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Looking toward the final 53

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, August 28th, 2008 at 3:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Maybe I’ve been brainwashed by listening to Lane Kiffin bemoan the inadequacies of his roster, but the hardest part about breaking down the Raiders’ final 53 is finding that many players you want to keep, rather than worrying about which ones are getting away.

A rundown of how things stand heading into Friday night’s game in Seattle:

QUARTERBACKS (keep 2 or 3) — JaMarcus Russell, Andrew Walter, Marques Tuiasosopo.

The only question is whether the Raiders choose to go with two or three quarterbacks, meaning Tuiasosopo’s spot is not assured.

Interesting note or maybe nothing at all _ after Jeff Otis was cut Wednesday, his locker was not cleaned out as is often the case. Could be they were simply late in getting to it, or it could be he may be returning to the practice squad.

The only reason he would be on the practice squad is if the Raiders were going with two quarterbacks.

RUNNING BACKS (keep 5 or 6) — RB Justin Fargas, FB Justin Griffith, RB Darren McFadden, RB Michael Bush, FB Luke Lawton, FB Marcel Reece, RB Louis Rankin, RB Adimchinobe Echemandu.

Fargas, Griffith, McFadden and Bush are etched in stone. Griffith needs help at fullback, and Kiffin made it clear Bush is not an option as a lead blocker. That gives Lawton a shot, should he impress, or a search of the waiver wire after final cuts.

Rankin is this season’s Echemandu, only this time there isn’t a spot available due to a suspension as was the case last year with Dominic Rhodes.

WIDE RECEIVERS (keep 5 or 6) — SE Javon Walker, FL Ronald Curry, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Todd Watkins, Arman Shields, Chaz Schillens, Jonathan Holland, Chris McFoy.

Unless the Raiders sign a veteran receiver, and they would probably hold off on that until after Week 1 to avoid paying a guaranteed salary to a vested veteran, then Higgins may be the best bet to be the No. 3 receiver. Watkins is deserving of the fourth spot based on camp performance. Shields will have to show a lot to avoid being placed on injured reserve but could be too talented to slip through to the practice squad without being claimed. Schilens has the upper hand over Holland and McFoy because of his physicality and status as an ‘08 draft pick.

TIGHT ENDS (Keep 2 or 3) — Zach Miller, John Madsen, Tony Stewart, Darrell Strong, Chris Wagner.

After Miller, Madsen might be the most sure-handed receiver on the team. Stewart provides a steady veteran presence and is a solid blocker. The Raiders like Strong’s toughness _ he bounced back quickly from a separated shoulder _ but practice squad is his best bet. An outside chance the Raiders could go with just Miller and Madsen provided Fred Wakefield makes the team, making available for blocking duty as a tight end when necessary.

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (keep 8 or 9) — LT Kwame Harris, LG Robert Gallery, C Jake Grove, RG Cooper Carlisle, RT Cornell Green, T Seth Wand, T-G Paul McQuistan, C-G Chris Morris, C-G John Wade, T Mario Henderson, T-G Fred Wakefield, G Brandon Rodd, G-C Jesse Boone.

Beyond the five starters, it’s a tough call. Wand is the only pure tackle with considerable experience. Henderson’s play improved of late and his scholarship could last another year. Interesting to see if both Morris and Wade are retained. Morris has experience as a guard, Wade does not. But if Grove’s knee falters or he is unable to deal with the elite nose tackles, Wade would be the better option to finish out the season. Wakefield’s versatility gives him a shot, while McQuistan is the primary left side backup.

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (keep 8 or 9) — LE Derrick Burgess, DT Tommy Kelly, DT Gerard Warren, RE Jay Richardson, DE Kalimba Edwards, DT Terdell Sands, DE Trevor Scott, DT Josh Shaw, DT William Joseph, DE Derrick Gray, DE Greyson Gunheim.

The most interesting call is what to do with sixth-round draft pick Scott, who is actually less than 250 pounds and may not be ready to contribute as a pass rusher this year. Practice squad would be ideal, but that means subjecting him to waivers. Shaw would seem to have the edge on Joseph based on where he plays in the rotation and production. Gray and Gunheim are long shots.

LINEBACKERS (keep 5 or 6) – SLB Ricky Brown, MLB Kirk Morrison, WLB Thomas Howard, Isaiah Ekejiuba, Jon Alston, Robert Thomas, Sam Williams, Adam Archuleta.

Ekejiuba’s special teams play makes him an iron-clad fourth linebacker to go along with the starters. Thomas’ injury and losing out to Brown as the strong side starter puts him at risk. There is a feeling among some defensive coaches that Williams simply doesn’t have it. If he is retained, that call is coming straight from the top. Alston’s speed and special teams skill may give him the edge over Archuleta.

DEFENSIVE BACKS (keep 8 or 9) – CB Nnamdi Asomugha, SS Gibril Wilson, FS Michael Huff, CB DeAngelo Hall, CB Stanford Routt, CB Chris Johnson, S Tyvon Branch, S Rashad Baker, S Hiram Eugene, CB Darrick Brown, CB-S Marviel Underwood, CB Nick Sanchez, CB Michael Waddell, CB-S Nate Lyles.

Beyond the starters, Routt, Johnson and Branch are secure, bringing the total to seven. Sanchez, Waddell and Brown are probably out the door pending something spectacular in Seattle, with Brown a practice squad possibility. That leaves probably two spots divided between Eugene, Underwood and Lyles.

SPECIALISTS _ PK Sebastian Janikowski, P Shane Lechler, LS Jon Condo. Others: P-PK Glenn Pakulak.

Nothing to see here. The only way Pakulak sticks is if Lechler isn’t ready.

(Note: The Raiders held a brief walkthrough in Alameda before traveling to Seattle today).

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710 Responses to “Looking toward the final 53”

  1. Fart Melvin Spander AKA MR Says:

    I am a fat washed up hack. I can’t get a job. I can’t can’t a date. And my kids won’t return my calls.

  2. SilvernBlack666 Says:

    MR is a moderator! I hate your blog, Jerry. I’m miserable here. But I’ll never leave! Ever!

  3. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    Scott is no less a situational player than Clemons. He is at worst a light DE or a heavy LB, I have read in at least four articles or mags that we will be hard pressed to replace the 8 sacks from the depatrted Clemons.

    BTW: maybe 1st???

  4. Wiz 76 Says:

    Thats more like it.

  5. SilvernBlack666 Says:

    Hey Oakglenn, posting as Fart Melvin, you “can’t can’t a date”?!? If you’re going to post under other names, something you always complain to the mods about, btw, at least brush up your 4th grade grammar skills. Retard.

  6. Oakglenn Says:

    How’s my spelling now??? die, scum, die!

  7. Fart Melvin Spander AKA MR Says:

    I’ll never leave! Ever!

  8. BiggLegg Says:

    Can we talk Silver and Black please?

  9. albert bigelow paine Says:

    If John “I can’t remember how many houses I own” McCain wins the election, there is no more hope left for this country. It will continue the downward spiral which ultimately result in the collapse of the American Empire. I suppose I will stick with it though, seeing how I have stuck with the hopeless cause which is Al Davis’ Raiders.

  10. SilvernBlack666 Says:

    Whatever, brainiac. Now that we know that Art Spander can’t can’t a date…

  11. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    Jerry,

    Your blogs are always informative and insightful. I go to you first, Jason Jones second, MVN 3rd, and Real Football 365 (to get a laugh). Keep on keeping on.

  12. Fart Melvin Spander AKA MR Says:

    It’s Oakglenn, I mean it’s AI, I mean it’s 666, I mean it’s Dakota….I’m so confused!!!

  13. cole Ford Says:

    MR is cool. He is like the Joker. Without him, this blog would be as boring as watching Batman drink kool-aid all day.

  14. Oakglenn Says:

    The most cogent part of Jerry’s write up is nothing to see here. No shocks. The difference between our 53 guys and number 54 is like MR trying to jump the Grand Canyon.

  15. Art Spander Says:

    Hey Oakglenn, you f’n retard, I’m not the one complaining about this blog. I love this blog. I love Jerry. I agree with almost everything he says. You and CosmicQueerBand, on the other hand, are the ones always complaining about this place, accusing Jerry of being a troll, etc. Yet, you guys refuse to leave. Again, talk about potential suicides.

    Hey Brien, what it do, pimpin’.

  16. Oakglenn Says:

    It’s always oakglenn. Oakglenn posting as MR, oakglenn posting as others. and No, MR is not cool. There are enough different opinions on the blog with out Whiner and Bunco fans coming in here to post as others and try to eff stuff up.

  17. Art Spander Says:

    Brien, we still meeting up to..you know..have a beer before the game on September 8th?

  18. Art Spander Says:

    I’ll bring Beyonce and the “toy” we talked about.

  19. Fart Melvin Spander AKA MR Says:

    My kids hate me. Mankind is cirling the drain.

  20. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    Is Wakefield really being looked at to provide depth at TE, OL and DL or is this just a camp fodder type of thing? I haven’t seen a player filling in at this many positions since the 60’s.

  21. KoolKell Says:

    Jerry,

    Booooring

  22. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    Is anybody out there who wants to talk Raiders and / or football?

  23. r8dr4lfe Says:

    We can trade Wade to the Colts cause jeff Saturday is out for 6 weeks the Colts give up a draft pick to the Saints we get Deverey Henderson 3 team trade

  24. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    Two questions:

    I look at the depth chart and can figure out who the second string players who will most likely start in the last preseason game are. It gets murky when we get to the third quarter. Wakefield playing DB???

    Secondly, how much does a practice squad player actually make? Do they have to get a second job as a UPS deliveryman to make ends meet?

  25. Oakglenn Says:

    We can’t trade Wade. Who’s going to backup at center. Morris?? That’s a big ?????? If we trade Wade and Grove gets hurt, 3-13 is a REAL possibility at that point.

  26. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    If a third stringer goes down in the fourth quarter in the last preseason game who comes in? The second stringers have already played a halve. Do we bring in the cheerleaders or does the first stringers come in to mop up? I am confused (as usual).

  27. Vincent Vega Says:

    Marv:

    Not sure how much practice squad players make, but I imagine it’s probably more than we do. I believe they get to travel with the team as well.

  28. Oakglenn Says:

    You know what? We can trade Wade. It doesn’t matter. We’re going to lose tomorrow because Lame is benching the starting lineup. This season’s ruined, no matter what.

  29. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Condo can back up Grove or Wakefield lol.
    start using Pmquistan he has a mean streak

  30. albert bigelow paine Says:

    Its unfortunate that the DNC is in Denver. I hate to see such a historical moment take place at the home of the Broncos.

  31. Oakglenn Says:

    No Marv we still have almost 80 guys on the roster. This game is for the 2nd stringers to get some work. It’s all scrubs all the time after half. And don’t worry about the money. They’ll make a couple of hundred grand running around pretending to be football players.

  32. Oakglenn Says:

    I was looking forward to tomorrow’s game all week. I was devastated to learn that Kiffin is sitting the starting lineup. And to think, I call other people suicidal…

  33. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    Changing direction:

    Houston has embraced the ZBS this year. They had no less than 7 OT’s going into camp. Doses anyone have ny inside stuff on who Houston has let go in regards to the OL?

  34. KoolKell Says:

    I can’t help it. I’m excited today :-) :-)

  35. KoolKell Says:

    I guess he didn’t like that Obama post.

  36. Vincent Vega Says:

    Oak:

    Dude you are becomming as nutty as the troll, he is really getting to you mang.

  37. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Now that I am here are you going to keep on using my name?

  38. Vincent Vega Says:

    I pity the po fool who dont eat my cereal…

  39. albert bigelow paine Says:

    You actually like John Travolta? I believe you may have just lost all of what little credibility you had Vincent.

  40. r8dr4lfe Says:

    triple 6
    have you heard THE BLACK KEYES “THINGS AINT LIKE THEY USED TO BE” they sound like the STONES.

  41. Oakglenn Says:

    OMG, MR, we finally agree.

  42. SilverNblack666 Says:

    r8dr4lfe

    Damn straight that song is bad ass!!

    I love the Black Keys!!!

    They do a great classic rock sound don’t they?

  43. cole Ford Says:

    Jesus was real. Although, he probably was not the son of god. MR on the other hand….

  44. Oakglenn Says:

    Good point, Wiz. I don’t like free speech, either. I think a society with no rights, where we wouldn’t even be allowed to BLOG, BLOGGITY BLOG BLOG BLOG at all would be far better than a society where people can blog and post whatever they want. You sure do have your priorities straight. Stupid redneck.

  45. Oakglenn Says:

    We agree MR, that you wear womens clothes for comfort?? I guess.

  46. DesertRaider24 Says:

    Marv Hubbard Rules Says:
    August 28th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
    What position does Obama play? I have checked ESPN, CBS, and all of the other sites and can’t find him anywhere. If he provides depth at ORT I will vote for him too.

    *****

    Actually, we need more help at LT and WR, but I appreciate your point, Marv Hubbard Rules. This blog goes back and forth between knowledgable Raider football and foolishness.

    BTW, I met Marv at Ricky’s this past summer. Very cool guy, down to earth.

  47. Oakglenn Says:

    Cause I would blog five hundred miles, and, a I would blog five hundred more…

  48. FIRE KIFFIN Says:

    The BLACK KEYS RULE.

    Just Win Baby.

  49. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I have some software that will block his IP so all of us who use it cannot see his posts.

    Can you imagine how mad the little guy would be when the only place on earth where he can get attention is taken away form him.

    He might kill his little retarded deformed self.

  50. Wiz 76 Says:

    100 miles of runnin.!

  51. Oakglenn Says:

    I actually do agree with MR for a change. He said that he’s here to sabotage the Raiders. He should. We all should. After Lane deciding to bench the starting lineup for tomorrow’s game, the most important game of the year, by far, this franchise should be yanked from Al’s cold dead hands.

  52. cole Ford Says:

    I bet Obama could play WR. He would probably drop less balls than Javon Walker.

  53. MR Says:

    I’ll just post as oakglenn for awhile, right sweetie?? Let’s see, Javon has no future, 19-61, Al has ruined the Raiders, we should bring back Jon Gruden. Anything else??

  54. 4evaRaider Says:

    there will be plenty 2 talk about tommorrow when teams make their cuts!!!come on tommorrow

  55. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Yeah triple 6 they are good never heard of them before until 1 day whent to starbucks they had it on man i was stuck i was like damn that is good music

  56. SilverNblack666 Says:

    #92 Oakglenn that is seriously funny as hell!!

  57. Oakglenn Says:

    Send it to me triple 6.

  58. CrimeD Says:

    You guys are all grommits? Is this a football blog or a fkin political blog? You rat bastard bronco fans…

  59. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    I think that it is wonderful, at least in my world that race has beome a non-issue. It wasn’t until I got the latest Lindy’s picture bio that I found out that Herm Edwards was not white. I was ranking on him strictly based upon the fact that he was coaching the queefs.

    You could have knocked me over with a feather when I found out that Cornell Green was white. I thought if you sucked really bad on the OL you would not get a pass if you were white. Cornell’s got tatoo’s and everything.

    Next color line to be broken … kickers who are black that can’t nail anything consistently beyond the forty yard line. Look out Sebass.

  60. Oakglenn Says:

    Finally, I agree with MR! He’s making sense. Keep it rolling, MR.

    One blog, one blog, you’re lucky if you have just one bloooooog, one blog, one blog, you’re lucky if you have just one…

  61. SilverNblack666 Says:

    #72 I mean

  62. Oakglenn Says:

    My favorite album:

    Too Short - Born to Blog

  63. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Sorry i spelled keys wrong got a case of the fat fingers

  64. Oakglenn Says:

    I wuz born to blog, I don’t care what you thank, too short baby…

  65. Wiz 76 Says:

    I am a nightmare walkin psychopath talkin king of my jungle just a gangster stalkin………………………..livin life like a fire cracker quick as my fuse….

  66. r8dr4lfe Says:

    What about the DEFTONES that song “MINERVA” kicks azz also

  67. Oakglenn Says:

    Looks like the mod is finally stepping in to delete all this crap. We’ve been thru this a thousands times with the mods. If the mods would just block that one IP, none of this would happen. Fascinating captain.

  68. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Oakglenn I am as still laughing at “and I will blog 500 miles”

    What do you want me to send to you Oakglenn the Black Keys song.

    I can so that if you want it.

    I have two albums of theirs.

  69. SilverNblack666 Says:

    man I love the DEFTONES too r8dr4lfe!!

    Do you like Tool or A Perfect Circle?

  70. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Yeah there good sometimes i go a little RETRO DURAN DURAN

  71. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Mod please also remove 2, 5 and 10 as they are also the troll posting as me.

    Thank you!!

  72. Rappin Ron Says:

    Yo bloggins my thing
    I aint got no Drano
    Clog in my sink
    But not in my Braino
    I can out blog you foolz like there is no tomorrow
    Take my lead, you all will follow

    word

  73. Wiz 76 Says:

    Eazy E were ya slick? Yeah, ya gotta be cunnin, I told Ice Cube to leave the car runnin…

  74. Wiz 76 Says:

    Ho, ya want a hit… ya got to get your knees dirty.

  75. Rappin Ron Says:

    Ho, ya want a hit..get a baseball bat and a ball and I will pitch it to ya b*tch

  76. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Seven nation army,Tech9,XRaided,Metalica,WAR,

  77. cole Ford Says:

    John Legend is performing at the convention. So cool.

  78. r8dr4lfe Says:

    These are the tales the freaky tales

  79. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    I don’t understand why Jerry would say some defensive coaches don’t think Williams has it. Well, who are they and why won’t you name them? If he stays it is Ryan that told Davis he wants him back until you can say Ryan no longer wants Williams but Davis said he has to keep him. Who are the mystery coaches you are hiding behind to start more specualtion about Scapegoat Al?

  80. cole Ford Says:

    Yes We Can!

  81. DesertRaider24 Says:

    “The World is a Ghetto…”

  82. cole Ford Says:

    “The World is a Vampire”

  83. Wiz 76 Says:

    I a warm summer eavning, on a train bound for nowere I met up with a gambler, we were both too tired to sleep, so took turns stairin out the window at the darkness, the boardom over took us and he bagan to speak…..

  84. Marv Hubbard Rules Says:

    52: Cole Ford ….

    The scouting report on Obama is that he has great hands but is slow off the line and does not get good separation. He is better suited as a possesion receiver. McCain is a gritty in the trench type of blocker who has seen his better days. He does not play well in space.

  85. Oakglenn Says:

    Yeh, Wiz, I’m feelin’ ya now. Sorry I called you a redneck. Wait, was that me?

  86. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I kind of feel sorry for the little guy I have been kind of lucky in my life. I was in a rock band for 15 years I’m sure I taxed more ass during a forgotten drunken weekend than he has over the course of his entire life.

    Almost makes me want buy a hooker for the feeble minded little fool then after he gets laid he might slow down on his trolling.

    How about we all pitch in and get the little indigent laid, I will throw $20 at it who else is willing to donate to the cause?

  87. Wiz 76 Says:

    These are the tails that you know so well.

  88. r8dr4lfe Says:

    You can burn that hurst im a walk to my funeral

  89. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Oak what were you wanting me to send you, a Black Keys CD?

  90. Oakglenn Says:

    Actually, Cole, here’s the scouting report:

    Obama is as qualified to run the country as anyone who’s ever lived in it.

    McCain has had Bush’s balls in his mouth for the last 8 years.

    That pretty much sums it up.

  91. cole Ford Says:

    McCains arms are too short to have been a lineman. He would probably be a kicker.

  92. r8dr4lfe Says:

    “BABY BABY I DONT WANNA LEAVE YOU I AINT JOKING WOMAN I GOT TO RAMBLE”

  93. Wiz 76 Says:

    I am a redneck, and a hillbilly, and I was raised in South Sac “916″ Detroit, and Meadowview.

    Went to Luther Burbank High.

  94. John McCain Says:

    Bring on World War III. Woo Hoo!

  95. DesertRaider24 Says:

    Sith Lord Davis Says:
    August 28th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
    I don’t understand why Jerry would say some defensive coaches don’t think Williams has it. Well, who are they and why won’t you name them? If he stays it is Ryan that told Davis he wants him back until you can say Ryan no longer wants Williams but Davis said he has to keep him. Who are the mystery coaches you are hiding behind to start more specualtion about Scapegoat Al?

    *****

    I’m guessing Martindale is being honest about Williams…you know it’s not coming from Ryan.

  96. Cole Ford Says:

    In West Philadelphia I was born and raised. On the playgrounds is where I spent most of my days….

  97. Willie Says:

    After reading Jerrys post,not much to comment on,but I will say Obamas a media created phony,MY opinion!!back later,carry on

  98. Wiz 76 Says:

    Pearched up high on a rooftop, like a bird I’m havin evil thoughts.

    After the trigger is pulled, then the goods are sealed.

  99. SilverNblack666 Says:

    r8dr4lfe

    That’s my favorite band!!

    Cole “money” Ford whats up man?

  100. r8dr4lfe Says:

    What band triple 6

  101. kevn Says:

    This blog has been destroyed by a couple of obnoxious assholes.

  102. Wiz 76 Says:

    I told you the little locs wernt playin.

    Ya got to roll with the punches, I can’t help we travle in bunches.

    Jus in case a few n!gza wanna trip, a jus pull on my ski mask and start to blast cuz n!gaz my height don’t fight!!

  103. albert bigelow paine Says:

    Willie, if you want to talk about phonies, look no further than McCain. A man who completely changed his tune by kissing the ass of Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the far right so he could get the nomination. Oh well, he is going to lose anyways. Thats what one deserves when they sell their soul to the devil.

  104. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    DesertRaider Jerry says some coaches, not one coach, but it still makes no difference unless you have credible sources you can name. This isn’t the tabloids. You can guess all you want but until Jerry steps to the plate we will never know.

  105. Oakglenn Says:

    Has the little feller finally gone to take his nap and have some juice???

  106. r8dr4lfe Says:

    Alright NATION im outty my lazy azz is leaving work early blog 2morrow

  107. cole Ford Says:

    Sheryl Crow is still hot.

  108. KoolKell Says:

    I hear there’s a group of supporters called “Rednecks For Obama”

  109. SilverNblack666 Says:

    #105 LMAO

  110. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Hell yeah Cole “money”!!

  111. albert bigelow paine Says:

    Goodnight my fellow Americans. Remember, a vote for McCain is a vote for oblivion.

  112. SilverNblack666 Says:

    r8dr4lfe

    The one you were singing

    Goodnight dude!

  113. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    Obama can get more votes in the south with a new slogan: GObama!

  114. Cole Ford Says:

    What’s up SilverNblack 666? I’m with you on your Jerry is a troll theory.

  115. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    Who will Obama call when needing advise? His cousin Dick Cheney.

  116. 408RAIDER Says:

    what up Nation?

    Freakin slave drivers didnt give me any time to blog 2day … Did I miss anything?

  117. KoolKell Says:

    Y’all remember the Summer of love in 68′

  118. KoolKell Says:

    The Raiders were 12-2 that year

  119. SilverNblack666 Says:

    408 when are you going to get a chance to come burn some afghan with me?

  120. 408RAIDER Says:

    68 was a lil b4 my time KK..

  121. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Cole it gets ridiculous in here sometimes.

  122. SilverNblack666 Says:

    KK did you see Janis?

  123. Cole Ford Says:

    The Cubs are going to win the World Series this year. Its destiny. One hundred year anniversary and Obama elected President. 2008, an amazing year. Its too bad the world is going to end in 2012.

  124. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    It was the summer of love in some areas but in others heavy metal was beginning.

  125. 408RAIDER Says:

    666
    soon brethren going 2 the 916 this weekend to visit my first ever girlfriend. :P

  126. KoolKell Says:

    Saw Janis at the Monterey Jazz Festival 67′ ?

  127. Chris in NY Says:

    If you keep the maximum numbers, by Jerry’s estimates, you have 53. 3+6+6+3+9+9+6+9+2= 53. Not really a lot of serious hacking to do.
    As far as bubble guys, Alston should definitely stick. He’s been excellent on special teams and forced a fumble as an LB vs. San Fran.

  128. Cole Ford Says:

    I just thought of something. What if Obama is the anti-christ and Al Davis is satan. The Raiders will win the 2009, 2010, and 2011 Super Bowls before the world ends. The question is for all us Raiders fans. Would your rather see the Raiders win three Super Bowls in a row if the world ended? Or, would you rather see the world survive and the Raiders never win the Super Bowl again?

  129. SilverNblack666 Says:

    KK after hearing that I don’t think I will be able to hate on you anymore.

  130. Oakglenn Says:

    MR’s finally gone. He’s taking his nap in his niner jammies. Now let’s talk about firing Lame Kiffin for benching our starters in what will surely be our biggest game of the season tomorrow night.

  131. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    We all might have 8 arms and legs but the world is here to stay. The Mayans used to sacrifice their young to the sky Gods btw.

  132. SilvernBlack666 Says:

    Yeh, you know where MR is, Oak. He’s behind the curtain at IBA.com deciding which posts he’s going to delete next. He was also involved in the Kennedy assassination.

  133. La Milicia Negra Says:

    B.Marshals suspensions reduced from 2-3weeks to just 1.. this sucks..

  134. Willie Says:

    Albert,agree to disagree,but note that I will cancel youre vote

  135. SilverNblack666 Says:

    132 is the troll

    he is back

  136. SilverNblack666 Says:

    What did you do little guy sneak out of the basement and go to the library because your IP got blocked?

    It wont last long. so get your jabs in while you can.

  137. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    Not 4 me hes on my FF team…

  138. 408RAIDER Says:

    lMN can I use firefox on a mac?

  139. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    Fisher calls a fake punt and they score from 45 yards out lol.

  140. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408..

    LOL, I got Eddie Royal, a part why I’m also is pissed =)

  141. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408..

    yup, of course =) go to google write, “FireFox” “Download” “mac”

    try this one..

    apple.com/downloads/macosx/internet_utilities/mozillafirefox.html

    Add http and www yourself..

  142. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    Im glad I didnt try and trad him seeing how the donkeys are a pass first team…

    oh Im downloading firefox I gotta use this slow comp till my laptop gets fixed.. :(

  143. La Milicia Negra Says:

    “EEEEeeeDDDDDiiiiiiiiiii, what have you done for me lateliiiiii”

  144. SilvernBlack666 Says:

    MR is a mod. He controls everything here. That’s the truth! I figured this out on my own. With mojo in my pocket, and ramblin’ on my mind.

  145. college boy Says:

    GREAT NEWS EVERYBODY–

    The real football season kicks off in about five minutes. College football that is, where every game counts. No pre-season. See tomorrow’s NFL stars today. Remember, Darren McFadden was playing college ball last year.

    CAL VS Michigan State Saturday at 5 PM.

    GO BEARS!

  146. KoolKell Says:

    Mountain, move over and let me pass,
    before they have to pull these triple A’s out of yo mf’n assz

  147. Dakota Says:

    Ok, who’s ready for me to reveal MR’s true identity? I’m not joking, people. I have his real name, email address, ISP, home address, and telephone number. Just remember, I am not responsible for anything that happens to him. This is posted for entertainment purposes, only. I can not control what people do with this information. Ok. Who’s ready?

  148. SilverNblack666 Says:

    #144 is a troll

  149. K-Rock Says:

    I am.

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  151. Kevin Says:

    KEEP ARchuleta

  152. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I just need his IP Dakota

  153. Willie Says:

    DO IT,get the scumbag out!

  154. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Dakota can you email me his IP

    You have my email address.

  155. Dakota Says:

    If you guys don’t want MR’s information, then forget it. I’m not getting much of a response, here. I am not joking. Name, address, and phone number. I’ve got his past 3 addresses. You guys are acting like you don’t care.

  156. Dakota Says:

    666, you have to promise me you’re not going to do anything illegal, and you’re just going to use it for information purposes. Say it here, because you know we’re being watched.

  157. Sirhan Sirhan Says:

    I want it. I get out in 10 years.

  158. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    Dakota won’t give it because he and MR are the same person.

  159. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I promise

  160. Dakota Says:

    Whatever, Sith Lord.

    666, give me your word. Just say you’re only going to use it for entertainment purposes, and that you have no intention of doing anything illegal with this information, and it’s on the way.

  161. Dakota Says:

    Alright, 666, it’s on it’s way. I lost your email though. What is it, again?

  162. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    Yeah right, whatever Dakota/MR.

  163. Oakglenn Says:

    Sure Dakota. bust it out. There’s plenty of people here in Oakland we can put to work.

  164. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    I did it that’s much better! Firefox rocks now maybe the spelling police wont be after me so much..

  165. Dakota Says:

    Oakglenn, this can get really serious. So you have to give me your word that you will not use the information for anything illegal. Give me your word, and I’ll e mail his information to you, for entertainment purposes only.

  166. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    Don’t flip flop Dakota like MR.

  167. Dakota Says:

    Sith, do you want the info, or not? Give me your word that you won’t do anything illegal, and that you will only use the information for entertainment purposes, and I’ll give you his blood type.

  168. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Dakota

    I give you my word. I hereby say I am only going to use it for entertainment purposes, and that I have no intention of doing anything illegal with this information.

  169. Dakota Says:

    Alright, deal, 666. Just need your e mail. I lost it.

  170. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I just emailed you Dakota

  171. Oakglenn Says:

    I have the Joke-sonville Washington game on and who was in here telling me these games sell out??? And the preseason games the stadiums are packed with fans??? Shoot there are more people on this blog right now than there are in that stadium. Must have been the clown saying that.

  172. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota

    “HELLS BELLS”

  173. dick v Says:

    I think there are some tough decisions in there. Kiffin is my guy and all, but I have to call him out on this issue again. Louis Rankin, and echamandu are good football players that will get oppertunities somewhere.
    Either Chaz schillens or shields will get the ax and the Raiders will try to slip one of them on the practice sqaud or hids sheilds on ir because of his injury. Shields may even be able to help the team this year.
    If wade gets the axe he will get an oppertunity somewhere, and he has proven he can be a solid player. On the defensive line scott is on the bubble, but he has shown flashes . At lb robert thomas is a solid back up and can play in this league

    I count 4 players and two prospects. if schillens, rankin, wade,scott and thomas are cut i would feel like i had to make some very tough decisions. Those players all have something to contribute or potential that can be tapped. kiffin better not utter he is cutting players that are not that good because he would be lying and just taking shots at Al just to grand stand. Some of us have even questioned the quick exit for Hartwell. I would hate to see Rankin in denver or scott in kc. I am curios to here some of your thoughts on this.

  174. Sith Lord Davis Says:

    Dakota I could care less who it is. What you are doing is illegal anyway if anything happens to him but I am calling your bluff and want to see you do what you said you would do and thats reveal who he is in this blog because I think you two are way too similar for me to beleive either one of you.

  175. 408RAIDER Says:

    you dakota post it I will only use it for entertainment purposes, and that you have no intention of doing anything illegal with this information

  176. SilverNblack666 Says:

    If you don’t respond I will know that you are not the real Dakota.

    Because I have Dakotas email address.

  177. MTC 693 Says:

    It makes no sense to keep Wade over Morris. Morris is
    every bit as good as Wade and is an experienced guard
    on both sides. He has never mishandeled a ball with the quarterback. He plays special teams and is 25 vs 34. Where is these even a question.

  178. DISS MAID Says:

    The posts at this site are comprised of about 10% Raiders/football talk that makes sense, about 30% Raiders/football talk that makes no sense, and about 60% name calling/taunting and off topic nonsense. Why do you all spend so much time here? People ask legitimate questions and either get no answer or ones that are rediculous.

    To Hubbard #24 and anyone else who still cares–NFL practice squad players make abut $5,500 per game or $86,000 per season.

  179. Dakota Says:

    Silvernblack, it’s simple. Give me your email, and you’ve got the info. I told you I lost your email. you can have it in 3 seconds. And you’ll own this guy. You just have to give me your email. You’re blowing the opportunity of a lifetime here.

  180. Oakglenn Says:

    That’s not Dakota is fraud boy messing with you all.

  181. Dakota Says:

    408, you’ve got it. Just need your e mail.

  182. Oakglenn Says:

    gotta agree with Diss Maid tho.

  183. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I emailed Dakota about 10 minutes a go and no response.

    You are not the real Dakota.

  184. SilverNblack666 Says:

    but I will gladly give you my email address because as soon as you send anything there I will be able to get your IP address in an instant and then I can then do whatever I want to you with no recourse.

  185. Dakota Says:

    It’s me, SnB666. My wife is using the other computer. Downloading coupons. Dude, it’s me. Just give me your e mail, and you have all of MR’s info, just like that. Within seconds! You know you want it. Just give me the e mail.

  186. dick v Says:

    mtc i would keep morris for versatlity over wade, but Wade can still play football on the nfl level. it is something to ponder. both are football players.

  187. Dakota Says:

    Exactly, 666. That’s all the more reason why you souldn’t be worried to give me your e mail. Give me your email, I mail you the MR info, and you’re a happy man. I don’t know what you’re waiting for.

  188. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Please

    Please

    Please I beg you to please send me an email!

  189. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I don’t want the MR info I want you pal.

    Send me an email please

  190. DISS MAID Says:

    will all you Azzholes please SHUT UP!

  191. Dakota Says:

    Need your address, 666. I lost it. You know, it doesn’t sound like you want MR’s info very bad. Maybe we ought to just call this off. 408’s going to have a fun night with MR’s info. Big two days for him. Have a little fun with MR’s info tonight, watch the game and drink beer tomorrow. But I’m sure you’ve got decent plans, too. Hey, sorry I bothered you.

  192. 408RAIDER Says:

    tried to fool us huh cok boy

  193. Jim Lofton Says:

    Without question Oakland should have cut Janikowski,..time to let that fat pig go,..he sucks,…head case, you can NEVER count on him in the clutch,…misses easy kicks,..his kick offs are nothing special,…hes a bust, admit it, cut him.

  194. SilverNblack666 Says:

    you have my email address, everyone in here has it. Its part of the post.
    DUH!!

  195. 408RAIDER Says:

    666

    LOL

  196. SilverNblack666 Says:

    408 you feel me?

  197. SilverNblack666 Says:

    back to Raiders…

    I hope Shields gets to play and plays well because I had high hopes for him when we drafted him.

    Chaz has at least got to play he is another one that needs a little time and he will be good.

  198. Jim Lofton Says:

    Looks like Denvers wide receiver will only miss the Oakland game,..hate to say this but I dont see us beating Denver,…only chance we have if we pass no more then 12 times,..run for about 300 yards,..no turnovers,..get 3 turnovers,…teams are going to blitz all year, Russell will be sacked all year long,..and when San Diego comes to town they might break a record for sacks in a game,…not one good receiver and Harris at left tackle makes for a long year,…keeping it real.

  199. Raider Dell Says:

    Dick V

    I agree with some of your points. Let’s talk about the OL. I believe there may be one player they like to acquire before the regular season starts.

    We are short a back-up tackle that can play either side.

    The Raiders as most NFL teams dress up 8-9 OL for a game, those back-ups have to play multiple positions.

    I don’t know how they can keep Wade, as you said Morris can play in a pinch guard or center.

    They were trying to groom Henderson to play either tackle position, he seems more comfortable on the left, but his play may require him to play right tackle.
    There he would get help from a tight end and chips from the backs.

    McQ is better suited for the RT position, his footwork is slow and he is not athletic enough for a guard, so he really can play only RT, which means Henderson has to play LT.

    I saw McQ last year play a decent RT when Green got hurt, what worrys me is Henderson at LT.

    I believe Wade just will not help if he can’t play guard.

  200. Jim Lofton Says:

    Wow,..the Raiders blog is reduced to losers who are only interested in using others names and trying to get each others emails to play games with,..hope no other NFL teams fans look at this blog, they will think its a bunch of little girls in here.

  201. Dakota Says:

    666, where is your email address? There’s only a link to your band, bud. Is that your e-mail?

  202. 408RAIDER Says:

    I like chaz but he needs to do a lot more if he’s going to rep #81 the way it deserves to be represented…

  203. Dakota Says:

    Lofton, you want MR’s info? I’ve got it.

  204. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Lizardking666@yahoo.com

  205. Jim Lofton Says:

    However Im not surprised,..there are only a couple in here besides me that actually go to all the games,..the rest are dorks who are more interested in a blog wherethey can act tough and behave like little kids,…and you know who you are.

  206. Jim Lofton Says:

    No thanks dakota,..why would I want it?

  207. SilverNblack666 Says:

    now as soon as you email me I will have your IP and you can expect a knock on the door in about 30-45 minutes.

    If you live in the Bay Area that is.

  208. Dakota Says:

    I don’t know. Everyone else here does.

  209. 408RAIDER Says:

    dude hes gonna spam you with gay porn and virus’

  210. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I think Shields will make the team. They cant let a hot young prospect like that go.

  211. Jim Lofton Says:

    Hey 666, you only make people laugh at you when you act tough and try to intimidate…stop humiliating yourself.

  212. Dakota Says:

    666, forget it, then. If you’re going to threaten me. I thought you wanted his info. Now you’re turning on me. Forget it, dude.

  213. 408RAIDER Says:

    jim don’t feed the troll

  214. SilverNblack666 Says:

    He cant

    I am protected and about 1,000 more times tech savvy than any troll.

  215. Jim Lofton Says:

    Iv seen 666 post before,..I think this is another person using his name,…he didnt used to act like a wannabe tough guy, usually posted football stuff,…anyone seen brien?…need to get a message to him.

  216. Jim Lofton Says:

    I think a player is dead at nc state/S carolina game…huge hit.

  217. SilverNblack666 Says:

    As sonn as my email is spammed I get the source code with the emails and have a reverse IP program that reports it directly and gives me a physical address.

    I work for a network software security company.

  218. Dakota Says:

    Alright, you’re tech savvy. I get it. Is that how you figured out MR was a mod here, genius? A second ago you were making an explosion in your pants about getting MR’s information. Scroll up and see. Now you’re threatening me. You’ve got issues, dude. Now I’m wondering if you really would have done something illegal to MR. I’m glad I didn’t give it to you, now. I don’t want to be responsible for whatever it is you were going to do.

  219. Jim Lofton Says:

    666 works at McDonalds.

  220. Jim Lofton Says:

    Im out,..hopefully later tonight I will pop in here looking for brien, hope you little girls are gone by then, but I doubt it.

  221. 408RAIDER Says:

    Jim = hypocrite

  222. Dakota Says:

    666, you’re trying to sound all smart right now. But remember, it was you who came up with the kooky theory that MR is a mod here. LOL. Even the other Al die hards don’t go that far. So, as far as your big talk about being tech savvy, you kind of already took a credibility hit there, know what I’m saying?

    Just remember this, sophisticated, tech savvy one. When I offered up MR’s info, you jumped up and down like a kid in front of an ice cream truck. Everyone else here knew I was full of it. But you’re really upset right now that it was all a hoax. You really wanted MR’s info, because he makes fun of your gay band. Am I supposed to believe now that you’re also an internet savvy go getter?

  223. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408..

    you, firefox is a treat =) microsoft is for amateurs =) One of the feats i like is video looks better in firefox, and the way you can have more screens open in one window.. a feature explorer tried to copy, but effed totally up..

  224. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Whats wrong with working at McDonald’s you get free chicken McNuggets!

  225. SilverNblack666 Says:

    LMN Firefox is great its way better than the alternative.

  226. SilvernBlack666 Says:

    I’m tech savvy! Don’t mess with me. Email me, and you’ll get a knock on your door within 30 minutes. Probably from some cop who’s going to give you a warning, and who only responded to my call because I lied my ass off and said I was threatened. I have a life. MR is a mod! Cosmic Dance Band 4 ever!

  227. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    I haven’t figured out how to do the tabs thingy yet.. Also this is the community computer in the house so I need my own browser with favorites and such..

    this thing runs safari

  228. SilvernBlack666 Says:

    I want MR’s info!

    Please please please please please!!!!!!!

    Oh, it was a hoax?

    Darn.

    I really wanted his info. He makes fun of my favorite corny band and hurts my feelings. I really want to, let’s just say, have a man to man chat with him. Too bad. And, I want to talk to him about being such a horrible mod here. He’s a mod! I can prove it! I’m tech savvy!

  229. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Little retarded deformed troll guy.

    I tried playing nice with you and so did 408 we all know you are not Dakota dude that’s why we acted like we wanted the email because the real Dakota would have emailed me and not had to put it in the blog. Sorry to burst your little bubble but we knew it was you all along and we played along and now I am sorry because I thought it was funny buts its not its sad.

    Seriously sad how worked up you get.

    You should really seek mental help little troll guy.

  230. dick v Says:

    dell i am not sure about being short a back up tackle that can play either side. Mcquistain is listed as the back up lt right now, and we all saw him do a solid job last year after the titan game. He started a rt the 4 game strecth when the o line gave up no sacks or 1 sack something like that. I know he is not fast enough to start or whatever, but he can play both in my opinion. I haven’t seen him at left, but that is where they have him listed. He sounds like the guy. He has proven to be a solid contributer b d when called on.

  231. SilverNblack666 Says:

    226 and 228 are Troll

  232. SilverNblack666 Says:

    The melt down has begun and its not even 7:00

    Who had 6:15 in the office pool today was that you 408?

  233. SilvernBlack666 Says:

    I’m tech savvy! I can prove 226 and 228 are trolls! Just like I proved MR is a mod! Just like I can be at your door within 30 minutes of you emailing me! I work for a software security company. I’m a made man in the geek squad.

  234. Dakota Says:

    No, the melt down began when a certain commenter here jumped up and down like a kid when I was pretending to offer up MR’s info. Your ass was shown today, 666.

  235. FANG Says:

    …what a TALENTLESS roster

  236. 408RAIDER Says:

    Na I always take 5:30

  237. Dakota Says:

    408, you blew your wad, too. Notice how nobody else really cared? Even Oakglenn rejected. But you and 666 were like a couple of fish that hadn’t been fed. You guys are a couple of serious dorks. I’m not joking.

  238. 408RAIDER Says:

    this guy is giving me a headache

  239. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408..

    its ctrl t in windows, think its apple t on a mac.. I’ve sold my mac, but all my friends use firefox on theirs, never safari

  240. 408RAIDER Says:

    yeah I’m a dork so what! I play video games & comment on this blog.. and I can always spot you cok boy.. ur a joke

  241. Dakota Says:

    It’s you being a complete dork, and realizing it, that’s giving you a headache.

  242. La Milicia Negra Says:

    LMN are watching oregon st vs stanford, LOL, good the season has begun =)

  243. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Fake Dakota the jokes on you pal.

    Do you really think I care about some little retarded kid. I know the real Dakota so calm down and take your med psycho freak.

  244. silver and black chef Says:

    408,
    wuz good, slow night at the restaurant and just checkin in. Whats up with dude posin as Dakota.
    Fukkin Trolls.

  245. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I am gone for a couple hours and I come back to multiple postings of me and all kinds of weird crap.

    First off I am not a techy, second I just checked my email and there is no email from Dakota so all of you children that have been using my name, Dakotas name and oakglenns name can keep it up because I don’t care.

    I think its funny!!

  246. 408RAIDER Says:

    Life is good CHEF!

    I’m trying to learn my way around firefox on this lame mac.. Oh and arguing with mr ( don’t ask why) whats new bro?

    oh I’m gonna break a lot of bottles tomorrow!! LOL

  247. SilverNblack666 Says:

    The Real SNB666 talks football and doesn’t care if trolls mock him.

  248. JD Says:

    Marv, this may have been answered in the one of the previous 242 entries but here goes anyways.

    Practice squad players should not need to get another job (unless they live in this overpriced state (CA)).

    The minimum that teams can pay practice squad players is almost $90k/yr. That is about $200K less than the minimum that they have to pay for active rookies (currently $285K I believe) but it is still a very solid paycheck for 17 weeks of work.

  249. SilverNblack666 Says:

    I made a bet with one of my patriot fan friends that LaMont Jordon wouldn’t make it through 8 games with his injury prone ass.

    408 and chef what do you think is it a good bet?

  250. 408RAIDER Says:

    so when are we going to get boldin?<