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Walker is indeed hamstrung

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 at 2:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Coach Lane Kiffin confirmed following a long practice session Wednesday that Javon Walker was limited with a hamstring pull.

Walker and Kalimba Edwards (groin) the only players who were limited.

Teams are required to list whether players practiced or were limited in terms of participation and give the nature of the injury, but don’t have to disclose any other details.

Walker worked out in front of media members Sunday before practice and wasn’t named by Kiffin that day as being injured. Walker spoke to the media after practice, was walking without a limp and with neither leg wrapped, and didn’t mention an injury.

Kiffin said Walker would be “questionable” if it were a game day, giving credence to Adam Schefter’s NFL Network report which reported his condition as such. Kiffin also said Walker fully expects to play against Denver.

Walker was not in the locker room during media availability.

The Raiders hope to get Ashley Lelie up to speed and ready to play if Walker can’t go. Lelie has some familiarity with the offensive system since the Raiders run a similar system to Denver and because Lelie played for Greg Knapp for a year in Atlanta.

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308 Responses to “Walker is indeed hamstrung”

  1. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    primero

  2. Quagmire'd Says:

    WTF!

  3. R8RPAVER Says:

    ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL i cant wait for monday night

  4. daniel Says:

    dont worry he will have more than 100 yds receiving come monday night!!! in the nfl players play great against former teams especially when they werent treated nicely

  5. SacRaider Says:

    Well, he can’t be much slower..

  6. kevn Says:

    Looks like Schefter was right after all. Ya gotta respect that man’s blackberry.

  7. NoLuv4Hoes Says:

    maybe they will put in chaz if walker can’t play.

  8. Dakota Says:

    Cut him.

  9. RaiderTay Says:

    There is always some drama around that dude. Then again who cares as long as he shows up when the lights go on.

  10. Quagmire'd Says:

    He better ball after talkin’ all that smack about playin’ them twice a year.

  11. BART Bridge Balla Says:

    This is a ploy to lull the Broncos into thinking we are starting Lelie, if Walker wasn’t hurt yesterday after practice, how did he injure himself, such that Schefter would know about it?

  12. Rip Torn Says:

    what happened to that cute MR guy??

  13. Brien (the only) Says:

    Walker is playing on Monday people come on

  14. RaiderTay Says:

    Quagmire’d,

    You know whats even better than having Tues off is that the wife and kids dont. I can really chill all day. Its almost too perfect.

  15. Brien (the only) Says:

    Walker wouldnt miss this game for the crack in Vegas…………oops my bad

  16. Brien (the only) Says:

    Tay- I think this will be one of the better week 1 transitions ever for you my friend!!!

  17. RaiderTay Says:

    lol…low blow Brien.

  18. Raidermvp Says:

    All will be well! If you haven’t noticed, like other playmakers on other teams, Walker doesn’t like to practice. As long as he steps up on game day is all that matters. Fans tend to forget he is coming off a knee injury, which takes time and getting knock out in Vegas. Kiffin being tough on them now will pay off down the road. “Walker will do great things!” People seem to forget that our receivers go up against one of the top 3 secondaries in the NFL every day. Our receivers won’t have to go up against secondaries as good as the Raiders every game. Our pass defense is that good. Now, if we can get solid against the run.

  19. raiderchris Says:

    ITS LIKE A DAILY GRIND WITH THIS GUY JUST TO GET HIM ON THE FIELD…IM OVER IT, START CHAZ AND WAKTINS…AT LEAST THEY KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT AND PLAY THEIR ASSES OFF.

  20. Brien (the only) Says:

    Come on I know what Walker was doing in Vegas…….anyone with a brain did

  21. Brien (the only) Says:

    post 18.exactly……we seen too many tuesday through saturday players…….i need sunday players

  22. Andrews Mom Says:

    Sounds like Al&Kiff are exercising their sandbagging skills.
    Those two sure like to play games with the media.

  23. SacRaider Says:

    We should just start 3 TEs and run on every play.. Passing is overrated..

  24. RaiderTay Says:

    Old school Raider fans kill me. My father in law just called me and told me to bring some batteries.

  25. Brien (the only) Says:

    aint it great the football gods have smiled on us? we start off with two trash qbs, two trash dlines, two rookie LTs and no JARED ALLEN!!!

  26. Dakota Says:

    Brien,

    Cutler is a trash QB? Lol….okay.

  27. Brien (the only) Says:

    Tay LMAO that is too funny

  28. DerekM Says:

    This season is shaping up to be one crisis after another. The receiver situation is almost laughable. Glenn Dickey just posted an interesting article about Walker and Lelie. He says that Lelie is unreliable running his routes, especially the shorter timing-based patterns. Walker seems to plagued with all kinds of issues. Poor Jamarcus, saddled with this bunch.

  29. Scottish Raider Says:

    I think the heroes on Sunday will be Michael Bush, Zach Miller and……Stanford Routt.

    Bush, because Fargas will soften them, McFadden will tire them and then Bush will punish them.

    Miller, because he just knows where to find the hole and because JR just knows where to find Miller.

    Routt, because Cutler will try and live up to all the CNNSI-hype and take on the Raiders secondary - except that our CBs are better than their WRs - so he will play on the nickel. Routt is ready.

    Plus at least two Burgess sacks, one Huff interception and JLH will break one for 50 yards.

    Hopefully.

  30. Sicky Williams Says:

    What a f’n joke! Al Davis is an idiot for signing Walker in the first place. And, he is an even bigger idiot for not bailing when Walker offered to retire. This franchise will not do anything as long as this old bafoon is running the show. I guess I should prepare myself for another letdown on Monday Night.

  31. Brien (the only) Says:

    Oh my god I jumped for joy when Denver selected Cutler

  32. Brien (the only) Says:

    DerekM………..Glenn Dickey is the biggest Raider hater ever and has never presented any damn thing in the sports world…….you gonna take his word……he is the same guy who thought Garcia was HOF caliber QB

  33. DerekM Says:

    Any word on if the game will be televised Monday night?

  34. RaiderTay Says:

    It will be nice to eventually get some stud WRs in the draft. Somebody that JRuss can grow with.

  35. Brien (the only) Says:

    Scottish I like the post but Burgess I doubt even has one sack…….he is a slow starter

  36. Brien (the only) Says:

    DEREK dont worry it will be

  37. angryhendrick Says:

    This guy can’t even make it on week #1? What a p()ssy.

  38. Brien (the only) Says:

    Tay- Schilens may be one of them and eventhough he didnt play alot the staff is high on shields

  39. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Derek M:

    Should be on ESPN. They cover Monday night football now.

  40. TD Taylor Says:

    This season has the smell of 2006.

  41. La Milicia Negra Says:

    BBB..

    regarding post 11, I believe you are right, that was my initial thought too =)

  42. Dakota Says:

    Bi-partisanship

    There are less than three months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States.

    The person elected will be president of ‘all’ Americans, not just Democrats or the Republicans.

    It’s time that we all come together, Democrats and Republicans alike; in a bipartisan effort for America.

    a. If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights on during the day.

    b. If you support Barack Obama, please drive with your headlights off at night.

    Together, we can make it happen!

  43. Brien (the only) Says:

    TD Taylor? Come on 2006 was……..shhhhhit that wasnt even a football team……clueless coaches and clueless players made up 2006………..2008 i like to think we are far better than them

  44. Brien (the only) Says:

    post 42 is hilarious

  45. Ike in Idaho Says:

    Monday night’s starting receivers: Curry, Higgins, Schilens. This could be interesting.

  46. Brien (the only) Says:

    John Engelberger vs Kwame Harris…………..which 49er will win the battle?

  47. Brien (the only) Says:

    Ike- Walker will play

  48. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota Post 42, LMFAO

  49. 408RAIDER Says:

    ufckin walker blew his vag out already?

    WTF Oh well Chaz is gonna get his chance!!

    donkeys are still going down on monday

    Raiders 17 donkeys 9

  50. BART Bridge Balla Says:

    Walker is playing Monday. This whole things reeks of a smokescreen, remember the Quarterback shuffle that Kiffin was orchestrating at the start of last season. Kiffin is just one of those coaches, like Belicheck, that enjoys a little gamesmanship in every aspect of the sport.

  51. Scottish Raider Says:

    We don’t need WRs on Monday. Denver’s strength is (like ours) against the pass and their weakness (like ours) is against the run.

    Our offense is all about Fargas, Griffith, McFadden, Bush and Miler. The WRs will just be required to tie up Champ and Dre. Monday is not going to be pretty - just a war of attrition.

    Its trench war, baby.

  52. Brien (the only) Says:

    408- Walker is playing man……dont buy into this man

  53. The NEWS Says:

    I hope Walker will be fine for Monday. This guy better come through for us!

    Even without him, I’m confident that we’ll beat the Donkeys on Monday.

    Pound the rock, then pound it some more. Then pound it again. We have 3 horses - take it to’em Kiff!!!

  54. Brien (the only) Says:

    Scottish I agree with you but their run defense is worse than ours……..they brought a young trash version of the warren sapp to play NT……hahaha dewayne robertson

  55. Brien (the only) Says:

    The safety combo of denver= toast material….fast guys who still get it handed to them

  56. 408RAIDER Says:

    Brien hope so he was supposed to ball out!

  57. Brien (the only) Says:

    Brien<———-nowhere near worried about these first two games…….when Buffalo comes up man then the issues of the oline will be obvious

  58. Mario Says:

    Hey Dakota,

    Left you a little something on the league message board.

    “THIS CHICK IS TOAST!”- Peter Venkman

  59. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota..

    “a. If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights on during the day.”

    LOL, thats law here! has been for nearly 10 years =)

  60. Raider Fanman Says:

    Speaking of Donkeys…..anyone hear this one

    The pastor entered his donkey in a race and it won. The pastor was so pleased with the donkey that he entered in another race and it won again. The local paper read: PASTOR’S ASS OUT FRONT.

    The Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he ordered the pastor not to enter the donkey in any more races. The next day the local paper headline read: BISHOP SCRATCHES THE PASTOR’S ASS.

    This was too much for the Bishop, so he ordered the pastor to get rid of the donkey. The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a nearby convent. The local paper, hearing of the news, posted the following headline: NUN HAS THE BEST ASS IN TOWN

    The Bishop fainted. He informed the nun that she would have to get rid of the donkey so she sold it to a farmer for $10. The next day the headlines read: NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10.

    This was too much for the Bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the donkey and lead it to the high plains where it could run free. The next day the headlines read : NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE.
    Alas… The Bishop was buried the next day.

  61. Evil T Says:

    Walker is a freakin puss. First, he gets his ass kicked by two dudes that weigh a combined 180 lbs. Chad Johnson or T. O. would have whipped those 2 little bitches. Second, he has coasted thru camp, had little muscle tweaks, and has not been a leader. Third, he has done absolutley nothing to show his old form. I say we cut his ass as soon. There has got to be someone younger, more hungry, and as athletic as him out there. I love our Black and Silver, but this is ridiculous. What do you think Jack Tatum and George Atkinson think of this guy. I guarentee they think he is a premadonna

  62. Scottish Raider Says:

    We will miss Mr Pain O’Neal - because he was just every LBs nightmare but, I can’t see the Broncos holding our RBs through 4 quarters. Fargas will get the early carries and will establish the pattern. McFadden will up the ante and really stretch and tire the defense. Bush will arrive in Q3 and they won’t have the energy left to contain him.

    I would like to see our WRs consistently running outs and flys - simply to spread the field and to keep their CBs near the touchlines. That would leave more room in the middle for Miller, Griffith, McFadden and Bush. Lelie has the speed to force Bailey outside, it doesn’t matter if he never has to make a catch.

  63. Brien (the only) Says:

    has anyone see the foxsports.com shhhhhhit about us only winning 3 games this year? how do these fux get these jobs?

  64. dick v Says:

    408- walker blew out his Vag already: classic.

    He don’t like to pracice he will be ready.

  65. Brien (the only) Says:

    hahahaha they got SF winning the division of my god………..it gets funnier every year

  66. El Dirty Says:

    I had to bench walker on ym fantasy team :( I thought he was going to break some ankles

  67. Brien (the only) Says:

    fantasy football=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  68. Andrews Mom Says:

    We all think Kiff will use Fargas,McDaddy and Bush.
    However last year Kiff let one back carry the load each game.

    Lamont got all the carries untill he broke, then fargas, then Rhodes.

    For some reason Kiff didnt utilize two backs in his game plan.

  69. Raider Fanman Says:

    This one’s an older one that I’m sure most of you have heard, but it’s more befitting. The Donkeys will ride in laughing and leave crying….

    A man walks into a bar and sits down and orders a drink.

    He then notices a Jar that is full of money. The man asks the bartender what the jar is for. The bartender then says that he has a donkey in the back room and if anyone can make him him laugh they win the money. If not they owe me 100 dollars.

    The man say I can do it!

    So he goes into the back room and about 5 minutes later the bartender hears the donkey laughing out loud. The man walks out and takes the money from the jar, thanks the bartender, and leaves.

    About a month later the man comes back into the bar and there is a new jar of money. The man asks the bartender what the new jar of money is for.

    The bartender looks at the man and says if you can make the donkey cry the money is yours, if not you owe me 100 dollars. The man says ok I’ll do it!

    He walks into the back room and about 2 minutes has goes by when the bartender hears the donkey crying. The man walks out and grabs the money out of the jar, but before the man leaves the bartender asks, “How did you make the donkey laugh?”

    The man looks at the bartender and says, “Well the first time I told the donkey that I had a bigger d.i.c.k then he did”.

    “How did you make him cry?” ask the bartender?

    Well I showed him.

  70. DarthPirate Says:

    Uh, so this is a non story. I’m as negative as the next guy about this team, but damn, if he’s fully expecting to play against Dungver, who cares?

  71. Brien (the only) Says:

    A.M> I think he knows he is gonna have to do that for the first part of the season

  72. Brien (the only) Says:

    Kiffin overstands he gotta run 35-40 times and pass 20-25 times a game MAX or we are toast

  73. El Dirty Says:

    C’mon Brien it’s fun

  74. Dakota Says:

    Mario,

    Pooper bowl? That sounds personal…

  75. Brien (the only) Says:

    El Dirty……..i wont ever be in your league with all of the “Dirty” play you would be involved in

  76. El Dirty Says:

    How did you know!??? lol That’s cool,You just wont be able to see the legend in action.

  77. Dakota Says:

    Funny sheet:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9rihV1mcB4&feature=user

  78. Mario Says:

    Dakota. It’s gross, and your team lives there…

  79. Kidseven Says:

    Darth,

    We all care, I guess. Why else are we reading a Raiders blog on a Wednesday afternoon. That’s Jerry’s job, to give us even non-stories. Better than the alternative.

  80. La Milicia Negra Says:

    dakota..

    did you see post 59?

  81. Brien (the only) Says:

    well you can read foxsports.com on how we will be 3-13 picking in the top 5 again

  82. 808Raidah Says:

    Brien:

    We’ll get 3 wins in the division and another 3 or 4 wins outside the division…I say 7 win season…better than last year, but still a losing season.

  83. La Milicia Negra Says:

    808..

    not far from my predictions..

  84. Dakota Says:

    LMN,

    I did see that post…I am sorry that your government is so oppressive.

  85. 408RAIDER Says:

    sup dirty

    How bout a flick?

  86. moose Says:

    does anyone know why jmarcus,dosent ever have any plays on his wrist…is his play-book still that limited?

  87. Mike Hunt Says:

    ITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  88. Mike Hawk Says:

    I am HUGE in Germany

  89. Brien (the only) Says:

    808 i dont see it like that and im quite critical of this team……..i’m saying 4-2 at least in the division and 5-6 wins outside the division……bills,saints,jets,ravens,panthers,falcons,dolphins,pats,texans,and bucs

    gotta look at the schedule buddy…….3 division games before the bye make you battle tested early in the year and then a 3 straight game afc wqest block later on the season favors us big time……..just you watch…..if healthy the Raiders will win this divsion with a 9-7 or 10-6 record. SD, Den,KC got huger issues than we do trust that

  90. Milehigh_7 Says:

    Dear Silver and Bleak,

    Thank you so much for dumpster diving and pulling out the Bronco manure Walker and Lelie. It is really unfortunate that Walker will be unable to carry his own jock strap Monday night.

    Enjoy a season that smells worse than Al Davis’ Depends.

  91. Mike Hawk Says:

    Milehigh_7 -

    We pay you back with practice squad scrub Josh Shaw

    B*tch

  92. Mike Hawk Says:

    maybe former Donkey Gerard Warren will sack weak a$$ Cutler, AGAIN!

    B*tch

  93. El Dirty Says:

    The mods aren’t letting me

  94. El Dirty Says:

    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1222/896416747_737644a55a.jpg?v=0

  95. Milehigh_7 Says:

    You are so right about Warren. I am still pi$$ed we let him go. We could actually use a DT that can play and Warren is indeed a stud.

  96. Brien (the only) Says:

    Bills, Saints and Texans are the only ones that make me cautious outside of division…….we get pats late in the season which will help………no other teams makes me scared

  97. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Dakota..

    weirdly enough it saves lives =)

    but because we had that law, the rest of the EU follows, and because of that, all new cars made after 2000 turns light on when you start the car =)

    its a bi1ch when you drive outside EU, because most places its illegal to have you light turned on in daylight =) But gladly the EU cover bigger distances than we want driving to, so planes and rental cars solves that problem.. but its a funny development.. in 10 years time its a national law for you too, mark my words =)

  98. El Dirty Says:

    http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/pamelaandersonboobs.jpg

  99. Mike Hawk Says:

    wow, an accountable Donkey’s fan. You must be the only one.

  100. Brien (the only) Says:

    MileLow_7……what the hell is oyur trash Dline gonna do?

  101. Milehigh_7 Says:

    “Bills, Saints and Texans are the only ones that make me cautious outside of division…….we get pats late in the season which will help………no other teams makes me scared”

    HA HA HA you faiders make me laugh. The only competition you will be in this year is with the Chefs for doormat.

  102. Brien (the only) Says:

    MileLow_7 and who are your safeties? McCree is too funny hahahahahahahahaha……….linebackers are besides DJ Williams(bay area native)?

  103. 408RAIDER Says:

    dirty the first 1 rocked!

    I posted 1 of me & my princes on the
    Lelie added, Joseph cut thread…

  104. CorpRaiderNYC Says:

    Okayyyyyy, so how did shefter get access to that information while our local guys were evidently in the dark..

    This guy is a jacka$$- ~$50M contract and he may miss the first game?!?! This in addition to that ridiculous offseason of his? Say what you will but paying a guy that kind of money instanty raises the bar, in my view. This signing is looking more and more like an “F” grade… Seemingly on par with how our GM has been grading out in the more recent to intermediate past.

    Apologies if this was already addressed; I haven’t read the previous comments.

  105. Thec Says:

    No way possible the NATION goes 3-13…..

  106. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Well, I guess ol’ Sch1tfer brains, may indeed have a mole inside the Island, after all.

  107. Milehigh_7 Says:

    The Denver D-Line is our one weak spot. We will just see. I don’t think we can pressure anyone or stop runs up the gut. If we can’t do that we are dead. However, we will still beat you all. :D

  108. Brien (the only) Says:

    Faiders? I’ll fade with a winning record over you all time…….I’ll also fade with winning legit super bowls unlike Pat Bowlen

  109. Thec Says:

    No way the NATION lose to denver on monday

    NATION 34 - denver 6

  110. Brien (the only) Says:

    I’ll also fade with a winning record vs your big MR Ed cloned Qb John Elway

  111. Brien (the only) Says:

    Fade this= 34-20 Raiders beat you………Cutler didnt have his insulin shot that day?

  112. dick v Says:

    Cutler will throw a minimum of two picks monday night. The Raiders averaged 187 yrds vs the Bronco’s in the run game last year. Add Dmac to that mix and It is clear what the outcome is going to be.

  113. 408RAIDER Says:

    yo donkey dude

    STFU or well go take over your gay a$s donkey blog!

  114. Brien (the only) Says:

    Fade this= The caveman was your best QB since Elway and you did him over for a drunk diabetic………how convenient

  115. 909raiderlifer Says:

    El Dirty…#98..

    Keep those away from, sharp objects. Or she will jet all the way back to Cananda…

  116. Brien (the only) Says:

    Notice we never go to the cowtown papers of Denver’s blogs? Yeah why don’t you do the same or are they just not as active in the Columbine city?

  117. Milehigh_7 Says:

    “legit”????!!! A Raider even saying the word? You all invented cheating. Do you not remember your Lester the molester? Tell Al to park his walker and pay Shanny the 200k he still owes.

  118. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408..

    yeah I noticed the tatt, btw.. you look like a mean fella =)

  119. Brien (the only) Says:

    So did the NFL fine the Raiders for cheating or you guys? You got hit twice this decade mule boy

  120. Andrews Mom Says:

    Can you give us one example of Raiders cheating?

  121. LosT Says:

    I HOPE RUSSELL READ THIS…

    http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_10371919

  122. Brien (the only) Says:

    Cutler would rather be stuck at a Bar Tavern in Boulder with college co-eds than travel to oakland and get his ass beat on the field

  123. RaiderMight Says:

    I thought we had it bad when we lost O’Neal:
    ——————————
    BENGALS LOSE STARTING FULLBACK
    Bengals fullback Jeremi Johnson has been placed on injured reserve, due to a knee injury he suffered at practice on Monday.

    As a result, Dan Coats (a converted tight end) will start Sunday’s game at fullback. Against the Ravens and Ray Lewis.

    Gulp.

    Coats was running with the ones while Johnson was on the PUP list during camp, due to an excessive accumulation of fat in his ass.
    ——————————

    A converted TE playing the starting role of FB. Can you guys imagine Miller or Madsen having to play FB?

    profootballtalk.com/2008/09/03/bengals-lose-starting-fullback/

  124. Brien (the only) Says:

    A.M> he can’t he just reads and looks at ESPN for his sports views

  125. Andrews Mom Says:

    Hey burro breath, why do the burro fans call Cutler Putzhead?

  126. Brien (the only) Says:

    Can you imagine the Broncos winning a legit NFL trophy?

  127. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN
    Na I’m a loving father. Die hard Raider fan the ink was a gift to my self after we lost the SB.. It totally helped my get over it..

    my tuff guy days were in high school now Im just a blog dork.. :P

  128. Brien (the only) Says:

    A.M. because he is just a good ole boy redneck qb without much of a brain

  129. Milehigh_7 Says:

    Sorry I just wanted to pop in and wish you all good luck. Are they going to let you all out of county to watch or do you have to watch in the community room?

    I will come back on Tuesday and admit I am as retarded as Fargas if we lose.

  130. Brien (the only) Says:

    408- i was already down in the dumps before the super bowl……..june 3rd 2001 killed my spirit

  131. Brien (the only) Says:

    yawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn will they let you high school shooters be let of detention to watch the game?

  132. Thec Says:

    whats funny about the dunkoes is you guys take our left overs like shaw and try to get info from him on what we re going to do to you….. dont you find it odd donkey fan that your coach the rat face has to reach for such straws… I know why he is scared of the RB’s he will have to face.

    You guys got torched by mmclown last year in a 34-20 drubbing, with the weopons we have we should hang 30 minimum on you guys.

    also you guys will be starting tools 2 rookie tools to be exact 1 at left tackle….

    When cutlark throws 4 picks tommorrow i wont be like the UCLA game. You guys are going to bench cutlark for who? Oh i forgot he is your franchise. anyway the donkoes go down we run for 250 yards min on our way to a 34 - 6 romp

  133. Brien (the only) Says:

    MileLow- i cant wait to visit that cowtown again……..those chicks just love one night extravaganzas

  134. dick v Says:

    who the hell is Nate Webster? Boss Bailey was a joke in Detroit. Dwayne Robertson was a bust in NY and he is the best dt on the team. Dumervil is small. Jarvis Moss and Marcus Thomas are still celebrating the Gators 06 national championship game with coke and weed. Champ is good. Dre bly will get fooled by a double move every time.
    Where is Brandon Marshall. Royal is a rookie. Scehffler is solid. Nobody is worried about the most talented back field in Mike Shanhan’s coaching tenure in denver lead by a pair of undrafted fa rb: young and hall.
    Shananigans can’t just plug rb behind : Nalen, lepsis, carisle foster and who ever else was up front in the hey day. Now he has an old center, Ryan Harris at rt and ryan clady at lt. Its over

  135. Dakota Says:

    Post 131:

    Brien that was bad taste man. That was a very tragic day in the history of the U.S. and to make light of it is just stupid and insensitive. You are becoming the moron idiot most of us on this blog think you are…

  136. Brien (the only) Says:

    Clady=hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  137. Marcus Allen McFadden Says:

    Can we get rid of Ashley Lelie? What makes us think he’ll be any good? I’ll eat my words if he plays well but I don’t think he’s going to.

  138. La Milicia Negra Says:

    408..

    yeah looks has nothing to do with how a person are..

    I could imagine you just a big bear =)

  139. Brien (the only) Says:

    Dakota……..I never cared others thought about me…………you make the jail joke and that’s what you get……do you know what the phuck happens in jail man? that is a death right there in itself……please spare me the history of US bullshhhhhhhit

  140. Brien (the only) Says:

    post 137- yeah man Lelie doesnt inspire me too much

  141. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    From the Denver Post:
    Broncos coach Mike Shanahan ended his weekly news conference Wednesday by admittedly firing up his personal rivalry with Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis.

    Nearly 20 years after Davis fired Shanahan as the Raiders’ head coach, a reporter asked Shanahan if he still harbors bad feelings against Davis and the Raiders, or if time has dissolved his anger about being let go four games into the 1989 season or Davis in general.

    “No, it doesn’t dissipate at all,” Shanahan said with a stern stare.

    The reporter replied: “So feelings are still the same today as they were the day you became the coach here and first played them?”

    “I said it doesn’t dissipate at all — that’s what that means,” Shanahan said.

    “Thank you,” the reporter said after getting a far better response than he expected.

  142. Brien (The Only) Says:

    I was in jail man, and shhhhiitttt happens, especially at night. I was a little boyfriend of this dude that hit it everynight. It was death. Thats why I live in the bay area, so I can be close to those who love each other.

  143. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    SHANARAT SUCKS!

  144. Thec Says:

    cutlark 4 picks, 3 sacks 7 hurries. cutlark running for his F@CKing life. I can wait to see he head smash and bounce off the ground….. he is going to need several insulin shots after the concussion he receives.

  145. Brien (the real one) Says:

    yawwwwwwwwnnnnnn to post 142……..keep trying young man

  146. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Whats up Brien LMN Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Dakota

    RRRAAAAIIIIIDDDEERRRSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  147. Milehigh_7 Says:

    It is so much fun laughing at you all! One thing you can count on is all faiders have the same flawed personality.

    You all look so silly with your little foil hats! Remember to bring your tissue cause you will be crying your makeup off by the 3rd quarter.

  148. Lowdown in Beijing Says:

    Misignation of Euros may be in order LMN.

    Nanny state much?

    Maybe we need a law that enforces all team are equally watched so that no fan is “offended”.

    Nice.

    Raiders 6 Broncos 26

    Just haven’t seen anything that convinces me otherwise.

    Go Raiders.

  149. El Dirty Says:

    Right on 408

    You could have told me it towards the end lol.

  150. Brien (the real one) Says:

    Silvernblack666= is on scholarship

  151. Brien (The Only) Says:

    Lowdown in Beijing you are a jerk off. How can you be a Raider fan when you pick them to lose.

  152. Brien (the real one) Says:

    OOOOOOH MileLow_7 that’s the way to tell us off yeah man wooooooooo foil hats that hurt

  153. Brien (the real one) Says:

    post 151=imposter

  154. SilverNblack666 Says:

    milehigh-pile

    How can you even come in here and talk smack with your broken down pathetic team that is so injured right now.

  155. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    SilverNblack666,
    What’s up. About to call it a night. But Monday Night, my party starts at 10:15 EST. Kicking some donkey ass.

  156. El Dirty Says:

    909

    God bless her little heart

  157. Brien (the real one) Says:

    Darrell Jackson= pro bowl player……..Eddie Royal will kill Nnamdi…….oh my god Brandon Stokley as well…..My god Cutler will have a field day

  158. Brien (the real one) Says:

    my god daniel graham is the next tony gonzalez

  159. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Whats up Thec El Dirty and 408

    Its time for all Raider fans to unite and beat the donkey’s. better yet look at teh bronc-hoe fans coming out of the woodwork, the good news is that come Tuesday we wont be seeing those inbreed losers for quite a while!!!!

  160. Brien (the real one) Says:

    exla- my party starts tomorrow……..NFL regular season games are always a big party!!!

  161. Brien (the real one) Says:

    666- Al Davis has 3 INTs tomorrow I guarantee it

  162. SilverNblack666 Says:

    The real Brien is on scholarship!!!!

  163. El Dirty Says:

    Mr.

    We have guests! Act straight man!

  164. La Milicia Negra Says:

    snb666..

    s’up?

  165. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Al Davis will be 1-0 on Tuesday!!!

  166. Brien (the real one) Says:

    666- i’ve been working on my route running i’ll make you guys all forget the names Jerry Porter and Randy Moss

  167. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Lowdown…

    didn’t get that!?

  168. Brien (The Real One) Says:

    exla - i am going to get completely wasted and drink a bottle of jack and like 20 beers, then smoke a blunt, and drive home. hahahah, watch out on the streeets..

    I am such a loser, lol.

  169. Milehigh_7 Says:

    You guys know it is all in fun. There would be nothing better than a little brawl in the stands.

    I will be back on Tuesday to rub it in or admit I was wrong. Denver 21-10

    Later Faders

  170. Lowdown in Beijing Says:

    B-job, thanks for asking.

    Well, I watched us play last season and again this preseason.

    Thanks for playing.

  171. Brien (the real one) Says:

    Al Davis= 22-28 275 yards 2 TDs 0 INT 6 carries 38 yards……..Al for MVP

  172. Thec Says:

    SNB 666, what up Brro?

    Hey donkey fan if you are a man come back to NATION land after we smash mouth you guys……

    I doubt you will….. no heart like your coach ratface…..

  173. Brien (the real one) Says:

    Downlow man is back…………how did the surgery go?

  174. El Dirty Says:

    666

    Yeah man! We go Donkey huntin in 5 Days! Did you clean your rifles?

  175. Brien (The Real One) Says:

    I think we will lose this game by a last second field goal.. elam is good.

  176. Brien (the real one) Says:

    I’m telling you guys if Al Davis doesn’t stop the run I want him cut tuesday morning!!!

  177. El Dirty Says:

    Elam????? Stupid

  178. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    last second field goal=sebass through the uprights

  179. Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Good Night Raider Nation. And to Milehigh_7 I hope you show your colors in the Black Hole. lol

  180. Brien (The Real One) Says:

    Im telling you guys if Al Davis doesn’t spank my bum I want him cut tuesday morning!!

  181. Thec Says:

    dis-chargers trying to get wille anderson

    http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/weblog/archives/027138.html

  182. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    El Dirty……MR is losing it……ever since Dakota scared him he hasnt shown much

  183. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    Why is that stupid El Dirty Sanchez?

  184. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    Thec- I dont dig that too much because we need a OT bad

  185. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    Post 182 is imposter MR

  186. Brien (Mr Killa) Says:

    The little guy is working hard today

  187. Brien (Mr Killa) Says:

    Keep trying buddy

  188. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    Because our line sucks, and is the worst is the nfl

  189. Thec Says:

    Brien, I dont dig that at all Bro…..

  190. SilverNblack666 Says:

    There is no way that guy will be back here on Tuesday!!!

  191. Lowdown in Beijing Says:

    LMN -

    Entirely my fault..(can’t spell).

    I meant “Miscegenation”.

    Joking about you cat’s having so many laws..(hence I am in China).

    To that end, I commented it’s best to have Miscegenation laws to ensure the rest of the world isn’t contamentated my Euro genes.

    Eh…never mind.

    Go Raiders

  192. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    186 and 187 imposters

  193. Brien (KoolAid Loving) Says:

    Come on MR keep it up………we all know you will be committing suicide after the Raiders win this season

  194. SilverNblack666 Says:

    Besides El Dirty has a gun!!!

    DEAD donkey!

  195. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    Thec, i dont care what you dig or not azz hat

  196. Brien (I OWN MR) Says:

    Zone blocking i guess is not a fit for Anderson but shot you dont zone block when you protect the QB

  197. Brien (Authentic) Says:

    MR just cant take the heat, he has to post as others to feel part of the group.. Poor kid probably beat up as a child.

  198. Thec Says:

    azz hat, ROFLMAO………. thats pretty good coming from a troll next.

  199. Brien (I OWN MR) Says:

    666- you drink too much kool-aid

  200. Brien (I OWN MR) Says:

    Can anyone guess my age?

  201. i dress in black Says:

    Shanahan’s game plan: Stack the line, force JR into making poor choices with his Arena League fleet of receivers

  202. Thec Says:

    13?

  203. 408RAIDER Says:

    666
    sup brother?

    LOL mile high pile

    # Milehigh_7

    you coward a$s donkey fans don’t have the stones to show up @ our house let alone try to brawl.. Please The NATION invades your stadium every year so STFU!

  204. Brien (Rules MR) Says:

    666- im ready to revoke your scholarship buddy!! go see your academic advisor

  205. I Dress In Black Says:

    14?

  206. Brien (destroys MR) Says:

    yeah guess the age of someone who comes under someone else’s name

  207. Brien (Rules MR) Says:

    Come on, guess my age yo

  208. Thec Says:

    I wonder what it does to the brain when you take on several personalities…. that has got to be some scary SH!t…… I wonder what you see at night little man. I hope you dont choke on purp, or drink coz I know your azz be seeing sh!t…..

    Your mind is controlled and you dont know it….
    But your funny all the same.

  209. Dakota Says:

    10?

  210. Brien (torments MR) Says:

    Anyways back to football because MR refuses to speak about football

  211. Sethj Says:

    Raider Nation…anyone hear anything about us picking up Chad Jackson?

    Seth
    Raider Fan Since 1982

  212. Brien ( MR's nightmare) Says:

    lol Thec……sad life

  213. Dakota Says:

    lol, look at Brien and Thecs sentances,. they are the same person. LMFAO.. who is calling the kettle black Thec?

  214. Brien ( MR's nightmare) Says:

    Dakota…real one……….you did a number on this guy man I applaud you

  215. Thec Says:

    Nice try troll on post 213. Thec is orginal…. you are a troll

  216. Brien ( MR's nightmare) Says:

    Haha Thec we are the same person now

  217. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Brien..

    you’re dangerously close to become as annoying as the ‘MR’ phenomenon..

  218. Buffoon Says:

    Milelow_7 is a buffoon.

  219. Brien ( beats up MR) Says:

    Come on Troll boy…………you can keep trying but it doesnt work

  220. Thec Says:

    Who ever you are you mind is truly Fu@Ked up. Get some help…… Dont hurt yourself, get some help…..

  221. Brien ( beats up MR) Says:

    LMN……………nor do I care just count your Euros

  222. Terrapin Says:

    Man …everyone just loving crowning Cutler (don’t you just love Denny Green for that word “crown” ‘em?) …here’s Kings prediction:

    ***********************

    Denver Broncos (0-0) at Oakland Raiders (0-0)

    In the Greenberg-Golic Bowl, the Raiders actually show up. Javon Walker actually catches a touchdown pass. But the story of this game is Jay Cutler beginning to take his place among the NFL elite quarterbacks with a three-touchdown pass opener.

    Prediction: Denver Broncos 24, Oakland Raiders 17

    ******************************

    Everyone’s already crowning Cutler before he has shown much of anything in this league except miss the playoffs 2 years straight. We know we have the more “talented” QB but I don’t hear many analyst speaking of him. They are drinking too much Donkey kool-aid. If I only listened to analyst and never watched football I would have thought Elway was the greatest QB ever. WRONG!!

  223. Brien (MR's Nightmare) Says:

    stfu LMN, you can kiss my asssss jerk off

  224. Thec Says:

    Brien, thats coming from that dumb a$$ troll, what a idiot….. I would like to meet him/her in person and just laugh in his/her face…..

  225. Brien ( beats up MR) Says:

    LMN- I’m only annoying to people who dont know shhhhhhhit or people who are soft……which one are you?

  226. i dress in black Says:

    Jerry please mandate registration with your developers.

  227. 408RAIDER Says:

    yo dirty my bad it was @ the end… LOL

  228. Brien ( MR wants to be me) Says:

    hahahah post 223…………nice fifth grade routine

  229. Brien ( MR wants to be me) Says:

    Terp- becuz they are idiots…..Elway is not coming back but alot of the analysts think he is

  230. Brien ( MR try again) Says:

    Cutler will throw many picks this season……they claim to be a pass first team……..imma love that

  231. Thec Says:

    the mediots crown cutlear, like they crown the dis-chargers.

    Just like the big facination with farve….

    FU@K farve, cutlark, and the dis-chargers.

  232. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Lowdown….

    How ya doin?

    You still enjoy, kicking the hornets nest, from time to time, I see.

    Longest, week ever.

  233. Brien ( MR try again) Says:

    Thec exactly

  234. raidernathan Says:

    Three touchdowns?? Against our Pass Defense?? Please. When the Mediots come up with useful information please let me know.

  235. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Brien..

    no thanks, you got to find somebody else to kiss your asz.. and i don’t have any euros =)

    it was just a heads up, its up to you..

  236. 408RAIDER Says:

    Is It Monday yet sheeze!

  237. Thec Says:

    Troll, i am truly in awe of the amount of genuine laughter you bring to this blog….. Let me congratulate your DUMB a$$ for being the funniest multiple personality Idiot I have the pleasure of laughing at….. Keep it coming, coz i know in real life……oh wait you dont have one…. Or maybe you do maybe you are a lawyer with several splits… either way keep the laughter rolling stupid.

  238. Terrapin Says:

    AND what the hell is up the Dr.Z’s absolutely ludicrous power rankings? I mean really? Raiders 31? Worse than KC, Miami, et al? Is he serious or just looking for controversy? Stuff like that just make you look stupid.

  239. i dress in black Says:

    He isn’t that bad in fact he is a pretty good talent who has a better set of WR’s to work with. Combined with more pro experience I imagine his QB rating at the end of the season will be better than JR’s

  240. Brien Says:

    LMN I can care less about being you people’s friends……….that is up to you….if you are annoyed who gives a flying phuck? Hell you annoy me but I’m here oh well

  241. Brien Says:

    Terp- he is serious……..you outta see foxsports.com

  242. hwnrdr Says:

    Post 175: Elam? or were you being sarcastic?
    Post 147: Is that what you did in the 3rd quarter last year?
    Whoever is going Monday night, have fun. If you are tailgating, lets party like mofo Raider fans that we are!!! Go Raiders!!!

  243. You know who Says:

    Schefter was right. Just as he always is. Now don’t you guys get how the Raiders try to deny crap, and use their coaches to help them spin? Now, back to Kiffin being gone by the bye…that’s another story you idiots are in denial of.

  244. Thec Says:

    I will say this the real Brien is on point. I have much respect for the real brien and the real LMN.

    ONE NATION

  245. skippy Says:

    I saw Chad Jackson was in Alameda…….any news???

  246. Los Malosos Says:

    I dont think Walker’s hurt. Its just Kiff and Al taking advantage of the rumor-monger for a change…Any ways, I dont think Walker’s that important, IMO our key is stopping the run, if we take care of that we’re set.

  247. Brien Says:

    Everyone says at max we can win only 6 games…….that’s a joke the team last year could have had 6-8 wins easily………they hate us big time but its not liek we havent gave them any ammo

  248. Brien Says:

    Thec I appreciate it……if you dont have a prob with LMN thats cool that is yall deal……you can hate me all you want but i point out true facts and most people cant deal with the truth

  249. Raider Raul Says:

    That damm Schefter!!! Jerry, he scooped you again, and he works for the enemy!!! Sad…

    Predictions for Monday night’s game:
    -Jamarcus will throw for 220 yards with 2TDs (Walker & Miller)
    -Johnny Lee will break a long TD for a TD. I’m not a huge fan of the guy, but he’s gonna be super-juiced for the game.
    -McFadden will have more yards than Fargas. Bush will get his first TD.
    -Walker will have 6 catches for 84 yards and a TD.
    -Raiders win: 31-27.

  250. raidernathan Says:

    This season is going to be even better when we prove all of the last place and 3-13 predictions wrong!

  251. i dress in black Says:

    With no WR, mediocre offensive line with no depth, and it remains to be seen what the defense will improve too. 6 games is a reasonable prediction. We may get to 8 Do you really think we can win 10 games?

  252. Brien Says:

    wow raul you think denver with being a pass first team will score 27 points?

  253. Brien Says:

    3-13 makes zero sense considering we have more talent than the 4-12 team a year ago……plus no Sapp or Stu!!! Idiots in the media

  254. Thec Says:

    8-8 minimum. too much improvement….Wait a fU@king minute. what team has improved its offensive weoponry more than we have? Grated that on paper we are not as stout in the WR, who has upgraded the offense more than we have. I o-line is still a question mark but is it better than last years?

  255. Los Malosos Says:

    10 is doable, only if the zebras cuts us some brakes here and there…

  256. Kevin Says:

    Javon walker….what a waste of time an engergy for kiffin

  257. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Brien..

    well okay, good for you.. it was just a heads up, the funny stuff with fora like these, is they are only fun when its two-way communication..

    you rants make you very much like ‘MR’..

    as I said, it was just a heads-up..

  258. Brien Says:

    I Dress- yes not because we are so good or anything but the crap scedule calls for 10 wins being realistic as long as no significant injuries

  259. You know who Says:

    Los Malosos, pay attention.

    The Davis brigade DENIED Walker being hurt. They showcased Walker to the press, having him run fluff routes in the wrong jersey number so that none of the press could pay close attention to him. No video is available, of course. Then the Raiders announce that Walker was out there, in a different jersey number. They did this for two reasons, numbnuts:

    1) To have Walker run around, giving the impression he’s ok.

    2) To disguise who he is so people like Jerry coulnd’t closely watch him to notice him being unable to cut, or that he was runnin fluff routes and never cutting, anyway.

    Los Molosos (espanol for The Raiders), stop being a pendejo.

  260. 909raiderlifer Says:

    Anyone read what, the Rat & the Hype, had to say in the media conference call. Over at J.J.’s blog?

    Said, that the burros are going to blitz, J Russ a ton.

    And, the Rat is concerned about our three headed monster.

    Rat season opens, 9-8-08. No limit.

  261. Brien Says:

    MR hates Al Davis….predicts tragedy for Raider season……..sounds like me right? Come on you are reaching now

  262. Thec Says:

    NATION gotta go, troll take care get your meds…
    Anyone posting as me is obviously a troll and should be treated as such

    LTR

    ONE NATION

  263. Brien Says:

    people act like the Raiders are addled with a hard schedule……..it hasnt been like this for years

  264. El Dirty Says:

    Brien or Mr. whoever

    Where does Elam work?

  265. You know who Says:

    El Pendejo,

    10 wins is do-able if the refs give us a break or two?

    What should the refs do, spot us 10 points per game? Heck, even that wouldn’t be enough.

  266. Brien Says:

    Brien<———not worried about Walker,Curry,JLH,Watkins and Schilens…….better speed and hands and more hunger than last year’s unit

  267. Los Malosos Says:

    hahaha. thanks for the 411, you know who. still I hate that schefter dude, I hope we get the better of him soon.

  268. You know who Says:

    Brien, there’s no such thing as an easy Raiders’ schedule.

  269. Brien Says:

    El Dirty……….come on MR has been left

  270. Brien Says:

    Yawwwwwwnnnnnnnn MR yes this season it is

  271. You know who Says:

    Brien, there is no such thing as an easy Raiders’ schedule. The Raiders are notorious for playing down to teams’ levels, no matter how bad they are. It’s part of the culture. The Raiders will find a way to lose.

  272. Brien Says:

    AFC West= not strong at all and injuries galore will be the definition of the division

    NFC South= come on only New Orleans poses a threat the rest are weak

    AFC East= get pats late in year which helps, buffalo is tough place, nyj in for a rude awakening, phins? come

    baltimore scares you………houston would be a tough game…….but come on the schedule isnt that bad at all

  273. La Milicia Negra Says:

    909..

    yup.. thats okay.. I would feel the same way =)

  274. Brien Says:

    MR…………quit regurgitating Jamie Dukes lines ok………Raiders havent had talent in years and were not better than those sorry teams they lost to

  275. Los Malosos Says:

    I agree with Brien, we’ve got an easy enough schedule. 10 wins baby! And Javon plays Monday pain free!

  276. Brien Says:

    So when the Raiders are 3-1 heading into the bye…………You Know Who…I mean MR…….what will you say about the schedule left? Its a tough schedule all the way through? HAHAHA

  277. El Dirty Says:

    Ahhh Mr.

    You better hope we lose buddy. If we win there will be 1000 posts in this place in your honor on how much of an idiot you have been this off-season. YOu need to go back to arguing Intelligently, they will respect you more.

  278. Raider Raul Says:

    B, you’re right…31-20.

  279. Brien Says: