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Cooper among cuts

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.

No confirmation from the Raiders yet, but according to an NFL source, safety and special teams player Jarrod Cooper was cut Monday.

Also released were veteran defensive end Greg Spires and linebacker Grant Irons.

The Raiders claimed fullback Luke Lawton, who was waived by Philadelphia, and signed defensive back Marviel Underwood out of San Diego State. Underwood starred locally at San Leandro High.

Lawton, 6-foot and 240 pounds, has also been property of the Bills, Giants, Falcons, Jets and Colts. Lawton made the Buffalo Bills as an undrafted free agent out of McNeese State in 2004.

Three players were placed on injured reserve, ending their seasons: wide receiver Drew Carter, fullback Oren O’Neal and cornerback John Bowie.

More to come later . . .

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389 Responses to “Cooper among cuts”

  1. Big Daddy WooWoo Says:

    I guess we need special teamers that can play a position.

  2. Moron Says:

    first!

  3. Brien Says:

    Cooper was no good after the roids left his system

  4. Moron Says:

    Damn! I am a moron!

  5. Big Daddy WooWoo Says:

    And another scholarship revoked?

  6. Brien Says:

    Greg Spires gone!!!!!! Yeah that means Trevor Scott is quite on thier mind and he did get in the first half

  7. Big Daddy WooWoo Says:

    BTW: Michael Bush made a nice coverage play…

  8. Brien Says:

    Big daddy- yeah kiffin has obviously lost control

  9. Brien Says:

    Trade for Deverey Henderson right now!!!!

  10. Big Daddy WooWoo Says:

    or perhaps the verbal jabs to the press get results?

    Either way, all those moves make sense to me.

  11. Brien Says:

    Young guy with excellent speed and moves with a pair of good hands……..they love robert meachem and need a draft pick

  12. Brien Says:

    Big Daddy of course they do but now the moves that need to be done Wade at center McQ at RT

  13. Dakota Says:

    A little info on Lawton:
    _____________________________________________________
    COLTS TRADE LUKE LAWTON TO EAGLES
    Posted by Michael David Smith on June 6, 2008, 12:19 p.m. EDT
    The Philadelphia Eagles have announced the acquisition of fullback Luke Lawton in a trade with the Colts.

    Indianapolis received a conditional 2009 draft choice, which probably means the Eagles will get a chance to try Lawton out through training camp and the preseason and will only have to give compensation to the Colts if Lawton makes the roster.

    The 27-year-old Lawton has spent time on the Giants’ and Bills’ practice squads and played four games for the Jets in 2005 and 11 for the Colts in 2007. He has never started a game, but did have a notable highlight last year when he caught a shovel pass from Peyton Manning for a one-yard touchdown against the Jaguars. He’s also a contributor on special teams.

    That the Eagles felt the need to acquire a fullback could be a sign that the coaching staff has doubts about the ability of Dan Klecko to make the transition from defensive tackle to fullback. Thomas Tapeh, who played fullback for the Eagles last season, signed with the Vikings as a free agent.
    ______________________________________________________

    Better than nothing!

  14. vegas raider Says:

    Oren and Cooper were two leaders of the special teams, with Ekubejia(I tried). With Higgins back there looking ready to fumble at any moment, two core special teams guys gone, Lechler ailing, and Seabass being Seabass, special teams look like it might be an issue from time to time this year

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  16. Brien Says:

    Vegas……watch Higgins take 2 punts for TDs this year……..people are hating big time on the guy

  17. Thec Says:

    Archuleta should be next up….

  18. Big Daddy WooWoo Says:

    I thought the coverage looked pretty good so far this year.

    Special Teams is a young man’s part of the game, and leaders from the past are often too old, slow and wise to do that kind of sh!t.

  19. Brien Says:

    Archuletta hahahahahahahaha camp fodder

  20. larry Says:

    Devery Henderson? we should be patient more cuts are gonna be made even if we wait till final cuts for a WR.

  21. Brien Says:

    Big Daddy- yes the coverage has been better thus far

  22. Dakota Says:

    I agree with Brien, I still have hope for JLH. If the kid can just learn not to field punts inside the 8 and to hold on to the ball and to run a crisp route we might have a playmaker…sounds like a lot to overcome, but those things are all coachable.

  23. Big Daddy WooWoo Says:

    I wonder if they’ll try Bush at FB some…

    He’s got the size and the hands.

  24. Brien Says:

    Larry very true……..an Andre Rison type of signing like 2000? I just dont want it to be joe horn getting signed after we see a bunch of crap get let go

  25. Brien Says:

    Higgins can catch the football……..he is gonna surprise people this year on offense

  26. Brien Says:

    Dakota- we gotta get Grove out of there. John Wade is just a better player……I have zero confidence in the guy. No bullshhhhhhhit articles about his strength will change my mind…..All Iknow is the scoring drive Russell had was with Wade out there

  27. Thec Says:

    Higgins is also going to step up as aWR….

  28. Reality Is Clear as a bell Says:

    ding

  29. Brien Says:

    Thec……really he will……i will keep saying it…..IN TODAY’S NFL YOU NEED A SMALL QUICK TYPE OF WR TO FIT INTO SMALLER AREAS……..and JLH is that guy…….He will be a faster Wes Welker for us this season as it progresses

  30. The Dude Says:

    Bush at full back would be perfect. He is versatile enough and big enough. He is wasted talent if they only keep him as a third down back. Griffith is one of the best FB in the game though just not so good at blocking. I would have taken Chris Henry now.

  31. Scottish Raider Says:

    Cutting Cooper must mean that Branch is healthy (enough), Rashad Baker isn’t badly hurt and Hiram Eugene is still pitching for a spot.

    Glad to see the Irons farce has ended. Game Ready. Game Over.

    Spires was always vulnerable - especially as Scott is a big improver.

    Luke Lawton was the 6th ranked FB in 2004 - and he can also longsnap.

    Marviel Underwood is an Oakland boy and 4th round pick by the Packers. Doing okay until, guess what, he did his ACL. Does anyone see a pattern emerging?

  32. Zay Says:

    Dude they hate on him because he gots mops for hands and makes poor decisions. Man the guy not only fielded a punt around the 5 yard line but he then ran into the endzone!! Last year he was a big mess!! Man can we get Tim Brown out of retirement. Could probably catch better than most guys on our roster but at least he wont muff punts. He’s good to at least waive his arm above his head and not run into the endzone!! Saturday’s game-although it looked bad in all honestly I do not believe it’s as bad as it seemed. Our game plan was basically go back to pass over and over again. Yeah Jamarcus didn’t have a lot of protection but we were so pass heavy that everyone could just point there ears down and come in every play in most of the first half. Our game is going to be pound the ball and mix in the pass to allow some play action.

  33. Dakota Says:

    Brien,

    Personally, I don’t care for any of our centers…I just hope the job goes to the best man, be it Wade or Grove. I always tend to cheer on our own draft picks so I hope Grove wins the job.

  34. RaiderMight Says:

    Adios Coop! Was nice having him around, but the last two year’s he’s under performed and the roids issue didn’t help.

    Looks like Branch is going to start stepping up.

  35. Dakota Says:

    Strange article on Charles Woodson for those who care:

    http://www.sportsline.com/spin/story/10946846

  36. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Mbush as FB Rankin a 3rd RB have Bush and Mcfadden in the backfield at once i like it very true waste of talent as a 3rd RB

  37. Brien Says:

    Dakota- Wade has been part of extremely tough run games and doesnt give up many sacks nor gets overpowered

  38. vegas raider Says:

    Brien,

    He might, but this preseason he has one for TD and one fumble to a TD. Not an even trade. I have more confidence in him becoming a good 3rd receiver than an above average return man.

  39. Zay Says:

    Brien-I was thinking “Damn where’s an Andre Rison type of pick up when you need it” Hmmm can Joe Horn be our answer-past his prime definitely but he is serviceable and would not come at a steep price.

  40. Brien Says:

    Branch made a heullva tackle on special teams in saturday……thats what they love

  41. Scottish Raider Says:

    I am disappointed that Jesse Boone hasn’t made a bigger impression in camp. An undrafted rookie who auditioned by pickup lights and took a swipe at Warren Sapp on his first day, Boone seemed ideal.

    Never mind.

    When are we ever going to get shot of John Bowie? Is he the worst draft pick in living memory?

  42. Brien Says:

    Zay I really dont want Horn but what the phuck are you gonna say if AL signs him? Shhhhhhiiit

  43. Brien Says:

    and horn was on ESPN saying that he wants to go to a contending team and most dont think that is us except US

  44. Brien Says:

    Scottish……..Derrick Gibson was because we acutally got to see him play

  45. Brien Says:

    John Wade for center in 2008!!!

  46. La Milicia Negra Says:

    all good cuts..

    Thanks Kiffin..

  47. Dakota Says:

    Worst pick ever…Patrick Bates???

  48. Brien Says:

    Kalimba edwards keep it up!!!

  49. Brien Says:

    As long as Kelly is healthy……people will see what I mean when it shows Warren Crapp was the reason forthe run defense sucking

  50. La Milicia Negra Says:

    are there a limit for the IR list?

  51. Brien Says:

    Dakota that name is not allowed around here

  52. Zay Says:

    Well I do not prefer Horn-I would rather get Boldin but would have to give up too much to get him. Joe Horn is not that good at this point of his career where a “contender” will be dying to get him-he might just have to settle where someone will take him or he might just “Sprewell” his self out of the league.

  53. Brien Says:

    Burgess better not be getting his butt pushed 5-6 yards downfield again

  54. Coach on Wheels Says:

    REPOST

    The Black Clouds and Silver Linings

    BC - The Raiders lost their 2nd game in a row.
    SL - The Raiders outplayed SF (4 quarters), Tenn (4 qrts) and Arz (2 qtrs) in general this preseason. They did so when they were obviously not playing to win. The scores were meaningless.

    BC - The starting offense has scored only 1 TD in roughly 6 quarters of play. The red zone offense has struggled greatly.
    SL - Kiffin obviously tested red zone passing packages against Ariz when a run might have scored. Also, obvious regular season FG tries were not attempted in order to give the offense more work. Kiffin has obviously not opened up the playbook as evidenced by no Fades, Boots or othe red zone staples.

    BC - Russell looks like a rookie at times. He sacked himself 2 times versus Arz. Once by holding the ball way too long and his last sack he was slipping down at the top of his drop before the D got there. He has forced passes into double coverage. He has yet to connect on any deep pass.
    SL - JR may have auto-sacked twice but he escaped pressure many more times. He is mobile and if Oakland establishes the run, he can be deadly in play-action as his only TD drive showed. He had only 1 INT and NO fumbles which is huge. As Kiffin has preached, given the supporting cast he can be really good.

    BC - ONeal. This injury is by far the worst for what the Raiders want to do.
    SL - Griffith is a starter quality FB and does Wakefield want to add FB to his resume’?

    BC - Carter. The #2 guy is a double problem because Curry is a better slot #3 type. It hurts 2 players.
    SL - Despite the “castoff” label, the reality is guys like Carter would be bubble players on teams like NE, Indy, Cinn and so on. That means a cut buble player from a top team could easily come in and have the same potetial “castoff” Carter did.

    BC - The O-line gave up 4 sacks and many pressures.
    SL - Kiffin all but told the D in Arz “we’re passing” in the media and with empty backfield formations. He gave the D an advantage and told his o-line to handle it. Considering, they actually did well. This following a solid game gainst a top-tier Tenn D. With the threat of running plays, you can bet speed rushers will have to slow down or get gashed. Cable seems to be making a solid if not great line out of these guys. Provided they don’t have to pass every play - a big challenge for even the best lines in the NFL.

    BC - W R’s
    SL - Walker looked better and the RB and TE are solid. Remember, 1 solid WR is all that’s needed if you have a solid ground game and a receiving TE like Miller.

    Defense Breakdown later.

  55. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Brien Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    As long as Kelly is healthy……people will see what I mean when it shows Warren Crapp was the reason forthe run defense sucking
    ____________________________________________

    totally agree, kinda weird we sucked as long as he was a part of this team.. thank God he is gone

  56. Brien Says:

    Zay he is prolly only a 4th WR these days……..Deverey Henderson is the guy to get

  57. Brien Says:

    Me and La “Milicia” Negra agree? Ok the rapture is on its way

  58. Scottish Raider Says:

    We took Bowie at No 110, at 119 the Packers took OT Allen Barbre. Barbre looks like the creme de la creme, Bowie is probably the crud de la crud.

  59. Brien Says:

    Warren Crapp= big talker and didnt do shhhhhhhhit in Oakland………and no 2006 didn’t impress me

  60. Brien Says:

    Would you trade for Ruvell Martin? He is nada but a 4th WR in GB

  61. Armchair QB Says:

    Thec-

    When Higgins steps up as a receiver he probably will draw a five yard offsides penalty.

    Higgins may end up being a good return guy. I doubt he will be more than a mediocre receiver, similar to our last speedy guy, James Jett. I just don’t think he has receiver instincts. And Higgins doesn’t even come with the fast-sounding last name.

    Just being small and fast doesn’t make you a good NFL receiver. Desean Jackson, like Higgins, also has a TD punt return this pre-season. He also has 16 receptions so far. That’s because he is a true receiver. Even if he starts all season, Higgins probably doesn’t catch more than 30 passes. If the Raiders don’t add any receivers, I would expect this season’s most productive WR’s to be Curry, Walker, Schilens and Watkins n that order.

  62. vegas raider Says:

    Sapp should have never been on the field during obvious run plays. Last game against San Diego was what Warren was all about, pushed around all game until he shot the gap and forced a fumble on the handoff. One highlight play wrapped around tons of bad plays. In all fairness to Warren, other than maybe Burgess, nobody put more consistant pressure on the QB than Sapp did during his years here.

  63. El Dirty Says:

    Tell me you guys didn’t like warren suplexing QB’s in 06… Haha that was funny stuff

  64. Zay Says:

    Sapp came to us 3-4 years too late.

  65. Dakota Says:

    Worst Raider 1st round picks in the last 20 years???

    My list is as follows:

    1. Patrick Bates 1993
    2. Todd Marinovich 1991
    3. Scott Davis 1988
    4. Rickey Dudley 1996
    5. Matt Stinchcomb 1999
    6. Derrick Gibson 2001
    7. Tyler Brayton 2003
    8. Phillip Buchanon 2002
    9. Robert Gallery 2004

  66. Brien Says:

    Armchair terrible ending to that analysis

  67. Scottish Raider Says:

    Speaking of Saint’s WRs. I understand that Lance Moore might be available. He is an RFA but apparantly hasn’t re-signed…and he has talent as both a WR and returner.

    Does anybody if he is still available?

  68. Tommy Trojan Says:

    Barbre should have been off the board in the 2nd, I was beyond pissed when we passed him.

  69. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I have a guess that we will cut Lawton and sign this guy, we play the same run game as texans..

    ___________________________________________

    TEXANS WAIVE COOK AFTER ARREST
    Posted by Michael David Smith on August 25, 2008, 6:11 p.m.

    Last week Texans fullback Jameel Cook got arrested, and now he’s out of a job.

    Cook, who was charged with marijuana possession, was placed on waivers today, the Houston Chronicle is reporting.

    Cook played all 16 games for the Texans last season, but he has never been a regular starter. He serves as the latest reminder that if you’re in the NFL and you want to keep your job after getting arrested, you’d better be more than just a marginal, bottom-of-the-roster player.

    The Chronicle reports that the Texans have re-signed fullback Jon Abbate, who was on their practice squad last season, to take Cook’s place on the roster.

  70. Brien Says:

    Explain how JLH doesnt have as a WR? Say something that doesn’t sound borderline nuts

  71. thesnake Says:

    we need anquain bolden!

  72. Scottish Raider Says:

    Barbre was a huge miss and we also passed on Manny Ramirez at 118. Bowie was just such a dumb, stupid, brainless pick.

    I blame Lombardi - for everything.

  73. SacRaider Says:

    Dakota- If you’re going to put Buchanon and Gallery on the list, then you have to put Janikowski on there too. 1st round pick on a kicker whos lost us more games than hes won for us.. A freakin 1st round kicker..

  74. Brien Says:

    johnnie lee higgins is a football player…….just you watch this season……sad carter got hurt but this may be a blessing in disguise……you people know how yo reacted whrn you finally got your big chance

  75. Rick The Hunter Says:

    I agree that we should make a trade for Devery Henderson. I said it few days ago that we should take a look at Devery Henderson as well as Chad Jackson of the Patriots. Though not as tall as Drew Carter, they’re about even on level of talent except Henderson is lightning fast. Chad Jackson appears to have better hands than both Henderson and Carter, but also had some injury issues, but also appears to be back to his full health. The question is do we wanna give up more future draft picks to obtain them becuase thats what those teams would probably ask for in return. YA KNOW?!

  76. Brien Says:

    Jano doesnt deserve to be on that list at all Sac

  77. KoolKell Says:

    Thec Says:
    August 22nd, 2008 at 11:26 am
    I should tone down my Optimism for what reason or purpose?

  78. Tommy Trojan Says:

    I was not concerned with Ramirez because he was a “Power Guy” and looks confused in space. He wouldn’t fit well with us and I think he’s out of place with the Lions. He would actually look good with the Cardinals or Steelers.

  79. Brien Says:

    Also jacksonville got a large group of WR…………i would take matt jones but tghis is cali and we got mountains of coke…….how would he handle it

  80. Dakota Says:

    SacRaider,

    Man, leaving Seabass off the list was a difficult choice, same with Anthony Smith and Mo Collins, but I didn’t want the list to be more than 50% of all our 1st round draft picks over the past 20 years…that might depress some Al Davis sycophants around here, lol.

  81. Terrapin Says:

    I mentioned before COW that they may want to give Wakefield a serious look at FB. He’s an experience blocker with a big body. I’m sure he can handle blitz pickups as they are much easier for RBs than Linemen. The only problem with Wakefield I can think of is he may not be much of an option out of the backfield. That could be the determining factor.

    MB is no FB people. Thats a TFlores idea that needs to be squashed unless Kiffin has some trickery up his sleeves. I personally believe having MAllen at FB was not a good move. Its good to have him and Bo on the same field at the same time but really, MAllen was subpar at FB and so too would MB be. But don’t let me talk sense in ya’. Bush is no FB. Don’t ruin a gift before you unwrap it.

  82. Brien Says:

    Terp exactly about Bush

  83. Brien Says:

    Brien<———proud sycophant and kool-aid gulper

  84. Reality Says:

    But Dakota,
    If you looked at each teams’ No 1 picks over the past 20 years, i wonder if they’d have trouble coming up with 10 busts? I bet not. Hard to have perspective sometimes whether our grass is as green as the next teams . . .

  85. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Brien Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    johnnie lee higgins is a football player…….just you watch this season……sad carter got hurt but this may be a blessing in disguise……you people know how yo reacted whrn you finally got your big chance
    ____________________________________________

    Okay the world will last another day.. I totally disagree about being a blessing in disguise.. Carter will be missed, he is tall and fast enough.. JLH is so small and fast..

    Curry is best as slot and carter is best as #2, best mix ecer.. the only spot JLH can play is in the slot.. and Carters vacuum forces Curry up as #2..

    this can nowhere be a blessing in disguise..

  86. KoolKell Says:

    JLH seems new to the game of football. Low football IQ. Plays because he can run fast.

  87. Scottish Raider Says:

    Ramirez is a bulldozer - but I would have made him into a Center. He has the power of two Jake Groves and I just think Olines suffer if the Center can’t back-up the rush.

  88. Brien Says:

    Trade for Deverey Henderson………or Ruvell Martin…….or one of those guys in Jacksonville

  89. La Milicia Negra Says:

    cr4p! I just realized something..

  90. Terrapin Says:

    This board is so fickle. Last week JLH was getting crucified. Next week, he had a good game and you barely hear a whisper. So fickle - keep your heads on straight will ya’?

  91. Brien Says:

    KoolKell not true……bad assessment ofthe situation

  92. Brien Says:

    Scottish……the power of two jake groves? are you dissing him?

  93. La Milicia Negra Says:

    I just realized, my boy Eddie Royal, whom I would have loved to pick with our second and let Hall, go somewhere else.. He would have been the totally the right pick for us now, with this situation we are in, he would have been a real blessing

  94. Terrapin Says:

    And just a few days ago Javon Walker sucked azz. Now you barely hear is whisper. Like a bunch of flies in the wind…

  95. Tommy Trojan Says:

    He’s a bulldozer that can’t seem to get out of park.

  96. Brien Says:

    I’ll gladly take a guy like Higgins as the number 3 wr

  97. Brien Says:

    Terrapin……..some on here are just nutso

  98. SacRaider Says:

    I still think we should go after Koren Robinson before trading for a WR.. As long as he doesnt get suspended hes just as good as henderson or anyone on the jags..

  99. Kevin Says:

    Its sad to see COOPER gone, but he was kinda suckin it up. You cant keep a guy around because he is a good guy.

    Bring back JON RITCHIE!!!

  100. Brien Says:

    LMN……..Hall would come up with big plays because teams are gonna be scared to throw to nmandi’s side

  101. Brien Says:

    robinson as good as henderson? come on dude

  102. KoolKell Says:

    Why does Kiffin context offensive philosophy as a either, or, proposition. Either run or pass. You need to be able to do both.

    If he’s going to play the same offensive football as last year, expect the same results.

    Immature Coach, Immature Man.

  103. Chris in NY Says:

    That’s pretty shocking. Cooper was not a good safety but was the heart and soul of our special teams coverage. His play must have slipped for this to happen.

  104. SacRaider Says:

    henderson drops every other ball trown to him (seems like anyway).

  105. Brien Says:

    Chris- he slipped on that roids needle

  106. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    Dudley should have been great. No one gave him a heart test! Biggest tease ever!

  107. Brien Says:

    Sac you must be referring to the NFC title game in 2006?

  108. Kool Aid Guy Says:

    Oh Yeah! Javon Walker is going to be in the Pro Bowl this year. He’s just shaking out the cobwebs from his beat down.

  109. los angeles raiders Says:

    Report coming out that Cooper has decided to retire instead of trying to catch on with another team

  110. Big Daddy WooWoo Says:

    I’m surprised no one has suggested suiting up Rathman!

    I’m mean Jon Ritchie (isn’t he a TV dude now?)

  111. Brien Says:

    I doubt pro bowl for walker but he will play well

  112. Terrapin Says:

    Now Kiffin is terrible b/c he didn’t run up the score on a preseason scrimmage game just to make it look good. Instead, he ignored FGs, went for it on 4th downs, and passed all day trying to get the most out of a SCRIMMAGE for our passing game. And all you hear now is Kiffin sucks. Its just laughable.

  113. Kool Aid Guy Says:

    Don’t worry, Mr. Davis will find someone to fill the injury voids.

  114. los angeles raiders Says:

    TYVON BRANCH FORCED THE COOPER cut, i THOUGHT he looked great against the cards

  115. Ted Says:

    There has got to be some run stoppers out there.

  116. Kool Aid Guy Says:

    Kiffin is going to be great. He knows what he is doing.

  117. Brien Says:

    Terrapin…….al Davis made kiffin go with that gameplan you know

  118. Zay Says:

    All these opinions mean 2 things-

    1) We have no clue who is gonna block for Fargas, DMac or Bush or who’s gonna catch passes from JRuss

    2) We are in deep doo doo. Sorry about that S bomb earlier

  119. KoolKell Says:

    Run-up the score in a pre-season game????

    How bout just score at all?

  120. Kool Aid Guy Says:

    We don’t need anymore run stoppers. Kelly can handle the line by himself. Davis wouldn’t have gave him such a large contract if he wasn’t confident in Kelly’s abilities.

  121. Brien Says:

    Ted we have our DTs……….thanks

  122. Brien Says:

    justin griffitn can block he isnt just as punishing as oneal……..we wont be as bad as people think at WR

  123. KoolKell Says:

    I’ve seen Cables mark on the team. I haven’t seen anything from Kiffin.

  124. Big Daddy WooWoo Says:

    1) We have no clue who is gonna block for Fargas, DMac or Bush or who’s gonna catch passes from JRuss

    The correct answers are: Justin Griffith and Zack Miller

    Thanks for playing…

  125. Brien Says:

    kell dont trip you shall ove the end result for us……saturday’s game was the best thing in the world aside from the injuries……they will come back on sept 8th with a chip on thier shoulders

  126. Ted Says:

    I sure hope so, it kills me to watch them get gashed. Our DB’s should help,

    Let’s put up 250 on the ground aginst the donkies

  127. garthraider Says:

    Anyone recall Mr Cliff Branch,how BIG was he?Fast as f–k,its Heart that matters,all being aqual,Higgins will show UP,in a good way!

  128. Terrapin Says:

    KK ….don’t take it so seriously man. Good teams loose preseason games all the time. Sometimes they even get blown out score wise. It happens every year. If you don’t think this offense could’ve scored you need to go back and watch. They just didn’t but available FGs were plenty. 2 TDs ..one by Miller and Curry were there. The O just didn’t cash in. Its preseason man. We are not going to be passing 90% of the time. Thats flat out crazy. But for a Scrimmage, it makes perfect sense.

  129. Brien Says:

    Garth exactly

  130. howiedoin Says:

    It seems to me Kiffin set it up this week with the passing game so the offensive line had no where to hide their skills or lack thereof and it gives them tape to work on their deficiencies.
    Now we have an idea on who needs the most work and help. I think we all know the running game is pretty dialed in.
    Exhibition season is a time to figure things out but also not show other teams anything that you’re working on for regular season.

  131. Brien Says:

    Terdell Sands, Gerard Warren, Tommy Kelly, and William Joseph will play well……i cant wait when teams are in obvious pass downs do you know the lineup we have then?

  132. Dakota Says:

    I agree with Terp, keep Michael Bush away from FB.

    We want to keep this kid long-term and the second we move him to FB his mind will be made up not to re-sign with us. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t Michael Bush only under contract for this season? If we want to keep him as a Raider, we will need to feed him the ball at HB a few times a game and find a way to move Fargas after this season. Michael Bush is the real deal, and we need to secure him long-term and moving him to FB will guarantee his departure in my opinion. The dude has always been THE MAN and now we are asking him to be a 3rd string RB, and he might handle that for one season, but I doubt he would embrace a move to the inglorious position of FB.

  133. Zay Says:

    I hope you are right. I’m 32 and can have memories of teams past to about the time I was 5-6 years old (Dokie Williams days). I can’t ever remember being this thin at WR. I hope you are right Brien. I remember telling a friend after we signed all these FA’s that if 50% of them panned out we would have done good-so Carter going down lowers the probability of going 50%.

  134. RFFL Says:

    Nooooooo…not coop…he’s one player that still plays with alot of heart!……JMO though…

  135. Kool Aid Guy Says:

    Dokie Williams was the business.

  136. Brien Says:

    Burgess,Kelly, Warren,Edwards= dline

    Morrison, Howard= lb unit

    Aso,Hall,Routt,Wilson,Huff= secondary

    teams have issues if they are in third and long…….expect many man many turnovers in 2008

    turnovers will be jamracus 2nd best friend aside of the run game

  137. Kool Aid Guy Says:

    Coop was a f**k up. It was most likely his bone-head penalties during the preseason that cost him his job.

  138. La Milicia Negra Says:

    bush as FB is ludicrous, he is not jerome bettis, a fast FB turned RB, he is a Big RB - period.

  139. howiedoin Says:

    Good teams don’t loose however they do lose once in awhile!

  140. Brien Says:

    Edwards was a big pickup he will be beastly on pass downs

  141. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Dakota where have you been?

    Good to see you!

  142. Brien Says:

    Al Davis= scholarship player

  143. KoolKell Says:

    19-61 and I’m not supposed to worry?????????

    Nap time

  144. Brien Says:

    i wont miss coop at all

  145. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Brien..

    post 136.. yeah but When our o cant score it doesn’t matter much :/

  146. Brien Says:

    football started in 2003!!! aint that rite kell

  147. Brien Says:

    Brien<——–willing to take bets right now……Raiders will at least be in the top 20 in run defense and as a team score 20 pts/game or more!!

  148. Zay Says:

    Don’t know if this stat is tru but heard on Radio this morning that if we post double digit losses it will be an NFL record for most season’s in a row of double digit losses-OUCH!! that one hurt.

  149. Armchair QB Says:

    koolkell #86–

    I totally agree about JLH. He just doesn’t seem to have “it” as a receiver. At least not yet.
    It took about two games for rookies DeSean Jackson and the Niner’s Josh Morgan to show big potential as receivers. Higgins couldn’t beat out Mike Williams and Tim Dwight last year and hasn’t done much so far either. Maybe he’s just a slow study. He put up some numbrs at UTEP, but that’s the Mid American Conference. He is the definition of “work in progress”.

  150. Brien Says:

    Armchair……kiffin blamed himself for that…..he refuse to put him in a winning situation…….please go check out the end of the year presser……thanks

  151. DesertRaider24 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    Worst Raider 1st round picks in the last 20 years???

    My list is as follows:

    1. Patrick Bates 1993
    2. Todd Marinovich 1991
    3. Scott Davis 1988
    4. Rickey Dudley 1996
    5. Matt Stinchcomb 1999
    6. Derrick Gibson 2001
    7. Tyler Brayton 2003
    8. Phillip Buchanon 2002
    9. Robert Gallery 2004

    *****

    Damn, that’s an impressive list of 1st round busts…of the last 9 drafts alone (I chose 2000 to start because that’s when we started the 3 year run of division championships), only Asomugha has turned into a top level player–at least at this point.

    Derrick Gibson, Phillip Buchanon, Napoleon Harris, and Fabian Washington are long gone, and both Seabass and Gallery clearly weren’t / aren’t worth 1st round money. This clearly has contributed to our current 5 year drought…the top picks have failed to deliver as advertised…

    IMO, Huff needs to step it up to prove he’s worth 1st round money–and the move to FS should help. If not, he’ll join a long and growing list of secondary 1st round busts.

  152. Brien Says:

    Zay they wont come close to losing 10 games this year

  153. Kool Aid Guy Says:

    Trade Scenario: Andrew Walter and Walker for Boldin.

  154. Brien Says:

    Raiders= start season off 2-0…….god(if there is one) blessed us with weak run defenses like denver and kc…and their olines aint that great

  155. Brien Says:

    people wouldnt trade walter for a bag of peanuts

  156. Raider Fan Ed Says:

    Cooper will be re-signed at the begining of the season. Raiders wouldn’t pass up on a loyal player and a hard hitter.

  157. Quagmire'd Says:

    so are the Raiders at the 75 player limit now?

  158. Kool Aid Guy Says:

    Scott Davis was pretty good until he lost interest. I wouldn’t put him on that bust list.

  159. Dakota Says:

    S&B666,

    I was in Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, California and Arizona…on vacation…first vacation in 3 years.

  160. Brien Says:

    Giggity!!

  161. darkknight01 Says:

    why would they cut a leader like Cooper from special teams??

  162. Brien Says:

    Dakota…….wow you came out here…..we are a little too liberal out this way for ya buddy

  163. Queen D Says:

    WTH! FIRST AND FOREMOST!!! LET GO OF THE STEROIDS… GET OFF OF IT… IT HAPPENED AND ITS OVER LET IT GO… MY GOODNESS GROW UP… COOP IS AWESOME AND FRANKLY THIS IS GOING TO SERVE AS SOME SEVERE DETRIMENT TO OUR GAME… AND FOR THE RECORD GET IT STRAIGHT HE RETIRED.

    COOP IS AN AWESOME GUY… AS A FAN AND AS A FRIEND I THANK HIM FOR EVERYTHING HE DID FOR US…

    COOP HAVE A HAPPY LIFE WITH THAT GOREGEOUS WOMAN YOU HAVE AND ALL OF THOSE LITTLE PUPPIES!!!

  164. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Do you think we could get a first round pick if we traded Al Davis….I forgot he is on Scholarship!

  165. darkknight01 Says:

    they better not let Cooper go for good….it would be a terrible move. He tackles and hits hard also…

  166. Zay Says:

    Befor Saturday-Although earlier I said it wasn’t all bad-I surely thought 8-8 or 9-7 but the more I read these threads the more down I get.

  167. Brien Says:

    yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn Queen…..coop is only good to us off the juice……you get over it

  168. Quagmire'd Says:

    Alriiiight!

  169. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Quen D typing in Caps makes you come across as a slightly retarded blogger.

  170. Brien Says:

    Zay many on here are morons……Raiders winning the division this season

  171. Raider Fan Ed Says:

    Walter isn’t going anywhere. Don’t believe the hype, Walter IS giving J.Russell a run for his money in the passing game. Had we had an O Line and receivers that could hold…Walter would tear Defenses up. Don’t forget that Walter took hit after hit last year including getting his face smashed THIS preseason and got right back up into the game…..blood and all. In this era of whiney under performing “star” Qb’s…Walter is a diamond in the rough!

  172. darkknight01 Says:

    why would Cooper retire??

  173. cole Ford Says:

    Coop sucks. Because he has tattoos, everyone is love with him. So what, he has a big heart. That doesn’t matter much when your 4-12.

  174. cole Ford Says:

    Coop sucks. Because he has tattoos, everyone is love with him. So what, he has a big heart. That doesn’t matter much when your 4-12.

  175. KoolKell Says:

    Best Wishes Coop, hope to see you back, before the season starts.

  176. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Damn Dakota that was quite a vacation. Did you do anything fun like smoke a joint in Cali?

  177. Brien Says:

    he’s quagmire quagmire you never know what he’ll say or do he’s quagmire quagmire……giggity giggity giggity let’s have sex

  178. DesertRaider24 Says:

    Zay Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
    Don’t know if this stat is tru but heard on Radio this morning that if we post double digit losses it will be an NFL record for most season’s in a row of double digit losses-OUCH!! that one hurt.

    *****

    Unfortunately, it is true…with all of the off season activity and the soft schedule, though, we shouldn’t break that record. As bad as the Arizona game showed our weaknesses, there are clubs that are EVEN WORSE…(KC, Baltimore, NYJ, Carolina, Miami, Atlanta).

  179. Terrapin Says:

    Wow. Coughlin just admitted there are no talks with Strahan that HE is aware of or involved in ….somebody phone the media …hurry …Coughlin has lost all power over the roster!!!

  180. Brien Says:

    Walter=lololololololololol that is funny stuff I thought George Carlin passed

  181. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Cole aren’t you still holed up in a hotel room hiding from the feds?

  182. Terrapin Says:

    irony

  183. Brien Says:

    Desert excactly and those teams you mentioned are on the schedule!!!

  184. Bob Marley Says:

    Dakota

    I´m upset, I used to love Scott Davis and Anthony Smith, take them off your list.

    Scott Davis had 27.5 sacks in his first 4 seasons, he was a very good young player when he decided to retire and pursue a business career.

    Anthony Smith, as a rookie recorded 10.5 sacks in 91, 13 in 92 and 12.5 in 93, all in all he averaged 8 sacks a year during 7 seasons as a Raider.

  185. Brien Says:

    Terp lmbao!!!

  186. cole Ford Says:

    SilverNblack666, I am in a cabin in the mountains of North Idaho. Don’t tell anyone.

  187. Brien Says:

    anthony smith f-cked up when he married Vanity

  188. Dakota Says:

    Queen D,

    Are you Coop’s roid dealer or something? Get a grip, without roids Coop was one rung above a kicker and tied with a long-snapper…that is it.

  189. SilverNblack666 Says:

    People in here are still delusional about trading a RB to AZ for Boldin.

    Listen for the last time what they do NOT need is another RB or QB.

    If we had a DB or LB we were willing to trade then maybe they would talk to us. But their needs are not RB and QB.

  190. Brien Says:

    we aint gettin boldin………better off looking at new orleans, green bay or jacksonville

  191. garthraider Says:

    Yo Brien,post147, Imw/you,lets get three more guys on board,take all bets!

  192. DesertRaider24 Says:

    Brien Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
    Zay many on here are morons……Raiders winning the division this season

    *****

    Really? We face the top RB twice a year, have an umproven run D, and you honestly think we’re taking the AFC West? I love the Raiders as much as anyone in the Nation, but let’s try beating the Chargers first…

  193. Just Win Baby Says:

    If Javon Walker can pull his weight the Drew Carter injury will not be that bad. It’s not like Carter was a top WR in this league before he came here anyway. He is fringe talent with an upside. Shouldn’t be too hard to replace and the season is not lost without him. Scottie Vines who played with the Lions wouldn’t be a bad choice and would come cheap.

  194. Dakota Says:

    SilverNblack666 Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
    Damn Dakota that was quite a vacation. Did you do anything fun like smoke a joint in Cali?
    _______________________________________________________

    No, but I did hit Merriman in the knee with the back bumper of my car while in SD.

  195. Brien Says:

    fu-k boldin anyways…….tries to renig after signing a contract is just bullshhhhhhit

  196. cole Ford Says:

    Sheet, we should just cut Walker and start Curry and Watkins, with Schillens as a #3. Were only going to pass about ten times a game anyway. I’m for running the wishbone.

  197. Brien Says:

    Dakota i call that a business trip not a vacation

  198. Brien Says:

    cole Ford you miss it as usual…..it must be Tampa 1996 all over again huh?

  199. Dakota Says:

    Bob, I didn’t put Anthony Smith on the list, just mentioned him later…but Scott Davis is on the list precisely because he lost interest and retired at a young age…Raiders forgot to do a heart check on him.

  200. Cole Ford Says:

    Save the f*ckn tigers.

  201. Raider Fan Ed Says:

    STEROIDS? Oh by the way….ALL football players are on something. Don’t kid yourself. Not all of them get caught! LOL. Cortisone being ONE of the legal STEROIDS! Now put yourself in their shoes….4-5 days of gruelling practice…then the big game where you take on more hits and bruises…..only to start it all back up on tuesday! Then add to that the wear and tear these players already have on their bodies from high school and college football…..and ask yourself IF YOU WOULDN’T WANT TO BE ON SOMETHING TO GET BY!! For the money these players are getting….i’d take the roids too!

  202. McRaider Says:

    Replace Davis and/or Smith with Darrell Russell.

  203. Brien Says:

    This top RB you speak of desert……..has lorenzo neal blocking for him? our run D has sapp and out of position safeties?

    SD= got issues as a team…….Merriman and Rivers knee are a problem…….LaDanian has heart issues…….Michael Turner gone……James Lofton gone to help out those WR

  204. Cole Ford Says:

    Does that look a bust to you Dakota:

    http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/294532.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0EDBDF5A92DACE0F2C2284831B75F48EF45

  205. FANG Says:

    Moron Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
    first!

    AS LEAST YOU GOT YOUR NAME RIGHT!

  206. Brien Says:

    SD is much moe beatable this season than you can ever believe for Oakland. I can’t wait until september 28th!!! the Raiders want a piece of SD bad…….I noticed last yar at the end of the season the raiders run defense held the RB in check and Sands was unblockable

  207. Ashley Lelie Says:

    Ashley Leslie should be available. I’ve heard the guy is great. Just because the broncos, whiners and other lame teams have cut him and claimed his attitude sucked ass. I have his agents phone number.

  208. Brien Says:

    we just gotta handle those LT and RT issues……my lord saturday did not look pretty……we cant run forever

  209. Brien Says:

    post 206 hahahahahahahahahahaha too funny

  210. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Nice work hurting Merriman Dakota the guy is so roided out I am sure he didn’t feel it.

    Cloe money Ford….This is a bust!!

    http://www.listen2unclejay.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/cleavage.jpg

  211. V.B.R8R Says:

    Just Win Baby,
    Exactly, we didn’t really see Drew Carter in action in S&B, so its not like we can miss him that much. Man, F*ck Jerry Porter.

  212. Oakglenn Says:

    OK Brien #206 was me. I admit it.

  213. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I meant Cole Money Ford

  214. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Sup Oakglenn

  215. Cole Ford Says:

    SilverNBlack666, Somehow, I knew that was coming.

  216. Just Win Baby Says:

    Koren Robinson is by far the most talented available right now if he can kick the bottle.

  217. Brien Says:

    i was about to ask who wants to be bring back Orlando Truitt?

  218. DesertRaider24 Says:

    Excellent points, Brien. I’m just saying let’s show that “we can walk before we start to run.” I only know what WE have, and we have questions too:

    1. Will Kelly justify the big contract and come up big?
    2. Will Sands show up? (for a guy 6-7 and 335, he sure played like the invisible man last year–I know he was mourning the loss of his mom, but he could have played inspired football dedicated to her too).
    3. Other than Burgess, who else will apply pressure from the ends?
    4. Will Morrison and Howard step up against the run? And who the hell is willing to take the SSLB position? (Kiff often voiced his frustration over the lack of a standout player at that position).

    And that’s just the defense…

  219. Oakglenn Says:

    I don’t think Porter has still suited up for Joke-sonville. I’m sure Jack Del Rio is LUVIN him.

  220. Cole Ford Says:

    Dakota, are you watching the DNC convention?

  221. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Did you like the bust Cole???

  222. Brien Says:

    Hard to kick the bottle……..i know

  223. Oakglenn Says:

    triple 6 what is up???

  224. Mistabrown Says:

    Ok Irons is gone! Bowie is on IR!

    You people got your wish, are we a better team now ? Dont get me wrong I would cut them too but it doesnt make the team better.

    Sam Williams is next I suppose.

  225. Cole Ford Says:

    Yeah, how did you get that picture of my mother?

  226. MR Says:

    I am so insignificant that I need a Blog to make me feel like I belong in society. Suicidal thoughts are not something to laugh about OK you guys so please…please stop taunting me as I am about to have a mental breakdown. My mom told me to write this.

  227. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, how you doin buddy!!!

    Did Malik Jackson land on his feet Oak ?

  228. DesertRaider24 Says:

    Porter deserves what he gets…I hope he rots on the bench.

  229. Brien Says:

    Desert i agree wit the LB situation 100 pct…….Burgess has edwards coming from the oppo side…….Kelly just needs to stay healthy and its an upgrade…..shhit air is an upgrade over sapp…….Sands is in better shape and is getting push vs the oline

  230. Oakglenn Says:

    Discharger game to start in about 45 minutes. Why do I smell Discharger bones about to break????

  231. Mistabrown Says:

    KIFFIN cut Jano, make a REAL statement!

  232. albert bigelow paine Says:

    Please don’t kill yourself MR, you make this blog much more interesting. I appreciate what you do.

  233. Brien Says:

    Fugg Fairy Porter……..word here in the Bay Area he tried to commit suicide over a b*itch……..what a lame

  234. Bob Marley Says:

    Dakota…ok then.

  235. Quagmire'd Says:

    Porter to be vut by the Jags…Raider reunion perhaps?

  236. Armchair QB Says:

    After Saturday night’s game, the Cardinals would probably like to trade Kiffin his USC QB Leinart for Arizona boy Walter (Arizona State, born in Scottsdale). Just throw in Boldin and it’s a deal!

  237. Oakglenn Says:

    I don’t know what happened to Malik Jackson brown. You might want to ask Michael Bush. Malik is one of his boys. You still thinking that 4-12 is middle ground???

  238. Quagmire'd Says:

    cut…oops

  239. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Sorry Cole but I went on a rampage last week and she was ready willing and able and we were both drunk…but I do apologize.

  240. FANG Says:

    Brien Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
    Zay many on here are morons……Raiders winning the division this season <—- YOURSELF INCLUDED

  241. Brien Says:

    yeah cut jano for elling the next jan stenarud

  242. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, you going to break down the SD game for us?

    Your insights are always spot on and some new material from you would be nice…lmao

  243. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, do you still believe DMAC will be red shirted this year or did you slide off that position?

  244. Bob Marley Says:

    Oh and Dakota, good to have you back, even if you have already given up on the season.

  245. Brien Says:

    old FANG aka The Schwab

  246. DesertRaider24 Says:

    Brien–can you picture Luis Castillo coming around Kwame, heading towards JRussell’s backside? If the Harris experiment at LT blows up, then it’s going to be a long afternoon against the Dolts.

  247. Brien Says:

    Hey FANG(MR) you gonna play Alex Trebeck again and ask meaningless trivia again?

  248. Raider4life Says:

    Spires cut, so does that mean Scott is a lock to make the team?

  249. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, either Kiffin has a phenominal season or he gets canned. Theres no middle ground for him.

    8-8, 7-9, 6-10, 5-11, 4-12 wont keep his job, do you get it now? If we dont go 10 wins or better & win the division I believe Kiffin is toast.

    OakGlenn, did you hit your head when you were a lil kid or are you handicapped? I sholdnt have to explain simple things more than once to you.

  250. Oakglenn Says:

    Actually Desert based on what we have seen so far I can answer some of that:

    1) Kelly has played REALLY WELL this preseason. Obviously he conditioning is not there, but coming off a serious injury, he has an excuse.
    2) Sands also has played surprisingly well. They left him in the zona “fartin’ hole” game to get his conditioning up. He dominated late, which is what you want to see out of pro players.
    3) Kalimba Edwards was playing like he was shot out of a cannnon on Saturday nite. I think he had one sack and or one forced fumble. Trevor Scott played a few series with the ones and did OK. Looks like we have some hope there.
    4) Regarding Morrison and Howard……uhh, I’ll take a pass on answering that.

  251. Brien Says:

    Desert yeah well maybe Castillo doesnt take his roids that week….Harris is not a good pass protector that’s why the 49ers got rid of him i mean he excelled more as a RT but Cable is God as everyone says

  252. FANG Says:

    Brien Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
    Hey FANG(MR) you gonna play Alex Trebeck again and ask meaningless trivia again?

    ITS ONLY MEANINGLESS BECAUSE YOUR TOO DUMB TO KNOW THE ANSWERS

  253. Brien Says:

    Of course scott is there……he was playing in the first half saturday……..i like scott he just gotta get stronger

  254. Brien Says:

    yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn to stupid ass trivia involving camp fodder but its okay FANG(MR) if it makes you feel better old man while you hit another viagra pill up…..be my guest

  255. Mistabrown Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    April 26th, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    You guys I would be VERY SURPRISED if the Raiders didn’t have Fargas and Rhodes start the first half of the season. Of course we all want Darren and Mike to start game 1 of the preseason, but I would be VERY suprised if they didn’t use this as basically a red shirt year for Darren.

  256. RaiderFan Says:

    I can’t imagine a team with an offensive line comprised of Harris-Gallery-Grove-Carlisle-Green scoring alot of points, or having a winning season.

    This unit flat out sucks. Might be worst pass-protecting line in the entire NFL. Couple the lack of ability to protect the QB with a substandard set of WR’s and we have a strictly one dimensional attack.

    It’s gonna be run-run and Jamarcus either throwing a dump off or quick hitter–or running for his life–or getting sacked.

    Offensive schemes and Tom Cable can only do so much to cover up the deficiencies of this unit.

    The offensive line will prevent the Raiders from making significant enough progress this season to make the playoffs.

    What pisses me off about this situation, is that we knew this unit sucked and besides picking up Wade we did virtually nothing to improve the personnel in this area of vital need.

    With a quality offensive line we actually might be able to put up a reasonable amount of points - even with Russell’s inexperience and questionable WR corps.

  257. Brien Says:

    FANG(MR) when the Raiders win games this year will you be that much closer to suicide?

  258. Oakglenn Says:

    Sure brown whatever you say. You want me to go find your quote where you claim 4-12 is middle ground??? How’s about your Favre quotes???? Keep talking brown. You’ll say something to embarrass yourself within seconds. It happens every time.

  259. Brien Says:

    Grove has no business starting at center……….ever

  260. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, is Vick still coming to Oakland ?

    # Oakglenn Says:
    April 26th, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Dell, The other point I made, I don’t know if you read this, but who was Mike Vicks best friend on Atlanta??? DeAngelo. So, if it all works out, could we be seeing Vick come here once he gets out??? More likely than not.

  261. Brien Says:

    some people on this blog want the Raiders to fail so they can gloat lol too funny

  262. Oakglenn Says:

    Clown I stand by every one of those statements. Got any more?

  263. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    April 28th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Malik jackson is a fantastic pick up. Again, now we’re going after some needs.

    ____________________________________________________

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 18th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    I don’t even know who Malik Jackson is you POS. Seriously clown, what is the middle ground??? I have to know. Why don’t you go see what Boldin himself is saying about Whisenhunt and the Bidwells, and then come back to tell us what the middle ground could possibly be. I’ll be here waiting. What a moron!!

  264. Brien Says:

    Vick= The Longest Yard 2

  265. willie Says:

    Scott puts on 10 lbs,watch out,F–g,toothless wonder,wheres mr/mrs?

  266. Raiderette's Pom Pom's Says:

    Echemandu at FB!

  267. Brien Says:

    Williw she is her posing as FANG

  268. Oakglenn Says:

    I stand by everything I have ever put on this blog. What else you got???

    Why don’t you tell us your opinion on something?? You know we’re gonna laugh you outta here like we always do.

  269. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, you stand by them now but when I called you out on Malik you called me a dumb piece of sh!t and said you dont know who he is. I had this ready because I knew you would piss on yourself.
    :)

    Oakglenn Says:
    April 28th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Malik jackson is a fantastic pick up. Again, now we’re going after some needs.

    ____________________________________________________

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 18th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    I don’t even know who Malik Jackson is you POS. Seriously clown, what is the middle ground??? I have to know. Why don’t you go see what Boldin himself is saying about Whisenhunt and the Bidwells, and then come back to tell us what the middle ground could possibly be. I’ll be here waiting. What a moron!!

  270. Brien Says:

    Tim to go to my favorite past time…………..P U R P L E

  271. Mistabrown Says:

    You are a fraud OakGlenn. You probably had no idea who Malik was when you said it was a great pickup you’re just in here preaching sunshine on everything the Raiders do so I took it upon myself to expose you for what you are.

  272. Mistabrown Says:

    See post 223 & 230, my opinions.

    # Oakglenn Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Why don’t you tell us your opinion on something?? You know we’re gonna laugh you outta here like we always do.

  273. Oakglenn Says:

    Actually Brown, why don’t you find how I said Jam would play his first game Dec 2nd and start his first game against SD months in advance, or when I was the only one who said Ryan wasn’t going anywhere, or when I said Kiff wasn’t going anywhere, or how I said Porter was the fook outta here, or how I said the last years Denver, KC, GB, Indy and SD games were all winnable games, all of which we should have won if we didn’t. Why don’t you find those quotes You moron.

  274. La Milicia Negra Says:

    post 267 ooops =)

  275. willie Says:

    If coach wants out,for whatever reason,Ihope the Godfather fires his butt.We have other staff Waiting for a chance,RAIDER UP,or vanish!

  276. Mistabrown Says:

    You said Porter was out of here ????? NOWAY!!!
    Nobody saw that coming, especially after the final game when he told a reporter “IM FREE”.

    Brilliant OakGlenn, we should call Ripleys Believe it or not!

    You find those quotes if they exist. Im not your secretary, fool.

  277. Armchair QB Says:

    Mistabrown #248–

    If the Raiders go 8-8 this season and Kiffin gets fired, he will ride off into the sunset as one happy cowboy. He will collect the final $2 million on his contract and everyone will think he did a pretty good job going 8-8 with what he had this year. He will be free of Al Davis and get a nice job as head coach of a college football team.

  278. Wiz 76 Says:

    Miller time.

  279. Jim (ct raider) Says:

    broncos just released sammie parker. anyone want to bet a bill on who picks him up tonight??

  280. 408RAIDER Says:

    Its about time we had some freaking roster movement!!

    Did some 1 ask for another Kool-Aid drinking Al supporter?

    408 stands up!

  281. Oakglenn Says:

    OMG brown went waaaaaaaay out on a limb joining the chorus of thousands of other Raider fans saying cut Irons. Holy Sh** batman, Wow what an opinion!!!

    # Mistabrown Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Ok Irons is gone! Bowie is on IR!

    You people got your wish, are we a better team now ? Dont get me wrong I would cut them too but it doesnt make the team better.

    You would cut them both but it doesn’t make the team better. What the hell kind of statement is that?????? Besides you contradict yourself from 3 seconds earlier because Bowie was never cut he was IR’d. GOD THIS GUY IS A MORON!!!!!!

  282. DEATHbyTATUM Says:

    Cooper WAS a leader before he was busted for roids.

    Look at Merriman, that knee doesn’t feel so good without the roids, does it?

  283. Armchair QB Says:

    The only thing hurt about John Bowie is Al Davis’ ego. He drafted this guy with the Randy Moss pick and doesn’t want to look like a fool by having to cut him, so he puts him on IR.

  284. Mistabrown Says:

    Armchair,
    Kiffin is giving AL the middle finger on a weekly basis through the media. Nobody has done this before……ever!

    Unless LK does something fantastic with this roster AL is going to chop his skull off.

    JMO

  285. 408RAIDER Says:

    If they dont preform anymore f’em get some1 else in here that wants to get the gob done for !! THE BIG BAD OAKLAND RAIDERS!

  286. Oakglenn Says:

    Clearly loser you’ve spend hours pouring over this blog and that’s ALL YOU COULD COME UP WITH???????????????? Malik Jackson???? What a useless turd. You want me to go find YOUR statements about how you don’t know what a run blitz is???? Or a 5 step drop??? How about how over rated first ballot hall of famer Favre is???? I love the either Kiff is fired or not statements. Pure “genius”. There is no middle ground statement. What would the middle ground be??? Asinine statement after asinine statement. This guy clown should have his own show.

  287. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, you tard I didnt say cut Irons. Many in here have been calling for Irons to be cut not me!

    I said ok, are we better now because Irons is gone?
    Answer- No

    OakGlenn, you are circling the drain man.

  288. garthraider Says:

    Hello Jim,the RAIDERS just might ,you think!

  289. Wiz 76 Says:

    Mista brown stain,

    do us all a favor and follow MR off the bridge.

    Ya got no love here.

  290. 408RAIDER Says:

    pure comedy!*

  291. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, you are coming apart at the seems man!

    Take another week off OakGlenn. I promise not to say anything when you return. Blogging has got the best of you and the name calling is off the charts. Didnt your mommy teach you any manners?

    Whats your age anyway ? Most of us stopped name calling after Jr High.

  292. Oakglenn Says:

    THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE SUCH A MORON!! We ARE BETTER FOR CUTTING IRONS!! The team just cut him!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m glad you wanted to keep him clown. What clown, was Iron your first pick of your fantasy team???? What a complete utter moron!! Keep ‘em coming clown!!!!!!!!!!!!

  293. Jim Lofton Says:

    Until the Raiders cut Lane Kiffin spare us the who gives a damn cuts Jerry,….let me tell you all something, Lane Kiffin is a major cancer on this team,..a puny little pipsqueek that has no business in the NFL….why are the Raiders waiting until the season is over at a 1-5 start to can him?…why wait?…he needs to be fired today….not tomorrow,..today.

  294. garthraider Says:

    Im hoping Cooper comes back,Fearless,he left it all on the field,thanks

  295. tenacious d Says:

    Dakota,
    Bates was a bad pick but i would have to put Nick Bell and Leon Bender on the list. Bender because he was the last pick of 1st round and he OD’d in his agents bathroom the day he signed his contract, thus counting against the cap.

  296. Wiz 76 Says:

    Oakglenn,

    calm down man, let’er go.

    I can piss the farthest anyway!

  297. Armchair QB Says:

    Cooper is at the dog pound right now, petting the puppies.

  298. Mistabrown Says:

    OakGlenn, I didnt want to keep him he didnt play a down all pre season! You are trying so hard to punk me you cant even see straight or read!

    Take a deep breath..

    lmao

  299. Oakglenn Says:

    One of you guys is actually putting me on right?? No one can be this stupid consistently. It’s not possible. This is one of you guys trying to be a fool. Trying to mess with me.

    And with the first pick of his fantasy draft, the clown picks…….Grant Irons, position unknown.

  300. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    Bender had an epileptic seizure.

  301. Wiz 76 Says:

    Mistabrown, how is MRS. Brown doing?

  302. DesertRaider24 Says:

    That is at least one reason why Kiff is speaking his mind…he knows he can’t quit, he has to GET FIRED to still be able to collect the remainder of his contract. I see it as a win-win:

    1. Al will fire Kiff if he doesn’t go at least 8-8, and will be able to slide in yet another coach. (Lofton?)

    2. Kiff will now be able to land a HC position at some D1 school.

    3. The Raider Nation will have been spared a double digit loss season for the 6th year in a row, and hopefully will be able to build on this for years to come.

    Ideally, I’d like to see Kiff get an extension if he gets to at least .500 (which would double last year’s win total, and will be nothing to sneeze at–Al will have to see that as a VAST improvement, especially from 2-14!!!) Al would be able to claim credit, as would Kiff.

    It’s probably wishful thinking…oh well.

  303. Oakglenn Says:

    Clown is off his nut. What part of this statement am I not getting right??

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    OakGlenn, you tard I didnt say cut Irons. Many in here have been calling for Irons to be cut not me!

    I said ok, are we better now because Irons is gone?
    Answer- No

    Is there anyone in here that wants Grant Irons on the team other than clown??? I don’t.

  304. Mistabrown Says:

    Oak,
    Unless you can find a post me saying Favre isnt a Hall of Famer I suggest you just cork it.

    Same goes for me wanting Irons.

    FYI…u cant select individuals in FF from defense.

  305. Mistabrown Says:

    Jesus Christ you are ridiculous! If it makes you feel better about your blogging “life” to put words in my mouth go 4 it man..

    OakGlenn, who are you fooling in here? Seriously!

    lmao

  306. RaiderLen Says:

    HelloNation…Can We skipthe final Preseason Game?

    Guess not.

    Tenacious D…I don’t believe Illeagal drugs were the cause of Benders Death. (if that is what you’re suggesting) My alzhiemers prevents Me from recalling the exact cause of death, but I don’t believe it was from Illicit drug use.

  307. Oakglenn Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    OakGlenn, you tard I didnt say cut Irons. Many in here have been calling for Irons to be cut not me!

    Mistabrown Says:
    August 25th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    OakGlenn, I didnt want to keep him he didnt play a down all pre season!

    In less than 6 minutes this guy has completely contradicted himself. I have NEVER EVER SEEN ANYONE make such moronic statements over and over and over. And he’s telling me to calm down. I can’t help it. I’ve got to stop. My stomach is hurting from laughing. This is a joke right???? One of you guys is putting me on.

  308. FANG Says:

    nice tackle weddle! …when did the chargers sign stu? baaaawaaahahahaha!

  309. RaiderLen Says:

    #298 Sith…aww, That was it. Thanks for filling in the blank.

  310. Pony Saragousa Says:

    I will eat your azz

  311. Oakglenn Says:

    Seattle scored faster than Clown humiliated himself. Sorry gotta go watch dischargers fall apart.

  312. RaiderLen Says:

    I think…. Mistabrown and Oakglenn…Water pistols at 20 paces. :)

  313. RaiderLen Says:

    #308…everybody knows the GOOSE will eat anything

  314. Jim Lofton Says:

    Desertraider,..you want Kiffin to get an extension,..you are clearly an idiot.

  315. Wiz 76 Says:

    6 down

  316. darkknight01 Says:

    Leinart picked 3 times and once by the guy we drafted ahead of him….Huff Daddy!

    Luv it!

  317. RaiderLen Says:

    If the Raiders clearly show improvement, You can count Me among the idiots.

  318. Mistabrown Says:

    The reason I wasnt crying 2 weeks ago for Irons to be cut was because I knew he wouldnt make the final roster. So cutting him now or 2 weeks ago is really a mute point….it was GOING to happen ANYWAY!

    Hope this helps out your insane rant Oak but I imagine you will continue to act like a 12 yr old.

    And again….you cant draft individual defensive players on NFL.com Fantasy Football, should I tell you this 3 more times ?

  319. Thec Says:

    Guess who just blew a snap for the dis-chargers?
    you alltime faqvorite ex-raider center…..jermy newberry….ahahahahahhahahahaha

  320. RaiderLen Says:

    Darkknight…I never bought into the Leinart hype. I did however think Vince Young was all that.

    I’m glad we dodged those bullets and landed JMAC.

  321. Thec Says:

    we are going to be able to run and run often on the dis-chargers…. they cant stop the run…

  322. 408RAIDER Says:

    Sup Thec

    I finally got over saturday!! I still say SB in 3!! Oh yeah and I take back all the New guys I put out there……

  323. Thec Says:

    dis-chargers run d sucks

  324. G Raider Says:

    mistabrown cutting Irons now or later does matter, thats what kiffin was talking about. you are the one who may need to sit back and learn something.

  325. Thec Says:

    408, what up Bro….Yean it is still SB win in 3

  326. Wiz 76 Says:

    The Black Mouth Cur is the best hunting dog ever.

    Mine swam across the Sacramento River and retrieved a 30 pound coyote.

    Duncan for dog of the year.

  327. darkknight01 Says:

    I never bought into the Leinart hype as well…

  328. 408RAIDER Says:

    G Raider

    OG & MB never agree on anything cept they both love the RAIDERS… thats good enough 4 me tho

  329. Thec Says:

    man the dis-charger run d is garbage….
    some of you guys and the mediots have SD winning the west. they suck on D the 1st team is getting blow off the line. they miss fairyman and williams big time not even the same team…… they suck.

  330. Thec Says:

    man i have to admit i wanted vince young….JRUSS is better than both those QB’s

  331. Wiz 76 Says:

    408, good enough 4 me too.

    All good on gameday.

  332. Thec Says:

    dis-charger 1st team getting eating by charlie frye hahahahahahahahahashshshshshs

  333. 408RAIDER Says:

    ufck the chokers…. BRING ON THE DONKEYS

  334. Mistabrown Says:

    G, if we cut him 2 weeks ago who were we going to bring in ? We brought in Archuletta, did that make us better?
    What was stopping them from bringing in other players? Nothing…its a mute point and Kiffin should shut his piehole about the depth and coach.

    Our starting LB’s are KM, TH, Ricky Brown or Robert Thomas in the 3rd spot. That leaves S Williams and either RT or RB as backups.

    Mute point regarding Irons, sorry bro!

  335. Thec Says:

    40, u watching the game bro?

  336. Wiz 76 Says:

    My older brother would kick my a$$ after he lost a game, then I would kick my younger brothers a$$ in spite. Then we would all sit down and have dinner, with all the respest in the world for each other.

  337. Mistabrown Says:

    If they had gone after Takeo Spikes before the 9ers signed him I would said cut Irons and make that move but they didnt doit so him being on the roster a cpl more weeks didnt mean squat.

  338. 408RAIDER Says:

    Wiz 76

    yup BTW the only O jerseys I have are yours & THE GREAT TIM BROWN

  339. Oakglenn Says:

    ONCE AGAIN, SORRY YOU GUYS!! But please note, I am sitting here conversing with you guys and this moron comes in here swinging. And within seconds is not making sense and contradicting himself. With regards to any of the posts I’ve made, I stand by them, and will discuss them.

    Clown: “I didn’t say cut Irons”.. then seconds later, “I didn’t want to keep him.”

    Unbelievable. You can’t make this stuff up!!

  340. Thec Says:

    I wanted Spikes as well, voiced it here often would he have stuck?

  341. Wiz 76 Says:

    408, I only have the same.

  342. 408RAIDER Says:

    Thec

    Na @ work till 6 today :( who they playin?

  343. Wiz 76 Says:

    The only other jersey I want is the great Henry Lawrence. Big 70!

  344. Batman Says:

    just heard kiffin say, oneil injury is career threating, I feel for the guy , that has to be tough

  345. G Raider Says:

    there is a roster limit mistabrown. if a player is not going to play you might as well get him off the roster. maybe the reason we didn’t have takeo is because irons was on the roster. you contradicted yourself again I think.

  346. Thec Says:

    408, they are playing the seachickens.
    rivers is garbage, a backup at best… are DB’s are going to have a field day. Marcus trufant has dropped 2 ints allready.

  347. 408RAIDER Says:

    I like your style Wiz 76!!

    OG no worries bro do your thing I got luv 4 all my brethren even if I dissagree with them….

  348. Thec Says:

    SD first team sucks……

  349. 408RAIDER Says:

    Thec

    the seachickins have a good D but ufck the chokers…

    I wish the freakin DHL guy would hurry up and get here its way past beer 30

  350. Batman Says:

    Wiz Im going out to smoke up, raise another glass for me brother, Thec wats up ? Ill be back

  351. Thec Says:

    seahawks gained 170 yards total offense on SD defense….Sd 1st team defense minus steriod boy
    ahahahahahahahahahaha

  352. Thec Says:

    Batman, what is up BRO????????

  353. Dave Alvis Says:

    I just heard on the radio that the SacBee is about to buy-out 50% of it’s contracts. I wonder if that will effect Jason Jones?

  354. RaiderFan Says:

    Al Davis is man enough to put up with Kiffin’s jabs at him. Al is probably even willing to put up with Kiffin’s insubordination in the name of continuity if the Raids show progress.

    However, Al will not tolerate crappy game plans, poor clock management, or a squad not buying into or motivated by Kiffin.

    I’m not impressed with Kiffin. Haven’t been since his opening press conference when he was hired. I’ve seen evidence Kiff’s clock management sucks this pre-season, and some really questionable decisions late in the final Charger game last year. His game planning and evaluation of personnel is still up for debate. Don’t know how the squad itself feels about Kiffin. I suspect he isn’t well liked but that’s not a requirement to be a good head coach.

    One thing Kiffin appears to have done is surround himself with a competent staff of Knapp and Cable. I think Lofton is Al’s man and Kiffin’s likely successor. Can’t see Kiff wearing the silver and black after this season, and it’s pretty likely he wont make it through the season.

  355. Thec Says:

    the dis-chagagers are gettting zero push on frye……..

  356. Batman Says:

    Man today was depressing, I think were all feelin it

  357. Batman Says:

    I know this is terrible to say out loud, but Im watching the dolts and every time rivers drops back im hoping somebody brakes his damm legs, so unsportsman like lol

  358. Thec Says:

    Batman, i fell the same way….the exact same way

    darren sproles, little mofo looks dangerous..

  359. 408RAIDER Says:

    Yo Jerry whats up with the pratice fix????

  360. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Man, Darren Sproles looks good.. :/

  361. Ryan Says:

    408. Don’t you want Jerry to wait another 50 posts?

  362. Yalls Trippin Says:

    Hello Nation.

    I have been told again Schilens is a roster lock. Also, The Raiders have contacted a handful of FA WR’s and their agents. The only one for sure is K. Robinson.

  363. 408RAIDER Says:

    ryan
    man I only hit on 408 like 4 times so far but thanx 4 looking out

  364. Batman Says:

    thec your right, sproles is small and fast, I see it now the new raider killa

  365. Thec Says:

    rivers still has a noodle arm……
    that ball he thew to jackson aso would have had it…

  366. KoolKell Says:

    Brien,

    Yeah people will gloat, not because we want the Raiders to lose. But because of all the juvenile nonsense talked by people in here. Dorks, Seachickens, Bring on the Donkeys, Bring on the Dis-chargers, Playoffs.

    We won 19 of out of our last 80 games, stop acting crazy. A quiet optimism is called for, not making an assz of oneself coming off a 19 and 61.

    Thec Says:
    August 22nd, 2008 at 11:26 am
    I should tone down my Optimism for what reason or purpose?

  367. 408RAIDER Says:

    KK
    With all due respects!

    STFU

    they have a blog for raider haters why dont you go there and take MR with you!!

  368. Thec Says:

    KK, what up Bro???????

  369. Batman Says:

    Guys I have to run the ole lady is giving me that look, like shes going to kick my ass, brothers have a goodnight, shout out some love to my man wiz, today was rough, thec take care, hang with you men tommorrow, raiders till we die.

  370. 408RAIDER Says:

    Later Batman!

    Oh yeah Bring on the Donkeys!!! & ufck the chefs & the chokers!!! :P

  371. Thec Says:

    So, If you guys want to be “closet raider fans” its up to you. But dont try and control others…..

    I will say whatever i want when I want……

    Would never be a mind control dupe for anyone on this blog…

  372. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderFan #352,

    I totally agree. And I haven’t seen any signs of a personal mark he’s put on the team other than rollouts and dump offs.

  373. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    why do people think they are cool when they talk about smoking cronic? why brag? brag about doing hard drugs like meth or coke or don’t brag at all.

  374. Thec Says:

    Batman tkae care Bro?????

  375. spoons Says:

    jim finn pick him up

  376. Thec Says:

    “closet raider fans” scared to speak whats on their mind ROFLMAO at that….. too funny. I wont profane you I will laugh at you….

  377. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    say something like i snort an 8ball a day. the only people that brag about weed are high school kids. sorry but i am not impressed

  378. KoolKell Says:

    Well at least SD scored, know what I’m sayin.

  379. 408RAIDER Says:

    IF you aint the real KK then UFCK you troll if you are then see post #365

    I

  380. 408RAIDER Says:

    Thec

    Whats up with ur boy??

    LOL

  381. RaidrWreker Says:

    Trade for Deverey Henderson or Robert Meachem. Play Bush at FB better to have him on the field than just on 3rd down. And he can catch the ball too and is a bruiser

  382. Thec Says:

    Man, some body need sto hit rivers in the face….

  383. 408RAIDER Says:

    New thread finally the DHL guy is here

  384. Raiderfan20 Says:

    lets sign someone who can catch the ball !!!

    I think cutting spires & ED “hitman” Hartwell were stupid…!!!

  385. R8eR-FaN Says:

    Yea, cooper had to go. The thing I like about Kiffen is he doesn’t keep dead weight players around, just wish he had more say in who he brought in. Just think of all those players he got rid of his first season that were drawing paychecks every year cause they were favorites of Al Davis.

    Kiffen is still inexperienced coach, and I a not too enthusiastic about his lack of confidence in the young receivers. Play them damnit! Develop the young talent around you.

    Kiffen also needs to hand over play calling to the OC cause he sucks at it, He may have been good at it when he was with USC, but trying to coach and call plays at the same time is very different.

  386. pimp c Says:

    Bush Should be Moved to FB !!!

  387. Lane Queefen Says:

    http://www.ffmastermind.com/teambits.php?team=OAK

  388. perry Says:

    oakland until Al Davis is gone will never ever be good again, period..we are in for another double digit loss year
    Perry

  389. Raider Girl Says:

    Cooper Retired, he wasn’t cut

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