Raiders appear to be at full strength
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 8th, 2008 at 11:15 am in Oakland Raiders.
Running back Darren McFadden made his way slowly to the practice field without his protective boot as the Raiders began preparations to face the New Orleans Saints Sunday in New Orleans.
McFadden was held out Monday, with coach Tom Cable saying he expected the rookie to practice Wednesday.
It appeared that most injured players were in uniform, although it remains to be seen how much they’ll actually do at practice.
More to come following practice and interview sessions . . .
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October 8th, 2008 at 11:17 am
FIRST BIOTCHES
October 8th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Second
October 8th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Third
October 8th, 2008 at 11:18 am
sweet. hopefully our running game will be back to full strength this week
October 8th, 2008 at 11:23 am
I am gay.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Now that Kiffin is gone I am officially on the I love Al Davis bandwagon. I was wrong about everything. This team will win in New Orleans and make a playoff run.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:27 am
That FIRST thing is so lame.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:33 am
MR, I wish I had your optimism. I hated Kiffin when he was here. He questioned the knowledge of the dark lord, so how could I not hate him? But I really do miss him, already. This team has had a losing attitude for the 4 seasons prior to Kiffin’s arrival. He was the only one here willing to challenge Davis and change the attitude of not just the team but also the, “hey, we just won two games straight, everything is fine”, attitude of the entire organization, as well. Without him, we’re back to Al Davis football. Ditching the run in the first quarter, soft defenses allowing the run, and thinking 2 straight wins is an accomplishment. But it’s good to see you’re pulling yourself up by the boot straps, MR. Because I just don’t see the light.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Los Malosos Says:
…Look for our DT’s to be gassed during the 4th quarter, not much Ryan can do about that, he only has 3 of those…
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I wonder what it is. Do we overwork our players during the week so that by the time Sunday rolls around they are too worn out in the 2nd half to put forth any effort? nothing left in the tank?
Or is Brad Roll just a sack of crap strength & conditioning coach? I don’t remember this being an issue under Jeff Fish
October 8th, 2008 at 11:35 am
1st to be a dumb a$$
October 8th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Comment #8 wasn’t me. It was mo ron troll tard. Who else?
Drama, the “first” game we play is just for fun. Lighten up.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Lyn, the “first” thing is just good fun. Are you always this serious?
October 8th, 2008 at 11:37 am
With only three DTs its hard to have a rotation that rest these guys.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Wow, MR is trolling as OG and doing a poor job of it. Post 8 is bogus.
As for the little nancyboy who has to post “first”…Caribou Ken are you a maverick? I doubt it.
I will call you Cuckold Ken, because I have been seeing GI Joe on the side.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:39 am
bench Dmac PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZEEE
October 8th, 2008 at 11:41 am
I don’t see what the big deal is about people posting “first”. It’s just good fun. Caribou Barbie, why be so smug?
October 8th, 2008 at 11:42 am
fun to me is running naked backward threw a corn field
October 8th, 2008 at 11:43 am
4evaRaider, Benching D Mac has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. He’s one of the horses that can make us a playoff team this year. We have Kiffin out of the way now, which means we have a coach who’s actually trying to win. The dumbest thing we can do is take one of our best players out of the equation. D Mac has to tough it up and play. If he’s a real Raider, he’ll do just that. We’ll see what happens.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Ufck I wasnt 1st time 2 die
October 8th, 2008 at 11:44 am
LOL, 4evaRaider. I get pretty competitive with the “first” thing, too. I’ve gotten really pissed a couple of times for not getting it. Hey, I’m an athlete. It’s my competitive nature.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:45 am
If the running game is at full strength we can wear a defense out and close games in the 4th.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Hey, Lyn, I’m game to run naked in a corn field with you. You are a woman, right? LOL.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Oakglenn,turf-toe took down JACK LAMBERT;nuff said
October 8th, 2008 at 11:47 am
You betcha (wink)
October 8th, 2008 at 11:48 am
4evaRaider, Jack Lambert wasn’t a Raider. I don’t think you’re seeing the big picture, here. This is the most important season in our franchise’s history. We are at a crossroads. Not only at team headquarters, but also amongst the fans. It’s do or die time, for everyone. And McFadden has to be aboard. We’ve already had to throw one disloyal shipmate overboard. It’s time for everyone to pull together, players and fans, and march toward the promise land. We have a team. We have the talent. D Mac is part of that team. He has to have his head in the right place and he has to want to be part of the magic that is the POST KIFFIN era of the Oakland Raiders!
October 8th, 2008 at 11:48 am
it took C Wood like 3 years to recover from turf toe, didn’t it? seemed like it
October 8th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Lambert played his career on astro turf in Pittsburg that’s what did him in.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:50 am
RaiderRockstar, comparing a true talent like D Mac to a bum like C Wood just about disqualifies you from this conversation.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Woodson didn’t want to practice is why that injury was such along one. If you know what i mean
October 8th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Exactly, Lyn.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:54 am
I couldn’t believe that Jordan went down in the Niner Pats game this past weekend. Must of been that Candlestick sod monster that got him.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Woodson had “club toe”…never practiced, but would keep getting his toe stepped on by drunks at the club.
And Oakglenn, I wasn’t being smug. I called out the troll posting as you (while you were doing the same). But it is really NOT fun for most of us to see supposed Raider fans acting like spoiled kids by posting “first!”. If you are going to play that dumb game, you should at least be inventive enough to add another comment worthy of our cumulative attention.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Pretty interesting article.
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The Raiders’ black hole of coaches
By Mike Lopresti, Gannett News Service
Checking the wires, Al Davis hasn’t fired any more coaches lately. But the day is young.
Now that Lane Kiffin has been tossed onto the discard pile in Oakland — which is starting to resemble a stack of used tires at the end of a NASCAR race — this will make eight head coaches in 13 years for the Raiders. But at least interim Tom Cable survived through the bye weekend.
The others to come and go were found disappointing and lacking, according to the owner, and pushed out the door. Last week’s divorce with Kiffin was particularly messy, and had everything but a taped Alec Baldwin phone rant.
He’s an essential part of NFL history, but somehow Davis reminds you of the guy who’s been through half a dozen marriages and keeps claiming, “It’s all my ex-wife’s fault.”
But perhaps the problem is in the hiring process. A new questionnaire for prospects might help zero in on men who are better suited to the Raiders’ way of doing things.
We happen to have one handy. This survey might be just what Oakland needs. A guy who answers enough of these questions correctly is obviously an Al Davis man. At least long enough to have his name on the door.
FIND MORE STORIES IN: Super Bowl | Denver Broncos | Los Angeles | Oakland Raiders | North Korean | Mike Shanahan | John Madden | Lane Kiffin | Al Davis | Alec Baldwin | Spartan | Tom Cable | Mr. Davis | Kim Jong-Il
1. Why in heaven’s name would you want this job?
2. How is your John Madden impersonation?
3. When you were a kid, did you ever dream of being in a circus?
4. When was the last winning Raiders team? If you wish, round off to the nearest decade.
5. Name three men in the NFL more important than Al Davis. Extra points if you can’t think of that many.
6. Are you personally related to any of the former Raiders coaches who couldn’t cut the mustard?
7. Are you prepared to make the tough decisions on the questions Mr. Davis gives you sole authority to answer? For instance, tie color. Very important. And when it comes to how you like your eggs, the buck stops at your desk.
8. Would you say the fact the Raiders have not won a Super Bowl in nearly 25 years is due to coaching error, league conspiracy or global warming?
9. Wouldn’t you agree that given the honor of working for the Oakland Raiders, getting paid isn’t really all that important?
10. Which golf course will you be playing on NFL draft day, so the Raiders can find you and let you know who you’ve drafted?
11. When you’re fired, would you prefer it be by e-mail or cellphone?
12. Were you ever in the jury pool for an Al Davis lawsuit?
13. If things go south, what names will you not mind being called on national television?
14. Did you watch the press conference, when Mr. Davis dismissed that lying, no-good Kiffin?
15. Did you notice that the background behind the podium was a wee bit Spartan? And the presentation was a tad long? And the owner was often on the grim and worn side? Matter of fact, did it bother you that when some viewers first saw it, they mistook it for a May Day speech from Kim Jong-il on North Korean television?
16. How quickly can you pack?
17. Don’t you still think Los Angeles should have built us a new stadium?
18. If you lose at home to the Denver Broncos and Mike Shanahan very often, will you do the honorable thing and fall on your sword?
19. What will be your deadline each week for suggestions to be faxed from the owner’s box?
Thank you for your answers. We’ll be in contact soon. Just wait, baby.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/lopresti/2008-10-06-raiders-coaches_N.htm
October 8th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Oakglenn I disagree;it is not do or die this year.What I meant was if turf-toe could bring down JLAMBERT,surely it could bring down Dmac.You sir are not seeing the big picture:We CANNOT be so selfish 2 ruin maybe the best HB 2 ever play the game 4 one season.If his toe is an issuse:BENCH HIM
October 8th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Caribou barbie, first off, thank you for pointing out the troll. He’s a lifeless turd who’s here to ruin it for us. That being said, I still dont’ see what your problem is with the “first” game. It’s just good fun.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
4evaRaider, I’m sorry you feel that way. Those of us on board for the ‘08 crusade, on the other hand, will see you on the bandwagon when we’re making a playoff run.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
If McFadden sits out this year, Marcus Allen style, he’s not a Raider. This is the most important season in franchise history. We have to show the world we didn’t need Kiffin.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
short-sightedness is killing us
October 8th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Not that interesting Bob…more like a depressing rehash of the same old slams on Al.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
We need to move the ball and win time of possetion so that the DT’s don’t get gassed.
I think the reason for Kelly having conditioning problems is that he was rehabing his knee well into training camp and couldn’t get the work in to get into shape, but he should be in better shape every week than the week before. Sands I don’t think knows how to get into great shape, but I think he is in better shape now that any time since he got here.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
I agree with you this time, Cabibou Barbie. That article was beneath Bob. He’s usually more level headed. Anyhow, “First”!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
OG, if typing “first” is your idea of good fun you must bust a nut when you win solataire.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Raiderkoolaid, excellent comment. And I agree completely. Kelly really is stepping up. I have a feeling he’s going to be one of our leaders as we head into the stretch and make a playoff run.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Barbie, I just dont’ see what your problem is with people having a good time. You’re starting to remind me of someone in here.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
First First First!
Nah, nah, nah nah nah!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Oakglenn,my whole premise of benching Dmac is TOTALLY MEDICAL,not anything else foo-foo.You start by saying he sit out ala marcus WTF????????he not RAIDER WTF???I ONLY HAVE HIS BEST INTREST IN MIND FOO-FOO
October 8th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
sh:t Troll ufcf you you aint OG
October 8th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
I think this article has a little more of a balanced view on Davis. Not as much bias, IMO. Give it a read and see for yourself.
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Davis dooms his Raiders to failure
BOB GLAUBER
October 5, 2008
On Jan. 22, 2009, Al Davis will celebrate a dubious anniversary, one that says all you need to know about how out of touch the Raiders’ managing general partner has become.
On that day, it will have been 25 years since the Raiders last won the Super Bowl. On Jan. 22, 1984, Davis’ Raiders routed the Redskins, 38-9, in Super Bowl XVIII.
Since then, Davis’ franchise has wallowed mostly in misery, with the owner himself the root cause of all that has afflicted the team he affectionately refers to as the Raiduhs.
There is little hope of a turnaround anytime soon. In fact, Davis, 79, sunk to a new low Tuesday when he held a news conference announcing the firing of yet another head coach - Lane Kiffin - after only 20 games.
Davis read and displayed on an overhead projector a three-page warning letter he’d given to Kiffin nearly three weeks ago. He called on the coach to “cease your immature and destructive campaign” by publicly criticizing the team. Davis also called Kiffin a “flat-out liar” and vowed not to pay Kiffin the remaining money owed on the contract because he was fired “with cause.”
If Davis were a player, he’d have been banished from the league years ago because he couldn’t get the job done. Unfortunately for Raiders fans, they’re stuck with one of the most misguided owners, a man who doesn’t have the sense to realize that he needs to turn over the football operations to someone with competence.
Davis once was one of the most ingenious men in his sport, unafraid to take risks on young coaches such as John Madden and older, colorful players such as John Matuszak, Kenny Stabler and Ted Hendricks.
As commissioner of the old American Football League, he was a maverick who ultimately helped give his fledgling league enough credibility to merge with the long-established NFL.
But nearly a quarter-century after holding up the Vince Lombardi Trophy, Davis has become a pathetic man who has lost touch with how to run a football team. Too bad for the die-hard fans of the Black Hole that the franchise has fallen into it, never to get out as long as Davis is in charge.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-spglauber5870934oct05,0,6827426.story
October 8th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
lol I thought the comment that Dmac made about turf toe re: Woodson and not practicing was hilarious. This is one of those injuries that can take a while to heal, but wont end or ruin his career if he does play. I say suit him up, but use him sparingly if Fargas is going well. Bush aint too shabby of a change up back!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
The Aints are going to have a couple of starters out on defense. It looks like Sedrick Ellis and Tracy Porter will both be out. Their placekicker, Gramatica was put on IR too, but I don’t know if that is good for us or bad for us.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
4evaRaider, it’s not me. Of course it’s the troll mo ron who’s been posting as me all day. This is the first real comment of mine on this thread. And, I agree, we should give DMac a rest. This season is toast, anyway.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
4evaRaider, you going to the Jets game?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Oakglenn don’t be a fool. The Raiders drafted a warrior in DMAC. He’s never missed a game in his life at any level. The team may be doing him a disservice not allowing him to heal but rest assured DMAC is a baller and he’s going to come to play.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Raiderkoolaid, it doesn’t matter. We’re toast this season. I’m looking at the draft, and keeping D Mac healthy. The new era of Raider football begins in ‘09. Kiffin already tainted this season.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Michael, that wasn’t me posting the stuff about playing McFadden. It was the mo ron, posting as me, as usual. He has no life. He’ll come in here and post as me for 16 hours. He should kill himself. For the record, I am all for resting McFadden up . This season is toast, anyway. We should rest the whole starting lineup this season. We’re not going to be able to reverse the damage that LAME has done this year. Impossible. Focus on next year. We will be back.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
4evaRaider, you going to the Jets game ,bro?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
There is no reason to give up or quit on this season. I am optimistic about a turn around, and even if it doesn’t happen, winning a few games late would help bring a different attitude for next year. The sides, even though we didn’t win the last two I think they showed we can compete. Now its time to go past competing and learn to win.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
I’m gay! Who wants to come home with me?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Raiderkoolaid, hey, if we win, cool. But I think Kiffin ruined this season. I’m looking at next year. Get DMac rested. We should bench Russell, too. Why risk getting him hurt in a lost season? That’s my point.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Quiting on this season would not help get us ready to win next year.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Sorry real Oakglenn. Dmac should absolutely rest until he feels close 100%. The focus right now should be on changing the culture around the team and most of all continuing to develop Jamarcus.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Mommy I made poopie.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Raiderkoolaid, hey bro, I agree. It would be awesome if we could pull off a few wins this year. But all I’m saying is that we should rest DMac and Russell, because there’s no point risking them getting injured in a lost season like this one. That’s all.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
The Saints game is winnable Knapp is starting to open the passing a little more plus getting Fargas back will be huge. This game should tell us how how good or bad we really are.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
TROLL ALERT!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
post49 ok wait no not ok.Let me say “REST Dmac” not bench Dmac
October 8th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Caribou Barbie, MR the mo ron has already been exposed. We know it’s him. Good looking out.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
We better hope that they are preparing the specials teams to deal with Reggie Bush and his punt returning. I’m going to keep an eye on Branch. Hopefully he can get down the field and cover Reggie.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Russell needs to be out there getting experience. I do think that if we go another look at Walter on a team that is not atrocious we might be surprised.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
The greatness of the Raiders is in it’s future. That’s what we need to think about. I’d like to see a healthy D Mac and Russell next year. Why risk that by playing them this year?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Al Davis should be in the Hall of Fame twice.
We would be 65-20 if the staff listened to the legend.
Just win baby.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
who the ufck is micheal???
October 8th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Kool aid, I’d rather throw Walter into this train wreck than Russell. Let’s protect the kid. Keep him out of this mess. Next year. We draft big, Russell and DMac are ready to light the world on fire, and the cohesiveness will have set in under Cable’s tutalidge.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
rest this
October 8th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Mr. Davis showed us he is still as sharp as ever.
Kiffin showed he is not yet a full grown man.
Just win baby.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
beep-beep Troll Alert
October 8th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Well put, Barbie. #71. But I think we have that staff, now. We just need to rid this team of the Kiffin stench. We can be SB contenders by next year. God knows we have the talent.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Every game we play is winable. I don’t think we are overmatched by any team on our schedule. I don’t expect us to win all of them, but there isn’t any reason to give up on winning most of them.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
The troll’s been exPOSED! It’s the mo ron, at it again. I think we need to call Ezekial’s mom and have him put to bed.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Raiderkoolaid, I agree. We can win any game. We do match up with every team. Who knows? All I’m saying is that we should bench DMac and Russell to keep them from getting long term injuries. This season is toast, anyway.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
[...] - RB Darren McFadden practice with the Raiders on Wednesday, but still might be limited this week. (Oakland Tribune) [...]
October 8th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Bench McFadden. Save him for next year, when it counts again.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Oakglenn,
I think you are the biggest troll on this board.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
#48 - sounds like that guy thinks Snake was a vet when we picked him up.
Hollywood Raiders, backbiting, media circus. Changing the culture? Yeah surrre. Thanx again Lane, for waving it like a goddam flag. Although, to be fair, Davis got his head messed up in LA sorta permanently. Just in case anyone thinks I’ve lost sight of the big picture. He saw himself in Lane … hmmmm.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
wow. i was only 8 months old when the Raiders won their last Super Bowl
i wasn’t a fan back then. they haven’t done squat for me
October 8th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
anyone want to join me in circle jerk?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
MR is a guy who makes arguments regarding the faults of Al Davis, so am I.
We are not here to play silly games. Only the Pro Al Davis people do that, because it’s the only recourse they have.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
how can some say the season is lost when we’ve only played 4 games…
we will be 4-4 and hopefully 5-3 at mid season.
let the raider hating raider fans hate at my comment begin….
October 8th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Its because i am gay
October 8th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
All this news is camp fodder!
Jerry whats really going on with Javon Walker!
And is Jammy getting his chemistry right with the recieving corp?(e.g. Schilens, Curry, Higgins, Lelie, and Watkins)
Whats the real scoop!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
We have arguments and facts to rely on. The Al Davis Cultists have nothing but hijacking other peoples names and name calling and juvenile nonsense to distract the conversation.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
i like your attitude south texas.
the Raiders don’t play another 2007 playoff team until December
one thing is for sure. Can’t blame any more games on the coaching fued between Kiff & Davis. Can’t blame anymore games on Kiff’s conservative playcalling
October 8th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
On the next post I am going to be number one. If you dried up old prunes who don’t know have to fun don’t like it, see me after the game.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Rockstar, its all on Al and Ryan now.
If Cable and Knapp run our offense in cohesion.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
what the hell is wrong with the IDIOTS running/ruining this blog? why dont they set it up with a LOGIN so we dont have morons posting as others?
its confusing
its frustrating
its pissing me off
maybe Ill come back when the mod figures out how to set server security for logins!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
very true rockstar. with the drama gone and 100% play calling by one coach…there should be no excuses.
and like i said….a win sunday will be the turnaround for our players AND the franchise…
WE WILL BE ABLE WITH CABLE….1-0 FOR CABLE
2-3 FOR THE SEASON.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Rollin J..
LOL, well see ya when our team wins a trophy, that long will it take them for get registration here =)
October 8th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I would be in favor of logging in to get rid of the trolls
October 8th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Any post claiming that “this season is toast” is definately the troll, FYI.
If Cable bats .500 and learns on the way, the season will not have been toast. The biggest hurdle this young team faces is BELIEVING they will win. We make progress on that level then this season is not toast.
MR, eat some sh!t please. I’ll tell ya when to stop! (wink, wink, nose srunch).
October 8th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Lyn will you marry me?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
STR..
what will a loss mean then??
October 8th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
KoolKell is a Wayne Valley Cultist…
October 8th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
We need a WR to step up. It could be Walker if he ever gets healthy, but JLH is probably the best hope.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
I’ve been dead for ten years
October 8th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
I suspect Rolln J is MR trying to convince us the trolls are “ruining this place”. He wants us frustrated, instead we spot his lies and ignore.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Watching the Texans-Colts & Saints-Vikings games this past week reminded me that the Raiders aren’t the only team to suffer tough, tough losses in games we should’ve won (Bills, Chargers games).
Not that it sucks any less. It’s just a reminder that you’ve gotta play 4 full quarters in this league if you want to win. You can’t play prevent D half-way through the 4th. Being up two scores in the 4th is meaningless unless you keep your foot on the other guy’s throat.
This is something Cable talked about right after getting the HC job. Hopefully he make it a reality with this team.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I’m first 101st, this is so much fun!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
caribou is that an offer?
October 8th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
What about Roy Williams….he wants out of Detriot or so rumor has it.
I believe there will be no more excuses for not having recievers that can’t get open anymore if we get him…
Your thoughts on this one…
October 8th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Oh heck I was 107th! This is still fun anyway!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
I’m 111th! Wheeeee!
October 8th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
life is 4 the living
October 8th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Funny, after the draft you said DMAC would be red shirted this year.
Keep posting lil feller!
# Oakglenn Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 11:43 am
4evaRaider, Benching D Mac has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. He’s one of the horses that can make us a playoff team this year. We have Kiffin out of the way now, which means we have a coach who’s actually trying to win. The dumbest thing we can do is take one of our best players out of the equation. D Mac has to tough it up and play. If he’s a real Raider, he’ll do just that. We’ll see what happens.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
post 109,All here would like 2 get our hands on Roy Williams
October 8th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
well LMN i dont think that far but if it does happen, what it means will all depend on how the loss occured.
we all see the games, will it be the conservative play calling or the soft defense….
but yet it also depends on if we are trailing or leading…… know what i mean.
i really dont know how to answer that until it happens and we see the game….
October 8th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Raiders can’t afford Plax, TJ, Chad, Anquan, Roy or any other high priced WR in free agency this offseason. The Javon Walker signing ruined that possibility a long time ago.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
It seemed we were hamstrung in the past two losses getting that big third down to keep a drive sustained,thats when the defense started to wear down from too many three and outs and not taking time off the clock. That wild cat formation could throw a wrinkle in the play calling with DMC as a threat to pass or run.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
RaiderRockstar, when did you become the GM and the financier for the Oakland Raiders? You know nothing about what any NFL team can do with free agents so why pretend to have knowledge?
FYI…your name is ridiculous.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
I sure a lot of receivers would love to come here and get paid big $$ to not catch the football ala Walker.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
I take it the trolls don’t have any money invested in the stock market either.
All they talk about is gay sex.
Bottom of the barrell fellas.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Look what a factor Ronnie Brown has been against good teams like the Pats & Chargers.
Brown/Williams is similar to what we have in McFadden/Bush. Pennington to Ginn, Fasano & Camarillo isn’t an upgrade over Russell to Walker, Miller & Higgins.
point is, team focus on stopping the run in both scenarios. Dolphins find a way to win. We should be winning more games.
With a new HC and players getting healthier we should see better results.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
D Hall loves his experience with the Oakland Raiders.
-1-3 record, on pace to go 4-12.
-new coach
-he gets burned week after week
POS.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I’m all 4 a wildcat formation,single-wing or whatever formation will work.In tuna-land they are smart enough 2 play 2 their strenghts,whatever they may be.Almost any wrinkle can work but teame need their own,depending on personell.We have almost best personell, WE IN
October 8th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Yeeehhooooo!!!!! If we can get to full strength we will steam roll the saints!!!!!!!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
STR..
I know what you mean..
I’ve said, that seeing Knapp calling plays in Atlanta wont mean a thing regarding a difference towards Kiffin..
But still, he could be completely different than I expect, exactly because of that, meaning Kiffin was called out for his playcalling, so Knapp might do a 180 on me =)
we’ll all be wiser late sunday night =)
October 8th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
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October 8th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
CharlieBrown:
it’s not rocket science… money doesn’t grow on trees
look at the huge contracts on this team from 1st round picks & free agents
Russell, McFadden, Walker, Gallery, Harris, Kelly, Warren, Asomugha, Hall, Huff, Wilson, Janikowski, Lechler
plus Burgess, Howard & Morrison are going to need new deals soon.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Full strength Jerry ? They had a week off not 3 months!
October 8th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
RaiderRockstar, every year the Raiders are over the cap. Every year AL signs whatever garbage FA he likes.
Is this your first year watching NFL Football ?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Can we at least see what happens this week before we throw the coaching staff under the bus.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Fargas, Curry, Sands are making good money too, not not anything near what we’re paying the above mentioned guys..
Also consider another high draft pick in April if we don’t win many games under a new HC..
i’m an accounting guy, it doesn’t compute
October 8th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Lyn,
I’m genuinely optimistic about Sunday. No bs. At least we won’t have a coach who doesn’t believe in the passing game. A few first downs in the 4th qtr the last few weeks, and we might be 2-2.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Roy Williams to the Raiders?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Ape man is back? It has some courage, I tell you!
October 8th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I worry about every move that Al makes, except funding. If there is one thing that this team can still do, its pay a player. Don’t forget that they can always re-negotiate a player’s contract. Javon Walker, and Ronald Curry especially are looking at pay cuts.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Brien,
Is your father an Ape?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Brien,
Or your mother?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Disregard post 133
October 8th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Brien,
Or did the Ape have it’s way with moms?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
BBB- true dat
October 8th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
It seems to know what it is. lol
Look how quickly it responded. lol
October 8th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Brien,
You got some Ape in you, boy?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
BBB..
and thats part of why Al Davis ludicrous, he pays players big doe, but his staff gets petty contracts..
October 8th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Brien Tard Boy,
Do I have to slap you around again today?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
We’d b 3-1
October 8th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Is the “White” wife at work?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
It is totally one sided and ludicrous LMN, but at least it’s something positive.
“Anytime you have an organization and an owner that wants to win as badly as Al Davis wants to win, and will spend the money to win, I don’t think you have as many barriers as you think.” -John Madden
October 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
It appears that Hall is ass kissing to Davis with his comments about being happy here and all the other crap he has said. To me, this load of crap about being able to talk to the owner and not “kissing ass to the coach” BS that Hall is talking about is exactly why coaches won’t get the respect they deserve from the players as soon as things start hitting rock bottom.
So in other words Hall likes to kiss rich asses of owners rather than the coach because he knows if the coach don’t like him he can’t do anything as long as he’s buddy buddy with the owner.
Thanks a lot DAVIS. You’re really helping improve this team.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
That’s what we thought. Ape runs away when it gets hot! lol
October 8th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
The wife is at work yes. Yours?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Brien,
You little biotch, you couldn’t make me buckle if I was a belt.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Its seldom I say stuff like this anywhere, but you are a disgrace most of the time..
October 8th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
I don’t need a wife to support me UNCLE TOM.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
All you Davis haters are out of luck, they have had a Davis clone alive for a few years now and when the clone is old enough he is going to take over the franchise.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
BBB..
its very frightening that we on raiders subjects agree so much today =)
October 8th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Brien,
I’ll pull a little biotch like you out of bed at half past four.
And make you jump in that dawdamned Bay if it’s 90 below.
You little pootbutt biotch.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
I trhin KK got something stuck on his fingers or inhailed some glue.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Brien..
have you figured out what ’strong side’ means??
October 8th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Futhermore Brien,
There’s something biotches like you do for me everyday, that you could never do.
Suk me, fuk me, and give me that money too.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
KK..
by the way, i forgot to mention your picture of you in the alps you posted the other day.. man you are a tall muddafukker.. was you a DE in college??
October 8th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Scapegoat, it’s just mad since I call it like i see it. Just because he is black and married to a white lady who supports him doesn’t mean he isn’t black anymore. lol
October 8th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Brien,
I’ll help you out…it’s the opposite side from the “weak side”…haha
October 8th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
speaking of College.. is there some college ball on tonight??
October 8th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Brien,
I beat chumps like you, for their clothes and their money too.
I would beat em for their tobacco, but all fools don’t chew.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Ape sells real estate. Yeah, section 8! lol
October 8th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
LMN
Oh you saw that? No, I was too skinny to do anything but play the clairinet
October 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Brien,
If that’s all you got, you need to go sit down somewhere and think about your life, boy.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
From the top down, I like it,” Hall said. “We answer to Al. Al knows us personally. It’s nice when you have that personal relationship with the owner, as opposed to trying to kiss up to every head coach who comes in. That’s when you probably have a problem. When you can sit down and talk to the owner about any problem, it makes it a little easier.”
this is why the raiders are a joke al davis doesn’t think players should answer to coaches. might be the reason hall loves oakland. the bad part is this love will not produce wins
October 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
gahhahaha..
LoL, well on the upside, it just means you will live 10-15 years longer =)
October 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
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October 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Btw
Section 8 is rental property. I thought at least you’d know that. You live your momma?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Brien, maybe she is trailer trash. muhahaha
October 8th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
No No. But I know what APE does. lol
October 8th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
KoolKell..
the paper is too long for him to read, he gives up after the frontpage and go directly to the cartoons..
October 8th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Gotta love the nation…. Rest our players ’cause the season is lost? Next season will be lost too. Every season lately is lost. Cable gets this year only. Fassel in 2009.
Did I call him a liar enough?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
lmn didn’t you get exposed by Dakota for being a european hater of the US. Can you find something to do in that “shell of a country” of yours? I see you like playing with “APE MAN” you insect!
October 8th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Yo! JerryMac..
was this it? I assume it was a teaser!? because thats not enough to satisfy the NATION.. our cravings are too substantial to be mellowed by this piece..
October 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Saints have all kind of injured people, it’s a good time to play against them.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/nflschedule/ci_10668825
October 8th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
I win again! APE MAN is back in the jungle. haha
October 8th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
none of the players respect coaches in Oakland. they aren’t required to. coaches ask players to put in extra work to get better, but if they don’t want to, they don’t have to. we need players that are self motivated or ones that actually respect the coach because they want to improve themselves as a player. Guys like Walker & Hall love it here for these very reasons and will stay here as long as they’re allowed. guys show up to meetings late or not at all, do whatever they want off the field, there is no discipline - like Gannon says.
that is why we turn over coaches like hotcakes.
if you compared the Raiders to colleges, you’d have some teams that are like Harvard & Yale. The Raiders would be a community college where students (players)and teachers (coaches) come and go.
October 8th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Brien,
What do you win? Self-esteem?
October 8th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I am really gay.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
RealClearPolitics.com
Intrade Market Odds 75.5 24.3 Barack Obama.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Theres no low that Jerry will stoop for and a few here are always willing to prove that fact.
Next thing you know we will talk about the only subject I have never seen mentioned in ROR blogworld.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
R8ER ONE Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Saints have all kind of injured people, it’s a good time to play against them.
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It’ll help, but they’ve managed to put up an average of 375 yds in 3 of their last 4 games.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
……….It’s dissapointing that Hall appears to be content with his play this season. Like Andrew Jones of the Dodgers, why should he care, he got paid ?…Sadly this has become characteristic of the modern day pro athlete : unhappy millionaire, chip on their shoulder the size of Conecticut, sense of entitlement, lack of character or work ethic….Al Davis ,( among his other many flaws), just doesn’t understand this - Bring Deacon Jones in to explain it to him…personally….
October 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Brian..
actually no, I/he didn’t.. but whats it to you? you are a petty rac!ct with a mediocre knowledge of the game. Why I know this, is because my knowledge is much to talk about, but often you showed less grip of this than me.. Seems to me all you can is say stuff about others, and copy others meaning about football..
btw, all this Me against the US spat with Dakota, started in March, when I stated, I thought your economy was going down the drain, a guy here with the moniker ‘JB’ called me out, that conversation got got Dakota started.. because they both saw my critique as an attack against the US - and both came with a history lesson of how great an economy was, but i was talking about the future ont the past (seems it came true much faster than I thought)..
Later the spat with Dakota and I was about the history of WW2 and how america was spared/or not..
and later again it was how little meaning our troops has in the war against terror, and I showed him we percentage-wise has more troops dispatched, than the US.. ( what ever that means
)
it usually ends on good terms, and always with no lasting grudges.. apparently something you could learn.. but to sum up, whats Dakota and my spat with each other to you, or rather whats your point?
October 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Hey Brien,
You run me out yet?
October 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
RealClearPolitics.com
Intrade Market Odds 75.5 24.3 Barack Obama
=======================================================
Since either Obama or McCain will be the winners. We can be assured of the Democratic-Republican dictatorship to maintain its authority over this nation
October 8th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
– Why I know this, is because my knowledge is NOT much to talk about –
October 8th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
typical raiders Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
From the top down, I like it,” Hall said. “We answer to Al. Al knows us personally. It’s nice when you have that personal relationship with the owner, as opposed to trying to kiss up to every head coach who comes in. That’s when you probably have a problem. When you can sit down and talk to the owner about any problem, it makes it a little easier.”
this is why the raiders are a joke al davis doesn’t think players should answer to coaches. might be the reason hall loves oakland. the bad part is this love will not produce wins
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Thats funny because in the Davis press conference Al made it clear Hall was Kiffin’s choice.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
“First” =Lame. That $hit is played out.
Anyway…from what I see, the players will play just as hard for Cable as they did for Kiffin. It was a good and the only move to go in-house for the replacement. He is a players coach, and hopefully he’ll get the same loyalty from the whole team as the O-line gives him. Here’s to airing it out, restoring balance, and beating the Saints.
GO RAIDERS!
October 8th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Wow. MR has been posting as me all day. He REALLY needs a life.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Nnamdi21..
LOL, good point..
October 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
I agree the Saints are ripe for taking they’ve been sloppy and on a short week should be a little spent. If we play good Spec. teams and limit their possessions they can be had.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
Senile Kings’ Aricept Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
……….It’s dissapointing that Hall appears to be content with his play this season. Like Andrew Jones of the Dodgers, why should he care, he got paid ?…Sadly this has become characteristic of the modern day pro athlete : unhappy millionaire, chip on their shoulder the size of Conecticut, sense of entitlement, lack of character or work ethic….Al Davis ,( among his other many flaws), just doesn’t understand this - Bring Deacon Jones in to explain it to him…personally….
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Too many there to collect the check.
I’ve said it before, Davis thinks these punks are men, when they are not. Thats where Davis got old and behind the times.
Some of these atletes think they are rock stars. I mean f’ it. Day one they are set for life, so they aren’t really working towards anything other than a little more money.
No pride, sense of honor or integrity.
Sadly, it seems that the mentality too many of these bishes have.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
I’m jus waiting on Sunday.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Kell, please don’t bring your Obama garbage in here. thank you
October 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
LMN: Props!
October 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
D Hall = P Bucannon
October 8th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
LMN,
He’s an idiot and proud of it.
Btw, this Danish guy Claus Christiansen, University of Copenhagen just bought the Biotech Company where my wife works in SF.
Europeans are buying up companies here right now.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I’m Joe six pack and I love hockey milfs
October 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
LFS..
LOL, I wish.. Philip Buchanon actually is pretty good in tampa bay playing cover 2..
October 8th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Kell, please don’t bring your Obama garbage in here. thank you
Kell: Speak your mind. While you can. If we remain a Republic, you won’t be able to in a few short years.
Who knows, it may be too late already, but at least we gotta try…
Vote Democrat!
Go Oakland!
October 8th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
whoa Lynn, that is a great comparison!
I remember P-Buck had the speed & ability to jump a ball and take it to the house, but often got beat. couldn’t jam bigger receivers and got beat on double moves, etc etc
can’t play press coverage like Nnamdi
October 8th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
LMN,
He’s an idiot and proud of it.
Btw, this Danish guy Claus Christiansen, University of Copenhagen just bought the Biotech Company where my wife works in SF.
Europeans are buying up companies here right now.
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Just like the Japanese did when Regan was in power.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Hall should get a lot of action this week with Air Brees (is that redundant?) Lets hope he gets help from the safeties
October 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Peace and love Raider Nation. Lets take it to the Saints this Sunday and put more of there guys on IR.
Not sure if its good news or not, but K Gramatica is out. Kinda was hopin’ he’d stay in. He’s been dinged and awful.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
KK..
yup.. Claus ChristiAnsen… =) btw, in case you should meet him =)
October 8th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Nnamdi, i’m not saying don’t talk politics at all.
It certainly has it’s place - just not on a sports thread
the democraps want a guy in the office who gladly will rub shoulders with terrorists and dictators from other countries. SCARY!
October 8th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Hello Nation!
Whats the argument today? Is it good?:) Is it normal?:(
October 8th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
D.Hall is the one that always seems to talk…..he just needs to hush seriously and focus on his opponent this week because he will be targeted early and offten by brees.He still hasn’t shown me that he’s one of the best DB play 60 minutes buddy and then talk after you have stopped playing 15 yards off the ball in the 4th mr. Softee
October 8th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Nnamdi21..
well the Ch1neese still is way more aggressive.. but again its better to be bought than to be fired..
October 8th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Hall should get a lot of action this week with Air Brees (is that redundant?) Lets hope he gets help from the safeties
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Predicated on man coverage, the Raiders seem built to play spread offenses like the Saints. Lets hope Stan Routt’s ankle is better. He says he’d be surprised if he’s not ready to go this Sunday.
They’ll need him.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
The Saints are better without Gramatica because they will try to score TDs instead of FGs.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
We match up pretty well against the Aints. The Aints are not running the ball all that effectively, but have been flinging it around the yard with great success. Pass defense is supposed to be the strength of our team, so that may be to our benefit. Also, the Aint’s have been turning the ball over with some regularity, and for the first time in years we seem to be opportunistic. For all you Dhall haters out there, he does have two picks in four games. Which is two more than any other of our 2ndary guys save Huff who has one.
If we can be somewhat imaginative on offense, the New Orleans defense is somewhat suspect. Knapp will be a HUGE improvement in the playcalling versus Kiffin. The deep TD to Miller in the lst half of the last game was a Knapp call. Hopefully we can keep the Aints off balance and win it with our offense in the fourth. Plus Jam is coming home. That’s always nice.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
EL DIRTY!!
have you carved yourself a tunnel or tattooed the blue prints on your body or what??
October 8th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Nnamdi, i’m not saying don’t talk politics at all.
It certainly has it’s place - just not on a sports thread
the democraps want a guy in the office who gladly will rub shoulders with terrorists and dictators from other countries. SCARY!
Usually I’d agree it has its time and place, but timeis running out and the scariest terror cell is sitting in the White House right now…
October 8th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Chris Johnson too
October 8th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
DBW: remember Hall told Sean Payton last year “i’ll play for you for the minimum”?
I wish he would have told Kiffin and/or Davis that.. that’s all he’s worth
October 8th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Nnamdi21 #206,
Exactly!!!!!
What was that Dubya said: “Fool me once shame on me, er Fool me twice, er, er. In other words, don’t do it again” lol.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Dirty the argument is over how gay I am. Most are saying I am pretty gay.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Yeah dramatica is a stiff I wish he was playing this sunday….. I still have the image im my mind of either him or his brother pulling a hammy after celebrating an fg lmfao!!!!!………..youtube that, that was what I call CLASSIC!!!!!!
October 8th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Nnamdi21, 375 yds are a lot better than 550 yds; aren’t they?
October 8th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
good points #216 oakglenn
October 8th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
I agree raiderrockstar bcause he surely isn’t worth the money he’s being paid so far
October 8th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Two Hundred Twenty Third!
Just hope Fargas can stay healthy.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
or not
October 8th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
You would think more great kickers would come out of the NFL’s farm system.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
At least enough to supply 32 teams.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Nobody wants to know what the taboo subject is?
October 8th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Sea Bass is hitting everything lately just not 76yrders He needs to kick touch backs on kickoffs and Shane needs to avoid punts to R Bush that are returnable. Special teams will be huge for both teams
October 8th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Wow you guys are posting fasting fast!
LMN
Tattood the plans underneath a fake finger nail I planted in last week.
MR.
Agreed
October 8th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
We are gonna run the Fargas/McFadden/Bush train for 300 yards, like we did against the Chiefs. Cab