Lelie added, Joseph cut
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008 at 1:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders officially added Ashley Lelie to the roster Tuesday and released defensive tackle William Joseph.
Lelie will wear No. 87 when the Raiders resume practice Wednesday in preparation for the Sept. 8 season opener against the Denver Broncos.
There have been no other moves yet, but fullback Luke Lawton is expected to be added to the roster Wednesday, meaning another player will have to be released.
Upshaw memorial
Raiders owner Al Davis did not attend the memorial service for NFLPA union chief and former Raider Hall of Fame guard Gene Upshaw, but he he chartered a jet with with the following contingent to represent the Raiders: Carole Davis, Clem Daniels, Otis Sistrunk, Morris Bradshaw, Tom Flores, Rod Martin, Willie Brown, George Atkinson, Raymond Chester, Art Thoms and Jack Tatum.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Top 5
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
good bye Joseph
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
yeah keep Chaz!
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
1st
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Gene will be missd.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:31 pm
william joseph won’t be missed.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:31 pm
What a claasy move by AD!
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Another one bites the dust. How Lelie helps I don’t know but I guess we can use all the help at receiver we can get.
I hate to say Monday nite is a “must win” game so early in a season, but Monday nite is a “must win” game for the Raiders.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Only 3 dt’s?
Kelly,Warren,Sands?
What kind of rotation are we going to have. Kelley and Sands reportedly aren’t in great shape.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Readin a new thread is better than sex!
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Yeah Big Al picking up the tab for the Jet! Another classy move by Our Leader!
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Do we need to make room for lawton?
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:42 pm
if there going to be another cut it would be a LB and sign a good linebacker on the strongside.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:42 pm
915Raider: For the money Sands and Kelly are paid, they better be in shape come next week
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Yes one more cut coming. I say another DT, just carry two.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:44 pm
thec
yep
I vote to cut Eugene that guy blows & sam williams
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:44 pm
thec, yep. If we add Lawton to the actives, someone is gonna have to go.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:44 pm
A young boy enters a barber shop and the barber whispers to his customer, “This is the dumbest kid in the world. Watch while I prove it to you.”
The barber puts a dollar bill in one hand and two quarters in the other, then calls the boy over and asks, “Which do you want, son?”
The boy takes the quarters and leaves.
“What did I tell you?” said the barber. “That kid never learns!”
Later, when the customer leaves, he sees the same young boy coming out of the ice cream store. “Hey, son! May I ask you a question? Why did you take the quarters instead of the dollar bill?”
The boy licked his cone and replied,”Because the day I take the dollar, the game’s over!”
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:48 pm
thats what I dont understand how could you not be in shape. That should be a condition of your getting paid, you stay in shape. I question ones commitment to the NATION if they cant be accoutable for themselves. Dont just sit at home eating twinkies and big macs all day, go effing work the hell out. do some cardio…
Lift weights, hell you get to get strong and yoked for free…WTF
On another note I still dont like the lelie signing but what are U gonn do? I have zero pull with AL so…..
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:50 pm
This team can’t get through the season with just 3 DT’s considering our porous D-line. I think Kiffin is gonna carry 6 or 7 WR’s for the first week, and then cut the bottom 1 or 2. Then he can add an available DT to the roster after Week 1. That way he can audition all of the WR’s and have Lelie and Walker on-board for the revenge factor against the Buncos.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:50 pm
#18
funny joke! you got more?
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I wonder who’s idea it was to sign lelie? I know he is a member of the NATION so I will be rooting for him to succeed. Just wonder was it Al, or Kiff.
I hope Huff, and Hall are okay after losing a family member. Huff, lost his grandfather. Hall lost his dad.
hope these guys greived appropreitly.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
thec: i agree dont understand it. i know kelley was hurt but whats sands excuse. hes supposed to be a professional athelete.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Sign Dre Moore!
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Richardson can play DT too, so I don’t mind only having 3 DTs. I’m guessing Sam Williams will go so we can sign Lawton.
I really hope we release Johnnie Lee Higgins and sign Chad Jackson.
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WHRxXY67UA&feature=related
This is a laugh! NOt as funny as Kiffin coaching the Raiders, but it’ll make ya smile!
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Darn!
I thought we signed Leelee Sobieski!
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:55 pm
BBB, I like your logic and thinking Bro, only prob is If we cut the bottom 2 that means we lose watkins, schilens….. To me that would suck. I would hate to see lelie drop a pass or two.
I like the Idea that we coach up, train up, develop up, grow up our own WR’s…
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pm
For those of you still looking for weapons of mass destruction!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D3IUa4zDQA&feature=related
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Lelie is a better player than Drew Carter (compare their stats), so this is a upgrade.
Plus he’s a former UH Warrior!!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:01 pm
sam williams will be gone.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Brad:
Chad Jackson would be a nice addition, but Higgins will stay.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Lelie had a very good season in ‘05, if he can return to that form it would be awsome. It’s the same thing with Walker, we’re hoping these guys can play like they did in Denver, which is a very similar system. It’s funny how I used to hate both of these recievers, and now support them wholeheartedly. Welcome to the Raiders, kick some a$$ or leave fast!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
[...] writer Jerry McDonald reported on his blog that Oakland will look to sign Luke Lawton on Wednesday, which will mean that another player will be given their release to make room for the [...]
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:04 pm
I’d release Trevor Scott and place him on the practice squad. I’d keep Williams for his special teams play.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
I thought lawton signed allready
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:09 pm
OC Raider–
You have big problems if reading about Ashley Lelie signing and William Joseph being cut get you off. That joke was funny though.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I wouldn’t mind signing waived whiners fullback Moran Norris. He is a waayyy better blocker than Lawton, although Lawton has the better hands. We need a solid blocker for Fargas and McFadden!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
When the dust clears in the SEC this year, defense will be standing tall and one team will reign supreme.
I predict a BCS bowl for the Wildcats this year.
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/teamReport?categoryId=86098&type=InsideSlant
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Why is Terdell Sands not in shape, what’s his excuse this year?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Welcome aboard Lelie. Hop[e your one of the many in Raider lore who revie their careers in Oaktown.
Joseph seems like he’s done.
I felt he might’ve been ready to achieve since he missed so many camps in NY, but had 3 years to get in gear.
too bad, we could’ve used the run D.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:21 pm
OC Raider is the man!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:22 pm
sands kool Kell?
He weighs 9 tons. Not exactly a tri athlete, but had some minor injury issues in camp that may have affected his cardio.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
TR:
If you want a road-grader for a fullback we should check out Regan Mauia who was released by the Dolphins. This kid was a 300 lb. fullback at Hawaii and he can run a little. He trimmed down when he got to the pros, but he is still a load.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
TR I wonder about former SD FB Andrew Pinnock.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Mauia? Have to check that out, but catching out of the back field is improtant for Oak. They’d like a well rounded guy, but man, if he can get second level and blow suckers out…
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
But I am a Pac10 fan and the pac is loaded this year.
I cant wait for the Trojans to stomp the buckeyes a mudhole in Ohio this year.
Best year ever for the men from Troy?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Don’t make excuses. Kiffin says Sands is not in game shape, can’t play many consecutive plays. What’s his excuse?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Why didn’t Terdell Sands show up at camp in shape?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Let’s see, we’ve got 3 DT’s on the roster, one is coming back from a season-ending injury and it out of shape, one takes plays off, and the third one is out of shape. You would think the Raiders would have kept Joseph just to give the other out-of-shape DT’s a break. Call me crazy, but I’m guessing that the run D will the #1 problem…… again…
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 pm
N21:
Mauia wasn’t asked to catch a lot of passes (except for the occasional shovel pass) in June Jone’s spread offense, he was mainly a blocker.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:29 pm
rosevilleraider: my point exactly.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I am worried that we have only three DTs on the roster and two of them are notoriously fragile. Joseph may not have proved himself worthy of being a 1st round pick, but he was a reasonable back-up.
It isn’t like Kiffin to take such a risk, so maybe another DT is on the radar.
Dre Moore is on the Bucs Practice Squad was we can only claim him for a roster spot. He clearly has potential but is he ready to play? Monte thinks not.
Lawton, or another FB, must be signed before Monday. It would be ridiculous to go into a crucial game with just one FB - especially as we will be running on 70% of the plays.
I still like Chad Jackson. His ACL injury lost him any chance of breaking into the starters in New England. He can fly.
I suspect that this roster may change a few more times before the weekend.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Two words: Dre Moore!! Kiffin, Ryan and Al would be crazy to attempt getting through this season with only 3DT’s considering how maligned the D-Line was last year.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:33 pm
It’s certainly a head-scratcher.
You would think that the Raiders would cut someone who would probably not see the field on Monday, instead of a guy that was in game-day rotation.
Also, I don’t think that they will find a guy sitting around, that was just cut, that can just waltz-in and play better than Joseph.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Kool Kell:
“Why didn’t Terdell Sands show up at camp in shape?”
Round is a shape.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:35 pm
The roster has to change theres no way we can go into the season with roster staying in its present form. We need another FB and one more DT. Question is who do you cut?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:36 pm
BART:
Dre LESS!
He was a long shot who only showed promise very late in his college career.
I wonder if its his work ethic cuz he had ALOT of ground to make up in technique and such.
Hard tellin’.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
If I needed three spots, I would cut Tui, Sam Williams and Eugene.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
I heard Dre Moore came into camp out of shape, which is not encouraging, but at this point we need a 4th DT, and considering William Joseph was our 5th best option in the pre-season, I do believe a guy like Dre Moore could step in and be a better option. He would play sparingly and learn on the job.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Davis is so old he’s OLDE.
May not be in travelin’ shape or just had bidness.
You can bet he’ll run the Raiders from beyond the grave for at least a few years.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Since they cut Joseph, they will rotate Wakefield at DT
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 pm
And with Wakefield at DT, it’ll be a “wake’ every week as the run D dies a painful, slow death
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
BART: Man, That would be great if he could contribute.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Al’s BPA:
He seems like a Jack of all, master of none.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 pm
I like Wakefield’s flexibility and attitude but, the sad truth is that he isn’t really good enough in any of the many positions he can cover. The Joseph cut makes no sense unless a better alternative is on a plane heading towards Oakland.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Wakefield is versitile. He could contribute on all three units if needed. We need to remember whoever we sign would need to play on special teams in order to dress on Sundays.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Scottish:
Joseph just didn’t have value as a S-Teamer.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Sec 128 Row 9
I CANT WAIT MUCH LONGER!!!!!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:51 pm
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September 2nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Anyone think John Lynch would help us?
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
2007 DT’s
Warren Sapp
Gerard Warren
Terdell Sands
Tommy Kelly
Tyler Brayton
2008 DT’s
Tommy Kelly
Gerard Warren
Terdell Sands
we have to get another DT!! Just as you say Scottish; they wouldn’t cut Joseph unless another DT was on the way or in their sites.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I love Wakefield’s attitude. How many guys would just do the job if asked to play as many positions as he has? Not many. He just isn’t an answer at any one position as a viable backup. That versatility is the only reason he’s on the roster.
I hope we can add a viable 4th DT before next Monday. If that doesn’t happen, we’ll be hearing rumors from BSPN that the raiders are switching to a 3-4, lol.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:54 pm
This is what the donkey’s have coming!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V55Zq5whVCI&feature=related
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:54 pm
808,
I’m not familiar with Mauia. Sounds like he could barrel down defenders. Like Nnamdi21 I’ll have to do a little research on him. Really the only thing I’m worried whoever we sign has to have decent catching ability, otherwise we’re screwed. I think that is the reason they are going to sign Lawton.
Nnamdi21,
I think the problem with Andrew Pinnock was inconsistency. I think that is why the Chargirls cut him. I really don’t think he would be a good fit in our system. Honestly, we had a good thing with O’Neal. The guy could catch and block, losing him was a pretty big hit.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Fire Kiffin before the season starts please.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
808, I don’t think you can make that a condition. We just need a capable 4th DT - a Special Teams contribution would just be a bonus.
Fact: Tommy Kelly isn’t yet 100% ready - and his leg has yet to be tested over 4 quarters.
Fact: Gerard Warren is still scarily inconsistent - if Bad Gerard takes the field, he need to find another option, and quick.
Fact: Terdell Sands will not last 4 quarters, his fitness isn’t at the right level and his temperament is still very suspect.
It would be madness to play the Broncos with just those three and a jack-of-all-trades like Wakefield on the roster. Shanarat would have the Broncos runnung straight all night. Madness.
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Kiffin needs to win Monday Nite, period!
Losing the home opener, on Monday Nite, with a national TV audience, against rival Denver, will produce a huge nasty raspberry boil on Mr Davis’s assz. And sheit will roll downhill.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Terdell Sands obviously has a questionable work etic.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Ashley Lelie is nothing more than no. 4 WR at this point in life….My god I wanted to keep Joseph…………who do they plan to be the 4th DT? Man this insanity going on now
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:03 pm
OC “Readin a new thread is better than sex!”
No, just …. no.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
agreed Scottish, if Sands, Kelly or Warren got injured then the remaining two would be playing every down without anyone subbing in. We all know that is not possible with this group, and the probability of one of them getting injured is high. Also, Wakefield has been mostly playing at DE, not DT. Assuming he could fill in at DT is a big IF.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Could we be going into the season with 6 WRs?…
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Excuse me! but haven’t you guy’s noticed that 90% of DT’s aren’t in the best of shape. People in here were crying for Grady Jackson and he’s never been in shape in his entire life.
AS long as they play well who cares!
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
11680- possibly it seems like it………….gosh I dont like Lelie at all
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
BHP I agree!!! I felt Joseph or Shaw should have stayed….Lelie sucks man
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
WTF!!! how do we cut a DT that was figured to be in the rotation, for Lelie???
Who is the running sh*t ? I doubt it’s Uncle Al (isn’t he at Genes funeral?)
This could be disastrous, sign a banged up WR that most likely will not contribute at all….and waive a DT that’s been with us all training camp, that would definitely help against the run (denvers only hope to win). How does this make any frickin sense???
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Yo brien.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Yup, we really, really, really need to win on Monday.
If we win, then we should get the confidence and momentum necessary to drive towards 2nd place in the AFC West. The Broncos would be delated and the pressure on Kiff would be greatly reduced.
If we lose, then the doubts creep in, the press will start to smear and insinuate, confidence will crack and Kiff will be on a very short rope.
The good news is that we should win. We are stronger than last season, whilst the Broncos don’t show much signs of improvement. We can run against Denver and we can manage the clock and field possession. A long hour of attrition - unspectacular but relentless running football - should see us home.
Fingers crossed. Toes crossed.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
“The Falcons dumped him after one year in 2006 and the 49ers — who are as receiver-challenged as anyone in the league — dropped him one year after handing out a $2 million guarantee.”
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
I heard Joseph about to sign with Denver.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Scottish,..at least if Denver crushes Oakland then maybe Kiffin will get fired after the game,..so there will at least be some good out of a loss.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Scottish:
If your a 4th team (Not 1st, 2nd, or 3rd) you better be able to do something else! Or you’re not dressing on Sunday. It’s a 53 player roster, but you don’t dress 53 on game days. BTW Richardson would be our 4th DT.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Lol…damn, two former donker wrs lining up for us on game-day…and a former raider in the middle trying to stop our three-headed monster.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Sup Jim……….my god joseph sign with denver? dammit what the phuck is going on man………we need a 4th DT more than a garbage ass WR who hasn’t done really anything since 2004!!! My lord are my dreams going downthe drain?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
oops….donkey
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
KK:
He wasn’t dumped by the Falcons…Lelie opted out of the final year of his contract and became a free agent. In SF he didn’t fit Martz’s system.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Ashley Lelie= 4 damn 100 yard games in his entire career…………….yawwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnn he is nothing more than a 4th WR
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
maybe lelie will stretch the field, thus keeping the defense honest….disuading them from stacking the box. opens up the run game a bit and the flats for screens and dump-offs.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
“Excuse me! but haven’t you guy’s noticed that 90% of DT’s aren’t in the best of shape. People in here were crying for Grady Jackson and he’s never been in shape in his entire life.
AS long as they play well who cares!”
Yeah, If brother, If. Although it hasn’t been done in the last 6 years.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:14 pm
808, sorry but, I still think it would be suicidal to dress less than 4 DTs on match day - especially as the middle of our DLine was the weakest point in our 2007 defense and its is bound to be the area that our opponents are going to attack in 2008.
We need 4 DTs more than 6WRs or 3TEs or 7LBs.
Kelly, Warren and Sands just won’t be enough. We need a capable 4th DT ready to face down the Broncos.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Giggity NO!! Lelie sucks man plain and simple……..JLH for 3rd WR I’ll be content with Watkins and Schilens battling it out for 4th and 5th
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:16 pm
David White SFgate:
If Lelie doesn’t work out, it’s not that big a deal. He got a one-year deal for the veteran’s minimum. They could cut him as fast as they did Mike Williams last year in-season and look elsewhere.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Oh my god dont give me this system fit bullshhhhhhhhit….stop with the excuses…..Lelie is a fast guy but not a good football player………..please
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm
I guess we can beg Josh Shaw back?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
My dreams still alive brien,..Kiffin fired after denver game.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Personally, I think DE should be more of a concern. Richardson would be our “swing” player DE/DT. All we have on the outside is Burgess, Scott, & Edwards.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Lord if you do exist……..please have the Raiders sign Willie Anderson…I can give a damn about fitting the zone blocking system……hell zone blocking doesnt mean shhhhhhhhhhit when the LT can pass block
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Sounds like Al is getting weaker and weaker by the day if he wasn’t able to make the memorial for Gene. I know Gene is one of his favorites and it must eat him to not be able to attend.
Only 3 DTs? Kinda scary how lite our depth is there. I hope it gets addressed after the first week.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
brien you goin to denver game?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:19 pm
For those who care, the Raiders were 1 or 1.5 point underdogs on opening night for the last few months. Saturday I saw the line went to 3 and at lunch a book had them 3.5 point underdogs. Not sure what moved the line so much
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Why is everyone so worried about the DT’s. It dont see Josh Shaw or Joseph being snatched up by any other teams haha. We can always resign them later or add another 4th DT. Those guys didnt show enough to warrant being kept safe. They most likely will sit and wait for us to call. Maybe we can swing a trade for another young DT. IM not worried at this point. Unless someone gets injured during the game it shouldnt be an issue. We can always throw J.Rich or Wakefield down there in an emergency.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Brien you are such an idiot…
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
brien did dave send you any picks from the KISS concert at Konocti?…it was off the hook,…dave took about 5oo pics….major party.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Dick V if you are out there I grabbed a list of all teams over/under win totals for the year. Sorry it took so long, I’ll post them if you want me to
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
The Tennessee and Arizona games, probably affected the bookmakers. Still too many false starts, same as last year. Still can’t score Touchdowns, same as last year. Still getting gouged on the ground, same as last year.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Jim……..Kiffin can stay or go…..makes me none……..a loss on monday and you will see some angry people…………kwame harris,cornell green and grove wont cut it on the line
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
JWB:
My point exactly.
Let’s look at the glass as half-full.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Coming from a person with SoCal Raiders that is a joke…….the smog gettin to ya pal?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Trust me. The Raiders will not go into the season with 3DTs. If they released Joseph, they already have someone else lined up to replace him (if they have no plans to bring him back). We just don’t know who that person is yet.
Just like when they released Sims before knowing the replacement.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:30 pm
One name missing from the Chartered Jet. ART SHELL!
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Jim I’ll be out there
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Okay enough with all the negativity.
I think the Raiders will be much improved this season and I think we’ll be an exciting team to watch.
I can’t wait to see how Russell, DMC, Bush, Hall, Huff, & Walker pan out. I don’t expect things to be perfect. There’s going to be a learning curve for the young guys and the new acquisitions. But I’m looking forward to this season.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
I’m a little worried about cutbacks against this run defense though (prob more than a little). Tennessee made them pay on one run where Morrison over pursued and the play called left no one in the vicinity to stop fatso, LenDale White.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Well Terp we shall see!!! Right now its up in the air………….the Tackle situation on offense is a problem………..huge problem
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:33 pm
808 if you think JLH is not in the mix for that then you are crazy
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:33 pm
BriEn:
You aint my pal, you are a b!tch azz poser.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I could see what Morrison was doing though. He was aiming to plug a gap made on the right side of the Dline. But Tenn’s play called for a cutback which left the defense exposed b/c no one was on that side of the field.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I agree with post 127.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Prob not as much of a problem as you would assume Brien. So longs as the team can run and run well, the tackles should be OK. This was illustrated against Tenn too.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Brien assumes alot, because he is a tool.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Shut your tongue ring LA society having self up……..go play in west hollywood you bitch
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
oh lookey lookey…….its the republican key note speaker Dakota in the house
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
What did you just say? I don’t read or understand moron.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Troll,
You calling people Posuers??????????????????
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
tool of knowledge mr NRA
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Here’s what I’m hoping for:
Defense…Tommy Kelly returns to full health and playing the 3-tech plays at Pro Bowl level…Burgess stays healthy and records 12 sacks and makes the Pro Bowl…Nnamdi continues his improvement and with the help of Hall on the other side makes the Pro Bowl…Huff switching to FS helps fans remember why he was a top ten draft pick…Howard and Morrison continue to make plays.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Kell lol
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Brien,
I don’t think that’s Dakota. Dakota’s always been a gentleman with me.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
WE may be leaning to more 3/4 alignment, who knows?
But everything is not a “crisis” relax.
They’ll get done what they need to get done. Their jobs are on the line.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 pm
808- if all are healthy that scenario is most likely to play out
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Brien:
What about JLHiggins?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:40 pm
A gentleman with you? Why because I let you lube and give you a reach around makes me a gentleman?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:41 pm
808 also having Wilson just does wonders for the defense as a hole…….there will be a few head scratching moments but the defense will be to our satisfaction
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Blackholepriest Says:
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
WE may be leaning to more 3/4 alignment, who knows?
But everything is not a “crisis” relax.
They’ll get done what they need to get done. Their jobs are on the line.”
Relax, relax, relax. They’ve won 19 out of their last 80, and we should all relax, relax, relax.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
808
I think JLH will be the number 1 receiver in the NFL by week 2. Plus his run skilzz be da bomb yo
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
JLH will play a bigger role than people think this season……..I would take him over Lelie………Ashley cant catch AIDS in SF
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Vegas Raider–I hear you on the line movement. I’m beginning to think that the oddsmakers may either be really out of touch, or they have access to info we regular fans don’t. I was just blown away by the fact that we’re even home underdogs. Damn, I hope it’s just a lack of respect / knowledge–I was hoping to cash in this Monday.
Do you have a favorite place to watch the Raiders, or do you have the Direct TV package? The R-J put out their list of football bars around the valley, and FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE I’VE BEEN HERE (going on 9 years), there is NO RAIDER BAR LISTED. I’m hoping that the Offramp Lounge, the headquarters of the Raider Booster Club, Las Vegas Chapter last year, will be showing games again this season.
*****
As to the DT situation…I’m going to assume that Al and the defensive staff are sifting through the garbage cans, and will find an adequate backup…they may also be waiting until after Week #1 to pick one up so they won’t be liable for a vet’s minimum salary for the whole season. Going through a season with only 3 DTs is crazy, especially given our #31 ranking against the run last year.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
post 40 I agree and have stated we look like a 3-4,prolly 35% of time
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Then climb the damn walls KK, see where it get’s ya’
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:43 pm
right post 146………..copycat the master but it shows how weak you are
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Actually I am wrong, Lelie will replace JLH.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Happy 42nd. Birthday, Salma Hayek
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Relax, relax, relax, don’t worry about winning, just keep buying tickets and relax, relax, relax.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Salma Hayek is ugly. I like Brad Pitt.
JLH is da shiz nit.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Relax, don’t do it, when you want to get to it, relax don’t do it, when ya wanto call…
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:45 pm
See the more trash posts by the troll? Lelie is garbage……..only four 100 yard games in his career……man this guy is nothing more than a 4th WR at this point in his life
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Salma Hayek has lost it………..plastic surgery is disgusting
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
HOPING PART 2:
OFFENSE…JRuss continues his development and improves with every game…The line playing in the zone blocking system for the second year improves and the Raiders become a top 5 rushing team…Fargas, DMC, Bush trio is better than Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes…Walker gains 1,000 yards and scores 8 TDs…Zack Miller helps us remember the days of Casper, Chester, Christensen.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I bet we ask Shaw to come back. We will need more than 3 DT’s to play any game. As for Sands not being in shape I have an idea…Take some string and tie a twinkie on the end of a stick and make him chase it. The weight could be off before game time Monday night.
We should stick with the receivers we have. We dont know what Schillens or Watkins have, we do however know exactly what we are getting in Lelie (SUX BIGTIME). I am not encouraged with what has happened the last couple days. Dont like picking over the bones of other teams castoffs….PHUCK!
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Brien..
Why do you always bring up aids?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Yawwwwwwwwnnnnnnn troll boy you are thinking about Brad Pitt again? Gonna room up with John Travolta and watch the best of Brad Pitt on bule ray?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
808Raidah Says:
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Here’s what I’m hoping for:
Defense…Tommy Kelly returns to full health and playing the 3-tech plays at Pro Bowl level…Burgess stays healthy and records 12 sacks and makes the Pro Bowl…Nnamdi continues his improvement and with the help of Hall on the other side makes the Pro Bowl…Huff switching to FS helps fans remember why he was a top ten draft pick…Howard and Morrison continue to make plays.
*****
Good to see you back posting, 808! Mahalo! I have the same hopes for our D, but right now, there are too many questions. The ONLY area that is solid on D right now is the secondary–AND THE DEPTH THERE IS THIN. After the starters, there is only Routt that I really feel comfortable with…Hiram Eugene? Chris Johnson?? Rashad Baker???
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Josh Shaw signed w/ the Broncos.
Think Shanny might be mining for some inside info?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
<————– The real Brien actually like Lelie and thinks he was a moderate to decent pickup. Better than a 4th wr the troll is claiming. Who cares what you do troll, the real members of this blog know who me is.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
I do not always bring up AIDS………..go dig up some previous post detective and see how bad your projection is
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:49 pm
The biggest problem we have w/ running a 3-4 is Warren at that NT when the opponent decides to run. As far as I have seen, Warren cannot hold the point when he’s doubled. He’s on skates. Sands can if he plays with leverage.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Wow Brien. Do you always post like that? Why are you so angry?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Authentic:
All Lelie needs to be is better than Drew Carter (the player he’s replacing) anything else will be a bonus.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Troll keep trying…………you cant even come under your own name because you got smashed by so many on this blog
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Becuz I am interested in gays and aids, you gots a problem with dat? LMN jerk off?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Les Stround…….If you cant see the 15 year old copying my posts then I dont know what to tell you
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
LMN,
The troll is obsessed with Gay juvenile humor. He may have been sexually abused by his mother or stepfather.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
DesertRaider24: Not that suprised that the Raiders are 3 point dogs as much as I am suprised that the line moved literally 2 points overnight, when it stayed at 1.5 for months. Javon Walker injury maybe, the donkeys have looked good but preseason usually doesn’t move lines. You know the saying out here “home dogs cover”. Just hope that doesn’t mean we lose by 2.
I am at the Hilton just about every Sunday, except when the games is televised, which isn’t often. No DirectTV. Have you been to the Hilton theater, not the sportsbook but the theater they open up on Sundays? I have watched a few games at the bar at the Speedway, which is a Raiders bar, but not sure why it wasn’t printed in the RJ last week.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Terp no way can Warren play NT in the 3-4…….Disaster
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
808Raidah Says:
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
HOPING PART 2:
OFFENSE…JRuss continues his development and improves with every game…The line playing in the zone blocking system for the second year improves and the Raiders become a top 5 rushing team…Fargas, DMC, Bush trio is better than Jordan, Fargas, Rhodes…Walker gains 1,000 yards and scores 8 TDs…Zack Miller helps us remember the days of Casper, Chester, Christensen.
*****
Again, I have the same hopes, but those OTs…especially Kwame…they’re question marks right now…it would also be nice to see our WRs actually catch the damn ball more often…Miller seems to be the only one right now who can catch consistently.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Kell……may?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Desert:
HOWZIT BRAH!!!
Rehday fo some fotball.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Les Stroud:
I am angry becuz my daddy didn’t pay attention to me. Daddy wasn’t there to take me to the fair and change my underwear. I hate the world becuz my daddy wasn’t there. word.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I just can’t get worked up over the 4th DT and the great addition of Ashley Lelie. Who cares it’s more to get the HC to shut his pie hole.
These guy’s may end up playing some important minutes but I doubt it. I would rather have kept the young guy’s and developed them. Joseph was OK but I wasn’t depending on him at all. But it is what it is
Whine Whine whine…..whine…whine.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Desert the OTs are awful…..Kwame as your best pass blocker? Joke
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm
I hate the fair and my dad was always around in my life so try again lackey
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
We just flat out suck, our whole O line sucks, our receivers suck, our coach sucks, Al Davis sucks, we can’t even bring in decent tallent yo. I wonders why I am even a Raiders fan..
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:56 pm
This has been fun and all but its P U R P L E time………….Hey MR can you for once be a man and…………..ah what am I asking a coward to be a man for? Anyways……….. Raiders 24 Broncos 13
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Al Davis= King of the World
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:57 pm
You are a troll, that why you’re here
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I just love the bong, I love to suck the bong, for some reason I will nevers be able to put the P U R P L E down yo. Drugs be rullin my life. I am a juvenile who thinks it cool to smoke weed, and I will never amount to anything with THC in my system, so you can just suck it all you h8ters.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Purple Urkel
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I have to echo the concern of cutting Joseph. Even if we are running more 3-4, this is the one guy who was mentioned as being consistent against the run if nothing else. Warren consistently got pushed 5 yards off the ball when doubled, and I thought was more suited to be Kelly’s backup as the 3 technique. Sands and Joseph played the NT position better, so I do hope we have a backup to Sands lined up.
Jay Richardson is not at DT.
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:58 pm
brien?
September 2nd, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Troll
You honestly can find anything more productive to do????
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:00 pm
HOPING PART 3:
SPECIAL TEAMS…Lechler makes leads NFL in punting and makes the Pro Bowl…Jano becomes Raiders all-time leading scorer and makes kicks in the clutch…Higgins holds on to the ball and helps us forget Carr…DMC is allowed to return kickoffs every now and then and takes a couple of kicks to the house!
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:00 pm
What Jim?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
You bringing hennessy brien?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
No Oline additions yet …
Oline is better than you think folks.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Vegas Raider–no, I’ve never been to the Hilton theater…sounds like a cool place…I’m assuming that they show several games there, and it isn’t just Raider football being televised. The Speedway bar used to be called Rookies, but they changed the name this summer. I’m not sure if it’s still a Raider bar.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
You know it Jim, I gots to get my drink on to. You know me holmes, whats bout you?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
IMO, we lack the edge pass-rushers to succesfully run the 3-4 on a consistent basis. Maybe throw it in here and there to switch things up, but our best edge rushers (Howard or Morrison) are also our best cover LB’s. So who does that leave to rush the edge, Sam Williams, Ricky Brown? Not quite Merriman or LT
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Hey brien,..has dave sent tto any KISS pics from Konocti?…dude that was a party,…holy shhhiiit….dave wore his belitnikoff jersey to it,…man that gig was off the hook!!!
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
BHP,
You were right about Henderson on the other 60 plays. He looks like he is going to be a player. Looked bad on those 5 or 6 plays I was initially talked about. But when I rewatched the game with an emphasis on his and Joseph’s play, I was really impressed.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
well brien since you asked,..might finally not drink 25 beers at the tailgate,..lookin to do cocktails,.maybe jack and cokes,…hows dat sound bro?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
You’d think they would have practiced a 3-4 in the pre-season if they had any plans to use it.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
No Jim, no pics yet holmes. Yeah, party off the hook homey. Dave wore his Jersey? No way, thats off the chain yo. KISS is old, but they still rock yo.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Desert: They have every game on (although only one on audio), theather seating and plenty of seats, 2 dollar beers, and a satellite un-crowded sports betting window. Throw in some Miller lite girls and it is pretty happening. Usually a few hundred people every week, but the place is so big it does not seem crowded. Highly recommmended
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm
you`d think they would use the 3-4 in napa all damn summer to get ready for san diego,..san diego goes to town on out o-line with that 3-4,..we cant stop it.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm
brien I just sent to a pic from the concert to your cell
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Jim:
Why not? Keeps drinkin da 25 beers bro, you should be drinkin round 30 like I do, then I can’t walk and I puke my guts out, then act like a fool at the game. Thats why it’s so fun bro. I als drink Jacks and cokes too, the more alcohol the better. Not fun if you can’t walk or talk and puke. lol. Dat sounds aight bro.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
808–no more da kine? LOL…man, I sure miss Waipahu…gotta recognize those Little Leaguers from Waipahu…LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES CHAMPS!!!
*****
I’m out for now Nation…keep the faith…
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
We will need to sign a DT that is very familiar with this system considering that he will only have a few days to get up to speed.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm
I don’t too much care about Joseph. The guy is a first round bust. Never had high hopes for him.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm
watchit brien,..dave and I are old too…you young punk!!!
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Way to go out on a limb OakGlenn.
Oakglenn Says:
September 2nd, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Another one bites the dust. How Lelie helps I don’t know but I guess we can use all the help at receiver we can get.
I hate to say Monday nite is a “must win” game so early in a season, but Monday nite is a “must win” game for the Raiders.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
brien you been pukin up my chicken wings?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
nah man, never to old to party. I am doing right now on a Tuesday afternoon. Life is one big party yo. Get mad drunk and go to the game, thats the way to do it.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Check out this dirty trick in a football game. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSnew1PIYqk&feature=related
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Absolute “must-win”
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
those wings are da bomb, I gots the munchies now for those wings.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
brien, me and the ball and chain headin to hawaii in january,..for 4 months!!!!…kanaapali,..can you say,..maui wowie??????????
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:10 pm
No prob’ jhill, if he continues to work and listen to Cable he could do what Tommy Kelly has done. He is very athletic. I remember talking to coach Milliard about Tommy some 3 years ago and he predicted this for Tommy. Mario is as athletic an OT as you’ll ever see he just has to want it.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
brien Im goin all out on the wings monday,..new marinade,…adding tequila to it,…oh man its gonna rock…nope never too old,…we had the best tree at the KISS gig,..think Gene Simmons got a contact high from it,…hit paul with his fire breath…
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:12 pm
What kind of name is Ashley anyway for a guy?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
BHP,
We havent seen a damn thing from “Tommy”, in entire his career.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
gotta run brien,..catch ya soon,..get that pic on your phone yet?…sent it 30 minutes ago….dont have youre email,.text it to me bro,..cya.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I’m assuming we pick up another DT soon? That’s insane if we are going to go with three for more than one game. Hell, even one game.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Just gots it Jim, its cool , good pic cuz.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:16 pm
BHP says
“Mario is as athletic an OT as you’ll ever see he just has to want it.”
That’s sooooo very encouraging. Doesn’t seem like Terdell Sands wants it either. Instead of strictly drafting on 40 speeds and Bench Press, you might want to check out a players motivation as well, Mr Davis.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Just another example of the communication between Davis and Kiffin, they do talk alot after all. Kiffin wants roster turnover and thats exactly what Davis is giving him. When you see my troll in here it will be obvious because he hates to hear the truth. Jospeh never quite panned out in Kiffins system.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
KK you haven’t seen a single thing because you wouldn’t know if you did. That kid T Kelly was playing at a pro-bowl level before he got hurt. Ask any coach that watches film and knows what he’s looking at.
I can’t help what you disagree with the facts are the facts and he was indeed dominating when he was playing. Ask any pro.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO ANTAJ HAWTHORNE?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:19 pm
The same thing that happened to Quentin Moses
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
So what kiffin says Sands will never be an every down player, sounds like positive feedback to me if Sands turns it around. I bet Sands is on the field when its 4th and one.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Vegas Raider,
thanks for the thought. I found them online on a couple of online sports books. I imagine they are all close.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Ashley f&$kin suck, I don’t know why the Raiders pick him up. Joe Horn is way better and he could have been pluged in right away.
Chaz #81 is way better than Ashley, but experience was needed… I see our #1 pick next year will be the best wr out of college
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Hawthorne liked the ganja too much.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
BHP,
Lol. Tommy Kelly, Pro-bowl? when? Don’t be ridiculous, an 8 quater pro-bowler?
Tommy Kelly is all potential, still, after what 5 years in the league?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
So do I.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
People can say what they want about Mr. Davis, but the fact is that once you become a REAL Raider, it’s for life! Al reminds me of Radio Raheem, “If I love you, I love you, If i hate you…..”
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Sith Lord Davis Says:
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Just another example of the communication between Davis and Kiffin, they do talk alot after all. Kiffin wants roster turnover and thats exactly what Davis is giving him. When you see my troll in here it will be obvious because he hates to hear the truth. Jospeh never quite panned out in Kiffins system.
I thought it was Ryans system not Kiffins.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Bill B. or Mike S. would have mortgaged the franchise for Kelly if he had hit the open market.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:23 pm
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Ryan never talks about a system fit, this train is all Kiffins.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
:-O
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Curious ..anybody knows how S.Ellis is fairing down in NO.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Vegas and Desert
Respect? That has nothing to do with the line.
Once the line is created ONE thing moves it - BETTING. The idea is to get an even number of bets on both sides so the casino doesn’t lose big. At 1.5 people were obviously betting up Denver so to try to balance the betting the casinos had to offer more points to the Raiders.
This team is like 2 of the last 20 against Denver. Most bettors are not Raider bloggers who think the team is Super Bowl bound every season. Given that most of their games are decided by 3 points or less, giving the Raiders 3.5 will drive betting. That’s all it is about.
87 - Boroque - Al is calling the shots. If you read the post, Jerry says Al didn’t fly anywhere.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
And this is my problem with Kiffin, I sense he is very impatient with young talent. You can’t coah in this league that way. These are careers not a 4 year college stint. It takes kids sometimes 3 years before they really start to become whatever they’re going to be. If you’re cnstntly cutting them before they get there you’ll never develope anyone.
Tmmy Kelly, Nnamdi Aso, Ron Curry and on and on wuld never make it under that kind of leadership.
This is not USC where you look down the practice field and get another HB. Their roster are 100 deep this one is 53 and it’s extremel tough to catch up to speed at this level. He would’ve cut Johnny Unitas.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Ryan sould grow some balls!!!
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Who hired Land Kiffin, Nancy Gay?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Josh Shaw just signed with the Donkeys.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Davis won’t let Kiffin run wild with it but they are in the hen house together.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Jason Jones says, Big Al made the trip to D.C., to attend Gene Upshaw’s memorial.
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Lane Kiffin’s never been a Head Coach before on any level. Mr Davis, thought he could hold his own in the locker room. Or was that Adam Shiefer’s fault?
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Kiffin ain’t the problem. Norv Turner wins with talent in S.D. Who is responsible for getting the talent? That would be Uncle Al. Anyone curious why Al did not go to the Upshaw memorial? A guess is that he is not well enough……
September 2nd, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Cutting Joseph is not the end of the deal. It doesn’t mean the WR’s are safe. If Lechler kicks Wednesday then Pulkalak gets cut from the practice squad and someone (likely a WR) goes on it. Lawson then has an open spot.
The team can be targeting a DT and LB Thomas could go to IR or Williams gets cut or Tui even goes to the practice squad (not like he’s going t