ESPN: Mort said he was sorry
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 14th, 2009 at 7:33 am in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s how ESPN ombudsman Le Anne Schrieber reacted to Chris Mortensen’s reluctance to check stories with the Raiders because of their history of denials.
I sent an e-mail to Schreiber immediately after the report to determine if a “privilege policy” existed at ESPN with regard to fact-checking.
A column by Schreiber currently posted on ESPN.com includes a passage which says Mortensen agreed he should have checked the story and in fact apologized to CEO Amy Trask.
On Sunday, Jan. 4, on “NFL Countdown” and later on ESPN.com, senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen reported that the Oakland Raiders were negotiating to sell a controlling interest in the team to a billionaire investor with a known hankering to move an NFL franchise to Los Angeles. Raiders chief executive Amy Trask issued a heated denial of Mortensen’s report, saying, among other scalding things, “Chris contacted no one with the Raiders to ascertain if there was any truth to his report. There is not.”
When asked for a response to Trask’s statement, Mortensen sent The Associated Press an e-mail, noting “The Raiders have lost the privilege with me of running stories past them for comment. This stems from their history of denials to most stories I have reported — as well as others in the media — when those stories have eventually proven to be true.”
My first thought upon learning of this from my usual and best source — my mailbag — was that it couldn’t be true. Chris Mortensen wouldn’t say that. He knows perfectly well that a reporter must always give the subject of his story a chance to respond, no matter how frustrating and predictably unfruitful that response is likely to be.
A quick check of ESPN.com showed that Mortensen had issued a second statement, noting that he regretted invoking the notion of it being “a privilege” to communicate with him, but he referred again to the Raiders’ history of denials. It was not clear to me whether he — and by extension, ESPN — was scuttling the basic journalistic principle of allowing subjects the opportunity to respond.
When I e-mailed my concern to Vince Doria, ESPN senior vice president and director of news, he promptly wrote back: “A call should have been made to Raiders.” Later, I talked directly to Mortensen, who said even before I could ask, “I was wrong on both counts: one, for not soliciting comment, and two, for daring to label it a privilege. I called Amy Trask and apologized.”
Whew. A one-time lapse. But here is my unanswered question: Why didn’t someone at either ESPN’s television or online news desk remind Mortensen of that basic journalistic principle when he needed reminding?
And just as importantly, after failing to do that, why didn’t someone at ESPN elicit that straightforward “I was wrong” statement that Mortensen handed me on a platter? It would have reduced the glare considerably.
Side note: Mort is reporting Giants offensive coordiator Kevin Gilbride is visiting the Raiders Thursday for an on-site interview as a head coaching candidate.
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January 14th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Mort bites
January 14th, 2009 at 7:41 am
I’m SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SorRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY Bwahaaaaaaaa HaWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
January 14th, 2009 at 7:44 am
HOW DO you KNOW mORT???
January 14th, 2009 at 7:44 am
he and the company he works for and flat out liars and we should not believe anything they say.
January 14th, 2009 at 7:45 am
I wouldnt believe you if the story was about me,punk
January 14th, 2009 at 7:45 am
The Raiders are so covert that any “insider” news regarding them has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Al is probably having secret meetings with coaches in Piedmont like he did w/ Gruden.
January 14th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Didnt that billionair investor also deny it. If thats the case then where the hell did Mort get this crazy story from????
January 14th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Funny, but wasn’t this reported a couple of days ago? Anyways…Good for Mort. what an_______…Goes to show that you don’t mess with Trask…LOL
January 14th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Mort is reporting Giants offensive coordiator Kevin Gilbride is visiting the Raiders Thursday for an on-site interview as a head coaching candidate.
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I wonder if he checked with the Raiders first about this story?
January 14th, 2009 at 7:54 am
repost:
I’m guessing Al Davis meets with Bates today and Gilbride tomorrow …
the good news? a lot of Raider fans feared that either Rob Ryan or James Lofton would become the next Raiders HC after the season ended. Ryan was given permission to leave early and Lofton was canned. Maybe loyalty isn’t everything to Davis anymore? It’d be nice to have some coaches that actually produce. With the exception of Washington & Lal, hopefully the new HC will get to fill out the rest of the coaching staff?
January 14th, 2009 at 7:59 am
John Clayton seems to think that Tom Cable will return as HC next season for the Raiders. said Al Davis respects him and thinks highly of him.
My guess is that since the rooney rule has been met, unless Gilbride blows Al Davis out of the water in his interview tomorrow and makes minimal demands, Cable will be named HC very soon. I’d say sometime between 1/16 - 1/23.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Jason Jones (Sac Bee) writes:
The report cited former Raiders’ employee Mike Lombardi’s site, nationalfootballpost.com, that the Raiders wanted to interview Moss about being their defensive coordinator, but were denied permission by the Packers.
Teams cannot forbid assistants for interviewing to be a head coach. Moss interviewed with the Raiders Monday.
Just checked in with the Raiders about reports that James Lofton has been fired as wide receivers coach.
Senior executive John Herrera said Lofton is still with the team and that it would be up to the next head coach to decide what capacity Lofton would be used in.
So I asked if that meant whoever the next head coach is could keep Lofton as receivers coach if he chose, Herrera said reiterated that Lofton would be used in whatever role the new coach wanted.
It sounds like Lofton, who probably had the hardest job of any position coach on the Raiders in 2008, will earn his pay by not coaching receivers. Because he is still under contract, he could be reassigned in the front office. That’s what happened to Charles Coe when Lofton was hired.
Herrera would not confirm that quality control assistant Sanjay Lal would be the new receivers coach. Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reported Lal signed a two-year
extension and would be promoted to receivers coach.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:07 am
so will James Lofton be retained as a scout, quality control assistant or TE coach?
January 14th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Chargers coach Norv Turner got rid of four assistants on Tuesday, two days after San Diego was eliminated from the playoffs by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Secondary coach Bill Bradley and tight ends coach Clancy Barone were fired. The team said offensive line coach Jack Henry and assistant secondary and quality control coach Kevin Ross will not have their contracts renewed when they expire in February.
Turner didn’t immediately return a phone call seeking comment.
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LOL. Norv has got to be sweating right now
January 14th, 2009 at 8:10 am
I read this entire article on another website yesterday, way to cut and paste Jerry! It blows that we’re losing Schneider, our Special Teams rocked this year, but that, hopefully, was due to the talents of Justin Miller and the emergance of Jonny the beast Higgins, more than the coaching of Schneider.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:17 am
BFD
January 14th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Buddy Ryan (0 superbowls) comments on Gilbride (1-0 in Superbowls) “He has no business coaching in the pros. He should be selling insurance, he is a wimp.”
January 14th, 2009 at 8:23 am
My guess is that Cable has the job and is still working with Al to fill the OC and DC jobs. The process is clearly proceeding slower than expected as Cable deals with family affairs.
In their 4 hour interview, Cable likely told Al that of the remaining coaches, Schneider is Kiffin’s boy, Lofton is out, Lal is good, and Martindale is OK with him either as DC or LB coach(hopefully after Martindale detailed how he would stop the run better than Ryan). Martindale then OK’d the Washington hire.
HC Cable
OC Bates/Gilbride
QB Hackett
OL ?
WR Lal
TE ?
RB Willingham
ST ?
DC Martindale or Donatell
LB ?
DL Millard?
DB Washington
Def. Quality Brown
January 14th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Buddy Ryan was DC of da Bears when they won the SB,and most gave credit 2 Ryan not Dikta
January 14th, 2009 at 8:30 am
BSJ - Millard & Martindale should not be retained. The d-line and lb’s have been terrible since Rob Ryan took over. Just like Rathman & Schneider were “Kiffin guys”, M & M are “Ryan guys” … I hope these clowns follow Rob the Blob to Cleveland.
I’d rather have Donatell, Moss, Waufle or even Bob Sanders than those 2 losers. Maybe Brick Haley can coach our d-line unless he’s sold on LSU?
January 14th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Ditka is the reason the Bears were so good, Ryan was a stooge with great players.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:33 am
well they won it together.and Ditka had Sweetness
January 14th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Than Ryan went oHouston and punched Gilbride in the face…still “must see funny tv”.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Jeff Fisher is the longest tenured HC in the NFL and Gilbride groomed Eli Manning and did all the playcalling as OC for the Super Bowl Champs last season. Now he’s being interviewed as a HC in 2009.
What happened to Buddy Ryan? became a bust HC for the Cardinals and got canned, never to return to the NFL again and that was 14 years ago. To his credit, I think Buddy (74) is 2 years older than John Madden.
Buddy, Rex and Rob are all a bunch up overhyped garbage coaches. I hope Rex Ryan does get the Jets HC job and inherits the Favre drama.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Raiders need to stop being so wishy washy….its no way to run a organization. Perhaps in the 70’s/80’s that model worked and to the tune of 3 SB trophies to which only a handful of NFL teams have. That being said it shouldnt take 6 years of ineptitude to figure out your shyt stinks. AL figure it out or please move over the constant coaching changes with the same ole’ results points to the business model to which you have a kung fu grip on…..
January 14th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Mike Dikta remarks to Buddy Ryan after they had almost come to blows in the 1985 season “We can do it any way you want to. We can go right out back and get it on or you can shape your ass up.”
January 14th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Sith…..my mother could have coached those bears to victory. Nothing against Mike I love the guy but the bears were a wrecking ball of talent from the Offense and the Great D to a very good special teams. They were the real deal there D was stifling and the offense had Sweetness, A good TE and Great O-line…Fast playmakers at WR and a Cocky QB…Remember they made a Super Bowl Video before ever getting there. And they were calling themselves champs.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Broncos are gonna hire Mike Nolan for DC, looks like they are moving to a 3-4. Looks like they are not sure who stays on there staff but would like to see either Dennison or Bates on next years Raider Staff. Bobby Turner would be a great pickup at RB’s Coach.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Mort likes to stroke the shaft and massage the ballz when he gives head. But he doesn’t ask for the priviledge. He just does it.
January 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am
The good news about our present situation is that our needs are painfully obvious.
Invest our first three picks in April on our lines.
Those that talk about a WR need or the importance of playcalling etc. may have a point if we had even a glimmer of hope getting to eight wins in a season the past six years. We have not even come close and it has not been because a lack of skill position talent(see Kerry Collins).
The coaching process is important only in that there is SOME continuity. Cable will provide that. Lal staying represents more continuity.
The Gilbride intereview is just a way for Mr Davis to find out about the Giant’s offensive strategy.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:00 am
would like to see either Dennison or Bates on next years Raider Staff.
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DT42: Bates & Dennison would be no brainers if Cable remains HC and we keep the zbs. This would be good for not only the o-line, but for JaMarcus’ development
January 14th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Doomed, doomed, and double doomed. Teams genuinely trying to improve are hiring high profile GMs to run things. Paoli to KC bodes ill for the Raiders, who just don’t get it. If Uncle Al (excuse me, “Mr. Davis”) won’t relinquish control NOTHING CHANGES. Everybody on this board who gets it please raise your hands.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Mort is a professional liar.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:04 am
I’m glad to see that OL men are falling out of trees. We haven’t been able to draft a good one since Art Shell and Gene Upshaw. There are no can’t miss players IMO. I think we draft best available. And yes that means if Crabtree or Maclin drop to us at seven we take them. When Dallas made there run in the 90’s it was a good defense with three great skilled players at QB,RB, and WR. That carried them to 3 Super Bowls with two different head coaches I might add. Get the talent who cares who the coach is (Barry Switzer) was a goofball in the pros. But, he won a Super Bowl with Aikman, Smith, and Irvin.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Charlie, if we build the lines that means better pass protection for JR. Running lanes for McFadden/Bush. Opens up Miller to be used as a receiving TE, not just an extra blocker. Same with Griffith, DMC & Bush, all have good hands coming out of the backfield. First 3 picks imo should be tackle, center & guard.
Something tells me however that our first 2 picks will be WR & DB unfortunately. Don’t we have enough young talent at those positions? Just need coaches to help develop that talent.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Schneider new Def. Line Coach at USC per L.A. Times
Score one for the best college team in the country.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Post 34
Drafting best available only applys when you have a foundation that keeps you around 8-8.
We must draft for need.
Our lines have been neglected for too long.
I can not accept that we can not find talent on day one of the draft better than Harris,Sands and Warren.
Calvin Johnson is much better than Crabtree and look what happened to Detroit. Without a good nucleus skill guys are WORTHLESS.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Calvin Johnson is much better than Crabtree and look what happened to Detroit. Without a good nucleus skill guys are WORTHLESS.
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good point Charlie. other examples? Larry Johnson, Dwayne Bowe & Tony Gonzalex in KC. Steven Jackson, Torry Holt, Donnie Avery, Randy McMichael in St. Louis. combined 4 wins for the Missouri teams. Palmer, Benson, Housh, CJ #85 = 4 wins for the Bungles. games are won & lost in the trenches.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Best college team in the country? Who Florida. The Raiders have been drafting Offensive lineman since 2003, with the overall #2 pick in 2004 selecting the supposed best O-lineman in the draft and the best center taht same year. And since then the Raiders have been drafting O-lineman. From P.McQ to Mario H. the Raiders have been attempting to better the O-line with drafted players. The same for the D-line. From Tyler B. to Trevor Scott the Raiders have been trying to draft D-lineman.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Heel….Nation.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Looks like that old idiot is going to hire Gilbride
January 14th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I mean Hello.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Rockstar
I guess my optimism stems from what I saw this year with the roster moves that were made during the season.
Allegedly Mr Davis used the Hall discharge as way to free up money to “build the lines”.
I do not know how it got to this point
(perhaps impatience by Mr Davis) but he has completely missed on Harris, Sands and Warren.
These guys are grossly overpaid and simply do not produce.
I am not big on free agents in general although an occasional signing can be helpful(Carlisle, Wilson).
Teams built primarily through the draft consistently outperform Dallas, Washington, Oakland and other big free agent participants.
I think Mr Davis is going in a different direction.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Morts a jackas$…
January 14th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Who’s running the ball in Detroit and who is throwing the ball in Detroit. Those guys are so incredible. Go look at Jamarcus Jersey in the last two or three games of the season. It was raining and his Jersey was as white as when he ran out on the field agains Houston. Who has a legit pass rush. We need a WR for Jamarcus another weapon. Our O-Line is gelling. IMO.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Gannon was a free agent. O and so was Plunkett. They turned out OK. I think it takes a mix of draft, free agency and a lot of luck. We have drafted linemen we just haven’t really gotten what we thought we were getting. Since Art Shell and Gene Upshaw.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:39 am
“Why didn’t someone at either ESPN’s television or online news desk remind Mortensen of that basic journalistic principle when he needed reminding?”
Good Question!
It’s not like Mortensen didn’t know better either. The guy has won 18 awards in Journalism over the course of his career. You don’t do that by not knowing or following the rules.
However when you become a cult of personality like he has it comes with certain privileges and you also acquire a bit of an ego. It may be that he doesn’t really have anyone there to keep him in check. A huge story like Al Davis selling a chunk of the team seems like it would have immediately required the proper phone call.
If he didn’t feel like getting the run around why not simply run the story using either of these media cliches: ‘allegedly’ or ‘the Raiders have not confirmed this…’
January 14th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Rockstar,
Post 18 was certainly not my preferred list. I would prefer Donatell or Waufle, and let him bring in his DL and LB coaches at least. I was just listing the most likely outcomes, unfortunately. I don’t see us hiring Moss — he’s not HC or DC ready, and anything else would be a demotion. His interview was proforma, but now Al can hire a white man at will.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Post 45
With a first pick stud OT like Jake Long, resign Carlisle and Grove I would agree.
We simply can not handle a Baltimore, SD or Pittsburgh with our present OL group.
The offensive line is the heart of the football team.
With our running backs and the continued development of JR we can move the chains, keep the ball and automatically make our defense better.
Getting improved line play on defense makes our present LB’s and DB’s better.
It all starts in the trenches and we have looked for a quick fix on the lines for too long(other than in the 2004 draft).
We need day one draft picks on the lines and we improve in the win column.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:45 am
MORT quiere ser la noticia y no reportarla.
Viva Los Raiders!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Do we have a GM yet? Coach yet?
January 14th, 2009 at 9:48 am
MORT es un Pendejo!!!!
Viva Los Raiders!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Gilbride’s coming in Thursday.
January 14th, 2009 at 9:51 am
I agree Dakota do we even have an assistant GM?
January 14th, 2009 at 9:52 am
I forgot, Al is the GM…sorry, do we have a scapegoat GM in place yet?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I really don’t think we should hire anyone until Al announces who is going to help him evaluate the talent and hire the new Head Coach. OR remove interim from Cable’s name.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Back to the 70’s Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 9:37 am
We have drafted linemen we just haven’t really gotten what we thought we were getting. Since Art Shell and Gene Upshaw.
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Yeah, Don Mosebar was a bust and so was Wizniewski (acquired by trade following draft). And what about Jim Lachey? Or Barret Robbins? Or Dave Dalby (won 3 rings)? Or Henry Lawrence?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Why cant we go to paying 3-4 on defence? it works…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:04 am
I actually was going to list Dave Dalby and Don Mosebar (Visalia, CA) But, my real point was that we just haven’t hit on a good linemen for at least ten years. Barret Robbins had his issues but, was very talented. We traded Jim Lachey for Jay Schroeder that was brilliant. And I really loved Wizniewski and he does have a son in colleget that I would love to draft someday. But, we have missed and missed again since those picks. I really believe if we give this group a chance they can take it to a higher level. They really haven’t played that many games together yet.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:06 am
There is no ‘we’. You don’t own any part of the Raiders. You are not part of the Raiders. You are just a person that thinks they are somehow partly yours because you got a t-shirt from Santa. You are a fan or a customer of a product, you are not part of the Raiders. If you don’t get a check signed by Al, you are just a loud mouthed bystander.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:07 am
And yes games are won most times in the trenches. But, if you don’t have any weapons it doesn’t matter how much time you have or don’t allow if you don’t have play makers behind them to do exactly that. Make plays it’s all a moot point.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Jim Lachey was the 12th pick in the 1st round in 1985 by the Chargers. Signed by the Raiders in 1988 and traded to the ‘Skins for Jay Schroeder. Terrible trade.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:08 am
The Raiders did not draft Jim Lachey
January 14th, 2009 at 10:08 am
We are all fans. Thanks for the reminder. But, when the Raiders lose I like many of you have to answer to people about what’s wrong with your team. So, doesn’t that at least entitle me to use we when I am talking about them.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Pirate skulls and bones ♫
January 14th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Mort is a loser ass chump. I guess we lost our privilege with him huh?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Brien<———–not a fan………..please don’t insult me
January 14th, 2009 at 10:14 am
My mistake on Lachey. But I could have mentioned Rory Graves, lol
January 14th, 2009 at 10:15 am
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Gilbride’s coming in Thursday.
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
January 14th, 2009 at 10:15 am
yo Brien….
they finally arrested that cop the shot that kid on the the bart platform…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:16 am
RaiderDK Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Why cant we go to paying 3-4 on defence? it works…
not when you dont havethe personnel to run it. Where is Thomas Howard gonna play inthe 3-4? Exactly! Who would be the NT? Exactly!
January 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
I saw it 408……..I mean finally and all but people had to act extra mainy to get results. And this still aint enough for me. Lucky people had camera phones otherwise the Cops would have lied and covered this up. the bitch cop lady was trying to confiscate phones. The Bart ticket prices are about to rise due to the 25 million dollar lawsuit. Justice aint served for shhhhhhhhhhit!
January 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 9:52 am
I forgot, Al is the GM…sorry, do we have a scapegoat GM in place yet?
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Maybe Al already hired someone but doesn’t want to announce it because if he does good, Al will want to take the credit himself.. If the guy does bad, Al will announce that he brought this guy in a year ago and he made all the bad decisions..
January 14th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Some former major league baseball player’s son was shot the night before by cops for no damn reason as well. Screw that 408, they gonna keep shooting us down is how alot of my people feel. I’m still not happy
January 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
So, Jerry…..was Mortenson wrong about what he reported?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Anyhow yall I was just stopping in. The holidays are over as well as my party time for a bit lol…………time to get back grinding. Be cool yall
January 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
So who’s the best DC and OC we can get people? I would say Cable stays as HC unless Gilbride knocks interview out of the park…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
So, Jerry…..was Mortenson wrong about what he reported?
You and Mort have alot in common
January 14th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Al had a 3-4 DC in place for five seasons and he was allowed to try it once or twice, but Al never made a concerted effort to actually get the right personnel to run it…so what would make anyone here think that things are going to change and Al will allow the next guy, or the next guy, or the next guy run a prominently 3-4 defense?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:24 am
yep thank goodness 4 camera phones.. Maybe next time they’ll think be 4 they act…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Brien, those BART cops were snatching up peoples’ phones too, who had taped the shooting. That one girl hid her phone. She caught the whole thing. You can see the whole video at daveyd.com
January 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Me and Mort do have a lot in common, Brien. We’re almost always right about the Raiders.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
SacRaider,
At first I was going to laugh at post #73, but then I realized this might be the one NFL organization where something like that could actually happen!
January 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
crooked cops in the Oakland area? why am I not surprised?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am
yeah well I hope they dont go dummy again today.. I mean peaceful protest.. If he gets acquitted then go dummy but not b4…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am
can we draft Jodie Meeks? that dude is an athlete!
January 14th, 2009 at 10:28 am
I think Mort was right about this story, too. Jerry’s just trying to throw a bone to the Davis worshipers that make up for about 90% of his web hits. This is stupid. We’re coming off of our 6th straight failed season, and the Raiders are more concerned about the media misreporting a stupid interview (maybe, at that…) than they are building a team. That ought to tell you what’s in store for next year.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Johannes Mehserle will be a quality control coach for the Raiders when he gets outta jail. Al Davis likes to give people 2nd & 3rd chances…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I agree, 408. Give the system a chance. But if all the evidence isn’t brought to trial? It’s common knowledge the police were destroying evidence right there at the scene. If the cell phone confiscations aren’t brought up at trial, then the system has already failed, regardless of the verdict and sentence. Those cops taking the cell phones is equally as disturbing as the shooting.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Free StrahanMan!
January 14th, 2009 at 10:31 am
It’s no way to treat Tom Cable, that is if Al has any idea of continuing the vibe of the end of the season.
Just letting Cable hang out like that is counterproductive.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:31 am
MR I didnt know you were down with davyd… good 4 you.. You ever listen 2 KPFA???
January 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am
hell yeah bust em all…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Have it bookmarked, 408. Friday Night Vibe…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:33 am
We have had some bad misses on draft day lineman.
John Clay was perhaps the worst although Greg Skrepanak and Bob Buchowski(sp?) are not far behind.
The problem is we have to try. I agree that we need a blend of free agents and draft picks but we are WAY out of proportion especially on our lines.
Sands cast off
Warren cast off
Burgess often injured in Philly
Joseph cast off
Richardson,Scott developing day TWO picks
Kelly recovering from ACL
Edwards situational free agent
Henderson third round developing
Gallery solid day one pick
Grove often injured
Carlisle free agent
Green AGING free agent
Some may take exception to the Gallery comment but this is a very marginal group in total. It is the primary reason we are not competitive.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Obviously we don’t get KPFA here in sac, but I listen to it online. You know you can listen to every single show any time you want to at their website.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:36 am
MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Me and Mort do have a lot in common, Brien. We’re almost always right about the Raiders.
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you are never right about the raiders. but then you never right about anything. all you can do is parrot 19-61 or 24-72. Who cares? You are a turd.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:38 am
My god you’re just original with the screen names, aren’t you? Here’s how it works, dude. People who are too cowardly to just pick a screen name and stick with it are the ones that likely “take it up the azz”.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:40 am
I don’t understand why Jerry and some other Raider fans on here always talk about the last 2 games of the season. What about the 10 games prior? the Raiders beat the Texans & Bucs. good for us. It’s not like we beat the Ravens, Falcons, Panthers, Dolphins, Chargers or Patriots. All of whom (minus the Pats) were playoff teams. Texans & Bucs? not playoff teams, although both had better records than us. I’m not sure we can say the Raiders have turned the corner, because Norv Turner finished with 5 wins in his 1st season as HC too, but only managed 4 wins the following year and got fired. Now we must replace the ENITRE coaching staff and figure out what to do with Nnamdi/Shane.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:40 am
And while we’re at it, I’m always right about the Raiders. I’ll never forget all of the “you were right, MaddenRaider” comments I got after Denver beat us in week one and Kiffin was eventually ran out. Of course, you haven’t forgotten, either…
January 14th, 2009 at 10:41 am
I think that MR troll is gay. Obviously
January 14th, 2009 at 10:42 am
MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 10:38 am
My god you’re just original with the screen names, aren’t you? Here’s how it works, dude. People who are too cowardly to just pick a screen name and stick with it are the ones that likely “take it up the azz”.
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About time you came out of the closet, StrahanMan
January 14th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Bo, is that you, posting as MR takes it up the ***?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Really, all you hear is “assz rammed, and swaty ballz from that troll.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Bo, what is it with Davis loyalists and the gay sex thing? Just a bunch of homophobic sports fans? Or perhaps one huge Freudian slip?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:46 am
“Raiders linebackers coach Don Martindale is emerging as the leading candidate to replace Rob Ryan as the team’s defensive coordinator.
Ryan wanted to take Martindale with him when he left for Cleveland, but he remains under contract with Oakland. Two-time NFL coordinator Ed Donatell and Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss are the other candidates.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle ”
WTF??
January 14th, 2009 at 10:46 am
The gay stuff comes up in regard to you only, often at your suggestion MR. Ask anyone here.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:46 am
I believe he’s gay. I come in here sometimes and it’s just like a teenage girls pajama party in here.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Bo, since Super Bowl 37, Al Davis has been taking it up the azz. That’s for sure.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Koolkell,
You would hope that Cable has some guarantees given that he is currently not under contract anymore.
If Cable is not retained, the Raiders will have swept out all but one coach from the staff. Sanjay Lal being the only holdover.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Bo, is that you posting as the MR azz guy?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:47 am
MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Bo, since Super Bowl 37, Al Davis has been taking it up the azz. That’s for sure.
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Keep your fantasy life to yourself sicko.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Bo, why are you posting as this MR azz guy? Why not just one screen name? What do you hope to accomplish by using all of these different names?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:50 am
MR, when I choose to illuminate the rest of this community about your personality disorders or your spurious logic, I do so as Bo Schembechler Jackson.
As for the scatological posters to whom you refer, they are just responding to your deafening pleas for abuse.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:50 am
You said Kiffin would be 8-8 his first year. You said Rob Ryan would be run. You said the Raiders would not win any of their remaining games. You said Kiffin would win a lawsuit against Davis. None of that happened. So you said the Broncos would win in the lst week of the season. You have a fifty fifty chance. You must have some dudes spooge cloggin up your brain dude
January 14th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Plus the Head Coach doesn’t appear to have any say at all regarding staff. Same ole shyt. The Key is, will we win 6 games next year. To avoid 11 losses 7 yrs in a row?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Bo, do you think you’re going to get rid of me, or something? As long as this blog is open to the public, and as long as there are people stupid enough to worship Al Davis and admit it in here, I’m going to be here to make fun of them.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:51 am
MR, are you StrahanMan? Or have you only posted as MR here?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:51 am
The Raiders defitely need to focus on the OL this offseason. sounds like Al knows that too. When Deangelo HAll was cut he said Al Davis told him that the Raiders needed to focus their resources to the OL.
The twist in that is whick of these linemen can play ZBS.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:53 am
That was the first time I saw the entire video of the shooting. That was fuked up. No reason to pull his gun, stand over the guy and shoot him. None. Even if he didn’t mean to pull the trigger he should never have pulled his weapon in the first place, he was never physically threatened. Wow. That guy has to burn for what he did.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:53 am
What makes you think I want to get rid of you MR? Wow, you have a persecution complex. Of course, you crave persecution to reinforce your poor self image. And you work very hard here to get that persecution.
Actually, I have been asking for StrahanMan redux.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Bo, aren’t you taking this all a bit too seriously, though? I mean, this is really about me making fun of Al Davis and his worshipers, and you being offended. Little else. I guess you’re trying to distract people from that. I would too. Because it has to be quite embarrassing anymore to openly believe in Al Davis. There should be a proposition that doesn’t allow Davis worshipers to marry, or better yet procreate. We have enough retards on the planet.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Bo, did you study psychology? Or are you just an instant expert on the subject? You know, like gay sex.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Or will we even be running the ZBS?
January 14th, 2009 at 10:56 am
So with Jake’s ultra-shaky performance over the weekend, you gotta think the Panthers might be looking at drafting one of the top QB’s. If Stafford is there at 7 (unlikely) or they are keen on Sanchez, they could be a logical choice to trade down with. Maybe pick up a first next year, or at least their 2nd round pick this year, and still be able to pick-up either lines or D help with the first pick and have two second-rounders.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I’m more convinced now that the only way to be rid of Davis is….his passing.
January 14th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Bo, I posted as StrahanMan, like a year ago. Yeh, I’ve trolled. But I’ve sworn it off. It’s so 2007. I’m not proud of it. I post under one name and one name only, MaddenRaider. But you can’t say the same, can you? You’re only doing what I already did. Following in my footsteps. And you’ll find my path has no gay sex in it. Just enlightenment and wisdom. You go my way, your IQ will start to increase and soon you’ll be making fun of Al Davis, too. Just keep trying to be like me.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:01 am
oh no
we suck again!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:01 am
MR, you brought up the subject of posting under multiple names, which you have admitted to as StrahanMan. So it was your subject, and you were hypocritcal as usual.
And can you point to some evidence I am a “Davis loyalist”? The term itself sounds pretty ludicrous on its’ face, since Davis is the Raiders and we are all Raider fans.
In point of fact, there are many things I admire about Al as the owner/GM of my favorite team. And many that disappoint.
Kind of ironic that you suggest i am being too serious, when on a daily basis you attempt to turn an entertaining endeavour (Raider football commentary) into a vendetta against the HOF owner.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Tay
I remember the same comments which is why I am hopeful.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:02 am
StrahanMan was this (2008) season MR.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:03 am
# MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 10:40 am
And while we’re at it, I’m always right about the Raiders. I’ll never forget all of the “you were right, MaddenRaider” comments I got after Denver beat us in week one and Kiffin was eventually ran out. Of course, you haven’t forgotten, either…
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So maddenRaiders great claim is he chose the broncos in week one?? Why didn’t you just say your great claim was to who would win the coin flip before the game started? Same odds. Of course no self respecting Raider fan would have taken the Broncos in that game. So you must be a fan of another team. Tell us, what team might that be? And take mortensons balls out of your out of your mouth before you tell us .
January 14th, 2009 at 11:08 am
StrahanMan: “I getz minez”
MR, if anyone else trolled in such an obvious caricature of a urban black guy, you would be screaming “racism”…
Was StrahanMan a racist stereotype? Why pretend to be a hip hop thug wannabe, with the daveyd reference, etc?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:09 am
i can confirm we did:
1. al is in control. he did hire art shell and that bed and breakfast oc.
2. al is in control. he did interview sarkissian (he say “no thanks”).
3. al is in control. he hired lance kiffin (he was a liar).
4. al loves him some tom cable.
5. al is in control. al has decided not to resign namdi. we won’t even put a 2nd year franchise on namdi, but will let him walk. al gave t. kelly and turdell very generous contracts because it was the “ethical thing to do”.
6. can’t hire tom cable cause richie kotite hasn’t been ruled out as a candidate yet.
7. if richie kotite declines to be interviewed then we’ll stick with tom cable. i imagine cable will be named head coach sometime after the combine.
al davis is still very much in control. he is ringing his bedside bell at this very minute. catheter bag needs to be emptied fo sho.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I find it humorous that Pete Carroll made room on the coaching staff for Brian Schneider and let Mark Jackson return in his football operations role after telling Lane Kiffin he did not have any room for him in his future plans.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Was it this year, Bo? Well, seemed like a long time ago. I guess I’ve matured a lot since then. But since you’re following in my footsteps by posting under multiple names, I hope you become as mature and smart as me some day, too. Let’s only hope.
BTW, congrats on the new screen name. “MR Licks Morts Nuts”. I guess if you’re going to be a troll you might as well be original. Hey, I’ve always said, as long as you’re entertaining. But man, you just can’t let the gay sex thing go, can you? You keep obsessing over gay sex and you might wake up with your ass hurting one day.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:11 am
nope…it’s still gay in here.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Bo, I wasn’t the one acting black under “StrahanMan”. That was someone else. I posted under the name a few times, pretending to be a Giants fan ripping on Raider fans, then someone else started posting under that name and taking it out of hand. Probably you.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Bo, it is well documented that “maddenRaider” is a liar and a putz. He is NOT a Raider fan. He claims to be so some of the bloggers here listen to him, but as evidenced above, he is not. All he tries to do is get everyone at each others throats, pit the Al Davis and anti Davis camps against each other and then post stupid and absurd posts under respected posters names to discredit them. Why would any interested serious Raider fan do that? You don’t do that Bo. No serious Raider fan does.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am
And, it’s nice you would refer to Davey D as a hip hop thug. Last I checked, he’s never been convicted or even accused of committing any crime. So I don’t know where you get the thug label. Unless you think all black guys are thugs.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:14 am
You the man, Jerry.
Major props for bringing the leviathan to heel, if only for a moment. You’re a credit to your peers.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:15 am
I pit the Al Davis vs. anti Al Davis camps against each other? Sure. I mean, everything is going so well with the Raiders right now. We win every year. And then you have this MaddenRaider who comes in and divides the fans…
January 14th, 2009 at 11:16 am
# MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:10 am
You keep obsessing over gay sex and you might wake up with your ass hurting one day.
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Tell us more about how that feels. You obviously know.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:17 am
The real word is thugz MR.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:17 am
So as a confessed troll, you feel that you can now accuse others MR? Har dee har har. Any evidence? I thought not.
In a more serious vein, no I am not a credentialled psychologist. However, even a layman can spot your quite obvious signs of borderline personality disorder. And thats not borderline like “maybe” its the borderlie between neurosis and psychosis (or both). You’re smart enough to know I’m right, and that within you lies a very serious mental problemo. Help is out there…just admit you need it.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:17 am
MaddenRaider you are a liar and a putz. Who cares what you think.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am
True, Davis pity party. No reason to spell the word the same way the slave masters spelled it.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson:
MR (now MaddenRaider) is consistant. He trolls as other people on a daily basis and always talks about one of the following
1. Davis bashing/Kiffin promoting
2. racism. usually pro black calling everyone who disagrees with him a redneck
3. homosexuality. pro gay
4. predictions. tries to go out of his way to prove that he is right and everyone else is wrong
so if these topics interest you or anyone else on here, those are usually the ones that debate with him. This of course turns into insults, threats and lots of trolling. Anything he can do to try and make himself sound smarter than other people on here.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Where did the word thug originate MR?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Pay attn: StrahanMan was you hip hop thug persona. Not DaveyD. Pretending to be a hip hop thug as StrahanMan, and then making today’s references seems to be racist according to your previous standards of accusation.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:20 am
maddenraider this blog has not been getting it done for you for a long time. You are a laughing stock and the butt of hundreds of jokes EACH AND EVERY DAY. You are the only one who some how does not realize it. Maybe you should go somewhere else, and try something totally different. maybe take up pilates or something.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:20 am
LOL @ 149
January 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Hey, confession is the first step to redemption. I don’t deny trolling. One day, you’ll get to this phase, too. but for the time being, it’s obvious you’re stuck at trolling, pointing out that other people troll too, making gay sex references, referring to all black people as “thugz”, trolling, more trolling, and, again, justifying it by pointing out that others do it too. There’s no excuses for your child like behavior. There’s no one to blame, other than probably your parents. I can only imagine what they’re like. But, hey, since you want to be like me, again, do what I did. Admit you trolled, stop doing it, and make a legitimate, well thought out case for Al Davis, for once in your lifetime. I know the latter is difficult to do because there isn’t much good you can say about Al anymore. I mean, face it. that’s why you’re trolling to begin with. But you have to at least try. You believe in the guy. Make a case for him. And don’t worry when people laugh at you. remember, we’re the ones who are going to be kissing Al’s feet when he turns it around…whenever that is.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Maybe meds ARE THE ANSWER MR. The Blog isn’t.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am
The troll is just sooooooooo lame. That’s what’s really annoying.
MR Dances in Golden Rain
MR Licks Morts Nuts
C’moooooon man. Don’t you have any more wit than that?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:24 am
149 not me
January 14th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I’ll tell you where thug originated MR, in 13th century India, Asia, and Africa, when thugz, or gangs of criminals, roamed from town to town, looting and pillaging, smuggling and drug-trafficing in rings as old as the hills of Asia and Africa. So in short yes, thugz are mostly black males.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Alright, Davis worshipers. I’m out of here. Have fun posting under my name, and arguing with a bunch of people that you swear up and down are me. Those are so fun to read at the end of the day. But smart people here know the real me, and the smart people are the only ones whose opinions I care about, anyway. Goodbye Bo, aka gay this and gay that.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Al Davis Pity Party,
You’re a gawdamned liar
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Thug may refer to: Antoinette
thug a common term in British English for an anti-social person, similar to ‘hoodlum’ or ‘hooligan’. It derives from the next meaning.
Thug (in this usage written with an uppercase T) (from Hindi ठग ṭhag), a member of a former Indian cult Thuggee
Thug Behram, a leader of the Thuggee cult. Supposedly the world’s the greatest serial killer with nearly 1,000 victims.
thug, a gardening term meaning an over-vigorous plant that spreads excessively. It derives from the above.
Thug, a wooden bat used in the naturists’ game miniten
Thug, a type of allomancer in the Mistborn series of books by Brandon Sanderson
January 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Al Davis Pity party,
WOW you really blew us away with that in depth history of the word thugz! You are just as lame as MR. WOW that was weak….. You sound ki==like a little boy trying to sound smart, but you are not.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Charlie Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Post 34
Drafting best available only applys when you have a foundation that keeps you around 8-8.
We must draft for need.
Our lines have been neglected for too long.
I can not accept that we can not find talent on day one of the draft better than Harris,Sands and Warren.
Calvin Johnson is much better than Crabtree and look what happened to Detroit. Without a good nucleus skill guys are WORTHLESS.
^ Exactly….both lines need to be addressed LT/RT and Center and a beast of a DE and DT need to be added.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Thats right MR the smart people know you a thug.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I have the Raiders drafting Jason Smith, OT Baylor in the 1st round.
Here is one scouts assessment:
He is a former TE and posses great speed and feet. Smith is arguably the most athletic lineman available in the 2009. He could play LT or LG in a zone-blocking scheme possesses the speed to get out and move to the second level very effectively. His days running routes is evident in his ability to pull and trap and his awareness of where the ball is going on screens. His speed and long arms make him an explosive weapon in space against linebackers and safeties. Technique wise, he has made huge strides this year as well.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:30 am
# KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:22 am
The troll is just sooooooooo lame. That’s what’s really annoying.
MR Dances in Golden Rain
MR Licks Morts Nuts
C’moooooon man. Don’t you have any more wit than that?
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you’re right. This is better. Koolkell is the next idiot that everyone sh**s all over.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Got ya, Davis pity. And Davis worshipers are mostly white males. This can’t bode well for the future of white America. Later.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:31 am
MR, who are the smart ones???
January 14th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Good humor MR on your smarts to tie in the slaves in America and the word thug, seeing black males like you were considered thugz long before they became slaves in America.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:32 am
MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Hey, confession is the first step to redemption. I don’t deny trolling. One day, you’ll get to this phase, too. but for the time being, it’s obvious you’re stuck at trolling, pointing out that other people troll too, making gay sex references, referring to all black people as “thugz”, trolling, more trolling, and, again, justifying it by pointing out that others do it too. There’s no excuses for your child like behavior. There’s no one to blame, other than probably your parents. I can only imagine what they’re like. But, hey, since you want to be like me, again, do what I did. Admit you trolled, stop doing it, and make a legitimate, well thought out case for Al Davis, for once in your lifetime. I know the latter is difficult to do because there isn’t much good you can say about Al anymore. I mean, face it. that’s why you’re trolling to begin with. But you have to at least try. You believe in the guy. Make a case for him. And don’t worry when people laugh at you. remember, we’re the ones who are going to be kissing Al’s feet when he turns it around…whenever that is.
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MR, in just one post (I assume directed at me since I initiated the psycho talk) you accuse me of:
> trolling
> busting trolls (true, but only you)
> making gay references
> being childlike
> being racist
> having bad parents
> being laughably naive about Al Davis
Where do you get even one shred of evidence for any of these? You asked if I trolled and I said no. Now find some evidence. Or just admit you are reaching for straws, and that your desperate need for abuse requires medical attention.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Why is it always the anonymous handles, who talk so big?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Where did the word thug originate MR?
I’ll tell you where thug originated MR, in 13th century India, Asia, and Africa, when thugz, or gangs of criminals, roamed from town to town, looting and pillaging, smuggling and drug-trafficing in rings as old as the hills of Asia and Africa. So in short yes, thugz are mostly black males.
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INCORRECT:
Thuggee (or tuggee) (from Hindi thag thief, from Sanskrit sthaga scoundrel, from sthagati to conceal) was an Indian network of secret fraternities who were engaged in murdering and robbing travellers, operating from the 17th century (possibly as early as 13th century) to the 1830s whose members were known as Thugs.
http://encyclopedia.stateuniversity.com/pages/22208/Thuggee.html
Hindus and India. Not Asia and Africa. So, you are WRONG.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am
I have to ask you MR whats worse, enslaving a thug like you or letting you steal from your own kind?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am
KoolKell
Why do you let the trolls get to you so much?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Wrong they were called thugz and they operated in India and Africa.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:35 am
#158
Sounds like that idiot Oakglenn. That guy is always wrong. He sounds so reasonable though.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:35 am
The actual word thug originated in India first yes that part is correct.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:36 am
A black man had just finished watching ROOTS and was inspired. He began to save up money in hopes to go back to visit his native home land. The land of his ancestors. His jar was full and he counted up the money twice to be certain he had enough for the plane ticket. He emptied his jar in front of the lady at the desk in the airport. They counted the money twice and came to find that he was a nickel short. Just 5 cents! so the man started asking people in the airport for some change. Finally he approached an old texan. He told the man “sir, please. all I need is 5 cents to go back to my country.” The texas man searched his pockets for change, pulled out a quarter and said “here ya go. Take 4 more with ya”
January 14th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Im a fool
January 14th, 2009 at 11:36 am
In the 13th century not the 17th.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Slavery was always a good idea.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:38 am
KK its ok for MR to bring his black on white hate into this blog but backing him up knowing he is a fool puzzles me, but hey it is what it is.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:38 am
I’m sure that Chris was “MORTified” by the bad press he rightfully received.
Good job Jerry! Someones got to call the media on its occasional bullsh*t.
Freedom to the 4th estate! Break the monopolies!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Tay
Thanks for getting back to football. I tend to agree with you and I have heard of him.
I would feel better staying away from the lumbering Andre Smith types.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Lock all blacks up, and send them back!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:40 am
“The story of Thuggee was popularized by books such as Philip Meadows Taylor’s novel Confessions of a Thug, 1839, leading to the word “thug” entering the English language. “
January 14th, 2009 at 11:41 am
MR is no thug, regardless of the etymology. MR has a serious personality disorder that requires him to make people to treat him like sh!t. Then he feels at home with himself. He doesn’t have the self-assurance to be a thug, regardless of the pretensions he puts on.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Oakglenn
You little turd, you think you can push my buttons with racial insults? Past that, moron.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I just did dumb azz. You are too easy!!
Besides you are the racist here.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:42 am
KoolKell
I’m telling you bro, just rise above it. You are better than that. Tripping on trolls just feeds their ego’s and inspires more trolling. You already know this.
So how have you been?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Whatever Nnamdi21, fact is the word thugz referrs to bands of criminals, and Africa had just as many as anywhere else in the world way before American slavery was involved, so quit trying to protect MR and his racist garbage.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:43 am
The thing that’s funny with the genetic morons, it’s always the black guy who’s racist, funny that.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Don’t get KoolKell mad — he’ll tell on you!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am
MR is cross between a thug and a redneck.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:44 am
KK, you like me and I don’t like black people. What is the diff?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
194 not me
January 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Lock all blacks up, and send them back!
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How ignorant.
Not ALL “blacks” are deserving of derision. Yes, due to socio-economic conditions, programming thru the daily media and reinforcement of unfounded biased and sterotypes we remain divided as people.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve met plenty of uncool people, of many ethnicities, but to lump socila groups togehter as one unseemly entity diminishes not only them but YOU…
Compassion, reason and logic.
Not just for “your kind” but for all.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
blacks were slaves in africa before they ever became slaves in america. they were chained up and sold by other blacks. white men paid for them, like material posessions. they were used as workers. cheaper than hiring other white men and how the owners treated them was at their own discretion.
for these reasons many black people hate white people. they tend to forget what life was like prior to becoming Americans and eventually being set free. If Americans didn’t buy the slaves, other countries would have. If the blacks would have stayed in Africa, they would have been treated much worse and may never have been granted freedom and the opportunities every American currently enjoys.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:45 am
My dad was black but I hate black people?
KK knows the real me
January 14th, 2009 at 11:46 am
I am BLACK, and don’t like blackies either. They stink, thier hair is nasty, and well thier BLACK!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:46 am
I dont know who is a bigger Douche, Mort or that Extrodinarily Absurd WindBag Peter King.
Both have a rediculous level of Self Importance, and both are absolute Turds.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Nah, this is the self-proclaimed “King of the Trolls” melting down.
Hey Oakglenn, you’re a piece of trash, and there’s not a gawdamned thing you can do about it.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
196, namdi
That is bull, I have lived with, and around many blackies and they ARE all the SAME! LOW life do anything for a dollar, or for a kick! Just a bunch of no good people doing what they do best”NOTHING”!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Let it all hang out Oakglenn!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Sign Nnamdi to a long term deal with the intention of trading him to the Jags for a 1st & 5th round pick plus LB Mike Peterson.
Then sign Al Harris to play opposite Chris Johnson.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Will Walker be a factor other than onthe spread sheet?
WIll he RESTRUCTURE his blatantly out of whack contract?!
I hope so. Either that or he better have a Pro bowl 09′.
Gave him a pass in 08′ so his knee could heal after those two pre season surgeries, so now he needs to light it up or bow out.
Crab may not make it to us at 7. Seattle really needs receiver help, but I don’t know enough about Mora to say…
January 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am
MY nickname for mort is jay glazerz lady or you could go with adam shcefter’s woman. I mean you work for espn and routinely get scooped to the best real stories. and peter king, mitch albom,skip bayless,steve a smith, jason whitlock r all tied for biggest douches.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Oakglenn
You couldn’t carry my jock, and all the trolling in the world isn’t going to change that. You know that.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am
200. Agreed! Turds!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Nnamdi
Crabtree will not be around by the 7th pick.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I agree 100%
MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
196, namdi
That is bull, I have lived with, and around many blackies and they ARE all the SAME! LOW life do anything for a dollar, or for a kick! Just a bunch of no good people doing what they do best”NOTHING”!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:52 am
RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Sign Nnamdi to a long term deal with the intention of trading him to the Jags for a 1st & 5th round pick plus LB Mike Peterson.
Then sign Al Harris to play opposite Chris Johnson.
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I like the 2nd part about signing Al Harris!!!
H*lls to the yeah!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Sign Nnamdi to a long term deal with the intention of trading him to the Jags for a 1st & 5th round pick plus LB Mike Peterson.
Then sign Al Harris to play opposite Chris Johnson.
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thats a good plan Dogg
January 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am
KK, there is nothing better than getting a thug mad, thanks for taking the bate bro.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am
I hate to see Nnamdi go, but he seems to be ready to play elsewhere. Get what you can for him.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Forget C. Johnson what about Rout?
January 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am
What is this sheeet?
196, namdi
That is bull, I have lived with, and around many blackies and they ARE all the SAME! LOW life do anything for a dollar, or for a kick! Just a bunch of no good people doing what they do best”NOTHING”!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am
RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Nnamdi
Crabtree will not be around by the 7th pick.
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You know, I think your right and I’m not sure thats a bad thing. Lots been made about Texas Techs offense not translating to the NFL right away, his lack of “burner” speed and size.
At the least I think he’ll need a year or so to develop. Not sure if he’s going to be able to contribute like Eddie Royal or DeShawn Jackson. (Is thqat the right guy? Eagles KR/WR?)
January 14th, 2009 at 11:56 am
F Crabtree sign Maclin!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Forget C. Johnson what about Rout?
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Got called out for slacking on special teams and was bypassed for the slot rightfully his when Hall was dumped. Not sure if he’ll be here next year. Not sure if he should…big dissapointment.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I know Jerry often says that Michael Huff can’t match up well with WR’s, but I don’t buy it. I think Huff probably has more talent than Eugene, Baker, Routt, Bowie & Waddell combined. He just has to be used and coached properly!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Oakglenn
You little fa66ot. Don’t you have the nerve to say those things under your own handle? Of course not. You’re getting angry though aren’t ya?
All your hopeless assz can do is hurl racial insults, no other alternatives?
Impersonate someone maybe? You know what you are? Impotent.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:58 am
I’m not mad fa660t.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
DONE!!!
196, namdi
That is bull, I have lived with, and around many blackies and they ARE all the SAME! LOW life do anything for a dollar, or for a kick! Just a bunch of no good people doing what they do best”NOTHING”!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
McCluster is way better than Cratree and showed it in the head to head match up but I am not sure if he is entering the draft as a junior yet.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Interesting that many of the same people that were bashing Cable during the season are now singing his praises. And Because Big AL didn’t just automatically name Cable as the new HC he’s wrong. And why are some here so surprised that the coaching staff was cleared out? Most of the coaches were Kiffin guy’s/hires, enough said right there. They should’ve been shown the door when Kiffin was canned.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I know Jerry often says that Michael Huff can’t match up well with WR’s, but I don’t buy it. I think Huff probably has more talent than Eugene, Baker, Routt, Bowie & Waddell combined. He just has to be used and coached properly!
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Eugene laid some big hits and had several TD saving open field tackles this year. Lots of improvement. Pretty surprising…
At least we won’t have to worry about Mays getting taken with the 7th overall.
Stated yesterday he was staying at USC for his Senior year.
Phew!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
KK I am not Oakglenn.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:55 am
RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Nnamdi
Crabtree will not be around by the 7th pick.
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“You know, I think your right and I’m not sure thats a bad thing. Lots been made about Texas Techs offense not translating to the NFL right away, his lack of “burner” speed and size.
At the least I think he’ll need a year or so to develop. Not sure if he’s going to be able to contribute like Eddie Royal or DeShawn Jackson. (Is thqat the right guy? Eagles KR/WR?)”
Good point about Crabtree. He doesn’t have the speed of the other 2 WR’s that you mentioned. You are right, it is DeSean Jackson, the Cal Alum. He and Royal have wheels more than size. Crabtree is more like a Brandon Marshall type, good size and decent speed.
The Raiders already have a Royal/Jackson type of WR in JLH. I would be very happy with Crabtree. The Raiders would have to trade up to get him.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
So I have to share this revelation, fact is I’ve enjoyed coming on this blog from time to time to talk Raider football, my team, always has been, always will be, and fact is in my part of the world there’s not a lot of Raiders fans, so its nice to find others to complain about the circus that is the Oakland Raiders…but what I can’t understand is what kind of coward would post anything on a blog, that already uses nicknames as someone else??? Seriously, why don’t you have the ballz to just own up to the comment? Some are funny some are out there, but man up. I mean think about it, a person with an already assumed persona, assuming another persona, so no one will know that the persona he really is, is the made up persona? I don’t know if that made any sense, but fact is “trolling” is just schizophrenic, and cowardly in my humble opinion, and quite frankly very sad if you think about what would possess someone to do something that foolish.
…my thoughts.
Stay strong Nation
January 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Are you idiotic trolls done yet posting as others?? You’re not fooling anyone and you look and sound stupid.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Oakglenn
You get very angry with Davis bashers don’t ya? You pathetic fool.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
KoolKool= KK, which means Koo Klux
January 14th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Brien(Where da rippas at?) Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 10:19 am
I saw it 408……..I mean finally and all but people had to act extra mainy to get results. And this still aint enough for me. Lucky people had camera phones otherwise the Cops would have lied and covered this up. the bitch cop lady was trying to confiscate phones. The Bart ticket prices are about to rise due to the 25 million dollar lawsuit. Justice aint served for shhhhhhhhhhit!
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But of course, now this guys family has to get paid. As if 25 million dollars is going to solve it. Greed.
What is lost in all of this, is the fact the guy who got shot was indeed being a menace to society and endangering others by inciting a fight in a public place. But nobody mentions that.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Big AL is doing a solid job. No need to rush and make another Kiffin type mistake. On another note, most HC’s in the NFL do not select their entire coaching staff. Most are allowed to select most of the coaching staff just like with the Raiders, but very few are allowed to select their entire staff.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Maybe white people should publicly protest black people being a menace by starting fights at the Bart.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I’m not trying to fool anyone Oakglenn. That’s why I post under my own handle.
I just feel like abusing you right now.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
If this guy wouldn’t have been acting a fool, he would still be alive, can ANYONE dispute that? Why can’t he have just got on the train like every other normal person. No, he had to start a fight.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
He was a thug John what do you expect?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Dogg:
Peterson would be an excellent addition to our D, a tough savy veteran is what we are desperately lacking on that side of the ball. My question is: isn’t he a FA this year? We could definately sign him, but I don’t think the Jags have the ability to trade him. Could be wrong, either way he may be the best FA fit at any position out there for us.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
He was a thug John what do you expect?
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I expect people to recognize that fact, and not to just blame the cop. Take some responsibility for actions that lead up to the mistake.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
They are all thugzz
January 14th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
I agree with Raider Dogg. I don’t think Mike Crabtree is going to be around at #7 overall either. Have to take a LT in my mind.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Vegas
Honestly I am not sure if Peterson is under contract, or if Al Harris is for that matter. Time for me to do some research I guess.
I agree though, I have always liked Peterson.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Trolls you are embarrassing yourselves. Why don’t you go outside and play. It’s nice outside.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Vegas
According to KFFL.com Peterson is a Unrestricted Free Agent and Al Harris is still under contract.
On another note Terrell Suggs and Bart Scott are both UFA’s.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
At least we won’t have to worry about Mays getting taken with the 7th overall.
Stated yesterday he was staying at USC for his Senior year.
Phew!
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N21: who is the top corner in the draft and where is he projected to be taken? If it’s TOP 10, we’re screwed with or w/o Mays
January 14th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Still the best news yet is RR won’t be calling the defense, a little tid bit lost in the hostility towards Al Davis.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
WR’s, more than any other position, draft status hinges on the combine performances. Crabtree could go top 3 if he runs a 4.33 and could fall to 15th if he runs a 4.49.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Well if Cable remains HC, then I do think Bates would be a good hire as QB coach or as OC.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I motion we never mention the words Rob Ryan or RR ever again. Any seconds?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
You guys make me sick. Every last one of you. Especially you, Jerry.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
At least we won’t have to worry about Mays getting taken with the 7th overall.
Stated yesterday he was staying at USC for his Senior year.
Phew!
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N21: who is the top corner in the draft and where is he projected to be taken? If it’s TOP 10, we’re screwed with or w/o Mays
^^ Exactly….at least the old man won’t be tempted to take a another safety and pay him top 7 money.
By the way Huff needs to restructure his contract.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Dogg,
I think Scott and Suggs (maybe not as much) are a-typical 3-4 guys and have benefitted from playing around so much talent. Peterson is more of a tough, “meats and potatoes” type that we need.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Adjusted Scenario:
Sign Nnamdi to a long term deal with the intention of trading him to the Packers for a 1st & 6th round pick plus CB Al Harris to play opposite Chris Johnson. Nnanmdi would be very happy to be reunited with his old pal Chuck Woodson.
Then sign Mike Peterson, Terrell Suggs or Bart Scott. Hell Ray Lewis is also an UFA.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Post #29 says it all about mortimer. I miss the good old days. When people actually talked about the Raiders on a Raiders site. We all differ, but we are all the same when it comes to the Raiders. Don’t f-ing forget that.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
John thats not possible because we play against him this year.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
RR said:
N21: who is the top corner in the draft and where is he projected to be taken? If it’s TOP 10, we’re screwed with or w/o Mays
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Ohio States Malcolm Jenkins, 60, 200 lb DB.
Yeah, he’s slted top 10 on alot of charts and you know, may BE on our radar IF we UFA Nnamdi and get some picks…
January 14th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Vegas
Good point about the 3-4. We don’t even know if the Raiders D will be a 4-3 or a 3-4 base Defense yet. I think Morrison and Howard have the speed to thrive in a 3-4, especially with Suggs in the mix.
I do like Peterson too and would be very happy with his addition.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
254. Raider dogg said:
Then sign Mike Peterson, Terrell Suggs or Bart Scott. Hell Ray Lewis is also an UFA.
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Scott s playing well and T Sizzle is a beast. Just hope he keeps his helmet on at all times. That pirrana head of his frightens me and small children…
January 14th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Vegas
Good point about the 3-4. We don’t even know if the Raiders D will be a 4-3 or a 3-4 base Defense yet. I think Morrison and Howard have the speed to thrive in a 3-4, especially with Suggs in the mix.
I do like Peterson too and would be very happy with his addition.
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Not sure what direction our O and or D is going to take but if we do re- aline we’d need to swap out a significant portion of our personnel on both sides of theball especially in the trenches.
Daunting.
I hope it doesn’t happen because it would set us back at least another 2-3 years…
January 14th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Looks like the only way to run off the Raider haters is to make them mad, bye bye KK and MR. Now back to football.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
John thats not possible because we play against him this year.
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Hopefully we will be laughing at his weak azz “prevent from winning” defense. Slob.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Yeah I never understood why he does not blitz like Rex. I think he was afraid of loosing his job. One thing is for sure, Davis never told him not to blitz.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Charlie Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Post 34
Drafting best available only applys when you have a foundation that keeps you around 8-8.
We must draft for need.
Our lines have been neglected for too long.
I can not accept that we can not find talent on day one of the draft better than Harris,Sands and Warren.
Calvin Johnson is much better than Crabtree and look what happened to Detroit. Without a good nucleus skill guys are WORTHLESS.
^ Exactly….both lines need to be addressed LT/RT and Center and a beast of a DE and DT need to be added. I think there will be enough WR depth in this years draft class maybe grab one in Round 2-4.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Nnamdi
The personnel might be closer than you think. Kelly and Sands would be decent rotating in the middle. I always thought that Sands would succeed as the NT in a 3-4 just because of his size. Warren would suffice as well.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Darkknight don’t forget a run stuffing middle linebacker.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Whats up Raiderdogg
January 14th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
The biggest problem the Raiders face switching to a 3-4 is the linebackers are undersized for that defense.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Darkknight don’t forget a run stuffing middle linebacker.
^^ Of course! I like Rey and Brandon Spikes, but I think it will difficult to draft a MLB prospect with the #7 pick. Especially when one can be found later in the draft or they should look to sign a FA like Channing Crowder.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
What I cant believe was that they all three were healthy all year. I remember when we were all talking at the beginning of the season about how crazy it was only having three (decent) DT’s on the roster Kelly, Sands and Warren and I am surprised that they played all season long I think warren had a torn bi-cep muscle but was only out for a week or two.
I give Kelly credit for staying healthy and I imagine if we had two or three more guys to play DT that we could rotate in and out like the Giants do those three we had would have played better and had more juice at the end of the game.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Why are we even discussing the possibility of our defense switching to a 3-4. It’s simply not possible with the personel we have. We would need at least 5-6 additional/different players to even institute it.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Thats if the targeted guy is there in the later rounds.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Big shout out to SNB666! How are you my friend?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Bikini Girl on American Idol last night had a “smokin hot” body. wow.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Even the Giants wore out in the Superbowl last year allowing Brady to march right down the field and toss a TD to Moss to take the lead late in the game.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I still say we need to draft in this order of importance:
OL
DL
MLB
WR
FB (depending on OO recovery)
But this is how Al Davis will draft
Trade up to get Crabtree
CB
S
MLB (maybe)
January 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
ARRGGH…FCK MY A$$, IN BRISTOL, CON. IT…COULD…GO…ALL…THE…WAY…UGH…WAIT…AAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
But what if McCluster enters the draft?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
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Oakglenn, you have anything else to add?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Raiderdogg….I am stoked about Warren Hayes playing with the remaining Greatful Dead members on a tour!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Crabtree is big and if no blazing speed could be another Jerry Porter and never reach his potential.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Al pity Post #275 you know we need more DT’s why deny it?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Malcolm Jenkins will be the pick at #7 unless Nnamdi signs the tag or a long term deal before then.
We could always trade him and get a CB in return as part of the deal?
Maybe Donald Driver, Justin Harrell & Al Harris for Nnamdi?
or Nick Haper, Keith Bullock & a 1st round pick for Nnamdi?
or Plaxico Burress (if he’s cleared of charges) and a 1st round pick for Nnamdi?
Maybe Mike McKenzie, Lance Moore and a 1st rounder for Nnamdi?
or Santonio Holmes and a 1st round pick for Nnamdi?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Crabtree is big and if no blazing speed could be another Jerry Porter and never reach his potential.
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Judy Pouter reached her potential in the Snow Game in Denver a few years back, when Collins was still our QB.
Then she never saw it again.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
I laugh so hard when I think about how much money Jerry Porter is getting from the Jaguars to ride the bench and bring cancer into their locker room
January 14th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
You need a creative DC if your going to implement a 3-4. You can’t just change and expect it to work. A good 3-4 D has many different looks (think of B-More and lining up 350 LB Ngoti as a LB sometimes for example) and different blitz packages. We don’t have good blitzing LB’s, only 2 worthy LB’s in general, and Sands and Kelly would not work as a NT. Seems like it would take years to implement a 3-4 plan with our current talent and coaching.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Switching to a 3-4 base without the proper personnel would be an exercise in FUTILITY for the defense. They would be confused and the run defense would probably get worse.
Ryan already tried that when he was first hired and the old man didn’t draft the right personnel or sign the right free agents to play a base 3-4.
Ryan had to play Warren Sapp as a 3-4 DE for crying out loud?!? LOL Terrible!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
I don’t deny they need more DT’s, why did you put denial in your post?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
SNB666
Warren does a pretty good Jerry impression. What’s with $95 a ticket though? I know that lawn seats are $35 but I can’t stand the Shoreline as it is and I despise their lawn area.
Warren Haynes is also touring with the Allman Brothers this spring. The Allmans are celebrating 40 years as a band this year.
If I had to choose I would take the Allman’s over the Dead but I’m still not sure if the Allman’s are coming out West, they rarely do anymore.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
STOP WITH THE 3-4 TALK. IT WONT HAPPEN, SHOULDN’T HAPPEN. We don’t have the personel for it. enough already please. Maybe Stabler will come out of retirement and start throwing bombs to Branch again.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
the donks defense is going to be a joke in the 3-4 defense. I like it!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
You Davis lackeys sure get fired up over Chris Mortenson
# KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
i think the donks will be terrible for quite some time. i will miss the rivalry though. without shannahan the hatred is somewhat diminished. McDaniels will flame out just like lame kiffin.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
SilverNblack666 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I still say we need to draft in this order of importance:
OL
DL
MLB
WR
FB (depending on OO recovery)
But this is how Al Davis will draft
Trade up to get Crabtree
CB
S
MLB (maybe)
^^ that is funny and sad, because thats what the old man will most likey end up doing.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
You Davis lackeys sure get fired up over Chris Mortenson
# KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
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KoolKell, can you just shut the fuk up?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Well before you right off the 3-4 and our current tackle rotation, Ryan was the nimwit that put Sapp in the nose tackle position when he tried to convert to it and also had to play defensive ends as linebackers to stop the run. What an idiot.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
You monkeys sure get fired up over Chris Mortenson
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Sorry Al Party I misread your post I was wrong.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Vegas
Ngoti usually only drops into coverage on zone blitzes. It may take time, but a 3-4 base D is not entirely out of the question. Plus, I say with a sense of tradition, that the 3 Super Bowls that the Raiders have won, they did with a 3-4 base D.
If you couldn’t tell, I tend to prefer the 3-4 base D. Maybe I’m biased but a guy can dream.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
You monkeys sure get fired up over Chris Mortenson
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
# John Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
“STOP WITH THE 3-4 TALK. IT WONT HAPPEN, SHOULDN’T HAPPEN. We don’t have the personel for it. enough already please. Maybe Stabler will come out of retirement and start throwing bombs to Branch again.”
Who are you and what makes you an expert?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
RaiderDogg most long time Raider fans favor the 3-4 seeing they won three Superbowls with it, me included.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
the donks defense is going to be a joke in the 3-4 defense. I like it!
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An 8-8 record could take the division next year (again)! If we can get someone like Bates in here who will work with Russell and the receivers all offseason, now has never been a better time to rise up.. Norvel and the chargers are going to be worse next year. Same as Denver. Chiefs are rebuilding. I’m not going to hold my breath, but there has never been a better time to take the division.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
darkknight01
As long as our owner wears a drool rag in his lap we are f cked.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
# John Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
“STOP WITH THE 3-4 TALK. IT WONT HAPPEN, SHOULDN’T HAPPEN. We don’t have the personel for it. enough already please. Maybe Stabler will come out of retirement and start throwing bombs to Branch again.”
Who are you and what makes you an expert?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Well before you right off the 3-4 and our current tackle rotation, Ryan was the nimwit that put Sapp in the nose tackle position when he tried to convert to it and also had to play defensive ends as linebackers to stop the run. What an idiot.
^^ Thats where the mind screw of Brayton came into play as well. Playing him as a standup 3-4 OLB??!!
Ryan was forced to do so, because he didn’t have anyone that can play the position. Once again, he didn’t have the right personnel because the old man didn’t know what he was doing.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
RaiderRockstar
Keep throwing out those scenarios, I like the way you think.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I think Davis is doing the right thing by bringing in a few coaches to pick their brains on how committed they are to helping him out after the Kiffin fiasco.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
i think the donks will be terrible for quite some time. i will miss the rivalry though. without shannahan the hatred is somewhat diminished. McDaniels will flame out just like lame kiffin.
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John, i think McDaniels is a flamer too. The rivalry won’t be as important, but it’ll still be there. We’ve got ex donks Walker, Lelie, Carlisle, Green, Warren on the roster and might add Bates or Dennison to the coaching staff. Plus McFadden was a donk fan growing up. I’m still waiting to see him do a mile high salute after scoring on them in Denver …
January 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
SilverNblack666 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
darkknight01
As long as our owner wears a drool rag in his lap we are f cked.
^^ Yeah, but your forgetting he is also the GM!
Ridiculous isn’t it?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Dogg,
If it works I’m all for it. Have no preference myself, would just like to see them rank in top 10 against the run one year. I really think if we added another good LB, either a strong MLB and switch Kirk to outside or an upgrade at the 3rd LB spot, a better DE and D-line rotation and re-sign Nmamdi we can be pretty good with what we got going.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
The 3-4 was Ryans call, Davis is the one that made the switch to the 4-3 long ago.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RaiderDogg
What a rip off these days going to concerts. I don’t want to sound like a grumpy old man or anything but I saw Tool at the Tracadero in San Francisco in 1992 for $10
Smashing Pumpkins and Hole at the I Beam on Haight Street in 1990 $6
I saw the stones for $20 in 1984
January 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Ah yeah, you Davis lackeys. Davis picks the mind of prospective Coaches every year. He’s real good at it too.
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Vegas
You are right, it’s all about results, regardless of how you get them. I agree with sliding Morrison outside and getting a true MLB to stop the run.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
$70.00 to see AC/DC? I don’t think so.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Did Huff play a zone scheme at Texas? Maybe in a cover 2 defense he could do better. At least I hope so, for his trade value at least.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
point taken Kool, let’s move on now
January 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Liar
# Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
The 3-4 was Ryans call, Davis is the one that made the switch to the 4-3 long ago.
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January 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
# SilverNblack666 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
“RaiderDogg
What a rip off these days going to concerts. I don’t want to sound like a grumpy old man or anything but I saw Tool at the Tracadero in San Francisco in 1992 for $10
Smashing Pumpkins and Hole at the I Beam on Haight Street in 1990 $6
I saw the stones for $20 in 1984″
Holy crap SNB! I was at that show at the Troc, Maynard painted his entire body blue and was just wearing shorts. Sound familiar?
I used to see Primus at the Berkeley Square for $5.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
darkknight01
Al Davis put himself on Scholarship so there is no way we can fire him or even trade him. Were are stuck with him until he dies or relinquishes control of the team. Drool rag and all.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Vegas Raider, this KoolKell character is all upset that I put MR in his place about the word thug while making him leave the blog in a mad state of mind, and he thinks I am someone named Oakglenn because of it. They act like they are brothers or the same blogger, nice!
January 14th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
RaiderDogg
I am sure you were at the Great American Music Hall in SF when Government Mule played, so was I.
Primus at Berkley Square for $5 I was there man…more than once!!
Do you remember the girls in the cages hanging from the ceiling? (Tool show)
January 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
SNB
I do remember the girls in cages. Reminded me of the club Terminator. Fond memories.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
It’s not about the money, Nnamdi wants out. It wouldn’t matter what Big AL offered him he wouldn’t take it. Now C-Wood wanted 10mil per and he got it with Green Bay. Now if we franchise him again he’s going to be even more upset about still being in Oakland and without a doubt leave asap as an UFA.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Nice to see some talk about the Dead, but as a point of clarification, there is no Grateful Dead without Jerry. Now they are a cover band even if most of them are covering themselves. Not that that is bad, just sad. Now every show is a Bob show, and Bob Weir has no soul.
At least I got to see the real thing 20+ times (wonder how much that took off the end of my life, lol). Dylan & the Dead was my favorite show, in Anaheim. Fried hard.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
I wonder it there’s been any attempts at Headquarters to slip Davis a dirty catheter?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Dear Jerry:
“NOW” do you beleive the Raider Nation? When we say that is us (Raiders) against the world?
It is without a dought that a lot of journalists, in this case, ESPN, hates the Raider organization for one reason or another.
This Mortensen story is only an example.
Regards.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
BSJ
I have you trumped. I saw the original GD over 40 times, but I cheated. I used to work for Bill Graham Presents checking tickets for counterfeiters, so I saw many a show.
To clarify even further, Bob Weir is not a member of The Dead, it is Phil Lesh and Bill Kreutzman. Bob is all about Ratdog, who sounds more like a cover band than the Dead. Saw Ratdog with Gov’t Mule last summer and Mule destroyed them, musically of course.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Ha haaa just read Lombardi’s blog on the National Football Post. He’s calling Herrera ‘Bagdad Bob’ remember that guy who was spewing all of that proaganda as the US forces were beqaring down on them?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Of course Davis being a Hitler admirer, it’s probably pretty hard to get to his catheters. Eh Oakglenn?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
# SilverNblack666 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
“RaiderDogg
What a rip off these days going to concerts. I don’t want to sound like a grumpy old man or anything but I saw Tool at the Tracadero in San Francisco in 1992 for $10
Smashing Pumpkins and Hole at the I Beam on Haight Street in 1990 $6
I saw the stones for $20 in 1984″
Holy crap SNB! I was at that show at the Troc, Maynard painted his entire body blue and was just wearing shorts. Sound familiar?
I used to see Primus at the Berkeley Square for $5.
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I saw Janes Addiction at the Night Break for free on a Sushi Sunday
Rage Against the Machine for $5 at The Full Moon Saloon
Nirvana at the Covered Wagon for $6
Red Hot Chilli Peppers for $5 at the Keystone In PA
Stray Cats Old Waldorf $10
But this was my fav show for $8 at the I Beam
Pearl Jam
Alice In chains
Nirvana
Screaming Trees
January 14th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
What happen to nobody wants to coach in Oakland or no players want to play in Oakland? Just a bunch of loud mouth haters. There are so many coaching possibilities and new directions that the Raiders could take that you almost have to feel positive about the up coming season and seasons to come.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Hey KK don’t be so ignorant, Davis agreed to sign Sapp so Ryan could implement his favored 3-4 scheme, remember this article? No of course not, but you can read it anyway KK, have fun and don’t get mad as I debunk another of your silly accusations about being a liar or Oakglenn lol.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/c/a/2004/12/19/SPGJ9AEBRJ1.DTL
January 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Bob no longer joins in the “Dead” concerts? No great loss I guess. My enthusiasm ended in August 1995 (gawd, 13 years ago! Wow I’m old).
Someday I’ll join you at a Jerry and PigPen show, presented of course by Bill Graham…
January 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
“Of course Davis being a Hitler admirer”
shut up Kool Kell, you stupid n1gger
January 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Jazz Is Dead is another good group to see when they play.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Hey KK don’t be so ignorant, Davis agreed to sign Sapp so Ryan could implement his favored 3-4 scheme, remember this article?
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Anybody who would sign Sapp to play Nose in a 3-4 is an idiot. Post the article,
Anybody who signs a Cover 2 Corner to play Man 2 Man is also a idiot. The same idiot.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
IDIB
That I Beam show was quite a line up. I miss Alice In Chains so much more than Nirvana. I saw Nirvana & Pearl Jam open for the Chili’s on NYE and personally though that Nirvana sucked live. That was right when Nevermind came out and the whole grunge thing was taking off.
The Chili’s had everyone take off their shirts and swing them in the air! So many breasteses
January 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
I did post it and Nancy Gay is a Davis basher, so you know this is the truth of the matter.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Al Davis is a pimp and Tom Cable will be named ‘Coach of the Year’ next season
wakka wakka wakka
January 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
# Donald Trump Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
“Of course Davis being a Hitler admirer”
shut up Kool Kell, you stupid n1gge
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Oooh, ouch, that really hurt.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Ryan is and was an idiot, plain and simple, and Davis is an idiot for listening to him.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
KK Davis is gewish.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
$70.00 to see AC/DC? I don’t think so.
^^ Yeah that is freakin a joke!
January 14th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
“Bob no longer joins in the “Dead” concerts? No great loss I guess. My enthusiasm ended in August 1995 (gawd, 13 years ago! Wow I’m old).
Someday I’ll join you at a Jerry and PigPen show, presented of course by Bill Graham…”
BSJ
Bob joined Phil Lesh & Friends on stage on NYE 2008 at the Bill Graham Civic. From what I hear Bob is a major pain in the a$$ and he and Phil don’t get along.
I will see you at that show, I think Jimi will be playing too. I won’t bother showing up in time for the opener, Elvis. He puts on a good show from what I hear, just not my style.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
How sick is it for a Hebrew to admirer Hitler?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Howie Long was on Foxsports Radio talking to Chris Myers a little while ago and he was stumping hard for Terry Robiskie as HC. Said he was sure that no one could match the staff of quality assistants Robiskie could bring with him to the Raiders. Howie didn’t get into specifics.
Robiskie? God help us.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
In fact, as I remember KK, Gruden was a big Sapp supporter too but I am not going to dig up a link this time.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Al Davis Pity Party Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Hey KK don’t be so ignorant, Davis agreed to sign Sapp so Ryan could implement his favored 3-4 scheme, remember this article?
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Anybody who would sign Sapp to play Nose in a 3-4 is an idiot. Post the article,
Anybody who signs a Cover 2 Corner to play Man 2 Man is also a idiot. The same idiot.
^^Yep…and who is that again? The old stubborn man who is the owner, GM, personnel man, wannabe coach for the Raiders and why the team has been terrible the last 6 freakin years!
January 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
From what I remember Sapp was going to be converted to a DE in the 3-4. We all saw how that worked out.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
# Donald Trump Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
“Of course Davis being a Hitler admirer”
shut up Kool Kell, you stupid n1gger
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LMFAO! He called StoolSmell a thug
January 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
BIG AL’s GOON Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
What happen to nobody wants to coach in Oakland or no players want to play in Oakland? Just a bunch of loud mouth haters. There are so many coaching possibilities and new directions that the Raiders could take that you almost have to feel positive about the up coming season and seasons to come.
^^Yeah sure, you figure the old man would get it right sometime in the next five years, especially since the last 6 have been terrible.
You would think no?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
If Namdi truly wants out then the old man better get get those two first round picks for him.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
The best thing about the 3-4 is the o-line does not know who the 4th and 5th pass rushers are going to be.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
SilverNblack666 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
darkknight01
Al Davis put himself on Scholarship so there is no way we can fire him or even trade him. Were are stuck with him until he dies or relinquishes control of the team. Drool rag and all.
^^ Oh I know and it is sad…
January 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Dakota,
I think Al Davis is picking all of the important assistants this year. He’s already picked the receivers coach and defensive backs coach. He is interviewing people for both coordinator positions.
Robiskie’s network of assistants means nothing here. Al Davis will hire a head coach after he finishes building the staff.
In reality, the head coach in Al’s system has four roles:
1. Public relations (post game pressers etc…)
2. Offseason events manager (Oversee training camp, mini-camps, and other events)
3. Manage practices
4. Make sure right preparations are made for game day (curfews, pre and post game speeches etc(
January 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
How arrogant do you have to be to think that You, (80yr fool) is the best option of running the Raiders from a hospital bed?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
DK01
I think a sign and trade with Nnamdi is more likely. Just like the Chiefs did with Jared Allen last year. As of right now I don’t think there are any teams with two 1st round picks barring any future trades.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Dogg, the Eagles have 2 first round picks, but they also have Sheppard, Brown & Samuel at CB.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I pisses me off to think that old man Al really doesn’t give a crap about us fans and what is really best for this organization.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
LMFAO! He called StoolSmell a thug
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Hahahaha Hehehehehe LMAO, Hahahaha Heheheehe Whoooooooboy.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
That I Beam show was quite a line up. I miss Alice In Chains so much more than Nirvana. I saw Nirvana & Pearl Jam open for the Chili’s on NYE and personally though that Nirvana sucked live. That was right when Nevermind came out and the whole grunge thing was taking off.
The Chili’s had everyone take off their shirts and swing them in the air! So many breasteses
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Its funny cuz i remember that day seeing Nirvana at a in store in Rough Trade records on Haight (for Free)so seeing the show that night i too had a bigger impression with seeing Alice in Chains
Alice In Chains was phenomenal in general. The Guitar player had such a tight sound it was really un grunge for the times. I saw them again (or after??) with Iggy at the Stone on Broadway. I don’t think they are going to be the same without Lane though
RHCP - Haha yea I saw them do that at the Warfield. I think to the song the break into is ‘ I want to Party On Your P****’
January 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
DK01
I think a sign and trade with Nnamdi is more likely. Just like the Chiefs did with Jared Allen last year. As of right now I don’t think there are any teams with two 1st round picks barring any future trades.
^^ Thats what I think will happen as well, if Namdi truly wants out….
January 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
What kind of out of whack owner trades for and then signs an outsider who sucks in man coverage to a lucrative contract without trying to give that money to the homegrown product like Namdi who is a better corner??
Old stubborn man Al Davis thats who!
Ridiculous….
January 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I think the Raiders should trade Nnamdi Asomugha to the Browns in exchange for Travis Daniels, Brodney Pool, Dave Zastudil and a 2nd round draft pick.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
“Dogg, the Eagles have 2 first round picks, but they also have Sheppard, Brown & Samuel at CB.”
RaiderRockstar
Thanks for the info. Think about the possibility, Nnamdi would be a huge upgrade over Brown and we all know that Sheppard isn’t happy in Philly. The question is Sheppard starting caliber or more of a nickel?
Speaking of the Eagles, Dawkins is an Unrestricted Free Agent. I know he is up in years but I have always liked that guy. He could provide some much needed veteran leadership that the secondary has lacked since Rod Woodson retired.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
S&B,
They have control over timeout management too! Remember Cable calling the T.O. to ice the kicker, but the kicker missed the first try and nailed it after the T.O.? Classic Cable.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
IDIB
Alice In Chains was the sh1t. Never the same without Lane.
I saw them as the opening band of the Monsters of Rock tour at the Cow Palace. They opened for Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer. They held their own.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Who do you think has more to do with this, Al Davis or Chris Mortenson:
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Gotta love the “Secret Song” btw
January 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Dogg, what about a trade of Asomugha & Huff for Brown & Sheppard plus maybe a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick?
I think Dawkins will do whatever it takes to finish his career in Philly …
January 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I gotta figure the DeAngelo Hall signing was the last straw for Nnamdi
January 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Rockstar
I would be ok with that, except give me at least a 1st round pick in the mix. Nnamdi commands that and Huff is a former first round top 10 pick. I am still holding out hope that the Raiders re-sign Chris Johnson so I’m not sure Brown needs to be in the equation. I’m still of the thought process to give Huff a shot at corner.
Just give me Sheppard and a bunch of picks including a 1st rounder. Although the Eagles 1st round pick will be a late pick unless the Eagles trade up first.
You are probably right about Dawkins.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
i can’t post …?
January 14th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
darkknight01 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
What kind of out of whack owner trades for and then signs an outsider who sucks in man coverage to a lucrative contract without trying to give that money to the homegrown product like Namdi who is a better corner??
Old stubborn man Al Davis thats who!
Ridiculous….
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You know I can’t stand Al Davis, but maybe Nnamdi had already informed the Raiders of his intentions of not re-signing with the team and Al wanted to lock up his replacement?
Who knows.
Hopefully we can keep Nnamdi. The way I look at it, if a team holds the franchise tag over your head and at the same time makes you a lucrative contract offer and the team refuses to trade you, you almost have to take it.
If you don’t take the offer and then play for the franchise tag amount and get hurt you lose big time. Nnamdi gets $12 million for the franchise tag, but leaves $22-28 million dollars in guaranteed bonuses sitting on the table. That means he would lose $10-16 million off the top if injured.
If he refuses to sign the franchise tag and the contract offer and sits out, he would lose a minimum of $12 million. He would lose the injury risk, but his reputation would be harmed and he would never make up the $12 million in his next contract.
The only way Nnamdi wouldn’t sign with us if offered a huge deal is if he is just so fed up with the Raiders he would rather play for another team and lose $12 million just on general principle. That would take one heck of a strong person to leave $12 million on the table.
I think that right now he wants out and his agent is telling him to go on the NFL Network and act disgruntled and all that, but at the end of the day if Al says here is a contract, if you don’t sign it we are going to tag you and we will not trade you, then nnamdi is going to stay here.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Davis is no match for todays Agents, especially ones with intellligent top-rated clients.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Let’s see what’s happening in here today…hmmm, nothing really new. Like usual though, there’s Kool Kell, chasing that tail.
Good one KK, calling AL a rascist by (once again) mentioning an allegiance to naziism…and once again showing just how ignorant your statements are. There isn’t a logical person anywhere who would say Al Davis is rascist.
For diversification, opportunities, and equal treatment, AL’s record far outpaces any owner/GM/coach/front office in ALL of the sports world.
KK — your blind stubborness about AL makes it impossible for us to take most of your opinions seriously. Your NON-arguments = throwing anything in to chum-up some action (regardless of its veracity) and hoping someone debates an un-winnable subject (once again). Mature.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Davis is no match for todays Agents, especially ones with intellligent top-rated clients
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pure speculation.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Nice post Dakota
It’s all about leverage.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Has Fassell interviewed yet? Might as well keep Cable dangling as long as possible.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Dakota - AD has him over a barrel. But in all honesty how bad is it?
Here take millions of dollars for a long term deal with a team that has been having some issues but is based where you grew up and have a lot of community ties or take millions of dollars guaranteed based on the highest paid guy at your position, which is the highest paid position in the league.
January 14th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I don’t think I said Davis was racist. I just said how sick it was for a Hebrew to admire Hitler.
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You have some serious issues Kell. Btw, are you a man or woman? Hard to tell with the name “Kell”…
January 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I saw the Nnamdi interview on the NFL Network last night and aside for expressing his feelings about seeing what he would be worth in free agency, I was surprised by the LACK of negativity. He was upbeat about what the Raiders did the last 2 games and wanted to see what they did with the Head Coach. Not exactly what he would have said if hehad a closed mind on returning. If he wanted out, he has the opportunity to express it and he did not.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
The Lions are pissed right now. QB Sam Bradford is announcing his plans to stay in school this afternoon.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Samir this is the only thing you need to know
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
KK — Tell us how you know Cable’s dangling? Any chance he and AL made arrangements to take this time for the team to make the right decision?
Here’s an idea…instead of just trying the same ol’ tired argument, try a real subject about the team. Like, tell us who would be a better coach for the Raiders than Cable (or Gilbride)?
Don’t know why you’re in a rush to hear who we hire — according to you, it’ll be the wrong choice anyway. What a fan.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Samir
Slayer is always an intense show, especially if you throw in those other bands.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
The same-ole stats are pretty clear, no
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
HayseDaze
Google it you uninformed Zombie.
I happen to read “Slick”
January 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Just give me Sheppard and a bunch of picks including a 1st rounder.
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sounds like a good plan Dogg
January 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
IDIB,
Yeah, obviously Nnamdi will be able to feed his family, lol, but the risk is real. If he signs that franchise tag and gets a major knee injury he can kiss the huge deal goodbye, and although any one of us could live the rest of our lives on the $5 or $6 million Nnamdi would receive from the franchise tag (after the IRS takes its pound and the agent takes his commission) if nnamdi lands the $22+ million in a long term deal that could make a real difference for generations and generations of his family.
Is Nnamdi willing to risk that? He might, but I sure as hell wouldn’t.
Personally, I think C. Wood whispering in Nnamdi’s ear about how great it is to play for an organization that has class and is run in a professional manner might be the biggest reason Nnamdi wants out.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
It appears that the football talk has ended.
Have a good one y’all
January 14th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Dogg
I’m talking football. Al Davis Football, for chrisakes:
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
It appears that the football talk has ended.
Have a good one y’all
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# RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Samir
Slayer is always an intense show, especially if you throw in those other bands.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Personally, I think C. Wood whispering in Nnamdi’s ear about how great it is to play for an organization that has class and is run in a professional manner might be the biggest reason Nnamdi wants out.
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The Raiders still finished with 5 wins, despite 2 HC’s, 3 play callers, the benching of Huff, Routt, Curry, Harris, etc and the midseason release of DeAngelo Hall. Plus both FB’s and our top 2 WR’s landed on IR pretty early. The Packers had NONE of those issues and only managed 6 wins. They couldn’t stop the run either. Now they fired the entire defensive staff. The grass can’t be THAT much greener in GB can it? plus it’s stinking cold there. Too cold for JR to play, that’s for sure!
January 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I’ve got the book right in front of me. Do you believe everything written and published is true — especially when it can be bent into any fashion by the ill-intended writer? For instance, we all know YOU can’t write an objective paragraph.
The greatest minds in the world have studied Hitler and other monsters like him — it doesn’t mean one must “admire” the person.
Study and learn, KK — something you should be teaching your grandkids. Open the mind, dude — you’ve only got so long to do it.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
The Lions are pissed right now. QB Sam Bradford is announcing his plans to stay in school this afternoon.
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That pisses me off, that means the Lions will select a LT for sure and the other two will be gone before we pick. Damn it.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Right. No rift bteween Kiffin/Davis either.
Hayes, where do you get your information, Palm Readers?
January 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Mr. Davis is waiting for the Ravens to lose in Pittsburgh so that he can interview Hue Jackson.
He would also like to interview OC Todd Haley from the Cardinals
January 14th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
First Daze tells me it didn’t happen, then he tells me not to believe it.
HayesDaze, sorry, I don’t choose to be ignorant. I choose to be informed.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
The Lions are pissed right now. QB Sam Bradford is announcing his plans to stay in school this afternoon.
^^Good choice by Bradford, he needs more experience in college and it will only help him more.
I don’t think Stafford or Bradford will be anything special in the NFL anyways.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Don’t forget about the 4th LT Jason Smith. Some ‘experts’ have him rated higher than Monroe and Oher so he might be worthy of pick 7.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
The Lions are pissed right now. QB Sam Bradford is announcing his plans to stay in school this afternoon.
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That pisses me off, that means the Lions will select a LT for sure and the other two will be gone before we pick. Damn it.
^^ Yeah, and I don’t think the Lions will pick Stafford at #1, so it looks as though the pick will be Andre Davis for them.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
You mean Andre Smith DK?
January 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
A good portion of NFL teams are searching for coaches, from HC all the way down the ladder. This is an annual thing for most teams that miss the Playoffs.
Half (yes, half) the teams in the NFL have as many on-field question marks as the Raiders have right now — not last season, but RIGHT NOW.
What the team is going through is not unusual…just repetitious because we haven’t made the Playoffs in so long (yes, KK, we know why).
January 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Mark Sanchez from USC was reportedly waiting for Bradford to make his decision. If Bradford had gone pro, Sanchez stays in school. Sanchez will probably be Detroit’s pick.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
the Raiders should trade Nnamdi Asomugha to the Lions in exchange for Jeff Backus, Dominic Raiola, Daniel Bullocks and their 2nd round pick.
(they have the 1st pick in the 2nd round, right?)
January 14th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
What portion of the NFL do records like these represent?
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
if the Lions draft a QB #1 overall, it’ll be another scenario like the Ravens had. Flacco competing with Boller & Smith. The Lions have Culpepper & Stanton under contract next season. Hopefully the new HC is smart enough to start the rook!
January 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RaiderRockstar
Why would we want anyone from the Lions?? Quit it with those trade scenarios…they’re horrible.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Crimedog Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Don’t forget about the 4th LT Jason Smith. Some ‘experts’ have him rated higher than Monroe and Oher so he might be worthy of pick 7.
^^Jason Smith freaks me out a bit. He played at a small school and he is only 295 right now. A little on the light side for a franchise LT IMO.
He reminds of Chris Williams last year and Williams got hurt and I don’t think played a down last year.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
Right. No rift bteween Kiffin/Davis either.
Hayes, where do you get your information, Palm Readers?
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Where did I ever say there was NO rift? As if you’d remember my stance on Kiffin before he got fired. After awhile, it became obvious to everyone the rift was real — and being the real fan I am, I backed Kiffin right to the end. Objectively called him out for his COACHING failures and (few) successes, but I never said there was no rift with AL.
KK = Rumor-monger = Mort
January 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Look, when you keep getting records like these, you need to do something different
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
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Oakglenn, do you have anything else to add to this?
January 14th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
HayesDaze,
Sorry, I don’t think what the Raiders are going through right now is usual by any means. Name one other time where a team has gone through this many coaching changes in such a short time span. It is unprecedented. It is a mess on a grad scale. Trying to minimize it is ludicrous. No other team is going through what the Raiders are right now. Other teams have normal problems, you know, like the coach hasn’t worked out after a three year stint. That is not the case in Oakland and you know it. We have burned through way too many coaches and the team was placed in the hands of someone clearly not qualified to be an NFL HC and now he might be our best option! We are in it big right now and unless Al can pull one out of his hat then we are going to be down for a while.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Crimedog — I’d take Calvin Johnson from those losers in a heartbeat…
January 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
This years draft will be interesting due to the lack of a real can’t miss number one college player.
After watching Bradford in the BCS Championship game, I think Detroit will have a real tough decision to select a QB, even if Bradford stayed out, or select a OT to build in, then out, at the OL and take the best player at the position you want to build first.
Bradford definetly needs to hit the weight room, and his foot speed is not great. On the plus side he has great footwork and has the ability to play under center or in the shotgun, his familarity in a pro offense is very evident. The timing routes he had down real well. In the shotgun on championship game night he starred down his receivers.
The quickest fix is to build your OL or DL and find a QB in the later rounds.
Tebow has decided to stay in school, good move his QB skill and overall footwork in the pocket are in need of help. His heart and desire can’t be questioned, I see him as a tight end if he doesn’t improve the skill at QB.
The Detroit selection will definetly move the board at this year’s draft to be not as predictable as in past years.
The Raiders will need to entertain any offers to move down for more picks. In the past the seven spot in the draft have made moves to trade down and still target a player who they think will probably be there.
I looked at the draft trade chart and if we swap with a team at number 14,13,or 12 we would receive their number one pick as well as a second round pick between 42 thru 45. Our second pick would be at number 38.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Yeah but they say it looks like Jason Smith has the build to put on about 20 pounds of muscle. You can’t rule people out cause they played at a small school. Jerry Rice played at a small school. He is a converted tight end so you know he has the athleticism to pass protect. Also, no one can project if someone is going to get injured or not. Williams had some pre-existing injuries but the Bears drafted him anyways which was a mistake. To my knowledge, Smith has no pre-existing injuries.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
It appears that the football talk has ended.
Have a good one y’all
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# RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Samir
Slayer is always an intense show, especially if you throw in those other bands.”
KoolKell
Busted. Unfortunately I am easily distracted by music talk. All of that racist nonsense was the reason for the first statement. Wasn’t even directed at you.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Mark Sanchez from USC was reportedly waiting for Bradford to make his decision. If Bradford had gone pro, Sanchez stays in school. Sanchez will probably be Detroit’s pick.
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I don’t know ExLA, I read somewhere that Sanchez would be the 4th best QB in this draft, with Bradford dropping out that would only move him up to third…
Hey, ugly Laker game last night, Kobe shot like Iverson for a while, but hit it when it counted I guess. Another big game tonight.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Dakota –
We may be in it deep, but why does it mean it’s going to stay that way? Just because AL’s at the top? Entirely too simplistic — there are entirely too many variables involved.
If AL brought in every Playoff GM, coach, and player left in the hunt right now (and gave them full autonomy), it would still not guarantee a Playoff run next year. Too many variables.
There is NOTHING in a 5-year-old record that shows where this team and its players are right now — it shows where the team WAS. Anyone who didn’t see the improvement the last few months just didn’t see the games.
It’s possible (not necessarily likely, but possible) that this team can dramatically turn it around like any other team in recent memory. The fact they’ve fallen short isn’t lost on me — but I’d rather fight until things get better than to quit. And I know AL’s got that same kind of fight in him.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Solid post Dell.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Raider Dell
This is why I have mentioned earlier that we should trade Nnamdi to someone like New Orleans or Houston. New Orleans desperately needs help in the secondary and Dunta Robinson’s contract is almost due up. In return, we could get their 1st and 2nd round picks. This would allow us to give Chris Johnson a decent contract and draft a replacement CB in the draft.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
and I’m out for the day, see y’all tomorrow or really late tonight after the Spurs win.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Just messin with you Dakota & ExLA
January 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
CrimeDog
The Nnamdi trade would net us at least two additional draft picks besides my scenario if we moved down the draft 3- 5 spots.
I have no clue who would want to trade up as of yet, the hype of the draft will start in April, we may have a good idea what some of the other teams needs are after free agency.
The trade of Nnamdi will net us two first round picks and and if we move down we will have a extra second round pick, in this year’s draft.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
what good is trading Nnamdi?? Al will blow the picks on the fastest DB’s available..
January 14th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Dell — I’m all for moving down to grab an extra pick or two, but Nnamdi’s not the one to do it with. Give Chris Johnson the moderate starter’s salary he deserves, but losing Nnamdi instantly makes the defense take a step backward. There are better ways to get better, even if it means Nnamdi gets franchised again.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
KK says:
“What kind of gullible delusional schizophrenic person thinks it’s going to get better in your 80’s?”
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What kind of gullible, delusional schizophrenic…
…continues to hammer-away at an 80-year-old man who is in the most enviable of all positions in life — to do things HIS way right to the end, because he worked his entire life to allow him to do it?
Oh, that’s right…the all-knowing KK.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
HappyDaze#37
I was responding to CrimeDog, I don’t want to see the Raiders trade Nnamdi. The franchise tag is only which is left to try and sign him or direct a trade to be compensated for his talents.
The possibility is he is franchised again at $12.5 million and lose him for 2010 with no compensation or try to work on a long term deal.
Pretty critical to me to find out what he decides in a month and what direction he wants to take.
Dakota had a great comment above this post on the tough decision Nnamdi has to make.
Security of money or freedom from Oakland.
I agree with keeping Chris Johnson, he will be not as costly as other FA’s, we definetly should sign him.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Look, when you keep getting records like these, you need to do something different
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
^^Usually teams FIRE the GM after the 3rd season of that crap. To bad Al can’t just retire.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
KotexKell how is it you are a Raiders fan but hate Al Davis so badly? Are you just a Raiders fan because your husband is?
January 14th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Just like MR has been told, Mike Lombardi is more responsible than Al Davbis for these records KK.
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
Mike Lombardi, KoolKell, destroyed a playoff roster with his bad selections in free agency and the draft. Al Davis is fixing this mess. Al needs to quit leaving the day to day operations to others the way I see it.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
KotexKell do you ever shut up? I bet you drive your husband NUTS…
January 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Well Jason Smith is another one of those converted TE’s I believe and IF he can bulk up to 315 at least, that would be a good thing for him. I’m not sold on him just yet at all.
Lets see how long Smiths arms are before he even be considered as the #7 pick and see if he adds weight.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
who gives a crap about mort, like wow man stop crying…
January 14th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Al is to stubborn to trade Aso. He will franchise him again.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
darkknight01 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Look, when you keep getting records like these, you need to do something different
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
^^Usually teams FIRE the GM after the 3rd season of that crap. To bad Al can’t just retire.
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Darknight
Your logic has no facts, let me give you one GM that lasted 20 years never won a playoff game, and had a worst draft record than Davis, any guess.
Carl Petersen KC Chiefs.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Man, KK — You just want to get smacked around some more?
HayesDaze#37 Says:
Dakota –
We may be in it deep, but why does it mean it’s going to stay that way? Just because AL’s at the top? Entirely too simplistic — there are entirely too many variables involved.
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KK says:
This is the type of your disingenuous lying, that your holier than thou attitude keeps you from acknowledging.
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I’m trying to figure out where I lied in there, KK. Your IQ is starting to show now. I made a statement that you didn’t like, so you called me a liar. Owwweee, that really hurts.
Please tell me what a “disingenuous lie” is…is it different than a genuine lie?
Edumecate me some more!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Oh, well then. There’s always Carl Petersen. I feel so much better. You too eh Dell?
January 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Dakota,
It sure makes it easier to watch the Laker’s when they are on a road trip. I’m on EST and usually the games start at 10:30 pm so it makes for a long next day. When I lived in Mpls. I was on CST as you are and it was easier. So many times waking up and not seeing the end of the game. lol
January 14th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
why interview so many days apart, lets get this thing rolling already.all the guys we’re interested in aren’t doing anything right now unless there is a mystery candidate, damn.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
You apologists try to make it seem like he’s just a little old man, who simply owns the team. You know damned well what I’m taking about. You read my post!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Question: Why doesn’t Dakota spend his every waking hour on a Laker blog.
Answer: Dakota prefers to constantly COMPLAIN.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
why hire assistants without a head coach, that is a bad sign
January 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
lets keep it raider in this bit..
January 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Raider Dell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
darkknight01 Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Look, when you keep getting records like these, you need to do something different
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
^^Usually teams FIRE the GM after the 3rd season of that crap. To bad Al can’t just retire.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Darknight
Your logic has no facts, let me give you one GM that lasted 20 years never won a playoff game, and had a worst draft record than Davis, any guess.
Carl Petersen KC Chiefs.
^^
Queefs have sucked most of that time, especially when they were stupid and got rid of Marty, which was good for the Raiders actually.
Matt Millen stayed to long as well.
If a team doesn’t show improvement over a 6 year period and then GM or personnel man is still around, then it is pretty damn obvious that the GM or personnel man need to go. Coaches can only take the full blame for so long.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
KK
I copied what Darknight01 said,
^^Usually teams FIRE the GM after the 3rd season of that crap. To bad Al can’t just retire.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Darknight
Your logic has no facts, let me give you one GM that lasted 20 years never won a playoff game, and had a worst draft record than Davis, any guess.
Carl Petersen KC Chiefs.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Do you think Al is going to hire Cable, but just wants to stir the pot a little with the Gilbride interview? Al is conniving enough to pull something like that off.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Who knows? Maybe Cable will be the highest-paid OC in the league, a la Jason Garrett, working for Gilbride?
Naaaaa
January 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
LA Raider - We have already have a Head Coach. Al hasn’t announced it to the media yet but who cares?
January 14th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Fire Al! Raider fans are desperately in need of a qualified GM.
Please, Mr. Davis. Do it for the team. You are running it into the ground.
Then go on a nice long vacation and relax a little, because things will start looking up immediately.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
KK some of you would try to have us believe this little old man in a wheelchair is coaching the team too.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
yo vegas…
Lefty12 says Bigfoot will soon be available for purchase.. Keep your eyes open..
January 14th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Listening to the stuff that goes on in this blog is like being back in a kindergaten sand box again, let’s see that was 52 years ago. We have not made much progress since those days. Move on please!!!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
L.A.Raider,
Why do you ask so many questions, but don’t give any answers? You are a wind bag, probably from Tracy just like your buddy.
Have a take, give somthing, instea of just asking a bunch of silly questions like a clown.
It is folks like you who ruin this site!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
R.I.P. Ricardo Mantalban.
Enjoy Fantasy Island. Boss the Plane!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Bud Adams as GM has not won a championship since 1961 and nobody is complaining about him and how he has mismanaged the Oilers/Titans, you anti-Davis shills are lame fans. Go root for a team thats winning right now and save us all the b.s.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
what can we do? we are going through the worst time in raider history.but we are a hardcore fan base “THE RAIDER NATION” the real nation, before ESPN started naming every fanbase a nation ex.redsox. anyways,this wont last forever we’ll be back and when we do i’ll be the biggest jerk to all who laugh at us now;
January 14th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
kk Just go get a rubber stamp for your comment made at Kinko’s. That might free your mind,………. to come up with something NEW and maybe even interesting.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Bigfoot, that is what I put up your wifes azz last night!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Oh, and Mort sucks. But John Herrera is a documented liar (just like Lane Kiffin), so working with the raiders must be tough for mediots like ole morty boy or even our own JMac.
Wonder why so many people around the Raiders feel like they have to communicate false information? Any thoughts Al?
January 14th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
We could restore this blog to it’s former glory with one simple rule:
DON’T COMMENT ON COMMENTS!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
457 isnt me… I dont attack my brethren…
January 14th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
whatever fake Vegas…
dont you ever get tired of trolling.. Silly lil trolly troll…
January 14th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
DFW What do mean by that?
January 14th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
460 L.A. Raider, you got it man! What can we do but keep the faith. Things will turn, I think they are close, we have the telent, we just need the direction. Until then KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, then when it turns RELISH!!!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
408raider its all good bro i dont hate nor will i lower myself to blast you on a blog.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
408,
That’s good news, the beer thing that is. Keep me posted.
The troll thing is sapping my will to post on here.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
That is some funny sh!t, you think we are “bretherns”, you are a pa-thed-ick loser! Don’t call me you brethern, CALL ME DADDY! the 408 su(ks balls! wannbe L.A.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Leave then dummy, like this is an acctual posting site or somthing. This is a comment piece of a mediocor blog!
I will miss you though,… NOT!!! d!ldo
January 14th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I’m not playing this game. 472 is not me, pretty obvious I think.
Raider On!!! Even U you trolling loser
January 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I know one thing about this blog, if you don’t change your name from time to time the trolls will post as you as soon as they disagree with what you are saying.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
whoever talking crab is one sorry individual, this is a raider blog, talk raider
January 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
lol crab
January 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
What Mort doesn’t get is if its a denial he still needs to report it, what a dip shiit.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
If people here simply commented on Jerry’s posts and CURRENT Raider issues, it wouldn’t read like a 7th grade bathroom stall.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
anyways, i’ll repeat myself from the past couple days revamp the o-line because next year we face 3 of the last 4 teams left in it now plus nyg and dal who know how to rush the passer
January 14th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
anyway.. I think cable gets the job.. Or at least I hope he does…
January 14th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I will say this away from the football subject, put Metallica in the Rock and Roll HOF!
January 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
dont trip Vegas we can tell the difference..
January 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
After reading the above it looks like MR and KK do the most damage to any intelligent conversation about football.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
If not cable, then re-hire Lofton as HC.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
mort,jaws,hoge,that overrated d-lineman wiley are all raider haters, thats why i dont watch their shows anymore i’d rather get my info from here
January 14th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Dakota does not have any intelligent input either, only Davis bashing. Have any of those three ever played the real game in real life? I doubt it.
January 14th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
You ungrateful punks….get it through your thick skulls. Beanie Wells RB from THE Ohio State University is going to be MY first draft pick this year! Why don’t you ungrateful punks go to the Charger complaint board? Oh Yeah! The would ban you for being trolls because their boards don’t put up with them ragging on the orginization.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
No worries I ain’t trippin.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
I played center for Chico
January 14th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
playing football was the best expierence ever,my 1st ever raider game was with my pop warner team at the l.a. coliseum
January 14th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
tim brown was the man
January 14th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
488, you must be very smart! THIS IS NOT A BOARD, THIS IS A MAKE SHIFT PLACE TO LEAVE A COMMENT! If you want a real message board, thiere are many to use.
What a smart guy you are.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I think Davis will try to take them back to LA, lucky for you L.A Raider.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
they better not get more skill players without a line
January 14th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
4-12
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Oakglenn, you have anything else to add?
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Yeah, I actually have lots to add. But lst I want to point out that you posted this exact same thing probably 20 times. Clearly, you don’t remember you posted it even once. Alzheimers is a serious condition that may require hospitalization. On any account, GET MEDICAL HELP KOOLKELL.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
The Raiders finnaly have a good QB again, times are changing.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
OINK! OINK!
January 14th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
well i’m pretty content with the raiders in oakland, i haven’t been blacked out ever since they moved back
January 14th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Jerry Mac…
Nice of you to drag yourself out of bed at 7:30am, to let us know that the tool Mort did the right thing. And kissed Al’s pinky rink and licked Amy Trask’s boots. (Don’t need to know what he did to John H.)
Now, where is our FIX!
January 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Mort got caught in classic Al Davis misinformation, big deal.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
** ring** errrrrrrrr
January 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
We should just give our opinion on Jerry’s posts and not on other people’s opinions.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
of what i hear, that new stadium in l.a. or city of industry is really happening, i work near it
January 14th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
The league won’t stop Al from getting the Raiders out of that thuggish area of Oakland, watch and see.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
GHOST TO THE POST!
January 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
the raiders will not win again until al passes the team on to his son and a gm along with real head coach are hired.
i will not waste another cent on this team until this happens. giving up my season tickets.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
especially after goodell visited, yeah maybe. but the l.a. coliseum area isn’t great either and i think the more powerful citizens of l.a. are against the raiders coming here because they dont appeal to the snotty upper class people who have the most money.but l.a. is still raider city, if you drive around here you’re guaranteed you’ll see a raider sticker on a car
January 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
i’ll spend my 200+ plus dollars on the nfl ticket superfan and alot more on kush and beer
January 14th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
L.A. is a drugy
January 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
New post,… WE HAVE A HEAD COACH!!
January 14th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
L.A. sure is a Raiders city. But, they can’t do L.A. Coliseum Part II…
If they had a state-of-the-art facility in a cleaner and more family/tourist-friendly area of L.A., the Raiders would probably sellout every game in a stadium of 63,000…even when not winning.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
weed is not a drug
January 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Tom Cable is still listed on the Raiders web site as interim head coach but has no contract and so is Lofton.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
you can change the stadium but you cant change the fans wonder why there is so many fights in san diego for the raider games, dudes here are nuts
January 14th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
weed is a drug, you azz! Is that what you tell your kids?
January 14th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
last place i check for raider info is their website
January 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
L.A. Raider is a pot head….
January 14th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
i own a house, 2 cars, work 40-50 hrs a week and my kids dont need to know what i do on my spare time,
January 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
i fully function dudes, i could break down what the raiders need: whole front office change, o and d-line,another LB,WR,
January 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
L.A.RAIDER Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
i’ll spend my 200+ plus dollars on the nfl ticket superfan and alot more on kush and beer
^^There you go! Thats what I have been doing since a gave up my season tickets after the Super Bowl year. Sunday ticket, BBQ with friends, drink and gamble. Good times.
Then I will pick and choose which of the 2 Raider games to attend.
January 14th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Al Davis Sippy Cup Says:
January 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
L.A. Raider is a pot head
^^Like Kawakami and about half of the citizens of Californians huh?
January 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
YUP
January 14th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
did somebody say weed?
January 14th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
You Raider fans are as clueless as the team you cheer for. You losers deserve each other.
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January 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
R A I D E R S
Please wake up and remember if you can’t protect the quarterback (offensive line) or get to the other teams quarterback (defensive line), stop drafting defensive backs, running backs and quarter backs. If you can’t stop the run (defensive line) or run the ball (offensive line) you aint gonna win! BUILD FROM THE INSIDE OUT AND STOP LOOKING AT THESE GLAMOUR POSITIONS! DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS - Steelers, Titans, Ravens, Eagles and even the Cardinals defense are really good!
January 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
DA_Nation I am with you on the build inside out. To bad they tried to build a defense but they forget to start at the inside and what they have on the inside is over rated and they suck!
January 15th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
That was an awesome blog, and I’m not being sarcastic. Very interesting stuff.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Greg Mcmichael…
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