Archuleta on the way
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 11th, 2008 at 11:19 am in Oakland Raiders.
With the a secondary hit with injuries to safety Tyvon Branch, cornerback DeAngelo Hall and cornerback Michael Waddell, the Raiders made their first roster move of camp other than the signing of a place kicker by agreeing to terms with safety Adam Archuleta.
Archuleta, released last May 6 by the Chicago Bears, could be in uniform for the evening session. The Raiders will need to release a player to stay at the 80-man limit. A roster given out by the club before the morning session omitted safety Greg Wesley, who has practiced only a handful of times because of back spasms.
Wesley was on the field with the team for the morning practice, however.
Following practice, Kiffin expressed concern about his team’s depth and promoted the idea of bringing in players for tryouts. The Raiders have made only one roster move since camp opened, signing place kicker Aaron Elling last Thursday after an injury to Sebastian Janikowski.
“It’s just been a situation that unfortunately we haven’t brought guys in,” Kiffin said. “I can control what I can control, come out here every day and get our guys as good as we can. I’m pleased with the top of our roster, but we need to add to the bottom of our roster. We need more competition.”
Archuleta, 29, was the No. 20 overall pick of the 2001 draft by the St. Louis Rams. He played there for five seasons before signing a free agent contract with Washington that made him the highest paid safety in the NFL.
The Raiders were interested in Archuleta entering the 2001 draft, but he was gone before they selected. They instead drafted Derrick Gibson out of Florida State.
Hall went in for an MRI after an X-ray came up negative on his right hand.
“We’ve got to be real safe with it because a big part of him is how well he can play the ball,” Kiffin said.
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August 11th, 2008 at 11:24 am
I guess …
Huff, Wilson, and Eugene are the only sure bets so far. Baker, Waddle, and the rest of the bunch looked pretty bad.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Archuleta is junk.
Just Win Baby.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:28 am
I’d be surprised if Archuleta sticks, actually
August 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Geez
August 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Jhill..
“Last thing I wanted to do is get into an American vs Euro debate. Just another example of non football related stuff on this site.”
I was trying to explain what I meant when I wrote ‘Argument’, an ‘argument’ is when somebody stating a case for their view in a discussion.. at least thats what it is in europe, if it doesn’t translate to american english, sorry.. I thought it was common knowledge..
regarding McCown.. lets just say we disagree, but if tui gets to play it doesn’t matter - seasons over!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Hall is the main concern…we need him to work with Aso.
Branch would be my second concern. Either way, it doesn’t sound like any of these injuries, even to Javon or Seabass are critical and they should be game worthy by 9/8/08. I’ll guarantee that Javon will be ready and some how, some way, he’ll perform big against shanarat.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:30 am
O ye of lil faith LMN
August 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Q..
so you think if Jammy ruined his arm tomorrow (God Forbid, knock on wood, salt over shoulder and so on) you actually think we would win some games…
I just finished watching the game, and Tui looked awful, remember this was against 3rd and 4th stringers and he couldn’t do much, oh yeah he had a long run himself down the line, but thats not something to rave about.. rankin was good, but tui looked lost. 16 yds, 3 att, 1 comp.. yeah you need a lot of faith to get that one going..
August 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Archuleta wa sbrought in to help out on the practice team. You have to have a safety.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
I thought Archelueta was all beat to hell?
August 11th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Another safety? What about O-Line?
Can’t we find a left tackle out there that can pass block for longer than one Mississippi?
August 11th, 2008 at 11:42 am
The problem LMN, is that it appears the Raiders have no passing scheme. Or anyone to develop one. Cable has come in and developed a running game. Kiffin has done squat to develop a passing game, other than dump the ball off.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:49 am
By the way all of you son of Howie - he’s so cute band wagon jumpers know exactly what you can do. I called D-MACs number two months before the draft. There were a number of you idiots emailing in saying D-Mac is a over rated thug and a bust. Questioning his work ethic and now you hear how well the coaches are talking about him being a leader in practice. Acting professional on and off the field, going the extra mile and you want to give him the “he’s OK with us” pat on the back. On behalf of D-Mac keep your big mouths shut and enjoy the ride. For the rest of the Raider Nation enjoy watching D-Mac gain 4-8 yards a pop and take it to the house Bo Jackson style. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Get pumped!!!!!!!!!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:51 am
cut tui, play curry if needed …keep chaz and watkins
August 11th, 2008 at 11:52 am
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
what up with the real fix jerry?
Thanks 4 the info on Hall tho… c Dirty told ya 2 a days
August 11th, 2008 at 11:52 am
KoolKell..
yeah I know, thats why I would love to get Marc Trestman back, to run the passing game =)
August 11th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Still not right between Al and Kiffin.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:59 am
I think we should trade Fargus before he gets hurt and we can get something for him. We don’t need all these running backs.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Yeah, we’re in the crapper big time!!! Our D-backfield is falling apart, Wesley’s not the answer. Word is that he wanted to go to Denver, not with Raider Nation. Now, we can let him go. Maybe pick up Lynch? He’s got to be better than Archuleta?
D-Mac is doing fine. Im very concerned that we will have NO passing attack. How is it that Cutler can become a passing stud in 2 years w/Diabetes, and we can get a 6′7″giant with an arm like Thor to wreak havoc in AFC West. Im going to trade in my tickets if the Broncos beat us again? Sux……..
August 11th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Archuleta makes Stuart Schweigert look good. I do not want to see him on the field.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
CJ Legend, I wasn’t aware that a team coming off of it’s 5th straight last place season has a “bandwagon”. Do enlighten me.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
yo cj I wanted cLong but I am pleased with dMac altho I still think Bush is the man. Also I never questioned his commitment or his skill set so take it easy guy!!!
RAIDER ON
August 11th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
you need talent to develop the passing game. The raiders took their shot with Javon, let them develop chemistry b4 everyone throws their arms up in defeat. Drew Carter slipped twice in the dirt infield while he was the no.1 read. Javon had a chance to make a play on the sideline lob: that would have been 5 for 5 for at least 70 plus yards: what is all the crying about?
August 11th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
I actually read in another blog that Archuleta was signed to compete at outside linebacker. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/indexn?blogid=11
August 11th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Fargas + next year’s #1 and #4 to the Bills for Jason Peters, LT.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
kwame looked solid in his debut, eventhough the niners do not have a pass rush. Mario Henderson looked even better against an even lower grade pass rush. We all know what kind of heat van den bosch and haynesworth bring. we will see what we have friday. Save the i told you so stuff because we all think this is a up hill battle for the starting left side.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
I’d like to get someone for our offensive line, that’s what scares me
August 11th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Fargas + Walter to the bears for 2nd and a 3rd.. =)
August 11th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Bills have no need at RB. Lynch is a beast.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Jerry sup with the fix? We already knew bout archuleta! Did you know his GF was smokin hott?
August 11th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
dakota they dont want another running back, they might pull the trigger for a real TE like miller, 09 1st…etc
August 11th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Dick v,
Would they take Wakefield instead of Miller? lol
August 11th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Wow…I’m finally not the only one saying we should trade Fargas. Yeah, baby Huggy might have the most Raider heart out of anyone on the roster, but if Bush really is the man (we know McFadden is from the fact Kiffin didn’t even need to try him out in open space), we don’t need 3 top RBs. We shouldn’t be giving up a #1 though. Not while we’re already in a movement to stay young. Wouldn’t mind giving up a #2 in a package with Fargas though. There has to be a tackle thats decent that a team in need of a RB feels is expendable
August 11th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
4get about trading Miller!! and we need fargas! 3 headed monster is pumping alot of fear into the AFC west I cant wait till we run it in the 4th quarter with fresh legs!!!
August 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Fargas + Walter to the bears for a 2nd and 3rd.
Madsen and Sam Williams to the bills for a 4th..
Come on Al, do those deals and I love ya again.. =)
August 11th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
I love Fargas and he’s a great Raider but I agree with McFadden and Bush there really isn’t any room for Fargas. So we might as well get something for him
August 11th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
S&B
I hate trading draft picks also, but if we could get a 26 year old franchise LT I would trade next year’s entire draft for it! Jason Peters is the man…but I doubt the Bills will trade him.
Just dreaming.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
the o line will be improved. i already see a big improvement. I saw the Raiders when the trenches on Friday: especially on offense where the first team easily handled willis and co.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
408..
with fargas gone we could keep Rankin, the 3 headed monster would be intact =) LOL
August 11th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
It’s not like Tom Cable is exactly up to his armpits in talent either.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
408 Raider:
From my perspective, his girlfriend isn’t all that. It’s an obvious fake job, which loses sensitivity and normal
response. I’ll take the real deal, even when smaller.
At least we agree that Arch isn’t the answer. Friday is going to reveal many strengths and weaknesses. Hopefully we have more strength than weakness.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I agree with LMN, trade Fargas and keep Rankin. But we would take a big cap hit if we traded a player (Fargas) that we just signed to a contract wouldn’t we? Bummer.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
LMN
Trade Fargas next year… Im good with that this Rankin guy had 1 big run vs the whiner scrubs I’d like to to keep him tho… (=
August 11th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Don’t laugh too hard LMN! You never know. Rankin might wind up being a beast! Hell, after Bush runs you over and McFadden blows by you, come 4th quarter, I think anyone can look decent….
Dakota - I hear you. Our #1 in 2010 might be an expendable pick we can throw in a trade though. Only thing about 2009 is, we don’t legitimately know if we’re gonna have a decent record this year though it looks promising, so our #1 in ‘09 could once again be a top 10 pick. But I know you were just dreaming. Hell, I’m dreaming with you. If we could nail a stud at left tackle, and just move Kwame back over to his natural right ’till Green gets healthy, we’d be alright. Then we can draft a right tackle in the 3rd or 4th next year and begin our conquest for world domination. (insert evil laugh here)
August 11th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
RRF
I hear ya brother shes still cute tho… Im more of an ass and hips man myself..
August 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
The Raiders sign a washed up veteran, the fans are talking about a “bandwagon”. This day’s starting off normal.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Silver&BlackBleeder Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Don’t laugh too hard LMN! You never know. Rankin might wind up being a beast! Hell, after Bush runs you over and McFadden blows by you, come 4th quarter, I think anyone can look decent….
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whats your point?
August 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Dakota: Why can’t we keep them both and get rid of Condo. I’ve mentioned this before, but it’s been stated that we need Condo and he plays special teams. It’s just not getting through to me. I can’t understand why we have 3 centers: Grove, Wade & Morris and none of them can “long snap?. And, on a 53 man squad there are many others that can fit in on special teams for Condo. Rankin could!
August 11th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
The US, with the USSR collapsed, felt like they could do whatever the hell they wanted to do. Medddeling in Georgia is one.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Trade Vargas! And sign the guy who’s only proven thus far that he can run well against the 49ers 5th string! Yes! I’m in!
LOL. You know I’m just joshin’, guys. This is Ezekial here blogging from mom’s basement. Let’s keep the wire going.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
MR
stepping it up with the new screen name!! Now thats some funny isht dude
August 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
408
Me too…hips, ass and long legs.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
If about 10 or so of our games this season were against the 49ers’ 5th string defense, then I’d say that Rankin is a lock!
August 11th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
408, screw you. Screw you, man!
August 11th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
RRF,
That bothers me too. Teach Morris to long-snap and then cut Wade and Condo. Then we can keep Rankin and one of our young WRs.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
# Riverside Raiders Fan Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
“408
Me too…hips, ass and long legs.”
…..
Riverside Raiders Fan, is that your preference in women, or a run down of your google searches?
August 11th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
408..
re. last nihgt..
such posts, is the ones that I credit Oakglenn, i have nothing to base this on, just a gut feeling…
August 11th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Hell yeah RRF now ur talkin! A nice rack never hurt either
August 11th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
No point. Just joking over the fact that the 3rd running back is like Mr. Irrelevant with the two franchise backs we possess. If anything, I was agreeing with you and laughing at the same time. You know how difficult it is to interpret inflection over e-mail/posts.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
C’mon fellas, Rankin has a snowballs chance in hell of making this roster. Trade Fargas for another 3rd round bust? C’mon
August 11th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
lol. you guys. Let me ask, when’s the last time you had a woman like that? And, on your computer monitor doesn’t count. Heck, even I can do that.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
kk cable has 2 1st rd picks that fit his scheme perfectly on the left side, and he has 3 very talented and hungry rb that will only make them look better. Grove was a second, cc is a stud in the scheme and green is above average in the scheme. they have real te… where are they lacking talent in the run game
August 11th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
“two franchise backs”. LOL. Listen to this guy. Like we’re going to be facing 2nd string defenses all year for Bush to play against. As far as we know, judging by play vs. 1st string defenses, Fargas is still our best running back. McFadden is a distant second who’s still too green to tell. Bush and the rest? We’ve only seen them against bums.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
LMN
well ill take your word on it brethren based on the fact that your always cool to me and every 1 else 4 that matter!! RAIDER ON!!
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Ezekial, Reporting Live From Ma’s Basement…. Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
408, screw you. Screw you, man!
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come on MR thats some str8 comedy…. ma’s basement LMAO
August 11th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
KoolKell…
I think you miss the point.. Fargas is getting more superfluous with each snap, and we are no replacing him with rankin, we upgrade bush and Mcfadden and add Rankin to the list..
August 11th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
Dick V
Nobody on that O-line except Carlisle was anything until Cable got here, including Fargas.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
kk…cont talent rant a fb that has earned a hawaii trip or two, and a young lorenzo neal that may take his job.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
New FIX
August 11th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
New thread..
August 11th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
and kiffin, knapp, rathman while your bringing that up.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
we do need to bring in john lynch, every player that was with tampa bay works out good for us, can’t say the same for tampa though. if we could of gotten rod harrison after rod woodson retired we would have been set right now.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
LMN,
I think you’re getting ahead of yourself. The 49er game if that’s all you’re going on, showed Fargas is still out best runner.
You cannot jump to conclusions on Rankin based on one exhibition game 3rs stringers.
Remember Echimonbiu? last year.
August 11th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
OMG…are we in complete “DE-nial”? Is nobody worried about our QB? Geez, we could have had Vince Young 2 yrs ago for sure. Someone mentioned Cooper Carlisle? You mean another ex-bronco? How in the hell do they pawn they’re trash to us? We should’ve kicked Javon out, taken the 11M, signed Aso, and looked for OL depth/Safety depth too…but now, we have a washed up WR, a broken down scrap heap of an OL. You really think we’re going to be a rushing menace? Hell to the NO! We gotta bulk up on the OL w/quality, not leftovers from the AFC West (Wesley/Carlisle/Warren/Walker) to name a few.
August 11th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Hey BHPBA,
Wake up buddy, we were 6ths in the NFL in rushing last year. Yes we are going to be a rushing menace.
wake up and come on over to the new thread
August 11th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I keep Fargas this year on the roster for the following reasons:
A) He is a proven performer at running back
B) Rankin had a great run against grade c talent
(may be good, may be bad).
C) There is a chance Bush or D-Mac could get hurt.
Both are high fast powerful north to south runners.
They can take some big hits. Remember Weatley?
If possible keep Rankin on the roster as a kisk returner. He returned kicks at Washington took two to the house. I don’t see another receiver or guard out there so why not.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
I don’t get this ‘wanting to trade Fargas’. Yes, he has trade value, but we will be running the ball 40 times a game. I would prefere to see those carries split. You have less risk of injury that way. McFadden will be a more complete back, but I think Fargas will make a great contribution. If we give Fargas, McFadden and Bush 10 to 15 carries a game, we will score some points and still be fresh at the end of the game.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Dakota…It’s not that I don’t agree with some of what our saying; but I get the feeling that everyone feels we’re on top of the world. I dont get that! Watched too much to believe, until I see. However, if Kif turns Russell into Young, and we don’t improve our OL, then hard times are ahead. I think the AFC West is down right now, so that’s good. However, Chargers are very good, and I just have a hard time discounting Denver. Call is historical karma, but Shanarat is the best coach in AFC West…KC’s a freakin joke! Too much youth, not enough substance.
August 11th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
BHPBA,
You are now two thread behind buddy! See the blue link that says Training camp, Day 19 at the bottom of the page, click it to move to the next thread, then click the next link to move to the current thread.
Just an FYI
August 11th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
we were actually more impressive running last year than 2000 (when we were 1st in the league) because we didn’t have a qb getting 1/4 of our yards every game.. a RB actually did.
you can have Vince young… He can run and get you first downs like a RB… but he throws as accurate as a RB also.