Training camp, Day 2 (A.M. practice)
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, July 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quick hits from Friday morning’s training camp practice:
– The defense had the offense frustrated for much of the padded session, putting the ball on the ground six times _ three times on the center exchange alone.
Two of the center-quarterback fumbles were with Jesse Boone at center and Marques Tuiasosopo at quarterback. The other fumble was by Andrew Walter, who, reminiscent of last year, didn’t go after the loose ball. He escaped the wrath of the coaching staff however.
“We went through practice one with no problems and I didn’t say anything, and (offensive coordinator Greg) Knapp says something to the offense about what a good job we did and he jinxed us,” coach Lane Kiffin said. “So we came out today and two of them were on the ground right away within 10 plays.”
Other fumbles were by wide receivers Jonathan Holland and Javon Walker, and running back Adimchinobe Echemandu.
– Strong safety Greg Wesley missed practice with back spasms. Those who didn’t practice also included Greg Spires (hamstring) and Grant Irons (hamstring). Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly took the practice off and worked on the cardio machines in the field house.
Wide receiver Ronald Curry was scheduled to take the practice off but came out on his own and practiced for a few sessions before removing his pads.
– Strong safety Gibril Wilson is already making his presence felt through two practices and may be the most significant of the offseason acquisitions when all is said and done, an idea I’ll explore in an upcoming Web exclusive column.
– Running backs were isolated in blocking drills against linebackers without an offensive lineman in front of them _ a drill which favors the defense. Running backs coach Tom Rathman watched closely as Darren McFadden allowed linebacker Malik Jackson to get past him after a quick engagement.
“Get your face on him on that pad, then strike and re-direct him,” Rathman said.
Jon Alston made a quick spin move during one turn to race past fullback Oren O’Neal, while Justin Fargas successfully slowed Sam Williams by taking the offensive and getting into his body. Echemandu successfully attempted the same tactic, with Williams escaping and Rathman urging the running back to “recover.”
– When Thomas Howard blew past running back Michael Bush, linebackers coach Don Martindale barked, “That’s what we’re going to bring this year.”
What, the Raiders are going to blitz?
At the drill’s conclusion, linebackers and running backs shook hands as if it were the end of a hockey game before moving on to a team session.
– Kiffin lauded the play of the defensive line, which made things difficult for JaMarcus Russell in terms of having time to throw the ball. Left tackle Kwame Harris, the free agent aquisition counted up on to start, had two false starts and some difficulty with end Kalimba Edwards.
– Tight end John Madsen has gained four more pounds. After seeing him drop a catchable ball from Russell on the sideline, you wonder if he could be another Randal Williams, the wide receiver who became a tight end and became too muscular to be a successful receiver.
– Holland made a nice diving catch of a low fastball by Russell for a big gain in a seven-on-seven drill. Jim Fassel, the former Giants head coach observing at the invitation of Kiffin, immediately asked his son John, “Who is that guy?”
Said John, a Raiders quality control coach: “Jon Holland. Second year, drafted him in the seventh round last year.”
– Who says the Raiders don’t know how to market? Players have been made available for interviews with a KTLA reporter _ an area the Raiders still consider to be their property.
– Sideline visitors included former Raider defensive tackle John Parrella, who brought some of his coaching staff and players from Valley Christian High School in Dublin. Valley will play a junior varsity schedule this year and add varsity next season.
Parrella is being assisted by former Raider end Josh Taves. Both men appear to have lost fifty-plus pounds since their playing days.
– Running back LaMont Jordan remained on the roster through the morning session but Kiffin said he expected a move to be made in the near future.
The Raiders practiced again with three quarterbacks, with punter Shane Lechler throwing a few passes to defensive backs in drills.
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July 25th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Its about time.. Need the fix..
July 25th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I cant wait for the damn season to start!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
i am numero 4
July 25th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
okay, 3 then…
July 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Just like we thought Harris is getting blasted!
July 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Good job Jerry.
I hope it´s ok to post other articles to compare what different eyes are seeing, so…
Another take from sf.gate.com:
“Raiders camp: Day 2.
Raiders coach Lane Kiffin declared the defense a winner in the first of two practices Friday. One telltale sign was all those loose balls bouncing on the ground.
The Raiders’ offense fumbled six balls during the morning workout at the Napa Valley Marriott. Three were botched center exchanges, three were forced by aggressive swipes.
One of those came from new strong safety Gibril Wilson, the former City College of San Francisco star who was brought in to add muscle to the run defense and secondary. Javon Walker came down with a jumping catch downfield, only for Wilson to sock the ball free from behind. Cornerback DeAngelo Hall recovered the fumble.
Safeties haven’t created many fumbles in years for Oakland. So far, Wilson is earning his $39 million keep.
“Gibril really is bringing a good mentality to our defense,” Kiffin said. “He’s extremely physical, which is good to see. Our defense needs to see that.”
Quarterback Marques Tuiasosopo fumbled two snaps from fourth-string center Jesse Boone. Andrew Walter lost the third snap, while receiver Jonathan Holland lost one catch and running back Adimchinobe Echemandu lost another ball.
The penalty for all involved: one lap around the field, on the spot. Same goes for offside-movers Kwame Harris and Kalimba Edwards.
New injuries: Safety Greg Wesley, a 10th-year veteran signed Tuesday, missed practice with back smasms. Such a quick injury brings back memories of Donovin Darius, a veteran pickup last year who limped his way to a cut-day exit.
Converted defensive lineman Fred Wakefield left practice with an undisclosed injury and defensive end Greg Spires missed a second straight practice with a hamstring injury. Undrafted rookie receiver Marcel Reece and outside linebacker Grant Irons also sat out with a hamstring injuries.
Jordan update: Kiffin said the LaMont Jordan will come to a close at some point today. The options are trade him (unlikely), let him practice (very unlikely) or release him (most likely).
Practice highlights:
Second-year defensive end Jay Richardson caught Darren McFadden from behind in the backfield on a play running to the opposite side. He also helped force Echemandu’s fumble despite double-team blocking. The right end job is his to lose.
Nose tackle Gerard Warren forced a fumbled snap with a perfectly timed swim move. He also had what would have been a sack if hitting quarterbacks was permissable.
During blocking drills, McFadden held his own against hard-charging middle linebacker Edgerton Hartwell. No easy task.
The offense keeps going to safety-valve dumpoff passes to a running back underneath when nothing else opens up. Even the fullbacks are getting some action.
Middle linebacker Kirk Morrison stuffed Justin Fargas with a burst up the middle. That’s the sort of improvement this run defense needs. …
Center Jake Grove took the majority of first-team snaps, which is more about him catching up from a missed offseason than a depth-chart statement.”
sfgate.com, David White.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I’m still not convinced that our offense has improved that much from last year. We need a good #1 WR, which Walker is not (he’s a good #2). Time to find a Left Tackle as well.
So much for Greg Wesley coming in and making a huge impact, unless sitting out with back spasms are the type of impact he was looking to give.
Just Prove It, Baby!
July 25th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Haha
you myiopians are pathetic!
Believe me, the Raiders won’t win more than 5 games this season. You guys are going down and going down hard!
As long as AL DAVIS is around, you guys are destined to lose every season! Hahaha.
Face it morons….the great Denver Broncos OWNS your asses! Cutler is going to teach you guys a lesson this season, losers! Hahahaha
July 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
how many recievers do you think they will keep and who?
July 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
so Walter escapes the wrath of the coaching staff after a fumble and “0″ effort at recovery…
sounds like walter ain’t gonna make it…
you only bitch when you give a rip…
July 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
lets steal boldin from the cardinals?? …. what u guys think???
July 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
The Harris news is a little disturbing.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
my god where going to blitz thomas howard!!!about time we use are personell correctly
July 25th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
i don’t think Jam is gonna throw much this year anyway…
Harris is there to be a road grader…
July 25th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Jerry Mac…
Great work, keep ‘em coming..
Did, someone say lunch???
http://www.chickipedia.com/ann-ceurvels/photosgallery/Ann01_609-jpg.html
July 25th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
The O-line will be disadvantaged in practices because they are not allowed to cut their teammates.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Kwame is scaring the hell out of me!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
who left the door open?/ we got a coward a$$ donky fan in here!!
yo die hard why not just die?
July 25th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
How did Mario Henderson look?
July 25th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
LT Harris? HAHAHAHAHA~
you guys gonna SUCK big time. LOSERS!
Go Denve Broncos!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
hey donkey dude… u need to quit wid all the boo#$%^&….its only been one real day of practice and u runnin your mouth like we gon run all over your team!!! u need to worry bout your qb gettin taken out early in the game .. cu z den u aint got no game!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Culter is going to wind up a average player, he couldn’t beat MTSU fof christ sake lol. Remember 34-20? Its going to get worse for the donkeys.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
http://www.chickipedia.com/zhang-ziyi/
i like asian food…
July 25th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Good point KoolKell, even still looks like our RB are going to be doing a lot of chipping on the left side (Harris)
July 25th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Ok guys, I admit that smack was overboard, considering my team is no better off than yours this year.
Actually I used to be a Raider fan until Elway started winning. Call it bandwagon if you must.
I used to like you boys from Oaktown cause Al is such an innovator, but I live in CO and couldn’t take the heat from the locals.
Long live the rivalry! Lets hope Al Davis doesn’t dump Kiffin like he did Gruden. Man you guys were tough that year after Al robbed the Bucs of the cash and picks!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Wow, thats all you got bronco fan? “you’re going to suck.. Losers..” Good job. You don’t even have to say you’re a bronco fan. We can already tell by your intelligence.. You think the broncos did anything to improve themselves this season? You say we suck but we beat you last year.. What does that say about your team? Go back to brokeback mountain with your buddy Jay..
July 25th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
TEOFILO DIMAANO
My Prediction: We are going to burry RUSSEL deep in the ground with some major hits and sacks this season, thanks to your starting LT Harris.
You guys haven’t even addressed your Left Tackle position (the most important position in the NFL on the OL). You guys are going down….Russell is going to get injured, and your crappy ass BACK QBs going to choke even worse.
Face it FAIDA NATION, you guys are going down and AL DAVIS is going to fire LAME KIFFIN and bring in another scapegoat to coach the pathetic loser nation. HAHAHAHA!~
July 25th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
DH donkey smoocher STFU!!! nobody cares
July 25th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Don’t get too worried, it’s the second practice. Let’s see if Harris steadily improves. If we’re reading this after a couple of pre-season games, count me in on the worried line.
Yeah! we’ll blitz but it must be effective, Howard blitzed several times last year but was largely ineffective, hopefully this year he’ll be much more aggressive with it, along with the rest of the LBer’s and safties.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
And go Niners too! Their fans are so much more polite than you all. I just get too scared going to watch the Raiders in Colorado.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
I like the 49ers. Screw the Raiders.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Hey BlackAnalPriest
HARRIS was a BUST, and you guys signed up a BUST player to be your starting LT. Face it, you guys are done…history. Faida Nation is going to blow hard again, HHAHAHAHA~
July 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
You know, with all the updates and the optimism and stuff…this is my favorite time of the year.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Rat Season, opens 9-8-08..No limit…
July 25th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Hey its the discharger fan disquised as a bronco fan. You guys remember lasr year chocolate rain myopians guy. ringless chargers, we will win 3 more rings befor SD wins 1 hahahaha chocolate rain idiot.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
My favorite quote so far, courtesy of Jason Jones..
With the offense being careless with ball, the defense didn’t manage to pick off any of the Raider quarterbacks’ passes.
Rookie safety Tyvon Branch came close but the ball bounced off his pads. Hiram Eugene tried to snag the ball, but it fell to the grass.
Defensive end Derrick Burgess had an interesting take on the play.
“If those were some dice you would have caught those (expletives),” Burgess yelled.
He is hands down the coolest…
July 25th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Myopians? Dude weren’t you a chargers fan last year? Another one of MR’s mulitple personalities?
July 25th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Boy I sure hated losing Warren, and now we got nuthin in da middle. Can’t believe Al talked Shanny into a trade in the AFC West. Another reason to give the man hiz props. But no worries. If y’all Faiders start winning I’ll bust out my Villapiano jersey. Either way I gets minez!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
rod smith just retired??? and cutlers still your qb?? say goodbye to your team!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I kind of expected practice to be a lil sluggish for the offense.
there’s a lot of new pieces on offense and they have to get chemistry and timing down in order to see real results. However
I love what Im hearing about the Defense. Hit’em up Howard making plays is exactly what I expected and it comes as no surprise. I guarentee Howard will become an official Pro bowler (although I dont get caught up in pro bowl hype) along with Captain Kirk. I look foward to hearing about the offensive strides taking place in the next week or so. YA KNOW?!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I wonder what that does to the mind playing all these diffrent people and personalitites? Sad, very sad.
Myopian/rain guy you need help.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
F*ck the Chargers but f*ck the raiders even more!
You myopians are never going to playoffs as long as AL DAVIS is around. Thank you AL DAVIS! HAHAHAHAHA~
Faida Nation, remember my PREDICTION:
Russell gets injured, thanks to your starting LT Harris, then QB Walter/TUI comes in and you know the rest, HAHAHAHAHA
We are going to win the division this season, and either Faidas or the Chefs will be on the bottom! HAHAHAHAHA!~
July 25th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Yes Thec, very sad and somewhat disturbing. This guy used to be somewhat commical and fun to interact with and argue with. Now it’s kind of strange and creepy, dude has some SERIOUS issues.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Einstein…post 37.
Exactly.
Is it a coincidence that we had a “Giants fan” yesterday posting 1 out of every 5 comments and now we have a “Denver fan” doing the same?.
Not to mention that he´s posting as me and other regulars.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
who does denver have playing WR brandon marshall is facing suspension, and Javon Walke….allmost forgot you guys got rid of Javon Walker.
Kepp the liar marshall awy from mc donalds.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Anyone pour any beer out for Rod Smith yesterday?? Good freakin riddance!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
yo floppy donkey shlong lover
Well own ur sorry a$ses on monday nite
enough said
July 25th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
I know it’s way early but i haven’t read too many positive things about the o-line. From where I am it seem like Harris is struggling right now. Also, if Kelly supposedly, acording to Coach K., got three sacks and dominated yesterday then does that also mean that Gallery got beat three times and was dominated by his man. Burgess unstopable? What’s going on here? Just wondering…
July 25th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Einstien, Yes i am sitting hear laughing at your last post this guy is creepy but i fell sorry for chocolate rain guy charger fan. I bet the guy doesnt even watch football.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Bronco fan. Unbelievable. The greatest bronco fan of them all was that one guy who wore nothing but orange bronco boots and a barrel so other bronco fans could easily blow the guy in the lav. Ignore this moron. It’s probably just MR again, since the 9ers quit practice this am.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
KoolKell Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
The O-line will be disadvantaged in practices because they are not allowed to cut their teammates.
——–
Very true. The real test is in 13 days. I will start worrying after the third pre-season game, if this is still an issue.
Isn’t the third game when the starters are in the greater amount of time?
July 25th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
He isn’t a donkey fan, he is just a very disturbed individual. Last year he was a charger fan, remember the (myopians, chocolate rain, Tim Harris YMCA lover) diatribe? The cussing, etc… Yesterday StrahanManNY, and the many other mulitple personalities he has.
Even though we might get upset with him, please don’t argue with him, he is special, and has a special disease. We must engage him with understanding and accpetance of his mental retardation. Just love for him and care for him, and appreciate his lack of mental process and capacity. Don’t refer to him as a retard, that is derogatory, just refer to him as special.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Oh my god! on raiders.com the picture of kiffin with JT the Brick shows Lane is wearing a non raiders shirt! i bet his job is on the line again. wait til the media sees this.
so, NOT!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
This guy has a diffrent tone than MR, myopians dude you need lots of help or meds which ever you choose. you are sick, and I know playing all these diffrent people has affected your social skills….. try to get a grip man. see a shrink, talk to your mom, or pastor. You need to move on with your life I am seriously afraid you may hurt someone.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Welcome Gibril…we needed you man.
“Wilson just might take someone’s head off.
He throws his shoulder pads into every play. Kiffin likes it but admits Wilson’s play “borderlines right now on the safety of our other players” but wants Wilson’s style to ru b off on the rest of the defense.
Wilson said when he signed with the Raiders he asked to play strong safety because he wanted to be near the ball.
“I like to be physical,” Wilson said. “I don’t like to have guys get extra yards or anything like that. I’m a very physical guy and the other team knows it.”
July 25th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
In the third preseason game the starters usually play into the third quarter.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
einstien, post 52 = Priceless.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Damn I love you Jerry. I want you to adopt me
July 25th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Thec…it´s the same guy, that´s what Trolls do.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Some news , on Gibril included at…
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/
July 25th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
“He promised me,” said Peterson, referring to Dorsey, “and he’s going to lose his bet that he’s going to be here on time. Branden won the bet.
“I think sometimes it shows a little bit about the character of the young man that he makes a commitment and stands by it.”
LMFAO sounds like Dorsey and the Chefs are not on the same page.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Dang, Marley got to it 1st.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Having Wilson lay the wood to opponents is EXACTLY what this defense needs. Certainly Stew and Huff didn’t bring it.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Marley, yeah i know its him but i hate to say it i am sitting here cracking up at this guy. I know he needs help but his schtick is very funny…..
July 25th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Wilson sounds like a RAIDER NATION member from the 70’s teams. He looks and sounds like he plays smashmouth, not this dainty sissy stuff. thats what I am talking about Wilson…. Want to see him come on a safety blitzfrom the left side against the dischargers and blast the S#!t out of rivers.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Thec…and the people in charge of this blog seem to love him stalking the readers, so whatever.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
hey bronco fan.. u giys aint gon put a dent in nothin?? u mules r da ones dats gon be goin 4 and out!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
If Peterson and Segal do not discuss and resolve the situation, and Dorsey is not in River Falls by 9 a.m. today, it would be the ninth time in the last 13 years a Chiefs first-round pick was a training camp holdout.
If this was the Raiders the press would be all over us as a disfunctional front office. All I can say is Thank You Dmac, and Al for get n er dun!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
I agree that two of our big question marks right now are at LT(Harris) and #1 receiver(Walker).
I agree and am going on record as saying that I seriously think we should make a run at Boldin from Arizona as our #1 receiver.
For the amount of money we offered Walker, I’m just not seeing the leadership or commitment so far. So what if it’s only the second day of training camp. He should already have come into camp with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove.
Boldin at number 1, Carter at number 2(he’s earned it) and Curry in the slot. As far as Kwame Harris, all we can do is pray.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
We love our Special little Troll. Love him, care for him, nurish him. He is special.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
I’m telling ya, With Wilson at S. Saftey, other teams RB’s & Rec’s are going to have their heads on swivels, be hearing footsteps and growing some gator arms. As soon as they start seeing Gibril, drop some timber on guys, hopefully reminiscent of the ways ol’ Jack did back when..
July 25th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
You know my Raider brothers, I don’t know about you, but I am so pummped up about this year. I am especially excited to see JRuss and DMac, our future of the franchise. For once, in a very long time, we have something real and solid to look forward to.
I am still debating which jersey to get for the 2008 season, I could use some help from you guys in a decision, here is my list:
1.Russell
2. Burgess
3. Aso (moved up my list just showing up to camp)
4. Morrison
Need some help, not sure which to get.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
I gots minez!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Einstein…LOL.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
**safEty**..ERRRRR..sorry, spell cops…
July 25th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
The little multiple faqqot is playing Bob Marley today.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
its obvious that the donkey fan is worried about our team?? he’s on our page??? he must have a lot of time on his hands to be spying on the team??? hey donkey… yourshort yellow bus is here!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Fellas this is a work in progress. No one said we got all the holes on this team filled this off season. At this point the defense is going to be playing better than the offense. We are going to need an upgrade at both OT positions. It’s just the way it is. Fortunately the QB position is solid.
BTW, Andrew Walter fumbles a snap???? No, couldn’t be.
July 25th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Einstein….
Go w/ Aso..
Save some $$$ for a M. Bush jersey also, will be a hot item soon IMO..
July 25th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Multiple is such a pathetic little creature. I guess no one will talk to him in real life, or even on this blog. So he pretends to be a credible regular to get some desperately attention, so pathetic.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
KK
It´s me right now, I saw on an earlier thread that you´re getting excited about the big fella…
July 25th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
exactly teofilo. Bronco fan is here??? What have they done since Elway left???? nothing. Who’s coming next to chime in about the Raiders, Detroit Lion and Az Cardinal fan??
July 25th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
hey einstein…. any one of those jerseys would be a CHOICE selection!!! i wouldnt know which one to pick also??
July 25th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Really, KoolKell. I hear ya. It’s pathetic.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
My main concern is the LT position. If Jamarcus goes down, we look shaky at the backup QB position. Cable has his work cut out for him with Harris between now and the start of the season.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
It’s too early to address the low life Bronco fan. I am concerned about Kwame Harris at left tackle. And Robert Gallery better be a force this season! We have the weapons, now it’s time to put it all together. RAIDERS!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Bob,
When you don’t refer to me by name, what phrase do you use?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
LOL, Dimaano.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Kell, it’s me. Are you this paranoid all the time?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
LOL at this Bronco fan trying to post here. We all know who it is. The Broncos do always find a way to beat us, though.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
hey oak… shanahan’s dentures r gonna fall out when he cant stop our run!! …. even more… when he tries to throw it downfield??? come on people…. just stuff da run?? ease up on the penalties??? norcal stand up…. monterey, salinas,seaside…….is in the house!!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
KK
Why give it away?…
But it´s me, I once told you to get a hold of McFadden when he was looking for a home in the Bay Area.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Uh oh….
July 25th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Now our special little troll is starting to post as me, how sad. What a special little guy, glad he looks up to me.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
The Real Bob Marley doesn’t waste his time with the silly nonsense that You little faq occupy yourself with 24/7, Troll.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
if harris is getting pancaked by kalimba edwards in train ingc amp its time to push the panic button
July 25th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
KoolKell, the freak is here..
I posted 92….. but 89 and 90 are not me.
Beware of the Troll folks.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Looks like he’s back, everyone, in case you were wondering why there’s so many Marley posts.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I have 1 question for everyone on this blog who responds to these termites who comes in here and ruffle feathers.
WHY???
I though you guys would’ve figured it out by now. Deep down in thier hearts they really are Raider Fans. If they were not fans then none of them or him would even know anything about this site. If they didnt know about Inside Bay that means that they went on the internet and Googled Oakland Raiders and thats how they discover our blog site. Look,, I couldnt tell you guys the name of any other team site if I had a gun to my head. You know why? Its because I could care less about another team not named the Raiders. So the next time one these termites decides to pop up on our site, think about it before you cramp your fingers up trying to swat’em away because deep down everybody is intrigued with the Raiders. Thats why they always have something to say about the Raiders even if its in the form of talking silly sh*t. YA KNOW?!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
This idiot really needs a life. Has anyone tried to contact the website about this? It’s illegal, right?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
He’s not a freak he is special. He is our special little guy.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
fellas… my time is up .. i hate to go so early . but thats how da navy life is ….. especially on a carrier… but il be back fo sho… u guys stay up … keep up da good work…. time is ticking…. peas im out…
July 25th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Rick The Hunter, because we have to defend our blog. We can’t just let the trolls run roughshod over the place. But if you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend they’re not here, be my guest.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Post 103 isn’t me Rick. It’s the troll. I don’t even know what the hell “roughshod” means.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Einstein, there’s no need for that. Rick was just trying to make a point.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
It wasn’t me Bob.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
It wasn’t me, Marley. It was the troll. What are you, anyway, Mr. Conductor in here? Do you always have to play dad in here?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Not playing this game, the real Einstein is outta here. Later nation.
Bye bye special little troll.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Yeah, there’s a persistent colony of cockroaches here.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Glad it wasn’t you, Einstein. Because again, Rick the Hunter was making a good point. I agree with him. We should ignore him. But some people in here are obviously incapable of it.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Thomas howards gone be key, he’s coming on blitz’s look for turnovers, I’m go out on a limb a say probowl year. 6 sacks, 5 int, 110 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 12 broken up passes.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
“marley dont shoot em.” lil wayne
July 25th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
But one last thing before I leave, troll boy, how’s the ebonics going today, partna???
LOL.
Have fun, guys. Have fun telling everyone how to live their lives, Marley. I mean, Dad!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Jerry McDonald…
I hope you enjoy MR and his multiple postings, because pretty soon it could be just you and him in here.
Post 92 was my last one.
Have fun with our “special little guy” as Einstein calls him.
Have a good one everyone, you too fake “Bob”.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Einstein, you really need to calm down, man. We already have Johnny Rebel. We don’t need another mouthy drama queen in here. You said you were leaving, so leave. You’re almost as bad as you know who.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Hewwo everyone you silly myopians, I love the Giants , Broncos, and Chargers, and hate the Raiders, you here dat PARTNA? I gots minez. I gots no beef with white man.
Please support me at my website http://www.thearc.org also listed in my name posting.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Ooh, look out. Now Marley’s threatening Jerry! Marley’s going to stage a walkout! LOL.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Ha ha ha, Special Troll, that’s good. We’re going to nail him, now!
I WILL!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
All the troll wants to talk about is other posters. That’s how you know him. He knows sheit about football, and doesn’t discuss it.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
It’s too bad Mo Ron has to come in here and mess it up for everyone. Here we are, second day of the season, a Super Bowl season, at that, and troll boy is in here hogging all of the fame, as usual. I told you guys not to respond to him, yet you keep doing it anyway. Fine. Just remember when he starts his usual racist crap, don’t cry to me.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Uhm, Oakglenn, you forgot to change your name back… #120
July 25th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Jerry, if you can’t get this fixed I for one am done coming in here. I’ll give it to the start of the season after that you wont hear from me.
Who can have a legitimate conversation? Concerning the team, which is what we come we come in here for, with this childish crap going on.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I’m thinking this individual is either paralyzed from the waist down, or otherwise terrible isolated from society. Because he desperately needs out attention.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
What’s up Nation! Just got here. This is my first post of the day. Anyhow, what’s the word from camp? I’ve read reports that the offensive line looks good. And, they haven’t even started their cut blocking, yet. I’m thinking that maybe we can be a hybrid offensive line, using both cut blocking and standard blocking? What do you guys think?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I’m giving you one week, Jerry. Or I’m suing you.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
LOL, Kell. I hear ya.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
buy a Gallery jersey
July 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
I think that’s an excellent idea, Oakglenn.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
i am getting a bush jersey as soon as they start selling them.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
the real oakglenn doesnt use words like hybrid and standard and what
July 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Thank you, Bob. I was thinking about it all day at my babysitter’s house. I can’t go online when I’m over there. Mom’s orders. You know, my little porn problem. So anyhow, I’m over there thinking; If we use both cut blocking and standard blocking, we could throw off opposing defensive schemes. When you add that to the weapons we already have, I honestly think we’re unstoppable this year. Bet you the mediots will never say a word about it, though.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
STFU Troll, don’t speak to me you p.o.s.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Like I said, the Faida Nation is going to SUCK again as usual.
Remember how excited you guys were last year about Kiffin? He only won 4 games.
Remember how excited you guys were about Art Shell as ur coach? He got fired.
Remember how excited you guys were about Norv Turner? He got canned.
You guys always get excited, and then disappointed right after. You guys are PATHETIC.
Watch the raiders lose again this year.
PREDICTION: RUSSELL GETS INJURED, THANKS TO LT HARRIS.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA~
July 25th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
My babysitter made me a cake for my 31st birthday last week. Had a Raider helmet on it. It was awesome. I wish all of you could have been there.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
buy a moss jersey they are selling for $15 getting while they are hot. lol
July 25th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
is bronco fan the same guy that was strahan teeth or whatever..s.ame person right??
July 25th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Happy belated birthday, Oakglenn. And, I wish I could have been to your party, too. Sorry I didn’t call you back. Busy schedule. Camp’s just opened. Glad you had a good birthday though, buddy.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Probaby, Los Angeles Raiders. And, we know who it is. Just ignore him, man.
Who do you think will be our breakout player this year, LAR?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
“Probably”, I meant. Sorry.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Bob Marley Impersonator,
Do you have a girlfriend of anything, for godsakes?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
You tell ‘em, Kell.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
OMG I AM IN RARE FORM TODAY. I NEED MY MEDS, CUZ I AM A F’N FREAK.
Dude for real what is your problem? You has some serious issues man. You really don’t see it though do you? You just find this commical, but for real, you have some serious issues.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Marley Impersonator,
Do you have any other avenues for conversation?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Of course he doesn’t have a girlfriend, Kell. Why do you think he’s here?
Hey Kell, who do you think will be our breakout player this year? Do you think Tommy Kelly will have a good year?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Just answer that troll, just explain to us why you do this?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Bob Marley,
You typical Faida Fan. I bet all you do is smoke blunt and get high. You have no education, a typical high school drop out like all the rest of them faida nation losers.
You know I am right and you are wrong. The Faida Nation always disappoints…all you guys ever do is think about the past raiders.
Guess what morons? The past is history and the future is now…and ur future SUCKS. Myopians.
HAHAHAHAHAHA~
July 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Marley Impersonator,
Don’t try to play me you little p.o.s.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
has anyone ever looked at Miller’s rookie stats compared to gates, gonzales, whitten,cooly,shocky? I think Miller will be our breakout player this season. His rookie stats are better than all the above mentioned probowl tight ends rookie stats.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Special Troll, ignore the troll. Don’t engage him. What did I tell you guys? The more you engage him, the longer he stays. I stopped engaging Mo Ron weeks ago. I just ignore him, now. I wish the rest of you would do the same. Let’s talk Raider football! Camp’s open! I WILL!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Marley Impersonator,
You know you’re a sicko, don’t you?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Great job Jerry, would like to hear some tidbits on Michael Bush. Guess we will know more on August 8th.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Uhm, Oakglenn, buddy, you forgot to change your screenname back. Comment # 149.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Marley Impersonator,
In the back of your mind you realize you’re a sicko, don’t you?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
for our sake im hoping its tommy kelly, or jamarcus…” who is that Kid holland” gets 100 catches would be a nice story
July 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Dude, just answer the question. Why do you do this? You seriously have some mental problems if you find this entertaining. You have been doing this for over a year now. That is just wierde man.. very very strange.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
You tell ‘em, Kell.
Kell, it’s really me. Who’s your breakout player this year? What excites you about this season? I think it’s going to be McFadden.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
ANSWER THE QUESTION TROLL.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
With all the “dropped” balls.. it’s good to hear that not one came from DMC
July 25th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Oh, not he’s posting as Special Troll. This guy is sick!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Im confused now..I dont know who is who..
July 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Or Russell for that manner…
July 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Marley Impersonator,
I think the breakout player of the year will be your psychiatrist!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Well, looks like MoRon has returned. Well, if you wouldn’t talk to him, we wouldn’t be having this mess here. I’m looking at you Huff24. You want to talk to whoever, well, now look at the mess.
You have to ignore him. The Real Oakglenn is done posting for the day.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Everybody, the troll impersonator is now posting under the name, “Special Troll”. I know it’s not him. I don’t know who was originally “Special Troll”, but I know the person posting as him now isn’t him. Stop engaging Mo Ron, everyone. Just talk football. I WILL!
I WILL!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
sick sick sick, raider haters in here, get a life, get a job, get a girlfriend, go to the gym, play video games, read a book, watch a movie, buy a dog, go to church, dont have babies. To all u double posters.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Marley Impersonator,
Don’t you have anything else going in life other than impersonating people on this blog?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
mcfadden o.rookie of the year. probowl –> morrison, burgess,aso,hall,miller,lechler
July 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Nite All.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
I have a fix to this whole problem..there has to be some kind of ignore button that can be created to choose who’s post you want to read
July 25th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
It’s funny how everyone loves McFadden now, three months ago everyone wanted Dorsey or Ghoulston. Run DMC is going to light it up. RaiderNation is strong down here in South Florida. The Dolphins are the gayest team in pro sports period. Even their colors are gay.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
block the ips some how
July 25th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
so no injuries yet that good.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
In fact, Huff, when I contact Jerry today I’m going to tell him about you as well as Mo Ron. I’m taking legal action against all of you. I’m sick of you guys ruining my blog.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
mcfadden supporter since day one baby. me and dakota are the only ones I remember always on mcfaddens wagon.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
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July 25th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
dorsey is still holding out…sands and kelly …lets fuc@%# GO!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I’m contacting Jerry today about blocking IP’s and having a registration system. I’m going to tell him straight up: Look, as*hole, this is my blog and I want the trash cleaned out! Let me handle it, guys.
I WILL!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
i SAID GET LONG IF NOT DMAC
July 25th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
true i said that also haha, but everyone had long top 3.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
So, Mcfadden’s wagon, you think McFadden will be our breakout player? So do I. I’m really excited about this season.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
MCfaddenswagon, I was screaming that same thing in March. A lot of the bloggers here wanted Dorsey. I remember a couple of you guys. I’m just glad we took him. He is a gamebreaker and will bring it to the next level and to the Black Hole. Wish I could be there to celebrate it with Raider Nation. I will have to wait to witness it down here in Florida. I can’t wait for that game.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
They’ve tried it but Mo circumvents it. LA you can’t cry to daddy. We’ve brought this problem on ourselves by engaging this tool. Everyone HAS to ignore him. When you ignore him he DOES GO AWAY.
There are still a couple of posters here who think its fun to engage him. I’m the point guy here, because he posts as me more than anyone because I see thru his garbage and have told countless other posters to ignore him.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
The only thing I’m worried about is that we still always find a way to lose.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Although I think the Miami cheerleaders are hotter!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Marley Impersonator,
You know squat about the game.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
hahahahahaha. It’s so much fun to post as marley and oakglenn and ruin everything. screw the raiders!!!! Go niners!!!!!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Oakglenn, you can start by ignoring him yourself, buddy.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Afternoon, MR.
So, who’s your breakout player this year?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Marley Impersonator,
Can’t you act like a man, and speak for yourself?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
thanks phony Bob. I do ignore that imbecile.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Yeah he’s going to bring the excitement, I want to see him in real time against NFL players, and see if he has that burst he had in college, to blast into the secondary. I think learning under fargas would be good for him, because fargas is a small guy yet isn’t afraid to take a hit or deliever one, so hopefully Mcfadden will learn to put the head down and keep the legs moving.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
My breakout player, Marley?
I’ve got to go with Kiffin. He’ll be breaking out of here by week 4, with Al’s money.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
w/ people using the blog from several sites… blocking ips isn’t the answer… and we don’t need jerry to police the board… … if you ignore the ignorant…they’ll eventually disappear… it’s that simple. They’re pining for attention …and easily getting it…
“you don’t sell drugs…people buy drugs” Chris Rock
July 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Good point Marley. Things like botch snapps that are fumble losses, too many penalties especailly false starts “Number 76 on the Offense”, too many first down runs by the Troll, LT. I can go on and on. But just like a lot us in here, I feel something special about this team and for our future.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Alex Smith. this year he is going to have his best year as a pro. Jamarcus is going down to injury.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Just what I’d expect you to say, MR.
Oakglenn, you’re not ignoring him when you refer to him in 3rd person. That’s as good attention as any kind.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Marley Impersonator,
In the back of your mind, you know you’re pathetic, right? I know you’re having fun, but in your quiet moments, you know you’re pathetic, right?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
a Solid 8-8 would be a success… just like Grudens first 8-8… that followed a crappy 8-8… from there it’s 10 plus wins for a time to come…
July 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
My cousin from Redwood City is coming down here next week, I need to tell him to pick up a McFadden jersey for me from The Raider Image. Does anynone know what they run out there? $200?
July 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Looks like the troll’s posting as me, too. #195 isn’t me, people. Considering the pro whiner garbage, I’m guessing it’s Oakglenn. That’s right, everyone, the same Oakglenn who constantly complains about people posting under other peoples’ names. The same Oakglenn who tells everyone to ignore the trolls (and me, for that matter), yet can’t do it himself.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
19-61, 19-61, 19-61, the Raiders are a hopeless rudderless mess. Take that Oakglenn and Marley and Kook-kell and all the rest of you losers.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Marley Impersonator,
Deep down inside, you know you’re pathetic right?
July 25th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Oakglenn, how about you ignore the trolls for a change, and tell us who you think our breakout player will be this year? You’re the one always telling us to ignore the trolls and talk football, Oakglenn. And if you notice, that’s exactly what I’m doing. So, let’s talk football, buddy.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Oakglenn just got Marley’d.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
I’m really a Raider fan. I really am. I’m just here to bring attention to how bad the Raiders are, how bad their organisation is with Al running the show and I’m going to post as Kook-kell, Marley, oakglenn and others to prove how much of a Raider fan I really am.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Mr. “ignore the trolls, I wish the mods would do something about posting under other people’s names” himself, Oakglenn, just posted as me again. # 205.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Marley Impersonator,
You know It’s takes quite an effort to ignore your sub-conscious. You can only hide from it for so long, you know that dont’cha?
July 25th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Here’s my wildcard breakout player. Arman Shields. Just kidding although this guy is a sleeper. McFadden all the way. Peace out Raider Nation, time to go and get some Italian food from Maggiano’s.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
This is why nobody takes you seriously, Oakglenn. Do you realize how many people have noticed that the “trolls” are only here when you are?
July 25th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
florida, they run like 225 tax included
July 25th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
I guess no one fell for the fact that I am posting as myself, Marley and Oakglenn along with SpecialTroll. You guys are getting smarter. It’s just Al who is getting dumber. Signing Kwame Harris?? What a waste.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Marley Impersonator,
You’re sooo stoopid. I said you identify troll by their conversation, know all you can ask is who the breakout player will be. Weak.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Thanks Wagon, maybe I’ll stick with ebay, I got my Jamarcus for $60, authentic. Peace out man.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
I was starting to get the feeling it was Oakglenn pulling all of this crap.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Marley Impersonator,
The Real Marley would have been out of here 2 hours ago, fool.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Mr. seriously i don’t mind you that bad when you actually talk football. Its just when you flood the blog with rants that it doesnt give anyone else room to manuever threw all the maneur.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
shut up KOOK. At least some of the other posters bring some value to this blog. You just whine.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Now you want to post as me now. You little P.O.S
lol
July 25th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Cheaper seats means more thugs will be at the games. That means more aggressive security. That means people getting slammed to the ground by rogue rent a cop thugs for no reason, all day long. Enjoy the season, everyone.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
You really know you have some issues right?
From a man to a man, MR, Troll, myopian, whatever you are, doing this is really kind of sick. You have a metnal problem and really need to check yourself. It’s very strange dude, and very creepy. You have some deep issues..
July 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
winning cures everything
July 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
You tell ‘em, McFadden’s wagon.
Kool Kell, about ticket prices and security, I hope you’re wrong. But that sounds like a sign of the times.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Marley Impersonator,
Marley would have been out of here 2 hours ago. But you can’t can you? You need the pathetic attention, don’t you?
July 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Who wants a mustache ride?
July 25th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Anyone wanna take a bet that MR is between the ages of 29 and 37?
My guess is 34.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Now you want to impersonate KoolKell too, you little faqqot.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Einstein,,
Its not about burying my head in the sand. Its about paying attention to whats going on with the Raiders. You gotta understand that these termites are probably kids on summer vacation from school who sit at home all day with nothing else to do. I dont think its a coincidence that we get these clowns poping up every year around this time. But grown men shouldnt get too worked up by some young punks who have nothing else to do. Im a 33yr old grown ass man who wouldnt waste time in a keyboard fight with some clown typing silly sh*t on a computer. When my Lady starts nagging the hell outa me, I dont go tit for tat with her, I simply hit the imaginary mute button in her and tune her out and she shuts the hell up. Trust me bruh,, if these clowns really had a problem with Raider fans they wouldnt be on computer talking sh*t, they would do it face to face with a Raiders fan, but I dont think they’re willing to take a real life ass beating. All Im saying is when you come across a termite on this site, dont feed them wood and I guarentee you they will die and fall off this site.
Its all good brotha! YA KNOW?!
July 25th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Impersonator,
Some fans won’t put up with your garbage, you little P.O.S
July 25th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
You have to ignore MoRon. He’s obviously NOT a Raider fan, he’s here to cause problems, end of story.
McFaddenswagon, don’t even engage him, otherwise, this is what we have here, and everyone blames ME.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
gotta agree with Rick the Hunter here.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
see 193 Rick…totally agree…
July 25th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
You guys this is not fifty people making a mess here. IT’S ONE OR TWO PEOPLE. IGNORE THEM.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
agreed
July 25th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I won’t ignore impersonators, I’ll jump right in their arses.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
What the F is going on? Is this romper room?
July 25th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
All of the experts are predicting that McFadden is going to be a BUST~! HAHAHAHAHA
According to Baldinger, you guys are going to REGRET drafting McFadden and passing up on DORSEY.
That was soo retarded.
You guys are HISTORY. Say good bye, Faida Nation!
Hit Rock Bottom once again. HAHAHAHAHA~
Its all about them BROCNOS baby!
July 25th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Fans come here to exchange ideas about the Raiders. It’s impossible if you don’t know who you’re talking to.
Sometimes they have to be flushed, sometimes the flushing is long, but there’s really no blog until they’re flushed and normal conversation can continue, sorry.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Issues man, you have some serious issues. Get a life loser. PARTNA!!
July 25th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Hey Marley/KoolKell Impersonator,
Where u at, you little P.O.S? Come out and talk to me!
July 25th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Denver Broncos will hand you guys your FIRST defeat of the season on MNF!
Get ready losers…..because we are about to open a can of whoop ass at your own home territory against them faidaz!
My PREDICTION: Our defense will CRUSH RUSSELL and injure him, thanks to your LT Harris.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hey DHBF (Donking Har Baugh Forever). Where do you get your Crap from? The Donkey’s haven’t been contenders for a long time. They are showing no promise of a winning season this year either.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
The Impersonator is obviously a coward, he won’t face me, or anybody else under his own moniker. Where you at faqqot?
July 25th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
fans against trolls, you are sinking to his level and that pretty low.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
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“Do not feed the trolls” and its abbreviation DNFTT redirects here. For the Wikipedia essay, see “What is a troll?”
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2
July 25th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group’s common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they — and the troll — understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll’s enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Raiders anyone??? I think one of the most promising things I got out of this mornings practice is Dmac seems to be picking up his blocking assignments fairly well. Better than Mike Bush unfortunately. That’s a good sign for Dmac. It took Huggy Jr. THREE YEARS to learn his.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
i like the fact that they encouraged blitzing
July 25th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
WHY DO TROLLS DO IT:
I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.
Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.
For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.
Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?
Remember that trolls are cowards; they’ll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that’s what they do!).
July 25th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
wagon it’s not that they didn’t blitz, they just didn’t blitz enough. That’s the main Al Davis defensive philosophy is rush 4. Don’t give up lots of big plays that a picked up blitz can surrender. Just the way it is.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
oakglenn, with this years secondary, we would be crazy not to blitz a lot. I hope rob ryan can realize this and put pressure on the qb, even brady gets rattled under a blitz. and morrison and howard are more then cable to cover rbs out the backfield.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
LaMont Jordan cut loose (at last)
The Raiders did the only thing they could do with running back LaMont Jordan. They released him Friday.
The dismissal, first reported by profootballtalk.com, was confirmed by a league source this afternoon. By cutting Jordan, the Raiders did the smart thing and avoided an unnecessary training camp showdown and a potential grievance filing with the league.
The Raiders told Jordan not to report to camp this week even though he was under contract. With no teams willing to trade for the onetime 1,000-yard rusher, they had no other choice but to grant his release.
So ends a three-year stay that began with a 1,000-yard season in 2005, only to fall apart with consecutive seasons of back troubles.
Jordan lost his starting job to Justin Fargas last year, then became further expendable when the Raiders drafted Arkansas running back Darren McFadden with the fourth overall pick of the draft.
Take into account the May release of Dominic Rhodes, and the Raiders have set the stage for a future that has Fargas mentoring and grooming McFadden to become a franchise star with Michael Bush adding muscle and depth.
Next up: sign a player to fill out the 80-man roster. Don’t be surprised if they bring back camp arm Jeff Otis or Sam Keller, two quarterbacks released Thursday to make roster room for the last two draft picks to sign.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I have even more respect for Asomugha. The guy just proves how much of a team player he is
July 25th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
About time they released Jordan…I was almost feeling sorry for him
July 25th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
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July 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
About time we cut him… they were never going to get anything for him anyway
July 25th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Another PREDICTION:
Broncos will pick up JOrdan
and he will CRUSH the raiders defense.
Faida Nation, be prepared to go down and go down hard!
July 25th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Wagon the thing is, blitzing and not getting there gives up big yardage. I was having this same discussion with one of the posters here. In the Super Bowl last year SO MANY blitzes resulted in big plays including the winning TD. With the 2ndary we have, you would think they could cover long enough that our front four could get the QB.
July 25th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I won’t play for your pansy ass team. Never!
July 25th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Oakglenn,
If I my put in my opinion, I dont think it matters how good the Raiders secondary is if they cant generate a pass rush.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
With that said, I think the Raiders are set at all positions except at both lines…..too bad its a dire need & the really didnt do much to improve that need
July 25th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Oakglen, yes I understand that big plays happen when you beat a blitz. Yet last season we probably blitz’s less then any team in the league, and had a horrible run defense, if not blitz I believe we should crowd the box, and confuze the QB as are corners are both good enough to be on a island especially if we blitz.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
You make very astute observations Memo. The weakness in both lines will prevent the Raiders from making the playoffs, but I do believe the team will still be very much improved. I will be satisfied with eight wins this year.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
memo I can not agree more. I am really hoping that Kelly/Warren/Richardson/Burgess with situational rushers Edwards/Joseph and maybe even Sands will get the job done, without having to send the LB’s and 2ndary that often. I would like to see a safety or corner come every once in awhile tho.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
honestly are o-line was not that bad. Defensive line was upgrade threw subtraction as we lose the happy feet, slow to move a line warren sapp.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
I couldn’t agree more fellas.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
The Oline improved as the season went on. That is a MAJOR GOOD SIGN. Now hey, we are all sitting on the edge of our seats with Kwame out there.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Jordan was a regal pain in the ass. And the problem with Lamont was he SAID ALL THE RIGHT THINGS. But he didn’t DO all the right things. Screw him.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
yeah after he bit that towel like a dogg, i was done with his half stepping future bronco behind.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
he’ll forever be curtis martins back up
July 25th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Some more insite from Michael Lombardi. An article from Si.com called “Frankly Football: What every NFL team needs going into the season”
“For Oakland … A pro style passing game to go along with a very good running game. The Raiders ran the ball well last year, but had no passing game. If they can find a way to do both, they can surprise a few people.”
FRANKLY SPEAKING
• From Raiders coach Lane Kiffin’s press conference on the whereabouts of running back LaMont Jordan: “Like I said, that’s Al [Davis, Raiders owner] and LaMont’s agent on that and I’m out of that. They’re handling it so all the information I’ve got for you that was relayed to me is that they’re continuing to work on it. LaMont won’t be here and we won’t be fining him.”
“Why can’t the Raiders just cut LaMont and move on? Why does it have to be so difficult? Everyone in the NFL knows he is going to get cut and no team seems to be willing to trade for him.”
That is just what he had to say about the Raiders. He also said that he thinks LaMont would fit in go wit New Orleans as a power back.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/139.html
Jordan’s gone. =) no trade. =(
July 25th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
too bad, I wished we could’ve at least got a 7th round pick for LJ.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
i woulda took a mcchicken for him at this point.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
LaMont….A-M-F!!
July 25th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I think the only hope of a trade would have been for a project player who wasn’t cutting it on a team or an old over the hill player. There really was no chance a team would give up a 7th round pick for a hurt back up player. That said I hope he has better luck on his next team unless it is in the AFC west.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
its friday night yah diggg….we should pray that allthe main keys to are team stay heatlhy this preseason…
July 25th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
or not…
July 25th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
From Roto World:
Brandon Marshall-WR- Broncos
Brandon Marshall appeared out of shape at Broncos practice Friday, having to take a knee after nearly every other route he ran.
Marshall’s conditioning was questioned last camp as well, and his injury problems this off-season didn’t help. He obviously worked his way into shape last year, although we wonder what will happen while Marshall serves his suspension. He could find out the length of the suspension next week
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=438312
July 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Einstein, Oakglenn, among others: You got it right, Die hard broncos fan is just MR playing his idiot games.
Take Dakota’s advise and just stroll past these negative comments…why respond…you give them more fuel to play their childish games because they’re getting attention. If no one responded, they’ll eventually move on.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
broncos are mile high pansies….for lack of better words.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
the best player in Bronco Stadium this year (not on Raiders) will be Obama…
July 25th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Jerry Mac…
Are you at Denny’s, for the early-bird again or what??
July 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Turns out the Dallas Cowboys decided to waive Terry Glenn today. If the Dallas Dolphins don’t pick him up, do you guys think he is worth the 1.4 million risk to pickup?
July 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Marshall…post 251: Good post…related football talk, staying on target and purpose of this site. Talking Raider football and ignoring the idiots by “strolling by their comments.” Go Raiders.
July 25th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Man this is just a great start to TC huh? Now we hear good news about our first opponent. Marshall is lame! This is just getting better and better. (The Donkeys with zero WRs for Cutler).
July 25th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Defense is gonna be NASTY!!
July 25th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Too many Big Macs for Marshall. I wonder if he and Jordan will be making midnight runs to McDonalds soon?
July 25th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Hey “Diehard Bronco Fan,
I saw you had a lot of posts and you kept trying to hammer the Raiders. You said we would only win 5 games this year. I’m glad 2 of those wins will be against
“DUNGVER” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 25th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Oh snapez, Lechler might be 2nd string QB when the season starts
July 25th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Thanks Coach Cable.
Kwame Harris, first practice two false starts. Just what we need. Al is going to love you for it. The second coming of Sims..but bigger bucks.
July 26th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Great job kiffin puting a team together. cant wait to watch raiders beat the broncos!
July 26th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
The the will beat the stuffing out of the Donkeys and the Crappy City Creaps this season and after 08′ the Dischargers will be irrelivent. The Oakland Raiders are back and the NFL will just have to adjust!!!
July 26th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
2 days in lookin good RAIDERS ALL THE WAY BABY! We are gonna rock&roll this year,I can feel it nation.This is our time!
July 26th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Pay no mind to the haters,don’t give them any energy. We got it goin on, this defense is gonna pickand this offense is gonna pound. GO RAIDERS GO!