible sources and we don’t need a sermon to protect that pothead Gore.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:10 am
Actually Eyepatch, methane gas (cow farts) cause more global warming than cars do.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:11 am
Farts and burps don’t put holes in the atmosphere nor do cars, trucks, planes, ect.. but nuclear bombs do.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Oh yeah? How about epa.gov/climatechange?
May 27th, 2008 at 7:16 am
You would believe our government and the epa, lol get real.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:20 am
Eyepatch Says:
You would believe our government and the epa, lol get real.
–Let me guess, you believe in Bill O’Reilly & fox news?
May 27th, 2008 at 7:21 am
Cow farts put holes in the atmosphere, oh really?
May 27th, 2008 at 7:22 am
La Milicia Negra, is marijuana leagal where you are?
May 27th, 2008 at 7:22 am
I don’t need to watch the governament controlled media, I look up the stuff myself on the internet, what about you?
May 27th, 2008 at 7:24 am
There should be holes all over the world if animal gasses could do that, billions of years worth of holes.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Jerry, this was a terrible thread to begin with now you’re leaving it up here well past the expiration date!
New thread Jerry!
How about a Q & A with Al Davis ?
May 27th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Heeee, why am I not surprised my 41-10 prediction for the Broncos game caused some controversy?
May 27th, 2008 at 7:45 am
It was only because MR came back and we all know what kind of a moron he is.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:46 am
nope.. its not legal, but we used to have a pretty mellow laws about it, and the cops was not at all concerned about it, now they just confiscate it…
May 27th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Now it moved to debating taxing farts and burps or even worse limiting the population growth or actually killing people to keep the world from warming. What a scam.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:49 am
for the last 200 years we have been burning off stuff in the atmosphere and of course there will never be any trace of it anywhere…
the earth is still the nice white canvas it was when we began to handle it 1000 years ago…
this is why you guys drink water out of bottles and not from a tab from earth… yeah the earth is just doing fine =)
May 27th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Dakota - you can run but you can’t hide.
Do we have a deal or what?
Go Raiders.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:51 am
I don’t believe in evolution…at least in the current model.
http://www.expelledthemovie.com/
May 27th, 2008 at 7:56 am
You see what I have to put up with.
Wake me up when LMN grows a pair.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:59 am
I guess the heavy metals the military puts into the atmosphere to disrupt radar systems is harmless too.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:00 am
RaiderTW…
why did you ask?
May 27th, 2008 at 8:03 am
eyepatch…
it was irony… as an answer to your remark
“There are 31,000+ scientist around the world who dispute global warming”
May 27th, 2008 at 8:05 am
Jerry Mac we will continue this until you make a new thread!
LOL
…The greatest problem with global warming is the effects that follow the warming… A new Ice age!!!… we cant handle that, because we have never been more inhabitants of this globe…
May 27th, 2008 at 8:06 am
I already showed you the link, but here it is again with plenty of other links to discedit you, enjoy! Oh, but you won’t read it.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=64734
May 27th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Hey eyepatch…
Have you seen this…http://www.expelledthemovie.com/
May 27th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Yeah I checked it out and know about the Intelligent Design Theory. Here is adding more gas to the fire.
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_17772.shtml
May 27th, 2008 at 8:24 am
BP,
What deal?
May 27th, 2008 at 8:25 am
Eyepatch…
I’ve read it… most points made in the article is the points Bjørn Lomborg made before 2003 and was the point of Copenhagen Consensus, not to panic and to avoid obscure suggestions and solutions to the matter…
About the number 31K is ridiculous, its a pathetic attempt to make it count more, why not just write the 9K that mattered? we really don’t care how a scientist in life of Shakespeare feels about global warming…
I agree with you that a-bombs and the military pollutes very much but it doesn’t mean everything else doesn’t…
The fact is you can measure CO2 outlets from our (DK) production of pork from space. You can measure, when the industrial revolution started in the ice on north cap. Denmark has drilled ice up and measured the level of oxygen and CO2… exactly as the rings in wood…
May 27th, 2008 at 8:32 am
Eyepatch…
this one I think support pretty much what I think and as I get it you too, maybe… =)
dang! I cant post the url, but google Lomborg washington post…
its an article called Chill out, really good =)
May 27th, 2008 at 8:37 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
RaiderTW…
why did you ask?
Because you live so close to Amsterdam & Eyepatches’ veiw of the subject prompts me to say something since many tests have disproved some of the myths about it. Talk about a subject loaded with scams & falsehoods. So much science has proved lately makes Eyepatches’ prejudices funny.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Here’s your buddy Gore in action.
http://globalwarmingcause.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/al-gore-debates-global-warming/
May 27th, 2008 at 8:41 am
And all the scientist they referr to are from the U.S. not Copenhagen lol.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:43 am
ahhhh
no reason to go to amsterdam, if I wanted some i could get it within 20 min, no matter where you are in Copenhagen =)
the harder stuff, is another talk, i don’t know so much about that, but it is said its all over the place and the youngsters uses it more and more :/ the cops handle this a totally other way than the green stuff…
May 27th, 2008 at 8:45 am
Global warming is the issue today?
Please, someone explain to these “scientists” that we have been experiencing global warming since the last ice age ended 11,000 years ago.
Global warming = grant money and job security.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:50 am
# Eyepatch Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 8:41 am
And all the scientist they referr to are from the U.S. not Copenhagen lol.
_______________________________________________________
I don’t get your point, if you talk about the washington post article, then yeah, the point was to make awareness and right decisions, not about copenhagen, its called Copenhagen consensus because it was held here…
the panic solutions made right now is everything copenhagen consensus was against….
and a footnote… if you make an article to the US citizens it needs to have US scientist in it, because your nationalism clouds your logic… if it was a French Scientist you would think “frog-eater” or a german, “naz1 or kraut” and so on and not read the stuff through… just a silly move we need to use to make our points in the US…
May 27th, 2008 at 8:52 am
dakota…
yeah I got tired of your basketball talk, and when TW took this subject up, I joined…
Hope Jerry Mac, is aware of what he has caused…
May 27th, 2008 at 8:53 am
Eyepatch…
how many people does there live in the entire bay area??
May 27th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Does anyone know if Kwame Harris has any experience with the ZBS??
I dont think they ran it at Stanford or the Niners. Just wonering, because if not it may take him some time for him to get up to speed. JMAC may be vulnerable early in the season.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:00 am
You are way out there LMN, here is another link and there is no mention of the copenhagen conferance and all the scientist are American, what is your point?
http://www.petitionproject.org/
By the way watch Oakland beat Denver right now on the NFL network then later, The History of the Oakland Raiders.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Tay he will be up to speed by the end of training camp this isnt rocket science. If Gallery & Simms can doit..
May 27th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Harris also has the benefit of Gallery being in the system for a year to help him out. Last year Gallery & Simms were both learning on the fly together.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Anyone know if the next set of OTAs is starting today? or are we waiting for training camp now?
May 27th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Ok, back to nonsense.
Anybody else voting for Richard Nixon ?
May 27th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Eyepatch…
well you’ve lost me…
I asked you what your point was? if the things are directed to an american audience they got to use americnan scientists or it wouldn’t matter or get any attention..
I don’t think you get what the consensus was about… it was economical not environmental…. where Gore’s is only environmental and not thought through….
The Consensus was in 2004, therefore obvious not founded in 1997… The Consensus focused on the top environmental subjects at hand, and found a sound economical solution for the environmental problems so we could help more people and not just makes us self feel good….
May 27th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Raidermight,
Kiffin is just to depressed and beat down for OTA’s, he called off all scheduled workouts until he feels better about himself and the organization. I heard he put on his under armor gear and sped off in a fit of rage.
Ture story, right Jerry ?
May 27th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Sounds good to me now what does that have to do with this petition? My point is, if you scroll up, global warming is a scam to make money and gain power. Do they tax baby farts where you live yet?
May 27th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Eyepatch…
it wasn’t an attempt to say that Danish Scientist are better, not at all. But Lomborg was the first and to attack the problem with logic not panic, as Gore and others have done…
try google… “Andrew Poole world, where to begin” from 2004
May 27th, 2008 at 9:17 am
What would be so bad about global warming? NY City needs a bath:
http://triple-tri.com/ttblog/media/manhattan_global_warmingjpg.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:17 am
JEEeeeeeerrrrrryyyyyyyy!!! give us some news, pweeeeeeze
May 27th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Dakota…
the lesser percentage of salt there is in the water, the easier it will freeze…physics 101…. so it will result in a new Iceage… thats why i dont like the idea of a warmer climate… if i want some warm weather, I rather travel to it =)
May 27th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Global warming does not cause ice ages.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:28 am
New Ice Age? I could not care less, I ride one of these to work anyhow…great in the snow:
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/183500/183559NSur_w.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:28 am
Eyepatch Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Global warming does not cause ice ages.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
ice ages cause global warming…
do i get an “A” ???
and now back to our regularly scheduled pragromming…
R A I D E R S !
!
!
(kickin’ butt, name of the game…)
May 27th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Dakota,
Next thing someone will say that the Laker’s fast break contributes to global warming. Don’t these Gore freaks know that big swings in the Earth’s temp is normal?
Lakers win tonight.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Our Sun will burn out eventually too….nothing you or I or anyone else can do about it.
We are fked.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:33 am
http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/why_4_cool_periods.html#co2
Thanks letting me give a link Florida Peter. It’s exactly the opposite of global warming. More water is the bi-product of warm weather not ice lol.
May 27th, 2008 at 9:33 am
Supernova baby:
http://www.crystalinks.com/supernova1007.jpg
What a way to go!
May 27th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Or our galaxy might collide with another galaxy, and we would be toast:
http://universe.chimons.org/contents/Gcsim.jpg
Saw it on the History Channel, so it must be true, right????
May 27th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Or we might be invaded by Aliens!
http://reparent.blog.uvm.edu/images/alien_.JPG
May 27th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Or, we might blow the world up ourselves:
http://img.metblogs.com/dc/files/2008/04/nuclearbomb.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:43 am
super-volcano:
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2005/04/11/supervolcano_wideweb__430×317.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Asteroid:
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040224/040224_asteroid_vlg_3p.widec.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Someone’s god may take us out:
http://www.for-his-glory.org/Images/Jesus_hands_and_earth.JPG
May 27th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Machines:
http://www.solarnavigator.net/images/terminator_robot.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Gamma Ray Burst:
http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2003/grbtwinjet/grb.twinjet.gif
May 27th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Biological warfare:
http://www.safebiology.com/biological_warfare/biological%20warfare.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:52 am
Blackholes:
http://filipmoroz.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/black_hole.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Reversal of Earth’s magnetic field:
http://www.greatdreams.com/magnet1.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:55 am
Global disease:
http://www.nanosweb.org/patient_info/brochures/images/ThyroidEyeDisease_2.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Solar Flares:
http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/trace10.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Cubs win the World Series:
http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicago_benjy/2007_09_sports_cubs_win_nlcentral.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Earth’s core cools:
http://files.myopera.com/nielsol/blog/earth2.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Bubonic Plague:
http://nostradamus.time-loops.net/images/plague1.jpg
May 27th, 2008 at 10:04 am
welcome to Jerry McDonald’s Doomsday and Raider’s Blog…
today’s big question is “How many times will the Raiders win the Super Bowl before the earth is extinguished in a fiery, hellish storm of biblical proportions?”
tomorrow’s question (to give some people a chance to prepare): “How many times will the Raiders win the Super Bowl before the earth is rendered unfit for humans by some other castastrophe?”
let’s face it, these are the only truly important questions…
everything else is peripheral…
May 27th, 2008 at 10:04 am
and the winner is… in the red corner - DAKOTA!!!!
May 27th, 2008 at 10:05 am
That’s all I can think of….I am sure there are more ways our little island in space may come to an end.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Dakota go outside.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Dakota,
We could go out this way
http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=3878
May 27th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Mista,
No way, I am staying inside…did you see what just happened to China? Aftershocks!
May 27th, 2008 at 10:15 am
They were soaking up global warming!
May 27th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Naughty naughty!
May 27th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Any news on Oddell Thurman
May 27th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Man, this whole Kiffin wearing the Raiders logo is getting more rediculous than is Obama less American for not wearing a flag lapel pin on every suit. Who really gives a $#!t what logo they are wearing if they are helping the cause? Kiffin shows up for work he is consistant he talks to the media on the Raiders behalf. Did anyone think he may be observing and evaluating the Raiders talent form the sideline. Huh???? Wow now there is a thought. Al does not need to fire another coach. How many coaches come out in year 1 and take a team to the playoffs? Slim to none.If he has to run the whole practice than what the heck are the assistant coaches getting paid six digits for? Look if we can’t get any better football news than this, I am going to ask all football sprorts writers to start writing about lacross or arean football in the off season. THIS ARTICLE IS STUPID!!!!
May 27th, 2008 at 10:45 am
no but he should play ILB in SnB in ‘08
May 27th, 2008 at 10:50 am
How can we ever get back to the playoffs if we let a coach go every year? Why does Al keep hiring these old Raiders players to save the Raiders Nation? Lofton may be a great coach but I can’t say right now. Hey man fire Kiffin and throw Lofton in there to play follow the leader with Al Davis and think we are going to win. Art Shell tried and well…do I really need to say anymore.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Jerry, wake up and give us a topic. Doesn’t your work day start at 9:00 am.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:56 am
San Diego should have never let Lofton go, that was Turner’s decision and one that will haunt him. Kiffin made the right move by bringing him on board. As far as Al is in total control myth, you choose to follow that path with the rest of these journalist yearning for new information but instead recycle old news.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:59 am
It was nice talking to a rational mind,Milicia Negra, about a topic that Gore won a Nobel peace prize for & the rest of consensus reality recognize, thanks. I’ll talk consiracy therory with Dakota & Eyepatch, hell, I LOVE copiracy theory. Have heard the lastest one? Bush will start a war with Iran before he leaves office? But then I’m sure the rest of this blog wishes we would go to hell or at the very least SHUT THE HELL UP, and talk Raider football. I’m done.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Yeah and I remember Bush saying when he got into office he was going to finish the job on Sadam and you see what happened.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Hahahahah, which Bush?
May 27th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Have I been banned? Testing, testing, one, two, three testing.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Spurs are going down tonight…
May 27th, 2008 at 11:25 am
the raiders are joke, what kind of team employs some washed island samoan trash like Tui? this guy belongs on an island like Hawaii selling cocnonut juice on the beach? why is this 6′7” frankenstein andrew walter still on the roster, either move him to tight end or tell him to join UFC. The raiders are a joke, why are they still sharing that ugly coliseum, how come al davis hasnt built a new stadium yet? This franchise is the national punch line, its a bigger mess than the Los Angeles Clippers. The Beat writers are a bunch of jokes, they all kiss up to Al Davis so they can get scoops, they never criticize al, al is a joke he sends his old fart brother to the nfl draft to sit by the phone and pretend he has an actual job, his old fart bro looked like he needed to go to a bingo hall and drink prune juice. Also get rid of trailer trash like papa, JT the Brick, and all those black hole superfans, why does the coliseum allow all these mexican refugees into the stadium?
Michael Bush - 400 pound waste of talent
Jamarcus russell - fat albert, has a speech inpediment and sounds like a drunken sailor
michael huff - soft like a pillow
lamont jordan - fat, slow, too much pot in his system
robert gallery- wannabe pirate, looks dumb with his female loop earrings and 1980s hairband look.
lane kiffin- only got the job cuz his daddy hooked him up, and he never helped usc win anything, he was a byproduct of the great talent they have.
typical raiders fan = fat trailer trash from montana, with a bunch of meaningless tattoos, has 5 kids all named bubba and can only ford colt 40s.
new school raiders fan = mexican illegal alien named jose maria luis lipi lopez, has 12 kids, lives in a one bedroom shack in chino,califorina with 65 family members, drives a beat up 1992 ford bronco and sells oranges on the highway.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:27 am
testing cant post.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:30 am
The Nobel is now a joke. Just look up Irena Sendler and what she did for humanity and compare it with Gore and his scare-tactic movie. Somehow the Nobel was given to Gore over a person who saved countless lives.
What a shame.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Respond to a Bomb, or not respond…….
May 27th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Tui,
Whats wrong wtih a 1992 Ford Bronco? You piece of sh*t!
May 27th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Yeah, thurman would be a nice addition. I would put him on a very short leash. curfew at 8:00pm.
D testing daily. screw up once, get the F@Ck out.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Don’t get sucked in by the troll…
May 27th, 2008 at 11:40 am
SIGN ODELL THURMAN….low risk….high reward type of player!
May 27th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Jerry Mac….. The week-end is over, time to get back to work.
If you cannot come up with a subject/topic to write about, heck, just make something up. At least that will give us (your loyal readership) something to bit#h about, for another day or three.
Thanx.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Eyepatch, I agree with your last post. I still havent gotten a good reason why Lofton was let go. He had the recievers in discharger land playing well.
Thanks norv for the playbook, and the coach.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Yeh, Jerry should obey the wishes of his “loyal readership”, after being bashed by them constantly. Get real.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Anybody here J.Russ on Sirius this morning? He said all the right things but most notable was his comments in regards to Al Davis. He said that he and Al Davis talk regularly and Al told him he doesn’t have to rush into being great. He wants him to take his time and master his craft.
J.R. was asked about Kiffin’s status with the team and J.R. said he doesn’t know anything other than Lane has been great at practice and he and Lane spend as much time together as he and coach “Flip”. He said the whole Offensive coaching staff meets regularly during practices to conjure up competitve games for O vs D. J.R. says practices are fun and the winner of the competitive games gets the bigger meeting room.
He also said that McFadden is faster than he thought, but was even more impressed with his ability to take a hand off and cut up the seam.
FYI
May 27th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Sign Grady.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Eyepatch,
Kiffin brought Lofton on board? You’re hilarious.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:46 am
909,
LMAO at work you are going to get me fired.
“Just make something up” = priceless
May 27th, 2008 at 11:47 am
tui show your colors or are you ashamed to. The Raiders must have your interest or you think they are posing a threat, Thats the only reason some one would try to bash such a “lousy franchise”, so they must be on your radar or you think your team is in jeopardy. So what is it loser?
May 27th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Thats right he interviewed him and made the hire, go back to fantasy land and your Davis rubber duckey.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:48 am
J.R. also commented on his weight when asked. He currently weighs 268 and said he will only lose another 4 or 5 lbs. He said he spent all off season getting ready for a full season as he knows the job is his and that he needs to be healthy to be there for all 16 games.
He also said that one thing he learned most about last season is that they were in almost every game (with exception of two games) and that the team needs to know when to step on “the guy’s throat” to close out games.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Do you guys work for this bustedcoverage.com? It’s the dumbest website I’ve ever seen. Do you guys realize that any of you can start a blog giving half witted football opinions with candid photos of female celebrities bending over and showing their thongs? Heck, add the celeb photos and this comments section already is an Al Davis kool aid version of bustedcoverage.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:49 am
MR….#672 was just a little sarcasm.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Thec,
Some..
thing
is
coming
soon….
for
you….
May 27th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Eyepatch, sure. It was Kiffin who wanted Lofton all along. Again, they need to put you on a stage.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Fair enough. 673 was sarcasm, too.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:53 am
I am on the stage, you are responding. Kiffin got his man.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Good to hear Assassin I think Russell will take big steps this year compared to last and he has a running game to fall back on if he does struggle in a game.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Considering the level of intelligence Dakota has displayed on this blog is anyone ready to take his opinions on global warming seriously? Me neither.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:56 am
gotta run fellas, just wanted to throw in the J.Russ comments from this morning. I actually have to work today
May 27th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Eyepatch, oh, yes, you are on a stage. And you’re putting on a show. We’re in stitches. Kiffin wanted Lofton…sure.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Good I am glad to see you are admitting it.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Assasin, Good info bro. Wish I could of heard that audio…. Made my day just the same.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
What the hell is “We’re in stitches.” Must be pig latin.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Global warming is real. Free Masons secretly control the world. Bush is really a communist. Hitler’s cloned children are alive and well in Argentina. The Kyoto agreement was engineered by the Yakuza in an effort to control all energy sources in the world. World War II was an experiment in world wide mind control. The CIA has spy cams in every home in the US. The Raiders will be improved in 2008.
Only one of the above is true….
May 27th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Eyepatch, admitting to you being on a stage putting on a comedy hour. That’s all I admitted to. Again, Kiffin wanting Lofton is one of the best jokes I’ve heard in a while. Keep ‘em coming. Have anymore? Come on, tell us Kiffin wanted Rob Ryan to stay, too.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Thec… I’m sure your boss knows of this sickness we all have, called Raider Football. He or she will understand. Right?
May 27th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
TWW, what up Brother…. Good to hear from you man. I have been just mostly reading all the good, humorous, hateful, spiteful post on this blog…. allways entertaining. Hope you are doing well.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Al in 2012, I’ll add to your theories:
Jesus is coming.
The Democratic Party is actually a wing of the KGB.
We’re spreading democracy in the middle east.
The league has conspired to keep the Raiders losing the past 5 years. Al Davis is still as sharp as a whip.
Want me to keep going?
May 27th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
new post
May 27th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
He did want Ryan to stay.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
MR:
Yes, Jesus is coming some time, just don’t know when.
Yes, the Democratic Party is controlled by the KGB.
Yes, we are spreading democracy in the middle east.
Yes, there is a conspiracy against the Raiders.
No, I don’t want you to keep going.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Saddam Hussein organized the 9-11 attacks.
Barack Obama is related to Saddam Hussein.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Al in 2012, do you also believe Saddam Hussein was the true brains behind 9-11? Most rubes like you think that, as well.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
909, Dude you are killing me, people are walking by me and i am laughing so hard they are giving me that hI want in to look…..
May 27th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
jamarcus russell will be another byron leftwitch, a fat dude that only cares about soul food and kool-aid, j-russ wont lose weight, he loves his greasy fingers too much.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
new thread
May 27th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Yet another great write. Glad you see it for what it is and also called out, as elequently as you could, Peterson on his blog.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Art Shell, Bill Callahan, Norv Turner. I’m finally recovering from my heart seizure when I heard that Dennis Green might replace Kiffin as coach.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:41 am
IE: where did you hear that?
May 28th, 2008 at 11:39 am
i believe in kiffin and his offense, i think Old Al should let him do his thing and stop looking for a miracle pill to fix what he messed up… starting with letting gruden go
May 28th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Rob Ryan is the one who should be monitored heavily this year….he needs to get these guys to step it up against the run and he needs to mix up his pass rushing packages whether it be using stunts or zone blitzes alot more than he did last year. He pissed me off last year when it was obvious a 4 man front was NOT getting consistent pressure on the QB’s he didn’t even try to blitz and when he did….it was too late and the opposing offenses were ready for it. He needs to work on his blitz packages alot better….or he will be in trouble!
May 28th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
The NFL’s program that will send all NFL rookies to the Pro Football Hall of Fame starts Wednesday with the Oakland rookie crop. Inspired by 2007 inductee Michael Irvin, the NFL will send all of its rookies to the Canton, Ohio shrine this summer. The program kicks off with the Raiders.
In just a few hours, No. 4 overall pick Darren McFadden will tour the museum and eyeball the bronzed busts of Marcus Allen, Jim Brown, Walter Payton and all of the other enshrined running backs and get a feel for what it takes to succeed in the NFL.
Hall of Fame, Raiders (adding more to our group)
May 28th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
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May 29th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
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May 29th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Let Kiff do his job…you nutcases….
Rob Ryan is the one who better step it up!
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