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Cable stressing the positive (yardage)

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 6th, 2008 at 2:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Quick hits from Monday’s post-practice briefing with coach Tom Cable and locker room interviews:

– Cable was pleased to see Justin Fargas back on the field as much for the potential of positive yardage as his positive influence.

Cable sees Fargas as part of the equation when the Raiders are attempting to get first downs and work the clock with a lead.

“In this system, we use the term ‘Gain a blade. Gain a blade of grass.’ Everything’s positive. Typically we don’t have but maybe one, two, maybe three at the most negative runs in a game,” Cable said. “If you look at the last couple, we’ve been at three, four five. (Justin) will go in there and get something positive and make the chains move, somehow, some way. And he really is a terrific finisher. He runs so violent it’s a great change-up with him and Darren and now Michael, it’s a good mix with all of them. But he can definitely, definitely make something positive happen at the end of a game.”

– Fargas said he wasn’t quite 100 percent, but expects to face the Saints Sunday in New Orleans.

“I feel pretty good. I’m going to keep rehabbing it, keep treating it, and get ready to go,” Fargas said.

– Darren McFadden was being held out as a precaution, not because of any sort of setback, Cable said.

“We probably could have done a little with him out there today but we thought, ‘Hey, why not? Let’s just rest it, be smart about it, give him a couple more days off it with tomorrow off and then we’ll go for it Wednesday,’ ” Cable said.

– Cornerback DeAngelo Hall, the only Raiders player who attended the press conference last week during which Al Davis detailed his reasons for firing coach Lane Kiffin, said the switch in coaches is nothing like what went on in Atlanta last season when Bobby Petrino bolted for Arkansas after 13 games.

“When Petrino packed up and left . . . it was hard to put the pieces back together,” Hall said. I don’t think Tom Cable has to do a whole lot in terms of getting us to win games. It’s just a matter of finishing games and not getting into back-and-forths in the newspaper with the owner. I’m sure he can definitely do that.”

Hall said he was having some work done at his home on the player’s day off, was going to work out anyway, and that he had “heard there was something going on, so I’m going to come on down. And I came on down, and the circus was on.”

His reaction? Hall said he was stunned so much has gone on between the owner and the coach, adding, “Maybe I was naive about it.”

Not suprisingly, Hall is standing behind the man who authorized $24.5 million in bonus money on a new contract when he was acquired from the Falcons.

“I definitely think this is still a great franchise,” Hall said. “This is Al’s baby. He treats it like a kid. He wants the best for it. He wants the best the same way I do for my children and I’m sure you guys
do with yours. You can hear the way he talks about the Oakland Raiders. It’s a passion of his. That passion is his life. You have to protect it and cherish what is yours. That’s what he did.”

– Hall said he would have no problem recruiting free agents to come play in Oakland, but inadvertantly touched on one of the problems with a franchise in which the head coach is not viewed as the absolute authority figure with regard to the on-field operation.

“Obviously there’s going to be a whole lot of stuff this offseason with trying to figure out who is going to be the head coach and all that all over again,” Hall said. “From the top down, I like it. We answer to Al. Al knows us personally.

“It’s nice when you have that personal relationship with the owner as opposed to trying to kiss up to every head coach who comes in. That’s when you probably have a problem. When you can sit down and talk to the owner about any problem, it makes it a little easier.”

– It remains to be seen how it will all play out Sunday, but Cable sounds as if he wants legitimate balance. Kiffin never fully trusted his passing game, and would occasionally throw the ball in clusters _ he called for six passes in eight plays early against the Bills _ before reining it back in.

“I don’t want to go out there and have drives where we threw it three times and we’re out or we ran it three times and we’re out. I don’t want that anymore,” Cable said. “I want to see balance. I want to see us take our shots down the field, and I want to see us get the lead, then I want us to turn it over to that backfield.”

– Tight end John Madsen was surprised to find himself back in a Raiders uniform. One week after being inactive for the first time since early in his rookie season, he was inactive against the Chiefs.

He was informed of his relief while getting dressed following the Friday practice as the Raiders were getitng ready to depart for Buffalo.

“I thought it was the end of my Raider career, actually,” Madsen said. “It kind of came out of the blue.”

Madsen said he had a workout with Baltimore and had another scheduled for this weekend in Cleveland.

– Ben Troupe, the tight end signed when Madsen was cut, could practice Wednesday, Cable said. Troup has practiced one time since Sept. 19, injuring his foot halfway through his first practice.

The Raiders continued to take it easy with cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (elbow) safety Gibril Wilson (back), cornerback Stanford Routt (ankle) and are expecting all to go Wednesday.

– As good as second-year man Johnnie Lee Higgins has been, rookie Tyvon Branch will get some work returning kickoffs.

“That was the plan originally before the injury,” Cable said. “Johnnie’s done a terrific job but one thing that Branch is going to give us now, he’s going to give us some depth and he’s going to give us a chance to have two returners that we feel good about. He’s a super fast guy that will hit it and hit it quickly. So I think that’s a big bonus for us.”

Among kickoff return specialists with 15 or more returns, Higgins ranks six in the NFL with a 26.8 average and a long of 69 yards.

– Hall of Fame defensive end, Raider legend and Fox analyst Howie Long thinks Kiffin shouldn’t have been surprised regarding Davis’ level of involvement.

“I played there 13 years and 95% of the time Al Davis was a great owner,” Long said on Fox NFL Sunday. “It’s been 15 years since I’ve been part of the organization so I can’t speak to the day-to-day operations. But if you’re Lane Kiffin, you should know what you are getting into. He has access to a guy like Jon Gruden who coached there. Don’t be surprised when the owner who coached in the league and built three world championships gives input on a day-in-day-out basis on the goings on of the football team. Don’t be shocked by that.”

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382 Responses to “Cable stressing the positive (yardage)”

  1. Dakota Says:

    lakers rule

  2. raiders4o8 Says:

    1st

  3. raiders4o8 Says:

    2nd

  4. raiders4o8 Says:

    Lakers all the bay baby

  5. raiders4o8 Says:

    way*

  6. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Lakers all the way to nowhere

  7. Oh Brother Says:

    Give me a break.

  8. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Kobe= talented player who still hasn’t won without Shaq. How do you let you team get blown by 40 to get eliminated? Too funny when people give the MJ comparisons

  9. Dakota Says:

    D. Hall:

    “It’s nice when you have that personal relationship with the owner as opposed to trying to kiss up to every head coach who comes in. That’s when you probably have a problem. When you can sit down and talk to the owner about any problem, it makes it a little easier.”

    ___________________________________________

    If D. Hall likes something it means that it is probably a BAD thing! Fuking tool. Oh yes, it is so nice being able to gripe to the owner when the mean coaches ask me to play within 15 yards of the WRs!

    Man I can’t stand that guy.

  10. D Hall Says:

    I can’t stand you, hick.

  11. Dakota Says:

    SouthTexasRaider Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
    doing good, i just got home from work and felt the urge to chime in.
    hey hows your boy doing? is he still without power?

    __________________________________________________

    STR,

    He is doing great…had his first football game! He played WR, CB and S. One tackle. About like D. Hall I guess!

    They have had power for about 2 and a half weeks now. They live near a school, so they were on a priority grid thankfully.

  12. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    I care less about Dhall’s comments he better be ready sunday dammit

  13. raiders4o8 Says:

    ya i guess that was all kobe’s fault right? u will lose by 40 if ur playing against great defense & ur defense is playing like the worst of all time

  14. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    More excuses for Kobe. Have you ever seen MJ get blown by 40 when it was on the line? You laker fans kill me with all the excusing you guys do for Kobe. Hey how about up 24 in the 2nd half of game 4? Yeah sure a great leader never loses that game

  15. Elway's Teeth Says:

    So it sounds like Cable’s gameplan is similar to Lane’s, If we have a lead, try to milk the clock with runs, and then watch the lead slip away….let’s not try to move the ball and score more points. New caoch, same results, comin’ up!

  16. raiders4o8 Says:

    i cant wait to c 3 headed monster back on field. if we had all 3 Running backs healthy for buffalo & san diego, our record would have been 3-1

  17. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    post 15………..well positive insight there

  18. MR Says:

    Nobody here ever discusses the news Jerry is reporting on. Maybe that’s because Raider news gets more depressing by the minute?

    What’s up, Brien. Where the hoes at?

  19. Dakota Says:

    Who cares about Kobe? Dude as a busted hand and still lead his team to the finals. I am excited to see Bynum and Gasol throwing lobs to each other…high/low all night long baby!

    First preseason game is Tuesday vs Jazz.

  20. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    post 16……..regardless the teams should be sitting at 3-1. Kiffin’s offensive playcalling did suck

  21. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Nevermind the hoes right now MR………its funny I see YOU nowadays want to meet people for confrontations. Damn 408 must have gotten under your skin

  22. MR Says:

    Only thing Howie said that made sense:

    “It’s been 15 years since I’ve been part of the organization so I can’t speak to the day-to-day operations.”

  23. Blog Posters Says:

    All of you people who post below Jerry’s articles every day are morons. Please stay away from other Raider related sites. Thanks.

  24. raiders4o8 Says:

    yah right brien have jordan ever went against 3 superstars like pierce, garnett, allen in the finals , did the bulls ever played against a great defense like the celtics in the finals ?

  25. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Kobe is a chump until he wins a title being the lead guy.

  26. MR Says:

    He did get under my skin, Brien. Bad day. I don’t know what to say. Saw him posting under my name and I flipped. I apologize for it. It’s beneath me. 408 would probably throw me through a wall.

  27. Elway's Teeth Says:

    Brien, All I’m saying is I’m tired of watching the Raiders try to protect a lead in the 4th Qtr instead of trying to extend a lead and / or make the lead insurmountable. SCORE MORE POINTS! Don’t leave the game in the hands of our defense or the officials.

  28. Dakota Says:

    Brien,

    My money is on our offense getting worse. If Cable does Al’s bidding and starts trying to throw deep with those turnstile tackles and those cement footed WRs, watch out baby….sack, sack, sack and fumble, int int int fumble sack sack sack…

    It could get ugly pretty quick.

  29. Voldemort Says:

    we suck, welcome back to the circus Madsen, I was a bit sad to see another under-utilized playmaker go AGAIN. Anyway, I hope the rumor that 408 posted about “the mystery man” who Al spoke of as a possible new member of the front office, is not Matt Millen, as was rumored in that article. However, it would’t surprize me at all. As of right now, we are in a tight competition with the Lions for the laughing stock of the league, it would be just like Al to hire someone who is giving him competition, (or fire him, depending on the circumstane). So, why not? Let’s make it official Al, let’s bring in Matt Millen and make us the sole laughing stock of the league! Where are all my Al supporters? Who’s with me?

  30. MR Says:

    Brien, so are you saying Kiffin was fired for performance?

  31. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    So it was great defense in that 24 point lead being blown at home?

  32. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR= spin master! I think you will be taking over for Bill O when his time is done. Fox News could use someone like you

  33. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Elway’s Teeth I can see what you are saying. I think the team will still play hard. Now whether that translates to win is another story

  34. MR Says:

    I’d rather work for the Raiders than Fox News.

  35. MR Says:

    Brien, do you believe Kiffin was fired for performance? It’s a question, not spin.

  36. Dakota Says:

    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int

    coach fired

    fans hate the QB

    new coach

    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int

    new QB signed as a FA

    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int
    sack fumble int

    AND THE BEAT GOES ON BABY

    GO AL DAVIS!

  37. dan Says:

    Howie is right about Kiff. Plus all that BS about lawsuits is so typicval. Remember how Clemons was going to sue his personal trainer? Kiff could sue for his $, and probably will lose, like Shanarat. However, he will not sue for slander or defamation, because he has no case.

    Cable is the man. Agreed Deangelo’s comments aren’t great, but I have hard time believing he chooses to stay so far back on h.

  38. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Dakota its up to these damn players as well. Kiffin did some dumb shhhhhit but the players are ones out there. Gotta make winning plays

  39. Voldemort Says:

    Brien
    you should just put (Moron) next to your name instead. It gives the same message, and it’s shorter.

  40. ChargersChoke Says:

    One of the fastest DBs in the league is playing soft coverage most of the time and he got a $25 million bonus to do so? Man I could cover those WRs just as good for only $1 million!

  41. MR Says:

    Not answering the question is closer to spin. Answer my question or we’re putting the gloves on.

  42. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR………Kiffin was fired because he wanted to be

  43. MR Says:

    Here’s what Howie’s right about, Dan:

    “It’s been 15 years since I’ve been part of the organization so I can’t speak to the day-to-day operations.”

  44. Nnamdi21 Says:

    “His reaction? Hall said he was stunned so much has gone on between the owner and the coach, adding, “Maybe I was naive about it.”

    Alot of media types are STILL being naive.

    Jerry’s at least presenting other sides. He’s reporting, no speculating. Thats OUR job.

  45. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR you aren’t putting any gloves on…………use our bare knuckles

  46. MR Says:

    Then why are you making a case against his performance? What coach could turn around our ‘06 disaster in a year and a half? Answer, or it’s me and you with the gloves on at the next game.

  47. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Voldemort lol……….I pity people like you

  48. MR Says:

    No gloves?

    Eh.

    Alright, I’m just kidding, man. Come on. Answer the question, though.

  49. raiderbub1 Says:

    Now that the circus is over…lets see if we lay down or come up…3 out of the next 4 are winnable games (NO, NYJ, BAL, ATL), are we going to be 4-4 at the halfway point or 2-6?

    The main thing that needs to happen this season over everything else is the development of the JaMarcus. He only has 5 starts under his belt, so he is the one that needs to develop.

  50. ChargersChoke Says:

    Once they draft some OL studs from some SEC or PAC 10 schools we’ll be fine!

  51. raiders4o8 Says:

    i dont think our offense will get worse remember cable always had high scoring offenses in college

  52. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Come on MR………post 46 is the awful. Just total crap. You’re better than that

  53. raiderbub1 Says:

    Yes, I wrote the JaMarcus…I am not so brilliant sometimes!

  54. MR Says:

    # raiderbub1 Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    “Now that the circus is over…”

    What world are you living in?

    …………

    Sunday’s Scoops: Will Kiffin sue Davis?
    by Jay Glazer

    Updated: October 5, 2008, 5:56 PM EST

    Raiders owner Al Davis fired his head coach Lane Kiffin this week, confirming long-running rumors the coach would be out by the team’s bye week. While Kiffin is now gone, the story will continue.

    Kiffin is filing a grievance against the Raiders for the remainder of his pay but it may or may not stop there.

    FOX Sports has learned that some close to Kiffin are advising him about the possibility of filing a multi-million-dollar defamation lawsuit against Davis. The suit would be the result of the Tuesday attack in which Davis lobbed several well-placed accusations about Kiffin, calling him a liar and blasting him for what he basically deemed insubordination.

    It’s just the latest in a long string of sad side stories that has mired the Raiders for years. But this week wasn’t just sad for fans of the black and silver but instead painted a sad, sad picture of two franchises in dire need of an emergency face lift.

    Soap operas? To put it mildly and that’s just based on the things we’ve heard and read on the surface. Information from things behind the scenes makes both situations even more disappointing.

    But which team seems to be in more disarray? Which one has sunk lower? The Raiders used to be a slam dunk but the Rams are now clearly catching up.

    Take their firing of Scott Linehan. Sources say that the Rams ownership actually consulted a local PR firm to assist them in handling their decision of whether or not to fire the coach. A local PR firm? After they came to their decision, ownership phoned Linehan at 1 a.m. waking him up from his sleep in order to fire him.

    The executives said they felt they needed to end their relationship face-to-face … at 1 a.m.! When Linehan agreed and went to give them his address in order to meet, they asked if he could get in his car and drive the 30-minute trek to get fired at the hotel the owners were staying in.

    The Rams, to put it mildly, are a mess. Word is that team executives Jay Zigmunt and John Shaw will both be out after the year. Personnel-wise their stars are up there in age and then there’s the huge question mark with ownership.

    But are they worse than the Raiders? This week Oakland put on quite the show. Lane Kiffin is no longer the head coach of the Oakland Raiders but the soap opera that has culminated in his firing is sure to have lasting effects.

    The low point of the entire affair was the Raiders attacking other reporters’ integrity as well as Davis revealing to the world that Kiffin did not want to draft JaMarcus Russell. Who cares? What did that possibly accomplish other than the to make Russell feel uncomfortable. Yes, Kiffin wanted to sign Jeff Garcia, then draft Calvin Johnson in the first round of last year’s draft, then Trent Edwards in the second. However, since that time Kiffin and Russell have become pretty tight. Those close to Russell say the young QB was very fond of his coach and felt the two had made tremendous progress.

    Again, all it did was make Russell feel uncomfortable and had zero bearing on the end result. Coach didn’t want to draft a player but eventually made him the starter? Happens all the time.

    This all happened on the tail end of a couple of weeks that saw each week question whether or not Kiffin would be gone before the bye. Then there was the situation where a Raiders executive got into a heated exchange with a reporter, all captured on camera.

    Shame, shame, shame. Although if there is any way to make humor of either affair, how great would it be if Kiffin sued Davis, was awarded a huge settlement and then used some of the bounty to pay Mike Shanahan, John Fox, Bill Callahan, Norv Turner and all other coaches who’ve ever had a problem with Davis. Now, that would be classic!

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8643404/

  55. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Raiderbub- this isn’t the 9th grade English class as some on this blog try to make it. You’re cool but your post is dead on

  56. MR Says:

    Brien, it’s just a question laying on the table for you. If Kiffin wasn’t fired for performance, why are you making a case against his performance? Who in this league could fix Al Davis’s ‘06 disaster in a year and a half? Who? Non boxing mother f’r.

  57. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Players play this game. Coach can only do so much. Execution is key. Kiffin is gone, thank god so let’s move on

  58. raiders4o8 Says:

    laughing stock of the league ??? plzzz our record is better than 5 teams right now..

  59. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Boxing? What’s the point in that. MMA or just plain old streetfighting will work for me

  60. MR Says:

    Brien, how have we upgraded over Kiffin? Give some examples.

  61. Nnamdi21 Says:

    No duh Howie.

    Kiffin’s first clue should’ve been the wording ON THE CONTRACT HE SIGNED!!!

    Davis mentioned it in “the Letter.”

    “Further, your contract is quite clear that you work “subject to the direction and supervision of the General Partner’’ and that the General Partner has the “exclusive right to do all things, ”

    Heeeellooo.

  62. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR I wont answer such idiotic questions like that. Think about what you are asking my friend. The first question is as ridiculous just as the person who is asking it

  63. MR Says:

    Either boxing or dominos, Brien. Take your pick.

  64. raiders4o8 Says:

    Media will alwayz make us look bad no matter how many games we win

  65. MR Says:

    I know you won’t answer, Brien. I’m only asking you for everyone else to see you duck the questions, thus killing your credibility.

  66. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    I don’t box buddy. Rules are involved and you use gloves unless we are going John Sullivan

  67. MR Says:

    Yeh Raiders 408, it’s the media making our 1 win look bad…

  68. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    credibility on a blog? lol ok MR you are really tripping now

  69. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    dakota good to hear your boy is ok now.

  70. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    only a moron asks why anyone makes a case against someone’s performance in the NFL

  71. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR, you must have forgotten the meds today

  72. MR Says:

    The last time we did win, Raiders4o8, the media treated us just fine. Only the local press was killing us with accusations of copying the Bill Walsh offense. But it was weak because if they can’t win with their own offense, then they’ve got no room calling out someone else for winning with it. Besides, Chucky ran the ball way too much to be compared to Walsh. Those accusations of us copying the whiners only got to Al Davis, evidently, because he’s the only one who wanted Gruden gone.

  73. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Al didn’t want Gruden gone. The problem is Al punking Gruden in front of his dad after the afc title game

  74. D. Hall Says:

    I don’t like answering to coaches, damit! I wanna go straight to the top. Stepping over peoples heads on the way there.

    Coaches? Pffft!

  75. Dakota Says:

    She touched my peppy Steve!

  76. MR Says:

    Brien, so, you don’t have one single example as to how Cable is an upgrade over Kiffin? That’s what everyone reading this sees, Brien. And, yes, there is such thing as credibility on a blog. That’s why you’re here, shilling for Al. You’re trying to make the Raiders look good. Poorly, at that.

  77. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Al offered Gruden a contract that would have paid him about the same as TB

  78. MR Says:

    Brien, you’re f’n stupid. I’m out of here. Later.

  79. Dakota Says:

    Al offered Gruden a chance to continue being sheeet on…I can’t understand why he wanted out!

  80. Nnamdi21 Says:

    FOX sports? Seriously?

    Ugh…

    “FOX Sports has learned that some close to Kiffin are advising”

    “Some” close to Kiffin and they’ve learned. Bull****. Uncomfirmed rumor mongering. More like a media wish list. They’d love nothing more than for this to drag on. Its much easier to print the smae story over and over again.

    1. Say someting vaguely clever or cute about how “Al Davis is at it again” or “Just when you thought it couldn’t get crazier / worse / wackier ect.”

    2. Quote unnamed “sources” and then state your unfounded biased rumor mongering opinion.

    3. Mention the 5 yr win loss record.

    4. Proclaim ever lasting doom.

    Yawn…

  81. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Everyone sees whatever they want to see. It is up for their own interpretation. The upgrade is Cable not calling the plays like Kiffin did. Another upgrade is a coach not throwing other people under the bus and not taking responsibility. Leaders dont make excuses

  82. Realist Says:

    LOL @ post 79!

  83. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR, your life revolves around Al Davis. You need Al to make your miserable existence matter.

  84. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    SUNDAY WILL BE OUR TURN-AROUND WIN FOR THE PLAYERS AND THE FRANCHISE!

  85. Dakota Says:

    Leaders do not coach for the Oakland Raiders…or if they do they get shipped out PDQ.

  86. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR you dont know about Al doing that to Gruden after the afc title game in 2000? That is where it soured. That is embarrassing to get punked in front of you pops and you are a grown man as well

  87. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    SouthTexas- good stuff!!!

  88. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Leaders are accountable and blame themselves for own downfall

  89. Dakota Says:

    Loyal Kiffin family throw out into the streets by Al Davis:

    http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/12/09/sp_wives_kiffin_074.jpg

    she is fuqin hot.

  90. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Good job Al!! Sent that punk out on the streets. Loyalty is everything

  91. Dakota Says:

    WTF? “thrown”….damn, I relly ned too usse mi speelcheck!

  92. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    B-tch too skinny. You can tell she got square cheeks

  93. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Dakota you may also need a heart check for your Cubbies

  94. Nnamdi21 Says:

    81. Makes a couple points.

    fact is, we lost those games due to conservative play calling on offense (Kiffin’s calls apparently) and piss poor substitutions at critical junctures. (Again, Kiffin’s call. Wasn’t he supposed to be really good at that by the way?)

    The whole deal with Kiff is sketchy.

    F’ him.

    He’s gone, moving on.

    You can bet, this whole media fracass has Oakland right where Al wants them.

    In that locker room, all they got is each other.. No ones gonna understand what its like to go thru Oakland, so you have a unique bond.

    Everyone hatin’ bashing, laughin’ and all you can do is take it out on your unlucky opponents…

  95. Dakota Says:

    http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/tv2/programmes/greys_anatomy/greys_anatomy_knight_real_d.jpg

    Lane kinda looks like that gay guy on Grey’s Anatomy….

  96. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR is a moron…….he asked what upgrade is Cable over Kiffin. Shhhhhhit Kiffin didnt want to be here and Cable does. MR is losing it

  97. Dakota Says:

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/weekendatlanes.jpg

  98. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Brien<———-never watches Grey’s anatomy

  99. Dakota Says:

    This from a REAL Raider, not fat a$$ Sapp.

    “I played there 13 years and 95% of the time Al Davis was a great owner,” Long said on Fox NFL Sunday. “It’s been 15 years since I’ve been part of the organization so I can’t speak to the day-to-day operations. But if you’re Lane Kiffin, you should know what you are getting into. He has access to a guy like Jon Gruden who coached there. Don’t be surprised when the owner who coached in the league and built three world championships gives input on a day-in-day-out basis on the goings on of the football team. Don’t be shocked by that.”

  100. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Nnamdi………if the players play to their best ability then we win. If they dont then we lose. Players play this game but idiot coaches dont help in the matter

  101. Dakota Says:

    Brien <———- watches Handy Manny.

  102. Dakota Says:

    Troll, what is Handy Manny?

  103. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Dakota…….if I go to a kkk rally and get my ass beat, didn’t I know what I was getting myself into?

  104. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Handy Manny?

  105. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Brien<——–watches Always Sunny in Philadelphia

  106. Reggie Lewis Says:

    Howie Long = Real Raider
    Warren Sapp = C#ck Sucker

  107. Dakota Says:

    Howie is my all time fav Raider…but even he was pissed at Al for the Marcus Allen fiasco.

  108. Jamal Says:

    Brien,
    get a life and stop writing dedicating your depressing life to writing on this message board. bum.

  109. MR Says:

    raiders4o8 Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
    1st

    Dum azz you were 2nd. What’s the deal with being first? Do you get to yank on Al’s schlong if you’re first?

  110. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Jamal and then why are you here?

  111. Reggie Lewis Says:

    Dakota
    Howie kept it real. He said 95% of the time Al was cool.

    Way to step up D. Hall!

  112. Dakota Says:

    Al Davis: Hey Allen! Did chew fuq my wife? Did chew fuq my wife? Huh, did ya?

    Allen: What the hell are you talkin’ about Al?

    Al Davis: Fahhq you Allen. I need loyalty from my playhuhs. I am gonna ruin ya.

    Allen: What? I am fuqing OJ’s wife, not yours!

    Al Davis: Herrera get me Rohga Craig’s phone numba and Eric Dickerson’s too.

  113. Dakota Says:

    Brien <———— watches Philadelphia Freedom.

  114. Reggie Lewis Says:

    And who cares who is first or second post!! WTF is that all about?

  115. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Dakota lol………Mucus didnt smash on Al’s wife

  116. Reggie Lewis Says:

    Allen and OJ’s wife were crack heads.

  117. KoolKell Says:

    This is why the Raiders are the dumbest team in football, and are the annual leaders in penalties:

    “From the top down, I like it. We answer to Al. Al knows us personally.

    “It’s nice when you have that personal relationship with the owner as opposed to trying to kiss up to every head coach who comes in. That’s when you probably have a problem. When you can sit down and talk to the owner about any problem, it makes it a little easier.”

  118. Dakota Says:

    Brien <————— smashes on Carol Davis, with Mark watching.

  119. MR Says:

    raiders4o8 Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
    i cant wait to c 3 headed monster back on field. if we had all 3 Running backs healthy for buffalo & san diego, our record would have been 3-1

    if, if if if if if if if if if if if if if if ififif

  120. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    post 113……..pitiful. Try again

  121. Andrews Mom Says:

    I heard OJ’s oldest kid did the killing and the Juice was just trying to cover it up.

  122. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Calling OJ’s wife a crackhead is an understatement

  123. McRaider Says:

    Whoever thinks that Al davis is the one that has D hall playing 10 yards off wr’s, is an idiot. Davis’ favorite coverage is bump & run.

    It’s D. Hall choosing the play off and the coaches not checking him on it. If Al was talking to him about that he would tell him to tighten up his coverage and play no less than 5 yards off.

  124. Dakota Says:

    Brien…there is a Dakota troll lurking…you know which ones are really me.

  125. Dakota Says:

    Brien <———– watches Brokeback Mountain. And he even reenact’s it on the weekends.

  126. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Andrew Mom……yeah I heard that before but I dont know. I know his son had mental issues

  127. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Real Dakota……..yes we have a troll.

  128. Dakota Says:

    Actually the troll is kind of funny. Sorry Brien maybe I will claim his posts.

  129. MR Says:

    Who is this phony azz MR posting under my name?

    How long have you been a Raider fan?
    How long have you been posting on this blog?
    How many other screen names do you post under?
    When was the last time you’ve been caught in either the closet or bathroom master-baiting?
    How big was the biggest schlong that you ever wrapped your lips around?
    Are you really married?
    Was your wife really visiting family in Lodi over the weekend?

    Only the real MR will know the answers.

  130. Cole Ford Says:

    OJ, I hope you get gang raped in prison.

  131. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Troll boy and your movie is TransAmerica

  132. Dakota Says:

    Oakglenn is the BIGGEST troll of all.

  133. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Troll boy<———hero is Rudy Galindo

  134. Brien Says:

    No, I am the biggest troll ever.

  135. MR Says:

    raiders4o8 Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
    laughing stock of the league ??? plzzz our record is better than 5 teams right now..

    Name em.

  136. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Troll boy<——-is excited for Halloween so he can dress as a man

  137. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Brien<——-appreciates Trolls. Thank you for letting me know how relevant I am

  138. Dakota Says:

    Yes, OJs son killed her; and

    we didn’t land on the moon; and

    the CIA had Kennedy shot; and

    there is a alien space ship stored in NM; and

    the twin towers we attacked by George Bush; and

    ghosts are real (wait, they might be!)

  139. Brien (Al Davis Supportuh) Says:

    Troll boy<—that I am.

  140. Chaos Says:

    LOL

  141. Chaos Says:

    Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    Troll boy<——-is excited for Halloween so he can dress as a man

    That was funny shyt monkey boy!

  142. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
    This is why the Raiders are the dumbest team in football, and are the annual leaders in penalties:
    ——————————————————-

    hey bro, if thats what you think of the raiders…….

    FIND ANOTHER FAHQIN TEAM TO CHEER FOR THEN AND BE LABLED A WAGON JUMPER!

  143. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    post 139…….just awful

  144. Dakota Says:

    Wagon jumper? No need to get racist STR.

  145. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    monkey?

  146. Chaos Says:

    HAHA…..????

  147. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Brien<———-grown ass man…….. not a boy

  148. Chaos Says:

    Oh OK. Monkey Man!

  149. MR Says:

    Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
    Al offered Gruden a contract that would have paid him about the same as TB

    He would have been a fool to stay in Oakland. Tampa has better weather, better owners and better women.

  150. Chaos Says:

    Sorry. Didn’t mean to disrespect your manly image!

  151. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Tampa’s women do not look better than Oakland’s

  152. Chaos Says:

    crickets……crickets…….

  153. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    monkey? excuse me

  154. Cole Ford Says:

    No one should listen to Howie Long. His brain has been tainted by FOX and sitting next to Bradshaw too long.

  155. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    LOL, i wasnt trying to be racist with the wagon jumper…. i shoulda say bandwagon jumper.

  156. Chaos Says:

    LOL……

    Women from Oakland.

    http://www2.oakland.edu/ouws/files/grad1.jpg

  157. Dakota Says:

    3-D TV is on the way…soon we will all be able to take a swing at Rob Ryan in the 4th quarter! (Yes, he will probably still be our DHC in 2020 when this sheet hits the market).

    http://www.sonyinsider.com/2008/10/06/3d-holographic-tvs-very-possible-and-will-happen-by-2020/

  158. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Howie knows loyalty is everything

  159. Chaos Says:

    Women from Tampa Bay

    http://www.networkexecwomen.com/networking-tampa-16.jpg

  160. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    there is nothing wrong with women from Oakland. Better than those plastic hoes in LA

  161. MR Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
    Loyal Kiffin family throw out into the streets by Al Davis:

    http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/12/09/sp_wives_kiffin_074.jpg

    she is fuqin hot.

    Notice what the kids are wearing?

  162. Chaos Says:

    Women from the OC

    http://images.smarter.com/blogs/Los%20Angeles%20Angels%20Of%20Anaheim%20Women’s%20Rhinestone%20Foil%20V-neck%20Top.jpg

  163. Dakota Says:

    Time to go home.

    Go Lakers!

  164. Chaos Says:

    Whats wron with being a monkey? Rilla likes it.

  165. Chaos Says:

    Dakota……Stay, watch……

  166. MR Says:

    Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
    B-tch too skinny. You can tell she got square cheeks

    Your more into the buts sisters aren’t you brian?

  167. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Chaos……your comedy game needs to be drastically refined. You have never been funny. You should just stop now.

  168. Chaos Says:

    Brian<—————–likes them round in the cheeks

    http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/boeyjenjamin/bigbooty.jpg

  169. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Go Lakers right into your Jettas, you little punks

  170. Norco_Bob Says:

    yo brien,..wattup.

  171. Chaos Says:

    I just want to see how long they leave the posts up.

  172. Los Malosos Says:

    De Angelo Hall is numero 1 baby!
    Sam Williams is sure fire Pro Bowler!
    Javon Walker to the HOF!
    The 31 other teams are kicking themselves for not hiring Cable as HC!
    That dude Kiff was a con man, a con artist! 99% of the stuff that came out of his mouth were lies.
    Tom Flores thinks we’ll go 8-8. That pesimist POS!
    It was Kiffin who didn’t want to release Jordan.
    Al Davis ages better than french wine!
    It’s all Marcus Allens fault!

  173. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    And Chaos you like flat asses I assume

  174. Al 4 Prez Says:

    175th

  175. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    sup Bob!!!

  176. KoolKell Says:

    Bill Parcells, turning Miami around in 1 year is a great example of what competent professional NFL management means to a football team.

    Take notice Cultists, you can still be saved.

  177. Norco_Bob Says:

    looks like Rays goin forward,….still a few innings left though. Dye just went deep.

  178. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Al Davis= greatest ever

  179. Norco_Bob Says:

    chillin brien,..headin to the river here in a bit,..takin the dog,..couple beers,…a roach.

  180. Chaos Says:

    Nah not completely flat bro. Needs to have a little curve. I got that one covered. I am more of a big nipple dude!

  181. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Bob……..Raiders going forward. But the haters dont want them too

  182. Norco_Bob Says:

    brien Im hoping brees blows a knee tonight…bush too.

  183. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    well chaos is proof we all have our own sick fetishes

  184. Norco_Bob Says:

    Ya Im hip about these haters bro,..but they dont go to games like we do.,..or tailgate like we do.

  185. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    The Raiders need Duece to sit out. Duece is a mutha

  186. MR Says:

    Reggie Lewis Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
    Dakota
    Howie kept it real. He said 95% of the time Al was cool.

    Way to step up D. Hall!

    He also said that was 15 years ago. Al’s brain has been doing a lot of fermenting since then.

  187. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Bob of course most on this blog never go

  188. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Al is the man!!!

  189. Norco_Bob Says:

    talk to dave lately brien?..i heard from him today.

  190. Andrews Mom Says:

    How many times have the fins tried and failed with head coaches before they let Bill have complete control?

    How many “Bill Parcells” are out there right now?

  191. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Naw I havent…….what’s going on with him?

  192. Norco_Bob Says:

    I think I got dave cooled down enough to drive in for JETS game,…trying to get major tailgate goin for that one,…think he was basically punishing me…too ka game off to prove some odd point.

  193. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Andrews Mom………..please stop asking logical questions? The haters cant take it

  194. Chaos Says:

    Hey Brian,

    Wern’t you in here last month talking about fetishes too? Something about feet with athletes feet?

    http://www.scholl.co.il/art_images/catalog/87/athletes-foot_03.jpg

  195. MR Says:

    Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
    Tampa’s women do not look better than Oakland’s

    That’s because you like em fat and ugly.

  196. MR Says:

    Chaos Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
    LOL……

    Women from Oakland.

    http://www2.oakland.edu/ouws/files/grad1.jpg

    That’s the way brian likes em.

  197. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    THE WIN ON SUNDAY IS GOING TO BE A WIN FOR THE PLAYERS AND THE WIN THAT TURNS THIS FRANCHISE AROUND!!!

    FOR THE SEASON 8-8………MAYBE EVEN 9-7

    WE WILL BE ABLE WITH CABLE…..
    RAIDER NATION WILL RISE AGAIN!

  198. Andrews Mom Says:

    Its like answering the Cable - Kiffin question.

    One has experiance as a head coach in college as well as lots of NFL experiance.

    The other has a pedigree.

  199. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    The mental brainwashing in the USA makes people think that Blonde hair and a skinny body is the highest form of beauty………just not true

  200. MR Says:

    SouthTexasRaider Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
    THE WIN ON SUNDAY IS GOING TO BE A WIN FOR THE PLAYERS AND THE WIN THAT TURNS THIS FRANCHISE AROUND!!!

    FOR THE SEASON 8-8………MAYBE EVEN 9-7

    WE WILL BE ABLE WITH CABLE…..
    RAIDER NATION WILL RISE AGAIN!

    Nah we will still be mable with cable and lucky to get 4 wins.

  201. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    post 237…..terrible

  202. Miguel Shannahan Says:

    41-14

  203. Miguel Shannahan Says:

    20-65

  204. texas raider Says:

    Memo to Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis: Jim Fassel would be a good fit
    by Paul Needell/The Star-Ledger
    Saturday October 04, 2008, 12:28 PM

    Mike Shanahan. Art Shell. Mike White. Joe Bugel. Jon Gruden. Bill Callahan. Norv Turner. Shell again. Lane Kiffin. Tom Cable.

    The once-brilliant football mind of Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis is now on its 10th head coach in the last 21 seasons; fifth in the six seasons since Callahan coached Oakland to the Super Bowl in ‘02. The cryptkeeper propped himself up for an ugly news conference on Tuesday meant to embarrass Kiffin while introducing Cable, the team’s offensive line coach, as the interim choice for the rest of the season. Is anything more “interim” than this job?
    This glorious franchise and its “Commitment to Excellence” has been a laughingstock for far too long now. There will be no sign of a turnaround until Davis, 79, sells the team or backs away from the day-to-day operations. Nobody is holding their breath on either count.

    Free of charge, we’ve come up with the ideal marriage of convenience for Davis, who is considered arsenic to almost any viable candidate on earth. And we know Davis has the guy’s phone number because he called our man on Thursday night to chat about things.

    Former Giants coach Jim Fassel, who’s been out of the NFL since 2006, is the perfect choice for Davis. Fassel’s worked for Davis before as Oakland’s quarterbacks coach in ‘95 and is eager to land his second NFL head-coaching job. He was fired by the Giants in ‘04 after seven seasons, including three playoff trips and one Super Bowl loss.

    “I want to get back,” Fassel told me last night from his Arizona home. “I want to go somewhere the organization wants to win. And I know Al Davis wants to win. I know he does.”

    Davis just has a strange way of showing it. Fassel, 59, knows all the horror stories about the meddlesome Davis. Heck, Fassel’s son, John, is the Raiders assistant special-teams coach, so he has a direct line to what those on Kiffin’s staff have been through.

    “I can only say that the year I was there I never got any interference,” said Fassel, a finalist for the Redskins’ job that went to Jim Zorn in January. “Nothing like that. I have no complaints with how Al treated me. He treated me very well.”

    In theory, Fassel’s reputation as a quarterback guru should appeal to Davis. Central to Oakland’s future is second-year QB JaMarcus Russell, the first pick overall in the ‘07 NFL Draft. See how it all fits?

    “Al knows me,” Fassel said. “He knows my work.”

    Most people are sure to run and hide if Davis comes calling after the season. Fassel understands all the reasons why. In the end, though, they just may need each other. A marriage of convenience, indeed.

  205. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    So MR, back to you………how’s the dating scene in Sactown? You getting better results finally?

  206. MR Says:

    Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
    MR how’s that dating scene going for ya in Sactown?

    brian, it’s more about quality than it is about quanity. If I dated the type of ho’s you do it would probably be so loose in there I wouldn’t feel a thing anyway.

  207. CR Raider Says:

    When the things goes wrong is when you really know who is real Raider and Howie, Tim Brown , John Madden etc respect the Raiders and they are a Raiders but when you hear Warren Sapp and Rich Gannon talking garbage about the team you know they only be a Money Raiders. Go Raiders.

  208. MR Says:

    CR Raider Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
    When the things goes wrong is when you really know who is real Raider and Howie, Tim Brown , John Madden etc respect the Raiders and they are a Raiders but when you hear Warren Sapp and Rich Gannon talking garbage about the team you know they only be a Money Raiders. Go Raiders.

    Those guys never played anywhere else….to them working for Al seems normal because they don’t know the difference.

  209. Bleeding Silver & Black Says:

    I’m still puzzled. With all of you who know so much about running an entire football organization, including the writers, former players, analysts, WRITERS, journalists who have never played the game - someone please show me the model organization in the NFL (that hasn’t been OFFICIALLY, AS IN, NOT BEEN LEGALLY ON PAPER WITH LAWYERS AND STUFF, been fined for cheating)

  210. 408RAIDER Says:

    WTF MOD?

  211. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    MR thinks he real knowledge by doing a copy and paste of someones comment and then putting a stupid remark after it…….

    dude, get some real sense

  212. Raider0525 Says:

    whats going on with the Mod? Are you guys having problems?

  213. 408RAIDER Says:

    Damn they dogged you out Brien! Mod dude sucks

  214. Cole Ford Says:

    Jerry is a fascist.

  215. 408RAIDER Says:

    the mod just took away everything from about 4:30 on… we were in the 320’s or so

  216. Raider0525 Says:

    wow really, why would they do that? They should worry about kicking people out of here instead…lol

  217. Cole Ford Says:

    F*ck you moderator. This is America, not China you f*cking communists.

  218. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Whats up 0525?

  219. Raider0525 Says:

    oh now my night is complete….Albert is back..lol, what’s up Albert, you fuc head…lol

  220. KoolKell Says:

    First rule of sanity, Stay in touch with Reality.

    Raiders are 20-64, 4 Head coaches in 4 years.

    The media had nothing to do with it.

  221. KoolKell Says:

    Well Tom Cable at least publicly, seems to understand in order to be good offensively, you need to be balanced. At least you need to force the Defensive coaches to guess what you’re going to do, rather than know.

  222. 408RAIDER Says:

    games on I hope the Vikes do us a favor and knock Brees out for the season

  223. AlisGod Says:

    Mr. post 210….you are really dumb.

    so those guys that didnt know any better, they only won 3 SB’s and got into the HOF. You’re really dumb. Stop getting on this site to post such idiot comments. Those are the guys that truly know Raiders Football. For your information, Howie Long (one of my Raider all time favorite) was one of the key player that hated Shanarat when he coached the Raiders. These guys are true Raiders because they know how to exist in that environment and loved their time there.

  224. 408RAIDER Says:

    We shoulda picked brees up…

  225. Raider0525 Says:

    KoolKell, That is something we haven’t done all year yet. That was one of my problems with Kiffin, not sure it was his fault and I liked Kiffin so thats not bashing him

  226. Raider0525 Says:

    Albert I agree but then you would have to delete your stupid fuccing comments too

  227. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    What did I ever do to you 0525? I have no beef with you. I made one sarcastic comment, and you have a fit. I am sorry if you can’t take a joke.

  228. Raider0525 Says:

    just fuccing with you, I just assumed you were one of those fuccing trolls out there that never had anything good to say except fuc with people, so I like to fuc with people like that, that deserves it

  229. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    That deserves it? What the hell does that mean? Is that some sort of new lame catch phrase?

  230. 408RAIDER Says:

    0525

    ABP=MR

  231. KoolKell Says:

    Raider0525,

    I agree, I had the same problem with Kiffin.
    It will be interesting to see how the plays will be called Sunday.

  232. Clone Davis Says:

    Pundits pundits pundits.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/65275-oakland-raiders-the-sky-is-falling-if-you-believe-the-pundits

  233. Charles Oakey Says:

    Charles Oakey reporting from San Diego.

    It is Monday the day after the Chargers lost to the Dolphins and I’ve yet seen anyone wearing Charger apparrel.

    Of course it’s still early. Six o’clock in the evening.

  234. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    How do I cause problems?

  235. Raider0525 Says:

    never mind…it’s all good

  236. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I guess you couldn’t come up with anything?

  237. Raider0525 Says:

    you’re right :)

  238. Raider0525 Says:

    just not worth the effort, getting tired. It’s 9:00 here, ready for bed

  239. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Have you seen any good movies lately?

  240. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    Clone Davis post #254……..

    Best article i have read thus far and i see the glass half full with that.

  241. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I love seeing Gramatica get blocked. I never liked that guy.

  242. KoolKell Says:

    Wow!!!!Blocked FG returned for TD.

    N.O. Brees, Reggie, look pretty good though.

  243. Raider0525 Says:

    raidercutthroat, where does it say that to be a Raider fan you need to be an Al fan???? Get fuccing real. That is the most asinine comment I’ve heard all day…Albert would even make that comment

  244. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    lol at #267…..true though

  245. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I completely agree with you 0525. We are homies now.

  246. Raider0525 Says:

    True about being a Raider fan??? right

  247. Raider0525 Says:

    thats great Albert I’m so happy now. Now I can go to bed and sleep

  248. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Where did cutthroat go? I guess he got scared. Raider 0525 gave him a major beat down.

  249. Raide