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Madsen returns, Wand to IR

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 6th, 2008 at 11:25 am in Oakland Raiders.

John Madsen waived on Sept. 19 to make room for tight end Ben Troupe, is back on the 53-man roster.

Madsen was on the field practicing during the media window during warmups and drills. Seth Wand out with a knee injury, was placed on injured reserve to make room.

In returning from the bye weekend, the only Raiders player who looked as if he wouldn’t practice in at least a limited fashion is running back Darren McFadden. McFadden (turf toe) continues to wear a protective boot on his right foot.

Justin Fargas, who hasn’t played since the first half of the Chiefs game in Week 2, was suited up and on the field with his teammates.

Also practicing were cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (elbow), cornerback Stanford Routt (ankle), guard Cooper Carlisle (ankle), defensive end Derrick Burgess (triceps) and defensive tackle Gerard Warren (pectoral).

Troupe, who has practiced once since since signing because of a foot injury, was out of his protective boot but was not wearing pads.

During special teams drills, Tyvon Branch, who wore a cast on his right hand (broken thumb) the first four games of the season, was taking his turn fielding kickoffs.

Johnnie Lee Higgins has fared well as the Raiders kickoff return specialist, but could give way to Branch in some instances _ particularly if he assumes a bigger role with the receiving corps. Lane Kiffin had mentioned a bigger role for Higgins following the bye, although that determination will now come Tom Cable and Greg Knapp.

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271 Responses to “Madsen returns, Wand to IR”

  1. 408RAIDER Says:

    Hi Jerry!

  2. MR Says:

    Hey 408, aka nerd boy, thank you for posting the articles about Kiffin suing.

    Please, repost them.

  3. 408RAIDER Says:

    No problem!

    ……………..

    Gone but not forgotten

    Effects of Kiffin firing taking shape in Oakland

    By Dan Parr
    Oct. 6, 2008

    Raiders owner Al Davis took aim and fired his parting shots at Lane Kiffin last week in a very detailed, no-holds-barred, venting session with the media. Davis did what he could to make the head coach he had just fired look as bad as possible.

    He called Kiffin “a flat-out liar” and a con man who, by the end of his tenure, was concerned more about getting paid than anything else. He also said Kiffin never had much faith in a team that never quit on him as he led it to a 1-3 record this season.

    There’s plenty of blame to go around for the Raiders’ league-worst 20-64 record since 2003, and while Kiffin was there for 20 games of futility, Davis has been pushing buttons at the top of the organization for the duration of the slide. No one deserves a larger share of the blame than Davis, the way we hear it, and, because of the intrusive owner, coaching the Raiders is the job no one wants to touch.

    “Al Davis stole Lane Kiffin’s dignity,” a veteran executive told PFW. “That’s not what you do to a young head coach. No one wants to work for the guy. He’s an incessant meddler. It’s not about winning to him. It’s about Al. It’s always been about Al, and he’s not going to check his ego in at the door any time soon.

    “As long as Al is Al, it does not matter who is coaching the team.”

    The newest man not to matter is Tom Cable, whom Davis promoted from offensive line coach to interim head coach. Cable has 21 years of experience as a coach, including a brief stint as a head coach at the University of Idaho from 2001 through 2003.

    Oakland is looking to move on with a new leader in place, but the still-developing consequences of Davis’ management of the Kiffin situation is hindering the team’s ability to make a clean break from the past.

    Word is Kiffin and his agent, Gary Uberstine, will file a grievance with commissioner Roger Goodell to get back the unpaid salary remaining on his contract with the Raiders, reportedly a sum of $3.5 million. Davis said he was firing Kiffin for cause, meaning Kiffin would not receive further payments. In addition, reports indicate Kiffin is discussing the possibility of filing a separate multimillion-dollar defamation lawsuit against Davis.

    “No one ever likes to see a dispute like that happen,” Goodell told reporters during a stop in Houston on Sunday. “Mr. Davis made it very clear he didn’t like it. It was clear that Coach Kiffin was uncomfortable under the current circumstances.

    “It’s something that’s unfortunate. You don’t want to see it happen.”

    The commissioner said he did not intend to intervene in the matter unless he’s asked to.

    “It’s a reality of our business,” Goodell said. “They’ve moved on now. If I’m involved in some fashion, or asked to be involved or required to be involved, I will certainly fulfill my responsibility. But I don’t think (there’s) anything else to say other than it’s an unfortunate situation.”

    Goodell’s words could easily be applied to the situation facing Cable, who is challenged with the task of bringing order to the chaos. There are no head coaches in the league who are also responsible for coaching a position group, but that’s what Cable will attempt to do in Oakland as he continues on as the de facto O-line coach.

    It should be helpful to maintain continuity in O-line management as the Raiders work to protect QB JaMarcus Russell, but Cable’s focus in that one area will likely limit his ability to coordinate a complete game plan. In a way, sources say, it’s as if the team is without a head coach, which should only create more confusion in an already chaotic environment.

    Since he arrived in Oakland, Kiffin’s top priority had been to change the culture of the club. It was beaten down and consumed by a losing mentality when he took over. His challenge was to reverse that mode of thinking, and most accounts suggest he had the squad on the right track before his ouster.

    If Davis, or anyone else, believes the Raiders’ biggest problems left with Kiffin, he’s woefully mistaken. The long-anticipated coaching change has only compounded issues for the team, and Kiffin has the option of adding to the distractions.

    Davis mentioned in the press conference that he was considering a “local personnel executive” to bolster a front office that has been lacking any stability since Bruce Allen defected to Tampa Bay to join Jon Gruden in January 2004.

    The way we hear it, San Francisco director of pro personnel Tom Gamble is believed to be the mystery candidate, with Davis intrigued by his local presence and NFL bloodlines (his father, Harry, was once president of the Eagles). With 49ers GM Scot McCloughan’s father, Kent, having been a lifelong Raiders evaluator, we hear Gamble would not be blocked from skipping across the bay if he so desired, although the move more likely could come following the season.

    Former Lions GM Matt Millen has also been recently connected to his former Raiders boss. However, it’s unlikely that Davis would be willing to compensate Millen anywhere near the same salary range in which he had been paid during a failed Detroit tenure. Many potential candidates around the league maintain that they would not entertain the Raiders’ position under any circumstances.

    “It would take five million (dollars) per year for me to consider that job,” one veteran NFL front-office executive said, “and I would want it guaranteed in writing, with funds held by the attorney general. You can’t count on getting paid there.”

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/WWHI/2008/parr100608.htm

  4. albert bigelow paine Says:

    Post #493, previous post, (Don Al Davis), learn how to spell. It is maturity, not maturaty. You have a spell checker don’t you?

  5. albert bigelow paine Says:

    In case you missed it the first time:

    You can make the case that Kiffin is not a good coach. But, he may also turn out to be a great coach, that we will never know because of Davis’ meddling. It is the same old story with the Raiders; futility, dysfunctional behavior, and the stubbornness of a nearly eighty year old man, trapped in his own ego, that has destroyed the team that we all love, however irrational that may be. The entire sports world knows that Al Davis is a hindrance and that his organization will never succeed until he seizes to be the man in charge. Just today, Mike Dikta, while talking about the Miami Dolphins, said that (and I am paraphrasing) in order for a failed team to find success there must be a fundamental change in the team’s culture. Which, as we all know too well, begins at the top of the organization. The Dolphins seem to have turned things around because of Bill Parcels leadership. We need a similar change. Unfortunately, Al still believes he is a winner. He is not, however, and anyone else who still believes in the mystique of Al Davis is as delusional as he is.

    Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis.

  6. 408RAIDER Says:

    Tard boy will melt down soon!

    Yeah I’m a nerd and a dork @ least I’m not a coward like you.. :P you lil freak

  7. MR Says:

    408, did you just call me a coward?

    Do you want to meet up in real life?

  8. Cole Ford Says:

    John McCain and Sarah Palin = Al Davis and Lane Kiffin. Davis and McCain are both senile old “mavericks” who criticize the mainstream media. And, both have extremely poor judgment. Palin and Kiffin, both grossly inexperienced, were both desperate attempts to fix a sinking ship.

  9. Raidermvp Says:

    It’s time to move on. Back to Football!!! Back to Raider Football!!!

  10. the510 Says:

    Stop the Raider on Raider violence ……

  11. DoneDeal Says:

    roflmao at the net tough guys. comical just like our raiders.

  12. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    By the way Don, maybe I am a woman. What difference would that make? It is obvious by your asinine statement that you are a misogynist, not to mention a homophobe. Why are you so afraid of feminine qualities? Is it either because you are a closet homosexual who is desperately trying to suppress your true nature, or it is that you are afraid of the vagina. Which one is it?

  13. MR Says:

    408, you need a niner jersey. Looks better on you when you’re shaking.

  14. MR Says:

    Chaos, you heard what I said earlier. We can meet up in real life and handle all of our little problems in here. So far, I’m the only one ready to step up. And, it’s funny, you guys are always calling me the “niner fan”. Who’s acting like it now? All you bitches are starting to get scared and back pedal.

  15. MR's Mom Says:

    Ezekial go to bed and let the adults talk now.

  16. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 11:50 am
    408, it aint about internet banging because I’m telling you to name the time or place. It’s real life, ya scared bitch.
    ———————-

    LMAO

    next home game coward I’ll be there… And you wont so STFU tard.. Or you can come to 408 when ever you’d like! :P

  17. Chaos Says:

    MR….Lets get one thing straight. I never called you to the mat, or a niner fan. SO get that shyt straight.

    Second of all, if you got beef with me homie, I am in Cypress down south. I am available anytime.

  18. MR Says:

    Where at in 408, you little faqqot?

  19. Caribou Barbie Says:

    Yeah, all you bozos do is bash the legendary Al Davis 24/7… but that criticism is coming from idiots that act tough in a blog comment section, make gay references, and then get so fustigated they want to meet up “in real life” for a rumble.

    In real life you are still LOSERS.

  20. Chaos Says:

    Hey Caribou,

    Fuk Al Davis!

  21. MR Says:

    Caribou Barbie, go shoot out another retarded baby, you redneck.

  22. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    What happened to Don Al Davis? Did he get banned, or did he run away like a coward?

  23. DoneDeal Says:

    The “legedary Al Davis”. resposible for 6 straight losing seasons. An NFL record for consecutive losing seasons. yep you said it barbie.

  24. MR's Mom Says:

    Oh no you did nt Caridou, you did not call Ezekial a loser. I will go down to Bardie land and kick your you know what young girl.

  25. MR Says:

    Down syndrome…

    I wonder why. Could it be having a baby when you’re like 50 years old? Your 10th baby, at that? No wonder it’s a retard. Rednecks need to stop the rutting. Their gene pool isn’t so great as it is. They have no business challenging nature like that.

  26. 408RAIDER Says:

    :P

  27. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cole Ford needs to check himself into the Betty Ford clinic

  28. [Raiders] Raiders RB Darren McFadden Misses Practice - GridironFans.com Says:

    [...] [Raiders] Raiders RB Darren McFadden Misses Practice In returning from the bye weekend, the only Raiders player who looked as if he wouldnt practice in at least a limited fashion is running back Darren McFadden. McFadden (turf toe) continues to wear a protective boot on his right foot. Source: Contra Costa Times [...]

  29. Silver&BlackBleeder Says:

    What’s up fellas. Been awhile. Big week ahead. It’ll be interesting to see if the real Rob Ryan stands up now that his arch-nemesis Kiff is gone. It’ll be funny if our D plays lights out for the rest of the year for 4 quarters a game. Brees is the true test. He’s having a MVP like start to the season.

  30. RaiderRockstar Says:

    go see the movie AMERICAN CAROL

    in theatres now!!!

  31. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why do we have 4 TE’s and no depth along the o-line?

  32. Raider0525 Says:

    This isn’t even enjoyable to be on here anymore with so many morons, and I don’t have to name them you know who you are. Can’t we talk football?????

  33. Ottocrat Says:

    I love how all of these Niner fans piled-on the Raiders last week on their flagship station. Meanwhile, their loser team will probably have the same record as the Raiders when it’s all said and done. Also, they love to talk about how crazy the Raider fans are, and what a horrible experience a game in Oakland is because of those fans. Well, I invite them, and all of you, to go to YouTube and type in “Drunk 49er fan” There, you will see one of these classy Niners fans taking on a cop. It doesn’t happen right away, but stick with it. It’s HeeeeF’nSterical!

  34. MR Says:

    408 Raider, I was just joking with you. I just know it was you posting as MaddenRaider all morning, so I was a little upset. I apologize for the tough talk. If you don’t accept, I understand. But you’ll have to find me. I’d try every bar in Sacramento. I hit them all. By the time you get to me I’ll be so hammered that if you hit me really hard just one time, I’d probably piss all over myself. But whatever works for you.

    Again, I’m sorry. Chaos, sorry to you to. Cypress… LOL. Yeh, sure. Be there in 6 hours.

  35. 408RAIDER Says:

    yep!

    Raiders 24 aints 17

    Raiders have 250+ rushing yards! brees throws 3 picks.. Jamarcus has 2 TD and 1 int!

  36. Raider0525 Says:

    408 that sounds good and also possible too.

  37. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    RaiderRockstar, please don’t promote smut on this blog. American Carol will only decrease the level of intelligence in here. There are too many idiots in here as it is.

  38. MR Says:

    408, we cool?

    And, you’re crazy if you think we’re going to beat the Saints. But whatever. Fine. Nothing wrong with optimism. Go Raiders.

  39. Caribou Barbie Says:

    MR, did you call me a retard?!

    Do you want to meet up in real life?

    MR will stand for Moose Remains when I’m done with ya!! (wink, wink, nose scrunch).

    And MR are you so dense as to think my nickname reflects support fo Palin? When you grow up you will understand sarcasm, but for now just finish snack and take a nap. You are giving Art Spander a bad name.

  40. Cole Ford Says:

    Saints 30, Raiders 17.

  41. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR I would never post in here under anything but 408! :P No worries I wasn’t tripping of your tuff guy act… Your still tarded tho!

  42. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Albert.. have you seen the movie?

    AMERICAN CAROL is a funny movie. but there is so much truth in it. good for the whole family!

  43. MR Says:

    Caribou, I kind of knew your identity was sarcastic. I was sarcastically responding to your sarcastic you. Sorry you sarcastically didn’t get that.

    Did you see Tina Fey do Palin on SNL last week? Funny s’t.

  44. Charged Up! Says:

    Its time to get charged up! I know this weekend was a stinker, but were going to make our run starting this week with sweeeeeeet revenge against the Patriots! Chargers 27, Patsies 9. Chargers 11-5 Super Bowl Champions!!!!!!!!!!!

  45. MR Says:

    408, I can deal with being retarded. But at least I try not to be. Thinking the Raiders are going to beat the Saints is pretty much caving into retardation, on the other hand.

  46. 408RAIDER Says:

    Yeah I think were gonna win every game! So?

  47. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nice prediction 408. Raiders 3 headed monster will be healthier than in the previous 2 weeks. Cable takes the diaper off Jamarcus and gives him more confidence. Russell isn’t suited for the dink & dunk like McClown or Pennington.

  48. Charged Up! Says:

    RaiderRockstar, I have not seen the movie, but I am aware of the film makers past work. He only makes movies for retards, which I suppose is fitting given that he has made a film promoting his right wing agenda.

  49. MR Says:

    Well, OK, 408. See where I’m going with this? You’re calling other people retarded while thinking the Raiders are going to win every game…

  50. MR Says:

    There is nothing more retarded than believing the Raiders will win out this season… Nothing.

  51. Rick The Hunter Says:

    unfortunately we are still a mess and Tom Cable probably isnt gonna turn anything around. If Kiffin couldnt do it in a year and a half, then I doubt Cable will do it in 3 months, and we’ll be begging for someone to take the worst job in the NFL come the end of the season. Good luck “Temp For Hire”

  52. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dude

    I’m a raider fan. On any given sunday and all…

  53. Caribou Barbie Says:

    MR,

    Was bagging on downs syndrome kids sarcasm? Hard to tell, in the context of all the fascist rants you spew.

    Sarcasm makes a subtle point by pretending to agree with an adversary’s POV. Your crap is just plain ugliness.

  54. RaiderRockstar Says:

    charged up, you should watch the movie. you will really enjoy it

    AMERICAN CAROL

    movie is off the hook!!

  55. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
    There is nothing more retarded than believing the Raiders will win out this season… Nothing—————-

    ————–

    What about posting under other peoples names and 12 alias names?

  56. Brien Says:

    Retarded kids suck!

  57. RaiderRockstar Says:

    MR, Tina Fey did look a little like Palin

    but Tina couldn’t beat down Joe Biden in a debate the way Palin did

  58. Charged Up! Says:

    Rotten Tomatoes gave American Carol an %18 grade. Pretty rotten.

  59. Raider0525 Says:

    Guys have you noticed that all there are in here are guys or kids with nothing else to do. I come on here to hear about the Raiders. What some people think is funny is really insulting and crossing the line, but if they want to hide behide here that’s their choice. Nothing we can do until Jerry puts something on here that can block people from coming on here.

  60. 408RAIDER Says:

    Is charged up MR?

  61. RaiderRockstar Says:

    can we get some depth on the o-line please?

    our only backups are John Wade, Chris Morris and James Marten. right? 2 centers and a guy who just got cut by Dallas and doesn’t know the zone blocking system we run. uhhh then theres Mario Henderson i guess

    anybody feel confident about this group?

  62. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Sarah Palin is a robot manufactured by John McCain. And please, any high school level political science student could have beat Palin in a real debate.

  63. 408RAIDER Says:

    0525
    It will never happen. Jerry’s hits would go down

  64. Raider0525 Says:

    I think charged up is MR plus Brien plus a lot more, what a waste of time, he’s probably 10

  65. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rotten Tomatoes isn’t a good site for movie reviews. I suggest you go watch the movie for yourself.

    AMERICAN CAROL

    it was sold out the first time I tried to go see it

  66. Raider0525 Says:

    I sure you’re right but have you noticed that a lot of people are gone anyways?

  67. Charged Up! Says:

    I am not MR. He is a true Raiders fan who just happens to speak the truth. I, on the other hand, would rather be blind than to have to watch your pathetic team every week.

  68. Raider0525 Says:

    whatever #67

  69. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Albert.. a robot?

    she’s a classy lady with a lot of potential, plus she sees Government the way it is. a bunch of crooks

    who wants Gov controlling thier healthcare? seriously..

  70. Charged Up! Says:

    Here is a review of American Carol from the Miami Herald:

    I can’t imagine anyone — Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, red-state or blue-state, earthling or E.T. — finding An American Carol anything other than ‘not funny.’ And idiotic. And demeaning. And aggressively, persistently crummy.

  71. RaiderRockstar Says:

    0525 makes good points.

    why is a Charger fan on here? closet Raider fan waiting for us to win some games under new HC Tom Cable? it begins this Sunday homie

  72. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nobody from the Miami Herald has seen the movie charged up. they already had opinions formed.

    AMERICAN CAROL is an awesome movie

    you’ll see. worth the $5 or $8 ticket for sure

    best movie of the month

  73. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I am beginning to think that you are being funny Raider Rockstar. We don’t know what her views are on government or health care because she blindly recites what McCain’s people are feeding her. Much like many of the kool-aid drinkers recite Davis’ propoganda.

  74. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Good to hear Routt is back.

    I worry about Nnamdi’s elbow.

    JERRY:

    Any Javon sightings?

  75. Raider0525 Says:

    I think Javon has been one of the biggest disappointments this year. He should give his money back he hasn’t earned any of it.

  76. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Beetle Baily, congratulations, you learned how to use Wikipedia.

  77. RaiderRockstar Says:

    albert

    wasn’t al davis just talking about lane kiffin and what he would call “propoganda” ?

    is your real name gary uberstine? are you a robot?

  78. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raider0525 gets the award for the most obvious statement of the year! Yeah!

  79. Raider0525 Says:

    hey Albert do you really have to be a dic? I din’t deserve that you piece of scit

  80. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    What a joke! Al Davis accusing others of using propaganda (by the way you spelled it wrong Raider Rockstar). That is kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.

  81. Raider0525 Says:

    my statement is more related than anything you or whatever you call yourself this time Brien, MR Charged Up…How about Grow up, that might be a nice name for you guys.

  82. Raider0525 Says:

    ok, I’m out of here until this site gets better.

  83. Elway's Teeth Says:

    I’m staying until I get to read MR’s screenplay. Whatever happened to your movie MR?

  84. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Wait, I am sorry Raider0525. Don’t go away mad. Where would this site be without your insightful input.

  85. RaiderRockstar Says:

    albert ..

    i spelled it the same way you did. i used copy & paste

    besides, it’s obvious this place isn’t filled with spelling bee contestants. why should i be the only one?

  86. RaiderRockstar Says:

    fat albert is chasing people away!

    hey hey hey!!!

  87. crank smoker Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  88. raidersfanindonkey country Says:

    4 Tight Ends? Who keeps 4 Tight Ends?

  89. Raider0525 Says:

    sorry don’t pat yourself on your back, if I was mad that would mean you had some effect on me and that could never happen, just bored with the posting going on in here. Kids must have a day off today. I’ll sit back and see when the talk gets a little more mature and over your head. You can always tell when things are over you trolls head. You come back to insult us. :) lol

  90. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raider Rock Star, this is what you said:

    albert

    wasn’t al davis just talking about lane kiffin and what he would call “propoganda” ?

    is your real name gary uberstine? are you a robot?

    This is what I said:

    What a joke! Al Davis accusing others of using propaganda (by the way you spelled it wrong Raider Rockstar). That is kind of like the pot calling the kettle black.

    Look closer. I guess I know why you are a McCain supporter, lack of education.

  91. Raider0525 Says:

    Hey Rock Star they wont quit until we do, they thrive on this stuff

  92. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Why so serious Raider0525? I wasn’t trying to hurt your feelings. It was just a joke, don’t be so sensitive.

  93. Caribou Barbie Says:

    Raider Rockhead,

    “Controlling healthcare” is a phrase meant to freak out the right wingnuts who think the govt. is the boogyman.

    Government SHOULD adjust the health care system so that:
    > uninsured can get health care before it is an emergency;
    > drug companies have a reason to develop drugs that aren’t huge profit makers;
    > doctors/hospitals make more money if their patients are healthy, not sick;

    If you think the system is OK without government help, you are either really rich, and/or really young. The Neocons are clearly playing on your weak-minded fear of change. They don’t care about you, they care about rich health care providers. So don’t be so afraid…it’ll be OK.

    Now if we can just move on to taking away all your guns…

  94. Raider0525 Says:

    there again you think you know me, not serious just bored with little kids in here

  95. raidersfanindonkey country Says:

    I know I’m being somewhat optimistic but I think we’ll win more games then we’ll loose the rest of the year. With that distraction out of the way we can only get better.

    I like the idea of passing more on 1st and 2nd down as well. Time to see how far Jaymarc has really come. He sure hit Zack in stride with a perfect pass.

  96. ragin Says:

    jerry, lane is gone quit talking about him on the raiders blog…

  97. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Barbie: you’ll never take away my guns!

    albert says: Look closer. I guess I know why you are a McCain supporter, lack of education.

    I guess I know why you are an Obama supporter, lack of common sense

  98. Andrews Mom Says:

    Hello to one and all. I did not read the last blog. Did I miss anything super important?

  99. Raider0525 Says:

    Beetle, let him post all he wants when we stop giving him the attention he’ll go away

  100. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I support Obama because he is not a liar like McCain is.

  101. Andrews Mom Says:

    #88

    Be seeing ya after the depression.
    Keep your shorts on.

  102. Oakglenn Says:

    # Elway’s Teeth Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    I’m staying until I get to read MR’s screenplay. Whatever happened to your movie MR?
    __________________________________________________________

    What do you mean what happened to it?? It got rejected like everything else about tard boy.

  103. Raider0525 Says:

    ha ha, too many trolls in here

  104. RaiderRockstar Says:

    0525, no kidding man.

    these kids need to put the comic books away and grandma needs to block the internet porn they’ve been devoted to. get out of the basements kids. go play outside, take a shower once in a while. make real friends, not warcraft online friends or myspace fakes

  105. Robert Spurlock Says:

    What sux about the coaching change the most, is if Tom cable gets fired, and he will, weve lost the best line coach weve had in years and it goes down hill from there. What good coach will come to Oakland now? No one!

  106. 408RAIDER Says:

    Jerry whats up will the real fix?

  107. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Obama thinks OJ Simpson & Michael Jackson are innocent

    thinks Castro, Kim jung il and bid laden are justified in their causes

    elect obama means set free osama

    i take it you didn’t lose anybody when the towers dropped. never been to war. take what the tv says as truth. right?

  108. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    It was gosh darn nice chatting with you all. I will come back when amateur hour is over.

  109. Raider0525 Says:

    RaiderRockstar, read back, there hasn’t been anything of substance on here for a long time, every time someone brings up a topic the bash it because they aren’t mature enough to carry on a conversation that means anything…oh sorry trolls is substance too big of a word for you to understand.

  110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    nice chatting with you too albert

    i mean it wasn’t

    i mean it was

    i’m a christian errr muslim errr catholic errr terrorist

  111. Raider0525 Says:

    Spurlock, I just told someone that last week when this all happened. He had a great job and did well now he’s in a no win situation….someone should of told him to be careful what you wish for!!!

  112. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Why would Obama think OJ and Jackson are innocent? Also, I can’t believe you are stupid enough to mention Bin Laden when your president has yet to catch the man who attacked the U.S. because he was too busy taking orders from Cheney.

  113. RaiderRockstar Says:

    0525 you’re going to offend them

    the only time they hear the word “substance” is when it has the word “abuse” directly following

  114. Raider0525 Says:

    god now he wants to get into politics

  115. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    That is hilarious Rockstar. I don’t recall adding one iota of substance. Oh yeah, I forgot, you want us to go see American Carol. That is very substantive.

  116. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Paris Hilton has more “experience” than Obama

  117. 408RAIDER Says:

    Yeah they come to snuff the rooster
    Yeah here come the rooster, yeah
    You know he aint gonna die!

  118. RaiderRockstar Says:

    albert

    go watch AMERICAN CAROL

    you might learn something

  119. Raider0525 Says:

    lol, thats true, I better becareful what I say :)

  120. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    That is hilarious Rockstar. I don’t recall you adding one iota of substance. Oh yeah, I forgot, you want us to go see American Carol. That is very substantive.

    Sorry, I made a typo. At least I own up to my mistakes.

  121. Raider0525 Says:

    wow, look at that he used the word substance in a sentence…good boy I’m so proud of you. Now you can go and take your nap…bye bye

  122. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Paris Hilton is more qualified to give her opinion on this blog than you are Rockstar.

  123. Raider0525 Says:

    Albert…bye, bye

  124. RaiderRockstar Says:

    0525

    you forgot to put a space between becareful

    you’re gonna get blasted now!

    haha

  125. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I thought you were going away to cry Raider0525?

  126. Raider0525 Says:

    I better slow down on my typing I don’t want to go down to his level, that would be pretty low

  127. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Bye bye, gosh darn it, I am going to miss you guys. Oh well, I have to go practice being maviericky and all, you know.

  128. raidersfanindonkey country Says:

    24-23 In OT. Janis wins it on a long field goal. And the Saints are still the Aint’s.

  129. Raider0525 Says:

    Nope this is too much fun. I can’t even take my own advice and leave you alone…too easy, but grab your blankie and take your nap

  130. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Oh yea, one more thing: Saints 41, Raiders 19.

  131. MR Says:

    408, I thought it was you posting under my name. That’s why I posted under yours, and started funking with you. I’m sorry about that.

    Caribou Barbie, sorry I made fun of Palin’s handicapped kid. I was in the heat of the moment. It was over the top. Palin’s kid is innocent and I wish the best for the little guy. Palin, on the other hand, is the real retard. Just wanted to clear that up.

  132. Elway's Teeth Says:

    So what you’re telling me OakGlenn, is that there will be no movie written by, and starring MR? I heard it was going to star Jerry Mathers as The MR, and Lance Kiffin as the beaver.

  133. RaiderRockstar Says:

    albert & barbie would make a good couple.

    your first date you should go see the movie AMERICAN CAROL

    let me know what you think tomorrow on here

  134. Raider0525 Says:

    ouch that really hurts us, mostly because you’re leaving us, don’t say such bad things to us. You’ll hurt our feelings :(

  135. Dakota Says:

    OAKGLEEN IS THE BIGGEST TROLL OF THEM ALL. STFU OAKGLENN.

    Notice how he just “popped” in.

  136. MR Says:

    When did Obama say OJ was innocent Raider Rock Tard?

    Nobody is happier right now that OJ is guilty than Obama. OJ walking again would probably put McLame right back into this thing.

  137. RaiderRockstar Says:

    albert, while you’re gone don’t forget to change everything you stand for and believe in for the next speech. the guys you support are good at that

  138. Jorge Blanda Says:

    MR you are a complete idiot.

  139. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    You never answered my question about the OJ thing Rockstar?

  140. MR Says:

    Dakota, you’ve got to find something better to do with your time than sitting in here and trying to figure out who’s posting as who. I’ll admit I posted as 408 Raider. Somebody was posting as me all morning and he happened to be here, and he’s also always had a problem with me. I still think it was him. But if he doesn’t want to own up to it, fine. But I’ve never posted under Oakglenn. At least not today. Not yet.

  141. Raider0525 Says:

    One leaves one comes in…hmmmmm I wonder

  142. MR Says:

    Got something you want to say to me, Blanda?

  143. raidersfanindonkey country Says:

    Sorry 24-21

  144. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Since you are too cowardly to answer my question Rockstar, I am going to assume you made that untrue statement about Obama because you are a racist.

  145. Raider0525 Says:

    why post as someone different????? Grow the fuc up!!!!

  146. Dakota Says:

    MR there isn’t ONE single person on this blog that likes you, listens to you, takes you seriously, or even wants you here, so the question I ask, is WHY ARE YOU HERE?

  147. MR Says:

    F’n geek squad in here, I swear, with all of this speculation as to who’s posting as who. Your guys’ lives are sad.

  148. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I like MR.

  149. 408RAIDER Says:

    OK MR just remember this.. I Only Post as 408RAIDER.. I will never use your name or any1’s.. Were as good as we ever were dude.

    ps I do think your funny sometimes…

  150. Jorge Blanda Says:

    I think I said it jack a$$, or can’t your dumb a$$ read?

  151. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I am still waiting for your answer Rockstar. Are you not going to defend your self.

  152. MR Says:

    Dakota, ditto you. It’s just that I know it and I don’t care. Think I give a rats ass if these dorks like me? I just enjoy getting a rise out of them. I’m a Raider fan, against Al Davis, heavily, and love to stir up s’t with his loyal minions. Their approval isn’t necessary. And neither is yours. You’re probably the biggest loser in here, and I’m not the first to say it.

  153. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    It is official. Raider Rockstar is a racist.

  154. Jorge Blanda Says:

    Get a room 408… Cuz you just sucked MR off.

  155. darkknight01 Says:

    Get over the Kiffin fiasco….the team and fans need to focus on FOOTBALL and FINISHING games!

    Most us already know that Old Man Al needs to go and that he is the problem!

  156. MR Says:

    Blanda, get laid.

  157. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Raider Rockstar is a racist, and I win the debate. I will leave now, unless that coward draws me back in. Goodbye.

  158. MR Says:

    Blanda, speaking of sucking off, have you ever had a b.j.? I’ll bet you that you haven’t.

  159. Dakota Says:

    MR so let me get this right:

    1. You admit you are an idiot
    2. You like pissing people off
    3. You like pissing your pants
    4. You live with your mom

    About right?

  160. Raider0525 Says:

    Good maybe if Albert leaves 3 or 4 will have to go with him

  161. Raider0525 Says:

    Take care guys, see you in the am

  162. MR Says:

    Dakota, what I said was that I don’t care what any of these dorks think of me. You, more than once, have been called out for being a loser who dwells in this s’t hole all day and night. You’re always here. Always. Every time I log on I see your name in the new comments section. Get a life. Go have sex with that disgusting heffer you married. Get off of the internet for at least a few minutes. Come up for air.

  163. 408RAIDER Says:

    so I predict jerry comes with the new fix @ around 3:30….

  164. Dakota Says:

    IF MR or Oakglenn left, about 20 monikers or personas would go with them. Would be much quiter in here without those two idiot trolls.

  165. 408RAIDER Says:

    Later 0525……

  166. kirk Says:

    Al Davis is an idiot. He should have let Walker go when he wanted to quit. JLH should be starting at wideout.

  167. MR Says:

    I’m here to antagonize the Davis worshipers. I’ve admitted that from day one. And, I aint going nowhere. MR leaves when Davis leaves. It’s that simple. I’d get used to that, Dakota. If it bothers you, get offline for a change. Order a porn flick on comcast. Do something other than post in here, ALL DAY LONG!

  168. MR Says:

    Dakota, if you left, the place would probably fall silent. There’s probably times where you’re the only person in here. You’re here 24/7. Dakota, name one hobby of yours other than commenting at this blog. Just one.

  169. 408RAIDER Says:

    MR, I love you. I think you are hilarious.

  170. Dakota Says:

    MR you not only antagonize Davis worshipers, but you annoy the FUK out of the rest of us. Leave for the sake of man kind you demon.

  171. MR Says:

    Blanda, now you’re posting under 408? What is wrong with you? I’m serious about the b.j. Have you ever had one? Ever had a girlfriend, blanda? Ever have a couple of chicks fight over you? Know what that’s like? Me and 408 do. I guarantee you that. I know the dude. You’ve never even hooked up with a chick, have you, Blanda?

  172. 408RAIDER Says:

    hey tard you forgot the hyperlink! Get it right Tard boy!!

  173. Cole Ford Says:

    Dakota and MR are my two favorite posters. They are like Batman and the Joker. If we lost one, the entire universe would collapse in on us.

  174. MR Says:

    Dakota, why should I care if a bunch of dorks are annoyed by me? The mission is to antagonize the Davis worshipers. Mission accomplished. Everything else is a small price to pay. I could understand if any of you were witty enough of writers to put up a fight with me, but that’s obviously not the case. In the land of the unassertive, the aggressive is King. Now bow down, you fat redneck.

  175. MR Says:

    Blanda, ever have a woman tell you she needs it? Ever gotten a call from a chick at 3 am? Ever have women do freaky s’t in bed with you, asking you if your other girlfriend does it that good? It’s sad you don’t know what that’s like, but hey, there’s always porn and hookers, right?

  176. RaiderRockstar Says:

    0525 and albert are both gone?

    sheesh. i leave for 10 min to get some work done

  177. RaiderRockstar Says:

    now i’m a racist? wow. it’s getting deep in here

    albert = jesse jackson?

  178. Oakgoon Says:

    You are a racist Rockstar. What was with that OJ sh*t?

  179. RaiderRockstar Says:

    it’s true man. read the papers

  180. Oakgoon Says:

    where’s your source b*tch?

  181. RaiderRockstar Says:

    making comments like “if Obama was white he’d be less popular than Ralph Nader” is truth. thats not racist

  182. RaiderRockstar Says:

    what’s with the name calling goon?

  183. RaiderRockstar Says:

    who supported Art Shell? I did

    who’s my fav basketball player? Allen Iverson

    who’s racist? you little Kiffin supporter. your fav player is prob Steve Nash

  184. Oakgoon Says:

    If it sounds like a racist republican f*ck, and it smells like a racist republican f*ck, then it probably is a racist republican f*ck.

  185. Oakgoon Says:

    Where is your source?

  186. RaiderRockstar Says:

    uhhh… leave your swearing at the door homie

    your obviously one of the blind following the blind

    go back to posting on your terrorist website

  187. Oakgoon Says:

    Typical Republican crap. You spread lies without any source to back it up. Then you repeat it enough until to the ignorant people believe it.

  188. Cole Ford Says:

    This Rockstar guy is a clown. Every time someone calls him out, he runs away.

  189. RaiderRockstar Says:

    it was a joke cupcake. see the michael jackson comment too

    it was a comment making him sound like an idiot, because he is one

  190. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cole Ford drives a ford. crappy vehicles

  191. 408RAIDER Says:

    http://www.yahoo.com/s/965821

  192. Cole Ford Says:

    Yeah, it may be a joke, but you are insinuating that Obama would side with OJ and Jackson just because he is black. You only see Obama as a black man. Maybe racist is too strong a word to label you with, but I would still say you are slightly ignorant. And that may be giving you too much credit.

  193. Cornholio Says:

    Have you seen the Almighty Bunghole? Lead me to the Almighty Bunghole!

  194. Cole Ford Says:

    What is that link for 408?

  195. Cole Ford Says:

    Wow, Rockstar runs off again. What a p*ssy!

  196. RaiderRockstar Says:

    not because he is black Cole. you threw that in there. i said because he’s an idiot. you made that connection on your own

    want me to put bad white people on that list instead of OJ & MJ? how about Ted Kazinski or Scott Peterson?

    feel better?

  197. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you guys are so sensitive it’s stupid. grow some ballz

  198. Stop the Ignorance Says:

    LOL at post 199 & 206. He ran off on me last time too. We were all giving him so many facts showing why McCain would be such a bad pick. He couldn’t dispute any of it. Poor little ignorant pr1ck!

  199. RaiderRockstar Says:

    all you guys do is call names. how does that make you so supreme?

  200. Reggie Lewis Says:

    None of you are representing Raider Football intelligently. What’s wrong with you people?

  201. RaiderRockstar Says:

    stop the ignorance shows his ignorance

  202. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you’re right Reggie.

    Thank you!

    i’m done for the day

    back to working

  203. John Herrera Says:

    Who’s saying nasty things about my boss? Didn’t Kawakami warn you about that?

    “Get your f’kin hands off me!”

  204. Cornholio Says:

    Do not underestimate the power of the Almighty Bunghole!

  205. DoneDeal Says:

    RaiderRockstar, you talked about obama quite a bit, but what do you know about the bush family? Bush family can be linked directly with osama, and the german SS, as well as being apart of funding the hitler war machine.

    repubs are no better than dems, actually they are the same. both will do the bidding of the masters.

    All USA presidents = puppets.
    Banksters = string pullers.

    rupubs, and demos = shepple that think they make a diffrence, or useless eaters.

  206. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    What’s up people?

  207. DoneDeal Says:

    next president will be the fall guy for what ails the USA.

  208. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    DoneDeal= knows what time it is

  209. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Forget that most dont understand the USA is nothing but a place for England’s bad kids

  210. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    The queen owns your ass but most think they are free lol

  211. Stop the Ignorance Says:

    Post# 213 - “you’re right Reggie.”

    Really? Are you serious? You’re the one always bringing up politics in a Raider forum. We just happen to respond to it because we know your opinions are full of Sh1t!

    So long as you’re agreeing with Reggie, why don’t you follow his advice? Stop the political crap!

  212. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Anyhow……….hopefully NO wins tonight. I dont need them in a must win game Sunday morning

  213. DoneDeal Says:

    takes 1.78 us dollars to make a british pound.
    Brien = Allways enlighting.

  214. DoneDeal Says:

    NO is going to smash tonite, but be slowed by a raider freight train on sunday.

  215. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    whats up raider nation brothers….

    like ive said before….

    WE WILL BE ABLE WITH CABLE….

    I STILL SAY 8-8…..MAYBE EVEN 9-7
    COUNT ON IT!

  216. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    DoneDeal= enlightened as well!!! We will just sit back and watch the drama ensue very soon. No one knows what rude awakening they are in for so let’s just drink and smoke watch these crazy ass Raiders then DIE

  217. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Russell needs to put himself back into Jan 2007 in the Sugar Bowl frame of mind

  218. DoneDeal Says:

    post 227, funny as all hell but true. I hope obama doesnt win, they will make him an example and a fall guy. kinda like a 2 for 1.

  219. John Herrera Says:

    You 2 lovebirds (Brien and DoneDeal) done with the man lovefest?

    I’d like to talk some football. We’re going to stomp Brees into the grass. Our offense will get untracked and our defense will dominate!!!

  220. DoneDeal Says:

    i want to see russell more vocal. crack some heads like gannon. know hes not that type but man he needs to shake it up.

    What is up with Javon Walker? Is he out of kiffins puppy house.

    I wonder if we will see more of the rookies, chaz, and watkins?

  221. DoneDeal Says:

    post 230, thtas some funny ish. ok i back on football.
    relax have a cream soda.

  222. John Herrera Says:

    Walker is a POS! Trust me, I work in the front office and see the practices from time to time. The old man should have let him retire. But don’t tell him I said that! Sshhhhhh!

  223. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    post 230 spoken like a true idiot……..move on

  224. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Donedeal………… the cream soda he gets is directly from Fairy Rice’s snatch

  225. John Herrera Says:

    Mmmmmm……Cream Soda…..

    Actually, I’m in the mood for onion rings and some Hefeweizen.

  226. KoolKell Says:

    MR,

    Post #25 = Brutal. Yikes.

  227. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    JLH, Chaz and Watkins deserve more time. Walker is an unknown but if he is ready to play it will make the team much better

  228. DoneDeal Says:

    Did any of you guys watch the miami game. They ran the wild hog all over the dis-chargers. would like to see us do some of that. brown and williams were to much to handle.

    Best play of the night brown trucks cromartie = priceless.

    Mc fadden should not see the field until 100% healed.

  229. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    MR is beyond comical. I rather enjoy his posts

  230. John Herrera Says:

    Brien - wow. Did your husband just run out on you. Poor baby. Looking for another mate, ay? Well, you may want to try match.com. Actually, craigslist will probably be good enough for someone like you.

  231. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Dmac should have been rested after the KC game. What’s the point in further injury?

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  233. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    brees doesnt have the crew that he onced had when we played him….

    we will stop him and it will be sweet.
    cable will be 1-0 and on his way to a bright future with the raiders no matter what anyone says.

  234. DoneDeal Says:

    wonder whos bright ideaw as it to play mc fadden when bush was more than capable.

    Do we know how long mc fadden will be down. Fargas looks like he will be ready this week.

  235. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn……a gold rush 49er cheerleader like yourself seems to have a better handle on those sites than I

  236. John Herrera Says:

    Yep - I thought we should have run a little more (I like the passing - don’t get me wrong) against those chokers. Then again, Run DMC was hurt, Fargas was out, and Bush was running like he was holding his baby. He looked real worried about fumbling.

  237. KoolKell Says:

    Bill Parcells is showing what competent management means to a football team.

    Pay attention cult followers. Some of you can be saved.

  238. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Brien<——–just doesn’t like Farglass at all. He does play hard but I’m not a big fan of him.

  239. Dakota Says:

    Wow, I see I must have been posting comments in my sleep all day….

    ….or there is a troll in the house.

  240. DoneDeal Says:

    running like that does cut into your ypc

  241. John Herrera Says:

    Post 244. I agree and I think we can rattle Brees. Hopefully we can keep up the pressure all game.

  242. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Bill Parcells and Al Davis= great great friends

  243. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    whats up dakota

  244. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Players play this game

  245. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Dakota……..there is always next year. Keep your head up

  246. John Herrera Says:

    Brien - I’m willing to put your homo tendencies aside if you are.

    Ok, let’s talk about football and about your last comment. Why don’t you like Fargas exactly?

    Yes, he’s injury prone, but the guy is fearless. Never backs down. In my opinion, a true Raider.

  247. Dakota Says:

    STR,

    Not much, just getting ready to end another great day of work, thought I would step in and chat, but I see I have been here all day!

    How are you doing?

  248. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Raiders need the entire secondary to be on point this Sunday. Offensively we should move the ball but the key is getting touchdowns when you are in the redzone. Kicking field goals has you 1-3 instead of 3-1 and that’s the damn truth.

  249. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZ homo is coming under the name John Herrera. The joke you are trying to pull off is not working. Go back to the drawing board.

  250. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Interesting matchup for the Tackles having to deal with the good DEs the Saints have. Kwame Harris is just not it at LT

  251. John Herrera Says:

    Fargas is like me. Do what it takes to get the job done. Have a problem with a reporter? Call my name. By the way, if I wasn’t afraid of being sued, I would have dropped his azz!

  252. SouthTexasRaider Says:

    doing good, i just got home from work and felt the urge to chime in.
    hey hows your boy doing? is he still without power?

  253. Voldemort Says:

    We Suck!
    DIE AL DIE!!!!!!!!! I normally wouldn’t wish death upon anybody, but this senile paranoid a$$hole deserves it. Someone needs to assasinate him or something. His brain is going down the toilet, and he’s bringing his franchize with it. Or, rather, his brain went down the toilet a while ago, and he already brought his franchize with it.

  254. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    If you are like Farglass that means you are injury prone………I doubt you would have whipped Kawajappy’s ass

  255. Brien(Al Davis Supporter) Says:

    Al Davis= th