Cable’s first post-mortem
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 13th, 2008 at 4:06 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Missed the open locker room session while returning from New Orleans, but got back in time to see Tom Cable’s first Monday press briefing doing what every other Raiders coach has had to do all too often since 2003 _ answer questions about another difficult loss.
Some quick hits:
– The second diagnosis defensive end Derrick Burgess received confirmed the original one, Cable said. He’s got a strained triceps and is day-to-day _ which means it isn’t long term but there’s no guarantee he’ll be chasing Brett Favre Sunday at the Coliseum.
– Cable rejected reports from CBS insider Charley Casserly that the club was shopping running backs Justin Fargas and Michael Bush before Tuesday’s trade deadline.
“I don’t believe that’s accurate in any way,” Cable said. “I know the trade deadline is coming up, certainly, and we’ll listen to anybody. But those are names at least I had not heard of.”
If either man were to be dealt, it sounds as if it would be a surprise to Cable.
“No one would be doing that, I don’t think,” Cable said. “Those are two really good players on this football team.”
– Raiders linemen have noted Cable’s penchant for straight talk, and that’s apparently what the entire squad got Monday.
“You are who you are. So today they got the truth. We got our tails kicked. We didn’t get it done. We didn’t complete enough balls, we didn’t hit enough big plays and we missed three opportunities in the kicking game for touchdowns on our kickoff return team,” Cable said. “Defensively we became the nail, not the hammer. You tell em the truth. It doesn’t mean you think any less of them. It doesn’t mean they’re not what you believe them to be and that’s good professional football players.
“I just kept on doing and that and they’ll always hear that from me. I don’t like the gray and I won’t go gray so they’re going to get it how I see it. And you’ve got to understand when we start winning here, this weekend when we beat the Jets it’s going to be the same way in a positive sense. I’m going to ber high-fiving them and yucking it up and telling them this is what you did, this how you did it and this is why it happened. So I don’t think there can be any gray area. And it’s got to be all the time, get right to the heart of the issue.”
– Interesting that Cable conceded Sunday was the first time he had gotten a good look at the offense as a whole because he was focused on his own position group “at the end of the field with a bunch of 300-pound guys.”
His mission now is to attempt to refine what Russell does well and concentrate on those things, rather than empty the playbook.
“We certainly put him in a lot of situations, moving him around, move the pocket, three steps, five-, seven-steps and play-action, and really kind of ran the gamut with him,” Cable said. “And I think we really found out a lot about where he is. And it’s obvious he’s still in a stage of development. It’s obvious maybe he can’t handle that much. But it doesn’t change the fact that we need to continue to throw the football and continue to find ways to get completions and throw the ball down the field.”
Later, Cable said, “I think you come to the conclusion about what you think he’s good at, what he’s comfortable doing, and you go for it. You can make the concept look three or four different ways with personnel groups and formations.”
– Cable refused to put a sad face on Russell’s 13-for-35, 159-yard, one interception bottom line.
“I don’t think it was a setback . . . for that guy in his development, and where we all want him to be as an organization, I think it was a tremendous lesson,” Cable said. “I think he’s going take this thing and grow a mile and a half from what happened yesterday. And maybe that sounds funny, but you’ve got to remember, before you can ever learn anything, before you can succeed at anything, you’ve got to fail. And certainly we failed yesterday as a football team. We all have to learn from it, coaches and players, but specifically as it pertains to him, he will learn from it. I think he already has. We’ve had some good discussion already.”
– Cynical aside _ if all the failing the Raiders have been doing since 2003 has been steeling themselves for success, we should be in for something special soon.
– The tally on dropped passes by the coaching staff was eight, Cable said. That figure seems a little high, and probably includes errant throws potential receivers managed to get a hand on. Curry had one drop which he short-armed over the middle on a pass where Russell led him directly into a potentially devastating hit.
Darren McFadden had a drop over the middle, even the sure-handed Zach Miller dropped a pass.
Cable hinted there could be a shakeup at wide receiver, with starters Curry and Javon Walker combining for just 11 catches.
“Specifically who and all that I don’t know that I’m ready to speak on that yet,” Cable said. “But I do know this. We’ve got to catch the ball when it’s thrown to us and we’ve got to run the right routes that we’re supposed to and be where we need to be on time.
“That’s the beauty of the passing game some people really don’t get. First you’ve got to protect it and then you’ve got to run the right routes at the right depth on time in the right places. You’ve got to read route conversions versus man and zone and your quarterback’s got to go bang, bang, bang, and that’s all got to happen in 2.8 seconds. So we’re not there yet. We’re taking about three and a half seconds. So we’ll get it.”
– Another cynical aside _ how many passes must Todd Watkins be dropping at practice to not get a chance?
– McFadden’s right turf toe has improved to the point where Cable said he didn’ t have his protective boot on Monday. He is hoping McFadden will practice Wednesday and said the injury has slowed the Raiders ability to give McFadden more of a role in the passing game and with the “Wildcat” formation.
– Cable is either overcome with runaway optimism or will wind up being exactly what the Raiders need to get going.
“We’re going to go into this week and we’re not going to feel real good about things,” Cable said. “We’re going to be disappointed obviously in what happened yesterday but we also have an opportunity to change that. We also have the opportunity to do something about it.
“That’s what we just got done talking about, is that this is a good football team. You guys can argue with me and write whatever you want to write but I’m telling you, I’m standing by them. We’re a good football team and we’re gonna get it right.”
– Cable had no issues with Greg Knapp’s offensive play-calling or what Ryan did on defense, although he plans to deal with defense more against the Jets than he did against the Saints.
“I’m going to be more active (on defense) on game day,” Cable said. “I really took yesterday for the first time and just listened and tried to see how the dynamics of that group, how they work and all that. They do some really good things and there’s some things I think I can help them with so we’ll do that.”
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October 13th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
uno
October 13th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
It is getting painful to watch this team. I still will, but it pains me.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
It’s hard to be a Raiders fan…
October 13th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Bench walker and play chaz whats the worst thing that could happen
October 13th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
How bad was Huff daddy yesterday ? ugh
October 13th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Lynn
Huff was TERRIBLE yesterday. But, Huff IS terrible. I cant stand that piece of crap.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Oakglenn: Please humor us, who are ALL the people you are trolling as today, just for fun let us know.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Jerry Mac..
you really need a new intro.. “a few quick hits”..
or just meddle it up a bit
*yawn* what has my life become, this is a symptom of how our guys fold.. :/
October 13th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Failed movie attempt by MR? Einstein, please explain.
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MR Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I love Fat Burger, btw. Used to stay at the motel right there on Barnham and Ventura when I attended film school one night a week, about a decade ago. 24 hr fat burger right next door. I survived on that stuff when I was down there.
There you have LMN. What movie star lives in a MOTEL? LMN, answer that question for me, now?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
this used to be a good site. Now it’s a joke. Thanks to MR and his trolling friends.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
i have no clue what you are talking about, i didn’t post that comment :/
October 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Einstein,I think Dakota lives in that MOTEL. Gahahaha
Just kidding Dakota.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Wow, I did not think it was possible, but I do believe Mike may be an even bigger idiot that Brien is
October 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
That’s not me
October 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Come on Oakglenn, crawl out from under your rock and humor us. Other than LMN, MR, and Einstein, who else are you trolling as?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Screw you
October 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
LMN that isn’t Einstein, its Oakglenn.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Why would Cable know anything about trades. Davis isn’t going to ask for his input. Cable is just a temporary puppet anyways.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Come on Oakglenn, crawl out from under your rock and humor us. Other than LMN, MR, Brien, and Einstein, who else are you trolling as?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Im staying with my theme
October 13th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Come on Oakglenn, crawl out from under your rock and humor us. Other than LMN, MR, Brien, and Einstein, who else are you trolling as??
October 13th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
It is obvious that Mike and Brien aren’t trolls. No one could pretend to be that stupid. Their ignorance is genuine.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Einstein, if you have any brain you would know everybody can’t become a movie star. That was something I did 10 years ago. Al Davis has been losing since the 80’s. Any comments about that, smart guy?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Come on Oakglenn, crawl out from under your rock and humor us. Other than LMN, MR, Brien, and Einstein, who else are you trolling as???
October 13th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Im watching Texans-Miami on re-live (as they call it) I saw it live last night as well, that was a really good game =)
Greg Kubiak, is a really good coach.. I bet Kiffin will be on his staff next year.. learning from Alex Gibbs..
October 13th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
MR, Brien, Einstein, LMN, Oakglenn, and 408raiderette are all trolls. Im out.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
What amazes me is that people are actually gonna go to the game. Why waste gas to go see a team this bad who shows no heart, emotion or an ounce of concern about this season. It appears as if the spirit of the team left at the same time Kiffin left and I just cant see anything positve coming out of this season. If I was on this team I would be on my knees praying to GOD that the Raiders trade me by Tuesday’s deadline. I get a headache every time I think about the way this franchise has been run right into the ground. Maybe one day Al will finally realize that when you continue to do stupid things, you will continue to get stupid results. Poor Jamarcus,, come this offseason he will be going through his 3rd coach in less than 1 year. How can anyone succeed under those circumstances.
SAD. THANK YOU AL DAVIS!
October 13th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I found this picture of MR. No wonder he didn’t make it as an actor:
http://insearchoftheweird.com/photos/ugly14nk.jpg
October 13th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
—”Brandon Stokley acknowledged that the concussion he suffered Sunday against Jacksonville is the 10th of his career.”—
October 13th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
I really do hope this team goes 1-15. Then maybe Davis will finally learn that he cannot continue to run this team.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
allright we gonna do dis my way.1st we gonna run M Bush till both his legs break,then run him a little more.Den we gonna run Fargas till he got no groin,den run him a little more.Den we gonna play a zone blitz on every play,den we gonna do it some more.Now can we please kick some ass
October 13th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
This place has gone straight down the drain. There used to be good conversation here but once I started talking about how I had to sell myself to get my script read in Hollywood, this place went to the dogs. Sad.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
You seem like a smart guy MR. What books are you currently reading?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
I guess the fake MR doesn’t read books.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
If I were Buddy Ryan I’d tell people Rob was adopted or was the mailmans ‘
October 13th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
What is happening in here?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Shut up Unknown
October 13th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Read any good books lately?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Reading for Dummies
October 13th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
MR, has to be depressed. He always get clobbered when he comes here.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
I got me a good deal on some pajama bottoms today at K Mart. They were only $10.47 after the %25 discount. I looked around at Sears, and the cheapest pair they had were $20. I don’t I have that kind of money to be spending on pajamas.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Rob Ryan’s play book is good for a laugh
October 13th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
So Lynn From Snot, you are reading Reading for Dummies. How is that coming along?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
The pajamas are blue flannel with brown and white stripes. I can’t wait to wear them. I hope their warm.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Charged Up! Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I found this picture of MR. No wonder he didn’t make it as an actor:
http://insearchoftheweird.com/photos/ugly14nk.jpg
Discharged up, I need my daily fix of a beautiful women. I know you got em?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
no pictures
October 13th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Not raider related..
—”Giants declared WR Sinorice Moss, K Lawrence Tynes, S Sammy Knight, RB Danny Ware, CB Sam Madison, LB Jonathan Goff, T Adam Koets and DE Dave Tollefson inactive for Week 6.Moss sits after scoring two touchdowns in Week 5 while Domenik Hixon is active after suffering a concussion last week. John Carney remains the Giants kicker for at least one more week.”—
Andrews Mom… wooooo I was afraid i had started the wrong kicker =) no surprise who the QB will be I guess LoL =)
October 13th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Good Night NATION,love thy NATION
October 13th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Here is a picture of a girl I dated about a year ago:
http://a957.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00704/65/94/704504956_l.jpg
October 13th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Discharged up, that was a good one. You have any Carribean girls you dated?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
La Milicia Negra, what have you been reading?
October 13th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
night 4eva
October 13th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
someone please trade for a WR that can run and catch.
Todd Watkins for president the way our WR’s look.
October 13th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
How active is Cable going to be w/the defense?
As active as Kiffin was? Well,we all know what happened to Kiffin!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
ABP..
ufff, you hit a soft spot there, i have such a guilty conscience.. I haven’t read a book in over 2 month now..
October 13th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Thats ok LMN, I am just curious to see if any Raider fans actually read books.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
ABP..
the last book I read was a Lee Child book
October 13th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Al can’t see the trees threw the forest.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
FIRE CABLE!
FIRE CABLE!
FIRE CABLE!
FIRE CABLE!
FIRE CABLE!
October 13th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
what good would that do?
should the players just do it by them selves??
or do you recommend us fire a coach every wee, then whos next?
October 13th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
They just need to connect the Cable thats all
October 13th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Hey Jerry when “the cable guy” predicts a win please dont post it! Yeah thats all we need is motivated Brett Favre in Oakland again..we all know how that night went.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
ABP I’m reading Flags of our Fathers by James Bradly and the Coming Fury by Bruce Clayton…
October 13th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
I’m reading HUSTLER …
October 13th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
What are reading Winston?
October 13th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
What are you reading Winston?
October 13th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
WTF happened to his blog? Seriously people use to have great Raider conversations. Now it is just insults and trolls : smh
October 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
ABP..you nosey bastard! lol..im actually reading Behold A Pale Horse..
October 13th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Football for dummies.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Glad they are shaking the WR corp. I don’t think Curry is willing to go over the middle or sacrifice for the hard catch anymore. He got his contract and have not been the same player. Curry was better at being the 3rd receiver anyways.
I hope Watkins does play.
Press conf today was good. No drama for once and very much to the point.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I am reading Cicero’s On the Good Life.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
ABP..your an immature piece of work man..instead of talking football or saying something direct, you jump on the trolling wagon. football for dummies?? is that the best you can do you aborted abortion. what a douche..smh.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
This would be a great place to start a book club. We could all agree to read a certain book, and then blog about it. We could show the rest of the world that us
Raider fans are smarter than they give us credit for. Does anyone have any suggestions for a book.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
cable said that he had no problem with ryan’s call for the game?? Was that what he really thinks or what Al wanted to here–I guess the latter! Huff has been inconsistent and i am sick of writting about DHall. His play on d almost reminds me of a slight better STUy
October 13th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
That wasn’t me Winston.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
LMN
Austria or Finland tomorrow?
October 13th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Cole, I suggest we read Charles Dickens’ Hard Times. Its title is quite appropriate for us Raider fans.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Brandon Jacobs is a BEAST!
October 13th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Hard Times it is then. Do you all got that. Everyone who wants to participate needs to go on Amazon or your local used bookstore and get yourselves a copy.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
POST 73 TRY “GREEN ESS’S & HAM”
October 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
ABP..if it wasnt i will apologize for my remarks. ive got to admit i did take it a bit tooo personal, i mean this is a public blog lol but man this teams got me on the edge.
question to the nation..is there any way the new part owners can make a move to gain more power and remove Al from his seat of power?
October 13th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
ABP..if it wasnt i will apologize for my remarks. ive got to admit i did take it a bit tooo personal, i mean this is a public blog lol but man this teams got me on the edge.
question to the nation..is there any way the new part owners can make a move to gain more power/pull and remove Al?
October 13th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
here’s the extent to which cable will be involved in the d - hey rob, how about blitzing next week so our doesn’t have to cover wr’s for 5 seconds ps. Thomas on Reggie bush is stupid. Let’s try running a nickel or dime against 3+ wr’s - rob will then do it for 3 quarters until we have a lead and then go back to a man prevent to lose the game for us.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Helllllllo! Laaaaaaaaadies! Said the Spider to the flies. Sorry I couldn’t post last night to bring condolences to your sorry lives. I made the 400+ mile trek to the Mile High City to watch my beloved Broncos lose in person. Dropped us to 4-2 you know. What is your record now? I was kind of bummed when the Broncos lost but I soon found out that not only did you girlz get blown out but the cowgirlz lost to the Cardinals as well so it made my day a little better. Sure doesn’t look like Cable is going to be the savior you girlz were hoping he was going to be. I think Kiffen could have turned your crummy little live around eventually but now you ladies have to start all over again this year with uncable and then start all over again next year with your new HC Al Davis. Sad for you ladiez thet the Chargers won. Bet if the Niners would have pulled out a victory over the Eagles a number of you ladiez would have jumped off the Golden Gate last night. Enjoy your week and try not to think of the masacre next week against Brett and the Jets.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Fine article Jerry. Thank you.
I got home early today and put the game on and watched both offenses. Man, Brees has got the timing down. He is into his wind up as the receivers are breaking and that’s at the latest. We just ran into a buzz saw yesterday. They would run their 8 yard route, break and turn and the ball was there.
Conversely, our WR’s would break, turn and slow up because Russell was clearly indecisive about where to go. Then he started forcing throws and almost gave up 5-6 picks. Cables right, he’ll get there. Lane has him going in the right direction but he had to know that there was an issue with accuracy and indecision.
Stick to the run, throw in some dump passes and the occasional roll outs where Russell can see the whole field and hope someone breaks free. Ah crap, what do I know??
WE NEED SPEED!!!!
Go Raiders!!
October 13th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
To answer your question Winston: No.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
# Hell Raiderrrs Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
LMN
Austria or Finland tomorrow?
____________________________________________________
I’m not quite sure I udnerstand by what you mean by your post.. But..
Austria meets Serbia..
And
Finland meets Russia..
if you post was a question, if they would win.. then NO, Austria had 1-1 against Faroe Islands, I believe they are about 100K on those islands..
Russia, is helluva team, their coach is Dutch, play the same style soccer as we do and as the dutch.. LOL of course =) Finland is just a bit worse than Denmark so I don’t see them have a chance..
October 13th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
For those of you comparing how Big Ben was handled with how Russell is being used…
2004 Ben had 295 attempts in 14 games. That is 22 attempts per game.
Russell is on pace to average 25-26 attempts per game.
That is only 3 to 4 attempts per game more than Ben in his first year.
Ben played only 12 games in 2005 and his attempts per game average was still 22, but in 2006 he threw 469 passes in 15 games for a 31 attempts per game average.
So things opened up for him in his 3rd year.
Even though Russell was not the full time starter last year, he was still on the team.
Having him throw 25 passes a game is not too much for a 2nd year QB.
October 13th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
DUMP J RUSS NOW hope to see walters soon and a black out this weekend 1-15 and first over all pick. hope we get a kicker who can kick 75 yards plus……..
October 13th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
DAMN! im gonna give Mr. Cuban a call and see if hes got enough in the bank to persuade Al off his seat.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Cable doesn’t get it. No matter what he does, nothing will change. He’s a temporary employee. He has NO POWER to hire/fire, play or sit players, call out underachievers & malcontents, or anything else of importance that real head coaches can do. Everybody there knows who’s running the show - it’s crazy Uncle Al, the first & last ruler of the Raider kingdom.
The players know that everybody is marching in-place right now, awaiting the next beheading.
If your a player and don’t like what the HC says, go talk to King Al & complain. He’ll be happy to de-ball whomever is causing you concern. Unhappy with extended practices? That’s ok, King Al will see that they end on time whether you get it right or not. Tired of seeing those slogans like “I’m in”? No problem, one of King Al’s eunuchs will be happy to have them removed. As long as you have a price and are able to kiss the king’s a$$, you are part of the In Crowd. The kingdom is concerned about one issue only and that is the king. Tom Cable is just the latest court jester. As long as he amuses the king and doesn’t point at the king and say look, he wears no clothes, he’ll last the year out. After that, Cable will be on his way to Seattle so he really doesn’t care either. Nobody except the fans really care any longer. Sure, they go through the moves but when all is said and done only one fact holds true, it’s good to be the king.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Andrews Mom…
bad start, huh??
October 13th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
LMN
On ESPN they show Austria @ Finland. Sign up for there fantasy sports and go to Streak for cash. They have a lot of Soccer picks you could make.
http://streak.espn.go.com/entry?date=20081014
October 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Why does the browns suddenly have those numbers on their helmets?
October 13th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Hell Raiders..
ahhhh thats what you talked about, well that under 21 =)
October 13th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
damn JB your post is a poetic tragedy of sorts lol its painfully true and i fear that there is nothing we can do except boycott all that bears the pirate logo. a sad day in the nation it is indeed.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
K-Rock while your stats are right on, the only reason Russell has had the pass attempts that he has is he had 35 and 37 pass attempts the last two games. In the games against KC and Buffalo he had 17 and 19. This is a good thing that they are letting him “play” a little more, altho that is not going to come without pain. It is very disconcerting that the receivers are not running the right routes. We are over a month into the season, with an entire preseason. You would think guys would know the pass patterns by now.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
throw backs LMN
October 13th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
under 21?
October 13th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Lets see fellas,JRuss had a tough game yesterday,check out tonights game.Eli was average at best his first couple of years,then the Super Bowl win,hes a good QB!Point is,lets give JRUSS time to grow/gel!Got to have his back as well as the entire team,Raiders!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
winston_wolf #82
“.is there any way the new part owners can make a move to gain more power/pull and remove Al”?
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Sorry to tell you absolutely NOT. Al’s limited partnership, A.D. Football, Inc. maintains 100% operational control over the Raider organization. The recent 20% interest sold to some venture capitalists last year is for profit sharing only. I’ve heard that the contract that AD has is ironclad tight and no one can unseat him for any reason. He could be in the grave and the corporation A.D. Football Inc. would still have 100% control.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
KRock 88, dont count yesterday’s pass attempts. The score forced the gameplan to go the passing game in the 2nd half anyways.
Brees is on pace to break Marino’s record. The Saints reminds me of the 2002 Raider O. They both have low sacks tally, a dink and dunk O, and a QB on fire.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
we should sit j russ like the cards sat matt l let walters play ole russ is scared back there
October 13th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
NY Giant fan was ready to throw Eli under the subway. And look what happened. Only loser turds would give up on a QB of Jamarcus’ stature after 6 starts.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
thanks for the insight JB. that al sure is a sneaky bastard listing the raiders under his corp. so barring a sale of his corporations stake your telling me there is no way to end the rule of the davis lineage!?!
once again…someone get Mark Cuban and tell him to call Bill Gates we need some cheese to bring the rat out of the hole!
October 13th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Brandon Jacobs reminds me of Tyrone Wheatley
October 13th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Hell Raiders..
yeah, U21 is like College compared to NFL, its upcoming talents or the high prized young ones, but isn’t good enough to start on the National team, we have a starter on our National team he was injured the last game, so this game he would be eligible, but his injury didn’t go away in time.. you could call it a team of rookies (the term Rookie isn’t wildly used here)
Our U21 plays against Serbia, they won the first leg with 1-0 so we need to play a good game, and its an away game :/
October 13th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
About Huff, Remeber, he’s more of a cover guy than the actual FS stuff. Huff is sort of like a man to man corner, except in the SS position. When moved to the FS position, It’s a bit difficult cuz you hav to watch anyone who goes deep rather than one guy. Believe me, though it seems CB is harder to play, FS is just as hard with a bigger resposibility.
About Russell. The reason why we drafted Russell was cuz of his arm strength, not intelligence. He’s smart, but inexperienced. Also, as bad as Russells peformance was yesterday, we also have to look at his supporting cast. I would say Russell would be near where Matt Ryan is now if he had at least one good reciever (Matt Ryan has Rodney White, Javon Walker isn’t playing good at all)
October 13th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Hell Raiders..
U21 games are much harder to predict, because you don’t know all the players, the other teams are full of unknowns, and at that level anything can happen =)
one of the best U21 games ever, was between Russia and Denmark, in Denmark, we won and the russians went basserk, never seen anything like it, it mostly reminded me of a hockey game =)
October 13th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Huff had a worse game than Russell did yesterday. Throw Lelie, Howard, Zack Miller, K. Edwards, in that same bad game mix and you have what happened yesterday.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Hell Raiders, right now the real National teams play qualification to the World Cup.. we played our last game of this half season saturday, our next National team game that counts is in April :/
But we lead our group =) so its a good intermission =)
October 13th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Winston
“someone get Mark Cuban and tell him to call Bill Gates we need some cheese to bring the rat out of the hole”!
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It’s not about money. It’s all about Al’s ego. He needs to prove that his way is tghe correct way and everybody else is wrong. After all, he is an NFL Hall of Fame member. Obviously selected due to his ability to create winning dynasties. Problem is that he’s now 25-30 years behind the curve. He can’t accept that he’s still not the dominant king. He’ll do it his way and prove he’s right no matter what. No matter who gets run over in the process. No matter what the fans think. After all, who the hell are they to question the king?
Al Davis was great at one point in time. Unfortunately that was 30 years ago. Now he’s just a delusional old geezer who’s continuing to screw-up what heretofore was a great NFL franchise. Now were just an everyday laughing stock wannabe.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Is Al Davis dead yet? Because we won’t start winning until he kicks off.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
NATION, that was it =) if there doesn’t come a follow-up question, thats it =)
October 13th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
ohh, that reminds me, is there any anaheim duck fans here?
October 13th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Anyone have a clue what the Raiders are doing at halftime,via adjustments?I dont see It!Its not Kiffin,Cable,Davis,not sure about Ryan,the players!
October 13th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
After yesterday I have nothing to say about this teams performance.
Did anyone see that Arizona game. Their passing attack is quite impressive, and Fitzgerald is a beast. Just think that we could have had him or Roy Williams. We also passed on CJ when I really wanted to get him and Trent Edwards or Drew Stanton in the 3rd. Imagine having Calvin Johnson, Trent Edwards, and Darren Mcfadden on the field together, that combination would rival Brees, Bush, and Colston.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
why dosent anyone see the positives on this game. as our head couch said in his press conference we made an improvement in our pass attempts. also now we know why the chargers got rid of Lofton.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Well, now we’re the underdog instead of the favorite.
But no worries, we’ll win the trophy again this year.
Keep up the good work Al. Just win baby.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
I played FS and while corner is more physically demanding, FS is more difficult. U have to have really good instincts and react with no hesitation. If u think for just a millisecond u get Devery’d like Huff did. I still think that he will be a good player, but it is obvious that chnaging positions has put a bump in the road. He also is not putting enough time in his studying and film sessions. If he puts in the work he can be an Adrian Wilson type guy, though he can’t hit like Adrian who is a top 5 safety in this league and plays SS. Gibril on the other hand is inhuman and is showing up big time.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
This ain’t on Lofton, look what he has to work with. He is highly respected as a coach and even brought Drew Carter from a competitive team to this squad. One can only wonder how much more effective we would be if our passing game had Drew Carter and our running game had the Hammer. With OO on the field I gurantee that we would have been able to close out Buffalo and SD.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Jerry, That was the absolute most hilarious title I have ever seen for the anti-article. I applaud whilst standing.
Post Mortem is Right…..
October 13th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Passing games are predicated on timing and rythmn. Ours had neither yesterday. It might make a whole lot of sense to see if any of the younger guys, Higgins, Sheilins, Watkins, can add a spark. Could it be worse?
October 13th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
What do you think Severe, put Bush in as FB??
October 13th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
wheres Drew Carter we dont know if he can play or not?121 now you sound like Al
October 13th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
K-Rock I agree if we can keep him down to an avg of 25 Pass AT’s we’ll have a better chance of winning. Even though Roethlisberger may have had 25 At’s avg per game his rookie year he had some games where he threw less than 20 times. Here are his stats for reg season games he appeared in 2004
Cp/At Tds TD Int
12/20 176 2 2
12/22 163 1 1
17/25 174 1 0
16/21 231 1 1
21/25 193 2 0
18/24 196 2 0
11/18 183 2 1
10/16 134 0 1
15/21 138 1 0
9/20 131 0 0
14/17 221 2 0
9/19 144 0 2
18/28 316 1 2
14/19 221 2 1
Of course our defense has to choke out the opposition like the Steelers did that year when they went 15-1 if we’re going to depend on our running game.
Hopefully Jmac can improve his accuracy too.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
How can u idiots give up on Russell? My High school has better recievers to throw to than he does.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Anyone who gives up on Jamarcus right now is a first class moron.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Hey Guys…
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Just picked out a long sleeve shirt with Large Shield on the front and LONG 75 on the back.
Not trying to push nflshop, but thought the customizable options were cool.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
I am having a hard time comparing our team right now to Roethlisbergers lst year team. His team went 15-1 his first year. They were 6-10 the year before, and 10-5-1 the year before that. Roethlisberger did not walk into the culture of losing that pervades this team. Until a group of young players decide this is THEIR team, and they are tired of getting rolled, it doesn’t matter who the coach is, they are going to get rolled. Everyone says it was Gruden that turned this franchise. More likely it was guys like Gannon, Rice and Romanowski who don’t tolerate losing.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Radraider,
And u sound like you dont know what you’re talking about. With Drew in the lineup it works two fold; it gives us the legitimate deep threat with size and it moves Curry to the #3 spot. It has been well documented that Curry works best out of the slot so Carter improves our whole lineup by making us deeper. He had also built a good rapport with Russell and shown consistent hands, thus giving J-rock a reliable target.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Cleveland Browns Rule!
October 13th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
LMN
Thanks for the info
October 13th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Desert eagle,
Bush has the size but he doesn’t have anywhere near the physicality of Oren. I mean I saw guys shy away from Oneal in games. It is hard to find iso guys that simply love to hit and that posess the ability to catch that he did. He was by far our best blocking fullback since Ritchie and is the same class as Neal when it comes to pounding on the opponent. He would transform our late game performances, I saw the guy take on DT’s and win the battle. He was a big part of our run game last year.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Look at this load of crap Al Davis has built the team around:
Michael Huff: Garbage
MeAngelo Hall: Garbage
Jammy Russell: Garbage
Javon Walker: Garbage
This team is screwed for years to come.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Undertaker…
I agree. He had 4 games with over 24 attempts. Would have been interesting to see who those games were against and the scores.
I still think Knapp had the right plan against the Saints. They are the 27th ranked pass defense in the league and are strong against the run. They held Adrian Peterson to 32 yards. They may be ranked 16th against the run, but they are only giving up 107 yards a game average.
The Vikings beat the Saints with good defense and timely passing by Frerotte. Berrian had a huge game with 127 yards receiving and a TD.
The Raiders got neither of those things. The passing game had to be effective to have a chance.
This is not the last time the Raiders will face a defense like that this year.
The Ravens are only giving up 66 yards per game on the ground this year, but I bet most of these morons in here will think Cable should just pound the rock anyway.
The Jets are giving up only 66 yards per game on the ground, but that is because they are getting scorched through the air. They are giving up 237 yards passing per game.
How do would you attack a team giving up 240 passing yards per game?
I know, say Kiffin followers, lets run the ball 80% of the time. We are a running team. Doesn’t matter what the weaknesses are on the opponents defense. Just run it anyway.
Sounds as stubborn as they claim Al Davis to be.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
How are u gonna call Russell garbage when he has slow fat lazy revievers to throw to, You guys dont know the concept of the game. Morons
October 13th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
sea of hands,
Shut up…….just kidding. Your last 3 sentences were as profound as the words of Aristotle or Plato. Truer things have never been said, this team is simply too comfortable losing. The pain of defeat is not worse than the pain of a body and mind worked and pushed to its limits in their eyes, truly sad.
October 13th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
With Cable, We are able..
To suc.k the NFL’s Dic.k!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
[...] [Raiders] Raiders Head Coach Tom Cable Disputes Trade Rumors Raiders interim head coach Tom Cable disputed the rumor that the team is trying to trade RB Justin Fargas or RB Michael Bush before tomorrow’s trade deadline. "I don’t believe that’s accurate in any way," Cable said. "I know the trade deadline is coming up, certainly, and we’ll listen to anybody. But those are names at least I had not heard of. No one would be doing that, I don’t think. Those are two really good players on this football team." Source: Contra Costa Times [...]
October 13th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Sea of Hands - you can’t compare Ben’s first year to JR situation. Although Pitt was 6-10 the year before they went 15-1 with him as a rookie, lets not forget that was because they were disseminated by injury. The year before that they played in the AFC Championship. They were a solid team with talent. Not taking anything away from Ben but I think it is allot easier when you are surrounded by talent and leaders. I think a better comparison would be Matt Ryan’s situation in Atlanta. Were they not supposed to be the worst team in the league?
October 13th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Russell was 13-for-35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The guy has done nothing since we drafted him. He is garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kiffin was right..we should have drafted Brady Quinn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I want Kiffin Back!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Jerry, thanks for Bugel’s, errr, Cable’s remarks. How the hell would Cable know Al’s shoping Fargas or Bush? You think Al is gonna run personnel things by him? NO way dude, specially not after Kwame the human turnstile was a personal choice of Cable’s. Hey Al, we need a D lineman, really, we do. Hey Al, you suck, really, really, you do.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Cable is a yes man. You can see it all through his presser. “Yeah I talked to him a few times, and he was real helpful.” Stupid yes man!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Is it just me or is Tom Cable another Joe Bugel?
Cable is a dead man walking. The Raiders looked pathetic off a bye. The firing of Kiffin set the team back two years. Throw the ball down field is the mantra of senile old Al. Without a pass rush I’m amazed the Raider’s didn’t blitz more. But, mano a mano is another Davis motto. We will be lucky if we win another game.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
I wish I knew where the bastard lived. I would pay the military to drop a bunker buster on his house when he is watching I love Lucy reruns!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
No wonder our time of possession was down. Throw the fuc.kin ball to air and the clock stops! I meant throw the ball to a WR who can’t catch the fuc.kin thing and you stop the clock!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
we pretty much looked like the art shell team 2 years ago
October 13th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
WE ARE A FUC>KING RUNNING TEAM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
October 13th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
RUN THE FUC.KING BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Let me get this straight, Cable has been a coach here since last year. Yet, he needed JR to step back and throw it 35 times so he’d get an idea of how far along on his development he was. Yo, Cable! you’ve see him every day for the past 2 years, and you don’t know what he can do? Hint, he holds the ball for too long, he leads receivers into defenders, he’s got no long ball…
October 13th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
GIVE THE BALL TO ONE OF OUR HIGH PRICED RB’S AND RUN THE FUC.KING BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Well sports fans, at least we get to use that top 3 pick come April on one more borderline bust d-back. Yep, ol Al can really pick’em, and by the way, I think the football gods r paying it back to Al n spades for all of his goon squad tactics over the years. If you don’t believe me then someone please explain why the leauge has not notified the officials that the Raiders will loose games all by themselves these daze, the close scrutiny n calls is completely unnessasary.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
CABLE IS A FUC>KING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JUST LIKE BRIAN, OAKGLENN and KROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
I WANT TO SHOVE MY CO@K IN CABLES EAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
CABLE WAS 5 YEARS AGO MOTHERFUC>KERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS ALL ABOUT SATELLITE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
BRING BACK KIFFIN F.UCKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Raiderhomey, completely agree, hate the frigin refs, almost as much as I hate Ryan’s stupid az prevent defense
October 13th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
What the Raiders should do is give the Browns DMAC for Quinn,…Anderson isnt letting go of starting gig,..Quinn is available Im telling you…get rid of Russell, thats the first step.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
to the unknown, what the f*ck are u talking about?
October 13th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
????????…will you please stop yelling?
October 13th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
TOM CABLE = JOE BUGEL
We have had the biggest buffoons coaching the last 15 years of any team in NFL history (aside from Gruden & Kiffin).
October 13th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Why don’t they throw the ball to Zach minimum 10 times a game? why don’t they blitz Howard minimum 5 times a game? Answer, Al don’t like it, so we ain’t a gonna do it, period end of story.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Norco, gonna have to disagree on that one buddy! take to many norco’s today? lol
October 13th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Wow!!!…Phillies tie it!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Sorry bob. I am a little upset!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Tyrone Wheatley - 6′0 ft 235lbs
Brandon Jacobs - 6′4 ft 264lbs
Jacobs is a BEAST. He is bigger, but his running style reminds me of Wheatley.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
wouldnt give my left nut for quinn
October 13th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Hi Lech,..I have had 3,….so far….I justthink we can right the huge wrong before the trade dealine,…get Quinn in here for DMAC,…get rid of Russell in off season and eat the contract,..start again with a legit qb,..Russell sucks and dont wantthe Raiders wasting more seasons trying to figure that out.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC………………KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
this season is already written off
October 13th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Hey ????????..remember that band in the `60`s?…….” ? and the Mysterians.”
October 13th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
And why the f@ck do we have 4 TE´s on the roster? Does Al still have Ricky Dudley dimentia? Hey Al cut a pair of TE´s and bring in some D linemen!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Nope.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Yo norco, u need a few more norco’s dude, Russel left school as a jr., he is still green as grass. Now if somebody doesn’t tell him to tuck the ball away while he flails around the pocket, Houston I think we have a problem.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Lech the season was over about halftime of the monay night opener.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
TOM CABLE & ROB RYAN ARE BUFFOONS OF MONUMENTAL PROPORTIONS.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Homey, he will never be a legit nfl qb,….. ????????????????? google,” ? and the mysterians.”
October 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Takes a real man to curse and call people names on the internet. (Roll eyes here)
I know you are upset. Men with small penizes are always upset. (See MR for example)
Just know that calling people names and typing in CAPS will not make your peniz grow.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
I would laugh if one day I read that Kiffin called the New Orleans staff and told them how to stop everyone on the offense!
LOL.
How else would Brees be almost perfect!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
I think russell will be fine, get rid of those fat lazy a*s recievers couple lineman and a season under his belt, he will be ok
October 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Hellllllllo! Laaaaaaaadies! Said the Spider to the flies. Ladiez you really need to quit arguing amongst yourselves. Neither your team or your orginization is worth the anxioty. Maybe you should follow the steps of two your own and start following soccer. In every other country in the world it is called football. Everyone knows there isn’t any American football being played in the bay area!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
? and the mysterians,..cool band. Phillies kickin butt.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I don’t know about ya’ll, but right now I would trade Al Davis for that loser Bidwell clan, I mean at least they can draft some real wide-outs.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Some of you guys are like women, emotional rollercoasters. When we lose its wahhh wahhh we are the worst team ever, Cable sucks, we won’t win another game. When we win its woohoo we are back baby, Cable is the man, we can make the playoffs. That’s why I respect Mr/Albert Bigelow Paine/ whatever other identity he uses. He may be a jerk, but at least he is a jerk 24/7.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Ask your mother. She is the only one who has been down there.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
HEY SPIDER, DIDN’T YOUR BRONCOS GET BEAT BY JACKSONVILLE ON SUNDAY??
BWAHAHA!!! MIKE SHANAHAN IS A RODENT
October 13th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Great spider is hear, my day just got so much better
October 13th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Russell sucks,..cut/trade right now,..deadline is tomorrow,..get anything for him,…or just cut him,…hes a fraud,..wasnt even that good at LSU,…not that that mattered to Davis,..he saw footage of him tossin pigskin 65 yards on his knee.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
[...] [Raiders] Raiders To Shake Up Their Receiver Depth Chart? Interim Raiders head coach Tom Cable hinted there could be a shakeup at wide receiver, with starters Curry and Javon Walker combining for just 11 catches. Specifically who and all that I dont know that Im ready to speak on that yet, Cable said. But I do know this. Weve got to catch the ball when its thrown to us and weve got to run the right routes that were supposed to and be where we need to be on time. Thats the beauty of the passing game some people really dont get. First youve got to protect it and then youve got to run the right routes at the right depth on time in the right places. Youve got to read route conversions versus man and zone and your quarterbacks got to go bang, bang, bang, and thats all got to happen in 2.8 seconds. So were not there yet. Were taking about three and a half seconds. So well get it. Source: Oakland Tribune [...]
October 13th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
come on browns, run the clock out!! pweeze!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
I predict Brett Favre tosses 5 td`s sunday,…kind of hope so,..I will be there,.drunk,…stoned,…wont really matter in the long run,..might as well see Favre go off.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
two weeks to prepare and thats the effort the team gives??
Sigh….they should have ran the ball more with Fargas and mix it up and use the wild hog style to confuse the saints defense. Noooooo…they had to force the issue to throw the ball down field more?? Controlling the clock and getting the running game going would have helped keep the saints offense off the field!
This team can’t force the issue with Russell and have throw the ball 35-40 times…not going to work yet.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
If the Phils and Rays in WS will anyone watch?
October 13th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
You would have to leave your basement to find anyone’s “old lady” you loser.
You know you are mommies little boy.
Talking smack on the internet will never change the fact that you are a an uneducated buffoon with a tiny peniz.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Ya I was there,..this dude in warm ups kept yelling at Favre, “Im glad your dad died!!!”…it was pretty emn=barrassing,..Favre heard it all. We blamed that dude for pissin favre off.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
My brother in law had just passed two weeks b4, and I took my nephews (one a Raider, one a Cracker fan). It was kinda emotional for me too.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
We need Quinn,..Davis should call before deadline and give the Browns whatever they want.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I already ate the chicken. I was looking for that drumstick for a while too. Actually I found enough change to buy a cheeseburger to!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
And actually, Mom likes lotion on her big toe only!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
You know mommy is the only one who loves you.
You are pathetic.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
He wouldn’t do that Bob. No way no how. Way too much in the kid to let him go now.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Yup! Your sooooooooooo right! LOL
October 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Im getting drunk sunday,…possibly record breaking drinking.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Don’t know what I would do without the momz. LOL
October 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Whooooooow! Close one…
Andrews Mom, I was very pleased with the last INT =)
October 13th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Why not?…if we all can see Russell not the answer,..make the deal,..eat it,…better then to blow off the next 2 seasons on the dude….just do it…now.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Didn’t see it. Too busy watchin the Dodgers implode!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Time to start Walter … he can’t do any worst.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Yeah but the old bastard doesn’t have any sense. He is trapped and I think ready to walk away! He knows there is a hugh hate towards him. When else have you seen the kid with him at a game?
October 13th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Gladiator starting on HBO right now.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
That would be a good idea. I actually think Walter could be a better QB at this point.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I would also start Walter,..hes better then Russell,..Tui is also better.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
October 13th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I think Russell tries to overpower his throws too much.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Norco_Bob Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Russell sucks,..cut/trade right now,..deadline is tomorrow,..get anything for him,…or just cut him,…hes a fraud,..wasnt even that good at LSU,…not that that mattered to Davis,..he saw footage of him tossin pigskin 65 yards on his knee.
You got that right!!
Someone should have told Davis … this is the NFL not the pass punt and kick competition.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
With Cable, We are able to,
Punt!!!!!!!!!!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Good ballgame goin on in L.A.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
???????????? Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I think Russell tries to overpower his throws too mu
That’s not the problem … he had lots of time to throw but had NO IDEA who or where to throw the ball.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
I watch SEC football closely,..Russell wasnt that good there,..no awards,..nada,..wasnt invited to NY for Heisman awards,..hes a total fraud,..big arm, nuthin else.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Dude even Favre knows when to Dart the ball and when not to!
October 13th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
I’m disgusted with the Raiders and Davis. At least they were competitive with Kiffin, now they’re back to stinking up the joint. It’s about time to abandon them after almost 40 years as a fan.
October 13th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Really upset we wasted the money!
Wait on which player?
October 13th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
i’m not gonna lie fellas. i’m nearly done with this team. this is what we get AFTER a bye week. usually i’m a silver-lining, glass half-full-type of guy, however, there is NOTHING redeeming about this team. i’m not saying they don’t have great players, they do. it’s all completely moot, though. as long as al davis is alive and in charge, this team will be a bottom feeder on the field and a complete joke off it.
how bad have things gotten when dennis green sounds like an upgrade!!! disgusting.