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Training camp, Day 3

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, July 26th, 2008 at 7:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Quick hits from the Raiders’ lone practice Saturday:

– It was probably to be expected after the aerial display featuring JaMarcus Russell the previous evening, but the Raiders came back to earth Saturday afternoon in a snappy practice that was wrapped up in under an hour and 40 minutes.

Things were much more difficult for the near-rookie, as Russell mixed in some nice balls with several that were broken up and nearly intercepted, as well as one badly thrown pass late over the middle that free safety Michael Huff read perfectly and snared on a dive.

Coach Lane Kiffin said he was more interested in watching Russell convert the routine plays than the sort of Star Wars show he put on Friday night.

“We’re not going to coach those special throws that he makes where he’s running over there and he throws back and makes those great throws. That’s who he is and very few people can do that,” Kiffin said. “But those happen one time a game, maybe two times. We’ve got to get him to do everything right, the little things, the little completions and the timing of everything.

“That’s all the stuff that wows the fans and people watching but that’s not what makes you a good quarterback. A good quarterback plays with great discipline, he takes care of the ball and he throws things on time. We’re going to have to get that going with him. He’s continuing to improve on it. We’re giving him a lot of reps. We’re wearing him out on purpose for conditioning, not just his arm but his body.”

Said Russell about what was important: “The small detail things. When you pay close attention to that, then things will be better for you instead of being Superman all the time.”

– During one seven-on-seven sequence, Russell was nearly intercepted by DeAngelo Hall while looking for Johnnie Lee Higgins along the sideline _ a pass that could have been a defensive touchdown. His next pass, intended for tight end Tony Stewart, was tipped in the air and nearly intercepted by Sam Williams.

– Two plays later, Marques Tuiasosopo, who also threw well Friday night, was intercepted by linebacker Robert Thomas on a pass intended for Jonathan Holland.

– In a team sequence, Russell fared better when on back-to-back throws. Drew Carter made a difficult, physical catch with Chris Johnson draped all over him on a 12-yard out, and Russell followed it up with a touch lob for 20-plus yards to tight end John Madsen in stride.

– Early in practice, with the running backs breaking out of one drill and heading toward another at the horn, Kiffin threw a high pass which nearly caught an unsuspecting Darren McFadden right in the face guard, with McFadden reaching up at the last second to knock down.

At the conclusion of practice, Kiffin was talking to an assistant coach only to be nearly struck by a Shane Lechler skyscraper. It was caught by Rashad Baker.

“Was that Shane or the JUGS machine?,” Kiffin asked as he went to the podium to speak to reporters. When told it was Lechler, Kiffin said, “Don’t think he didn’t do that on purpose.”

– Rookie receiver Arman Shields, who has had some impressive moments through the early sessions, incurred the wrath of offensive coordinator Greg Knapp for a half-speed route.

“C’mon rook. Break on it,” Knapp barked. “When you break on it, you might want to go toward the ball and not off the field. You’ve got to focus when you’re tired.”

– Running backs coach Tom Rathman was instructing running backs how to stop in their tracks in the middle of a zone then break outside to get open underneath. He used Justin Griffith to demonstrate how it was done before turning to second-year fullback Oren O’Neal and McFadden.

O’Neal ran the route well enough, but didn’t look up in time and Russell’s pass glanced off his hands.

“Gotta have it, `O,’ ” Rathman said.

Next was McFadden, who ran into the middle and then peeled off without stopping first.

“No, sit first. You’ve got to sit first,” Rathman said.

– Left tackle Kwame Harris missed practice with a sore lower back and is expected back Sunday morning. In his place, Paul McQuistan, who has been seeing time at left guard, moved outside to tackle. Also playing left tackle were Seth Wand and Mario Henderson, who is competing with Cornell Green on the right side.

Raiders tackles have had difficulty slowing the charge of Derrick Burgess (almost always on the left side, a few snaps on the right) and Kalimba Edwards from the outside. Kiffin conceded it is that area where Harris will need to get up to speed.

“He’s been a better run player for us so far,” Kiffin said. “We got some things in the pass protection going back to the left side — he hasn’t been there for a while — that we’ve got to work out, that (Tom) Cable’s working on with him. We got a lot of hopes for him, and we’re going to need him.”

– The Raiders appear to be running the ball well and crisply with Justin Fargas, McFadden and Michael Bush, although until they face a team in a different uniform, it will be tough to tell how good they really are.

– Linemen who false start have been told to take laps around the field, with McQuistan and Brandon Robb among those to make the circuit Saturday.

– Rookie end Trevor Scott has had some difficulty disengaging and making his presence felt a pass rusher. A converted tight end, Scott is listed at 6-foot-5, 255 pounds and actually looks smaller out of uniform.

One one play, with Louis Rankin breaking free, defensive coordinator Rob Ryan yelled, “C’mon Trevor, you’ve got to hold that edge!”

“It’s definitely something that takes getting used to,” Scott said. “Coming from college to the NFL, there’s really no comparison. Guys are just phenomenal, and the O-linemen have great feet, and that’s where coach (Keith) Millard is really telling me to hone in on my techniques and trust my technique and have my technique beat theirs. Use agility and quickness and try to get around them.”

– Huff, sometimes invisible while lost in among the bigger players at strong safety, has been conspicuous not only with his playmaking, but his enthusiasm for playing free safety.

“I’m out there running around, having fun, make Gibril (Wilson) take on all the tackles and guards and fullbacks and all that,” Huff said. “I can stay back there and make plays.”

Huff is doing a good job reading the offense, but is having a hard time figuring out his weight pattern. He said he tried to bulk up to last year and finished the season at a skeletal 193 pounds. Now that he’s a free safety, he is up to 205.

“I know it’s strange, but I feel quick out there, real fast,” Huff said.

– If Tommy Kelly is as good as the Raiders seem to think he is, that $18.125 million guaranteed won’t seem so bad after the $22 million guaranteed Glenn Dorsey got from the Kansas City Chiefs.

It was just a day or two ago that Chiefs exec Carl Peterson was spouting his usual nonsense about Dorsey’s contract demands, only to cave in and pay what the market demanded he pay.

– Kelly has been putting in overtime on the cardio machines after practice, working on getting his weight down. He has been one of the last players to leave the field house.

– Safety Greg Wesley (back spasms) and linebacker Grant Irons (hamstring) missed practice and are day-to-day. Defensive end Fred Wakefield (flu-like symptoms) was back at practice and even played a few snaps inside at defensive tackle.

– If Al Davis is the kind of guy who worries about these things, he hates the idea of LaMont Jordan joining New England, where he could join Randy Moss and show up the Raiders by putting up big numbers, and even warned his agent to make sure he went somewhere else.

More logically, Davis is pleased to see Jordan wind up in a place where he is buried behind Lawrence Maroney and Kevin Faulk, putting him only one rung above the Fargas-McFadden-Bush mountain he faced in Oakland.

– The Raiders have a double session today with the first practice at 9 a.m. and the second at 7 p.m.

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327 Responses to “Training camp, Day 3”

  1. 408RAIDER Says:

    that was eazy

  2. SCRaid Says:

    1st!

  3. coinman Says:

    not finding any confirmation to rumor re: dmac

  4. SCRaid Says:

    Had to try.

  5. OaklandRaider4Life Says:

    5

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  7. silverandblackchef Says:

    ok 408 now id like a new car…lol

  8. OaklandRaider4Life Says:

    I’m really worried about the O-LINE!

    :(

  9. J.T Money Says:

    Whats up Nation One day at a time.One practice at a time WE WILL be a PLAYOFF team this YEAR! One love RAIDER NAION!!!!

  10. no more infield Says:

    Looking forward to first game. A rare chance to see a dynasty from it’s infancy…

  11. OldGuy Says:

    First!

  12. 408RAIDER Says:

    I like the way Kiffin is thinking….

    ufck jordan hell get hurt again

  13. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    OldGuy — better check your glasses. Those are two 1’s side-by-side.

  14. coinman Says:

    ok…so maybe the o-line will be adequate, but if harris is underperforming AND complaining of a sore back already, i think it’s time to start combing the league for someone’s overpaid lt with maybe a year or two left in him. let’s not be thinking about this at the start of the preseason, please!!!

  15. 408RAIDER Says:

    Silverandblackchef Says:
    July 26th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
    ok 408 now id like a new car…lol

    ………………

    sup wit Silverandblackchf’s new car

  16. K-Rock Says:

    From the SFGate article on today’s practice…

    THE BAD

    ** Don’t blame bad officiating for the offensive line’s woes: there aren’t any refs at practice yet. The line had another three acknowledged false starts, with Cornell Green guilty on at least two others. Some if it has to do with the constant rotating of centers, but Raiders coach Lane Kiffin said this has to get better: just wait until there’s crowd noise.

    ** Speaking of the offensive line, the pass protection struggled mightily for a second straight day. Russell was forced to scramble out of a collapsed pocket four times and was touched for sacks another three times. The tackle play has been particularly problematic.

    THE MUNDANE

    ** Left tackle Kwame Harris sat out with a lower back injury one day after a terrible practice (three false starts, multiple sacks allowed). he was replace by Paul McQuistan, who had just as much trouble.

    ……………………………….

    Russell’s struggles will be directly linked to the o-line. Maybe Harris will learn how to block before the season begins.

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  18. coinman Says:

    harris sounds like a role-playing back-up. we have too much potential, and too good a qb, to be satisfied playing these kinds of games with the lt position and our qb’s safety. we can trust in cable, but not expect him to make a “silk purse out of a sow’s ear”. come on, al, let’s get serious here. and where is tommy trojan, who reassured me that we could blow off the line until late in the draft and still have a good line because of the “line depth” of this particular draft? (he got mcfadden). was he some kind of enemy agent?

  19. ctraidersfan Says:

    I don’t necessarily post all to often on here, but I believe that we need to be really concerned about out left tackle situation. JMac is going to get crushed if Harris does not start blocking. I don’t care what kind of running game we can get out there, by the way it should be awesome, Harris does not start blocking it will be all for nothing. We need a more balanced offense this year to really be able to win games.

  20. VaRaider Says:

    Harris better learn how to block before the season starts.

  21. coinman Says:

    maybe harris will grow into his position as some have suggested. but if he doesn’t? all i’m saying is, we need a plan B and, at this point, we don’t have one…

  22. VaRaider Says:

    gallery has to be better than harris at lt. i have not seen much film on harris. but from the way it sounds we might as have al davis in there blocking at lt.

  23. 408RAIDER Says:

    they still cant cut… harris needs 2 man up in cable i trust….

  24. Hell Raiderrrs Says:

    This maybe a dumb question….But what is the big difference between run blocking and pass blocking? How can a guy excel at one and not be able to perform the other?

  25. coinman Says:

    cable’s efforts were great last year, but he’s still human…

  26. dh Says:

    ctraidersfan, JMac is author of this awesome blog, I can’t imagine how bad Harris would have to be for Jmac to get crushed!

    Oh, and….

    LAST!

  27. Runrun Says:

    We are fd with this piss pore Oline:( Al is a moron 4 not getting good oline!

  28. coinman Says:

    Dh: oh, technicalities…Ct’s point is still well taken.

  29. VaRaider Says:

    we should of paid for a good lt instead of walker.

  30. ctraidersfan Says:

    My bad JRuss

  31. MaineRaiders Says:

    First!!

  32. R8dercain Says:

    Maybe were gonna have to take a look at Mario Henderson on that left side….But K. harris is being paid to much to just be a back up…

    Lets revisit this Harris situation after the 1st cuople of pre-season games

    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!

  33. coinman Says:

    R8: by then, it may be too late…

  34. VaRaider Says:

    damn i hope cable can make harris a pro bowl player this year.

  35. VaRaider Says:

    not sure if cable can make chicken salad from chicken sh*t tho

  36. coinman Says:

    JR: i’m happy enough to go with the team as is, except for one position. that does not make me mr. maybe you are mr…

  37. james sanos Says:

    i questioned bringin in harris before. im questioning it even more now.

  38. coinman Says:

    JS: so did i, thinking that o-line is what we needed in the draft. since we got mcfadden, i’m in support of him. but i really hoped that by now, after off-season activities, etc. harris would not be such a glaring weakness, just a question mark.

  39. 408RAIDER Says:

    dont start with yh MR stuff… speak o the devil and all

  40. I WON'T Says:

    Sorry about the Javon testing positive for pot thing,..got the wrong info,…nobody’s right all the time,…but I’ve got new word from the island,…Kiffin still gone before Niner game,…this is in stone,…Kiffin is gagged legally, has to keep his yapper shut,…it’ll break national by next week,…remember who told you.

  41. Marcofromda510 Says:

    The difference between run blocking and pass blocking. For the line, it depends the scheme(spell check). The system we use, the zone blocking scheme, the backside of the line is assisgned to an area, not a particular man. So who ever tries to penetrate the line, is picked up by the guard and tackle. The Strong side will usually have their own assignments to follow depending on the play and defence they run against. This is run blocking in the zone blocking system from what im familiar with. Pass protection, the line men step back in a 2 point stance and use their hands to slow the rush and provide as much time as possible.

  42. Bob Marley Says:

    Yeh, no kidding, Rebel. Take a chill pill, man.

  43. Oakglenn Says:

    Marley’d!!!

    Boo yah!

  44. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Marcofromda510 is MR.

  45. Marcofromda510 Says:

    I just got my McFadden jersey last week, for $70 at my barbershop, authentic.

  46. coinman Says:

    and i guess that ends the discussion about the left tackle position…

  47. Marcofromda510 Says:

    I just found out the Raider Nation Celebration is free this year, anyone going? I can’t wait to get a good look at the offence.

  48. MVH Says:

    The Kifin quote about Russell making those big plays and long thrwos once or twice a game is the same thing he said before.

    Good for him. i think its more about resource mangement than all out assault with the super weapons to win.

    Wisely they see predicated on controling the clock and the game.

    BUT if necessary, its good to know we have a better chance of making those big plays now when we have to.

    Awesome!~

    If y’all get bored, made sum updates and as usualy, fresh material at http://www.raidernationstation.com

    Finished the Defensive side in the “Silver and the Black” series.

    Last article is on the spot with the most to improve. The DT’s.

    Also new stuff on how the Broncos 12th overall Ryan Clady may be signed, but he’s no lock for Left Tackle.

    At least right away…

    Hope you all are having a great week end and try not to get too erratic out there tonight!

    Look out for one another.

    Right now, we’re all we’ve got.

  49. VoldemortSupporter Says:

    We’ll win the division, playoffs are guaranteed

  50. MVH Says:

    Jeez mah-neez, I’d like to see Sma Williams have a break out Pro Bowl year.

    wouldn’t hat prove everybody wrong about Al keeping him?

    I really don’t think it’ll happen, but it would be great for the D…

  51. RaiderTay Says:

    There are some concerns on the O’Line and it sounds like Kiff is aware of them and is trying to resolve it. Play action and a quick release should help The Pass blocking.

    If they cant sure up the tackle that means that you cant release the RBs as an outlet. They have to stay in and block. Considering this I thought that its interesting that they seem to be doing a lot of practice with the RBs pass blocking.

    Where is the Raider Nation Celebration?

  52. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    Repost:

    Regarding internet rumor-mongers…

    Don’t want to name names, but a multi-name-using poseur who’s initials are IWILL (now IWON’T) happened to write in here the other night that Javon Walker had tested positive for ganj (among other bad news). He also said Anquan Boldin was coming for a visit the next day (one of my personal pre-Draft dreams!). Of course, nothing in his post was true, he only wanted to stir the pot (pun intended).

    Proving once again…not only is he not a true fan of the S & B, but he isn’t even close to being a real “insider.” One thing’s for sure — if an injury (or any major issue) were to befall a player for the Raiders, Jerry McD or Jason Jones would be all over it, and we would’ve heard of it through more respected sources than AOL message boards.

    Don’t believe the hype until it’s confirmed true!

  53. i dress in black Says:

    The pass protection is troubling. I saw enough of Harris while at SF to have my doubts about him coming over. Lets be clear, he has always been a serviceable run blocker, Frank Gores numbers will give you insight to what we can expect from him in that area. This may be the reason that Cable was so high on him. Think about it. Cable is a run blocking line specialist. Passing is a secondary priority. I put my reservations aside because Cable vouched for him so hard. But, over the past few days we have been reading updates of multiple players beating him out on the line. This should bother you because besides Burgess we have no pass rush. If our guys are blowing by him what is going to happen when we play SD,NE,BAL,TB who have a higher caliber of talent on the defensive line?

  54. Marcofromda510 Says:

    Raider Nation Celebration is at McAfee Collisieum 11am for season ticket holders, 12 for everyone else. Its free this year. Its august 10th, a sunday.

  55. i dress in black Says:

    HayesDaze#37 - a good rule a thumb is no link, no story

  56. Buck_says Says:

    What is this “MR” bs?

  57. Finzel Says:

    Belichek obviously remembers Jordan from the Jets. Just the spot for him to get his mojo back up, but he still has to make the team. Maroney as #1 ballcarrier, Jordan spelling him, and Faulk for third-down scatback work. Effective combination, on paper. Interesting to see how “Justin McFadbush” will stack up against it, worth watching.

    I KNEW Jordan was gonna land on his feet. I really do think he gave us what he had, probably tried to do more than he was capable of.

  58. Steelyone Says:

    no need to hate on jordan…he was a raider now he’s not…i think Al does a diservice to his team when he hangs guys out to dry like he does. See Marcus Allen ( although I agree that Bo was the guy to give the rock to) His hopes of striking a deal for Jordan were only that Hopes….do the guy right Al….and perhaps other guys would not be wary of joinin the Silver and Black.

    Good Luck Lamont thanks for yer services

    Carry on Nation

  59. MR Says:

    We should play a game; Who’ll be the next Jordan? Basically, who’ll be the next player that Al thought would be a great reclamation project but turned out to be garbage, and was scapegoated for the team’s failures? Toss up between Javon and DeAngelo, if you ask me.

  60. Steelyone Says:

    I know we sign lots of guys…. i.e. this off season….but the point remains…treat guys well throughout their stay with the team and the karma comes back to ya….stickin to guys does not sit well with me

    Can’t wait to stomp shanarat in week one

  61. 3 Trophies Says:

    shanarat has karma coming his way. his players suck and hes taken chances on bad guys. that will come bakc to haunt him.

  62. Shawnraiders81 Says:

    my ONLY worry…… harris pass blocking on the left side…..

    p.s. how is Michael Bush doing Jerry.

    I cant wait to see McFadden and Bush in the backfield at the same time!

  63. El Dirty Says:

    If the practices are closed how are the reporters getting all this detailed info?

  64. Oakglenn Says:

    There’s a limited number of press passes to let some reporters watch practice. As for Jerry, normally he has to watch thru a rip in the black tarp until Raider security comes and makes him leave.

  65. El Dirty Says:

    Oak

    Thanks again… your a great source of info… are u guys watching the fights right now? a lot of a$$ woopin goin on…

  66. RaiderTay Says:

    Valid point…Lordan will probably excel spelling Maroney. This is similar to his role w/ the Jets. He is just not an every down back.

  67. Dakota Says:

    Bob Marley Says:
    July 26th, 2008 at 8:50 am
    Dakota

    Join Mista´s league…we´ll agree to leave Mcfadden to you.

    ____________________________________________

    I signed up…prepare to be dominated.

  68. El Dirty Says:

    Jordon will do a great job spelling injury prone Maroney… This was very smart move on Lamonts part to join that team his chances of playing regularly there are very good.

  69. El Dirty Says:

    If I had access to NFL.com I would dominate all of u

  70. Dakota Says:

    Dirty,

    How do you not have access to NFL.com ???

  71. MR Says:

    Hey, that’s great, Oakglenn. Security throws Jerry out of the Coliseum. That’s yet another mundane Raider victory off the field, while another loss on the field. Awesome! I Will!

  72. El Dirty Says:

    The only computer access I have is through work and my phone… My job only blocks ESPN and NFL.com… When I talk to u guys its all through my phone and for some reason NFL.Com is to much of a bandwidth for my phone to handle… friggen sucks… trying to get a new computer in the next 2 weeks

  73. Dakota Says:

    MR, it looks like just you and I are on the blogg right now…should we talk about your psychological problems?

    Why don’t you begin by telling me about your first childhood memory…

  74. Dakota Says:

    What was that MR, your first memory is of this:

    http://www.fansedge.com/Images/Product/35-82/35-82461-P.jpg

    Well, that explains your current fixation on Steve Young.

  75. Dakota Says:

    Now MR, why don’t you tell me about your first pet?

  76. Dakota Says:

    Oh, this was your first pet, it was a lovely looking dog…now is there anything else about this memory you would like to discuss???

    http://kb021.k12.sd.us/images/Trouble.jpg

  77. Dakota Says:

    Well, MR, why don’t we move on? Let’s discuss your first sexual fantasy.

    Oh, that was a fast answer:

    http://www.sf49ertickets.com/shop/images/49ers_home.jpg

    Well, you seem a little confused about which direction you were going back then…maybe we should discuss the current state of your relationships?

  78. Dakota Says:

    Oh, I see, well, MR, I think in this day and age it is somewhat accepted to begin most of your relationships via the internet…

    http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/medium/fat_man_at_computer.jpg

    …especially in the Bay Area.

  79. Dakota Says:

    So MR, I now understand some of your issues, but I would hate to prematurely diagnose you, can we talk a little more first? Okay, good.

    Now, we both agree that you are a somewhat uptight individual that has a certain amount of resentment; can you tell the first day you realized you resented your life?

    Oh, it was when you realized your lover moved away? Where did he go? Oh, Philadelphia…did you miss him badly?

    http://www.theipinionsjournal.com/uploaded_images/to-778829.jpg

    I see, well, I am sure that he misses you too. Sometimes the best relationships are destroyed by jobs…that can’t be helped, and you need to let go of that relationship.

  80. Dakota Says:

    MR, I think we have made significant progress on this, our first day of counseling. Remember what I said earlier, moving out of your mother’s basement may make you feel more in control of your life, and emotional stability may follow.

    http://www.robertxgillis.com/uploaded_images/happy+mothers+day-765160.jpg

    Well, after you repair the robot, you really should move out of her basement.

  81. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Dakota LMAO!!!!

  82. los angeles raiders Says:

    whats up with jerry one freaking post today.?? wtf

  83. los angeles raiders Says:

    this just in…..: lamont jordan rushes for 1000 yards as a 2nd string back for the patriots

  84. MR Says:

    Dakota, do you honestly think the “mother’s basement” thing is funny outside of this little retard circle jerk here? Do you think one casual observer to this blog is going to read that and say, “wow. This Dakota guy said that MR lives in his mother’s basement! This guy’s great! I’ve got to email this link to everybody..”?!?

  85. MR Says:

    Dakota, if you can come up with one put down directed at me that’s at least at a high school graduate’s intellect, I’ll leave forever. The mother’s basement, you need counseling jabs are about 7th grade. So you’ve got a ways to go. You need to exercise your brain just like it’s a muscle, dakota, or it will rot as well. I know you older rednecks exercise neither. So this will be tough for you. But give it a try.

  86. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    Just got back from Hunting Beach, had a great time with the family and friends celebrating my grandson’s birthday. But reading your postings 73 thru 80 were just awesome…in humor but also in the deep insight you’re providing us about MR. Know I have a better understanding of him and I’ll just continue to stroll on buy this stupid comments, his hate and his venom against the Raiders. Thanks again, Dakota. Go Raiders.

  87. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Funny you say that, I just got done doing exactly that!!

    “This guy’s great! I’ve got to email this link to everybody”

  88. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    Maybe we should use next years first round pick for an upgrade at left tackle. I’ll admit I’m worried. Not only is Harris not performing but he’s missing practice with lower back pains…they don’t go away that easy. Help.

  89. SilverNblack666 Says:

    The most common denominator between all sports based blogs is the disdain felt towards posters like MR.

    When we fans are getting excited about upcoming season, degenerates like MR are feeling glum. Because of the downward spiral his life is on caused by his hidden homosexual tendencies towards coach gruden and his innate desire to cause harm to small animals.

    I have spoke for Dakota and it’s time for you to leave!

    I’M IN!!

    I have always been IN!!!

    In my past life I was IN!!

  90. SilverNblack666 Says:

    No mention of your mom or the basement, it was a clean and severe clown!

  91. Riverside Raiders Fan Says:

    SilverNBlack666

    Thanks for the additional insight, I’m starting to see the big picture more clearly in regards to MR.

    Good nite and have a super tomorrow. I know you’ll have a super September 8, 2008 when we stomp Shanarat and his donkeys on Monday night nation TV, ESPN. The whole world is going to take note that we’re back and back to stay.

  92. MR Says:

    Riverside Raider has a beautiful day celebrating his grandson’s birthday, then can’t wait to get home, onto his computer, to discuss the troll MR. And you guys say I focus on the negative? Talk football, idiots.

  93. JediRaider Says:

    Looks good - solid competition across the board and I really get the sense that not only is the energy is up but the talent is there as well. Looks like we’re firing on all cylinders right off the bat which is great news. I knew last year would be a learning curve type of year but I though 8-8 was realistic. If Kiffin can get this team to “finish” as he repeated almost every post-game press conference, this schedule puts us in the playoffs (and easily, if I may be so bold).

  94. MR Says:

    Do you guys realize what I’m going to do to you in here if Denver kills us in week one? I predicted myself it would be a 7 point game that could go either way. So if it’s near that range, I’ll zip it. But if Denver kills us, oh…let’s just say you guys are going to suffer two agonizing defeats that week. It’s sad, but it’s gotten to that point. With fans like me, it’s a win/win situation. If we win, cool. Raiders won. If they lose, we get to come in here and just annihilate the obnoxious kool aid drinkers who made insane 31-0 predictions, and bashed anyone who didn’t agree. It’s going to be fun, guys. That’s all I’m gonna say.

  95. MR Says:

    Jedi, do you honestly think Kiffin will be here after the bye? After we’re 1-3, at best? After Rob Ryan goes after him on the sideline on live television (it runs in the family)?

  96. MR Says:

    Too much turmoil for the Oakland Raiders to win more than 4 games. And, it could be less because Kiffin will be gone at the bye and this team will really be lost.

  97. silver and black chef Says:

    Damn Dakota, like that….

    The queef is still here, I would have called it a night by now!

  98. silver and black chef Says:

    Cant wait to sit in on the next session.

  99. Aussie Raider Says:

    I loved reading this quote from Bush, can’t wait to see him truck that first defender….

    Bush enjoying contact:
    “It feels good to … take a couple of shots, but I’m still waiting for that game — there’s nothing like a game,” Bush said

  100. Huff24 Says:

    Why haven’t we heard about Zach Miller? He’s supposed to be one of the main targets.

  101. Aussie Raider Says:

    good point Huff, he’s been about the only player we haven’t heard about, or scaresly heard of

  102. La Milicia Negra Says:

    what a great day =) hows yours looking out?

  103. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I can see that question should be addressed to the east coast LOL

  104. Florida Pete Says:

    so there we have it…

    MR announcing that he will punish this blog and any raider fan who described any confidence in the raiders vs the donkeys on MNF…

    my prediction is that even if the raiders win by 14 MR will still trash the raiders…

    even if Kiffin lasts the season and becomes coach of the year, MR will still be here trashing Davis…

    MR is not a fan… he is the Cockroach King…

    which has been his ambition all along…

  105. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Pete…

    Hi… you’re probably right

  106. 408RAIDER Says:

    El Dirty Says:
    July 26th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
    The only computer access I have is through work and my phone… My job only blocks ESPN and NFL.com… When I talk to u guys its all through my phone and for some reason NFL.Com is to much of a bandwidth for my phone to handle… friggen sucks… trying to get a new computer in the next 2 weeks

    …………………

    Thats hardcore bro my respect level 4 ya just shot up 4X…

  107. 408RAIDER Says:

    Morning Nation!!!!!

    LMN do you think we should be spooked about harris? Im pullin 4 Cable to do his magic but it dosent look good @ this time

  108. La Milicia Negra Says:

    throw the phone away and get a proper computer… get another job where sites isn’t banned…

  109. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408…

    I believe Cable will do his magic. not that Harris will be a probowl contender in the pass game, but be acceptable… his run game doesn’t need any help =)

  110. Terrapin Says:

    Guys, you’re looking waaayyy too deep into what David White wrote. For one, I don’t think he even witnessed the Friday night’s session, which Jason Jones wrote this regarding Harris:

    “Harris is looking more comfortable at left tackle. He won’t be confused with Walter Jones, but his pass protection during drills this evening looked better than in the morning practice.”

    To be fair, Jones also mentioned that Harris false started once during this practice.

    If David did witness the night session he surely did not write about it on his blog entry, which leads me to believe he didn’t see it. So his words were more tailored towards Fridays morning session, during with the Oline and offense in general got their asses handed to them, in conjunction with Saturdays solo session.

    Harris didn’t practice on Saturday due to his back so don’t blame him McQs errors. Moreover, players get injured all the time - so don’t go judging the guy just because he sat out 1 practice due to injury/discomfort. Its practice for crying out loud. Surely, he would’ve played in a real game.

  111. Fat- Daddy -Groove Says:

    I think that Zack Miller will help keep the pass rush honest,

  112. Terrapin Says:

    I hope not Fat Daddy Groove (damn thats a funny name as I typed hit ..got a laugh out of it). I want these boys to do their jobs upfront and allow Miller to go free. If they do, its that much harder for teams to stop us. Even Kiffin admitted that while Miller had a stellar year last year he could’ve had a Spectacular year if we weren’t forced to keep him in on blocking (over 10 more catches at the very least). We want to free Miller.

  113. Andrews mom Says:

    Its sunday!! All dam day!!
    I have to go work on my house

    But I cannot wait for the three headed monster to tack on 250 + yards monday night .
    I predict the rat named scatashan will be on thin ice after we run up the score. Then he will be fired after we light them up in the rematch.
    That will be the game where jrock throws 4 tds and goes over 300 yards passing.

    I cant wait!!
    In Al we trust!!
    SB in three years at the most.

  114. Andrews mom Says:

    But its more to me then just SB.
    I support my team 100% especially when other fans start ripping us with the Al sucks byline

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Team owner and 3 VL in the trophy case

  115. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Terrapin…

    What is it you are trying to say? aren’t we saying the same thing?

  116. Johnny Rebel Says:

    I have a feeling McQuistan will be starting at LT if Harris does not look good enough for the opener and Henderson will be on the right side when Cornell eventually goes down with an injury.
    http://oak.scout.com/2/772676.html

  117. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Rebel…

    Harris will be the starter…

  118. VaRaider Says:

    here is some more updates on training camp.

    http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/141.html

  119. VaRaider Says:

    sounds like our run game will be even better this year!!

  120. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Kiffin is keeping McQuistan on the left side in case Harris fails.

  121. 408RAIDER Says:

    dose any 1 know what time were going to get the new fix??

  122. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Hey La Milicia read my link before you post, Harris is already having back trouble.

  123. Florida Pete Says:

    i got back trouble…

    and it doesn’t keep me from hammering at this keyboard…

    i am the ultimate computathelete…

  124. Johnny Rebel Says:

    Dorsey got 20% more money than Kelly without playing a down yet. Now that contract looks a lot smarter than first perceived.

  125. Johnny Rebel Says:

    The thing the chefs will learn about Dorsey is that he got beat up in the sec playing so much. He will be in and out of the lineup for this or that, all year.

  126. Johnny Rebel Says:

    http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/722079.html

  127. Terrapin Says:

    Gents way up above took what David White wrote in his blog and assumed Harris is flat out stinking up the joint. I’m saying David White’s point of view may be skewed b/c he MAY have missed a practice session. If he only saw Friday mornings session (and the previous days session) and Saturdays solo session, he’s missing valuable information about Friday nights session. Therefore, his conclusions may not be absolutely correct - hence slanted - and juxtapose to that of what Jones wrote of Harris.

    Now I’m not saying Harris is performing great. But from what I gather from reading multiple sources on each practice he may be improving. And there is also one crucial point missing here: They cannot cutblock in practice.

  128. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dear Johnny Rotten…

    no need for me to read your link before I comment…

    This is a quote from Jerrys last entry…

    “– Left tackle Kwame Harris missed practice with a sore lower back and is expected back Sunday morning. In his place, Paul McQuistan, who has been seeing time at left guard, moved outside to tackle. Also playing left tackle were Seth Wand and Mario Henderson, who is competing with Cornell Green on the right side.”

    Let me state my claim again! Harris is the STARTER!

    but dear johnny, i could say to you read and REMEMBER what Jerry writes… no need to other links stating the exact same thing… is there?

  129. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Terrapin..

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 27th, 2008 at 6:18 am

    408…

    I believe Cable will do his magic. not that Harris will be a probowl contender in the pass game, but be acceptable… his run game doesn’t need any help =)

  130. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Harris is soooo much better in the run-game than McQ so Harris will be starter… no doubt about that… only a season ending injury keeps him out of the lineup…

  131. La Milicia Negra Says:

    and btw… the run-game will be more than bread and butter to us this season…

  132. Hugh Mungus R8rs Fan Says:

    Dakota,

  133. Hugh Mungus R8rs Fan Says:

    that was great, i emailed the link to all my friends.

  134. Hugh Mungus R8rs Fan Says:

    that poor dog..

  135. Johnny Rebel Says:

    La Milicia all you want to do is make contradictions and argue with anyone and everyone that disagrees with you. Just because you say Harris will be the starter don’t make it so. I never said Harris would not be the starter at first, but fact is McQuistan is backing him up and looks good and Kiffin is leaving him on the left side this year. Now I’d say there is the possibility he would start if Harris stumps his toe.

  136. Johnny Rebel Says:

    And dear ole Jerry forgot to add Kiffin said he is keeping McQuistan on the left side if he can.

  137. Johnny Rebel Says:

    So read before you attack LMN. You can’t read a post in less than one second which is about how fast you responded to mine before reading the link.

  138. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Johnny…

    no that is not my intentions… you barked at me remember, you said I should read you link, when it said the exact same thing as Jerry’s piece…

    I love to argue, especilly when is worth the time…. but to me you seems like the boy who screamed wolf… because of one practice where harris is out with a lower backinjury you are sure that Harris is a goner ?!?!

    we will run the sun black, and Harris is our best run blocker, so I don’t see any logic in putting him back, he lacks some in the Pass-game i agree with that, but Harris is the starter in week one… you can go make a bet on that…

  139. Johnny Rebel Says:

    There you go again manipulating the post, I never said Harris was a goner lol.

  140. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I asked Terrapin, what he meant, because I had the feeling we where stating the same thing… so didn’t understand why he ‘corrected’ me…

    thats not arguing, thats clearing things out…

  141. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Johnny rotten…

    come on man…

  142. La Milicia Negra Says:

    maaan you are stiff lipped…

  143. Johnny Rebel Says:

    No I am just throwing out information I see not in this blog and backing up my posts with links.

  144. Johnny Rebel Says:

    http://www.raiders.com/Common/Article.aspx?id=47870

  145. La Milicia Negra Says:

    thats fine with me…

    all I said was that Harris would be the starter, and that your link had the same infos as we had here…

  146. Dakota Says:

    Cat fight!

    My money is on LMN.

  147. Mistabrown Says:

    Seems like our offense is having its way with Ryans defense so far. I guess they are in mid-season form already!!!

    Does SeaBass have competition ?

    AL, I can kick.

  148. Johnny Rebel Says:

    McQuistan is suddenly in the left tackle rotation, backing up Harris, and mauling Richardson, that about sums it up.

  149. Dakota Says:

    Mista, I got in on your FF league…I hope you are not a sore loser!

    Muhahahah

  150. Johnny Rebel Says:

    That information is not in Jerry’s posts yet.

  151. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota…

    LOL, you’ve trained me good =) all that practice i’ve had when there was 20 americans against pooor ole me is good practice =)

  152. 408RAIDER Says:

    dude harris is the starter Mcquistan is gust jetting reps in case he has to be plugged into the line up due to injury.. as per coach Kiffin

  153. La Milicia Negra Says:

    that wasn’t my best sentence…. hmm

  154. Johnny Rebel Says:

    McQuistan is not working on the right side of the line and started at LT Saturday… said Kiffin.

  155. 408RAIDER Says:

    FF? isnt that kinda cheating on the Raiders?

  156. Terrapin Says:

    Thanks for the link there Johnny (#144). I must say that this is finally starting to look more and more like an organized TEAM.

  157. Mistabrown Says:

    No, Im a sore winner.

  158. Dakota Says:

    LMN, don’t worry about your sentence structure; sadly, it is better than most poster in here.

  159. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Jerry Rebel..

    true, I just think you put way tooo much in that…

    our main dish this year is bread and butter, so we will run all day… Harris is our best run-game lineman so to me its pretty obvious that he’ll be the starter, plus that Cable said that is was his guy, personal pride and stuff, Cable will make Harris a starter…

    McQuistan is an okay backup, and in 2 years time he might be a okay starter… but not yet.. - thats is just how i see it.. and I think that most reports we will see from camp will be negative when it comes to Harris, because most want us to fail, making gold of rocks.

  160. 408RAIDER Says:

    good grief!
    just getting!! LOL
    Harris is Cables boy
    end o story

  161. Johnny Rebel Says:

    LOL he started last year for Cornell, you not making much sense LMN.

  162. La Milicia Negra Says:

    tried Fantasy leaque once, a few years ago, and I gotta admit, didn’t get it then, perhaps the internet versions wasn’t as good as they are now…

    when you never tried it, its not that easy…

    which fantasy league does you guys use?

  163. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Rebel

    yeah and he was still the 2nd choice.. thats my point, he isn’t good enough to be a starter, he started because Green got injured… and Green wasn’t that good, so when Mcquistan needs an injury to get PT (thanks K-rock) its a good sign you’re not ready to be a 16game starter…

    thats my point…. I like the guy, as a backup, and I think a year or two would do him good, then he might be starter material…

  164. Florida Pete Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    July 27th, 2008 at 8:06 am
    tried Fantasy leaque once, a few years ago, and I gotta admit, didn’t get it then, perhaps the internet versions wasn’t as good as they are now…

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    it’s the tubes… those skinny damned tubes…

  165. Mistabrown Says:

    Two spots left.

    http://www.nfl.com/fantasy

    League Name Jerrys Kids
    League Type Private
    Description Ibabuzz Raider blog
    Draft Date August 08/03/08, 1:00 PM ET
    Draft Style Live Draft
    Password - 4blitzs

  166. Dakota Says:

    Did everyone go to church or something?

  167. Bob Marley Says:

    Only competitive players please, no midseason quitters.

  168. Bob Marley Says:

    Mista

    You forgot to say that.

  169. Curtis Chalupa Says:

    I haven’t heard anyone mention Zach Miller and how he is doing at training camp. Is he injured?

  170. Bob Marley Says:

    Mista

    You should invite Oakglenn, that oughta be fun when you two play…

  171. Dakota Says:

    That is not funny Bob!

  172. Bob Marley Says:

    What?

  173. Dakota Says:

    Oakglenn and Mista playing is never a fun sight!

  174. Dakota Says:

    “They” are making a new Robocop sequal…due out in 2010.

    “Dead or alive, you’re coming with me.”

  175. Bob Marley Says:

    Maybe you´re right..

  176. Dakota Says:

    Your move, creep.

  177. Dakota Says:

    ED-209:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9IscZMYYw0

  178. Bob Marley Says:

    I wouldn´t get too worried about Kwame Harris just yet, it´s been 2 practices under a new system and at a position he hasn´t played in a few years. No one should have been expecting glowing reviews from day one, it´ll take some time.

  179. Dakota Says:

    I still think we should make an offer to the Bills for disgruntled LT Jason Peters. Whatever it takes…1st and a 3rd, 1st and a 3rd and a 3rd in 2010…I would trade quite a bit for a franchise LT.

  180. Bob Marley Says:

    Dakota

    I would love that too, 26 yr. old All-Pro Left Tackles are extremely rare, which is why I don´t see him going anywhere.

  181. Terrapin Says:

    If you listen to Kiffins PC he seems very confident that they’ll get Harris there.

  182. Dakota Says:

    One can dream…

  183. Bob Marley Says:

    And on that same subject, I was looking at some of the prospects for the 09 Draft, there seems to be nice quality and depth at the OT position, if Kwame can´t cut it and assuming we pick somewhere between 10 and 20 we could get one next year.

  184. Dakota Says:

    Jason Peters was an undrafted rookie free agent…now he is a 26 year old all-pro LT…

    sounds like a movie script

  185. Bob Marley Says:

    There seems to be plenty of quality at DL too. What you are not gonna find, so far, is a McFadden type of weapon.

  186. Dakota Says:

    Al Woods DT LSU

  187. Bob Marley Says:

    I know I just said I wouldn´t worry about Kwame´s first 2 practices, so it´s the same deal here…but what the hell….it´s better than read that he was a monster…

    “Rookie defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey wasn’t a standout at his first practice. At times, he wasn’t even standing. Brian Waters tossed Dorsey to the ground in a one-on-one pass rush drill. Waters later shoved Dorsey aside to create a hole for Larry Johnson in a running drill.”

  188. Raider Dell Says:

    Marley, Dakota,

    Have joined the league, are you ready to get your behinds kicked.

    Remember older and wiser.

    Here’s looking at you kid!

    I think you can figure out my moniker.

    Live draft, I got work to do.

    This will keep the interest up, off all that signed.

  189. La Milicia Negra Says:

    sorry to ask, but I signed up for jerrys kids, but how does the draft go, just us 12 guys or how - please explain me the campaign, if its not to much to ask?

  190. Raider Dell Says:

    LMN

    They have the rules and how the draft works on the same page were you signed up.

    Lokk up Fantasy Rules, this will give you the info you need.

    I printed it out and will plan my attack on August 3.

  191. Bob Marley Says:

    Dakota

    Yeah, I´d love either of Dorsey´s former teammates, Woods and DE Tyson Jackson who´s a big guy able to play the run and the pass. They may go Top 10 though, I´m hoping they´ll be out of reach for us.

  192. Bob Marley Says:

    Dell, Milicia

    Good to see you join Mista´s league, should be fun…what is it that you don´t get Milicia?.

  193. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Is it too risky to only take 1 QB or is that normal in a live draft?

  194. Bob Marley Says:

    It´s amazing that LSU´s Front 7 from last year is likely to end up with 4 first Round picks, maybe 3 top 10. In addition to Dorsey being a top 5 pick, DT Woods and DE Jackson have top 10 potential and LB Daryl Beckwith is considered a 1st rounder too, DT Marlon Favorite, DE Ricky Jean-Francois and DE Kirston Pittman figure to be drafted in the middle-late rounds as well.

    Of course, McFadden ran all over, past and around that bunch of NFL caliber players.

  195. La Milicia Negra Says:

    and what about DST, 1 or 2? whats the general thing to do?

  196. Bob Marley Says:

    Milicia

    You should read the “draft kit” on nfl.com, you´ll find many on espn and other places but some leagues have different rules, stick with the one your playing on.

  197. Bob Marley Says:

    They even have a fantasy 101 on nfl.com

  198. Bob Marley Says:

    The questions you ask depend on each player strategy, there are no right or wrong answers, so read up.

  199. Bob Marley Says:

    Another note from yesterday:

    “It’s beginning to sound like a broken record but rookie running back Darren McFadden made yet another head-turning play. This time the first-round draft pick took a handoff from Russell and headed left when the defense started making a push in that direction and appeared to have the young runner pinned against the sideline.

    But McFadden turned on the speed and turned the corner, barely making it through before racing up the field untouched the rest of the way.”

  200. Dakota Says:

    Is Johnny Rebel from Tennessee?

    And does he go to church???

  201. Bob Marley Says:

    “Wide receiver Javon Walker showed his toughness by receiving a shoulder pad sandwich from two converging defenders and was able to hold on to the pass. Walker would immediately get up and finish by running forty yards.”

    Encouraging news from imo camp´s biggest question mark (health wise). Seems healthy for now.

  202. Dakota Says:

    Time for the gym…later Nation.

  203. r8dr4lyfe Says:

    Jus a friendly reminder to all that may have 4got…this punk mr, myopion, charger, sausage sucker, whoever the hell he is, is this kid right here…http://youtube.com/watch?v=NR2DoPPlEVc.
    I remember somone saying that he is some looser kid that still gets yelled at when he does not wash the dishes, empty the trash, and clean his room. Never would see his looser azz anywhere close to a football game…

  204. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    We still have something like 6+million under the cap…time to get a legit LT.

  205. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Langston Walker could have really come in handy right about now.

  206. Huff24 Says:

    Walker sucked. Lincoln Kennedy could really come in handy right about now.

  207. Huff24 Says:

    JERRY - Let us know how Zach Miller is doing. Thank you.

  208. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    LMN — Go to a newsstand/bookstore that sells American sports magazines, and find one or two that specialize in FFL. Nobody does things exactly like the next guy, but here are a few basic things to keep in mind:

    - Great FFL RB’s are harder to come by than QB’s…the “name” RB’s will be the first to go…remember, there aren’t too many Adrian Peterson rookie success stories out there.

    - The name QB’s usually start to go mid-first-round and later…a lot of guys wait for their #1 QB in the 3rd round, depending on which RB or QB is available when they pick.

    - There are more WR’s with the potential to be great FFL picks than other positions…a lot of guys wait until they have at least their #1 RB and QB on board before picking their first WR…the WR position is one where you’re more likely to find a “surprise,” than just about any other position…most rookie WR’s, no matter how good they will be later, aren’t worth picking until you’re 2+ deep at that position (year 3-or-so is when WR’s seem to “get it”).

    - People who don’t draft 2 Kickers and 2 Defenses, will need to drop somebody to add those positions later if they want…most guys wait to pick their Kicker/s until there is a “run” on them (there are only a few worth really racing after — the rest can be lumped-together.

    - Bye Weeks are critical…make sure you don’t pick too many players at the same position with the same Bye Week…make sure the Bye Week is listed right next to your potential picks, so you don’t forget to check that.

    - When you find a magazine with FFL ratings, etc., try and grab one with Cheat Sheets — they help you keep track of who’s already been picked.

    - Look at your league’s rules and make sure you draft players who fit the bill (i.e, you don’t want a risk-taking gunslinger QB, if INT’s are heavily punished; you don’t want a Kicker who can’t kick more than 40-yards, if there are bonus points for long-distance FG’s, etc.).

    - Use those Cheat Sheets (or make your own), and make your own ratings of players — as deep as the ratings need to be to cover all 12-Rounds of your draft (for example…if each team needs to pick 3 WR’s, make sure
    you have rated at least 36 of them, so you’re ready to go when it’s your time to pick).

    There are a ton of other things, but those are basic guidelines that should help. Again — nobody does it the same way, but if you prepare well, you have as much chance of success as anybody.

    And…if you don’t draft players from other teams in the AFC West (LT, for example), you handicap yourself a bit…but you feel so much cleaner on game day.

    Good luck!

  209. 408RAIDER Says:

    I need my fix whats up Jerry??? Miller? Bush? Routt? come on man I need info…

  210. La Milicia Negra Says:

    HD#37

    thanks, bro’ I’ve been reading the 101 and the draft rules, when you never tried it before you got some questionmarks - I’ll go find a magazine… or wing it for the rest =)

  211. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    I am a cursed FFL player…every QB I pick ends up flopping…Gannon, Palmer, Brees, McNair all had down years when I picked them…this year I may take Cutler.

    Muhahaha

  212. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Muhahahhaha the denver broncos of Danish soccer just got 1-1…

    after 2 games we have 6 point and our rival has 4… great start… great weekend… Sastre won the ‘Tour’ with Riis’ tactics…. great weekend =)

  213. Dakota Says:

    muhahahaha

  214. La Milicia Negra Says:

    fu©k FCK

    LOL

    o/~ vi ligger nummer et!!! o/~

  215. La Milicia Negra Says:

    fu©k the denver broncos…

  216. raider11680 Says:

    Remember this. Carter will take over the number 1 spot as WR by midseason. Walker will either lay an egg, or get hurt. We will go 3-1 or 2-2 at worst by the bye week. The only team I see us losing to is SD. Maybe Bills if we get too over confident after beating Denver and KC. We will go 8-8 for the season at worst. Mcfadden will be a top 5 rookie for the year. Russell will be decent for the year, but impressive at time. Our D will be ranked in the top 8. Our RUN D however will be somewhere in the middle. Our passing D will be top 5.
    I can’t wait for the season. Oh, and by the way… Kiffin will remain as the HC for next year.

    that is realistic dreaming…lol

  217. MR Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    July 27th, 2008 at 5:24 am

    so there we have it…

    MR announcing that he will punish this blog and any raider fan who described any confidence in the raiders vs the donkeys on MNF…

    ,………

    I said I will punish people here who claimed we’d win by 30 +, along with the regular obnoxious kool aid drinkers in here who deserve it on general principle. Yes, that includes you. Don’t try to lump yourself in with those who merely have “any” confidence. I even have some confidence. I said it would be a 7 point game that would go either way. But make no mistake, if there’s anything good about us losing, it’ll be to come in here Tue. morning and rip your guys’ holes wide open all over again. You guys talk so much s’t. Oh , it’s going to just be fun in here if we lose big. If we win? I’m cool with it. That’s they beauty of us fans that have given up on Al. We have two dishes to enjoy. Raiders win? Cool. Raiders lose? We get to torture you retards.

  218. 408RAIDER Says:

    internet tuff guy!!!!

  219. raider11680 Says:

    I think he just popped a seam…

  220. MR Says:

    Basically, Pete, all the people in here who talk s’t are going to get it big time if Denver slaughters us. Like they’ve never had it before. And I’m not alone. There are so many fans like me who’ve had it with Al, yet can’t get a word in with the obnoxious jerks in here. Denver kills us, and all of those people are heading right to this blog. Like I said, you guys are going to suffer two agonizing defeats that week.

  221. HayesDaze#37 Says:

    So MR — With all your spouting about coming in here with mature arguments and comebacks, where does calling people retards and idiots fall? Just more of your hypocritical ways. And bragging about being right, when your (allegedly) favorite team loses? Even more of you proving you̵