Mandatory camp concludes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, June 5th, 2008 at 3:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Except for pesky little details such as blocking and tackling, the Raiders seemed to have gotten everything they wanted out of their mandatory minicamp, which concluded Thursday with a single practice.
Through five practrices, JaMarcus Russell looked comfortable, and most important, very efficient in establishing himself as the quarterback of the future in front of the entire roster.
Indications are Darren McFadden is an explosive addition to the backfield to go along with Justin Fargas, with Michael Bush an intriguing wild card.
Defensively, a secondary which had been repeatedly victimized over the first two days came away with a pair of red zone interceptions, one by Stanford Routt against Russell and another on a pass which bounced off wide receiver Drew Carter’s hands and into the fortunate hands of rookie Tyvon Branch _ who drew praise from the coaching staff for kneeling in the end zone rather than bringing it out.
The Raiders also rushed the passer well, although that could have something to do with the offense getting its tackles up to par _ an issue which will be dealt with in a future blog.
Quick hits from Thursday’s lone practice:
– Another tough day in terms of drops for Johnnie Lee Higgins, not that Lane Kiffin seemed to notice.
“I think Johnnie Lee had a really good camp, continues to improve throughout the offseason, get stronger, faster and more confident,” Kiffin said.
– A prime example of players understanding the value of Russell occurred when Jay Richardson broke free on a pass rush, reached over and tapped Russell’s arm, then wisely disnengaged and backed off.
It happened on a first-down play with the first team offense playing the first team defense. The offense went three plays and out, with Kalimba Edwards applying pressure on third down.
– The second team offense managed a single first down on a McFadden run in their set against the second-team defense , resulting in another Shane Lechler punt after two Andrew Walter incompletions.
– Third-team quarterback Marques Tuiasosopo guided his unit to the 9-yard line, throwing 17 yards to Justin Griffith and 17 yards to Chris McFoy, but was removed after forcing a ball into the end zone that Darrick Brown intercepted out of bounds. Walter came in, but the Raiders managed only a 22-yard field goal by Sebastian Janikowski.
– Illustrating how important the Raiders think it is for Russell to avoid errors, the most vocal praise came when he threw a ball away out of the back of the end zone, with offensive coordiantor Greg Knapp shouting “smart,” holding his hands aloft and then gesturing toward Russell.
– Lecher, after lounging for the better part of the first two days, nailed a pair of skyscraping punts and probably will not be seen again until July in Napa.
– Bush continued to excel as a receiver and look smooth and potentially powerful as a runner, but as Kiffin noted there is simply no way to know how good he is until the Raiders get to Napa. He looks closer to Earl Campbell than Nick Bell, but until he runs over a would-be tackler or displays the skill of burrowing into a hole on third-and-inches for a first down, it’s strictly guesswork.
“Michael’s obviously a big guy. Now we’ve got to figure out is he a big guy that’s a pounder,” Kiffin said. “That’s what we’ve got to see. We haven’t seen him with his pads on doing it. Just because you’re big doesn’t mean you’re a great short-yardage back. So we need to figure that out. Is this a guy a legitimate, bruising, pounding 245-pound back? We won’t know that until preseason.”
– The deflection off Carter’s hands in the end zone was a rarity through three days. The free agent has been the Raiders most impressive receiver and could move Ronald Curry to his former role as a slot receiver once he recovers from foot surgery.
“I don’t mention him sometimes because I expect him to do what he’s doing, but he’s going it every day, and I love the work ethic that he brings,” Kiffin said. “He’s just one of those guys that’s going to do everything he can to get out on that field and he’s never going to complain about anything. He’s going to play as hard as he can. He’s going to block as hard as he can. He’s going to go after every ball like it’s a game. He ends up on the ground 10 times a day because he’s practicing like it’s a game.”
Go ahead and assume Kiffin won’t mind if that quote is relayed to Curry. Two weeks ago Kiffin said he thought Curry might be ready for the mandatory camp.
– Richardson was working on his pass rush skills at right end, so much so he was called for offsides at least twice during the three-day camp. Kiffin said he is seeing progress in that area.
“I think Jay’s developing a pass rush. That’s what he lacked last year,” Kiffin said. “He played the run very well for us and has continued to improve on that. The pass rushing and the third-down part of it, he didn’t leave him out very much because of that last year. We’re giving him a shot to take that. Again, we’re not going to rotate just to rotate. If we can find a guy that does both, we’ll leave that guy in there whole time. Jay knows that’s where he needs to improve to play more.”
– Napoleon Kaufman, probably the only Raiders running back since the club returned to Oakland in 1995 who could match McFadden stride for stride, was at practice Thursday.
“ I appreciate his speed and his elusiveness, his versatility,” Kaufman said. “He seems to be an athlete that not only is going to contribute in the running game but also in the passing game. So, there’s great potential with this young man. I’m excited to watch him this year.”
When asked if McFadden reminded him of himself, Kaufman said, “It’s interesting talk, but we’re kind of different kind of backs. We’re really different in a lot of ways. He’s a little bit more physical than I probably was. He’s a bigger guy.”
Kaufman, considerasbly more slim than in playing days, is the senior pastor and founder of “The Well” in Dublin and said he really doesn’t miss playing.
“Actually, because I really love what I’m doing, I hate to say it was just easy, but it was a great transition for me,” Kaufman said. “I’m just enjoying what I’m doing now more than what I can really express . . . I don’t want any big guys jumping on me any more. I like to watch and enjoy that.”
– Arman Shields missed his fourth consecutive practice with a hamstring pull. Fullback Oren O’Neal, who sustained a leg injury Wednesday in the second session, did not practice _ once again giving all the work in team sessions to Griffith. Adimchiobe Echemandu stepped in at fullback in a few seven-on-seven drills.
– The Raiders have Tuesday-Wednesday Thursday organized team activity sessions for the next two weeks. Kiffin said he expects “95 to 97 percent” attendance.
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June 5th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
last
June 5th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Hey
June 5th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
lakerslakerslakers
June 5th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
hello all
June 5th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Nice to hear from Kaufman…
Christian and a class act all the way!
June 5th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
How do you guys get links to post?
June 5th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
So far, so bad!
June 5th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
K-rock:
You have to register to the site and then you can post links.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Maybe I will break the trend of the “1st” thing with what I posted at the top. LOL. Anyway, I still don’t know exactly what to make of these camp updates, they’re sort of bitter/sweet, but it serves the fix I was looking for anyway
June 5th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Anyone wondering why so few NFL cuts after June 1st?
June 5th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Oops I’m back for a minute. The Ram’s just claimed Gradkowski. The Bears and Raiders also put in claims but St Louis got him due to 2007 record. PFT.
Good Night!
June 5th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Gatorader Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Anyone wondering why so few NFL cuts after June 1st?
_____________________________________________________
Everyone has cap room, no need to cut decent players…only players that are injured or suck (Lamont Jordan).
June 5th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
hey raider o wassup raider brother
June 5th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Was Kiffin wearing Raiders gear today? The world will end if he wasn’t…
June 5th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Oh well. Let the long hard slog until training camp begins. Also, I wonder what the mysterious pending transaction Kiffin was referring to will end up being?
June 5th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
err…I mean ‘begin’
June 5th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
…the Raiders cutting LaMont?
June 5th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Anyone know the actual date training camp starts? Not a speculation of “First of July” I want an actual date.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
how do i register?
June 5th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
The Raiders tried to claim Gradkowski. What do you think that meant?
June 5th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Sucks that Arman Sheilds has been injured i thought he was goin to be a threat. He now has to get his act togther if hes goin to make the cut. Its completely ridiculous the amount of money we are paying out for Kelly, Warren and Sands. Kelly has potential but has not done enough to warrent the money and Sands and Warren are below average. 1 of them should be cut for a veteran like Jackson or Coleman who will stuff the run this season then we can properly address the DT position next year. Its not like Warren or Sands is the long term fix to 1 of the worst run-Ds
BUT
offensively we seem pretty sound for a good while and in the secondary so the potential in the team is insane just need to add a couple of old school run stoppers and experience
June 5th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
That means Tui STILL SUCKS!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Spawn,
I was waiting for my fix, but I still need more.
Jerry thats all you have for today???
June 5th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Not sure when training camp starts….. maybe first of july
June 5th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I think Kiffin was referring to cutting that QB from Portland State. Maybe he thought they would pick up Gradkowski.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Rod Coleman?
June 5th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Sign Grady.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
With Kiffin a guy like Walker isn’t a lock to start just because of his name but if he does…
Carter is making a strong push for #2.
The team seems to be giving JLH every chance to beat out Curry and the rookies.
Given Walker and Curry’s injury histories, I could see the team carry 6 WRs. BUT Why not let DMAC line up out there if you need a body?
Flanker - Walker, JLH
Split End - Carter, Curry
Slot (3 WR) - Curry
Shields is working (or not working) his way out of a shot. Who gets #5? Hmmm.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I noticied Kiffin appears to be growing a Goatee, he must be feuding with Al since he is growing facial hair. Him and Al aren’t getting along that is the reason for the Goatee. I can’t believe this, why wont Al just leave him alone and let him shave.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
I like schilens to make the roster.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Dakota Killa #99 Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I imagine The Wiz was that guy that everybody hated, unless he was on your team. Kind of like Romo. I despised that man until he donned the Silver and Black. Then I opened my eyes to his tenacity and importance to a defense. I always knew he was good but I never gave him a chance until he was a Raider.
Steve Wisniewski was an Offensive Gaurd for the Raiders who played 12 NFL seasons and was named to the Pro Bowl 7 times. …
was an o loine man killa you dont know ur sh#@
June 5th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
I think either Walter or Tui wll be gone by the start of the season. Neither is a great replacement or advisor for JR.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
GRADY TRAIN!!
June 5th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
or the reserves.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
The Fakers are going down like Dakota on a Donkey.
Go Raiders.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Is it just me or is Jeanette Thompson FRIGGIN ANNOYING!!
June 5th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Bush is the man and im starting to feel better about McFadden im realy curious 2 c how he takes a hit tho…..909 c u were right for the most part
June 5th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
How is Bush the man? He hasn’t played a single down in the NFL 408.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
walter has some trade value but tui can be cut.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
chaz schilens is from lancaster you know that
June 5th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Bush has potential.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I know he went to SDSU, I live in SD.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Who gives a rats arse where you live Raider O.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Einstein,
Camp begins on July 25th!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
will there not discussin about fargas either there just talkin about DMC
June 5th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
thx LosT
June 5th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
J-Mac,
You didn’t mention that Kiffin wore a t-shirt with a Raider logo on it the other day…
June 5th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
when is the first pre-season game….2 weeks after camp opens?
June 5th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
First pre-season game is August 8th!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Kiffin whore a t-shirt with a Raider logo? Wow, too bad he is growing a Goatee, that simply has to mean he and AL are feuding. I wish Al would just let him shave it.
June 5th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Against the whiners…
June 5th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Kiffin wore a 49ers t-shirt? wtf
June 5th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
who gives a damn we have a team that could be a good team
June 5th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
seems kinda soon to have there first game….i would think 3 weeks of camp would be more suitable than 2.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
we have a team that could be a good team?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
COW,
I think Shields will be on the practice squad…he doesn’t have time to make an impact at this point (in my opinion)
June 5th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Kiffin is smart to give an unknown quantity like Higgins the opportunity to prove himself by getting lots of reps. If back-ups and rookies stand around in practice watching the starters get most of the reps, how do they ever find out what they’ve got and how do the players develop.
On a basketball, team all the players get lots of practice time. In football, you read about the backups doing “mental reps” while the starters get the bulk of the practice time. Can’t they find the time for the back-ups and rookies? Extra sessions for them maybe?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Throw it away, checkdown, Sebastian Janokowski field goal try.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
and Janokowski misses….
June 5th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
NEW POST, wow, that was quick
June 5th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
this cracks me up ( During one drill, with cornerback DeAngelo Hall covering Schilens, a pass went out of bounds and to a nearby fence. As Schilens began to trot back to his position group, Hall snapped, “Hey, 82, get the ball!” Schilens, a rookie, listened to the veteran and retrieved the football.) lmao
June 5th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
what’s so funny about it? Go get the ball Spawn
June 5th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
You know O I am starting to think Walter is losing more trade value everyday
June 5th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
It wasn’t meant to be funny. Hall was teaching him to hustle at all times. The ball is gold, gold is the ball, catch the golden ballz.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
When did Walter ever have trade value?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Last year whe nyou could blame it all on Art
June 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
What time does the Napa bus run?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Einstein Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
How is Bush the man? He hasn’t played a single down in the NFL 408.
do rur ruining my kool aid! WTH I got a good feeling about the guy thats all……man police..jk
June 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
nutz, balls, hustle, gettin you turned on Spawn….. This is football mang, leave yo fetishes out..
June 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Einstien = MR = DAKOTA KILLA
agian you are not relevent and have no clue!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
And the BREAKFAST!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
El,
when pre season starts, his trade value will change due to his play, but for now its the same. IMO.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Kiffin is growing a goatee, and a second chin!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
408 - I feel ya dawg..
June 5th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Oaklifer - nope, I am me, and have always been me, I am the one and only, no trollin here mang.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
I can see what your saying I just think his Vision sucks
June 5th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
mang?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
So what up O saw you getting a hard time last night
June 5th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
it’s beyone you Quagired’d….. It’s a G thang … aint nuthin but…. fo shizzle
June 5th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
well einstein i heard you like balls so much i think u wanted my nuts
June 5th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
lol…is that so.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
let it go Spawn, we all know how you roll, no need to try and prove different…
June 5th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
sorry if thats tru my bad raiders for life bro!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Sounds like Kiffin is trying to type cast Mike Bush, instead of letting him do what he do.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
I heard from and insiders insider that if Kiffin shaves his goatee he will be fired.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
ya man, some guy wants us to cut Jano for a 38yr old drunk kicker, who has not played in the last 2 years, and then he calls me a Moron.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Einstein-
After cutting Gradkowski, Gruden is probably in the market for another QB. Can’t have too many, you know. Besides, you know he’d just love to turn Al Davis’ chosen one into a productive TB QB.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Gatorader -
Nah, Walter doesn’t fit Chucky’s system. Just like he doesn’t fit ours..
June 5th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Lane Kiffin = KC Armstrong
June 5th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Oaklifer Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
“Dakota Killa #99 Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I imagine The Wiz was that guy that everybody hated, unless he was on your team. Kind of like Romo. I despised that man until he donned the Silver and Black. Then I opened my eyes to his tenacity and importance to a defense. I always knew he was good but I never gave him a chance until he was a Raider.
Steve Wisniewski was an Offensive Gaurd for the Raiders who played 12 NFL seasons and was named to the Pro Bowl 7 times. …
was an o loine man killa you dont know ur sh#@”
Hey Dumba$$ -
Learn to read someone’s post. I said that they were similar in that both guys were players that you love to hate. Use your brain young man. I was watching the Wiz wear that old #76 blocking fools into the dirt while you were swimming around in your daddy’s sack. Learn about it numbskull.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Wickett, i said the same thing last year when we hired him, but nobody got it…lol.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Quagmire’d Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
mang?
thats how we say man in the bay
June 5th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Oaklifer is clearly a 49er fan. Selling wolf tickets about something he knows nothing about. Grow up son.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I know I was reading that guys an idiot at the end of the day Jano is still above average just is NOT MY FAVORITE
June 5th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I’m bored, Bye!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Great write up as always, Jerry.
http://mvn.com/nfl-raiders/
Sounds like it was a productive camp.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
NFL Netwerk doing there 32 days 32 teams right now!!!! hurry up its on the 49ers yalll yaaaaa!!!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Raider O -
some of these young kids on here pretend to know what they are talking about until they are proven wrong, then they rely on insults instead of admitting that they are wrong.
damn youngens need to learn about it
June 5th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
post#97 is why Oaklifer isn’t posting right now.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
The resemblance is striking…I hope AD has another press conference soon, so we can hear him mangle his coach’s name again. Maybe another hybrid name again, as in: “When I hired Lance Bruden…”
June 5th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Ha ya winers fan original DK I did read your post wrong my bad i always skim read trolls i usally dont respond again my bad MR i mean no harm!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Does anyone know if Michael Bush able to practice with the team last year. For the most part he hasnt had contact with pads in years. Thats going to be interesting.
Hopefully its like riding a bike.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I’m young and a GENIUES ( did I mispell that?)
June 5th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
If the raiders or any team wanna cut a player to bring another in, you would think they want someone who is better or cost less, but to replace a 30yr drunk for a 38 yr drunk who has not played in 2 years is insane.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Do you all need my help over there in Oakland? Just send old man Parcells Lamont Jordan and a 2nd round pick in 2009 and I join the Nation.
Just thought you guys should know…
June 5th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Oaklifer -
Good for you for admitting your mistake, much respect. But you are wrong I am not MR. I effing HATE MR. Got it? I am an Oakglenn fan.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Jerry,
I surely hope Drew Carter WILL move Curry to the slot, absolutely.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Im here and i admit i read your post wrong but i would be willing to bet my knowledge of the game and our beloved raiders far exceeds yours!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I hear ya! I was laughing
June 5th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
408, i’m familiar with the lingo….just never seen it spelled like that.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I dont see how Taylor can help our defense? we were 31st against the run, and he is a speed rusher!! I dont get it.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Cool if your not MR hes a bag and thanks for the props i read your sh@t wrong much love bro nation 4life!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
OK Oaklifer if that helps you sleep at night.
Youth doesn’t always mean lack of intelligence, but it always equates to lack of experience.
El Dirty knows more than you and I am willing to bet my Hot Wheels collection on it.
Now do you see how childish you sound bro?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Dakota Killa #99 Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Oaklifer -
Good for you for admitting your mistake, much respect. But you are wrong I am not MR. I effing HATE MR. Got it? I am an Oakglenn fan.
dude didnt we cover this already?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Hey Pickel - Enough with the all Lakers crap. This is a Raiders board. Why don’t you and that Dakota dude go find an NBA board and bash each other there. And while your at, clean up the your language. It’s offensive and moronic. If you can’t post without then you need to grow up and stop playing with your parents computer…
June 5th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Oaklifer we are behind in our responses bro. One minute props, the next venom. Its all good.
One Nation
June 5th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
he is fast and can chase from behind, but he is 33 and we are a young team that needs to grow together than have a player play for 1 year and retire. IMO.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
I didn’t say I was a need. I am the big splash signing that Al Davis loves. Plus wouldn’t you trade me for Lamont in a minute?! Der.
I’m just saying. Remember that I said this.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Why is my name being thrown out there? I probably know more than most of you! And I’m willing to bet all my girls (in California) (not letting go of the Vegas honeys)
June 5th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Jason taylor= sims rapist
June 5th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Dakota Killa #99 Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Oaklifer -
Good for you for admitting your mistake, much respect. But you are wrong I am not MR. I effing HATE MR. Got it? I am an Oakglenn fan.
………………………………………….
How original, Dakota Killa, are you so lame you cant pick an original blog name..you copy another blogger here..you are MR original
June 5th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Taylor would only have value for his leadership - like Trace Armstrong a few seasons ago. I would rather see Grady or Coleman back. We also need to get Aso in camp and sign burgess to an extension.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Nice Pickel. Real class act you are… You reading ths Jerry?
June 5th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
I would do the trade. Really it would still benefit to help the young bucs. Situational pass rusher on 3rd downs.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
GIRLS now were talkin.. hahaha one nation is right we all family hate it or love it!!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Jerry can’t save you.
You little B!TCH.
Go Raiders.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
dude are u snitchin op pickel?
he Taylor cost 2 much. Sign Nnamdi and McFadden
June 5th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Like I said, real class… Put away the crack pipe Bill. I never actually cared much but now I hope the lakers win just so you can come back with your tail between your short legs.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
BP
the celts cant save you, will you be back later here crying as usual..or will you blame the refs..lets see what you do..dirt bag
June 5th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Word Oak! Pickel your wierding me out man take a Zanny
June 5th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
trade Lamont for taylor yes, but not a 2n rd pick. NO way he is not worth it a 4th maybe.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Word Oak!
We shall see, B!TCHES.
Go Celtics.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
AAh my bad forgot the second was in there. (Duh) No I would only do it straight up lol
June 5th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
BP
will you cry later..or cry right now..whatever crybaby
June 5th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
and isnt taylor due 8 mil this year? we cant take that cap hit.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
The idea of trading Lamont Jordon is science fiction.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Stork - I don’t know what you’re talking about.
I have never cried about the Celtics here or anywhere else.
Nothing to cry about. They dominated the entire NBA this year. You must have me confused with someone else.
The only person who will be crying tonight is that sodomite KOBEEEEEEEEE.
Go Celtics.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Bill Pickel Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Stork - I don’t know what you’re talking about.
I have never cried about the Celtics here or anywhere else.
Nothing to cry about. They dominated the entire NBA this year. You must have me confused with someone else.
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Yeah they dominated the Hawks!!! to a seven game series..and the next series went seven games..and the pistons went six..thats domination..your are a baby..just cry now..instead of later
June 5th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I can’t wait until camp and preseason,then I hope McFadden disproves all the negative analysts who state he won’t be a good back between the tackles, recently all that has been spoken of is his speed to the corner and his ability to leave most LBS covering him in routes. If he displays elusiveness and power running the ball up the middle when the hitting begins I will jump for joy but if he starts getting hit and drops immediately I will be slightly worried.
June 5th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I can’t wait until camp and preseason,then I hope McFadden disproves all the negative analysts who state he won’t be a good back between the tackles, recently all that has been spoken of is his speed to the corner and his ability to leave most LBS covering him in routes. If he displays elusiveness and power running the ball up the middle when the hitting begins I will jump for joy but if he starts getting hit and drops immediately I will be slightly worried.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Stork - Just Win Baby.
Go Celtics.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Bill Pickel-just cry baby!
June 5th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Jerry Mac…. Great work, you have been on a very good roll as of late. Keep it going.
I’am going to give you a hall pass, just this once, for being 9minutes late with this post. You made that up with the quality of your work. thus far.
But you had myself along w/ 408 and many other NATION brothers getting concerned that you had gone to Denny’s first, instead of getting you post in on time.
All is forgiven.
Be on time
Pay attention
And play like hell on Sunday.
John Madden.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Stork - You’re very clever.
You SMELL like Oakglenn.
Go Celtics.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Bill Pickel Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Dakota - You’re very clever.
You SMELL like Fire Kiffin.
……………………………
LAKERS IN FOUR!!!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Just another opinion on Michael Bush. There have been comments, even from Kiffen himself, that he has the size, the body movement, the ability to catch passes, but that until he puts on the pads and he attacks those lineman…that’s he’s still an unknown quantity. TRUE to a point, but there are “two-freaking-factors” that we just can’t toss “like a fart in the wind.” (that’s from the Shawshank Redemption, one of my top 10 movies of all times.) Those two factors are:
1. The foundation for running over defenders is in his history in college where he ran over and around and thru defenders. At the start of 2006 he was picked as a top five Heisman Trophy winner. Sure, the NFL is a big step upwards, but nevertheless, most of your “top college players” are able to carry those same abilities forward. Bush should be no exception.
2. In the case of Michael Bush, I believe that his learning curve will stay on an upward trend. Whatever we see from him, just double or triple it. Why, because he hasn’t really played for two “freaking” years. So, he’s just going to get better and better every week. He’ll be punishing those linebackers, he’ll be driving thru and over those linemen, he’ll be a beast. After the “bye-week,” forget it. He’ll be our “cinch-domino” when we need that third and one, third and two or third and three. We saw it in college and we’ll see it here. Al “freaking-Davis” made the steal of the draft when he took Bush @ number 100. It reminds me of when Al drafted Bo Jackson.
Go Raiders…Go Lakers (tonite will be a real tough game. Celtics at home are madmen.)
Anyway, those our my thoughts for what there worth. I’ll take the heat if I’m wrong. I’ve already put my butt on the line by claiming 11-5 minimum, and very possible 12-4 or 13-3.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
No worrys Laker fans. Jack made the roadie, has his frrooont row seat.
Word around the camfire is, they fleeced him for 75K for the ticket.
Go Lakers.
Pickel, GFYS for now…
June 5th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
*worries* DOHH..
June 5th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
It would make more sense to have Carter and Walker on the outside because of their speed. I think Curry would be more effective as the slot receiver. No doubt.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
909 -gfYs.
Jack is Whack.
Go Celtics.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
RR,
I gree with you, usually great RB at college become good and sometimes great RBs in the NFL. it is the one position that they can come to the Nfl and play well, like Addai, marsh, Peterson,R brown, and others.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Plus Bush was suppose to be a 1st round pick, before the leg injury.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Pickell… LOL, It’s all good, going to be a great series.
Checking out. ice COLD beer and LAKER game time.
Take care, all
p.s. even you Bill P. as well.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Bush will be a monster! He is the 2nd coming of crocket just 5 times better!
June 5th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Mad Dork
You are a primitive throwback. Meaning no brains and not worth the time or effort.
Grow up son.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Bush has great feet for someone his size and he has speed, he reminds me of Bettis and Jamal.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
The Lakers in 4 bitches! Eat me all of you Raider fans! It’s all about a Laker sweep right now and I can talk about whatever the hell I want.
DK#99 I know that you are MR, just admit it.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Hi old friends,…havent been in here for a while,…was however at the mini yesterday,..Jerry can vouch if he feels like it,…I was wearin my McFadden jersey,..white cowboy hat,…hangin with Mike Taylor…hey we wear cowboy hats up here in Old Hangtown,..Placerville to you flatlanders…Russell looks awesome,..so does McFadden…saw the Boss talkin with Kiffin from a distance,..also saw Kiffin and Ryan laughing together,..all seems fine to me…despite what “sportswriters” say…got really wasted at Rickys last night,..some legends were there,..Vella,…Hubbard…had a good time,…the West is ours this season,…book that.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Celtics in 5
De-fense!!
De-fense!!
De-fense!!
De-fense!!
Go Big Green
Celtics baby! Yes!
June 5th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
i agree with Mad Stork..all of it!!
June 5th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Make that nine times better!
June 5th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Alameda,
what about our DEFENSE, what can you tell us?
June 5th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
stfu Mad Stork #2, damn troll
June 5th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Oh wait you agreed with me. I like you
June 5th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
C”MON Alameda share with your brothers that couldn’t be there, dont leave anything out.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Ok master stork
June 5th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Future Glory - Right now the offense is not looking as good as the defense save the defensive secondary…but we know that is actually the strength of the team. However, there are still a lot of interceptions w/o Aso. Right now it would appear the Raiders made good decisions on their defensive signings. I think you should be concerned as I am about the OL and the health of Walker.
As far as I can tell McFadden has been the only back that has explosive runs…and he will likely do that against any defense.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Ok,…Deangelo H
June 5th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Sorry,..ok, Deangelo Hall is without a doubt going to be the leader of the D,…hes real vocal,..all other players seem to look at him as the leader on D,…Sands seems to be really motivated,..not sold on him though,..he stepped it up when Davis was there….but Warren looked great…all did really, Edwards looks awesome…but just a mini,..I will be at one practice in Napa,…anyway, as far as the D goes,…Hall the leader,..and the D will be way better then last year.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
ALA
YOUR THE INSIDE NORCOS DUDE..RIGHT..WHY DIDNT YOU TALK TO DAVIS..IF YOU HAVE A INSIDE CONTACT FOOL
June 5th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
THX man. so is minicamp open to the public?
June 5th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
ALA
THAT INFO WAS POSTED ALL OVER THE NEWS..MAN YOU ARE JUST A FAKER
June 5th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
ALA
PLACERVILLE ALSO SUCKS
June 5th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Alameda Inside, post 158 & 169:
Good post…thanks for sharing the insights from your visit…lends a lot of confidence in our team.
Go Raiders.
June 5th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
WHO IS POSTING UNDER MY NAME!!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
OK time to go, I think i will go to get greek food. see you guys later.
June 5th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Post 161 is not me! I feel violated!
June 5th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
O MONGOLIAN BBQ IS BETTER
June 5th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Davis was on other side of fields,…clearly it would be a mistake to roll up on him and start talking to him,…I was there for about 45 minutes,…Stork, Im happy you dislike Placerville, we wouldnt want you here even for a visit. Stay away.
June 5th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
GO GREEN!
June 5th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Mad Stork #2-stfu
June 5th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
lol I live in SD all the women are great! The best is they are mostly Charger fans and they wear my jersey’s! I take Fairweather to a whole new level
June 5th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
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June 5th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
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June 5th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
i’m not a pro hoops fan,but due to the fact some of you have tried to turn this into a laker site i say go CELTICS.but whoever wins i hope it only goes 4 games so us FOOTBALL fans won’t have to read you’re bs anymore.
June 5th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Training camp is supposed to start 26 July.
June 5th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
btw,why don’t you people take your hoop talk to a hoop site instead of boring us football fans with your garbage.i’d rather read Oak VS MR than read about who will win the nba title.besides,why not just ask the officials who is going to win because the players have very little say.oh wait,the league hero,rapist kobe will probably prevail.
June 5th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Celtics baby!
June 5th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
Lefty 12
they been @ it all day!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
they’ve been at it for days and they are ruining this site.but they could care less.typical modern thinking-this is what i want-screw everyone else!
June 5th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
i guess what it really boils down to is when it comes to football they don’t know squat so they have to change the subject,or just make jokes.
June 5th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
I kinda dig the jokes but all the bball talk is tarded IMO!
BUSH will be the man i can feel it!
June 5th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
i wonder if he’ll(bush)get a legit opportunity now with DM?i sure hope so because i think he is the real deal.
June 5th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Lefty 12…
You talk about everyone else being selfish, but you are the one crying because everything is not the way YOU WANT it.
Just skip the post you don’t like.
June 5th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Look out for the 3 headed beast bush will be the short yardage/goal line guy i think!!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
AI, what up bro? your post are nice adds to the write up.
Thanks
June 5th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Fakers fall in game 1.
Celtics take 2 at home, steal 1 in LA and end it in game 6.
June 5th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Kobe fuking sucks ballz…what a choke job. Odom…where the fk are you? Gasol…guit shooting 16 ft jumpers.
Fuking pussies.
Celtics in 5.
fuk
June 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
okay, I am better now…lakers in 6.
June 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
OK time for all of the Laker fans break out all of the excuses.
Nevermind that the Lakers got all the calls, and they even tried to take out one of the Celtics stars and that didn’t work.
Nevermind that the Lakers got beat by the better team. The Lakers got BEAT!!!!!
Dakota was even talking sweep earlier today. There is still a chance of a sweep…for the Celtics! I expect that Dakota will man up.
Thats what I’m talking about baby. The capper is that I just won some cerious coin on this game. Everybody took my bait. Like taking candy from a baby! Mo money mo money. Sorry Raider4life.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Damn Dakota, everything will be ok
June 5th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Dakota….
No worries dude….
I knew they were going to split games in Boston. They will come back 1-1.
Guaranteed!!!
Lakers in 6!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Funny..
How everyone comes out and admits betting on the C’s after the fact!!!
Get a life!!
You WON SQUAT!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
I am laughing all the way to the bank son. I don’t give a sh*t if you believe me or not. I’m paid baby!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Raider Glory -
Go cry somewhere else you effing baby! Whaaaa whaaaa
June 5th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
You probably bet a coke with someone at work!!!
STOP lieing!!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Dakota
sucks ur guys went down in game . Good man showin up to represent tho!
Where the rest u laker fans @
June 5th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
I don’t gamble, but I did laugh.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
game 1
June 5th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
It’s only one game guys!!!
This is a 7 game series!!!
Go Lakers!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
The Lakers were too busy reading their press clippings to play tonight. The Celtics wanted it more. Atlanta played the Cs tougher than the Lakers.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Laker fans are pretenders. They can dish it out but they can’t take it. Talk soooo much smack then are no where to be found when things don’t go their way. Dakota is the exception to the rule.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
“Atlanta played the Cs tougher than the Lakers.”
quote of the day
June 5th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Dakota killa sounds like a Patsy fan!!!
Go patsies right MORON???
June 5th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Whaaaaa whaaaaa
I’m a Raiders fan BITCH!!!!!
whaaaaa whaaaaa
stop crying Raider Glory
June 5th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
ha ha aha aha
Your’e a patsy fan in DRAG!!!
Go for your’e patsies ass wipe!!
Go Lakers!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I’m a moron because the Lakers got beat down? Who’s the moron? Typical dumba$$ Laker fan.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Grow up son, you have a lot to learn little man.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
A lot of crying going on around here due to a few NBA comments about the Lakers & celtics. Hey, it’s the nature of the beast. They’re always going to be side comments, that’s life. Sometimes, religion (I’ve seen a lot of that). Sometimes, politics (I’ve seen a lot of that). Sometimes, women (Should have said “hot women” I’ve seen that). Sometimes, Food & places to eat (I’ve seen that).ditto, ditto, ditto, etc. etc. etc………….
I haven’t seen a “monitor-policeman” on here restricting us to “JUST FOOTBALL TALK.” So, if you get a little upset over side comments: that’s just life, no biggie, nothing to cry over…just take a chill pill.
Some of the “best, informative & interesting” post here have been by the same people who make a side comment now and then. Overall, we still talk, breath and live RAIDER FOOTBALL. GO RAIDERS.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Kobe goes right on every single play. Pretty easy to defend.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Lakers will come back and WIN game 2…..
But i’m sure you stupid Boston piece of crap will not have the nerve to show your’e self!!
Little Jack ass!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
You know what???
Your’e right Riverside!!!
Screw Basketball!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Raider Glory you need to be like your boy Kobe and mature a little bit.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Kirk is a damn genius. Props bro.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
How bout dem Flakers!!!!!!!!! (pfaaaaaart)
June 5th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Raiders in five!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I ain’t going anywhere son. It will be the Laker fans that continue to disapear as the Lakers continue to lose.
I plan on making more scratch off any sucker that wants to take the Lakers again. I won 2 bets on sweep predictions alone. Easy money.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
I knew I liked you Oakglenn
welcome back
June 5th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
It was so obvious on Kobe. The Cs played him to his right, and that’s the way he went every time. The Lakers couldn’t even cover Sam Cassell!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
wheres MR havent seen him all day this place aint the same without our troll
June 5th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
408RAIDER Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
BUSH will be the man i can feel it!
Looks like you joined up with the true believers 408!!! Add Mike to Dmac and you have the unstoppable running attack!!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Kirk is on fire
notice not one person is refuting what you are saying!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
408 just read Koolkells posts. He’s usurped KK. Sad but true.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
The other best sport besides football is hockey…… B-ball is for girls.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Who do you fans think our 3 top receivers are this year?
June 5th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Lakers blow, Raiders for life
and I’m out…
June 5th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Man I hate basketball GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Nuf said
June 5th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Oakglen
I’ve been on the bush wagon since we drafted him also DK#99 is your biggest fan!
June 5th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Raiders top three receivers
Drew Carter, Darren McFadden, and Zack Miller.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Ice Assassin, post 236:
Obviously, our 2nd year man, Zack Miller. The more JR learns to read the defensive sets and blitz packages coming at him, the more he’ll be going to Zack. After Zack, it looks like a healthy Drew Carter, who has been developing a great relationship with JR. For the third top receiver, I’ll say Darren MaFadden out of the back field. Honorable mention: Michael Bush.
Extra note: Javon may have the longest average per catch, if he stays healthy and JLH needs to learn how to hold on to the ball. What’s your take Assassin?
June 5th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
KIrk McFadden is a HB with great hands And Miller is our TE. What about the WR postion Carter is one of the FA I was glade we picked up but as far as our other WR spots who do you think will use?
June 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Riverside Raiders Fan Drew Carter is the one that has the best chance for a starter and Curry if a key third down receiver but the other spot is open. The money we spent for walker I hope he works out.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Strictly wideouts: Carter, Walker & Curry. Of course, Walker and Curry have to get healthy and stay that way.
In regard to our other wideouts, they all need experience and they’ll get just some minimum work. The exception to that could be Johnnie Lee Higgins, if he can start holding on to the ball. Kiffen says he’s faster and stronger, he just needs to focus and “just do it baby.”
Last year, JLH looked like a scared rabbit in the road when a car is coming at 80 miles and hour and the high beems are blinding him.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Ice Assassin, I don’t know about the wide receivers. All those rookies…… and Javon Walker is definitely a question mark.
June 5th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Well I see OakGlenn and all his split personalities have chimed in..
June 5th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
KIrk I hope we can find that some of them may make good WR and I hope they can show us that this year. We will have to wait and see if they can.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Ice Assassin:
You’re so right on about Javon Walker. We paid him some big money. If he can come back 100% and if he plays like he did in Green bay, he can be a big contributor. Javon did say that he like the big strong arm of Jamarcus and that his power reminds him of Brett Farve. I like to think positive when it comes to the Raiders (except for Seabass, I have a negative thing for him). So I really believe that Walker wants to come back at 100%, that he wants to contribute BIG TIME and that he wants to show all the “doubters” that he can still do it. For us, it could help us BIG TIME and the “dude” can take it to the top level, when he wants and when he’s healthy.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Riverside Raiders Fan Javon need to step up and be a big time contributer for the money he is being paid. If he can I have a very good feeling for this year. If he can’t we need the younger players to step up.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Ice Assassin:
Ya, if Walker can’t for some reason, then you’re right, someone has to step up. In that case, I say JLH has the best potential, lots of speed and he performed big time in college. I remember him in training camp last year. He was being interviewed by Jeanette and he told her: “I was trained in college that you have to catch the ball, if you don’t it’s your fault and not the QB’s. He said, if the QB throws the ball up in the stands, you as a receiver have to go up in the stands and catch that ball. When I heard him talk that “sh&t,” I said, wow, this guy is going to be great.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
408RAIDER Says:
June 5th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Oakglen
I’ve been on the bush wagon since we drafted him also DK#99 is your biggest fan!
Thanks 99!! Looks like MistaClown one of the dumbest posters on the planet is back. Good to know Clown that you read all of Maddenlosers posts. Only you and he accuse me of posting under different names. Enuff said.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Hey All. The WR guy to watch is Todd Watkins. Watkins could turn into to something. Something good.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Riverside Raiders Fan yes he has great potential and he can be great if he can hold on to the ball. If the reports from mini camp are true he has improved over last years stats that wear not all that great but he did not have a lot of chances. We will have to see.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Mistabrain cell has only one cell left.. so leave him alone.. he still thinks he got over on some guy here because he can count 3 extra blitzes in the bowl.. mista brain cell grab your vino and go in a corner and tell urself how great u are.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Kiffin better get ready to be shocked at the abilities of MB. I said too many times that we really didn’t need DMC because of Bush and now he’s going to see why along with everyone else. This kid is not a short yardage bruiser like Crockett. He is a dynamic talent capable of carrying this offense. His versatility is off the charts, a rare size speed guy who can flat out do it all. When he split him out wide it confirmed a lot of why I said what I said before the draft. He can do for us what Marcus Allen did and some. Marcus was never used in ways that he was capable of even though he caught a lot of passes he was more versatile than Marshall Faulk because of his ability to block and the same is true with Bush. The difference is Bush has a coach willing to use him in ways Flores and Shell nev er used Marcus.
He along with Russell will be the toughest players in the league to contain. Russell’s talents will make Bush even more dangerous. Kiffin has no idea what he has based on what he continues to say about Bush. Bush is much more versatile than Lyndale White. While their styles are obviously very different Michael Bush can be used almost like he used Reggie Bush. No, he’s not nearly as quick and explosive as Reggie but his skillset is very similar.
Kiffin will learn early on that he can do some of the same things with Michael that he did with Reggie. MB will do them differently but almost as effectively. DMC’s style i more similar to Reggie w/o the moves.
MB is a very rare animal and Kiffin will see in camp when he flattens a tackler on one play and on the next catches a pass and devastates the defense with his openfield running.
DMC is a luxury and will make some awesome open field runs as well as catching passes and wreaking havoc in his own way. But my point is we already had that ability just in a bigger more dominating package.
Don’t forget nor sell Fargas short he is now in a system that compliments his talent and he’s finally comfortable. His desire and fire will be very evident this season and most will be very surprised at the effectiveness.
I’m saying all this to say that along with the awesomw talent of Russell this could be the scariest offense to face and prepare for in the entire league by midseason. 3 HB’s with very different styles capable of dominating. And that doesn’t even include the passing game.
AFC west look the hell out, the RAIDERS are coming and bringing the most dynamic offense the league has seen in years.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Oakglenn Watkins has a good chance but what has he shown in mini camp and can he hold onto the ball and dose he have the speed that he is said to have?
June 5th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Stork don’t you mean “Missin abraincell”??? That guy is just plain dumb. And I mean dumb as a post dumb.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Ice, yes, and yes.
June 5th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Mistabrain cell was the extra in the movie dumb and dumber..the part fit like a glove..
June 5th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Good one Stork. yeah Mi