Raiders hold to status quo
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 14th, 2008 at 8:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders made no deals at the NFL trade deadline, which is no surprise to anyone who heard the “fire Kiffin” press conference by Al Davis or read the transcripts.
Davis thinks the Raiders have plenty of great players, a winning team just waiting for the proper direction to unleash their power on the rest of the NFL.
Raiders coach Tom Cable has fallen in line, saying he understands if people think he’s crazy, but that he truly believes in this team.
Pardon the skepticism based on the last five-plus seasons, not to mention 1995 through 1997, but Mike White and Joe Bugel said the same thing.
Look, I’ve heard nothing but good things about Cable from the linemen who worked under him as well as those who were with Atlanta when he was there. But the New Orleans game, which looked too similar to the Denver game in Week 1, cries out for a wait-and-see attitude, if not outright doubt.
Profootballtalk.com is reporting the Raiders were indeed active at the trade deadline, attempting to trade running back Michael Bush to the San Diego Chargers.
This would be a hard deal to fathom, particularly given the deal would reportedly involve a second-day draft pick.
Bush is buried behind Justin Fargas and Darren McFadden, but has shown enough to look as if he could be a steal given his size, receiving ability and athletic skill. Hard to believe the Raiders would consider this one unless they got something much better than the fourth-round pick they expended to get him.
Otherwise, what would be the point of taking him in the first place and then showing enough patience to nurse him back to health after a broken leg?
A couple of ex-Raider rumblings on a players day off:
– Former Raiders center Adam Treu remembers eating too much Cajun food during the Raiders last visit to the French Quarter.
– I realize that DeAngelo Hall was probably trying to be funny when he said it, but telling the USA Today that, “I wouldn’t change a thing, except I’d try to squeeze him for more money,” with regard to whether he regretted to signing with Davis and the Raiders comes off as bad form.
As for Warren Sapp’s references to a “hell pit,” remember, it’s only six weeks into the season. Lord knows what Sapp will come up in December with if the Raiders trudge to another season of double-digit losses.
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October 14th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
DAMN WERE DID ALL THIS COMMENTS COME FROM?
October 14th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
The mods are in effect
October 14th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Hey mod why dont you meet one on one………..right in a bathroom where no one can run. We will see how tough you are then you little bitch
October 14th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Hey mod you see the email address!!! Name the place I’ll smack you on behalf of the people on this blog
October 14th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
MR Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Love Fat poles, 408. Lick it up every time I go to LA. I think there’s a couple here in Sacramento but I don’t know where they are. Plus, it’s not the same.
……………………………………………….
The freak said it.
October 14th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
MR loves to copy the people who whip his ass on a constant basis I see
October 14th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Brien<———-happily going down with a sinking ship. I read Loyalty 101, a book most on this blog should read
October 14th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
MR I knew you were a lot of things but, OMG, you even surprised me by your comment. muhahaha
October 14th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Come on people, we know MR will be on the new season of beauty and the geek. I dont believe he is gay. That would actually take some courage on his part to even engage in losing his virginity
October 14th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Where is SouthTexasRedneck at? I hope the farm animal rapist can see this being posted………the RAIDERS WILL BE A FAKE LOSER BRIGADE IN YOUR TRAILER TRASH BILL ENGVALL SHOW WATCHING STATE. You guys love football so much because you need an outlet from your daily boring routine of beating your wife up to then turn around and cheat on her with your pig named Amy. You are aredneck and you will be beneath the rest of us in this country due to your jaded love for George Bush and the rest of the KKK administration you exalt so much
October 14th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Can i stroke anyone’s pole tonite?
October 14th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I don’t think I have ever been more embarrassed to call myself a Raiders fan.
October 14th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
The510- I was more embarassed when Fairy Rice posed as a Raider
October 14th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Al would be a freakin idiot to pull a trade like that!! Tell me that wasnt true!
October 14th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Jerry,
How much have the number of posts fallen off lately?? I feel like after the Kiffin firing, much of Raider Nation lost a bit of emotional attachment to the team–myself included.
It was bad enough that Kiffin didn’t wear Raiders gear at times, but what the hell was up with Cable and the RED t-shirt???
October 14th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
didnt barney rubble wear a red t shirt?
just yabba dabba doo baby
October 14th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
MR Says:
October 14th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Can i stroke anyone’s pole tonite?
I guess I could give it a try? My wife left me for a Chief’s fan and I ain’t had any for awhile.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Okay, fuk this place. Waste of time now.
It’s been real STR, Raider Dell, LMN, Jim, Saint, Mista, Dogg, 408, Chris, Vegas, 4eva, Shawn, K-Rock, Huff, Terp, S&B, COW, Rich Gannon’s Love Child, TommyTrojan, Glory, M, Memo, JB even BHP, Goon and KK.
(sorry to any decent people I missed)
I’ve probably gotten into it with all of you at some point or another, but it was at least thoughtful and enjoyable confrontation. This blog has turned into a zoo.
Later.
One last time:
GOOOOOOOOOOO RAIDERS!
GOOOOOOOOOOO LAKERS!
DRAFT MCFADDEN!
new post up
and…
night all.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
if that trade would of went down i’d snipe AD my fukking self. dude has lost his mind.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
When I heard Cable’s first post practice that is first thing I said. Oh no, not another auspicious Joe Bugel?!! I hoped not but unfortunately that was a premonition to an endless season!
October 14th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Gosh Dakota! Don’t go away mad! Just go away!
October 14th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
hey brien
October 14th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Any of you AD die hards want to defend AD? He is an fn senile idiot. I bet most of that stuff he read was imagined. Kiff was a steady force and his team looked a hell of lot better than Cable’s team. This team was heading in the right direction but senile John McCain.. I mean Al Davis…has lost his way. He makes a lot of very expensive but stupid decisions. If he were Emanuel Stewart or Lew Duva, he would probably pay 50 million to coerce Sugar Ray Leonard out of retirement.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I will always be here. muhahaha
I’m=Dakota
October 14th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Dont worry about the Cable Guy,…he has only 11 more games to coach,..then we will get another retread to get us to 2-14 next year….which will be better then the 1-15 this year.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
IN OTHER NEWS: A Very Happy 98th. Birthday, Coach John Wooden.
Read his writings.
RIP: Coach, Roland Ortmayer “Ort”.
Wicki search, or go to si.com/vault 09/04/89 Roland Oretmayer. A great article, about a very special man.
You will be glad you did.
Go Somewhere Raiders.
That is all, carry on.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Sirblitz,..whats your point?
October 14th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Ya ok 909,..sure thing,..will get right on that search.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Dakota Says:
October 14th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Okay, fuk this place. Waste of time now.
It’s been real STR, Raider Dell, LMN, Jim, Saint, Mista, Dogg, 408, Chris, Vegas, 4eva, Shawn, K-Rock, Huff, Terp, S&B, COW, Rich Gannon’s Love Child, TommyTrojan, Glory, M, Memo, JB even BHP, Goon and KK.
(sorry to any decent people I missed)
I’ve probably gotten into it with all of you at some point or another, but it was at least thoughtful and enjoyable confrontation. This blog has turned into a zoo.
Later.
One last time:
GOOOOOOOOOOO RAIDERS!
GOOOOOOOOOOO LAKERS!
DRAFT MCFADDEN!
new post up
and…
night all.
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That monkey didn’t mention me.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Or me.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Hey Jerry,
This used to be a great place to read about our Raiders and read all the comments but this has turned in to something not right.
Raider always
October 14th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
I am already looking towards next aprils draft,…ok a little early but Im confident we will have the top pick again,…how the Raiders are going to pay another 30+ million dollar bonus I dont know,..cap hell….geez, need another pill.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
231 Jerry doesnt care,..its all about webpage hits,…numbers,..he doesnt care about content.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Who should the raiders draft?
October 14th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Dakota,we’ll mss your humor and insight,or at least i will.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
I believe if we cant trade out of that top pick Davis will just simply not pick at all until about the 15th pick, for which he can afford that one….just keep passing on choosing until the spot is called that he can afford.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
or me. Me most of all. I’m the most important poster on this blog. Everyone knows it.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Maybe the Raiders will select me with the first pick. After all I am the most important person.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
The Raiders should draft a QB.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Maybe the Raiders will select me with the first pick. After all I am the most important person.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
or me. Me most of all. I’m the most important poster on this blog. Everyone knows it.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
The Raiders should have made multiple deals today,..they didnt even make one,..shows me they dont care about improving.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Losing Dakota makes this place a little less fun. Why couldn’t you leave instead MR?
October 14th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I want everyone to read my screen play. It’s about an idealistic young gay guy who leaves his moms trailer park for all the thrills of LA. It’s an original concept.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
A white trash script. Good night.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
I hope Favre tosses 7 td`s sunday,…man Im going to be drunk….real drunk.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Seriously MR, why can’t we just bury the hatchet and move forward? I am tired of this constant fighting.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
You’re white trash Koolkell.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Maybe if Russell blows a knee sunday Andy Walter can strat winning,..go on a season long winning streak,..make the playoffs…win it all,…Andy Walter I feel can do it.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Night people.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Why is Norco Bob even here? He says stuff no one can relate to. Anyone want to read my screen play?? It’s really good. And important.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
What the heck is going on in Oakland? Now Curry is talking trash. The same guy who couldn’t catch a cold at the North Pole is talking trash.
Instead of veterans stepping up, taking responsibility, and pushing the younger players, they all talk trash and cry.
Wilson wants someone to step up. WHY DOESN’T HE STEP UP!? He was brought here to be a leader and teach these guys how to win, but he is waiting for guys who know nothing but losing to step up.
The Rams wanted to prove something. It wasn’t about the owner or the coach. It was about their manhood. They went out and played like professional football players.
The Raiders play the blame game. They must have learned that one from Kiffin. Its all Al Davis’ fault that I missed that tackle, got blown off the ball, couldn’t cover an 80 year old woman, dropped every pass that hit me in the hands, got no separation off the line, and forgot how to pass block.
I am tired of hearing excuses from these guys. Step up and whip the man in front of you. DO YOUR JOB!
Its not about Al, Kiffin, Knapp, Ryan, or Cable. IT IS ABOUT THE PLAYERS.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
DEMOS,sick,corrupt losers,this country is in deep doo-doo,a sick demo led congress since 06.FACT! GOD help us
October 14th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
muhahahaha
October 14th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
The Raiders will get a good draft pick this year, and Davis will pick a CB and a kicker in the first two rounds.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
does anyone think we could’ve gotten craig Davis for bush?
October 14th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
In next year’s draft, we’re going to pick the fastest 40 timed WR or CB. Bank on it.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Dam - 12 minutes since last comment. Anyone here?
October 14th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Wake up, fukers
October 14th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Don’t worry about the horse being blind, just load the wagon.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
LOL - Madden, is Al Davis this horse you speak of. And….umm….are the Alameda Raider headquarters the sewer?
October 14th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Either of you guys like to suk dix??
October 14th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Those quotes are up for interpretation. I have to speak in tongues so that the big man doesn’t know what I’m talking about.
October 14th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
No, I don’t like dik. But I like Turducken. Mmmmmmm…yumm….
October 14th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
http://www.hudsonent.com/images/featureasset/meat-turducken.jpg
October 14th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
http://adam.pra.to/public/toons/neat/turducken.jpg
October 14th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
John did you say you like azz fukkin???
October 14th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Michael Bush would have been a 1st round pick had he not broken his leg. Trading him for anything less than a high 2nd round was be sheer insanity. What brilliant idiot came up with him at all? We NEED 3 good running backs. A couple weeks ago proved that in spades. Both DMac & Fargas were injured and we still had Bush to fall back on. Hell, we haven’t even figured out how to best use Bush & DMac. If we trade anyone, let it be Fargas. He’s got great spirit & speed but he’s an accident waiting to happen. The fact that someone was even shopping Bush, and you know it had to be AD or someone else with AD’s blessing, tells me that the Raider management doesn’t give a schit about winning.
Bush was a Kiffin pick. Is this AD’s way of showing Kiffin who the boss is? As silly as that sounds, it probably is close to being accurate. AD has lost his mind. His inner circle is made up of IDIOTS with Davis being the head IDIOT.
We should be aligned to be one of the top 3 picks in next year’s draft. Many will say trade down but please remember in order to do that there needs to be another team that wants to trade. Rumor has it tghat next years draft will have a banner group of Juniors coming out. They are worried about the potential new agreement between the owners and union and many anticipate a $ cap on draftees. Hence, the grand exodus to the 2009 draft class. So, who do we go for?
We need 2 OT’s, 1 OC, 2-3 WR’s, 1 MLB, 1 DT, 2 DE’s & 1 FS. Do we have that many picks? Oh well…
October 14th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Post 68. Hey - I don’t like azz fukin but I like getting my azz fuked! I can suk a mean pole too! Just ask Al Davis.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
JB - add the following to the wish list…
Head Coach
GM
New owner
October 14th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
This place is a mess but its been a mess for quite some time. The difference now is the team from top 2 bottom is a joke. There isnt much 2 discuss when you’re a laughing stock, even BHP & his left boob OakGlenn cant defend this bile any longer.
Dakota you’ll be back.
Dakota Says:
October 14th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Okay, fuk this place. Waste of time now.
It’s been real STR, Raider Dell, LMN, Jim, Saint, Mista, Dogg, 408, Chris, Vegas, 4eva, Shawn, K-Rock, Huff, Terp, S&B, COW, Rich Gannon’s Love Child, TommyTrojan, Glory, M, Memo, JB even BHP, Goon and KK.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
BHP, whats wrong with your boy Black Moses? Cant hit an open receiver to save is life! Six of his passes could have been an INT against NO.
Kiffins fault I imagine..
October 14th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Post 73 - LOL.
Al Davis is now the offensive coordinator too. As evidenced by the fact that one of the better run teams in the league decided it would be better to showcase their amazingly inept pass offense.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
first offseason move besides staff is to sighn dt from tenn a haysworth period then tj h wr from cinn look 4 a de then draft best player there at r pick be it dline or wr maybe mlb from ohio state de from pitt looks good too.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Pacman Jones - Suspended indefinitely by the commissioner. He’ll play again right after Michael Vick wins the SB. What is it about these fools that causes them to throw away a great paying opportunity for no good reasons at all? Just a big waste. Must just be too many shots to the head.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
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October 14th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Pacman Jones just made everyone that defended him look like a friggin turd. All these clowns crying about “second chances”. And Jerry Jones claiming that they would take a no-tolerance policy with him. What a phony.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
K-Rock #52: couldn’t agree more. where’s the light at the end of THIS tunnel?
October 14th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Can’t argue with Haynesworth or Houshmanzada. I don’t see Burgess coming back so we’ll need 2 DE’s. Ray Maualuga-USC is the pick for MLB moving Morrison to SSLB position. Maualuga is a real head hunter - BIG HITTER!
Just picture Houshmanzada & Michael Crabtree as outr wideout - whoa!
We can only hope.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
burp.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
fart
October 14th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
everyone’s whining like after the denver game people are jumping out of windows.
Cable is’nt the meek and mild passive dip sh*t that kiff was. kiff should have played goofy all last year and we would’nt be in this piss ass position to begin with!!!
Cable is his own man and must keep an upbeat attitude if he has any chance of succeeding. + regarding this blog its the easist to navagate thru and post with, I dont think its going anywhere any time soon.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
“Ort” look it up.
October 14th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
I hear MR is hosting a glory hole at his place, hes looking to smoke some big black pole!
October 14th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
post # 83 - thanks I havent laughed like that since I took 2 hits of 4 way and watched Blazing Saddles…
Cable is his own man!
buwhahahahahaaaa
hey fred, you hear that, Im my own man!
Just Yabba Dabba DOO baby!
October 15th, 2008 at 12:03 am
did somebody say glory hole? anybody know where I can score some GHB?
October 15th, 2008 at 12:04 am
I want everyone to read my screen play. It’s about an idealistic young gay guy who leaves his moms trailer park for all the thrills of LA. It’s an original concept.
October 15th, 2008 at 12:04 am
You’re white trash Koolkell.
October 15th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Why is Norco Bob even here? He says stuff no one can relate to. Anyone want to read my screen play?? It’s really good. And important.
October 15th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Either of you guys like to suk dix??
October 15th, 2008 at 12:06 am
You talking about Deion defends every moron WR in the NFL Sanders ?
# Reality Stinks Says:
October 14th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Pacman Jones just made everyone that defended him look like a friggin turd.
October 15th, 2008 at 12:06 am
John did you say you like azz fukkin???
October 15th, 2008 at 12:12 am
hey did u hear the pats lost big to sd, now their going to fire belicheck. hummm…. how the hell does something like that happen to such a good team that has basically been perfect + they have one the best recievers in moss. Well it just does!
ways to win
Play our young talent
0 tolerance with Hall
and keep a good attitude
October 15th, 2008 at 12:14 am
Deep, either you are blind or havent watched any Raider football in 2008.
Do you really think thats all they need to do 2 win ?
LMAO
October 15th, 2008 at 1:26 am
Trade Bush to San Diego?! I can only assume that’s not true. Why wait two years for a possibility and when your bet pays off, get rid of him. Why trade part of a real strength on your team-to San Diego?!
The jury is out on Cable, but I can’t help but pull for the guy-and not just because I’m sick to death of changing coaches.
October 15th, 2008 at 1:32 am
Let Walter have the start. What do we have to lose? If Russell still has so much to learn, let him learn it as back-up from a quarterback who already knows the playbook. Why is Russell the starter just because he makes more money? And while were at it play Chaz Schillens.
October 15th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Man, at least Jerry Jones does good things. I always wanted the raiders to trade for Williams and now the Boys give up a lot for him, but with signing him to five years they get a lot more! They know how to improve a team… like the Fins to!
I’ll put my Raiders-fan-status on stand by until we got a new owner which hires a good GM… I’m jumping on the Cowboys bandwagon!
October 15th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Nice. I just scroll down to the Leave a Reply and say in the Words of the Who, This blog is “A teenage Wasteland”.
Jerry I read your Bullet Points and then move on because this site is no longer relevant because of the people who visit here. No wonder civilization is in the shape it’s in with what I read here! Welcome to the DUMB DOWN BLOG! Stupidity will go the way of the dinosaurs.
DOWN THE TUBES IT IS!…. YODA
Nice job everybody you’re just inches away from the bottom of the barrel. Sleep tight ANG Newspapers. You’re going down. We’re not gonna take it! Never have and never Will!
October 15th, 2008 at 1:46 am
in alot of ways, this season was al’s last to show he still had the magic touch. he spent a vast sum of money on players that were questionable, but local fans, and the media, were fascinated- some insisting that al knew something the rest of us did not, some thinking he was senile- but fans were INTERESTED and showed up to games in droves. if this season is over, again, in october, al’s mystique will be finished. it matters little whether he knows it or not. coaches will avoid oakland like the plague, as will players- who were once among al’s most loyal supporters. all will know that an era has come to an end, is not just on hold. all the “we trust in cable” folks will have seen their hero humiliated, his system in shambles, as he loyally took a job that removes his attention from that system… there are alot of raider fans in my complex wearing alot of gear, arguing about the league and the raiders place in it. there is no arguing now, no complaining either- just resignation. as K-Rock said, it is about the players, in the end. as a great civil war general once said: ” i can see that my men are properly trained and equipped, i can get them to the right place at the right time, but the fighting- that’s all up to them- and that’s where i win or lose”. sadly, our guys, playing at 3/4 speed, don’t really seem to care if they win. what can be done about that? the FASCINATION with al’s raiders will ebb. al has loved to be hated. can he stand to be “mr. irrelevant”?
October 15th, 2008 at 1:52 am
Swissraider
This guy signed Pacman Jones, and gave him a bodyguard and protection essentially from himself and what does he do? You need to figure out WHO YOU ARE AND CONCENTRATE ON THAT! I care about all of ya, however you really need to figure out you’re in an illusion and it’s time to figure out the Game of Life……Comprende Amigo?
October 15th, 2008 at 2:08 am
howiedoin Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 1:52 am
Swissraider
This guy signed Pacman Jones, and gave him a bodyguard and protection essentially from himself and what does he do? You need to figure out WHO YOU ARE AND CONCENTRATE ON THAT! I care about all of ya, however you really need to figure out you’re in an illusion and it’s time to figure out the Game of Life……Comprende Amigo?
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He gave him a shot and he failed… yes it’s also Jones fault. I always liked Williams and the Cowboys, so I’m going with them for at least 3 years (hopefully AD is gone ’til then). I know who I am amigo, I’m a man which is tired of seeing all that potential (JR, Aso, Morrison, Howard, Wilson, DMAC, Miller, Fargas, etc.) getting wasted by one old senile moron! I don’t got a problem with losing some games (in fact the team I play in had a 0-8 record last year and I’m fine with that) but AD doesn’t even try to win games with this franchise… It’s just ridiculous what’s going on in the raiders frontoffice!
October 15th, 2008 at 2:31 am
Coinman, did these 3/4 speed players sign themselves to the team?
You started off great, then descended into the inevitable deflection of blame from Al that you Davis apologists just can’t avoid.
Yes, Davis needs to let it go. But how can he do that when his supporters won’t let it go? It may very well be that the day Al decides to hang it up is the day his loyal base finally turns on him.
Every single day old crazy Al probably goes through the same train of thought you just did. First he looks in the mirror and says to himself that his way is finished, and he has to retire. But just before he puts that thought into action, that little voice creeps into the back of his head and says, “But you can’t leave with this legacy. You have to win one more time, and you have to do it with the vertical game and the man defense. And, besides, the losing isn’t your fault, Al, it’s those lazy players!”.
October 15th, 2008 at 3:03 am
well well welll,another day of futility.AD is just bideing his time tho I cant figure that path out.he looks almost dead.he must be making the koolaid.THATS IT,not only is AD drinking the koolaid hes MAKING IT!!!this team has talent but its going 2 take TIME.AD is definitely hallucinating.Also youre family misses you Dakota,please come back home.we need you.
October 15th, 2008 at 3:05 am
MR’s downstairs neighbor: i thought i was clear, that al’s system and era had come to an end, if what we have seen is this year’s team. i don’t disagree with you. al signed the players, is responsible for this atmosphere of resignation in the players and the fans i know. i would just like to see the players try to fight through it. but the structure, the organization, needed for such a breakthrough just seems not to be there.
October 15th, 2008 at 3:06 am
oh yeah:GOOD MORNING NATION!!! Dakota you home yet??? =) =) =)
October 15th, 2008 at 3:23 am
619am ready 4 work,Dakota I left the key under the mat,the Fosters are in the fridge,stash is in the top drawer,enjoy!!!.Have a great day NATION
October 15th, 2008 at 3:25 am
MR’s downstairs neighbor: i can see where you took my comments to be a defense of al. i intended them to be a defense of cable. al has created, and is responsible for, the present atmosphere. one can nonetheless hope, and dream, of players being pros…
October 15th, 2008 at 4:40 am
It’s hard to believe Al would trade within the divison. That report doesn’t make any sense.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:41 am
Turf Toe Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 4:40 am
It’s hard to believe Al would trade within the divison. That report doesn’t make any sense.
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Well, do you remember last year as we traded for Warren!?!
October 15th, 2008 at 5:56 am
Davis couldn’t afford to make a run at Roy Williams because he burned so much money in Javon Walker’s bank account. The Walker signing, it appears, will go down as one of the worst ever in free agency. And to think that the guy wanted to retire and give the money back! And Davis said no. How will the next few off-seasons be affected by all the money Davis wasted on Walker, Kelly and Hall? At least Gabril Wilson can tackle, which is something of a miracle…
October 15th, 2008 at 6:07 am
RaiderfanNY Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 5:56 am
Davis couldn’t afford to make a run at Roy Williams because he burned so much money in Javon Walker’s bank account. The Walker signing, it appears, will go down as one of the worst ever in free agency. And to think that the guy wanted to retire and give the money back! And Davis said no. How will the next few off-seasons be affected by all the money Davis wasted on Walker, Kelly and Hall? At least Gabril Wilson can tackle, which is something of a miracle…
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As much as I hate Davis, I got to admit that Wilson was a great signing! 10.5 tackles vs. the Saints tells me two things: 1. he’s a great SS 2. Our D is horrible!
Unbelievable how much money he gave to Kelly (best paid DT in the NFL, what a joke), Walker (everybody knew he’s bad) and Hall (Cromartie type of guy, can make plays but gets burned to often). Plus there will be a very early first rounder (probably the fastest guy in the draft, even if it’s a RB) to sign and that means no money left for Asomugha which is our best player by far!
Thank you Mr. Davis!
October 15th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Dakota..
I feel ya pain.. hope you’ll come back soon, this place isn’t the same without you..
October 15th, 2008 at 6:20 am
My life really sucks. I’ve got herpes, my wife left me for a Chiefs fan, I lost my job and Al Davis owns my football team. What else could go wrong? If I wasn’t such a chickenshyt I’d jump off the Golden Gate.
October 15th, 2008 at 6:34 am
Napoleon Harris just got cut. We should grab him quick!!!
October 15th, 2008 at 6:36 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 6:19 am
Dakota..
I feel ya pain.. hope you’ll come back soon, this place isn’t the same without you..
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What a disgusting Dakota suckfest this blog has become….every other post suckin his ass. Fuk this blog. Waste of good time. I’m out.
October 15th, 2008 at 6:39 am
Dakota was ignorant white trash that brought nothing to this blog.
October 15th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Now if we lost MR, that would be a real loss!
October 15th, 2008 at 6:57 am
Caribou Barbie..
I fully disagree!! He is very good contributor to this blog..
October 15th, 2008 at 6:58 am
LOL..
well there are several on this blog that i like to lose before MR..
October 15th, 2008 at 7:04 am
I have to say even in light of the debacle in New Orleans and the firing of Kiffin, one of the most despicable elements of the Raiders’ current situation is Warren Sapp.To be blunt, Sapp is an ungrateful jerk. My respect for him has completely evaporated. I still respect what he was as a player, though he never seriously performed in Oakland, but he is acting disgracefully now. I have never seen a retired player slag this former team like this ass-clown. I am officially ashamed to admit Sapp was a Raider.And his play definitely didn’t warrant any loyalty from the Raider Nation.Not that he cares.I think he considers himself “Retired Tampa Bay Buccaneer Warren Sapp”.Every week some no talent beat writer does the “well guess what Warren Sapp said this time about his former team and how bad they are”.Jerry McDonald here was trolling for a quote from the ol’ QB Killa. He sure as hell took enough of Al Davis’ money for as much as he hates the team. For a lousy return on the investment, I might add. Now he is a regular on Inside the NFL so he even has an official media outlet for his Raider bashing and can do it on a weekly basis. The Raiders have issues that need to be resolved, we all know that, but in the words of Mike & Mike ” Warren Sapp, Just SHUT UP!”
October 15th, 2008 at 7:08 am
LOL.. well i didn’t respect Sapp when he was a Raider, so why should I now??
But I respect the likes of Gannon, Tim Brown, Lincoln Kennedy and Rod Woodson, whom all have said the same stuff, they just said it with sadness not like Sapp..
But the message is the same, We Suck and King Davis is to blame..
October 15th, 2008 at 7:23 am
Just shows what a classless jackass Sapp really is. He was more than happy to take the money when he was here. Soon as he gone he starts spewing all this stuff. What’s next Jerry Rice gonna come out and say how he was cheated out of playing time when he was here or maybe Tyler Brayton will say he was misused and could have been a Pro Bowler? What a bunch of overpaid, ungrateful pieces of sh*t.
October 15th, 2008 at 7:30 am
“you’ve got to understand when we start winning here, this weekend when we beat the Jets it’s going to be the same way in a positive sense. I’m going to be high-fiving them and yucking it up and telling them this is what you did, this how you did it and this is why it happened.” - Tom Cable
wow. beat the Jets? i’d be happy if we even competed with the Jets. let’s not forget that Kiffin got blown out on Week 1 against the Broncos. They both started 0-1. Now if Cable wins at least 1 of the next 3 games he’ll be just as good or better than Kiffin.
October 15th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Morning NATION
hey Maybe Timmy can help
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/archives/016136.html
October 15th, 2008 at 7:48 am
WE ARE A BUNCH OF LOSERS
STOP THE COMEDY!!
DO NOT ATTEND HOME GAMES!!
…GO RAIDERS?
October 15th, 2008 at 7:55 am
No way, MR cant leave this site. We need him as are whipping boy!
October 15th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Brown also took exception to former Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon criticisms of the Raiders in which he’s taken jabs at owner Al Davis.
Brown said if not for his intervening at times, Gannon would have had to fight his own teammates because of his attitude toward the organization.
“Gannon knows he came there with that ‘I hate the Raiders’ type mentality,” Brown said. “He came in with that and showed that to all the players. And Gannon wasn’t a very well like player his whole time with the raiders. In fact he was downright hated.
“For a guy like Rich to say something just isn’t fair to the organization.”
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Go Timmy!
October 15th, 2008 at 7:57 am
I think we will see Cable begin to get some young players more snaps as various veterans continue to perform poorly (Walker).
Cable is focused on effort and development which we need with a young team. I think Kiffin had the same idea but Cable will approach it with more tact and will get further with the strategy.
Unfulfilled potential is useless. It is a flaw in our personnel selection process that must be corrected in both the draft and free agency.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:01 am
FREE DIRTY!
October 15th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Al the best thing you can do right now is reach out to Tim Brown. He wants to help turn things around and still believes in the organization. Not many guys outside the organization wanna help you right now so here is a great opportunity.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:07 am
On radio they actually asked Timmy brown if he would manage the team, he said not right now because he has many other obligations.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Bring Timmy on Board Please Al 4 the love of all things RAIDER bring Timmy back!!!
October 15th, 2008 at 8:08 am
I say Licoln Kennedy would me a good manager.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Sorry guys with the bad spelling. Its early,lol.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:25 am
…………Perspective, as seen through hindsight, can be instructive as well as painfull. Having been raised in Los Angeles, the Rams , although usually good enough to make the playoffs, never could win it all. I remember a letter to the L.A.Times from an outraged fan ,after yet another playoff loss to either Minnosota or Dallas, that described the Rams as “the biggest choke kings of all time “…
……..Then the Raiders come to town and win the Super Bowl after only two years here. We all wished good riddance on the Rams , ( who had moved to Anaheim to chase money in a land steal that Gene Autry voided), and praised our good fortune at now having a REAL team to root for…..
……..Then it all started to go downhill, an ass-kicking in Chicago ,where upon even third string QB David Humm had his teeth knocked out signaled the beginning of the end…the next year, Marcus Allen fumbles while almost scoring the winning touchdown against Philly, and we tank after that…..Then comes the Marc Wilson disaster,( another strong arm with a penchant for both being oblivious to a backside rush and throwing interceptions as they seemed directly aimed at the defender), …the Marcus Allen benching,( the first significant hint of senility for you-know-who -and possibly why…), The Jay Schroeder disaster, the Bo Jackson Injury, and the Art Shell slide to…oh my God…mediocrity…..And then….Oh well, you know the rest…..Isn’t it sufficently humbling to concede the fact that wouldn’t it be great to just be mediocre instead of laughingstock ? I’ve heard the expression “Don’t chase bad money with good money.”…I hope that if there is ANY sense left in Al Davis’ , he understand that there will soon come a time that many of us will simply find other things to do with our discretionary time unless he brings in a competent G.M……….
October 15th, 2008 at 8:26 am
# choader Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 8:07 am
On radio they actually asked Timmy brown if he would manage the team, he said not right now because he has many other obligations.
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Meaning - Hell yeah, but not as long as King Davis is alive..
October 15th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Of course Tim Brown wants to help..if any of you “fans” were paying attention instead of making the blog your own piss and cry chat room, you could figure things like this out for yourself…why listen to Sapp? Everyone knows he’s the “a-hole” to be around…look at Derrick Brooks, Jon Lynch, Ronde Barber, true professionals..it’s a reason Sapp got kicked to the curb, and that is no one wanted to deal with his mouth anymore..
October 15th, 2008 at 8:29 am
Why is Raider management not sold on Michael Bush? Was Bush a Kiffin pick that Al wants to cut ties with, is he not physical enough? I don’t understand why they would wait a year for him to get healthy, play him sparingly in a few games, then want to unload him. To me Bush looks like a more complete back than McFadden. They must know something that we don’t, or Al is just batshi.t crazy.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:29 am
o/~ Copenhagen - Kansas city kill… o/~
October 15th, 2008 at 8:30 am
“…there will soon come a time that many of us will simply find other things to do with our discretionary time… ”
What a glorious day indeed that will be. The one bright side to this prolonged nightmare. And don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:30 am
The media is driving this “Raiders as the laughingstock of the league” train..yes, Dallas has had wiining records, but hasn’t won a single playoff game in years…the Jets..? Last Super Bowl APPEARANCE was in the ’60’s…the Bills? Haven’t won a playoff game since last decade..Miami..? haven’t been to the playoff since 2000…San Diego..? WINDOW CLOSED, SHUT TIGHT, clamps down…no Super Bowl wins in 30 years of existence…
October 15th, 2008 at 8:32 am
I would make fun of the Raiders to if I was a fan of another team that got their azzes kicked by the Raiders annually..now a few bad seasons and they just vault to the top of the “NFL’s Worst”…
Classic B.S.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:35 am
RIO..
well, aren’t we?? I mean the laughing stock? Detroit got rid of Millen, we still have our fool to drag us around..
October 15th, 2008 at 8:36 am
In another few years that fat Sapp pile of beans will j be just another retired NFL buffoon like Mike Golic, entering his fat name in food eating contests to keep his name in the “spotlight”..
October 15th, 2008 at 8:37 am
we are not the worst, we are “only” the 2nd worst.. KC still worse than we are..
October 15th, 2008 at 8:37 am
This isn’t about a team going through a rough patch. This is about grave concern for the Raiders ability to get out of this mess because of the unorthodox methods of the Owner. Firing coaches every year for 5 years is not normal. Keeping a D. Coordinator who is no good is not normal. Spending money on KNOWN busts does not give confidence for the future.
This is not about the ability of the Nation to hang tough during a rough patch, this is about a grave concern that the current leadership is not up to the task of getting this franchise on its feet!
October 15th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Well, back in March the team needed a FA WR, and they missed on Berrian and honestly, the FA pool wasn’t deep..they had to get someone..Al missed on Javon but I’m willing to give him a pass on that one..
October 15th, 2008 at 8:44 am
at least i still have my dodgers and lakers.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:45 am
Most of the people on this blog are unfortunately in the minority..no one cares what a faceless voice has to say about the state of the football team..a lot of folks don’t get all high strung because they have real world issues and don’t have the luxury, like some, to come in and BLOG, ALL DAY LONG…no, after a hard week at work, a lot of folks still like to go to the stadium and watch because of the entire atmosphere..so with that, yes, there will be another 60,000 of us there in Sunday, win lose or draw….
October 15th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Look man, you LA fans need to go in the blog for you LA team…don’t come in here trying to score points with your “home” teams..and for the record, Lakers aren’t going to the finals again this year, bruh..they got lucky last year…and the Dodgers..lol..I can’t lie I was pulling for them, but I was estatic for ol Matty Stairs..I felt real good for him..all those years he was with the A’s while they were bad, and he was one of the only guys to bring his stick to the yard in those times…good for you, Matt!
October 15th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Don’t forget the Cardinals, Lions, and Bengals.
How many players from the Bengals got arrested last year, and the year before?
October 15th, 2008 at 8:53 am
hey the cardinals are putting up alot of points and their D hits hard and makes plays…
October 15th, 2008 at 8:53 am
One thin I love about the system in american sports is the ability of going from worst to first. This is possible because everybody has about the same money to spend on salaries, the worst team gets the best draft pick and of course free agency… so everybody can go from worst to first in just about 3 years, except if your owner is Al Davis.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Some thoughts on our 6th Annual coaching search:
If Al were to bring in some executive with a fresh football mind to revive this offense, they might want to consider copying what Arkansas did with McFadden, and what Miami is currently doing (since this is a copycat league after all). In that vein they might consider Houston Nutt (current Ole Miss coach) for a head coach spot, or David Lee (current Miami QB coach)and Gus Malzahn (current Tulsa OC) as an offensive coordinator, so they can run a variation of the single-wing that McFadden had alot of success with. The single-wing is very effective if your best players are multiple RB’s and a FB (does that sound familiar). It would at least give our offense a crutch, until the WR’s develop, and it would introduce a wrinkle into our red-zone offense, which is severly limited right now.
October 15th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Raider Rockstar. I really liked where you were going with your first paragraph. Your second paragraph however shows that you’re just another spoiled fan that doesn’t deserve a winning team. Just for that, I’M THROWING THE JET’S GAME TOO!
October 15th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Why, oh why, won’t the give Todd Watkins a shot being that their WR corps is in shambles?
October 15th, 2008 at 9:05 am
RaiderFan in Oakland Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Well, back in March the team needed a FA WR, and they missed on Berrian and honestly, the FA pool wasn’t deep..they had to get someone..Al missed on Javon but I’m willing to give him a pass on that one..
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Al should have saved his money. He could have signed Javon Walker for half of what he ended up giving him. The Broncos tried to trade him and no one offered. You don’t pay a 29 year old receiver with a busted up knee top 10 money. Now our hands are tied for significantly improving the receiving corps because of all the money tied up in one of the top5 free agent busts of all time!
October 15th, 2008 at 9:07 am
I doubt that, given the present situation, even Matt Millen would take the G.M. job in Oakland if offered….Maybe Jimmy Johnson would consider it ….for enough money….
October 15th, 2008 at 9:08 am
BART Bridge Brigade Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Some thoughts on our 6th Annual coaching search
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Al just has to go on and hire Jim Fassell. He is the only qualified coach that will work in this environment. No point in getting some young guy who will leave in 4 years for greener pastures ala Gruden. We have what we have with Davis. If you are a Raider fan, you kind of have to accept it. Go get Fassell. JaMarcus needs a competent and stabalizing coach!
October 15th, 2008 at 9:10 am
ARI
MIA
CLE
HOU
CIN
SEA
SF
STL
DET
OAK
KC
Thats how I rate the 12 worst teams in NFL
October 15th, 2008 at 9:11 am
so what time are we gonna get a fix?
Is Dakota really gone?
Will Timmy help rescue the franchise?
Will LMN ever experience a awesome RAIDER tailgate party?
How much time will DIRTY get?
These are the questions that I need answers to…. =)
Oh wTF is Cole doing?
October 15th, 2008 at 9:11 am
I can’t believe that Al Davis didn’t trade Nnamdi Asomugha. We are going to lose him next year. Might as well get the draft picks. I hope I am wrong. I hope Nnamdi would like to resign here. But chances are we are going to lose the only pro-bowl player that this team has….
October 15th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Raiderfan in Oakland…I’m sorry, I suppose “Raider Nation” only applies to those living in the Bay area ? Take a nap, or grow up already…….
October 15th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Think Al Davis would be arrogant enough to sign Pacman Jones?
October 15th, 2008 at 9:14 am
hmm Serbia looks strong :/
October 15th, 2008 at 9:16 am
408..
i was seconds from buying sportsvacation to SD dec 4th, but when Kiffin was fired, i didn’t want waste the money..
plane+hotel+ticket= $1750+++
So I wait for better days before..
October 15th, 2008 at 9:17 am
408..
btw, did you got to hear it? when you got home?
October 15th, 2008 at 9:22 am
LMN
you know I did.. I thought it was cool (= … I hear you on saving your jack the only other game I’m going to this year is KC and thats only because my friends from south Dakota are coming to that game..
October 15th, 2008 at 9:22 am
If Al really believes that we are
“a winning team just waiting for the proper direction to unleash their power on the rest of the NFL”
then he needs to pay the money for a descent coach.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Cable in deep #156
i’m a spoiled fan that doesn’t deserve a winning team? where did you get that from? you must be a magician, because you just pulled that comment out of your butt!
and for the record, it’ll be hard for you to throw the Jets game with Rob Ryan’s LIGHTS OUT defense on the field. He has to showcase his skills if he plans on working there next year. He has to sell himself to the owner & GM this week.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:27 am
I believe Tom Cable over PFT. Bush wasn’t being shopped to San Diego - especially not for a 2nd day draft pick
Al probably made them some crazy offer like a straight across trade of LT for M Bush
October 15th, 2008 at 9:44 am
anybody think we should go after LB Napolean Harris or WR Terrance Copper? could claim them off waivers…
October 15th, 2008 at 9:50 am
As Rob Ryan is finishing off the final year of his contract, I hope Al is seriously considering another direction for this defense.
In that vein, please Al take a long look at Everett Withers, current DC of the UNC Tarheels. This guy runs a man coverage unit, with mostly 4 man pressure (sound familiar). He was the defensive backs coach for the Titans for 6 years, where he developed Pacman among others. He also turned around the Texas Longhorns defense back in 1998. Currently UNC leads the country in interceptions. This guy is a bad mamma-jamma, and would fit Al’s defensive philosophy like a glove. Check him out Nation.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:51 am
swissraider - totally agree.
Sustained success is very difficult and a sign of excellent management, organisation and ability to identify, attract and retain talented staff and players.
Sustained failure is almost as remarkable and a sign of incompetence.
5 1/4 years and counting……
anyone lay me odds on 10 years of losing back to back losing records?
Tolworth
October 15th, 2008 at 9:52 am
RRS, you just don’t get it do you? Mr. Davis is so upset at the fans that think he is the blame for the state of our nation that he has instructed us coaches to throw games until you fans show him some respect. You don’t think that he comes onto this blog with his maginfying glass and read what you fellas are saying about him?
October 15th, 2008 at 9:53 am
RRS..
of course you believe AL over any media, none of us thought different from you..
Bush was a Kiffin pick, and Al wants to clean house..
Harris, who would you cut? Copper maybe, but he realy have to be better than what we got, and our ST unit is okay..
October 15th, 2008 at 9:54 am
what would you guys think about Mike Singletary as HC and Ken Norton Jr as the new D-Cord? That would bring some toughness..
October 15th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Al Davis shame on you for trying to trade bush for a 2nd day pick and to the charges for all places. we need the three backs, fargus has already been hurt Mcfadden had turf toe and your going to trade bush.
unbelieveable. i love the raiders but come on man
what were you (al) thinking. luckily they backed out of the deal at the last minute. what u should have done is cut Walker and tried to get roy williams
for some picks. now that would have mad sense.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:59 am
I’d cut Sam Williams or Jon Alston to bring in Napolean Harris. Whichever player is more valuable on special teams gets to stick.
I’d cut Hiram Eugene or Rashad Baker to bring in Copper. Whichever player is more valuable on special teams gets to stick. Maybe even place Ben Troupe on IR? Hasn’t been able to practice or play since he was signed..
October 15th, 2008 at 10:02 am
who bout cutting Sam willams!
October 15th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Ajoakraider: trading a 1st, 3rd & 6th to the Lions for Roy Williams doesn’t make sense. The Cowboys could afford to do that, but we couldn’t. Especially if we had to cut Walker to do it and pay him all that money for essentially nothing. Even though it looks like (right now) we’re not getting any production out of Walker, i’m holding out hope for the future.
good teams build through the draft, not free agency. we need to solidify both the o-line and d-line in April’s draft. If we don’t have a good o-line for Russell & McFadden (our future), it’s not gonna do any good to have a lights out receiver, especially at that price. If J-Russ & D-Mac are ineffective due to the o-line and we can’t stop the run on D - we aren’t going to win any games. BUILD THE LINES!!! battles are won & lost in the trenches
October 15th, 2008 at 10:09 am
# 408RAIDER Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 10:02 am
who bout cutting Sam willams!
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of course! i had forgot Al had signed him again.. Harris is way better than Williams.. thats an upgrade.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 9:54 am
what would you guys think about Mike Singletary as HC and Ken Norton Jr as the new D-Cord? That would bring some toughness
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Singletary is a highly regarded coach, therefore he would not come here. He will have other choices and will probably receive counsel not to come to the Raiders given our organizational philosophy.
The best bet for veteran leadership is Jim Fassell. He should have been hired over Cable, so that the team could get used to Fassell now instead of waiting for the offseason. The rest of these coaches on the current staff will be released. Ryan, Knapp, Cable, all out.
Get Fassell
October 15th, 2008 at 10:16 am
RaiderRockstar,
If Roy Williams was available and signable, the Raiders should have traded to get him. Here’s why?
1. J-Russell will not develop into a competent QB without a good reliable receiver that fights for his QB and makes plays. No young QB in the league could succeed with the Raiders current roster of WRs
2. Finding receivers in the draft that can make an immediate impact is difficult to do
3. Given above, trading draft picks for a known commodity (that’s young) would, to me, be a good idea
October 15th, 2008 at 10:19 am
Whos gonna do the picture humor now that Dakota is gone? Also Dakota was very good @ eye candy.. I see this as a major issue.. Dirty was getting pretty good but he is gone for a while also… Fuk!!!
FREE DIRTY!!!!
October 15th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Kiffin for Clemson?
October 15th, 2008 at 10:21 am
408..
get your South Dakota friends you are going to the KC game with, to find ‘Dakota’ and cheer him up =)
October 15th, 2008 at 10:22 am
I just want to know how TO is taking this trade… Hee hee hee
October 15th, 2008 at 10:22 am
S&B, but not at the price that Dallas has paid. Williams is good and will strengthen the Cowboys offense but that trade is a real smart move by the Lions. They can use those picks for a real rebuilding exercise.
In 2009, we also need picks - not more very expensive veterans.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:25 am
scottish, i hope Kiffin does apply for the Clemson job. somebody needs to hire the liar! haha
S&B: do you know what the numbers are on Roy Williams new contract? i imagine he’s being paid as one of the Top 10 WR’s in the league
October 15th, 2008 at 10:26 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 9:54 am
what would you guys think about Mike Singletary as HC and Ken Norton Jr as the new D-Cord? That would bring some toughness..
Odale vatos, if yoo reely want to win in Oak Land Tomas Flores is the only choice for HC. HeTomas Flores would bring in Antonio Munoz as OC and Manny Fernandez as DC. VIVA LA RAZA!!!
October 15th, 2008 at 10:27 am
LMN
I would try to do that but they are all pot heads and Dakota might shoot first and ask questions later if I tried to send them his way…
hopefully hell get over it.. its been a ruff year for him tho.. A man can only take so much loosing you dig? first his lakers then his cubbies and now OUR RAIDERS … I totally understand…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Cowboys offered the Raiders Flozell Adams and Terrell Owens for Derrick Burgess & Javon Walker!
Raiders declined…
October 15th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Scottish Raider,
So what alternatives do we have right now for getting Russell a receiver to grow with. A receiver that is a star. I don’t see Russell being successful with the receivers we have now. That’s why the trade for Williams sounded good to me. A young guy, a dominant talent and a guy Russell can grow with.
Javon Walker wasn’t good enough for Cutler
Ashlie Lelie wasn’t good enough for JT O’Sullivan
Drew Carter wasn’t good enough for Delomme
Yet these castoffs are good enough for Russell….
WE HAVE TO GET RUSSELL SOMEBODY OR HE WILL BECOME A BUST!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Sad thing is we haven’t got any trade bait..
October 15th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Curry wasn’t good enough for Brooks, Collins, Walter, Culpepper or McCown?
Williams wasn’t good enough for Kitna?
October 15th, 2008 at 10:32 am
I also question the ability of a rookie wide receiver to come in and make an immediate impact. Its a toss up with a young player. And usually a young receiver has a number two to take some of the pressure off.
Without a WR, Russell will be a bust. How much would that cost us?
October 15th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Moss wasn’t good enough for Collins, Brooks or Walter?
October 15th, 2008 at 10:32 am
# 408RAIDER Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 10:27 am
LMN
I would try to do that but they are all pot heads and Dakota might shoot first and ask questions later if I tried to send them his way…
hopefully hell get over it.. its been a ruff year for him tho.. A man can only take so much loosing you dig? first his lakers then his cubbies and now OUR RAIDERS … I totally understand…
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LOL,”Bang-Bang” - “Get off my property” “you scumbags”
You forgot, he also is on the Palin boat, so he is going to lose that one too..
He’ll be back, otherwise I need to start a discussion about america, then he’ll sure come back =)
October 15th, 2008 at 10:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
Curry wasn’t good enough for Brooks, Collins, Walter, Culpepper or McCown?
Williams wasn’t good enough for Kitna?
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Curry is a serviceable number 3 receiver. That’s it.
As for the 2nd sentence…its more like Kitna wasn’t good enough for Williams!
October 15th, 2008 at 10:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Moss wasn’t good enough for Collins, Brooks or Walter?
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Really????????? are you really saying this????
October 15th, 2008 at 10:38 am
The Lions have a crappy o-line. That is why Kitna was constantly on his back and they can’t run the football. I think he’s been sacked the most of any starter the past 2-3 years in DET. If the Lions would have built the line first instead of wasting picks on WR’s they might have won some games.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:38 am
LMN
click on my hyper link and listen to track #3 it will be stuck in your head all day also ….
October 15th, 2008 at 10:41 am
signing bust RT Kwame Harris from the 49ers bench and making him starting LT wasn’t a cure all for our o-line (obviously). Neither was moving DE Kelly to DT and paying him a bunch of money a fix for a poor run defense.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:45 am
my point from all these posts is this:
you have to have all the other players in place for your playmakers to make plays. how much use was Randy Moss in Oakland? how much of a stud would Adrian Peterson be w/o that awesome o-line in front of him? big named players doesn’t always equal big time success. See Russell, McFadden, Walker, Hall, Wilson signings as proof
October 15th, 2008 at 10:57 am
Vatos! The problem with the nation is they don’t have any latino coaches or players. Start with making Tomas Flores the next coach and he will get players like Gonzales from the Colts and Martinez from the Broncos.
October 15th, 2008 at 10:57 am
RaiderRockstar,
The O-Line for the Raiders does need to get better. But right now its serviceable. Could it be better? Yes. Let’s use our 2nd rounder next year to fix it. The D-Line has actually played ok. The problem with the defense, IMO, is the abysmal play of