Cable stresses fast pace
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 1st, 2008 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quick hits from Wednesday’s post-practice press briefing with coach Tom Cable and interviews with available players:
– Other than failing to recognize he was supposed to break down a special teams huddle at the beginning of practice and seeming confused when stepping to the microphone at the end, nothing seemed indecisive about Cable’s first day as coach.
“Hold on a second . . . do I start this?,” Cable said. “Bear with me a minute.”
Cable was told that since he’s the coach, he can do whatever he wants.
“Oh, really?,” he said with a laugh.
– With systems of football already in place and a quarter of a season in the books, there will be no dramatic changes. One minor change _ the practice of running plays over and over until they get them right that sometimes extended Raiders practices by 20 minutes or more under Lane Kiffin has been junked.
“I will say this to you _ we’re going to stay on schedule. Practice isn’t going to run over. If it’s scheduled to be an hour and 35 minutes or whatever it is, it’s going to be an hour and 35,” Cable said. “We’ll get in, get the work done right and get off the field so we can go in, teach and learn, and get better that way.
“The work will be tempo, tempo, tempo, as fast as we can go and keep pushing that, because I just believe, if you play faster than the other guy he’s going to give up somewhere in that game, so that will always be our deal, to keep pressing them. So, that may be the only difference. If it’s 10 reps, it will be 10 and be done. If it’s 15, it’s 15 and get done. Whatever the situation is, we’ll hold true to it.”
– Rest assured that if Kiffin had to go, the offensive line is on board with Cable as the replacement.
“Coach Cable is going to be awesome,” tackle Kwame Harris said. “He’s done a lot for me, just playing my position since the start of this year. I think what people can expect out of him is a very straightforward, honest, sincere coach who loves this game.”
Guard Robert Gallery said the “tempo” theme was stressed immediately.
“Once we got to the team portion of it, the tempo was a little faster,” Gallery said. “He made that a point this morning that when get in a situation, JaMarcus has been here long enough, he knows it, and the faster we get in and out (of the huddle), the easier it’s going to be on game day.”
– Said Gallery of the “distraction” factor: “I think everyone was tired of hearing about it. I don’t think it was helping us to come in and hear about it every week.”
– It’s doubtful you’ll hear Cable talk openly about his team’s shortcomings the way Kiffin often did. While falling short of Joe Bugel’s memorable “multiple Super Bowls” forecast, Cable is talking about playing in January.
“We’re a good team, we’re going to run for the playoffs, and that’s our deal,” Cable said. “We’re not going to back down, and we’re not afraid to say that. Because you have to if you believe in yourself.”
– Justin Fargas is in his sixth season and is playing for his fifth head coach. So he can be excused for shrugging off Tuesday’s events as just another day at the office.
When asked if it was the strangest day of his Raiders career, Fargas shrugged.
“I don’t know if it was the strangest. It was another day,” Fargas said. “Just shows that change can come overnight and you’ve got to move on and do your job.”
– Fargas, who became a 1,000-yard rusher under Kiffin last season, was sorry to see him go but ready to move on.
“From what I seen and I felt, everybody supported Lane,” Fargas said. “We were happy to play for him. There’s just a situation that happens in this business and you have to be able to move on and, like I said before, do your job. But, nah, guys liked Lane and guys like Cable too. So we’re going to play for our head coach and it’s Tom Cable and we’re going to play for him.”
– Cable doesn’t want any stragglers. He’s not big on team rules.
“What I believe in is be early, we’ll get done early, and you’re going to play your guts out for each other,” Cable said. “That’s all that matters. Be where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there. That’s plenty of rules. We’re grown men.”
– The Raiders practiced in shells and Cable said the big emphasis was getting in a quick-tempo workout and getting people healthy during the bye week. Guard Cooper Carlisle (ankle) practiced and was limited after being inactive against San Diego. Cable said he thought Carlisle would be ready to face the Saints on Oct. 12.
Also limited were S Gibril Wilson (back), LB Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) and RB Michael Bush (quad), none of which are considered serious. RB Darren McFadden (toe) and Fargas (groin) were out, as was TE Ben Troupe (foot) and T Seth Wand (knee).
Fargas said he expected to be ready to face New Orleans.
– The Raiders practice Thursday before taking the weekend off and returning Monday.
Sapp sounds off
Former Raiders defensive tackle Warren Sapp held nothing back in assessing the Raiders situation in his role as an analyst on Showtime’s Inside the NFL.
“I remember the first two weeks I was there, we played a pre-season game. Somebody came up one time and said, ‘We’re going deep right here, dog.’ I said, how do you know? He said, ‘The phone just rang.’
“All the preparation that goes into a week of work is there, the practicing that you have to put in order to do these things, sometimes he (Al Davis) messed with that part of it and that’s what kills you.”
More Sapp:
On players signing on to play with the Raiders
Sapp: Nobody tells you how bad it is. I remember seeing Trace Armstrong after spending my four years there. I wanted to choke the life out of him. I wanted to kill him . . . and then Phillip Buchanon was there. I said, Phil, why didn’t you tell me this? I said, you all did wrong. Because any person that calls me on the telephone, (I tell them) do not go anywhere near Oakland.
On Lane Kiffin being fired, fair or unfair
Sapp: Way unfairly. He came in there with a change of mentality. The whole system. He changed how the locker room looked because it was going to take that kind of overhaul for Oakland to become the proud franchise we all knew it was.
On Al Davis
Sapp: He is the common equation. You take him out, put him at home watching film or whatever he is doing – you have a functioning football organization. But once he comes over the top, he goes and starts moving it around . . .
“Al Davis knows football – it’s just ‘60s and ‘70s football. That’s what it is. He’s thinking that Cliff Branch is outside and (Jim) Plunkett is dropping back and you can throw it 80 yards down the field – deep ball, deep ball, deep ball.”
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October 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
WHEN DID THE RAIDER NATION GET SOFT? SOME OF YOU MAKE ME SICK.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
AS IF THAT LOSER SAPP HAS ANY SHRED OF CREDIBILITY. THE RAIDERS WERE THE ONLY TEAM THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN IS FAT BUTT. HE RUNS HIS MOUTH LIKE HE IS HURT. LOL.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Phuck Sapp…….he is one of the most overrated players ever……but he did hurt Rice and Young in the same game
October 1st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
WHEN DID THE RAIDER NATION GET SOFT? SOME OF YOU MAKE ME SICK.
In 1984.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Phuck a Raidernation! That term was created in LA and it makes me sick. Screw the black hole and screw anything that was created in LA because LA is the main culprit in all of this
October 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
MIGHT HAVE BEEN SPIDER. BECAUSE THIS ISN’T THE REAL RAIDER NATION.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Arachnophobia, why do you come in here? Doesn’t your thong wearing franchise has a blog you can post on or are you that obsessed with your daddy?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:25 pm
you suck jerry
October 1st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
DAKOTA = SOFT
MR = VERY SOFT
CHAOS = POSER SOFT
October 1st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Phony Oakglenn shut up.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
I AM THE REAL OAKGLENN.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
YOU WERE PWND TODAY OAKGLENN.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I can sukk a dikk real good.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Al Davis is god!!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
wow alot went on in 24 hours…so what do you guys think the record for the remaining games will be????
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Oakglenn: How does it feal?
Oakglenn: Its very painful.
PWND LOL
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Warren looked good last night on Dancing with the Stars wearing eye-liner. Not that I watch that show or anything
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
hell yeah Jerry! Thanx 4 all the updates!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
SNAKE, WHO CARES AT THIS POINT. LANE KIFFIN IS GONE AND WE NOW HAVE SOME REAL BACKBONE BACK IN THE RAIDER NATION.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
oh forgot my number lol I think they win 4 more, if lucky 5…and looking at the schedule thats ok to fair…if they win 6 more im impressed
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Snake…….dunno but it will be more exciting than watching Kiffin’s boring ass dink and dunk offense
October 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I like taking it up my ass. no really, I do.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
408RAIDER TAKE OFF YOUR “NATION COLLECTIVE” BLOUSE.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Brien your a moron. Almost as stupid as travis henry, why don’t you call him up and try to set up a deal?
Spider…..How was that lone trip to the Superbowl for the Chokers? I thought Natron ment business? JA.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Lincoln kennedy
Warren Sapp
Rich Gannon
Adam Treu
All have something in common, talked about changing games plans on Saturday before games.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
anyway, back to the football talk. We need more ball rings out there.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Warren Sapp knows one thing: As soon as he stops making noise, stops making a spectacle of himself, he stops making the fortune he’s used to. Soon, he’ll have nothing of note to say, but he’ll still be talking anyway.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:31 pm
NATION COLLECTIVE IS SOFT. PLEASE LEAVE THE RAIDER NATION, WE DONT NEED YOU.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Hey 951 good idea and I can hide the dope up the beloved women in family snatches
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
I am ready to be hit by the showers. I love hitting the showers.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
One minor change _ the practice of running plays over and over until they get them right that sometimes extended Raiders practices by 20 minutes or more under Lane Kiffin has been junked.
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Cable, you might want to keep this one. I mean, if you can’t get the play right in practice, probably not going to get it right during the game. Practice like you play!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Sapp is a moron……I’v never liked fat people who talk alot of trash
October 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Oakglenn
Go snuggle back up to Al’s “soft” balzack.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
You can’t just keep discounting what guys like Gannon, Sapp, Moss and others say. It is what it is! Hopefully Al Davis realizes that he has to make some adjustments in how he has run this team over the last 5 or 6 years
October 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
wow. Looks like MR is in full melt down mode again. This started yesterday. Looks like Al Davis broke his brain. You guys, ignore oakglenn posts until he tires himself out and goes to take a nap.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:34 pm
951- Im sure your aunt,female cousins and sisters would love to part with me after I make the deal with Travis
October 1st, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
Hey 951 good idea and I can hide the dope up the beloved women in family snatches
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Thanks for proving my point moron.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pm
MR has been in meltdown mode for a while…………th guy cant get a date and is scoreless on the leaderboard for 2008
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Nation Collective - Pissed off in the 951 Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Brien your a moron. Almost as stupid as travis henry, why don’t you call him up and try to set up a deal?
Spider…..How was that lone trip to the Superbowl for the Chokers? I thought Natron ment business? JA.
Couldn’t tell ya, but I loved the victory over the Packers and the next year against the Falcons. The 3rd best SB was Bucs 150 faders 12!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Brien I would love to part with you already. Go earn your darwin award.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I’ll be a moron but my scarface dust party with your female familiy members will make me look like a smart man
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I can’t believe that’s still going on - my dad told me about the “phone calls” that came from Davis to throw deep (he worked in ad sales with the Raiders for a bit) 20 years ago in L.A. - I can’t believe Davis still does that - maybe the phone calls aren’t necessary since Knapp called plays last week sitting in the box next to davis - just need a couple cans and a string or prison style morse code taps on the wall.
Anyway, that’s a shocker - I mean I kind of got it in the 80’s, we were still running the Al Davis/Sid Gilman (now better known as the Shell/Walsh offense)offense back then, so he knew the playbook backwards and forwards. Oh well, Cable looks like another yes man, dumping rules, dumping extra reps until they get it right, etc. I guess he had to make a couple changes just so he could show the team he was his own man and exercise a little authority, but we’ll see if he can light that fire we need to finish - I do like the vote of confidence in JaMarcus, he needs to take his lumps - he’s already proven he can operate a safe and conservative offense, and he’s proven he can hit the deep ball and fit it into tight spaces - open this sucker up, throw in more west coast slants, quick outs, and short crossing patterns, along with some trick plays to keep the D honest and protect our tackles a little bit, and let’s see what happens.
Like I said before, you can’t finish until you play to win rather than play to not lose. We all know that, and I won’t complain if Rob Ryan keeps blitzing when we have leads deep into the 4th quarter and we get burned and lose the game that way - if we have to be in a man scheme as our base D, then bring those corners up and send some extra rushers and make the QB beat you in under 2 seconds with a short pass - we must dictate the game with this D scheme and soft man prevent doesn’t cut it. I would love if we could succeed eventually just rushing 3 or 4 guys, but if it’s not working, send more.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Broncos= cheater bowls 97 and 98 you mean spiderwoman
October 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
snake Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
wow alot went on in 24 hours…so what do you guys think the record for the remaining games will be????
0-12
October 1st, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Kiffin= loved losing
October 1st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Spider=believes Elway is coming back
October 1st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Wow, your happy with 2 wins in two season…..Aim high.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
951- dont be mad at me cuz your depressed in that meth lab heaven called Moreno Valley
October 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Arachnophobia, why do you come in here? Doesn’t your thong wearing franchise has a blog you can post on or are you that obsessed with your daddy?
Sometimes normal gets to be a little boring. I get a kick out of all the dysfunctional ladies on your blog better.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I’m happy with conservo ass offense being ousted………aim “HIGH” you damn right…….I’ll let you know whenthat deal goes through
October 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Jerry Mac..
Thank you, for all the updates.
Cable, sounds like a no B.S. type. Liked the ” be early, get done early” line.
Another coach, had a similar approach.
“Be on time, pay attention, and play like hell on Sunday.”—John Madden.
Would like to see, Sapp blow his knee out. on “Dancing With The Fools.”
October 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Brien
WTF? Can you complete a thought or are the words just too big for you?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Dysfunction like Columbine?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Bunch of friggin idiots blogging right now
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
any of you guys like taking golden showers? I do.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Too big……something the ladies never told ya huh buddy
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Cable wants to win unlike Kiffin who wanted to spite Al only with losses
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
The only truth I want to get to the bottom of was Al’s claim of agents calling in complaining. If that is true, that will help Al’s insubordination claim. If it is false, than that is the worst of all lies
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Al Davis is a godam discrace.
Couldn’t have said it better myself brian!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Brien don’t try going somewhere you have no idea about. Last time I checked the 951 was more then MoVal.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Any of you dumb f’cks gonna talk football instead of calling each other out and asking fellow fans to leave?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Vegas……Al aint lying
October 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Inland Empire……..same hillbilly hick area trying to be surburban now……got that GP ready for the meth my friend?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
WTF has happened to Curry’s hands. I thought Lofton was supposed to be an upgrade at WR coach!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Vegas……Al aint lying when he’s asleep. He’s upright in his wheel chair.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Wow the Cubs up early 2-0……..Dakota might be pissing his Jeff Foxworthy jeans right now
October 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Don’t bother letting me know, just use it all at once and do the rest of us the favor of offing your dumb azz.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Wheelchair rolls right over cheating ass Bowlen’s feet at the NFL owners meeting every year
October 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
No one in here could ever off me…….trust that…….now the women that are closest to you they can “off” me all they want
October 1st, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Hmmm - I’m rethinking the whole approach of practicing until you get it right, could be a good call - there are no second chances on the field on gameday, so it could be beneficial to stress that point, and force people to get it right the first time, every time. That may take a while to sink in, but the first time the raiders win with that approach, it should definetly help them focus more and perhaps it will help. We’ll see, but there is a good side to that, and it works well with taking the training wheels off JaMarcus and increasing the tempo of the practice.
I like it - it’s a decision with some sound principles behind it - at least this coach is likable and known to the players and has charisma - we needed that to preserve any chance for a good season -
Can’t wait to see the difference of philosophies show up on the field against the Saints - I expect much more passing to the WR’s.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Jedi- exactly
October 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Keep thinking that you toofless moron.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm
I’m estatic the olinemen love the Cable prmotion but dammit can you guys pass block for once?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Wheelchair rolls right under Bowlen’s feet at the NFL owners meeting every year.
I agree. Greazeball is that low.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:48 pm
yeah we know the toothbrush was invented in the 951…….if it was invented anywhere else it would be called the teethbrush
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Greaseball with more titles, wins and influence that your coward ass cheating owner
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Hmmm…..let’s see….just about every former player and coach has negative feelings for Al Davis and his meddling deranged ways (except for the legends he takes care of). And we’re supposed to side with Al?
I buy merchandise and tickets for to watch a sh1t product and stand aside as this idiot Davis runs it into the ground. And we’re supposed to side with Davis.
80% of America blames Davis for the teams failure. And I’m supposed to side with Davis?
You dumb f;ck morons need to get a f.cking life. Go back to school. It’s not too late to finish middle school and maybe, just maybe, graduate high school. Stupid f.ck pieces of sh1t!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Here is my question to Sapp, and I apologies if someone has already asked it. How do you explain the Raiders providing better defense and specifically better run defense (minus the run my LT last week) WITHOUT Sapp this year and more or less it is the same group of DL as it was last year.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Cable,
If the players are not running the plays correctly in practice, they aren’t going to run it well in the game. Be sure to stay on them and demand excellence in execution.
Especially with guys like Javon Walker and our receiving corps. If any group needs to run things till they get it right its that group.!!!!!!!
Same thing with your offensive tackles.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
post 77- we can graduate from those places and still have more sense and pu$$y than you could ever dream of
October 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Tex……..great post!!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Hello Nation #70 Jedi…good points. I beleive Teams takre on the personality of their coach. At 1st glance..I like Cables fire and can do attitude.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Sapp was the worse run defender ever
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
STI
Try spell check before you preach ignorance.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Cable has more personality than Kiffin. Kiff is like watching a paint dry
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The Rams went deep all the time with their ‘Greatest Show on Turf’ and they were pretty damn successful. That was in this decade, Warren.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:52 pm
spell check=zzzzzzzzzzzzz no one cares English teacher……..you want me to bring you an apple before the principal nails you after school hours over his desk?
October 1st, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Greaseball with more titties, spins and effluent than your charismic owner? Why would anyone call that demented old cronie a god?
Now you are seeing the light brian!
October 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
that was hurtful, no bend over so oakglenn can spank you.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
The light= 2006 jake plummer being benched so the mountain my little pony mules miss the postseason
October 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Brien<———spanks women……never is spanked…….try again hillbilly
October 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Cable comes across as as Man’s Man. Ergo His comments.
Be where you’re supposed to be and play your guts out for one another. Simple and true.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Maybe Cable will snap Ryans neck after his next meltdown on defense. One could hope.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Terrapin’s Final Thoughts:
I read no one’s comments - not selfish of me - just busy and all with the markets. Its a helluva time and doubly so for the Raiders.
If any of you are actually justifying this move; then you are truly the super-kool-aid drinkers. You must be drinking it straight from Al Davis’ jock with all due respect. Open you eyes MEN - don’t be led around like some damned dogs.
Its a brilliant move to give Cable the job - both from a player standpoint and a fan standpoint. It makes losing Kiffin a little easier to bare doesn’t it? Why? Because Cable has already received high praise from both - very high praise to be frank.
But don’t be fooled by this trickery. The common equation is still the same like Sapp, Gannon, et al keep reiterating - that being Al Davis.
How the hell do you screw this up? 90% of the fans out there INCLUDING THE PLAYERS (as I cannot stress that point enough) could see this ball club headed for great things. But it wasn’t Al Davis’ way of doing things. Kiffin was too brash.
So what will history have to say about this? Will Kiffin be the next HC to go on to win a Super Bowl after getting fired by Davis. Shall I recant those that have already done it? Shanahan, White, Gruden, and one or two others I’m forgetting.
I’ll tell you what…history is being written at this moment and history is writing off Al Davis. He is ruining is very own legacy he strives so hard to maintain - its over - the cats nearly out the bag on this one. The fat lady has sung. Damn near every public persona you see out there is discredited Davis - even his very own players that once played for him.
Make no mistake Nation - this was a heavy blow. Heavy indeed. Losing Kiffin could hurt this organization tremendously - it could hurt the young stars Kiffin brought in. We lost what could have been a great coach when its all said and done.
I have to retire my fanhood until further notice. I’ll be a fan from a distance. I hope Cable performs well because I have no faith in Davis after what he has perpetrated. I’ll be a fan of the past and hope they change for the future. I will not root in futility.
If you can’t see beyond Davis’ bullsht then you truly are lost. This whole drama is eerily similar to Mike Shanahan’s firing. What would seriously hurt is if Denver hired Kiffin as OC.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Warren speaks the truth and you guys hate on him? Rich Gannon said the same thing in different words. Nobody loves the Raiders more than me, but I’m sick of their pathetic dysfunction. Virtually everyone who’s worked for the Raiders says the same thing: Al Davis is the problem. But don’t believe them - just look at the won/lost record over the past twenty years. Mediocre at best. Or, keep shooting the messengers and drinking the kool-aid.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
951 area code= let’s live in track homes and believe we are from LA
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Ottocrat Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The Rams went deep all the time with their ‘Greatest Show on Turf’ and they were pretty damn successful. That was in this decade, Warren.
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Becareful Ottocrat! Make sure that our tender to the touch offensive tackles can hold a block for more than a nanosecond and also make sure that our receivers get separation that allows those deep balls to be successfull.
So far the only player to get separation over the top was Z. Miller. Haven’t seen J.Walker or R.Curry do sh*t that gives me confidence that the greatest show on turf can be recreated here by fiat.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Hey brien,…..
October 1st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Hillbilly? Did you make it through 2nd grade lil buddy? You went to special classes and peepee’d you panties until last week didn’t you. Grow up.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
The offense sure did fight for Kiffin’s job I noticed
October 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
#93..I get the sense that Cable’s attitude will rub of on the entire Team.
If He comes out aggressive and playing to win…the vibe will be felt thru out the Team.
Ryan included.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Jim!! Sup man
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Ottocrat Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The Rams take it deep all the time with their ‘Greaseball owner’ and they were pretty damn successful in Greece. That was in this decade, Warren.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
The Cable interview on 1140 was good,…hes solid.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Never claimed to be from LA. Make up something else.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
No I didnt….a woman from your family tree took me in for home school and made me the freak I am now. The situation was similar to the Antoine Fisher story
October 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Cable=solid
Kiffin= jello
October 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Chillin bro,…havin a glass of red wine…watching baseball.
October 1st, 2008 at 4:59 pm
951 area code= for pu$$ies who can’t hack it in LA
October 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Watching Dakota’s cursed Cubbies?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Bob- it has been a riot in here today. People are just getting smacked around courtesy of the B-dizzle
October 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
And any of you fools actually believe Kiffin did not want JaMarcus are really out of your damned minds. I skimmed over that “letter” Al sent to Kiffin, immediately recognized it as horse sht, then read that line that Lane didn’t want Jam and I just couldn’t believe Davis put that lie out there. Dude is a liar.
Two firings: Kiffin & Shanahan …too similar to ignore. Al Davis is a flat out liar.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
fuk wit my Nation and you gonna catch a hot 1!
We pulled up
We all had shotguns…..
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
gotta split brien,…will look for you later….by the way how did that ho from CL work out last night?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Spider Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Ottocrat Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The faders take it deep all the time with their ‘Greaseball owner’ and they were pretty damn successful in Greece. That was in this decade, Warren.
otto, get it right the first time would you?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Cable will have balls unlike Kiffin
October 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
f sapp. he wasn’t sh*t in da town anywayz
October 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
LOL no CL…….Bob its called campus list and I’m a 19 year old girl whose boyfriend is a loser and doesn’t liek to get it on
October 1st, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Terrapin Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
And any of you fools actually believe Kiffin did not want JaMarcus are really out of your damned minds. I skimmed over that “letter” Al sent to Kiffin, immediately recognized it as horse sht, then read that line that Lane didn’t want Jam and I just couldn’t believe Davis put that lie out there. Dude is a liar.
Two firings: Kiffin & Shanahan …too similar to ignore. Al Davis is a flat out liar.
Terrapin, sheeple will believe anyone tells them, they just can’t think for themselves!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
terrapin,..kiffin is the liar,..youre just an idiot who cant handle the truth,..stop your crying over kiffin,..hes gone,..maybe you should join him.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:03 pm
CL not bad though……..many of the posters on this blog wives are getting plowed courtesy of CL
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Sapp was not town bizness
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Cable has nothing to lose. He needs to do it His way…If it works..Great.
Play to win. Have a sack. Kick some Ass or get knocked out trying.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
It doesn’t matter how “solid” Cable is. Don’t you guys see? Open your damned eyes. The Rat was “solid”, Gruden was “solid”, White was “solid” …they all won Super Bowls after Davis fired them! And I know I’m forgetting someone.
Its just like Gannon said, what makes you think Cable is going to succeed when all of these worthy “solid” predecessors have failed? To believe so is just ignorance - and I’m being honest.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Len- exactly. You are much mroe dangerous when you have nada to lose
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Cable has Al’s balz just like brien and oakglenn. The old man is still a playa.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
what is wrong with some of you??
Man…some of you clowns are like Al Davis…..you want to win…you talk about winning….but you don’t know what it takes to win!
Clowns!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
my bad guys..
Me and the boss left work early and hit the bar!
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# Oakglenn Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
408RAIDER TAKE OFF YOUR “NATION COLLECTIVE” BLOUSE.
——–
Sup OG? You know I got love 4 you even when it’s Tard boy posting as OG!!
Yo Tard go try to breath under water or something….
October 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 4:58 pm
No I didnt….a woman from your family tree took me in for home school and made me the freak I am now. The situation was similar to the Antoine Fisher story
Antoine Fisher? Was he transexual or a transvestite?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Yawn yawn yawn to trash 951. No playas come from your area so you wouldn’t know what a playa is
October 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Cable will go 8 - 4.
Just Watch Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Spider- I dunno maybe your boyfriend Rudy Galindo could answer that
October 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Cable will have greazy al’s balls down his throat, unlike Kiffin
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Boooooooooooooooring, your spidey sense outta lead you to funnier commentary………you are sounding more and more like 951’s favorite programming Blue Collar TV
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Go pop in your too short 8 track and try to learn some new material.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Al Davis is god!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
So, Warren consults with P. Buchannon and T. Armstrong about the Raiders. What do they have in common? They all sucked dack when they got here…
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
too short music isthe shhhhhhhhhhit buddy……and don’t you forget it
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
LONG LIVE AL Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Cable will go 0 - 12.
Just Watch Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Terrapin - Stop crying. You sound like Kiffin on ESPN last night.
Was yesterday “painful” for you?
Raiders will be 9 - 7 THIS year.
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Material= shall be the women of your family……..that’s all the “material” I need to update my shhhhhhit
October 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Post 80 - what? What point did you make with your incoherent rambling. “We can graduate from those places and still have more…”? Umm….hello dumb f.ck! So you’re admitting you haven’t graduated from “those places”? LMAO!!!! You are a friggin dropout! I knew it.
You POS. Go the f’ck back to Alabama you f@gg0t! Quit acting like you like the ladies. The only pu$$y you get is from your cuzon (misspelled on purpose dumb f’ck - read it phonetically - or do you even know what that means?) and half-sister (same person).
October 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Otto
They were all brought in by
Al Davis.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Too $hort=Town Business
October 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Spider - Do you want cable to go 0 - 12?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Question??
What makes you people believe that Kiffin was such a good coach? Honestly, what did he ever do that makes him such a good coach. The players played hard for him??? The head coach better get the players to play hard for him. That’s implicit in a head coach’s job. The fact is no one here could actually come up with any specific reasons as to why Kiffin is a good head coach. If anything, head coaches need to be good game managers and Kiffin proved over and over that he was not. This will not turn into another Shanahan or Gruden situation.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Spider- I dunno maybe your girlfriend Jennifer too hot too trot could answer that
October 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Not a drop out and much a I “drop in” for monthly visits with women. Alabama=zzzzzzzzzzzzzz I’m from Oakland,Ca boy. Better get up on it. I would take your “lady” but I don’t screw male blowup dolls
October 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
The only way this team ends up 9-7 is if 6 teams don’t show up.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Sapp can talk all he wants. He was a “good soldier” while a Raider. But He was waay past His prime, and kept His mouth shut because He was a proffessional, AND He liked the checks He got from Al twice a month.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Boooooooooooooooring, your spidey sense outta lead you to funnier commentary
outta? Is that in the dictionary?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Spiderwoman- you meant Jams right…….women don’t phuck bronco fans……they just take their money and let Raider men smash when they come into town………….All star weekend 2005
October 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
As always, this is a lot of static except Madden’s take. Quoth the Maden “nevermor”…..
October 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
True that, Crimedog.
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Too $hort = played out and boring.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Hell ya…. Play hard on sunday
October 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
spider=tard boys in bred son/nephew
October 1st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn to dictionary talk. you are reaching now spiderwoman
October 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Too short= never shall be boring…….only boring for people who can’t run the hoes
October 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
darkknight01 Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:04 pm
what is wrong with some of you??
greazy al bred them?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
951 come on bro short dawg is ol’ school yes.. played out no… Im just sayin
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
After the Saint Game we should have a bit of an idea as to how the raiders will perform the rest of the season.
I’ll be looking at the play calls on bothj sides of the ball, and the effort put forth by the players.
It will also be interesting to see how time outs and clock management issues play out.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Nation Collective - Pissed off in the 951 Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:12 pm
The only way this team ends up 9-7 is if 6 teams don’t show up.
Words of a loose pu$$y
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
LONG LIVE AL Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Terrapin - Stop crying. You sound like Kiffin on ESPN last night.
Was yesterday “painful” for you?
Raiders will be 1 - 15 THIS year.
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
408 nevermind him……he is SoCal with it…..so he likes Usher these days
October 1st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
You couldn’t run a ho in a 90 year old womans garden, not because I don’t think you could talk her out of her depends, but that would mean you would have to work for a minute and might loose that welfare check.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Excuse me for a moment. Big Al’s nuts are hanging in my face. It’s time for his treatment.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:17 pm
My welfare check helps support my habit of beating something on your aunts, female cousins and sister
October 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Wow we have a troll……..more testament to my greatness………keep it up
October 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
408
Just talkin smack to nutless. His pu$$y is chaffed.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
LOL @ post# 166. So true. Brien (WTF kind of spelling is that for that name anyway) gave me that same impression (of being on “the welfare”).
October 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
I dont talk women out of their pants……..women talk me out of mines…….its called the Art of Getting Chosed……something you have zero idea about
October 1st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
try a new line. that was old in 74.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Brien I feel it is my job to enlighten all my so cal brethren… Oh well I tried!
FREE DIRTY!!!!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Welfare is going the way of the dino’s. Can’t hand out what we don’t have.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
nothing is never new accept that new trick your lil sis does with her mouth on me
October 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
LONG LIVE AL Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Spider - Do you want cable to go 0 - 12?
Sure, I wanna see how many good coaches turn greazy al down after he fires Cable, then wath the old geezer hire a 2nd year OL coach out of North Dakota State as his next HC.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Chosed……WTF? If I was Chosed I would have a serious problem.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Cable will go 8 - 4.
Watch and learn.
Just Win Baby.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
74? damn you tell us how old and feeble you are……….74 was the last time you grabbed the tweezers to pull it out so you could get laid?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
951 we’re good brethren…
Short dawg rocks da party tho!!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
And I am fast coming to the belief that Nnamdi wants nothing to do with this organization. He won’t ever sign unless Cable makes some kind of miraculous run. Listening to Nam on NFLN - you can see that he knows what the problem is and all he wants to do is win.
Two star CBs: Nnamdi Aso and Charles Woodson …situations too similar to ignore. Just like Woodson, Aso will never sign with Davis.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
“the Art of Getting Chosed”????
Anyone in the house speak ebonics? Anyone?
LMAO - what a f’ckin moron.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
B*tches choose 951……..but an ugly JJ faced moron like yourself is oblivious since you have to pay for pu$$y
October 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Keep reaching. You might pull one out one of these days. Until then, nice try. Go pay your hooker before a real pimp shows up and jacks you up.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Ebonics lol. And we all speak proper English in here? Right LOL
October 1st, 2008 at 5:24 pm
jacks you up? And you talk about new material? What’s next you gonna bring back your Androgynous outfits from the 1980s?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Only reaching I do is on one of the top aisles at BevMo!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
You know you still roll in your red and black parachute pants like your homo hero mike.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
“Cable doesn’t want any stragglers. He’s not big on team rules.”
That is exactly the problem. I am not spending any more money on this team, that is for sure.
Oakglen is an idiot, by the way.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
or reaching into the drawer to grab more rubbers
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Oakglenn…the real one is cool
October 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Red? Never wearing red. Too close to your team…….the 49ers
October 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Nation Collective - Pissed off in the 951 Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Chosed……WTF? If I was Chosed I would have a serious problem.
How about hosed by greasy al?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Now that this Kiffin / Davis drama is over (except for the money), I’m dropping the Nation Collective tag - I suspect however, that I will be adding it back at some point in the next year or so
I’m equally pissed at Kiffin as I am with Davis - those rumors of him going to Arkansas were true and were reported all over the place - that one part I do believe from Davis, and we know Jerry Jones (Arkansas Alum and huge booster) and Al are buddies and he was the one that called Al. Those rumors were going on 8 games into the season. That is total B.S. - Kiffin took this job for the sole purpose of getting his next job and there’s no way he didn’t get input from Gruden on what it would be like and I highly doubted that Al lied to him and told Kiffin he would have “Total Control” over all decisions - Kiffin lied to everyone he brought on board - no way a first year coach should ditch his team halfway through the season, I don’t care if he showed up to work everyday and busted his tail and got some good things accomplished - no other coach ever publically lambasts his own team, GM, or owner in the media - I fault Davis for a lot of it and I agreed with Kiffin 99% of the time and appreciated the job he did but every other coach we’ve had has kept that in house and more importantly hasn’t lobbied for other jobs 8 weeks into the regular season.
Kiffin was a self-serving traitor before he signed that contract, IMO - I’m sure he’ll be a great coach when he finds the job he wants and all that, but this could have been avoided if Al just fired him after the season and paid him his money - in fact, as soon as he tried to get that Arkansas job, he should have been fired for cause - that should be in the contract - you can’t job hunt 8 weeks into the season.
Al needs to bring in some people to help him out and give his coaches a chance, but I don’t think that will be a problem anymore - Turner had a bad team and couldn’t motivate a jihadi to blow something up, Shell was a disaster and we still had no talent, but now that our salary cap is cleared up from our superbowl run, we’ve had a couple decent drafts and acquired some more FA’s, our rebuild is essentially complete as long as the next coach preserves our Zone Blocking scheme - we need one more tackle and a NT (although sands is starting to play well), a #1 WR, and some depth to be playoff caliber - that’s two offseasons of work depending on how guys play this year. That means our next coach will only play one season before this rebuild is totally complete, and that should mean that he will succeed in his first couple of years AND get a contact extension (first since Shell regime 1 probably). If cable can keep Knapp around or find a good West Coast OC, our offense should be humming for years to come. If Ryan has seen the light and plans to blitz out of man coverage like he has for the last couple of weeks, then I may actually support him and that will give us quite a bit of continuity.
The point is, we now have the talent to compete and win, which will placate Davis and remove a lot of the pressure he places on his head coaches - we didn’t hear about any of this during the last two Gruden years, but it started off so rough that the relationship was doomed - the next head coach has a chance to look like a genious by winning a lot of games so the relationship should work out better. Cable is a raider lifer, understands Davis, and actually appreciates this job - if he can win for us this year, he should get a two year deal as HC, and if he’s successful after that, I doubt Davis wants to go through this again, or at least he’ll think twice.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Nice to know you practice safe sex. I will sleep better knowing that your boyfiends are protected and you care enough to wrap it.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Brien
has tard boy been posting as OG all day?
October 1st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Terrapin…the Raiders chose not to sign Woodson. No?
Or wouldn’t pay Him what Green Bay offered.. I don’t
recall.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Brien(Al Davis supporter) Says:
October 1st, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Oakglenn…the real one is cool
There isn’t a real one. He’s a figment of greazy al’s imagination.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:29 pm
yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnn to the boyfriend nonsense…….i phuck with b*tches bruh…….. and rubbers are only used half of the time. But someone who is sexually lacking like yourself wouldn’t know about entering the pu$$y raw. You are alike like MR, never feeling the warmth of a woman
October 1st, 2008 at 5:30 pm
408- yes he has tried but failed miserably……similar to 951 right now
October 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Hey 408………I heard about the freak fest party in SJ Hallowen night…….I’m sure SJ will be represented nicely by the Latinas inthe 408 area code
October 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Jedi
Matt is looking for a job. Al could bring him back. Then maybe we could draft a effing WR!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:31 pm
951 just find a sword and jump on it. No one will miss. People would piss and deficate on your grave
October 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
October 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Ahhhhhhhhhps its P U R P L E time. Take care every one and 951…….tell your girl to quit calling me its your sister’s turn tonight
October 1st, 2008 at 5:35 pm
I’ll be busy with you mom ………… see I can go middle school too.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
jedi keep keeping it real brethren!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:39 pm
brien
you know they will but mostly chicanas in sj don’t get it twisted…
October 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
951 - LOL - I was wondering who Matt was and then I put two and two together with the WR - That would be a disaster Al and Millen running the raiders I don’t know how you draft a WR who runs a 4.7 40 in the top 10 though - he couldn’t pick a decent head coach to save his life, but judging from the way he held onto that Detroit job despite stinking it up for 7 years, I’m pretty sure he would be cool kissing Al’s b#tt.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Its funny how when a ex player gives his view about his experience in Oakland they all say for the most part it was a nightmare, and peolpe get upset about it and then wanna drag their names through mud. Look,, if player after player after player comes to the same conclusion about the way things went in Oakland then just maybe there’s some truth to it. I bet some of you Kiffin Haters were the same people who were hoping last year that Rob Ryan would become our head coach. Now you guys have a ton of high hopes for our new “temp for hire” thinking we’re gonna go on a magical playoff run, but I doubt any of you would bet any money on that. I damn sure wouldnt!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Al davis should have never fired al kiffin. He said it himself the offense’s plays were called by kiffin and last time i checked that was the only reason we were still in games. The defense blew leads by playing prevent and allowing teams to rip them apart. Its rob ryans fault we keep losing bring a blitz every once and awhile.Kiffin was moving in the right direction the defense wasnt. Also al davis went out and spent money on players you can tell kiffin didn’t want.(D.Hall & J.Walker) Al should sign the team over to his son and his son should give a coach with a good football mind a full shot at succeding by allowing the coach to pick his players and assitants.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Jedi
He needed a few tries to land the right one bot lucked into Calvin Johnson at the end. Al should have packaged up Kiffin and Fargas and swapped him for Millen and Johnson.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:44 pm
LOL Sapp and Gannon said it. What a joke this franchise is.
The worst fron office in the NFL
The worst owner
The worst stadium
And most importantly, the worst fans (and the ugliest lol)
October 1st, 2008 at 5:44 pm
I cringe everytime I see a 3 man front. At least the last time they managed to get a pick.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Al Davis lied to DHall too about Kiffin’s perceived safety. Remember DHall saying that Kiffin staying was part of his signing? Well get ready for another disgruntled paycheck player. And don’t lay all the blame on DHall either - its the person that signed him that flat out lied to him.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:52 pm
why is everybody talking about mooch coming here?? did he interviewed or something? im lost
October 1st, 2008 at 5:55 pm
So………DDid any of you hear the new audio of tthe dumb azz who hired our new head coach in the break b4 they introduced him?
Here is kind of how it went:
T=Tyrant
H=Herrera
T- So who is going to introduce Cable?
H-I don’t know, why dont you do it?
T-I don’t know anything about him…..Bring me something. I need some information on him, quick…..
Now you may think I am lying, and thats fine, but I am sure BSPN has the audio………FUNNY SHYT…..He has really lost it! He doesn’t even know who he is hiring to cach the team! LOLLOOL….BRIAN Now is your chance!
October 1st, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I cant believe an owner like Al Davis can get away with crap that he is pulling with Lane Kiffen and not paying him. It shows that Al Davis lost reality with the times and somebody needs to take the team away from him. A coach that wants to be the head coach of the Raiders should have head looked at. I’m not a Raider fan and I feel sorry for the Raider nation and they should not be put thru the crap that they are going thru.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Jerry who cares what all these castoff and loser ex-raiders have to say? we gave gannon a chance, he did the best he could - damn good at times, but choked @ the big dance. Phuck Shanarat. Warren Sapp? He was pancaked more than anyone. Lookit Sapp the frikkin turtle, on Dance for the Stars now, oh hell. Wtf you talking about Warren? the man gave you a chance and you blast him for it. I don’t see you handing back the money you made in Oakland though, fatmouth.
I don’t always agree with AD but I don’t need to read this shhhhhhhiiit.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Jedi,
I agree with you. The bottom line is Kiffin took this job as a stepping stone, and he was going after the Arkansas job. He claimed he had no communication with the crypt keeper: perpetuating the myth that Al is closed off and seceretive like a mob boss.
I sided with Lane because i beleived the perception he was creating. After it is all said and done, Lane has not proven anything. Lane has not accomplished anything, he has proven to be self serving and untrustworthy. He dodged the trey wingo question on communication with Al after al made him look like a snake.
Lane was asking for players to build up his roster on the back end, and Al produced: lelie, james martin, and ben troupe all of which were upgrades to the offensive side of the ball.
Lane distanced himself from the defense after the mnf loss: showing his lack of integrity, leadership, and judgement.
I liked the kid, but he is the one that lost out along with the fans. Cable will have his shot if not a line will beout the door to get that job. Al is still the owner, and the players signed on to play for the raiders for big money. time to close the door and move on.
October 1st, 2008 at 5:59 pm
BTW, in case any of you couldn’t tell, I’m Oakglenn, without a doubt.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I expect D Hall to show up and play as well as he is capable. When he signed Al Davis didn’t know that Kiffin was going to continue in his insubordanance to the point that he would have to be fired.
Hall is making a lot of money. More that he would have been likely to get elsewhere. His personal pride should push him to be as good as he can possible be, and if he doesn’t like it here he can ask for a trade and then raise the level of his game to the point that he is worth decent compensation as a trade piece.
October 1st, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Winning will cure all of the locker room problems. If they start winning we will hear all kinds of stories about how the locker room has come together and how much the players enjoy playing together. If they keep loosing we will hear stories about a disfunctional locker room.</