Training camp, Day 19 (P.M. practice)
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 11th, 2008 at 10:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quick hits from Monday night’s practice:
– The 23rd practice of training camp and the second-to-last night session of double days may very well have been the worst in terms of the passing game.
Included in the mishaps was a red zone pass by JaMarcus Russell which squirted more than 10 feet high in the air, with DeAngelo Hall coming up with a gift interception, and another by Russell which glanced off the hands of rookie running back Darren McFadden and in to the arms of linebacker Thomas Howard.
Practice ended with a four-down sequence which the Raiders attempted to get into field goal range. They got nowhere, with Russell’s fourth-and-10 pass sailing behind Drisan James, with Stanford Routt knocking it to the ground.
Mercifully, the three horns signifying the end of practice arrived. They ending a practice that in terms of the passing game brought to mind some of the poorly executed sessions of the last two years.
Kiffin scuttled plans for a full padded practice because he said the team was “too banged up.”
– McFadden, who fumbled and dropped balls in the first practice, continued to struggle in the second _ easily his worst day in a Raiders uniform.
– Running back Louis Rankin caught two routine passes over the middle which he at first juggled before securing.
– Wide receiver Ronald Curry missed practice with the sore hamstring which kept him out of the 49ers game. After a recent practice, Kiffin talked about how the receiving corps was worn down, and they looked it Monday night.
Drew Carter, who opened camp as one Oakland’s best receivers, has dropped off of late and had a drop in Monday’s practice. Javon Walker practiced both sessions in a day for just the second time this camp, but continues to struggle to regain his form. Jonathan Holland, another receiver who had solid moments earlier in camp, rarely gets reps with even the second team.
– Hall is playing with a cast on his right hand, the result of what Kiffin said is a sprain. He was pleased to see Hall remain on the field for a goal line drill rather than pull himself off the field.
“Even though we weren’t live, he came up and hit the guy almost as live as you could. Most guys right there you tell them to stay up, but our team needs to feel that. For a corner to go up inside a C gap, fit inside like that on a goal line and make a hit, I’m not going to slow that up.”
– Among those who did not practice were defensive end Derrick Burgess, left guard Robert Gallery, tight end Tony Stewart, defensive tackle Terdell Sands, wide receiver Arman Shields, cornerback Michael Waddell, cornerback John Bowie and tight end Darrell Strong. Burgess and Gallery were rested.
Running back Adimchinobe Echemandu left with a hamstring strain and may not be available to face Tennessee. Running back Michael Bush was limited with a stinger, but Kiffin thought he would play against the Titans.
– Kwame Harris was sent jogging twice for false start penalties and was joined by Walker and Mario Henderson. Tommy Kelly was penalized a lap for an offsides call, and responded by making it about six-tenths of a lap in a near comical walk-jog which lasted nearly two and a half minutes.
– Defensive end Trevor Scott easily got around Henderson on one pass rush attempt, only to have Henderson counter with a two-handed “punch” which knocked the smaller defensive end off his feet on the following play.
– Adam Archuleta, the Raiders’ newest acquisition, is wearing No. 42 and will get a look at both the strong side and weak side linebacker spots as well as on special teams. He got his feet wet Monday night, getting blocked successfully by the much larger Henderson on one play but getting in position for what would have been an open field tackle on a swing pass to Rankin on another.
After playing five years as a safety for the St. Louis Rams, Archuleta signed a lucrative free agent contract with the Washington Redskins but was out after a year. He joined the Chicago Bears and a familar system with coach Lovie Smith, his defensive coordinator in St. Louis.
Things didn’t work out any better in Chicago. Archuleta was hoping to land a job somewhere as a linebacker.
“It’s been in the back of my mind for awhile,” Archuleta said. “Once I got released from the Bears, I decided I wanted to. I enjoy playing in the box. That’s what gets me jazzed up so I decided I was going to try to make a run at linebacker.”
Archuleta is listed at 225 pounds and said he has put on some weight from the “215 or 216” he was at in recent weeks. The Raiders already have smallish starters in Kirk Morrison and Howard, and reserve Jon Alston is also in the 225 to 230 pound range.
“You’ve got to be smart, use your speed,” Archuleta said. “I played four years at ASU at 200 pounds. I played inside the box my whole career in the NFL . . . being down there with the big boys is really nothing new to me.”
He made no excuses for his time in Washington and Chicago.
“It was just a matter of not taking advantage of my opportunities and here I am,” Archuleta said. “It just didn’t work out. I just didn’t play very well.”
Said Kiffin: “We’re going to give him a chance like anybody else we bring in . . . there’s two (linebackers) right now that have made this team. The rest of the guys are battling so we’ll throw him out there and mix him around, see how it goes.”
Strong side linebacker Ricky Brown, running with the first team as the strong side backer until injuries struck, was back at practice.
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August 11th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
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August 11th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Gosh, that not much to smile about in that report…
August 11th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Jerry whats up you been on a 6 hr break or wha ?
FYI…for the record Ive never criticized Al Davis.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
“Tommy Kelly was penalized a lap for an offsides call, and responded by making it about six-tenths of a in a near comical walk-jog which lasted nearly two and a half minutes.”
…..
Looks like our scholarship players are working hard and serious about competing….
August 11th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Nice to see Mario Henderson starting to fight back a bit. Maybe he and Trevor Scott can push each other, and they’ll both be the better for it — although in fairness, Scott isn’t the one most in need of a push.
G.
“Pillaging just for fun”
August 11th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
No worries, Nation. A wise man once said: “Don’t worry about Thurdsay when it’s Wednesday. Don’t worry about Sunday, when it’s Tuesday.”
The Raiders will be alright. They just need some rest.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
KoolKell sometimes you are right on the mark and coherent, other times I wanna pour a gallon of milk of magnesia down your throat.
Just sayin..
August 11th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Especially our highest paid scholarship players…
For the money Kelly is getting, which is about twice what he’s worth (by his own admission), you’d think he give a little more effort. But, why does he have to? Al’s going to keep him, no matter how bad he is, just to save face. His job is the safest on the Raiders.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Maybe he was tired..
August 11th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Mention 19-61 and the evangelicals start spouting scripture, Raider mottos and speaking in tongues.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
milk of magnesia that’s funny I burned him with a preparation H joke earlier. The other guy cant read to well you have to just ignore him. He sees what he wants to see, poor little handi-capped guy.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
MR…who are you talking to?
You just spew negative crap, but try to justify it as being something that a real RAIDER fan would think.
You are such a loser that it defies definition…please explain what makes you a RAIDER fan or why you are a fan of the RAIDERS…please…for once!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
MR…you should come up here to Canada….you and KoolKell can get married legally up here.
still waiting for you to prove you ARE a RAIDER fan.
But you never have and never will because you are such a simp….get lost already…nobody likes you…you must be at least intelligent enough to know that aren’t you?
August 11th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
It wasnt as funny as cujo but very close..
Dakota, its going to be your job digging up all BHP post on DAMC before the draft calling him a skinny legges avg back with no power or moves “just speed”.
It will be a tedious job but well worth the payoff.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
I think it’s because our defense is going to be so damn good
There’s two sides to every story 
August 11th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
MR — Putting words into other peoples’ mouths, like usual. Anything to win your point, even if it’s not true, right?
Kelly never admitted he was paid twice as much as he should’ve been. He said he was surprised to get the contract he got — not that he was overpaid.
Give us more of your “facts,” please!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
KoolKell:
Why mention 19-61?
August 11th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Random, if you werent in here debating him he may not have a reason to be in here.
Just sayin..
August 11th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Mention 19-61 iin the last 5 year, and the evangelicals bring up the 1983 Super Bowl.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
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August 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
From what Jerry just posted and what I saw up close in person friday night,..Russell will struggle the whole year,…so will the running game as they will all line up to stop it as the whole NFL will see real quick that the Raiders will not be able to pass at all,..the Raiders will be last in passing. Sorry but keeping it real.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
And the objective observers note that 19-61 is not an eternity — it only feels like it.
When the team finally busts out, who will get the blame for that? Certainly not Al, he couldn’t have had anything to do with it.
Predictable closed-mindedness.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
random drugtester its a media conjured hate statement made towards our rebuilding years after we had three legitimate shots at a Super Bowl 2000-2002 and had a team stocked with older players. Most teams take longer than 5 years to rebuild after a run like that.
These complaints you hear are not real fans but are band wagon jumping youngsters that want us to win before they jump off to another team. I think a 5 years losing streak is good for one thing…it weeds out the weak fans.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
I knew it was only a matter of seconds before OakGlenn/Random appeared…lol
OakGlenn, if RR spent as much time on our defense as you spend on this blog our defense might get ranked in the high teens for a change.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Hey MistaBrown…don’t go all “Oakglenn” on me…guys like him need to be dealt with head-on…he will post whether you respond or not…otherwise it is like the “Big Lie”….whatever he says will be accepted as an honest opinion or viewpoint unless it is countered.
Don’t back down or run away from his puny efforts.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
“Predictable closed-mindedness.”
I couldn’t have said it any better myself
August 11th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Dakota pls acknowledge post #15 so we can hold you accountable, thanks in advance.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
You guys are all panicing too early, we will be fine. There is a long time before the games actually count, and we’re in for the best practice we can get right now. Keep the faith, we’ll be ok.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Actually Random, according to sistaclown you are me.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Us RAIDER fans know that the last 5 years are only a small percentage of the RAIDER legacy that includes much success and glory (all authored by Al)…and it has now placed us in a position to come back even stronger and able to dominate for a number of years to come.
To sit there and say “19-61″ therefore “we suck” is to label yourself unable to see things beyond the immediate.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Oak, I dont see the contradiction maybe you can read it again and point it out for all of us?
August 11th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
guys sept 8 is a ways away
Chill ……. we will get this done, remember this is Jamarcus first year of training camp he wants to go home and eat some sweet corn bread and spicey beans in LA.
he will come around. We all saw how well he played vs the chargers when he was out of shape last year
August 11th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
“Us Raider fans” don’t make me puke, wannabe!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
KoolKell calm down I know you missed medication time at the mental institution today but tomorrow nurse will come by and it will all be better and then you can go back to mumbling incessantly about last year.
You have one point correct and that is, you are only as good as your last season. Which means we are still a 4-12 team until this years team shows otherwise.
Now go to bed before you have a heart attack from reading the blog!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
OakGlenn,
FYI….when I say you lick AL’s bag thats not criticizing him.
lol
August 11th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Alrighty then. Peace/out.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Wow. Just a few days away from the Titans game and the offense is going backwards.
Bush and Carter are hurt, Walker continues to struggle, and McFadden is now having trouble holding onto the ball.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Remember Chef’s Chocolaty Salty Balls
RIP Chef…I mean Issac Hayes!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Hey Un-KoolKell, I have never posted under any other name other than this one…the name of all my Fantasy League teams since Fantasy leagues were invented.
you are the flip-flopper who is a Raider fan one minute when it suits you and then spewing the 19-61 crap when that suits you. STAY REAL
August 11th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
We are not 19-61.
We are 0-0, with a meaningless-yet-somehow-significant preseason “win” under our belts. The Raiders are as good as any team in the NFL right now.
Now, that’s what’s happening right now.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
OakGlenn, I see you backing out already.
Point out the contradiction or go back to posting under your aliases…
August 11th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
What is interesting tho, fans, is in the last game, we ran a base 4 defense, a 52, Man, Man with Zone under, 3 deep, and late in the game a 46. However not one person has come in here and said, Holy Sh**, we ran 6 or 7 different defenses instead of the only one defense that sista clown thinks is all we run. You would think that if our defense completely changed up, someone would have noticed. But no one did. The Reason???? Because we ran all these same defenses last year. Only dumbass sistaclown doesn’t think we did.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
nice way to reveal yourself MR…I referred to your efforts as “puny” and suddenly KoolKell gets upset about me calling HIS efforts puny.
Do you have any friends that aren’t you under an alias?
August 11th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Actually — KK’s been a real fan for a long time. He just went a little goofy with all the losing. His knowledge of the team is actually far superior than most other Al haters in here. He’s just wrong in his opinion of THE man.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Here, I’ll post as sistaclown: dadadadadada. me sistaclown. me stuff know good. Ryan suk. defnse sure stuff, internet.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Hayes Daze:
Right on! and we have lots of reasons to be optimistic for even more and better!!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Hayes Days #51 Nice post!!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Oh wow we ran the 3 deep defense………………………………..lmao
Now theres an exotic scheme! RR really dropped 3 back? WOWSERS! A 46 and 52 ? HOLY COW! My heart is racing OAKGLENN….tell me more tell me more!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Fri. will tell a lot… Get ready it may not be what anyone expects… They won’t rush over 150 yards period!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Actually Random, Fire Kiffin is also MR amongst his many names. It’s part of his game. Try to get pro Davis Raider fans fighting anti Davis Raider fans, pro Kiff versus anti Kiff. He’s banned off other Raider sites. You have to be a moron to not recognize what he does here on this site, the way sistaclown doesn’t recognize it.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Dirty it’s just practice. Both teams will keep it pretty vanilla.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
I apologize for my words/actions regarding any real posters on here….but I normally am reading this post in catch-up mode and have never been on here in real-time mode and just had to take my shot at that imposter and anybody who backed or supported his attitude.
I have been a Raider fan since Lamonica and Blanda were the QB’s and John Madden hadn’t even been heard of yet.
Long live the Snake! (and the Tooz)
August 11th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
OakGlenn, still waiting for the contradiction that isnt there but its ok being truthfull isnt one of your strong points in the “blog world”.
Keep speweing your nonsense some of these derelicts are actually buying it.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Repost for the 3rd Time:
Oakglenn Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Repost:
Oakglenn Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
I’ve realized that dignifying the idiocy of either MoRon or sistaclown with a response is just not worth my time. MoRon rarely if ever makes sense, and SistaClown is even worse.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
OG
Its starting to stress me out!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Ok guys…good night…the replay of the OAK vs SF game just ended and……….
RAIDERS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get used to it!
August 11th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Thats what I thought a repost..
Remember Oak, the NYG blitzed 4 times in the SB.
lmao
August 11th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
# HayesDaze#37 Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
We are not 19-61.
We are 0-0, with a meaningless-yet-somehow-significant preseason “win” under our belts. The Raiders are as good as any team in the NFL right now.
Now, that’s what’s happening right now.
Best post of the night.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
I’ve heard that a few of the posters here have started a fantasy league!! I hereby wager any amount that SistaClown’s team will come in dead last! In fact, I believe the sistas team will be buried SO FAR underground, that sista’s team will be closer to the Beijing Olympics than anything resembling the National Football League.
August 11th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
OG is a mess but he thinks hes the bees knees so let him do his thing.
Its good comedy..
August 11th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
What is starting to stress you out Dirty?
August 11th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
We had a bad practice. Get over it. Our first test comes this weekend against Tennessee. Plus we’re a little banged up right now. That’s what preseason and training camp is for. To work out the kinks. Period.
‘The Raiders Return To Greatness Is Inevitable.’
August 11th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
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August 11th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
The Wr’s… The fact that they have no fluid regularity. The timing is way off. J-Mac is supposed to have a rough time, Wr’s are supposed to elivate his game… ugh!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
I don’t know about ya’ll, but if “little skinny archie” can plug that whole we have had @ “the sam”, fuggit, i’m in.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Sorry to leave, but I do have a life elsewhere. Really, I do.
You boys, girls, and ‘tweeners all have fun.
Raider On
August 11th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
P.S. didn’t our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd string defense look good?
P.S.S. did I mention how good that RB Rankin looked?
P.S.S.S didn’t our kick return team look awesome?
just askin’
August 11th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Dirty,
How can a WR elevate the play of the QB if the QB isnt putting the ball where it supposed to be ? You have it backwards my friend. JR needs to step his game up or I’ll be shouting for AW.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
practice is practice, their just trying to open up the playbook for the passing game based on the gameplan going against the titans, id rather have jamarcus do some damage now then too self-destruct during the regular season, as lane kiffin says it ” we will utilize our playmakers”. If that quote doesnt translate onto the feild this upcoming season w/ a losing record yakno the drill! Just FIRE baby!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Yo random, both the defense and special teams will score points, there is just too much speed, the question is how many, and can they stay away from turnovers, if so, they win 10.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Remember Dirty every one of those guys is coming off an injury. And I can tell the WR’s are playing tentative. Walker practically had his jaw busted, so you KNOW he’s going to favor his grill a bit. All of them are going to favor something. Drew Carter twisted his knee up in the Whiner game and came right to the sideline, but he’s OK. Curry didn’t even suit up. On a plus side, both Higgins and Watkins look like they can play. We’ve got another month to get these guys ready. We will.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Personally, Random I didn’t think Rankin looked that good. He was VERY tentative hitting the hole, and the runs he did make was against 3rd team scrubs not against Patrick Willis and Co. He’s not gonna make the team, but he may make the practice squad.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Question: what do you hear more misplaced throws or drops?
August 11th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Hey el dirty, the only thing i wanna hear is TOUCHDOWN RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRaiders.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Post 82 = A guy that will say anything to prop up mediocrity.
Post 79 = A dose of reality.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Some days I feel great about this team, feel like we can win 9 games. On days like this it feels like we can win 3 maybe. If we are lucky. I hope our games aren’t as bipolar as the practices.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Pirate,
JR’s play is making me nervous I hope the next 3 games is what he needs, his game is VERY shaky right now & the pass blocking has to get better.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Now now ol Misterbrown, Jamarcus ain’t goin anywhere, well i mean he ain’t fumbled once, not yet anyways.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Me too Homey…
August 11th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Who said he is going anywhere I said his play is shaky. He will start the season no matter how awful he plays.
Jesus!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Dirty clearly misplaced throws. Obviously some bad routes too, but mainly misplaced throws. Everyone here thinks you just step back and turn into Manning to Harrison or Unitas to Berry, in two practices. Ain’t gonna happen. Think about it, Montana to Rice took a year to develop. AND THOSE GUYS ARE HALL OF FAMERS. There’s a lot of timing and reads, and trust that takes a while to develop. Our guys will do that, it’s just gonna take some time. There’s gonna be some growing pains.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Why do I get the feeling that if sistaclown was a fan of the ‘89 whiners he would’ve wanted Steve Bono ahead of Montana and Young?????
August 11th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
Post #79: Ignorant stupidity we’ve come to expect from the clown.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
The passing game will be far from the worst in the league: the niners, Titand, Atlanta, and Miami all are pretty bad. Baltimore gots to look pretty rough if Troy Smith is possibly the starter at this stage of his career. The Raiders will have a subpar passing game for sure, but lets not just shrivel up completely. jerry has made a point to comment that the passing game has improved. We see an upgrade in talent. We have one man taking all the snaps and building chemistry with the team, one leader uniting the team: no telling how much this team will improve, but we know with certainty they are better. Lets just try to have a little optimism. i am directing this towards ” I Will”. I know all that alcohol and pill poppin has put a damper on your man hood, but damn lets try to have a little swagger.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Alright I’ll back off… We all new he had placement issues coming into the draft… I just expect more passes caught in practice then 35%
August 11th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
By the way, if anyone has Sirius Radio, the training camp tour is at the Raider’s camp tomorrow starting at 12:00.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
You guys we have a QB who has made one NFL start. One. He played not even one quarter of the exhibition game against the Whiners. If you watched him in the season finale against the Dischargers, as the game went on, he got better and better. That same thing is going to happen as the year goes on. Remember, it’s not like he is on his fourth year with this group of WR’s. They’ve only been together for two weeks!!!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Dakota pls acknowledge post #15 so we can hold you accountable, thanks in advance.
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Blackholepriest Says:
March 31st, 2008 at 10:00 am
I give up!! you DMC freaks will comeup with any old weak ass arguement for the skinny HB.
I got better things to do, adios
Blackholepriest Says:
January 17th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I don’t think the Raiders are nearly as high on McFadden as you guy’s in here think they are. McFadden is not everything you think he is. There are also some outstanding HB’s in this draft that offset his stature. However I do hope some sucker is out there willing to sell the farm for him. And gives the Raiders everything they’re looking for.
Blackholepriest Says:
January 17th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Daniel are you NUTS DMac is a one of kind player. Explain to me how the great DMac is ‘A ONE OF A KNID PLAYER’.
Blackholepriest Says:
January 17th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Here Dakota goes with the BUSH is an unknown as if McFadden is a known factor in the NFL. This is the stupid logic that just confounds me with some of you.
How is McFadden this sure shot can’t miss most outstanding talent we’ve ever seen? What a joke!
Well I’m just damn glad NONE of those that think he is, has anything to do with us picking him.
Blackholepriest Says:
January 17th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
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We need Mcfadden almost as much as we need a QB.
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there you go
August 11th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Pirate,
JR’s play is making me nervous I hope the next 3 games is what he needs, his game is VERY shaky right now & the pass blocking has to get better.
Once again, spoken by someone who does not have a clue what he is seeing.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Post 98: Oakglenn I think you’re right. I hope so anyway. Well I gotta go take my antidepressants
. G’night Nation!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Good job Dakota but thats just a small slice of his anti DMAC rants.
DMAC is ripped and sleek! lol @ skinny HB
August 11th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
We’ve had three weeks of positive reports - it’s good to see some regression at this stage from a mental aspect. The staff has beaten them down, they are tired of camp, and they’re making some mistakes. It allows the staff to push them even further - the next two pre-season games are key, especially the third where both teams will play their starters through the first half. Obviously we won’t know anything until week three. We should beat Denver, KC, and the bills. We have far more talent on both sides of the ball against all three teams, so there are no excuses if we don’t go 3 and 0 on paper. However, anything can happen in game 1 and the next two are on the road, so it’s not even close to guaranteed. If we can pull 2 and 2 over the first 4 games heading into the bye week, fix whatever the problems may be, continue to gel, we should be good for the rest of the year. But like I said, in order to turn the corner you gotta beat the weaker teams and teams within your own division that are down, and hold serve at home so if we are going to be agood team this year, we should be 3 and 0 with SD coming to town, and that where the proverbial rubber meets the road.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
On the sirius camp coverage. Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan are great radio duo that ooze with knowledge. They will have as about as in depth and unbiased analysis you will find. I can’t wait to hear their take on the 08 Raiders. Kirwan and Ryan are close with kiff but both are skeptical of the old man. i strongly suggest that everyone get Sirius for their show if nothing else.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Wow 86 posts and no actual football discussed. Just a bunch of “we’ll be fine” versus “19-61″ nonsense.
the team won’t magically “be fine”. They need to get their acts together and have three weeks to do it.
On the other hand the team is improving.
JR isn’t going to light it up. He is going to be a hot and cold rookie. Rankin probably ends up on the practice squad. AA will try out at LB and be lucky not to be Darnell Bing 2008. The team will run the ball and struggle against the run.
All this extreme reaction to every little practice pass is foolish. This is a team that stank and is climbing its way to average.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Exactly Jedi. You want mistakes at this point. With some of the guys, (Jamarcus, Dmac) the game comes sooooo easy to them, that if all of sudden they come here and uber excel, they start not taking it quite as seriously as they should. Making lots of mistakes and effing up, is going to help those guys and help the team!!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/11/SP381293TP.DTL
even Jano thinks Al needs to bring in more players for competition!
August 11th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Thank you Jedi! A football post. I personally agree with your assessment except the Bills are a playoff contending team this year and I don’t think we have a paper advantage over them. They have a superior pass offense and run D to us. It’ll be an interesting match-up.
Tenn this Friday gives a look at how improved our run D is with Kelly playing 3 gap.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080804/NEWS/439160426&title=Kiffin_vs__Nolan__One_a_spoiled_brat__other_at_mercy_of_assistant
another article
August 11th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
night
August 11th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
And for those of you “nervous” about Jams play, go back to the first play from scrimmage in the Whiner game. Went with a hard count, got the Whiners to jump, knew he had a free play, identified the guy in single isolation off to his left side, and threw a VERY CATCHABLE ball out there that Carter could not come down with. But again he did everything right. And just so you guys know, throwing a deep go route to the opposite side, is not the easiest of throws. And he did it beautifully.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I agree with COW. The bills should be a good team this year. The should be 8-8 or better.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Cow, the run game will be JR’s saving grace. He might have to make a few plays in the 4th with the run game and defense. Javon and Dmac are capable of making plays, and curry, miller can move the chains. as usual every game will come down to one or two plays. I am excited. it isn’t magic, but it isnt too complicated.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
OakGlenn, just keep saying whatever fits your agenda as if nobody here has eyes or ears.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
You really are a moron. I was actually at the game, not listening to the broadcast. The ball was perfectly thrown as a jump ball for the much bigger Carter to go up and get. Walt Harris, who is a solid corner, made the play. You have NO CLUE what you are seeing. Maybe you can take up cooking or something, you complete imbecile.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
og i agree with you. Jr did a solid job. he made the right reads, and made quick sound decisions in the limted time he had. Whats wrong with that?
August 11th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
Looks like they removed your post. Even the mods are tired of your sad drivel.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Post 111
That ball to Carter was underthrown. Carter had 2-3 steps on his man when JR released the ball, by the time it got there the DB made a play.
Did you hear the telecast? Pappa said JR took a shot
because of the penalty and Flores corrected him and said it was the called play.
OakGlenn do you need glasses ? I have the game on DVR by the way..
August 11th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Since when is a fly pattern a jump ball?????
LMAO
I was at the game to but theres this new thing called DVR you should really look into it and then you might save yourself some embarrassment. You remember the SB right ?
They removed my post because I used a profanity.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
LMAO @ jump ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahha
JR threw a jump ball to Walker maybe your confused or just stupid I dunno.
August 11th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Dick V, you’re exactly right!! What this useless pile of crap doesn’t get is he executed the play call. I never said he drew the play up, I said he executed it to perfection. You know those little tiny pee wee kids that were playing at half time??, well, they know that if Jam just aired it out, the safety would have come across and picked it. But of course this guy clown doesn’t know that. 5 year olds that play pee wee would know that, but somehow sista clown doesn’t. So they went for the 25 yard completion and Harris broke it up. Good for Harris. He made a nice play. Sista take up cooking or embroidery or something else PLEASE!!! All of us are imploring you to do so. You are just embarrasing yourself.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Yeah oakglenn, it’s like hitting the cliche plateau - you gotta fail to progress and then fight through the failure to improve. In any sport you know when you had a bad day - when it’s obvious that everyone has had a bad day in practice, especially after doing things well in the previous game, you know you can do better - that’s when you’re really able to make the leap to the next stage.
For all the doubters out there, last year we were a legitimate 8-8 team, we just got the bad end of the deal in 4 winnable games (Den, KC, Ten, and take your pick of Chi, Det, or Hou), which is why I expect improvement commesurate with that of an 8-8 team on the rise (10 plus wins). Given our infusion of talent, another year in the offensive system, and most importantly a QB with an arm and mobility and WR’s to stretch the field to make D’s pay off play action, we should expect nothing less. I am a huge Kiffin fan just because he has the schnutts to do things his way and is running a smart system based on available talent, but he doesn’t get us to a very competitive level this year, I won’t have a problem replacing him.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Jump ball……………..lmao
classic
August 12th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Goodnight Guys
August 12th, 2008 at 12:03 am
I agree. Russell’s pass was underthrown and was thrown to the inside of the field instead of towards the sideline. That pass should have been deeper to let the WR run under it or fly out of bounds.
A better DB could have made a play on that ball. Russell got excited and threw a bad pass.
If the ball was on target, it might have drawn an interference call.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:03 am
I hope they give Fargas some more carries in the second preseason game so we can see what he has to give use as a starter this year.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:04 am
For the Fourth Time:
# Oakglenn Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Repost for the 3rd Time:
Oakglenn Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Repost:
Oakglenn Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
I’ve realized that dignifying the idiocy of either MoRon or sistaclown with a response is just not worth my time. MoRon rarely if ever makes sense, and SistaClown is even worse.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:06 am
K-rock I guess we saw the same thing like the other 40,000 not including TV reply audience lol
Facts are not a part of OakGlenns agenda, he really needs DVR to keep himself in check. Im guessing he doesnt even have NFLN because Rod Woodson clearly sees a different defense than Oak wants 2 believe.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:06 am
K-Rock, he did not take a seven step drop to throw the deep ball. He took a short drop and threw it up for Carter.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Oak..
Call him a “dumb poster” too lol
# K-Rock Says:
August 12th, 2008 at 12:03 am
I agree. Russell’s pass was underthrown and was thrown to the inside of the field instead of towards the sideline. That pass should have been deeper to let the WR run under it or fly out of bounds.
A better DB could have made a play on that ball. Russell got excited and threw a bad pass.
If the ball was on target, it might have drawn an interference call.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:09 am
#118
You reaallllllly need to go to Lenscrafters. He didnt mention 7 step drop lmao
August 12th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Oak…
That’s what I’m saying. He flicked the wrist instead of stepping into the throw. He just rushed it a little.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:12 am
7 step drop
Jump ball
This is better than Laurel & Hardy!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:13 am
K-Rock clearly that wasn’t the best throw he’s ever made, but it went right thru the receivers hands. Imbecile here once again does not understand the concept of throwing a jump ball or throwing behind a receiver which almost every QB does. Jam didn’t on that play. It wasn’t the best throw, but the WR should have caught it.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:13 am
I didnt know Kiffin was using Walsh’s playbook - 7 step drop lol
August 12th, 2008 at 12:15 am
This week should show us what the run stopping ability of our defense is with as a good running offense in tenn. We won the running game last week so lets see what happens this week. C johnson is someone I would have liked to pick up but we got McFadden instead so lets see witch one preforms better. I’m hope that Walker and Carter can make a WR pair that can aid Jmac in Passing downs! I would like to see Fargas play more then he has to prove his capability as a starting RB.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:16 am
JR can throw 60 yards on his knees why would he need to drop back 7 steps to throw 40 yards ?
August 12th, 2008 at 12:18 am
I wasn’t at the game, so there are a few things I could not see on tv
1. Did Carter recognize the offsides
2. Did he get his head around in time
One thing I did see at the end…
It did not look like Carter adjusted well to the ball.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:20 am
# Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2008 at 12:16 am
JR can throw 60 yards on his knees why would he need to drop back 7 steps to throw 40 yards ?
BECAUSE OF THE PASS RUSH YOU COMPLETE UTTER MORON!!!! Would someone explain to this complete moron what a 3,5, and 7 step drop is???? Ron Jaworsky was explaining it earlier in the Monday nite telecast. Bill Walsh is not the one who originated this or still uses it. EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE USES IT!!! Please someone tell this guy to stop posting!! This guys ignorance is just flat out unbelievable!!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:20 am
OakGlenn, did you read what he said? It was under thrown!!!!!!!!!!!!!
K-Rock said it was under thrown everybody but you OakGlenn knows the ball was under thrown keep calling me an imbecile its hilarious.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Nothing good happens after midnite,crash out
August 12th, 2008 at 12:24 am
I am not taking sides in an argument.
I am just giving my OPINION. That is it.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:24 am
If Kiffin reads that you think he and the entire NFL use a 7 step drop your IP will be appropiately banned OakGlenn.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Someone buy OakGlenn cable TV with DVR…..LMAO
August 12th, 2008 at 12:26 am
K-Rock you said it was under thrown thats your opinion, thanks!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:26 am
Don’t worry Steely, JM will be fine. He’s right on track.
hhhmmmm
You just don’t get the impression that the game has slowed down for him yet…..
I don’t care what you guys say…I’m worried.
The lack of a legit passing game will lose us a couple of those no brainer wins that everyone is expecting.
contrav
contra,,,eh
I just can’t say it.
Carry on Nation
August 12th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Excuse me but has anyone on this blog other than me ever heard of a 3, 5 and 7 step drop???
August 12th, 2008 at 12:28 am
The end.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:29 am
K-Rock I am completely agreeing with you. It’s clown who doesn’t understand what’s being said here.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:34 am
What is the strong side linebacker static and who is our top choose for that position R. Thomas, R, Brown or S, Williams or could it be A, Archuleta?
August 12th, 2008 at 12:34 am
Good defense “clown isnt following along” actually the problem is I am following along and its killing you. Just like your SB blunder.
Lenscrafters is just a phone call away Oak!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:36 am
very catchable…not overthrown….perfectly thrown
Make up your mind if you have one…
August 12th, 2008 at 12:37 am
It’s the family feud…
Welcome the OAKGLEN family…
applause applause
and the
MR. Family
boos boos
how bout you guys just meet out back and take of this like men
overthrown/underthrown …smunderthown
that’s the big deal?
might be bed time ladies
Carry on Nation
August 12th, 2008 at 12:39 am
I would never put my hands on the handicapped Steely and MR is not involved in this.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:40 am
mista mr whatever
August 12th, 2008 at 12:42 am
Walter is the man, game 5!bank it
August 12th, 2008 at 12:44 am
This is scary…
From TIME.com
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August 12th, 2008 at 12:47 am
Well, all these ranting about good throw, bad throw, under throw, over throw, should of had it, could of had it, etc., have put me to sleep, and many other people as well. Enjoy your “freaking-ranting” and good nite to all Raider Nation.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:24 am
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE STARTING LINE UP FOR THIS SEASON? WHAT IS THE POSTION THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THE MOST?
August 12th, 2008 at 2:10 am
# Ice Assassin Says:
August 12th, 2008 at 1:24 am
“WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE STARTING LINE UP FOR THIS SEASON? WHAT IS THE POSTION THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THE MOST?”
…..
Owner.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:14 am
# Random Drugtester Says:
August 11th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
“…please explain what makes you a RAIDER fan or why you are a fan of the RAIDERS…please…for once!”
……
Please explain what makes you smart enough for a realistic discussion on the ownership and management of this franchise, because I’m yet to see one single example.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:17 am
Oakglenn, another busy night of “ignoring the trolls”, I see. That a way to lead by example…
See you guys tomorrow.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:59 am
It is time to let Russell throw the ball down fied. Lets get what we paid for! No time for dump off passes not with his arm. He needs to execute NOW not wait for the regular season before throwing down field. This teams needs a 2 prong attact on offence. Go Raiders!
August 12th, 2008 at 3:27 am
Adam Archuleta is going to do nothing. Nothing to see here
August 12th, 2008 at 3:30 am
A lot of you guys have been banking on Jammy to be a savior. Shiiiit…the guy has like played ONE game and this is his first camp.
Don’t expect too much! Most QB’s take 3 years to get good.
Face it, our passing game is going to blow this year. We have no go to guys at receiver and our OL is weak in pass protection and we have a rookie QB.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:33 am
Vincent > the last thing we need is for Jammy to try to go deep all the time under pressure and turn the ball over and have our defense get worked by teams who can run the ball.
We need to scrap for yardage and feild position and try to get some field goals and not turn the ball over. AND then hope our defense comes through. If we give up cheap turnovers our D and our opponents get cheap points then they can run, which will kill us.
We need to control the ball, scramble for points and force the other teams to pass.
August 12th, 2008 at 4:28 am
Man, I hope our wide outs aren’t burnt out.
Probably bounce back. Just sick of 2 a days. Sounds like they’ll end soon…
August 12th, 2008 at 4:47 am
FANG RULES !
August 12th, 2008 at 5:52 am
I would trade Russell right now for a 1st round pick, and start Walters, should have started walters all along and drafted C. Johnson. The Raiders will have a good season and should win 7-9 games. If Russell advances quickly, maybe more. Kiffin, please let Russell throw a few more balls in the preseason though.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:11 am
I on the other hand would give Jammy (who is the best QB prospect in many years) to develop instead of trading him for a lousy first round pick.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:24 am
by the way, I blew out my hammy yesterday….jesus I’m getting old!
August 12th, 2008 at 6:59 am
I agree copen, russell to go deep is the last thing we need. Though id love to see him rip a few off, id rather get him to make the correct reads, and be decisive in his decision making so that we can be a consistant team in the passing game and that is predicated on the running game and how well the line blocks for jruss and the crew. I just like to see some improvement this week against tenn.
August 12th, 2008 at 7:16 am
We don’t want Jrus to be like culpepper who got his stats by throwing it up for grabs to moss all the time,he showed problems reading the defense and kiffin is doing a great job ingetting russell to make the right reads go to check downs….throw ball away when nuthing is there, we need a smart qb to lead the way and I believe with time jruss can be that guy
August 12th, 2008 at 7:21 am
how is the weather in texas or california during december?
August 12th, 2008 at 7:52 am
LMN it depends where you are in California!
I can’t speak to texas
August 12th, 2008 at 7:57 am
I really can’t and probably never will be able to wrap my brain around the signing of archie and playing him at lb……why not just sign a lb and not a saftey who would be undersized at lb, even if he did put on thhe weight I just don’t see see it? I pray we go out and get a real ot or ol davis need to dig in his pocket some more and make a few more moves for the sake of adding depth, cause injury bug looms!!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 8:00 am
You will get the drops in practice on occassion
but the Raiders receviers should be all pumped up
to make every catch because there are a number of
receviers that will not be making the team. Walker
is a real concern and I think the issue with Drew
Carter was durability and well now we are seeing it
happen before us.
Somebody better get on the phone to Tim Brown or Jerry Rice and see if they want to do a Farve impression.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:04 am
3 days, 9 hours, 0 minutes, and 38 seconds left until the Oakland Raiders visits the Tennesse Titans.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:05 am
Archuleta will be caught by the end of training camp. They just needed an extra body to run around a nd play LB and Strong safety for practice time.
When Your old coach Lovie in Chicago asks you to come back and you play for him and he cuts you again that is a good indication that you are washed up.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:06 am
oops caught = cut in the email above.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:30 am
It seems like Camp is starting to wear the guys down. Kiffin give em a break you hater
August 12th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Who would kiffin be hating onin camp?
August 12th, 2008 at 8:39 am
Kiffin’s not a hater. He’s just pissed that he doesn’t have control of personnel and wants everyone to know it.
Let’s face it - team chemistry isn’t going to be great this year. The defense may band together under Ryan, and the RB’s and OL will probably jell, but there is an overall fracture that will probably hurt before it’s over. It’s Kiffin’s job to fix that and we’ll have to see if he can do it.
Still a much better team than last year, no doubt about it.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:47 am
What head coach in the league doesn’t THINK they should be the GM as well?
But how many who have had both spots have been successful? VERY FEW
Kiffin is just young and as my grandmother used to say, “Full of piss and vinegar.”
August 12th, 2008 at 8:57 am
CopenhagenFan Says:
August 12th, 2008 at 7:52 am
LMN it depends where you are in California!
I can’t speak to texas
……………………………..
TX is the same way. It depends on where you are in the state.
It gets cold at night, but it will warm up during the day. Sometimes cold fronts can bring really cold weather, but that is not the norm. Jan. and Feb. are normally the coldest months here. The average number of days below freezing is 19, and these usually last only a few hours since they are usually accompanied by clear skies.
THE ABOVE DESCRIPTION IS ONLY FOR SOUTHEAST TEXAS.
Every region of the state is different.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:01 am
I agree with those who think that kiff should turn JaMarcus loose especially these next couple of preseason games. Preseason is the time when you practice the sh*t that you don’t do so well. We already know the Raiders are gonna be able to run the ball very well on just about anybody. So let the offensive line practice pass blocking, and let Russell and the receivers start to get a rythm, and feel for the passing game. Don’t wait until the season begins to work on this stuff.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:11 am
For those of you who don’t like Janiporkski, the Dolphins released Jay Feely today.
He is 80% for his career, but is coming of a 2007 year with Miami in wich he was 91% with a long of 53. He was 1-1 from beyond 50 yards, 7-9 from 40-49 yards, and perfect inside of 40.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:20 am
K-Rock—Al will never let Seabass go until he is missing everything. Seabass was a first round pick by Al and he never admits to making bad picks. So be prepared for about 8 more years of the doughboy.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Well said burque
August 12th, 2008 at 9:33 am
It is frustrating to see other teams like the falcons throwing the ball all around with their rookie we will never get to see what we got untill we actually throw the damn ball……….I agree with the previous post we know what we do well already lets get the stuff we don’t down so when the season starts we will have more confidence in the passing game, being one dimentional will not work in this league
August 12th, 2008 at 9:33 am
I am also concened about the recieveing corps.
After watching friday nights game again, time and time again you see recievers standing next to our running backs after the tacklelooking at each other. Block, stand in the way, do SOMETHING. Opposing teams are going to stack the box, we need consistent play from the WR’s, sell the route, block when needed and fight for the ball.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:41 am
By comparison, Janikowski is 76% for his career, but has been 67%, 72%, an 71% the last 3 years.
The league average is 82%.
Feely may not have the leg of Janikowski, but he was 8-10 from beyond 40 with a long of 53 yards. He was 21-23 for the year.
Janikowski was 23-32 with a long of 54.
But to be fair, their numbers were close inside of 50 yards. What hurt Janikowski was Kiffin trying 11 FGs from 50 yards or longer. Janikowski was 6-11 from beyond 50.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Kiffin might be a gun shy coach…he may lack the courage necessary to allow Russell to develop his arm at this point in time. Why? Well Kiffin may be feeling the pressure from above to win, and the only way he thinks he can win is to be conservative in pass calling situations.
If Al gave him the blessing to let Russell loose and to start developing his down the field passing abilities without holding Russell’s errors over Kiffin’s head, then maybe we would see him allow Russell more latitude. But as of right now Kiffin is fighting for his job and is therefore very conservative with Russell. Which is probably the way to go. We need to have patience this year, because Kiffin needs to win and to do that Russell will have to make as few mistakes as possible because our margin for winning games is pretty miniscule.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:49 am
I just picked up a copy of Madden 09…it better be superior to last year’s sheeety game.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Dakota…
Let me know what you think of Madden. I am waiting to hear from some folks before I buy a copy.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Dakota,
I agree that it makes sense during the regular season to bring Russell along slowly and conservatively. But this is pre-season, these games don’t count for nuthin. Al’s not gonna fire Kiffin for losing a pre-season game, especially if Kiff were just to talk to Al and Russell and tell them, “look, these games don’t matter, so we’re gonna do some experimenting, just to see where you’re at”. They might be pleasantly surprised. And if he stinks it up, at least they’ll know there’s still a bunch of work left to do.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Yeah…. but with our pass blocking…we don’t want to get the Franchise killed.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:12 am
K-rock..
thanks I have no idea how it is, My father has been to san antonnio several times, and he hate the heat…
I was thinking to take a trip to the meditareania or usa in late december, since my mother died, christmas is just something there is in the way..
i’m a weak fu©ker, so humidity kills me… today here in DK its 88% and i wanna kill myself.. heat and cold is not the biggest problem, but humidity simply makes my body want to dissolve it self =)
August 12th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Speaking of Madden, here is a funny a$$ article from a guy who reviewed the game for ESPN in a 24 hour span, and he played with the Raiders the whole time in franchise mode. After playing so many games, he simulated the rest of the years, and come to find out, McFadden leads us to a SuperBowl win in 2012. The article cracks me up though ’cause of course, some of the plays he talks about the Raiders making are no where near believable, yet they offer some promise that at least a video game thinks we’ll be good! Check it out. It’s a decent size article but entertaining nonetheless.
http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=3524296
August 12th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Some of you guys are overlooking Buffalo. Thats a pretty solid team they have. They gave Dallas a run for their money last year. Our boys have to fly cross country to play them. Its not going to be a cake walk. I currently expect 2 wins by the by week (Denv, KC). Anything above that will be a huge plus.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:15 am
The team could actually beat SD and sweep the division their 1st go around. But they will only beat SD by stopping that run game and not turning the ball over. Last year, they stopped the run game but the turnovers were the real reason for the lost. (Damn Sims!)
August 12th, 2008 at 10:20 am
I agree it is preseason for crying out loud.
Put the ball down the d@mn field.
JAM’s gift is hi cannon let him use it every once in awhile. It is preseason who cares if he throws and interception better now than later.
If we think we are going to win this year by dumping the ball to the tightend and backs when we are not running the ball it is not going to happen.
I don’t care if Walker gets smashed into next year throw him the ball in the game and let him use all of that Vegas magic to go get the d@mn ball. This is football a contact sport put the ball out there and let these high paid ticket phenoms earn their money.
Lets be honest a preseason SF win is bull crap. They are at the bottom of the bucket just like we are. It is time to dig in and get some wins.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:21 am
The most important addition to this defense probably wasn’t DHall but GWilson. If the few plays in the 1st preseason game are any indication this guy has got the fire we need at SS. That plus, his addition allowed Huff to move to FS (a better fit for him).
I was taken back, just a little, as I saw Huff race in kamakasy(sp?) style to lay a hit on the WR Morgan on that slant route. He didn’t lock him up but he put his ass airborne and spilled him on the ground. Thats the sort of agression we need.
In short, the acquistion of Gibril killed could kill two birds with one stone. Better at FS & SS.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Just got my copy of madden 09, I can’t wait to get home to play…… I downloaded the demo and let me say visually the game is freaking stunning and I noticed to how much more loose and smossth the guys move, they don’t run like robots like on last years game and to pass the ball is awsome u can always see ur recievers. I just can’t wait to see the ratings for the guys. With the 4.3 of dmc he better have a 98 or 99 in the speed department and jruss should have 100 in arm atrength
August 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Terrapin,
They wouldn’t let me post the link, but go google Archuleta’s wife, Jennifer Walcott.
She is the best addition to the defense!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Terrapin - Felt the same way when Huff made that tackle early in the game. Regardless of the people around that play, that was a major open field tackle that could have been a huge play for the receiver since he was gaining full speed on the play, and Huff raced onto the t.v. screen out of no where and blew his ass up. Easily the best tackling play I’ve seen him make in awhile (which is ironic being he didn’t wrap up)
August 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am
I am sorry I got a little pumped up.
It happens when you push paper all day.
Is it Friday night yet? The Titans will be a
good match for them in the trenches.
Please pass the freakin ball.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:27 am
S&B Bleeder,
I agree, I remember Huff making alot of good open field hits at Texas. When he came to Oakland he disappeared playing out of position.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Dirty - That article says they gave D-Dawg a 97 speed rating. I think he should have gotten a 100 personally. Hester is the only guy in the history of the game to get a 100 speed rating. McFadden though has already made several announcers/analysts compare his speed with the ball to that of Deion’s who was by far the fastest guy I’ve ever seen run with a football…
August 12th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Buffalo may be a solid team on the defensive side of the ball but I believe we can beat them in week three they don’t scare ne one on offense
August 12th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Hey Howies Neck roll,
Are we gonna have a different line pass blocking once the regular season starts?
I can understand your point of not wanting Russell to get killed, but on the other hand, like CJ says, this is a contact sport, and Russell’s a pretty big kid.
So kiff needs to stop treating him like he’s made of glass, and give him a realistic taste of what he’s gonna be in for. Plus it’ll give the line some practice before the season begins.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:34 am
IT was a solid hit. Knocked his legs out from under him.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Howie’s Neck - Yeah, this is a big put up or shut up year for Huff, or he’ll go down as another Al Davis draft day mishap, where “If you’re a DB with any sort of speed, Al will invite you to our facilities for a workout! Come on down. Who cares you don’t know how to really play football?” Lol…j/k Al has done no wrong in the draft (1st round at least) the past two years so he’s swimming in good graces with the nation for now..
August 12th, 2008 at 10:37 am
One thing about Kiff is he’s a man of his word. He doesn’t BS. All last year he told us we wouldn’t see Jamarcus and we didn’t ’till the year was almost done. Now, he’s saying Jamarcus will throw the ball a lot up to the second quarter Friday, and I believe he will build a gameplan around that. We have to know we can throw the ball somewhat this season, plus our two draft day receivers need to get some game reps in….
August 12th, 2008 at 10:39 am
sorry for the delay… looking at pics of Archuleta’s wife.
Burque….I understand where your coming from…I just meant we shouldn’t just throw to throw…we should for sure give him more pass attempts, but I think it is smart to be cautious not to put him in a bad spot where we can lose him for the season…then we are really screwed.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Boys….I still think it has more to do with recievers than it does playcalling…sure it plays into it, but lets not chit ourselves….our WR’s suck.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:44 am
97? U kidding me? That’s a bunch of crap man we got robbed they gave n.+. Bush 98 right? So is bush faster than d-dogg?
August 12th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Jeff Garcia’s wife is even better….if anyone cares. Her name is Carmella Deceasare I think.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Morning NATION
Sign Jay Feely!! get rid of the fatso!
August 12th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Watched the game last night…everything has been said already but I have to say a couple of things:
I wasn´t expecting the sharpest execution and I didn´t see it, but most of all, I was happy that Walker and Kelly are healthy and looking ok.
- In the 1st half alone we watched 3 pass plays were the WR´s were in a position to make big plays, the Walker jump ball, the time Walker got past the CB but AW underthrew him and the 1st play where Russell misfired when Carter had position on the outside.
Walker specially seems to remain a tough one on one match-up.
- After leading that 90 plus yard drive, AW made the kind of baffling decision that has haunted him in the past.
I´m talking about that throw in the End Zone where not only was the receiver well covered but he never saw the Safety who was a couple of feet away and stepped right in front of his pass for what should have been a devastating end zone pick had he not dropped it.
- Not an impressive debut but good enough for the 1st pre-season game, I liked that while the 49ers are not very good, they are a tough, physical team on Defense and we were not outmatched in that regard.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Howie’s Neck Roll
You are so right!!! Garcia’s wife is smoking hot!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:05 am
I think Garcia’s wife was PMOY
August 12th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Tommy Kelly made Gerard Warren (6′4 330) look small when standing next to him.
Not sure how I feel about JLH´s TD celebration….
At first I thought it was lamer than Culpepper´s stupid dance and arms thing but later I felt it maybe kind of cool after all, I hope he scores a lot, jumping or no jumping.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Coach on Wheels - I debated whether or not we were better on paper than the Bills which got a lot of hype last year as a “team on the rise” - bologna! They beat the Jets (4-12) twice and Miami (1-15) twice, then beat the following three teams (scores in paranthesis) that can only be described as the most inconsistent in the NFL on a weekly basis:
Cincinatti (33-21) who went 7-9 on the season, Baltimore (19-14) who went 5-11, and squeaked by Washington (17-16) who went 9-7 and barely made the playoffs. The also lost to a common opponent, the Browns by a score of 8 to 0.
We were also better than them in total offense (Rai: #25 vs. Buf: #30 in the league), points per game (Rai: #23 (17.7 points per game) vs. Buf: #30 (15.8 points per game). We also beat them in total defense #22 to #31, but gave up 2.8 more points per game, largely due to some of our late season blowouts and the fact that they played the jets and dolphins (although they got smoked by the patriots for like a 100 points in two games) and some cold weather games that were played in a more conservative fashion. Their passing offense was pretty weak - here’s the QB total comparisons:
Buf:
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD TD% INT INT% SACK YDS RAT
263 445 2842 59.1 6.39 12 2.7 14 3.1 26 208 73.8
Oak:
CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD TD% INT INT% SACK YDS RAT
260 451 2893 57.7 6.42 17 3.8 20 4.4 41 262 70.9
Buffalo (with Losman who played better statitistically than Edwards) edges us out by a QB rating of 74 to 71, and if you look at the stats, you can see this is basically a wash.
My take on it is that with JR’s better arm, our far superior run game, and new speed at WR, we should be much more explosive than last year off play action (Daunte threw terrible on the move and McCown was horrible throwing deep on the move and usually checked down or tried to scramble with it) and designed roll outs, which is how this offense is built. Our check down options with Bush and McFadden is also going to add some big plays, which we we’re sorely missing last year.
Anyway, when I was making that claim, I did have to look at the stats from last year and I was shocked that the bills got 7 wins - but when I looked at everything, they got 4 gimmes and 3 against below average teams that played very inconsistently. We are better on paper everywhere except vs. the run, which I believe we’ve improved by replacing Sapp with Kelly (you could see the difference on Friday) and bringing in Wilson and moving Huff to FS (again here, you could really see the difference with Wilson making plays at the line and Huff flying up (as oppossed to running backwards trying to find an angle like Stu did last year) and submarining guy’s legs from under them which is how he played at Texas. We can’t get any worse than last year (because we were the worst), but I think the changes we made in addition to having an offense that will put up more than 17 points a game to force the D to throw on us instead of running on us all day will help our run D quite a bit, even though I’m the first to say we need further talent upgrades on the line and at SLB.
Speaking of SLB, I found this nuggett on espn.com hiding in an afc west report discussing Archuleta’s workout for the Raiders, I figured he had to be fast enough to play LB (barely, it turns out, no wonder he got smoked at FS), but he’s strong for his size, he might actually have a chance:
Archuleta ran a 4.55 40-yard dash and he did 38 repetitions of 225-pound bench press. Archuleta has long been known as a workout warrior and for bringing a lot of fire to a defense. The Raiders look at the signing as an extremely low risk move. He was signed for one year at $730,000.
Archuleta is moving from safety to outside linebacker in Oakland. The Raiders are looking for depth at the position and Archuleta is looking for a new lease on his career. After struggling in recent years at safety, Archuleta is hoping to enjoy a career resurgence at linebacker were he starred at college at Arizona State.
The Archuleta move backs up what Raiders’ coach Lane Kiffin said. He is looking for more competition at the end of the roster. Winning teams go 53-men strong. That’s’ what Kiffin is looking for and that’s why Archuleta was signed.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Yeah…I guess it’s true…chicks dig Cars and $$$…cause Garcia is definitley playing for the other team….I’m sure he’s a really nice guy though…hahaha
August 12th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Not to get everyone’s panties in a bunch, but Jamarcus might be hurt worse than we know. I guess you are only supposed to only get 2 cortisone shots in any given time frame….and Jruss has had 4. And supposedly they didn’t want him driving, so he took a taxi back to the Bay Area….and they fined him for every hour he was gone. I don’t know how reliable the source is….but could be a reason he didn’t get much action against the 49ers.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:18 am
The Bay Area sports writers are so pathetic and desperately angry at Al for not talking to them at their whim. I would suppose that any good owner should answers to the media for fear of the backlash we fans are getting from these degenerates on a daily basis.
So now supposedly just because the Kiffin is honest an answers questions every question he answers now is a so called shot at Al his boss.
I cant believe the crap I read this morning, get this supposedly kiffin is upset that Al had only been to one or two practices.
Give me a break you feeble minded sheep herders.
How many times have we read your stupid articles that say Al meddles way to much and should leave his coach alone to coach.
You cant have it both ways either Al is pulling all the strings and his coaches hate him for being too hands on or he isnt.
How do these people have jobs is beyond me I guess you can just take a sentence from a coach and interpret or bend it any way you want to these days with no recourse.
That’s why kiffin and Al don’t respond to your stupid rumor mongering and lies because it would be a full time job.
You all disgust me and if I could I would defecate on each and every one of you for trying to destroy our organization to sell articles. monte poodle nancy gay ray fatto ann killion and yes our beloved Chargers fan jerry.
They are sub humans as far as I am concerned and do not deserve to have their names capitalized in print.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:22 am
wow….deep breaths bro. No need to get your blood pressure up, because of these hacks.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:23 am
For everyone interested in Huff’s tackling ability coming from the free safety position, watch this clip starting at the 2 minute mark (the first two minutes are mainly int’s and pass defense). His skill set coming out of college was sitting in a zone and moving towards the line of scrimmage to attack and make plays. He is able to instantly diagnose, react, determine the appropriate angle, and get to the ball fast. He jumps off the screen as a FS in college, just like he did against that slant route on Friday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97VS9_NpC60
August 12th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Howie’s Neck Roll -
Is there an article link regarding your post #215? I’m very curious…
August 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Dogg,
No one of my assistant coaches has a friend that supposedly works with 6 different NFL teams…in a physical training capacity… Like I said I heard second hand from one of my coaches, he is a Raiders fan like me, and a great guy….I just always take these things with a grain of salt.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:33 am
HNR -
I didn’t see any previous posts of yours regarding any specifics of this injury. Is it his back and why would they fine him? You will have to forgive me, I have been out of the loop for over a month and I am trying to get up to speed.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Kiff’s letting the old man have it. This all goes back to February. Kiffin is showing Al up in a big way. He knows he’s gone, and he’s taking the advice of Emilio Zapata; He’d rather die on his feet than live on his knees. He’s coaching the team Parcells style. And all Al can do about it is fire him. And, of course, Al won’t do that because a) it will cost him and b) It will reveal to the world, including his fan base, that the turmoil is as bad as it ever was. For starters, J Russ is screwed without Kiff. Al’s going to wait till the season’s over and just let Kiffin walk. My god..it would be great if Kiffin refused to resign in any way at the end of the season, too. Team goes 8-8 and Al has to fire him. That would be hilarious.
This is going to get good. Win or lose, there will be fireworks.
Al Davis brought this all on himself. Why did he hire Kiffin if he didn’t believe in him? If he saw something good in him, just let him coach the team! If he sees Kiffin as this worthless scrub who needs to make his bones before being allowed to make one single decision, then it seems to me he couldn’t have thought too highly of him to begin with.
Al Davis makes no sense. It’s just like if you’re a pre school teacher or whatever. When there’s fights every day, and there’s one kid always in every single fight…I think you have a pattern. If the Raiders go another season with less than 5 wins, I think the league should find a legal avenue to step in.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:35 am
666,
You annoy the sheit out of me pal, with that conspiracy nonsense.
But I’m going to let it go, for now.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Dogg,
I am assuming it has to do with his elbow that he banged on McFadden’s helmet a couple weeks ago. I guess they didn’t want him to drive because they wanted to keep an eye on him for some reason…he took a cab to the Bay Area for a day and a half.
This is all hearsay…don’t everyone wet themselves in here. All I am saying is that a variation of this could be true and that is way he didn’t get much playing time on Friday night.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:40 am
HNR -
OK, I knew about the elbow injury, just making sure that there isn’t anything new cropping up. Thanks bro.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:41 am
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_10172099
August 12th, 2008 at 11:46 am
No problem….I just hope he is healthy. Although, I don’t think the world would end if we had to go with Walter this season…he’s not horrible…he’s just no JRuss!
August 12th, 2008 at 11:49 am
its not a conspiracy koolkell its a money making negative spin machine.
Its real easy to sell articles by bashing the Raiders because most of the NFL fan base dislikes us.
Think about it! what ESPN headline is going to get more traction Kiffin adopts baby puppies or Al Davis is senile!
But when your a local writer are trying to act like Sean Salisbary it makes me sick.
I want to read my local paper and read about the progress of my team but every time I do I have to hear about how screwed up our owner is.
My next post I will pick two owners that are way worse and way more senile than Al and I will include the links to back it up.
August 12th, 2008 at 11:50 am
My son just woke up….later
August 12th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Also koolkell you are a sheep who is easily sucked in by jerry and the other local writers, I have witnessed your sycophantic behavior in here before.
So I am not surprised that you disagree with me.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Okay, I took an extended lunch and played one game of Madden, Raiders v. 49ers. I won 21-11 mainly due to a ball control offense with DMAC and Bush, with passes to the RBs and TEs. I was picked twice going deep to Walker and Curry, but I did drop a 40 yrd TD pass to Carter in the slot.
Defensively, I Edwards forced one fumble and Wilson had 1 int and Howard had 2 ints. Kelly returned the fumble for a TD…dude had some moves in the open field.
I was able to sign Archuleta after releasing Jordan. I was able to change player’s positions unlike last year’s sheetty version on PS3.
Nice game, too early to tell if it will be that great.
I was labeled pro on my Madden IQ test, but pro seemed a little more difficult this year than in years past.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
And Kell, in order to be “sucked” out of the media’s ring of fire…you need to believe that Al Davis is the sharpest owner in all of sports! Just don’t pay attention to his record in the past 5 years. Don’t pay attention to the stories, QUOTING KIFFIN, about his current beef with Al Davis. Just believe Al is the best! Otherwise, you’re a sheep who’s been sucked in by the media!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Its easy you go to the library (which I know means leaving your moms basement)you pick up a book and then you read. You can even start with something simple and easy like see spot run.
But just do it you really need to start reading MR its about time. Do you have a library card because if you don’t I can help you get one. I don’t mind helping the less fortunate learn how to read. After all remember I am a good Samaritan.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Jamarcus on Sirius now
August 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Im playin Madden 09 today on Xbox live, got the day off for it. McFadden is badass in it.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
S&B,
I am self-employed.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Dakota, can we go one day without your racism?
August 12th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
PLease post what he talks about, I dont habe Sirius
August 12th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Mike Brown, Bengals
Wayne Weaver, Jaguars
Both of these guys have been quoted saying “Why would I want to change anything about this team we are turning a profit”
Yeah I would rather have these guys than Al Davis any day!!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Voldemort
A day off of work to play Madden..that’s almost as good as sex!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Can’t hear you, SNB666. I’m sucked in by the media. The tractor beams are pulling me. I’m yet to submit myself to the faith that Al Davis, despite his 19-61 record, is the sharpest GM in all of sports. I just can’t do it. The media’s tractor beams are pulling me away. I’m sucked in! Sucked in, I tell ya!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
What Dakota said!
“pathetic, mind numbing anti-Al rants?”
I wish I would have thought of that one.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Here is a blurb from one Madden 09 review, lol, they burn KC!
“Not-So Mighty K.C.: The Dolphins are predictably bad, but if you want a team that you can roll up yards and achievement points against, pick on the Chiefs. If Madden 09 is any indication, this is going to be a loooong season in Kansas City because this team reeks worse than a jockstrap after two-a-days.”
August 12th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
If you are going to post numbers don’t slant it like the media be a man and show the whole picture. Taking things out of context is for headline grabbers.
We are actually 400-312 against the entire NFL
http://www.raiders.com/History/Default.aspx?id=882
August 12th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
SilverNBlack666, I’ll stop my pathetic, mind numbing anti-Al rants when Lane Kiffin does. Deal?
August 12th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
MR,
You are widely known as being the most ignorant, self-serving sob on this blog. You can take your comment and shove it up your azz you simpleminded twerp. If you were any more pathetic, even Arizona Cardinals’ fans would feel bad for you.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
SilverNBlack666, are we not 19-61 in the past 5 years? Is that your contention?
August 12th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Whatever you say, Dakota. Just keep your racist views to yourself. I’m sure it’s against the rules here and if you keep it up the mods will eventually act.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
19-61
19-61
19-61
Your song and dance is getting very old MR. Please, try to come up with something new for a change.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
19-61
August 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
MR is the most nieve person that posts on this site. he takes negative opinions that he reads as fact.
I don’t think his opinions are his own.
Please forgive him for being such a follower.
I have said it before, You don’t give your 18 yr old some the keys to your Porche and say, do with it as you wish. He has to first prove to me that he can do the job.
Hiring and firing staff is Al’s job and coaching is Kiff’s job. Kiff needs to focus on the players that he has and leave the rest to Al.
I like Kiff, but he is starting to act his age. Man up and coach the players that you have. All has sign a lot of talent to this team. Some may be question marks, but if Kiff does his job well, the ?’s will turn into !’s
August 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
There is “nothing new”. It’s just 19-61, and a slight improvement on our first string defense in one preseason game. That’s it.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
My name is MR, and I have a problem. I hate Al Davis so much I have to go on blogs everyday and post the same jargon over and over and over again. No one listens to me, but it temporarily alleviates my psychosis, so I can’t stop.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
dakota and others that are picking up their madden 09 today, if any of you are interested maybe we can set up a tournament. I am picking up my copy today for the ps3. my ps3 network id is: NoLuv4Hoes if you guys want to add me to your friends list i will do the same.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
My name is MR, and I have done nothing with my life, so I have to constantly bash on Al Davis, who accomplished more in his first 25 years than I will in my entire life, and my next life, and even my next life, to make myself feel better. That is how pathetic I am.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
McRaider, it’s “naive”.
Also, an Al Davis worshiper like you actually calling someone else a “follower” is flat hilarious.
And, you’re bringing up Kiffin’s age, and him “acting his age”…again, why did Al hire him if his age and immaturity could have been a factor? What is the deal with Al Davis hiring all of these people who he obviously feels aren’t qualified to be head coaches in this league? Does he just get a kick out of condescending to people? When is Al Davis going to drop his own childish “loyalty” games and start focusing on building a winning franchise? Because that’s all Kiffin is trying to do.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Dakota Post number 258 LMFAO
August 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
19-61,
Gruden,
Ron Wolf,
blah blah blah
August 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Nobody is acting more like a kid right now than Al Davis. Lane Kiffin is the one focused on winning. Al Davis is the one crying in the corner because someone else is playing with all of his toys.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
No, we’re not 0-0. We’ve got a winning record vs. the entire NFL, SNB666, remember? We’re winning! We’re better than the rest of the league! Isn’t that the point you were trying to make earlier? 0-0 means that we’re entirely unproven. That’s a pretty big downgrade on your part.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Situation: Raiders running out clock against niners, game clock is running and 2:20 remains til end of game, play clock at 21 seconds and running.
It’s a no-brainer to let clock run down to 2 min warning. Tui at QB, brings team to line, runs play at 2:02.
Now I know this is nitpicking, but it’s the little things that add up. Yeah, it’s a meaningless pre-season game, but it brings into question Kiffin’s clock management.
If I’m not mistaken, there was at least one questionable decision Kiffin made in the final stages of the last game against the Chargers last year. Can’t remember exactly what it was, but I do remember that it had me scratching my head.
Am I over-reacting ? Probably. But prudent clock management, especially at the end of games, is an important quality a top notch coach should posess.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
RaiderFan, is Lane Kiffin qualified to be head coach of the Oakland Raiders, or not?
August 12th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
my theory is you can never work too hard but i think the guys need a day of film and to stay off the field. THey seem to need a day of physical rest. It does us all good once in a while.
i was called bipolar before.. maybe psychosis? I’ll check symptoms.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Dakota, I’m skimming through your posts and trying to find something of substance, but it’s a negative. Look, adults are talking here, so go back to your shed and curse “the f*****g Chinese”.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder
WOW now that was freaking cool I wish I would have said that!!
August 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
I have to go now, but I will see you soon MR.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
syphillis is a cause of psychotic behavior. hmmmm maybe i’m not bipolar
August 12th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
MR, I do not think that Al has made all the right choices. I am also not saying that Al should not let Kiff coach. I see you can correct my spelling, but you can’t read what I type.
Al did not hire him to hire and fire staff, he hired him to coach.
I think what Al told him was to “coach the team and work with the staff that you have. If you don’t like it sign here.”
August 12th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
ExLA, Dakota didn’t specify the government. He just said the “f*****g Chinese”. Then you concurred, adding stereotypical jabs about eating dogs and spitting. So, I ask again, what is the root of your racism? Most racists were abused as children. What happened to you?
August 12th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Results thus far in the
Online Olympic event of Verbal Troll Bashing.
Dakota scored a 8.8 a 9.2 and a 9.8
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder just scored a 9.9 a new record!!
Oakglenn is holding steady at 9.1
Jim (ct raider) and Quagmire’d are still waiting their turn however
August 12th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
McRaider just scored a 8.8
August 12th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
McRaider, Al has two options here: If he likes what Lane is doing, keep him. If he doesn’t, fire him. This is the NFL, McRaider. It’s a profession. When Al hired Lane Kiffin, it was under the assumption that he was QUALIFIED to be a head coach in this league. Most head coaches get heavy handed with personnel, even at the gate. It’s part of their competitive nature. They want their players. Only the mindless puppets, just happy to have a job, don’t. It’s obvious now Kiffin does not fall in the latter category, and he’s not going to change. So, why doesn’t Al just fire him? Just try and answer that question.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
SilverNBlack666, you’re starting to become a cheerleader, with no input to offer, like Dakota. It’s not a respectable position to be in. Either get into the fight, talk about something else, or leave. I’m just trying to help you.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
i’m not bashing but i will correct that CHina is cats and Koreans are dogs.
Been to both. although in an alley.. anything goes.
If you’re found to be/have psychosis.. are your bills waived during time of hospitalization?
although.. i am competative and a 9.9 hmmmmm
August 12th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
What I love about Oakglenn is that he talks down to the rest of you, like you’re all his kids, and barks orders at you telling you to “ignore the trolls”, when he has no intention of ignoring these so called “trolls” himself.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Oakglenn is the new leader with a 9.7 on post number 295!
PS. I don’t talk to trolls.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
i don’t have to prove it. My parents are pure both ways. and i’ll head butt you until you submit.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
MR, the issue I raise isn’t whether Kiffin is qualified to be head coach. Some people doubted whether he had the experience necessary to be head coach. I’m not one of them. Mr. Davis, has done very well when he’s hired young, relatively unproven coaches to head the team. Even a Davis basher should be willing to admit that. No, Kiffin being qualified to head coach the Raiders wasn’t the issue I brought up.
I definitely liked Kiffin’s aggressiveness to consistently go for it on 4th down against the niners and suspect that he’d have done alot of that even if Janikowski wasn’t injured.
That being said, not running the clock down to the 2 minute warning at the end of the niner game was a definite mistake. We don’t have enough evidence yet to know how good of a coach Kiffin is going to be. I’m just saying it’s legitimate to question his clock management ability. We certainly don’t want to see a similar mismanagement of the clock, especially in a tighter game that really counts.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Kiffin didn’t give a damn about winning the game against SF. he just wanted to get his people playing time. He put them in his scenerio and used the SF opposition as live practice.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
MR,
Let’s get this into your thick skull without content. Dakota’s comment was easy to acknowledge that it was UNDERSTOOD to mean the Gov’t not a prejudice on a 1 on 1 basis. But in your mind, you intentionally look for a reason to call anyone rascist.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
i’m a violent irishman! I may bash too hard.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Exactly Jim. And I LOVED that he went for it on fourth down, went for the 2 point conversion, used the game as a live practice against an opponent in front of a crowd. Perfect. When Mike Nolan opted to kick the FG with 15 seconds to go in the half, I thought that was the most rancid coaching decision I have seen in awhile. Jesus, dude, it’s a practice. Go for it!!
August 12th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
A violent Irishman???? Couldn’t be. Jim did you hear the one about the Irishman leaving a bar???? Yeah, no one has heard that.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
SilverNblack666,
You gave me a 9.9 in post 292. Maybe if someone J Holmes him with a 10, he will go away! LOL
August 12th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
unlike the free world the opening of the olympics was run by a communist country. A bunch of civilian chinese would not be allowed to do that. Therefore, when Dakota referenced the F’n chinese (which i proved they are), he was obviously referring to the communist government. peeps can’t do what they want there. Long live the Tieneman heroes of 1989 (i was in hong kong then)
August 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
oakglenn.. that was pretty good!!!!!!! i watched the packers kick a fg last night in the 1st or 2nd qtr and i was wondering “why?”. what the f good does that do? you can get fg practice during your scrimmages all week.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Jim (ct raider) Says:
August 12th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
i don’t have to prove it. My parents are pure both ways. and i’ll head butt you until you submit
___________________________________
Classic!
Submit
Submit
Submit
August 12th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
btw i have a tradition of popping a jameson prior to every kickoff in the beginning of the game and then after every raider scored.
I HAVEN’T BEEN DRUNK DURING A RAIDER GAME IN YEARS!!!!!
August 12th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Everytime he starts that rant
we should “Submit” attack his azz
August 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Maybe i proved my irishness to him. i think he’s gone. or doing a lot of research on the net to start asking “tough” questions.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Call it a virtual Head Butt
August 12th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
like: do you eat luck charms 19 out of 61 times?
August 12th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Lucky
August 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder:
if you’re a lawyer i need your number!
August 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Yup, the contrast between Kiffin’s aggressive, ‘hey it’s preseason, let’s see what we’ve got’ attitude, comapred with Nolan’s ‘let’s kick a chip shot FG instead of seeing how my players will react to converting a 4th down and goal to go’, really stood out.
I’m hoping that the rest of pre-season allows the Raiders to show improvement in the passing game, and that Kiffin emphasizes that some more.
I’m feeling pretty good about the running game, not so confident about the passing game.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
i love lucky charms.. but i havent’ had them in years. i love the marshmellows.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder
a John Holmes perfect 10 is almost unattainable like the tripple Lindy and now that Rodney Dangerfield is dead we may never see the tripple Lindy ever again.
But yeas I may award a perfect 10 by days end!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
i know dakota has a friend for life in Exlaraiderseasonticketholder!!! WHo else would go through all that to vindicate anyone???
August 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Do you eat Lucky charms for breakfast
19 out of 61 times?
screwed that up…damn
August 12th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
seeing i was attacked by MR and i actually had not shot a missile his direction previous.. i must now think, think, and think. Let me get a beer and i’ll be back for the 10 spot!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
raider83: dude.. you only get one maybe two chances the most. third one is out!
although, i’m starting to crave!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Jim (Ct raider) you have a shot
its just the preliminary round as the Troll is like a cockroach they don’t go away easily.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
just popped open a bud light. i used to be a heineken man but i gained WEIGH (get it) too much weight! i’m trying to lower my calories. I dropped 14lbs in the last 21 days (prior the weekend.. a pos 5 damn it)
August 12th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
He is now your biotch.
Submit him at will
August 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
I hate the marshmellows
August 12th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
pressure is unbearing!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
100,000 battered women in this country and I have been eating mine plain this whole tome!!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I know I know I know
just laffin my azz off about the head butt…
and just like in real life, it ALWAYS shuts them up.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
gotta disagree with my boy IWILL..it is nearly impossible for Russell to be near the bottom as a passer in 2008. I think people forgot that SD game last year. He will be fine. Kiffin will not tip his hand at all. I expect Russell to pass no more tahn 25 times a game until the middle part of the season when Carolina and Atlanta come to town then when we play back to back road games in Miami and Denver. just you people watch Russell will be fine this season.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
s&b: where the hell did you get that one??? that was funny!
disappointed in mcraider. one and out. gives us a bad rap!
Thanks JerrY!
speaking of raps.. do i get extra points or credentials for throwing down a rap from an irishman about mr?
August 12th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Do we get to throw the ball around with Howie or is this one of those internet dealies?? The way all my comments have been deleted, I don’t think I’m going ot make the cut list.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
jim yes after you have 6 irish car bombs at the pub
August 12th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Like the old saying goes “The more things change, the more they stay the same”.
I would like to give a big shout out to all of my old schoolers:
Dakota (thanks for Turiaf), OG (still holding it down), Raider Dell (blues master 5000), Bob Marley (always singing that Redemption Song of his), Exlaraiderseasonticketholder, SNB666, Quagmire’d (allll riiiggghhhht) and all of my other sick Raider brethren.
It’s good to be back.
One Nation
August 12th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Wow,
Most of my comments have been deleted. I quess I got to far off the subject of Raider Football. But MR can do that to you.
Sorry Moderator! lol
August 12th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
i lost 14 lbs.. by switching off tuna one day and pasta the next.. and no lie… I DRANK EVERY NIGHT!!!!!!!!
Also, a few veggies and i ran a lot. OH .. I also drank a lot of water during work and prior to going out.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
extra: i couldn’t find your 9.9. i was trying to get an idea. hurry up and grade me b 4 it’s gone.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Sup Raiderdogg!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Moderator,
I love the Chinese people, just not their f—-n Gov’t
August 12th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
s&B ??? did you rate it? it’s gone.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IogivYKL9Eo This Is why I hate moss.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
S&b did you read the rap????????? it was a threes company theme
August 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
That was some of my best rational writing in a long time and it’s gone into internet never never land.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
exla: dude, i rapped!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
666,
Sorry but you’re an embarrassment to the Raider Nation.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
666,
I was bleedin Silver & Black before you were born.
You’re a desperate wannabe to something you know nothing about.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
moss hater: that was perfect! except missed the td drop in denver. I wanted to go down and kick his *** as 60000 fans laughed at me!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
did anyone see my rap???????? wth.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
new thread
August 12th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
666,
The best thing a neophyte like you could do, is listen twice as much as you speak.
But you’re too arrogant for that, too needy as well.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Damn I forgot how many battles continue in this joint.
KoolKell -
I’m thinking about purchasing some property up in Eugene, OR. Any thoughts about the area?
August 12th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
kk came swinging! damn!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Dogggggggg is in the house!! Say RD, I have this ‘98 Red Rocks Mule show I somehow have to get you!!
August 12th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Dmac you are exactly right. Randy Moss was brought in here to lead the team, lead by example, be an All Pro. He was an All Pro all right. He was an All Pro pain in the ass, who sulked, cashed his checks, and made us all look stupid. Eff that guy.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Dogg,
Eugene is a college town which is good, especially if you’re going to rent it out.
If you’re moving there….depends on what you want and your situation.
Me, personally, I like the coastal area near Portland, it’s affordable too.
Location, Location, Location. Houses in top elementary school districts is good location, so is waterfront, views, intrinsic value that doesn’t go away.
Do it.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
And fart shell allowed him to play when he clearly wasn’t trying, and put jp on the bench to only recieve one catch when he atleast wanted to play.): And then Randy goes and puts up 23 td’s in patsy ville. Man When them pats come to town I got ma batteries ready and I’m aimin fo that nappy fro.(:
August 12th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
MR,
Al’s issue with Kiff is that he is trying to hire and fire coaches, but that was not written in his job description.
Al ans even kiff has stated that in the last two draft they got the players that they wanted. he might not like the coaches, and some player he might not be able to get rid of, but there are players on the team that he wanted.
oh and wasn’t he the one that ask Al to trade Moss. If so, Al did it for Kiffin.
To answer your questions, Kiffin has not earned the right hire and fire as he pleases.
Do you think Jerry Jones would allow even a vet like wade to hire and fire who he wants.
The difference is that Al is always the bad guy and take what you read and here on tv as fact. Learn to think for yourself dude.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
I’m about to go pick up my copy of Madden but I must say that Oakglenn, you are THE MAN!
I will be back later and we will talk.
Thanks for the info KK
August 12th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Mcraider after seeing randy moss on video wouldn’t you have considered getting rid of randy moss too? He wasn’t trying. But then again we brought in daunte culpepper afterwards and he probably would have put up more effort. But all in all randy isn’t the first person I’d want on my team. Because the nfl is sa funny sport. one moment your on top and the next you at the bottom. And with him if things aren’t going right he does nothing to make it better. When adversity strikes you expect, and need your star players to show up but with randy all he does is give up. So F**k randy right in the stinker.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I agreed with getting rid of Randy. I am just pointing out that Al listen to Kiffin and did what was needed for his to succeed as the HC.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Russell and the WR’S need to be talking to each other more from what it sounds like right now when it comes to getting on the same damn page in the passing game.
The need to step it up! They need to be hungry, confident and make positive things happen!
August 12th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I was just watching McDaddy run up the middle against the niners. I swear he was transported ahead 2 yards in the twinkling of a eye. He is unbelievably fast. I bet shanarat is freaking out.
August 12th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
AndrewsMom,
DMC definitely is not afraid to hit someone…wait until he gets loose on one and when he gets the ball in the open field as a receiver! WOW!
August 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
First time poster to this site. i read this site because like everyone i like to keep up on my beloved raiders..good or bad. But i have to finallly come out and say that this guy “Jerry” gives us fans the most negative news he can find. I read other blogs from the same practice and they of course tell the bad but they also give us both sides of the coin. If i did not know better i’d say “Jerry” is a Raider hater.
He goes out of his way to give us bad news. One poster last week shared a link to Jason’s blog where he talked about a training camp day that Jerry also wrote about. I’m telling you that it seemed like they were from two different days.
Sorry for the long post but sometimes i want to hear some good news especially if there is some to tell!
August 14th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Boy oh boy this Kiffin character and I do mean character is a real piece of work. I sure hope he leads us to some wins this year. Kiffin will have very few excuses for losing and another 4 or 5 win season after all the added players and all the money spent to retain talent, Kiffin better win or he will walk the plank.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
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