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Training camp, Day 2 (A.M. practice)

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, July 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Quick hits from Friday morning’s training camp practice:

– The defense had the offense frustrated for much of the padded session, putting the ball on the ground six times _ three times on the center exchange alone.

Two of the center-quarterback fumbles were with Jesse Boone at center and Marques Tuiasosopo at quarterback. The other fumble was by Andrew Walter, who, reminiscent of last year, didn’t go after the loose ball. He escaped the wrath of the coaching staff however.

“We went through practice one with no problems and I didn’t say anything, and (offensive coordinator Greg) Knapp says something to the offense about what a good job we did and he jinxed us,” coach Lane Kiffin said. “So we came out today and two of them were on the ground right away within 10 plays.”

Other fumbles were by wide receivers Jonathan Holland and Javon Walker, and running back Adimchinobe Echemandu.

– Strong safety Greg Wesley missed practice with back spasms. Those who didn’t practice also included Greg Spires (hamstring) and Grant Irons (hamstring). Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly took the practice off and worked on the cardio machines in the field house.

Wide receiver Ronald Curry was scheduled to take the practice off but came out on his own and practiced for a few sessions before removing his pads.

– Strong safety Gibril Wilson is already making his presence felt through two practices and may be the most significant of the offseason acquisitions when all is said and done, an idea I’ll explore in an upcoming Web exclusive column.

– Running backs were isolated in blocking drills against linebackers without an offensive lineman in front of them _ a drill which favors the defense. Running backs coach Tom Rathman watched closely as Darren McFadden allowed linebacker Malik Jackson to get past him after a quick engagement.

“Get your face on him on that pad, then strike and re-direct him,” Rathman said.

Jon Alston made a quick spin move during one turn to race past fullback Oren O’Neal, while Justin Fargas successfully slowed Sam Williams by taking the offensive and getting into his body. Echemandu successfully attempted the same tactic, with Williams escaping and Rathman urging the running back to “recover.”

– When Thomas Howard blew past running back Michael Bush, linebackers coach Don Martindale barked, “That’s what we’re going to bring this year.”

What, the Raiders are going to blitz?

At the drill’s conclusion, linebackers and running backs shook hands as if it were the end of a hockey game before moving on to a team session.

– Kiffin lauded the play of the defensive line, which made things difficult for JaMarcus Russell in terms of having time to throw the ball. Left tackle Kwame Harris, the free agent aquisition counted up on to start, had two false starts and some difficulty with end Kalimba Edwards.

– Tight end John Madsen has gained four more pounds. After seeing him drop a catchable ball from Russell on the sideline, you wonder if he could be another Randal Williams, the wide receiver who became a tight end and became too muscular to be a successful receiver.

– Holland made a nice diving catch of a low fastball by Russell for a big gain in a seven-on-seven drill. Jim Fassel, the former Giants head coach observing at the invitation of Kiffin, immediately asked his son John, “Who is that guy?”

Said John, a Raiders quality control coach: “Jon Holland. Second year, drafted him in the seventh round last year.”

– Who says the Raiders don’t know how to market? Players have been made available for interviews with a KTLA reporter _ an area the Raiders still consider to be their property.

– Sideline visitors included former Raider defensive tackle John Parrella, who brought some of his coaching staff and players from Valley Christian High School in Dublin. Valley will play a junior varsity schedule this year and add varsity next season.

Parrella is being assisted by former Raider end Josh Taves. Both men appear to have lost fifty-plus pounds since their playing days.

– Running back LaMont Jordan remained on the roster through the morning session but Kiffin said he expected a move to be made in the near future.

The Raiders practiced again with three quarterbacks, with punter Shane Lechler throwing a few passes to defensive backs in drills.

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294 Responses to “Training camp, Day 2 (A.M. practice)”

  1. SacRaider Says:

    Its about time.. Need the fix..

  2. RAIDER_RICK Says:

    I cant wait for the damn season to start!!!

  3. Florida Pete Says:

    i am numero 4

  4. Florida Pete Says:

    okay, 3 then…

  5. El Dirty Says:

    Just like we thought Harris is getting blasted! :(

  6. Bob Marley Says:

    Good job Jerry.

    I hope it´s ok to post other articles to compare what different eyes are seeing, so…

    Another take from sf.gate.com:

    “Raiders camp: Day 2.

    Raiders coach Lane Kiffin declared the defense a winner in the first of two practices Friday. One telltale sign was all those loose balls bouncing on the ground.

    The Raiders’ offense fumbled six balls during the morning workout at the Napa Valley Marriott. Three were botched center exchanges, three were forced by aggressive swipes.

    One of those came from new strong safety Gibril Wilson, the former City College of San Francisco star who was brought in to add muscle to the run defense and secondary. Javon Walker came down with a jumping catch downfield, only for Wilson to sock the ball free from behind. Cornerback DeAngelo Hall recovered the fumble.

    Safeties haven’t created many fumbles in years for Oakland. So far, Wilson is earning his $39 million keep.

    “Gibril really is bringing a good mentality to our defense,” Kiffin said. “He’s extremely physical, which is good to see. Our defense needs to see that.”

    Quarterback Marques Tuiasosopo fumbled two snaps from fourth-string center Jesse Boone. Andrew Walter lost the third snap, while receiver Jonathan Holland lost one catch and running back Adimchinobe Echemandu lost another ball.

    The penalty for all involved: one lap around the field, on the spot. Same goes for offside-movers Kwame Harris and Kalimba Edwards.

    New injuries: Safety Greg Wesley, a 10th-year veteran signed Tuesday, missed practice with back smasms. Such a quick injury brings back memories of Donovin Darius, a veteran pickup last year who limped his way to a cut-day exit.

    Converted defensive lineman Fred Wakefield left practice with an undisclosed injury and defensive end Greg Spires missed a second straight practice with a hamstring injury. Undrafted rookie receiver Marcel Reece and outside linebacker Grant Irons also sat out with a hamstring injuries.

    Jordan update: Kiffin said the LaMont Jordan will come to a close at some point today. The options are trade him (unlikely), let him practice (very unlikely) or release him (most likely).

    Practice highlights:

    Second-year defensive end Jay Richardson caught Darren McFadden from behind in the backfield on a play running to the opposite side. He also helped force Echemandu’s fumble despite double-team blocking. The right end job is his to lose.

    Nose tackle Gerard Warren forced a fumbled snap with a perfectly timed swim move. He also had what would have been a sack if hitting quarterbacks was permissable.

    During blocking drills, McFadden held his own against hard-charging middle linebacker Edgerton Hartwell. No easy task.

    The offense keeps going to safety-valve dumpoff passes to a running back underneath when nothing else opens up. Even the fullbacks are getting some action.

    Middle linebacker Kirk Morrison stuffed Justin Fargas with a burst up the middle. That’s the sort of improvement this run defense needs. …

    Center Jake Grove took the majority of first-team snaps, which is more about him catching up from a missed offseason than a depth-chart statement.”

    sfgate.com, David White.

  7. Nate Says:

    I’m still not convinced that our offense has improved that much from last year. We need a good #1 WR, which Walker is not (he’s a good #2). Time to find a Left Tackle as well.
    So much for Greg Wesley coming in and making a huge impact, unless sitting out with back spasms are the type of impact he was looking to give.
    Just Prove It, Baby!

  8. Die Hard Bronco Fan Says:

    Haha
    you myiopians are pathetic!

    Believe me, the Raiders won’t win more than 5 games this season. You guys are going down and going down hard!

    As long as AL DAVIS is around, you guys are destined to lose every season! Hahaha.

    Face it morons….the great Denver Broncos OWNS your asses! Cutler is going to teach you guys a lesson this season, losers! Hahahaha

  9. JMoney2 Says:

    how many recievers do you think they will keep and who?

  10. Florida Pete Says:

    so Walter escapes the wrath of the coaching staff after a fumble and “0″ effort at recovery…

    sounds like walter ain’t gonna make it…

    you only bitch when you give a rip…

  11. TEOFILO DIMAANO Says:

    lets steal boldin from the cardinals?? …. what u guys think???

  12. Dave Alvis Says:

    The Harris news is a little disturbing.

  13. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    my god where going to blitz thomas howard!!!about time we use are personell correctly

  14. Florida Pete Says:

    i don’t think Jam is gonna throw much this year anyway…

    Harris is there to be a road grader…

  15. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Jerry Mac…
    Great work, keep ‘em coming..

    Did, someone say lunch???

    http://www.chickipedia.com/ann-ceurvels/photosgallery/Ann01_609-jpg.html

  16. KoolKell Says:

    The O-line will be disadvantaged in practices because they are not allowed to cut their teammates.

  17. jeremy gunn Says:

    Kwame is scaring the hell out of me!!

  18. 408RAIDER Says:

    who left the door open?/ we got a coward a$$ donky fan in here!!

    yo die hard why not just die?

  19. Johnny Rebel Says:

    How did Mario Henderson look?

  20. Die Hard Bronco Fan Says:

    LT Harris? HAHAHAHAHA~

    you guys gonna SUCK big time. LOSERS!

    Go Denve Broncos!

  21. TEOFILO DIMAANO Says:

    hey donkey dude… u need to quit wid all the boo#$%^&….its only been one real day of practice and u runnin your mouth like we gon run all over your team!!! u need to worry bout your qb gettin taken out early in the game .. cu z den u aint got no game!!!!

  22. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Culter is going to wind up a average player, he couldn’t beat MTSU fof christ sake lol. Remember 34-20? Its going to get worse for the donkeys.

  23. Florida Pete Says:

    http://www.chickipedia.com/zhang-ziyi/

    i like asian food…

  24. vegas raider Says:

    Good point KoolKell, even still looks like our RB are going to be doing a lot of chipping on the left side (Harris)

  25. Die Hard Broncos Fan Says:

    Ok guys, I admit that smack was overboard, considering my team is no better off than yours this year.
    Actually I used to be a Raider fan until Elway started winning. Call it bandwagon if you must.

    I used to like you boys from Oaktown cause Al is such an innovator, but I live in CO and couldn’t take the heat from the locals.

    Long live the rivalry! Lets hope Al Davis doesn’t dump Kiffin like he did Gruden. Man you guys were tough that year after Al robbed the Bucs of the cash and picks!

  26. SacRaider Says:

    Wow, thats all you got bronco fan? “you’re going to suck.. Losers..” Good job. You don’t even have to say you’re a bronco fan. We can already tell by your intelligence.. You think the broncos did anything to improve themselves this season? You say we suck but we beat you last year.. What does that say about your team? Go back to brokeback mountain with your buddy Jay..

  27. Die Hard Bronco Fan Says:

    TEOFILO DIMAANO

    My Prediction: We are going to burry RUSSEL deep in the ground with some major hits and sacks this season, thanks to your starting LT Harris.

    You guys haven’t even addressed your Left Tackle position (the most important position in the NFL on the OL). You guys are going down….Russell is going to get injured, and your crappy ass BACK QBs going to choke even worse.

    Face it FAIDA NATION, you guys are going down and AL DAVIS is going to fire LAME KIFFIN and bring in another scapegoat to coach the pathetic loser nation. HAHAHAHA!~

  28. 408RAIDER Says:

    DH donkey smoocher STFU!!! nobody cares

  29. Blackholepriest Says:

    Don’t get too worried, it’s the second practice. Let’s see if Harris steadily improves. If we’re reading this after a couple of pre-season games, count me in on the worried line.

    Yeah! we’ll blitz but it must be effective, Howard blitzed several times last year but was largely ineffective, hopefully this year he’ll be much more aggressive with it, along with the rest of the LBer’s and safties.

  30. Die Hard Broncos Fan Says:

    And go Niners too! Their fans are so much more polite than you all. I just get too scared going to watch the Raiders in Colorado.

  31. MR Says:

    I like the 49ers. Screw the Raiders.

  32. Die Hard Bronco Fan Says:

    Hey BlackAnalPriest

    HARRIS was a BUST, and you guys signed up a BUST player to be your starting LT. Face it, you guys are done…history. Faida Nation is going to blow hard again, HHAHAHAHA~

  33. raider guy Says:

    You know, with all the updates and the optimism and stuff…this is my favorite time of the year.

  34. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Rat Season, opens 9-8-08..No limit…

  35. Thec Says:

    Hey its the discharger fan disquised as a bronco fan. You guys remember lasr year chocolate rain myopians guy. ringless chargers, we will win 3 more rings befor SD wins 1 hahahaha chocolate rain idiot.

  36. VARaider Says:

    My favorite quote so far, courtesy of Jason Jones..

    With the offense being careless with ball, the defense didn’t manage to pick off any of the Raider quarterbacks’ passes.

    Rookie safety Tyvon Branch came close but the ball bounced off his pads. Hiram Eugene tried to snag the ball, but it fell to the grass.

    Defensive end Derrick Burgess had an interesting take on the play.

    “If those were some dice you would have caught those (expletives),” Burgess yelled.

    He is hands down the coolest…

  37. Einstein Says:

    Myopians? Dude weren’t you a chargers fan last year? Another one of MR’s mulitple personalities?

  38. Die Hard Broncos Fan Says:

    Boy I sure hated losing Warren, and now we got nuthin in da middle. Can’t believe Al talked Shanny into a trade in the AFC West. Another reason to give the man hiz props. But no worries. If y’all Faiders start winning I’ll bust out my Villapiano jersey. Either way I gets minez!

  39. TEOFILO DIMAANO Says:

    rod smith just retired??? and cutlers still your qb?? say goodbye to your team!!!!

  40. Rick The Hunter Says:

    I kind of expected practice to be a lil sluggish for the offense.
    there’s a lot of new pieces on offense and they have to get chemistry and timing down in order to see real results. However
    I love what Im hearing about the Defense. Hit’em up Howard making plays is exactly what I expected and it comes as no surprise. I guarentee Howard will become an official Pro bowler (although I dont get caught up in pro bowl hype) along with Captain Kirk. I look foward to hearing about the offensive strides taking place in the next week or so. YA KNOW?!

  41. Thec Says:

    I wonder what that does to the mind playing all these diffrent people and personalitites? Sad, very sad.
    Myopian/rain guy you need help.

  42. Die Hard Bronco Fan Says:

    F*ck the Chargers but f*ck the raiders even more!

    You myopians are never going to playoffs as long as AL DAVIS is around. Thank you AL DAVIS! HAHAHAHAHA~

    Faida Nation, remember my PREDICTION:

    Russell gets injured, thanks to your starting LT Harris, then QB Walter/TUI comes in and you know the rest, HAHAHAHAHA

    We are going to win the division this season, and either Faidas or the Chefs will be on the bottom! HAHAHAHAHA!~

  43. Einstein Says:

    Yes Thec, very sad and somewhat disturbing. This guy used to be somewhat commical and fun to interact with and argue with. Now it’s kind of strange and creepy, dude has some SERIOUS issues.

  44. Bob Marley Says:

    Einstein…post 37.

    Exactly.

    Is it a coincidence that we had a “Giants fan” yesterday posting 1 out of every 5 comments and now we have a “Denver fan” doing the same?.

    Not to mention that he´s posting as me and other regulars.

  45. Thec Says:

    who does denver have playing WR brandon marshall is facing suspension, and Javon Walke….allmost forgot you guys got rid of Javon Walker.

    Kepp the liar marshall awy from mc donalds.

  46. vegas raider Says:

    Anyone pour any beer out for Rod Smith yesterday?? Good freakin riddance!!

  47. 408RAIDER Says:

    yo floppy donkey shlong lover

    Well own ur sorry a$ses on monday nite

    enough said

  48. no more infield Says:

    I know it’s way early but i haven’t read too many positive things about the o-line. From where I am it seem like Harris is struggling right now. Also, if Kelly supposedly, acording to Coach K., got three sacks and dominated yesterday then does that also mean that Gallery got beat three times and was dominated by his man. Burgess unstopable? What’s going on here? Just wondering…

  49. Thec Says:

    Einstien, Yes i am sitting hear laughing at your last post this guy is creepy but i fell sorry for chocolate rain guy charger fan. I bet the guy doesnt even watch football.

  50. Oakglenn Says:

    Bronco fan. Unbelievable. The greatest bronco fan of them all was that one guy who wore nothing but orange bronco boots and a barrel so other bronco fans could easily blow the guy in the lav. Ignore this moron. It’s probably just MR again, since the 9ers quit practice this am.

  51. RaiderMight Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    July 25th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
    The O-line will be disadvantaged in practices because they are not allowed to cut their teammates.
    ——–

    Very true. The real test is in 13 days. I will start worrying after the third pre-season game, if this is still an issue.

    Isn’t the third game when the starters are in the greater amount of time?

  52. Einstein Says:

    He isn’t a donkey fan, he is just a very disturbed individual. Last year he was a charger fan, remember the (myopians, chocolate rain, Tim Harris YMCA lover) diatribe? The cussing, etc… Yesterday StrahanManNY, and the many other mulitple personalities he has.

    Even though we might get upset with him, please don’t argue with him, he is special, and has a special disease. We must engage him with understanding and accpetance of his mental retardation. Just love for him and care for him, and appreciate his lack of mental process and capacity. Don’t refer to him as a retard, that is derogatory, just refer to him as special.

  53. Optimist Says:

    Oh my god! on raiders.com the picture of kiffin with JT the Brick shows Lane is wearing a non raiders shirt! i bet his job is on the line again. wait til the media sees this.

    so, NOT!

  54. Thec Says:

    This guy has a diffrent tone than MR, myopians dude you need lots of help or meds which ever you choose. you are sick, and I know playing all these diffrent people has affected your social skills….. try to get a grip man. see a shrink, talk to your mom, or pastor. You need to move on with your life I am seriously afraid you may hurt someone.

  55. Bob Marley Says:

    Welcome Gibril…we needed you man.

    “Wilson just might take someone’s head off.

    He throws his shoulder pads into every play. Kiffin likes it but admits Wilson’s play “borderlines right now on the safety of our other players” but wants Wilson’s style to ru b off on the rest of the defense.

    Wilson said when he signed with the Raiders he asked to play strong safety because he wanted to be near the ball.

    “I like to be physical,” Wilson said. “I don’t like to have guys get extra yards or anything like that. I’m a very physical guy and the other team knows it.”

  56. no more infield Says:

    In the third preseason game the starters usually play into the third quarter.

  57. Thec Says:

    einstien, post 52 = Priceless.

  58. Memo Says:

    Damn I love you Jerry. I want you to adopt me

  59. Bob Marley Says:

    Thec…it´s the same guy, that´s what Trolls do.

  60. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Some news , on Gibril included at…

    http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/

  61. RaiderKen Says:

    “He promised me,” said Peterson, referring to Dorsey, “and he’s going to lose his bet that he’s going to be here on time. Branden won the bet.

    “I think sometimes it shows a little bit about the character of the young man that he makes a commitment and stands by it.”

    LMFAO sounds like Dorsey and the Chefs are not on the same page.

  62. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Dang, Marley got to it 1st.

  63. Oakglenn Says:

    Having Wilson lay the wood to opponents is EXACTLY what this defense needs. Certainly Stew and Huff didn’t bring it.

  64. Thec Says:

    Marley, yeah i know its him but i hate to say it i am sitting here cracking up at this guy. I know he needs help but his schtick is very funny…..

  65. Thec Says:

    Wilson sounds like a RAIDER NATION member from the 70’s teams. He looks and sounds like he plays smashmouth, not this dainty sissy stuff. thats what I am talking about Wilson…. Want to see him come on a safety blitzfrom the left side against the dischargers and blast the S#!t out of rivers.

  66. Bob Marley Says:

    Thec…and the people in charge of this blog seem to love him stalking the readers, so whatever.

  67. TEOFILO DIMAANO Says:

    hey bronco fan.. u giys aint gon put a dent in nothin?? u mules r da ones dats gon be goin 4 and out!!!

  68. RaiderKen Says:

    If Peterson and Segal do not discuss and resolve the situation, and Dorsey is not in River Falls by 9 a.m. today, it would be the ninth time in the last 13 years a Chiefs first-round pick was a training camp holdout.

    If this was the Raiders the press would be all over us as a disfunctional front office. All I can say is Thank You Dmac, and Al for get n er dun!

  69. Kush Says:

    I agree that two of our big question marks right now are at LT(Harris) and #1 receiver(Walker).

    I agree and am going on record as saying that I seriously think we should make a run at Boldin from Arizona as our #1 receiver.

    For the amount of money we offered Walker, I’m just not seeing the leadership or commitment so far. So what if it’s only the second day of training camp. He should already have come into camp with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove.

    Boldin at number 1, Carter at number 2(he’s earned it) and Curry in the slot. As far as Kwame Harris, all we can do is pray.

  70. Einstein Says:

    We love our Special little Troll. Love him, care for him, nurish him. He is special.

  71. 909raiderlifer Says:

    I’m telling ya, With Wilson at S. Saftey, other teams RB’s & Rec’s are going to have their heads on swivels, be hearing footsteps and growing some gator arms. As soon as they start seeing Gibril, drop some timber on guys, hopefully reminiscent of the ways ol’ Jack did back when..

  72. Einstein Says:

    You know my Raider brothers, I don’t know about you, but I am so pummped up about this year. I am especially excited to see JRuss and DMac, our future of the franchise. For once, in a very long time, we have something real and solid to look forward to.

    I am still debating which jersey to get for the 2008 season, I could use some help from you guys in a decision, here is my list:

    1.Russell
    2. Burgess
    3. Aso (moved up my list just showing up to camp)
    4. Morrison

    Need some help, not sure which to get.

  73. Die Hard Broncos Fan Says:

    I gots minez!

  74. Bob Marley Says:

    Einstein…LOL.

  75. 909raiderlifer Says:

    **safEty**..ERRRRR..sorry, spell cops…

  76. KoolKell Says:

    The little multiple faqqot is playing Bob Marley today.

  77. TEOFILO DIMAANO Says:

    its obvious that the donkey fan is worried about our team?? he’s on our page??? he must have a lot of time on his hands to be spying on the team??? hey donkey… yourshort yellow bus is here!!!

  78. Oakglenn Says:

    Fellas this is a work in progress. No one said we got all the holes on this team filled this off season. At this point the defense is going to be playing better than the offense. We are going to need an upgrade at both OT positions. It’s just the way it is. Fortunately the QB position is solid.

    BTW, Andrew Walter fumbles a snap???? No, couldn’t be.

  79. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Einstein….

    Go w/ Aso..

    Save some $$$ for a M. Bush jersey also, will be a hot item soon IMO..

  80. KoolKell Says:

    Multiple is such a pathetic little creature. I guess no one will talk to him in real life, or even on this blog. So he pretends to be a credible regular to get some desperately attention, so pathetic.

  81. Bob Marley Says:

    KK

    It´s me right now, I saw on an earlier thread that you´re getting excited about the big fella…

  82. Oakglenn Says:

    exactly teofilo. Bronco fan is here??? What have they done since Elway left???? nothing. Who’s coming next to chime in about the Raiders, Detroit Lion and Az Cardinal fan??

  83. TEOFILO DIMAANO Says:

    hey einstein…. any one of those jerseys would be a CHOICE selection!!! i wouldnt know which one to pick also??

  84. Einstein Says:

    Really, KoolKell. I hear ya. It’s pathetic.

  85. Kush Says:

    My main concern is the LT position. If Jamarcus goes down, we look shaky at the backup QB position. Cable has his work cut out for him with Harris between now and the start of the season.

  86. Raider J Says:

    It’s too early to address the low life Bronco fan. I am concerned about Kwame Harris at left tackle. And Robert Gallery better be a force this season! We have the weapons, now it’s time to put it all together. RAIDERS!!!

  87. KoolKell Says:

    Bob,

    When you don’t refer to me by name, what phrase do you use?

  88. Einstein Says:

    LOL, Dimaano.

  89. Bob Marley Says:

    Kell, it’s me. Are you this paranoid all the time?

  90. Bob Marley Says:

    LOL at this Bronco fan trying to post here. We all know who it is. The Broncos do always find a way to beat us, though.

  91. TEOFILO DIMAANO Says:

    hey oak… shanahan’s dentures r gonna fall out when he cant stop our run!! …. even more… when he tries to throw it downfield??? come on people…. just stuff da run?? ease up on the penalties??? norcal stand up…. monterey, salinas,seaside…….is in the house!!!!!

  92. Bob Marley Says:

    KK

    Why give it away?…

    But it´s me, I once told you to get a hold of McFadden when he was looking for a home in the Bay Area.

  93. Bob Marley Says:

    Uh oh….

  94. Einstein Says:

    Now our special little troll is starting to post as me, how sad. What a special little guy, glad he looks up to me.

  95. KoolKell Says:

    The Real Bob Marley doesn’t waste his time with the silly nonsense that You little faq occupy yourself with 24/7, Troll.

  96. los angeles raiders Says:

    if harris is getting pancaked by kalimba edwards in train ingc amp its time to push the panic button

  97. Bob Marley Says:

    KoolKell, the freak is here..

    I posted 92….. but 89 and 90 are not me.

    Beware of the Troll folks.

  98. Bob Marley Says:

    Looks like he’s back, everyone, in case you were wondering why there’s so many Marley posts.

  99. Rick The Hunter Says:

    I have 1 question for everyone on this blog who responds to these termites who comes in here and ruffle feathers.

    WHY???
    I though you guys would’ve figured it out by now. Deep down in thier hearts they really are Raider Fans. If they were not fans then none of them or him would even know anything about this site. If they didnt know about Inside Bay that means that they went on the internet and Googled Oakland Raiders and thats how they discover our blog site. Look,, I couldnt tell you guys the name of any other team site if I had a gun to my head. You know why? Its because I could care less about another team not named the Raiders. So the next time one these termites decides to pop up on our site, think about it before you cramp your fingers up trying to swat’em away because deep down everybody is intrigued with the Raiders. Thats why they always have something to say about the Raiders even if its in the form of talking silly sh*t. YA KNOW?!

  100. Einstein Says:

    This idiot really needs a life. Has anyone tried to contact the website about this? It’s illegal, right?

  101. Einstein Says:

    He’s not a freak he is special. He is our special little guy.

  102. TEOFILO DIMAANO Says:

    fellas… my time is up .. i hate to go so early . but thats how da navy life is ….. especially on a carrier… but il be back fo sho… u guys stay up … keep up da good work…. time is ticking…. peas im out…

  103. Einstein Says:

    Rick The Hunter, because we have to defend our blog. We can’t just let the trolls run roughshod over the place. But if you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend they’re not here, be my guest.

  104. Einstein Says:

    Post 103 isn’t me Rick. It’s the troll. I don’t even know what the hell “roughshod” means.

  105. Bob Marley Says:

    Einstein, there’s no need for that. Rick was just trying to make a point.

  106. Einstein Says:

    It wasn’t me Bob.

  107. Einstein Says:

    It wasn’t me, Marley. It was the troll. What are you, anyway, Mr. Conductor in here? Do you always have to play dad in here?

  108. Einstein Says:

    Not playing this game, the real Einstein is outta here. Later nation.

    Bye bye special little troll.

  109. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah, there’s a persistent colony of cockroaches here.

  110. Bob Marley Says:

    Glad it wasn’t you, Einstein. Because again, Rick the Hunter was making a good point. I agree with him. We should ignore him. But some people in here are obviously incapable of it.

  111. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    Thomas howards gone be key, he’s coming on blitz’s look for turnovers, I’m go out on a limb a say probowl year. 6 sacks, 5 int, 110 tackles, 2 forced fumbles, 12 broken up passes.

  112. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    “marley dont shoot em.” lil wayne

  113. Einstein Says:

    But one last thing before I leave, troll boy, how’s the ebonics going today, partna???

    LOL.

    Have fun, guys. Have fun telling everyone how to live their lives, Marley. I mean, Dad!

  114. Bob Marley Says:

    Jerry McDonald…

    I hope you enjoy MR and his multiple postings, because pretty soon it could be just you and him in here.

    Post 92 was my last one.

    Have fun with our “special little guy” as Einstein calls him.

    Have a good one everyone, you too fake “Bob”.

  115. Bob Marley Says:

    Einstein, you really need to calm down, man. We already have Johnny Rebel. We don’t need another mouthy drama queen in here. You said you were leaving, so leave. You’re almost as bad as you know who.

  116. SpecialTroll Says:

    Hewwo everyone you silly myopians, I love the Giants , Broncos, and Chargers, and hate the Raiders, you here dat PARTNA? I gots minez. I gots no beef with white man.

    Please support me at my website http://www.thearc.org also listed in my name posting.

  117. Einstein Says:

    Ooh, look out. Now Marley’s threatening Jerry! Marley’s going to stage a walkout! LOL.

  118. Einstein Says:

    Ha ha ha, Special Troll, that’s good. We’re going to nail him, now!

    I WILL!

  119. KoolKell Says:

    All the troll wants to talk about is other posters. That’s how you know him. He knows sheit about football, and doesn’t discuss it.

  120. Special Troll Says:

    It’s too bad Mo Ron has to come in here and mess it up for everyone. Here we are, second day of the season, a Super Bowl season, at that, and troll boy is in here hogging all of the fame, as usual. I told you guys not to respond to him, yet you keep doing it anyway. Fine. Just remember when he starts his usual racist crap, don’t cry to me.

  121. Einstein Says:

    Uhm, Oakglenn, you forgot to change your name back… #120

  122. Blackholepriest Says:

    Jerry, if you can’t get this fixed I for one am done coming in here. I’ll give it to the start of the season after that you wont hear from me.

    Who can have a legitimate conversation? Concerning the team, which is what we come we come in here for, with this childish crap going on.

  123. KoolKell Says:

    I’m thinking this individual is either paralyzed from the waist down, or otherwise terrible isolated from society. Because he desperately needs out attention.

  124. Oakglenn Says:

    What’s up Nation! Just got here. This is my first post of the day. Anyhow, what’s the word from camp? I’ve read reports that the offensive line looks good. And, they haven’t even started their cut blocking, yet. I’m thinking that maybe we can be a hybrid offensive line, using both cut blocking and standard blocking? What do you guys think?

  125. Blackholepriest Says:

    I’m giving you one week, Jerry. Or I’m suing you.

  126. Bob Marley Says:

    LOL, Kell. I hear ya.

  127. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    buy a Gallery jersey

  128. Bob Marley Says:

    I think that’s an excellent idea, Oakglenn.

  129. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    i am getting a bush jersey as soon as they start selling them.

  130. los angeles raiders Says:

    the real oakglenn doesnt use words like hybrid and standard and what

  131. Oakglenn Says:

    Thank you, Bob. I was thinking about it all day at my babysitter’s house. I can’t go online when I’m over there. Mom’s orders. You know, my little porn problem. So anyhow, I’m over there thinking; If we use both cut blocking and standard blocking, we could throw off opposing defensive schemes. When you add that to the weapons we already have, I honestly think we’re unstoppable this year. Bet you the mediots will never say a word about it, though.

  132. KoolKell Says:

    STFU Troll, don’t speak to me you p.o.s.

  133. Die Hard Bronco Fan Says:

    Like I said, the Faida Nation is going to SUCK again as usual.

    Remember how excited you guys were last year about Kiffin? He only won 4 games.

    Remember how excited you guys were about Art Shell as ur coach? He got fired.

    Remember how excited you guys were about Norv Turner? He got canned.

    You guys always get excited, and then disappointed right after. You guys are PATHETIC.

    Watch the raiders lose again this year.

    PREDICTION: RUSSELL GETS INJURED, THANKS TO LT HARRIS.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA~

  134. Oakglenn Says:

    My babysitter made me a cake for my 31st birthday last week. Had a Raider helmet on it. It was awesome. I wish all of you could have been there.

  135. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    buy a moss jersey they are selling for $15 getting while they are hot. lol

  136. los angeles raiders Says:

    is bronco fan the same guy that was strahan teeth or whatever..s.ame person right??

  137. Bob Marley Says:

    Happy belated birthday, Oakglenn. And, I wish I could have been to your party, too. Sorry I didn’t call you back. Busy schedule. Camp’s just opened. Glad you had a good birthday though, buddy.

  138. Bob Marley Says:

    Probaby, Los Angeles Raiders. And, we know who it is. Just ignore him, man.

    Who do you think will be our breakout player this year, LAR?

  139. Bob Marley Says:

    “Probably”, I meant. Sorry.

  140. KoolKell Says:

    Bob Marley Impersonator,

    Do you have a girlfriend of anything, for godsakes?

  141. Bob Marley Says:

    You tell ‘em, Kell.

  142. SpecialTroll Says:

    OMG I AM IN RARE FORM TODAY. I NEED MY MEDS, CUZ I AM A F’N FREAK.

    Dude for real what is your problem? You has some serious issues man. You really don’t see it though do you? You just find this commical, but for real, you have some serious issues.

  143. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    Do you have any other avenues for conversation?

  144. Bob Marley Says:

    Of course he doesn’t have a girlfriend, Kell. Why do you think he’s here?

    Hey Kell, who do you think will be our breakout player this year? Do you think Tommy Kelly will have a good year?

  145. SpecialTroll Says:

    Just answer that troll, just explain to us why you do this?

  146. Die Hard Bronco Fan Says:

    Bob Marley,

    You typical Faida Fan. I bet all you do is smoke blunt and get high. You have no education, a typical high school drop out like all the rest of them faida nation losers.

    You know I am right and you are wrong. The Faida Nation always disappoints…all you guys ever do is think about the past raiders.

    Guess what morons? The past is history and the future is now…and ur future SUCKS. Myopians.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA~

  147. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    Don’t try to play me you little p.o.s.

  148. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    has anyone ever looked at Miller’s rookie stats compared to gates, gonzales, whitten,cooly,shocky? I think Miller will be our breakout player this season. His rookie stats are better than all the above mentioned probowl tight ends rookie stats.

  149. Special Troll Says:

    Special Troll, ignore the troll. Don’t engage him. What did I tell you guys? The more you engage him, the longer he stays. I stopped engaging Mo Ron weeks ago. I just ignore him, now. I wish the rest of you would do the same. Let’s talk Raider football! Camp’s open! I WILL!

  150. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    You know you’re a sicko, don’t you?

  151. SouthFlaRaider Says:

    Great job Jerry, would like to hear some tidbits on Michael Bush. Guess we will know more on August 8th.

  152. Bob Marley Says:

    Uhm, Oakglenn, buddy, you forgot to change your screenname back. Comment # 149.

  153. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    In the back of your mind you realize you’re a sicko, don’t you?

  154. los angeles raiders Says:

    for our sake im hoping its tommy kelly, or jamarcus…” who is that Kid holland” gets 100 catches would be a nice story

  155. SpecialTroll Says:

    Dude, just answer the question. Why do you do this? You seriously have some mental problems if you find this entertaining. You have been doing this for over a year now. That is just wierde man.. very very strange.

  156. Bob Marley Says:

    You tell ‘em, Kell.

    Kell, it’s really me. Who’s your breakout player this year? What excites you about this season? I think it’s going to be McFadden.

  157. SpecialTroll Says:

    ANSWER THE QUESTION TROLL.

  158. Tonio Says:

    With all the “dropped” balls.. it’s good to hear that not one came from DMC

  159. Oakglenn Says:

    Oh, not he’s posting as Special Troll. This guy is sick!

  160. los angeles raiders Says:

    Im confused now..I dont know who is who..

  161. Tonio Says:

    Or Russell for that manner…

  162. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    I think the breakout player of the year will be your psychiatrist!

  163. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    Well, looks like MoRon has returned. Well, if you wouldn’t talk to him, we wouldn’t be having this mess here. I’m looking at you Huff24. You want to talk to whoever, well, now look at the mess.

    You have to ignore him. The Real Oakglenn is done posting for the day.

  164. Oakglenn Says:

    Everybody, the troll impersonator is now posting under the name, “Special Troll”. I know it’s not him. I don’t know who was originally “Special Troll”, but I know the person posting as him now isn’t him. Stop engaging Mo Ron, everyone. Just talk football. I WILL!

    I WILL!

  165. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    sick sick sick, raider haters in here, get a life, get a job, get a girlfriend, go to the gym, play video games, read a book, watch a movie, buy a dog, go to church, dont have babies. To all u double posters.

  166. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    Don’t you have anything else going in life other than impersonating people on this blog?

  167. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    mcfadden o.rookie of the year. probowl –> morrison, burgess,aso,hall,miller,lechler

  168. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    Nite All.

  169. los angeles raiders Says:

    I have a fix to this whole problem..there has to be some kind of ignore button that can be created to choose who’s post you want to read

  170. SouthFlaRaider Says:

    It’s funny how everyone loves McFadden now, three months ago everyone wanted Dorsey or Ghoulston. Run DMC is going to light it up. RaiderNation is strong down here in South Florida. The Dolphins are the gayest team in pro sports period. Even their colors are gay.

  171. los angeles raiders Says:

    block the ips some how

  172. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    so no injuries yet that good.

  173. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    In fact, Huff, when I contact Jerry today I’m going to tell him about you as well as Mo Ron. I’m taking legal action against all of you. I’m sick of you guys ruining my blog.

  174. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    mcfadden supporter since day one baby. me and dakota are the only ones I remember always on mcfaddens wagon.

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  176. los angeles raiders Says:

    dorsey is still holding out…sands and kelly …lets fuc@%# GO!

  177. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    I’m contacting Jerry today about blocking IP’s and having a registration system. I’m going to tell him straight up: Look, as*hole, this is my blog and I want the trash cleaned out! Let me handle it, guys.

    I WILL!

  178. los angeles raiders Says:

    i SAID GET LONG IF NOT DMAC

  179. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    true i said that also haha, but everyone had long top 3.

  180. Bob Marley Says:

    So, Mcfadden’s wagon, you think McFadden will be our breakout player? So do I. I’m really excited about this season.

  181. SouthFlaRaider Says:

    MCfaddenswagon, I was screaming that same thing in March. A lot of the bloggers here wanted Dorsey. I remember a couple of you guys. I’m just glad we took him. He is a gamebreaker and will bring it to the next level and to the Black Hole. Wish I could be there to celebrate it with Raider Nation. I will have to wait to witness it down here in Florida. I can’t wait for that game.

  182. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    They’ve tried it but Mo circumvents it. LA you can’t cry to daddy. We’ve brought this problem on ourselves by engaging this tool. Everyone HAS to ignore him. When you ignore him he DOES GO AWAY.

    There are still a couple of posters here who think its fun to engage him. I’m the point guy here, because he posts as me more than anyone because I see thru his garbage and have told countless other posters to ignore him.

  183. Bob Marley Says:

    The only thing I’m worried about is that we still always find a way to lose.

  184. SouthFlaRaider Says:

    Although I think the Miami cheerleaders are hotter!

  185. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    You know squat about the game.

  186. MR Says:

    hahahahahaha. It’s so much fun to post as marley and oakglenn and ruin everything. screw the raiders!!!! Go niners!!!!!!!!

  187. Bob Marley Says:

    Oakglenn, you can start by ignoring him yourself, buddy.

  188. Bob Marley Says:

    Afternoon, MR.

    So, who’s your breakout player this year?

  189. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    Can’t you act like a man, and speak for yourself?

  190. Oakglenn Says:

    thanks phony Bob. I do ignore that imbecile.

  191. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    Yeah he’s going to bring the excitement, I want to see him in real time against NFL players, and see if he has that burst he had in college, to blast into the secondary. I think learning under fargas would be good for him, because fargas is a small guy yet isn’t afraid to take a hit or deliever one, so hopefully Mcfadden will learn to put the head down and keep the legs moving.

  192. MR Says:

    My breakout player, Marley?

    I’ve got to go with Kiffin. He’ll be breaking out of here by week 4, with Al’s money.

  193. Tonio Says:

    w/ people using the blog from several sites… blocking ips isn’t the answer… and we don’t need jerry to police the board… … if you ignore the ignorant…they’ll eventually disappear… it’s that simple. They’re pining for attention …and easily getting it…

    “you don’t sell drugs…people buy drugs” Chris Rock

  194. SouthFlaRaider Says:

    Good point Marley. Things like botch snapps that are fumble losses, too many penalties especailly false starts “Number 76 on the Offense”, too many first down runs by the Troll, LT. I can go on and on. But just like a lot us in here, I feel something special about this team and for our future.

  195. MR Says:

    Alex Smith. this year he is going to have his best year as a pro. Jamarcus is going down to injury.

  196. Bob Marley Says:

    Just what I’d expect you to say, MR.

    Oakglenn, you’re not ignoring him when you refer to him in 3rd person. That’s as good attention as any kind.

  197. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    In the back of your mind, you know you’re pathetic, right? I know you’re having fun, but in your quiet moments, you know you’re pathetic, right?

  198. Tonio Says:

    a Solid 8-8 would be a success… just like Grudens first 8-8… that followed a crappy 8-8… from there it’s 10 plus wins for a time to come…

  199. SouthFlaRaider Says:

    My cousin from Redwood City is coming down here next week, I need to tell him to pick up a McFadden jersey for me from The Raider Image. Does anynone know what they run out there? $200?

  200. MR Says:

    Looks like the troll’s posting as me, too. #195 isn’t me, people. Considering the pro whiner garbage, I’m guessing it’s Oakglenn. That’s right, everyone, the same Oakglenn who constantly complains about people posting under other peoples’ names. The same Oakglenn who tells everyone to ignore the trolls (and me, for that matter), yet can’t do it himself.

  201. MR Says:

    19-61, 19-61, 19-61, the Raiders are a hopeless rudderless mess. Take that Oakglenn and Marley and Kook-kell and all the rest of you losers.

  202. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    Deep down inside, you know you’re pathetic right?

  203. Bob Marley Says:

    Oakglenn, how about you ignore the trolls for a change, and tell us who you think our breakout player will be this year? You’re the one always telling us to ignore the trolls and talk football, Oakglenn. And if you notice, that’s exactly what I’m doing. So, let’s talk football, buddy.

  204. MR Says:

    Oakglenn just got Marley’d.

  205. MR Says:

    I’m really a Raider fan. I really am. I’m just here to bring attention to how bad the Raiders are, how bad their organisation is with Al running the show and I’m going to post as Kook-kell, Marley, oakglenn and others to prove how much of a Raider fan I really am.

  206. MR Says:

    Mr. “ignore the trolls, I wish the mods would do something about posting under other people’s names” himself, Oakglenn, just posted as me again. # 205.

  207. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    You know It’s takes quite an effort to ignore your sub-conscious. You can only hide from it for so long, you know that dont’cha?

  208. SouthFlaRaider Says:

    Here’s my wildcard breakout player. Arman Shields. Just kidding although this guy is a sleeper. McFadden all the way. Peace out Raider Nation, time to go and get some Italian food from Maggiano’s.

  209. MR Says:

    This is why nobody takes you seriously, Oakglenn. Do you realize how many people have noticed that the “trolls” are only here when you are?

  210. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    florida, they run like 225 tax included

  211. MR Says:

    I guess no one fell for the fact that I am posting as myself, Marley and Oakglenn along with SpecialTroll. You guys are getting smarter. It’s just Al who is getting dumber. Signing Kwame Harris?? What a waste.

  212. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    You’re sooo stoopid. I said you identify troll by their conversation, know all you can ask is who the breakout player will be. Weak.

  213. SouthFlaRaider Says:

    Thanks Wagon, maybe I’ll stick with ebay, I got my Jamarcus for $60, authentic. Peace out man.

  214. KoolKell Says:

    I was starting to get the feeling it was Oakglenn pulling all of this crap.

  215. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    The Real Marley would have been out of here 2 hours ago, fool.

  216. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    Mr. seriously i don’t mind you that bad when you actually talk football. Its just when you flood the blog with rants that it doesnt give anyone else room to manuever threw all the maneur.

  217. MR Says:

    shut up KOOK. At least some of the other posters bring some value to this blog. You just whine.

  218. KoolKell Says:

    Now you want to post as me now. You little P.O.S

    lol

  219. KoolKell Says:

    Cheaper seats means more thugs will be at the games. That means more aggressive security. That means people getting slammed to the ground by rogue rent a cop thugs for no reason, all day long. Enjoy the season, everyone.

  220. SpecialTroll Says:

    You really know you have some issues right?

    From a man to a man, MR, Troll, myopian, whatever you are, doing this is really kind of sick. You have a metnal problem and really need to check yourself. It’s very strange dude, and very creepy. You have some deep issues..

  221. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    winning cures everything

  222. Bob Marley Says:

    You tell ‘em, McFadden’s wagon.

    Kool Kell, about ticket prices and security, I hope you’re wrong. But that sounds like a sign of the times.

  223. KoolKell Says:

    Marley Impersonator,

    Marley would have been out of here 2 hours ago. But you can’t can you? You need the pathetic attention, don’t you?

  224. Jessie Jackson Says:

    Who wants a mustache ride?

  225. SpecialTroll Says:

    Anyone wanna take a bet that MR is between the ages of 29 and 37?

    My guess is 34.

  226. Fans Against Trolls Says:

    Now you want to impersonate KoolKell too, you little faqqot.

  227. Rick The Hunter Says:

    Einstein,,

    Its not about burying my head in the sand. Its about paying attention to whats going on with the Raiders. You gotta understand that these termites are probably kids on summer vacation from school who sit at home all day with nothing else to do. I dont think its a coincidence that we get these clowns poping up every year around this time. But grown men shouldnt get too worked up by some young punks who have nothing else to do. Im a 33yr old grown ass man who wouldnt waste time in a keyboard fight with some clown typing silly sh*t on a computer. When my Lady starts nagging the hell outa me, I dont go tit for tat with her, I simply hit the imaginary mute button in her and tune her out and she shuts the hell up. Trust me bruh,, if these clowns really had a problem with Raider fans they wouldnt be on computer talking sh*t, they would do it face to face with a Raiders fan, but I dont think they’re willing to take a real life ass beating. All Im saying is when you come across a termite on this site, dont feed them wood and I guarentee you they will die and fall off this site.
    Its all good brotha! YA KNOW?!

  228. Fans Against Trolls Says:

    Impersonator,

    Some fans won’t put up with your garbage, you little P.O.S

  229. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    You have to ignore MoRon. He’s obviously NOT a Raider fan, he’s here to cause problems, end of story.

    McFaddenswagon, don’t even engage him, otherwise, this is what we have here, and everyone blames ME.

  230. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    gotta agree with Rick the Hunter here.

  231. Tonio Says:

    see 193 Rick…totally agree…

  232. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    You guys this is not fifty people making a mess here. IT’S ONE OR TWO PEOPLE. IGNORE THEM.

  233. mcfaddenswagon Says:

    agreed

  234. Fans Against Trolls Says:

    I won’t ignore impersonators, I’ll jump right in their arses.

  235. RaiderKen Says:

    What the F is going on? Is this romper room?

  236. Die Hard Bronco Fan Says:

    All of the experts are predicting that McFadden is going to be a BUST~! HAHAHAHAHA

    According to Baldinger, you guys are going to REGRET drafting McFadden and passing up on DORSEY.

    That was soo retarded.

    You guys are HISTORY. Say good bye, Faida Nation!

    Hit Rock Bottom once again. HAHAHAHAHA~

    Its all about them BROCNOS baby!

  237. Fans Against Trolls Says:

    Fans come here to exchange ideas about the Raiders. It’s impossible if you don’t know who you’re talking to.

    Sometimes they have to be flushed, sometimes the flushing is long, but there’s really no blog until they’re flushed and normal conversation can continue, sorry.

  238. SpecialTroll Says:

    Issues man, you have some serious issues. Get a life loser. PARTNA!!

  239. Fans Against Trolls Says: